thats the way it worked in the old days
#protection
sick sentinel
drifting juniper
to give it a global cooldown to cast devestator
chrome falcon
meh i don't even really need deva tbh
vocal bison
that feels like something that unfortunately if it's a talent now it's definitely going to be something to talent when you have like a 100 things to choose from with half of them filler
chrome falcon
i could probably play without it having thought about it
sick sentinel
i feel like, well, okay, holy stuff and armor they can keep that and shield too
chrome falcon
we've had it for like 5 years now
drifting juniper
i mean just make it a passive like they did with BDk ossuary
sick sentinel
but i feel like, they get alot of the shield crap, and that's our one thing
drifting juniper
no one liked ossuary as a talent because it was bland and it was a must have
sick sentinel
re-doubt
toxic pewter
Anyone know if anyone working on a prot warrior wishlist for wowhead?
sick sentinel
its all about the class fantasy of guy with shield and sword that makes it work for me
thats my only wishlist
hazy edge
I have a feeling that AM is going to be on the class tree and I hope they do something kinda similar to bear where there are nodes in the prot tree that lets you tack on LS to AM and such.
chrome falcon
yeah that was kinda my assumption too after i saw that in the bear tree
sick sentinel
either healing on demand of some kind, or some kind of change to make ip more magic absorb%
drifting juniper
i rather we don't play with banner tho, most of the time i cba using it for my pug group cooldowns and its not fun compared to spear
i also think nf ability in some dungeons is also fun
like sanguine depths with lot of casters
toxic pewter
So do we want banner/unity to come back or what? Do people want to keep this play style for another potential 2 years
I have fun with it, but I also don’t want to see it come back myself
I will admit
hazy edge
I'd rather have the tier set than banner+glory
toxic pewter
I'd rather have the tier set than banner+glory
Outburst mechanic?
vocal bison
it would be cool to have a choice between banner/spear in the talent tree
hazy edge
Outburst mechanic?
ye
toxic pewter
Hmmm
dreamy ice
I personally would love to keep the Spear
drifting juniper
i wish they just get rid of condemn on all warrior specs
toxic pewter
I realized I don’t really want anything from shadowlands lmao
sick sentinel
no, execute isn't scary at all any more
dreamy ice
I realized I don’t really want anything from shadowlands lmao
Sometimes i wish Legion back 😄
vocal bison
does anyone know is all the work people put into getting soulshapes wasted or is that going to be some type of baseline thing you can talent into regardless of class?
drifting juniper
i as paladin want both ashen and divine toll on next expansion but for warriors, no not so much
toxic pewter
Sometimes i wish Legion back 😄
Yeah I would like to see more legion/bfa stuff personally. Even other stuff from the old old days
sick sentinel
why not a garrote effect like rogue on demand silence on mob
toxic pewter
No stances tho
sick sentinel
use weapon to cut they throat they cant speak (silence)
sweet summit
gag order
sick sentinel
so annoying miss pummel
lofty widget
yea thats called gag order
toxic pewter
Bring back VIGILANCE!! Who with me
sick sentinel
and then they just cast ppl to death
sweet summit
wth is vigilance
urban portal
i wish they just get rid of condemn on all warrior specs
Execute feels like a row 1 talent shoehorned into a cov ability
lofty widget
vengeance?
drifting juniper
i wish venthyr warrior never exitsted, they have decent soulbinds which you can never try
sick sentinel
wait wtf is a vigilance i have vague memories, is that old intervene?
toxic pewter
sick sentinel
i know its something
sweet summit
oh yeah nah
sick sentinel
yeahh yeahh that one too
toxic pewter
LOL I think it’s a fun ability
sweet summit
waste of a talent spot
toxic pewter
Kind of can watch someone
toxic pewter
Fair enough
drifting juniper
Did u guys play with Nf ability anywhere in expansion
dreamy ice
when i created the warrior, i started with venth cause it was the "go to" for castle, i didnt played it longer than 2 weeks, cause it was boring as hell and kinda unefficent
lucid pasture
why would you want vigilance
sick sentinel
the fuckin totem banner taunt place thing
toxic pewter
Can have both
sick sentinel
from this was from mists
drifting juniper
sounds decent not enough to bring it to dragon flight
toxic pewter
Oh wait. I WANT ORIGINAL VIGILANCE. I posted the wrong one. Hold on.
drifting juniper
and one thing shadowland really fucked was making some spells baseline and thinking they going back to wotlk
fucking whirlwhind in my spellbook
dreamy ice
did someone ever played with the dragon shout talent?
sick sentinel
well yeah, they add WW and then add literal zero support for it
lucid pasture
apb fried more than ever
sweet summit
dragon roar was good during prepatch
lucid pasture
dragon roar was good during prepatch
true real based redpilled
sweet summit
then they nuked it
lucid pasture
sweet summit
unfort
sick sentinel
there is too many do nothing buttons for prot
sweet summit
that's not true
ocean yoke
i was so hyped to use dragon roar before it was unceremonially kneecapped
lucid pasture
yea man imagine having heroic throw
lofty widget
there is too many do nothing buttons for prot
pmuch only whirlwind, and maybe hamstring
sweet summit
HR is so bad with current baseline block uptime tho
dawn canyon
wheres my hug son or pick me daughter
dreamy ice
yea it is
drifting juniper
yeah we talking dragon flight without reprisal
ocean yoke
HR is also beyond boring
dreamy ice
i even was thinking about the punish talent in the first row
sick sentinel
vigilance should be an automatically cast like time anomoly, same for arcane int and gift of wild and PW:fort, battleshout and if it detects its not up, it attempts to auto cast it instantly every like, what, 20 - 60 seconds until everyone has it?
sweet summit
yeah sure hr could be good, but we need more to make it good
dreamy ice
with the tier set, 200% on Shieldhit + cd refresh
sweet summit
it's a bit more complicated than just give x ty
toxic pewter
Is anyone working on a df warrior wishlist for wowhead
sick sentinel
paladin for isntance, you bring him in and hes got "you don't lose cast time" aura for whole party
ocean yoke
yolo add the Wall effect onto HR
toxic pewter
I will work on one
sweet summit
please don't
toxic pewter
Let me get my laptop
drifting juniper
shadowlands was fun for paladin, made some good changes to all specs, i am paladin main i like all the new spells aside from nightfae
night fae paladin= venthyr warrior
vocal bison
whoever is making the DF wishlist add 2H + Shield!
dreamy ice
i wish they would do something with spellreflect tho, that even if i blocked/reflected a spell, i still have that 20% reduced magic dmg received
toxic pewter
Yah bring back wotlk spell reflect
drifting juniper
and maybe in warrior side of talent add the option that nearest target also gets spell reflect, some passive ultility
vocal bison
bring back mass spell reflect except make it a pve talent this time
sick sentinel
@drifting juniper u can do broken stuff with NF paladin by putting it all on some melee guy, windfury and infusion type shit
dreamy ice
i just got the feeling in ++15 keys, casters are insane for prot
sweet summit
why
toxic pewter
That wat I want
sweet summit
what does that give
toxic pewter
Cuz
sweet summit
that we need
drifting juniper
<@205370055771291648> u can do broken stuff with NF paladin by putting it all on...
yes but as covenant never sees play and the damage from it is not shown in logs of the target only paladin
sweet summit
threat is not a mechanic
toxic pewter
I am vigilant
dreamy ice
and maybe in warrior side of talent add the option that nearest target also gets...
i think there is even a leggy for prot where it does that
sweet summit
you have intervene for that
drifting juniper
yes there is
sweet summit
and safeguard
toxic pewter
No guarantee safeguard coming back
sweet summit
sure
toxic pewter
But would be nice to get that back
sick sentinel
ohh i vaguely remember safegaurd too
dreamy ice
but imagine..building a leggy just for that, and if bad timed, you just got a useless item on 😄
lofty widget
higher chance of safeguard than vigilance tho
sweet summit
but vigilance will be terrible like that
toxic pewter
OK hear me out then
vocal bison
intervene as an external defensive will be a lot more useful once we get rid of reprisal
toxic pewter
That would be cool
sick sentinel
what about, a rogue can put tricks on someone like tank forever
drifting juniper
that means reducing rouge buttons which they wont do
sweet summit
ah, safeguard but without skill expression?
drifting juniper
cuz they already have like 3
toxic pewter
Vigilance lasts 30 min. It would be cool if they brought it back and actually gave it a good effect
toxic pewter
That’s all I’m saying
dreamy ice
i cant complain that much about intervene, all i wish it would do, giving some resistance or dmg reduce on the warrior, since in high keys, you literally tank double dmg without getting something from it,except from repri proc, but that aint gonna do something on that lvl
drifting juniper
but banner is so involved in pvp on warrior they might bring on warrior section of talent
they have many comps around it
dreamy ice
the banner is nice, but i still pref my spear
the kite potential is insane for me, like in HoA when the bears are knocking you out of the shoes if enraged
vocal bison
then on sanguine weeks swap over to banner XD
chrome falcon
you could just uh
not let the bears enrage
and run banner and actually do damage
sweet summit
dreamy ice
well i got like 20-40k dps in pulls with spear and stuff
drifting juniper
have you guys played paladin, i think a warrior needs a damage playstyle like paladin that it passivly increases damage by a lot without changing rotation
sweet summit
that's bfa prot
dreamy ice
i dont like the paladin playstyle tbh, i played it, but its not mine tho
sweet summit
and it's very 50/50 on if people like it or not
drifting juniper
you do your own rotiation and damage spikes
chrome falcon
warrior already does good damage if you play well
and we already
have damage spikes
from tier
drifting juniper
yeah but the whole point of dragon flight talent tree is people being able to swap around, ofc for dps players they will come with an obsolete way of play
chrome falcon
outburst for DF please
dreamy ice
if i switch now to necrolords i have to keep up all the work from the covenant, im not in the mood to do that 😄
toxic pewter
Wow monka just took a point from echo. Tied 1-1 exciting
dreamy ice
i guess fleshshield is a good thing too
toxic pewter
Dude go necro and get prepared for season 4 now
drifting juniper
fleshcraft lasts 1 second on tank
toxic pewter
Y
drifting juniper
i can't even get invited to top and pf anymore XD
toxic pewter
Who said that
drifting juniper
Aren't key rotations completly changing?
dawn canyon
no u
drifting juniper
we don't do normal keys anyomre
dawn canyon
there is no covenant shit in taza or bfa/wod/legion ones
drifting juniper
i mean dungeons
ocean yoke
What you guys smoking
depends are you a cop
drifting juniper
i am off to dinner, nice talking to you guys
sweet summit
enjoy
toxic pewter
Covenant still matters… just because dungeons are different doesn’t mean necro still not better than kyrian
dreamy ice
thats one thing i didnt get about the dungeon rotation, didnt read that, what is meant by that?
sweet summit
xd
dawn canyon
Covenant still matters… just because dungeons are different doesn’t mean necro s...
no more "note venth" bs
sweet summit
icant
toxic pewter
Oh yeah that’s true
dreamy ice
that the m+ dungeons are rotating on every week?
vocal bison
it's not every week right?
ocean yoke
its a different rotation for the season, not week by week
dreamy ice
havent read the article yet,thats why im asking
toxic pewter
Covenant still will matter for sure
lofty widget
it's just rotating from s3 to s4
once we're in s4 its gonna be the same 8 dungeons until DF launch
dawn canyon
havent read the article yet,thats why im asking
taza kara mechagon and 2 wod ones
dreamy ice
are going to be in m+?
sweet summit
yes...
toxic pewter
Better than doing shitty shadowlands dungeons for another season
dreamy ice
and kara..
dreamy ice
i would pref legion dungeons 😄
toxic pewter
Junkyard will be fun with the bots and dreadlord buffs
Actually I already ran it on ptr. It’s fun
dreamy ice
nah,never liked the mechagon thing
sweet summit
mechagon without obelisks 
toxic pewter
Ya a lot of people dislike mechagon
dreamy ice
but thats just my personal thingy
chrome falcon
i don't ever want legion dungeons in the rotation tbh
we've already done legion m+
drifting juniper
and don't think that warlord m+ is very balanced and fixed
many tunings needed
it wasn't intended for m+
toxic pewter
What do you guys think of Dragonflight season 1 splitting 4 df 4 old xpac dungeons
sweet summit
dogshit
drifting juniper
vocal bison
feels like we get less and less original content each expansion
toxic pewter
Do you think it will help keep season 2 fresher
sweet summit
no
narrow fog
That's kinda rude, no?
chrome falcon
yes?
toxic pewter
LOL
chrome falcon
that was rather the point
narrow fog
I mean, apart from his numbers debacle
dawn canyon
make 8 new blizz
narrow fog
Apb is chill dude
toxic pewter
make 8 new blizz
There is 8 dungeons
dawn canyon
but wrong all the time
chrome falcon
lmao
sweet summit
xd
toxic pewter
There will be 8 at launch
dawn canyon
toxic pewter
Find me one man who is never wrong and I will find you a man who is always right
narrow fog
That's the 250th time you posted that in the past 25 microseconds.
chrome falcon
also yeah there are gonna be 8 dungeons at launch
but 4 of them just don't get m+ for??? reasons???
narrow fog
also yeah there are gonna be 8 dungeons at launch
For DF?
chrome falcon
yeah
toxic pewter
I actually like the 4/4 split for season 1 and 2
narrow fog
Cool
toxic pewter
I think it will be good
chrome falcon
did you play mop CMs erga
narrow fog
trying to bring boomers back with old content...
Is that a bad thing?
sweet summit
no lol
chrome falcon
they kinda owned tbh
narrow fog
I don't think it is.
sweet summit
yes because it means not new content
chrome falcon
but might suck a second time
yeah i don't like the idea really
they need to tweak all the old dungeons
toxic pewter
Doesn't matter he is chill
Appreciate the kind words Petar. I was banned not too long ago and made a promise to myself and G-d to change my ways.
narrow fog
Appreciate the kind words Petar. I was banned not too long ago and made a promis...
Just stay away from numbers hehe
toxic pewter
Yes
chrome falcon
are monka about to beat echo btw
ocean yoke
the stormstout brewery boss saying hes gonna ook us in the dooker makes that an all time dungeon tbh
narrow fog
the stormstout brewery boss saying hes gonna ook us in the dooker makes that an ...
True and real
dawn canyon
Or phil won't be able
idk man telling people codex is good is pretty dumb
lofty widget
are monka about to beat echo btw
echo will just win from the losers bracket anyway...
lofty widget
telling people codex is dumb is pretty good 
narrow fog
idk man telling people codex is good is pretty dumb
Beauty is in eye of the beholder 🙂
chrome falcon
false and wrong
dawn canyon
then id rather be blind
toxic pewter
I foresee cata dungeons to be featured, as it has the link to DF via deathwing. Meanwhile cata dungeons will suit m+ well in my opinion as they were originally designed to be difficult anyway. They were a blast too
sweet summit
difficult =/= good
narrow fog
then id rather be blind <:gladge:963970137701109820>
Ok
chrome falcon
there are very few cata dungeons i would want to see
narrow fog
🙂
chrome falcon
some of those packs are just absolutely ridiculous
narrow fog
there are *very* few cata dungeons i would want to see
Grim Batol was cool
toxic pewter
I think difficulty and fun are linked
chrome falcon
grim batol sucked ASS
narrow fog
No
narrow fog
It didn't
lofty widget
shroud to the dragons, get 100 % count then rush between bosses
chrome falcon
grim batol was the dungeon that everyone just took deserter debuff
if they random HC'd into it
sweet summit
idk what grim batol is like but i trust mattacate here xd
chrome falcon
terrible terrible dungeon
@sweet summit you had 5+ mins of mandatory RP where you flew around on dragon and threw bombs at the trash packs
dawn canyon
terrible terrible dungeon
bayzed take
ocean yoke
It was horrible
dreamy ice
im not that sure about the old dungeons as m+, i only played them in time dungeons or when leveling and i was pretty fast annoyed by those old dungeons, now with some affix + increased dmg and health...ehhh
narrow fog
grim batol was the dungeon that everyone just took deserter debuff
I played during cata and this was false. Also played it on pservers and also false.
sweet summit
oh hell yeah love rp !!!!1!+1
toxic pewter
Another idea that would be cool is if they picked 4 dungeons that are linked with dragons somehow
What are 4 best dragon dungeons
chrome falcon
I also played cata and it's not remotely false
vocal bison
echo about to get upset? insane
narrow fog
I mean maybe you personally did not like it
I generally found it better than throne of the tides or some shit
Or the tol'vir dungeon
chrome falcon
look man if you enjoy 5+ mins of mandatory RP in your M+ that's fine
i prefer uh
hitting... mobs?
dreamy ice
i started WoW with Legion, so my Exp back then is not existent, just from lvling,but not the "real danger"
narrow fog
look man if you enjoy 5+ mins of mandatory RP in your M+ that's fine
I see your point.
But I enjoyed it.
sweet summit
see
dreamy ice
"oops sorry i guys i missed a bomb, reset key"
lol
narrow fog
Not everyone has to agree all the time.
sweet summit
this is why i don't want the community to vote on dungeons
toxic pewter
What you guys think: THE CULLING OF STRATHOLME mythic+(has bronze/infinite Dragonflight link)
narrow fog
"oops sorry i guys i missed a bomb, reset key"
This never happened in my experiences.
chrome falcon
yeah ofc it never happened
narrow fog
Missing a bomb was no biggie.
dreamy ice
stratholme? 
chrome falcon
strat was a super fun CM
narrow fog
in your random daily HC
Good point.
chrome falcon
would be a terrible m+
toxic pewter
stratholme? <:weird:718676218500874320>
Lol I’m trying to think of fun dragon linked dungeons
narrow fog
@sweet summit you just said you never played it
sweet summit
and?
narrow fog
?
toxic pewter
Which dungeon you talking about
narrow fog
Well, how do you know it sucked back in 2010-2011
sweet summit
i don't
toxic pewter
Yah I played it and I enjoyed it. I enjoyed all cata dungeons.
sweet summit
but it does not sound like a good dungeon right now
dawn canyon
What you guys think: THE CULLING OF STRATHOLME mythic+(has bronze/infinite Drago...
Absolute aids
narrow fog
Yah I played it and I enjoyed it. I enjoyed all cata dungeons.
Yeah it was fine for the time.
dawn canyon
Make 8 new fucking dungeons blizz
toxic pewter
Working on my list for 4 dungeons for df. Coming up soon.
sweet summit
"for the time"
dawn canyon
Like Halls style dungeons with better graveyard
chrome falcon
so phil to be fair
i don't hate their logic
of "people hate refarming the same trinket"
i like the idea of 8 new dungeons every season
chrome falcon
and 24 new dungeons per expansion is not a realistic expectation
but yes
i agree that 8 new dungeons to start
would be ideal
dawn canyon
But start with new ones
dawn canyon
And then add idk atal and uhh wcm over the worst 2
chrome falcon
i think 4 new 4 old would be best
good lord no
if they add a single bfa dungeon
i'm out
dawn canyon
Wcm is fun 😵💫
chrome falcon
i really don't want to see any dungeons that have already been m+'d
toxic pewter
Attention all: I have completed my 4 dungeons list for DF. I present it below:
toxic pewter
Stonecore
Grim Batol
Deadmines
Stormstout Brewery
dreamy ice
i only liked one dungeon in bfa
sweet summit
deadmines is way too long
dawn canyon
Brewery linear but funny
cobalt seal
deadmines is way too long
it's a apb list
toxic pewter
Yah most dungeons were linear
dawn canyon
Halls style dungeons please
cobalt seal
what did you expect other than 4 troll dungeons
narrow fog
Incoming hate for apb kek
toxic pewter
lol
dawn canyon
Yes
dreamy ice
lol
toxic pewter
Ok back to my list drawing board
narrow fog
It's his personal list so
dawn canyon
Write ur fuck haste essay
cobalt seal
just because it's personal
narrow fog
Bad list tho
According to phil, yes.
cobalt seal
doesn't make it not bad
cobalt seal
or unplayable
narrow fog
Ok but he still has a right to say he liked some dungeons.
dawn canyon
did this guy tell me according to me i disagree with the list?
chrome falcon
contrarians unite!
dawn canyon
like ≠ m+ viable
narrow fog
Man, you're always so negative about everything lol
sweet summit
lol
toxic pewter
Petar be careful
dawn canyon
Man, you're always so negative about everything lol
yes i enjoy being a hater
chrome falcon
nah just about apb mostly
narrow fog
Do not defend me otherwise they will come for u next
Not really.
I am not defending you
Don't get it twisted
Just saying everyone has diff opinions in the game.
toxic pewter
That is true
cobalt seal
that's why the got grimrail
dawn canyon
sweet summit
yes cro...
dawn canyon
i wanted flower dungie 
chrome falcon
^
sweet summit
flower dungie season 2....
chrome falcon
everbloom was the closest thing wod has to a m+ dungeon layout
chrome falcon
because it's terrible design for m+
chrome falcon
it's a corridor
cobalt seal
IN M+
dawn canyon
its LITTERALLY on RAILS
chrome falcon
with the worst boss in the entire dungeon set
narrow fog
because it's terrible design for m+
Then don't play it
sweet summit
what
chrome falcon
holy fuck
sweet summit
re u
chrome falcon
i'm gonna
sweet summit
smoking
sweet summit
xdddd
cobalt seal
imagine telling people that like m+
dawn canyon
i dont play one EVER???
cobalt seal
to not play m+
dawn canyon
so i cannot get KSH
toxic pewter
Everyone make list for 4 dungeons for df season 1
sweet summit
you're really pushing my buttons now (in a bad way)
dawn canyon
make stuff like halls
toxic pewter
8 new ones
I would enjoy that too but apparently it not gonna happen
cobalt seal
I mean, I can't see how they can make dungeons
by stopping making dungeon towards people that do it 1 time
dawn canyon
i will complain so they make 8 new ones
sweet summit
nah bro
dawn canyon
they had 10 for SL so make 8 for DF
narrow fog
you're really pushing my buttons now (in a bad way)
What?
sweet summit
you're clearly delusional
drifting juniper
maybe make mythic plus harder and rewards on lower level keys
its like venezuela currency atm
dawn canyon
just give me good dungeons
narrow fog
Aren't you a mod?
sweet summit
no lol
toxic pewter
Omg
chrome falcon
stormforged literally just have yellow names so they can feel better about themselves
true and real
toxic pewter
I thought of the best dungeon
lofty widget
toxic pewter
THE NEXUS
narrow fog
Everything I say and you disagree
toxic pewter
M+
sweet summit
i am really doing my best
narrow fog
You come saying I am delusional or braindead
sweet summit
but you're making it really difficult
dawn canyon
Everything I say and you disagree
maybe try have better takes?
urban portal
👉 🔘
chrome falcon
"If you don't like it when blizzard does dumb shit that makes the game worse then just don't play"
🙃
narrow fog
maybe try have better takes?
Maybe control your emotions?
chrome falcon
my personal opinion
drifting juniper
aye you should see people over at hammer of wrath
chrome falcon
is that your personal opinion is fucking stupid
narrow fog
I am not writing a paper on this.
drifting juniper
we are not chill there
chrome falcon
on just about every level
drifting juniper
this is pretty chill
narrow fog
on just about every level
Stop calling me names.
chrome falcon
negative
narrow fog
...
lofty widget
Stop calling me names.
he's not calling YOU names, he's saying your takes are stupid
chrome falcon
if you don't like it when i call you stupid then just don't be in the discord
lofty widget
which is fair and based
drifting juniper
i honestly hate the don't play it argument in any game
chrome falcon
are you addicted to this channel or something?
narrow fog
if you don't like it when i call you stupid then just don't be in the discord
If I reciprocate I will get a warning from the mods
So
Whatever.
dawn canyon
If you dont agree with the channel why dont you quit it
drifting juniper
as if games aren't made on suggestions and if people don't like something they leave and game has to change in order to get their money back
narrow fog
come at me
No.
drifting juniper
they literaly have to keep everyone happy , they themselves won't say don't play it
but players will for some reason
and idk after so many fuck ups idk why blizzard still has fanboys
that think they don't make mistakes
thats so 2006
cobalt seal
I wonder when people gonna learn (me included) to ignore apb troll takes
narrow fog
and idk after so many fuck ups idk why blizzard still has fanboys
I am not a fanboy of blizzard though.
cobalt seal
narrow fog
I also enjoy following the channel for prot warr info.
narrow fog
Leave the channel if you dont like it
I do like it though.
I just don't enjoy being called names
But it's whatever.
toxic pewter
This is best spec channel this side of the Mississippi
drifting juniper
you can't be picky when it comes to love, you love things for the bad and good parts altogheter
dawn canyon
Rolled and smoked 
drifting juniper
narrow fog
you can't be picky when it comes to love, you love things for the bad and good p...
True.
chrome falcon
not defending your shit takes when someone calls your takes shit is weakness
double own
toxic pewter
I stand by my list
dreamy ice
and i thought this channel is to receive informations about prot warrior, not to use the "verbal abuse" thingy, that here sounds more like its all taken personal
cobalt seal
I just don't enjoy being called names
saying your takes are stupid
and calling you stupid
narrow fog
not defending your shit takes when someone calls your takes shit is weakness
I stand by my takes but it is pointless to argue over personal stuff.
cobalt seal
are 2 dif things
chrome falcon
if anyone wants to ask about prot warrior stuff they're welcome to
dawn canyon
Hey guise where unity
chrome falcon
it's not like someone just posted a log to ask for help and we're still being assholes in the meantime
narrow fog
are 2 dif things
Fair enough.
sweet summit
and i thought this channel is to receive informations about prot warrior, not to...
that's mainly what we do here but sometimes someone takes it a bit far
toxic pewter
I didn’t play legion much- was prot warr artifact ability any good? I think it was dragon breath or something
drifting juniper
ok on another take tho
when they designed some dungeons
they didnt take m+ in mind
they had no idea it existed in future
i think they should come up with new dungeons
grave crane
they do now, but not previous dungeons
cobalt seal
they just fuck some of those design
grave crane
also you guys are on something else today lol
jagged pier
CMs were a type of m+ tho
chrome falcon
eh
drifting juniper
i am talking about prev dungeons, most of them are not good to be used again, idk how far back they go but many dungeons were just aggro challenge and mana management rather than actual mechanics
cobalt seal
i am talking about prev dungeons, most of them are not good to be used again, id...
Cata dungeons say Hi
jagged pier
CMs didn't have to be scalable
No but it was the first itration of the system
And u can adapt CMs to fit m+
They already have time associted with it
And enough mechanics
To make them challenging
drifting juniper
imagine doing cata or before cata in new days, everything is so fucking slow and not fun, blizzard should stick to getting new content and having old content reserved for classic
i don't mind doing legion classic in my 50s
dreamy ice
anyway, im going to make me some food, stay calm and dont hit each other! 😄 take care.
toxic pewter
C ya
narrow fog
anyway, im going to make me some food, stay calm and dont hit each other! 😄 tak...
Enjoy
dreamy ice
Merci
drifting juniper
but i do mind doing legion m+ in new expansion specially when we wait so much for new content
its my own opinion tho, when i get tired so fast in this game at least major new content should be in fact "new"
grave crane
but this isnt a major content patch, its a bridge to the next one. either we get this or the current season goes on for as long as 9.0
dawn canyon
Imagine spending 50 € to play sl dungeons with new Talent trees
chrome falcon
well we're talking about DF brol
dawn canyon
but this isnt a major content patch, its a bridge to the next one. either we get...
We are talking about df
chrome falcon
where they're doing the same thing
grave crane
oh did they announce what dungeons theyre dropping for in DF?
toxic pewter
Who else makin df season 1 4 dungeon list
chrome falcon
no
dawn canyon
oh did they announce what dungeons theyre dropping for in DF?
4 old 4 new
And im saying i want 8 new
toxic pewter
We speculating
drifting juniper
i think everyone wants 8 new honestly
narrow fog
And im saying i want 8 new
Would be best
grave crane
ah that is understandable to want 8 new i agree
narrow fog
But 8 new each season?
dawn canyon
No
grave crane
nah 8 new per expansion
dawn canyon
8 new on release
grave crane
well mega dungeon counts as 2 no?
drifting juniper
much like legion, bring out kara and catherdral seperatly
cobalt seal
We speculating
if you call that speculating
narrow fog
around 10 or 11
Yes, I was thinking around 12-13 as well
cobalt seal
toxic pewter
if you call that speculating
What dungeons you want to see
chrome falcon
sidenote when did blizz decide they didn't have to release new dungeons mid-expansion anymore
fuck that
toxic pewter
Talk shit about my list then don’t even make list yourself smh
drifting juniper
yes fuck that
pallid finch
is the leggo Seismic the top offensive option?
sweet summit
ye
chrome falcon
if you play well yes
cobalt seal
What dungeons you want to see
the ones you didn't list or gonna list
drifting juniper
new dungeons mid expansion are best
chrome falcon
it's harder than rep though
toxic pewter
That is legitimate trolling
drifting juniper
and tbh blizzard shuold do new stuff to keep patch entertaining
say what you will about bfa but it had content
neck, curroption
bad or good it was new
cobalt seal
so is this list with nexus added
narrow fog
and tbh blizzard shuold do new stuff to keep patch entertaining
Only dungeon content or in general?
toxic pewter
yeah but they gave their reasons as to why they are splitting the new 8 df dungeons
grave crane
i mean its not even in real alpha yet right, so make a post on the forums and im sure a ton of people will back it and gain traction. bitching in skyhold isnt gonna do anything but make them nerf us
drifting juniper
island expedition, visions, more raids and dungeons
they really bottled it when it came to content in shadowlands
toxic pewter
lets see ur list @cobalt seal
strong forum
Pretty sure his list is nsfw
sweet summit
shadowlands has/had torghast
drifting juniper
and honestly people get bored and only small porition of us players will play no matter what they do
sweet summit
but it's not mandatory to do
drifting juniper
the majority will leave and they did
sweet summit
so they gave up since no one did it
narrow fog
island expedition, visions, more raids and dungeons
I heard someone said on youtube that they are making more open world type content for DF, instead of instanced.
cobalt seal
island expedition, visions, more raids and dungeons
those were really good
people really loved BFA content
narrow fog
I think Accolonn, but no idea tbh, watched it a while back.
drifting juniper
meta existed
but everything you played you had fun
now you either are some exact thing or notinvited
also while you at it
bring drums back to 30%
because mages and hunters don't need bl to get invited
toxic pewter
you guys think combat rez will remain engi only
drifting juniper
gives us a totem like engi cr
that has radius
rather than corpse clicking
15 yard for example so you still have to walk
sweet summit
uhh
toxic pewter
ya but a lot of people tired of having to go engi for the combat rez
dawn canyon
Just go cr class then
strong forum
Uhm no
sweet summit
there has to be drawback
toxic pewter
especially with the new prof changes
strong forum
I love having CR as non CR class
sweet summit
to not taking the "real thing"
dawn canyon
If df doesnt have a wormhole ill be very sad
toxic pewter
I love having CR as non CR class
right- but many feel shoehorned into having to go engineering and not do other professions they may want to play
drifting juniper
but the real thing is very subjective isn't it
dawn canyon
Real thing is CR class
strong forum
Other professions don't exist
sweet summit
engi alch chads
dawn canyon
Engi is bis and that's okay
strong forum
If you want to profession game you can just create it on another class/char..
drifting juniper
Yes but cr is not something you get invited over, if you are meta cr is icing on the cake if not cr won't save you
dawn canyon
Who gives a fuck about rest
toxic pewter
the days of engi alch will end
drifting juniper
for example on high keys in pf you need disease dispel
toxic pewter
i have foreseen it
strong forum
It's not like you need alch on your main
urban portal
If they do profession it’s gonna be on an alt
strong forum
Or BS
dawn canyon
i have foreseen it
You also forsaw alpha releasing at the wrong date and spec name changes
drifting juniper
and there is no cure for it in professions so you take paladin or monk even if they are not meta
pallid finch
isnt there a poison pot?
toxic pewter
strong forum
Also throwback to BFA when half of the players were JC cuz of the rings
drifting juniper
but i'm saying is i think bringing back 30% lust will open up more comps
sweet summit
poison pot does not work in instances iirc
urban portal
Certainly makes shit tier 15 alt runs more bearable
drifting juniper
@lament musk team was non meta and they pushed very high but they always suffered from this bl thing
strong forum
You're overestimating people giving a shit about crafting instead of just using the profs who give actual player power
toxic pewter
i think engi battle rez should be available to everyone but make it shittier sort of like what they did with drums
strong forum
I myself wouldn't even have any profs if not for CR/Prof only gear
mighty valley
there's a kind of player who just likes crafting systems if they're actually good, they barely exist in wow so people just look at profs for player power
strong forum
Didn't have any profs until legion. And I'm playing since tbc
toxic pewter
right - so why not go all in and just do away with any profession requirements altogether then
mighty valley
i don't even think ffxiv crafting is fun but a lot of people love grinding that shit
drifting juniper
back in legion i think in court of stars alchemy and engineering could be replacement to classes
my point is let drum be the same thing so people can take diffrent classes
mighty valley
i mean, same, but remember how once upon a time farmville was the biggest game in the world?
toxic pewter
what professions you guys gonna be in df
cobalt seal
Halls of Lightning
Lost City of the Tol'vir
Scarlet Monastery (MoP dungeons kinda suck for m+)
Everbloom
@toxic pewter Just to keep it 1 from each expansion
urban portal
Which ever one has portals
strong forum
Engi cuz free glider
sweet summit
what professions you guys gonna be in df
if nothing changes engi alch
if shit changes in a meaning ful way, the ones that give the highest dps increase/QoL
strong forum
toxic pewter
if nothing changes engi alch
if shit changes in a meaning ful way, the ones that...
Lol
not bad answer
strong forum
Same as erga tbh
toxic pewter
yeah i guess same even for me LOL
drifting juniper
will we get portals to all those useless dungeons we doing next season?
strong forum
Also bring back pylons
drifting juniper
on +20
strong forum
will we get portals to all those useless dungeons we doing next season?
Yes
And the raids too
drifting juniper
can't wait to go to grimrail depot every 8 hours
in df
on my main since they are not account bound
toxic pewter
wat
drifting juniper
end time with 2 random bosses and last boss for mythic +
sweet summit
cobalt seal
Fight me what you want. Dungeons should be chosen towards people that gonna do it the most
not the weekly no leaver 15 players
they don't care if it's Grimrail or Gambit
or if it's a hold W or open area
drifting juniper
guys i have some irrelevant question ( i know i do most of the time)
urban portal
Yeah that’s a me problem for sure
drifting juniper
is account sharing ban a common ban
sweet summit
urban portal
The burden of proof is high on them
sweet summit
it was common around the time mage tower returned
dawn canyon
Fwiw a lot of people got banned for mage tower piloting
sweet summit
but not as much anymore
urban portal
But it’s an easy ban if they manage to prove it
dawn canyon
I dont risk it
drifting juniper
i mean do people usuallly log into friends account for harmless stuff
like me playing his character to do a +15
strong forum
is account sharing ban a common ban
Only if you actually share
drifting juniper
while he is 3.7k
strong forum
Yes that's a very common ban if it gets found
toxic pewter
I personally wouldn't risk it
drifting juniper
no boost or anything
dawn canyon
They wouldnt tell you
sweet summit
very dumb idea
cobalt seal
really really dumb idea
drifting juniper
well i've been doing it for a month and he just gave me his account and stopped playing, he knew the risks
drifting juniper
but i wanted to see if anyone had experience with being banned or sharing wihtout it
dawn canyon
I do not play on getting banned
sweet summit
i have a few friends that have gotten banned for account sharing
drifting juniper
around mage tower or buying boost or in general
sweet summit
all of the above
ocean yoke
there was a big ban wave when mage tower came back for it
strong forum
I used to acc share with a friend of mine back in tbc every now and again
But it was tbc so the security wasn't as developed
drifting juniper
i always figured its over serious stuff
drifting juniper
like gladiator pilot or some shit that gives red flags
sick sentinel
those things would be good still today if you got locked out of phone say
cobalt seal
like gladiator pilot or some shit that gives red flags
they take account sharing really serious
no matter what
if they find out
you get banned
strong forum
I never got the physical authenticator, found it giga cringe
sick sentinel
the only giga cringe part was if u lost it under the couch
drifting juniper
BUt how they do find out tho
strong forum
And I also went by the "there's nothing of value on my account, literally useless to hack it"
drifting juniper
it has to be more than ip because vpn is legal
cobalt seal
it has to be more than ip because vpn is legal
They should have their ideas
strong forum
At this point I have a few tmogs and titles with minor value, a couple CEs. So maybe it's now like 50 bucks
dawn canyon
strong forum
Already have, don't care 
dawn canyon
fickle ingot
I heard there was content to be found
I was trying to use pepe binoculars
But remembered this place is a fucking gulag
:exasperated
mighty valley
just a vigorous discussion in the marketplace of ideas
sick sentinel
i do know that bop is BIS for that
blazing condor
never needed a bop in my life for those dogs
its a strat you can use
but no need
sick sentinel
bop cancel aura into challenging shout
sick sentinel
more like if i stayed in till 12 stacks, (could happen its me)
blazing condor
then yeah a bop would save you
mighty valley
how long is the pull going for you to get 12 stacks
chilly brook
Actually it's 100 bucks cuz 80 of that is DF epic Edition!
Apparently my R6 account is worth $700 or more or something stupid
sick sentinel
if he dies, he dies
you guys said something along the lines of the hound master human npc if i interupt him, he wont attempt that spell for like another 30 seconds correct?
strong forum
if you stun his loyal beasts cast
he will never use it again
he casts loyal beasts at 50% hp
cobalt seal
kinda wrong
he recasts it if you ignore him
and he stays alive a stupid amount of time
marsh aurora
is scale + overwhelming power crystal a decent combo for m+ ? or should i hunt for an other offensive trinket to replace opc ?
also have ticking sack of terror available, but it's 110 strenght lost so it seems weird
considering banner is % strength
sick sentinel
well, that was going... OKAY, not optimal at all, some bullshit like extra pulls, get to final boss shaman ninja pulled at least 1 died, then someone didnt do the soak,
chrome falcon
double on use bad
sick sentinel
sanguine on the boss
lofty widget
is scale + overwhelming power crystal a decent combo for m+ ? or should i hunt f...
opc is good, but i wouldnt use 2 on use
i personally use aegis + phial
hazy edge
I like having a stat stick like soleahs/afe/elegy personally
marsh aurora
i personally use aegis + phial
the SOD one ? :worry:
lofty widget
aegis is just a better scale
hazy edge
best defensive trinket in the game
lofty widget
dw if yo udont have it this season
marsh aurora
i have it on my druid, and the few clears i did on war didn't yield me one iirc
grave crane
Unless they change it Ageis gonna be bis next tier for sure
Wild how aegis was so good and then Sepulcher trinkets were actually dog water
cinder storm
Someday TD will be back in the form of a trinket
mortal brook
ocean yoke
bis right there
sick sentinel
main major way i screwed up the halls 17 was we got to the stairs after boss 1, and i went to pull the wo pack, but i didn't go back, (or we aggro'd it) the group on stairs to left,, so that got pulled and we had to burn all the CD's, wo got killed early in the pull after we survived that, and someone pulled a gargoyle to the boss 2, it died, and then sanguinated the boss
i tried to make big pulls few bad sanguine packs, in terms of, 1 guy heals in the goop
cobalt seal
main major way i screwed up the halls 17 was we got to the stairs after boss 1, ...
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sick sentinel
🛡️ ⬆️ cro
chrome falcon
yogi loves sharing completely incomprehensible details of every key he does
cobalt seal
i literally understood