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sweet summit
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that is bad

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and dumb

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and tuned poorly

vernal vale
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WoD dungeons don't either.

onyx vessel
feral jewel
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Geez. War and Pala just get shafted with the cool loot

vernal vale
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Maybe the axe from Mechagon that does fire damage but I think stats are just gonna be better on weapon.

sweet summit
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stats are better on aoe

torpid fiber
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im just really worried that the other tanks are going to pull even farther ahead from prot next season with their better tier sets and now their extremely strong unique weapons like jotun, jaithys, gavel, etc. runing out of copium over here

sweet summit
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the proc was better on st

vernal vale
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So good for actually raiding maybe

sweet summit
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nah you're just overreacting

lofty widget
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we're already ahead of most the other tanks hmmNod

sweet summit
vernal vale
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We slap super hard

strong forum
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The only tank ahead of pwar currently is bdk

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So idk how others can "pull even further ahead"

lofty widget
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we're just underrepresented

strong forum
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As shit stands right now, nothing will change

vernal vale
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Stupid streamers and YouTubers say stupid stuff to create bad perception too

feral jewel
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What about a veinripper and keeping up hamstring????

strong forum
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TC

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Is a slow

sweet summit
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higher ilvl weapon is better

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than veinripper

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iirc

strong forum
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And yeah, veinripper doesn't beat mainstat

hazy edge
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Where’s the Andy prot war clip?

strong forum
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@oblique garnet got a mythic veinripper in s2 and iirc it wasn't that exciting even in m+

sweet summit
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did andy say pwar bad again?

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ohnyo

strong forum
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No

oblique garnet
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It was good on bosses

strong forum
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The opposite

sweet summit
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oh shid

hazy edge
sweet summit
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a miracle

vernal vale
strong forum
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Well Andy has been saying that for a while

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But now we have it on tape

sweet summit
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andy based?!?!?!?!?

vernal vale
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Give us haste

strong forum
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Andy's been always based, his pwar is still #7 World io in s1

sweet summit
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u play paladin

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go away gg

strong forum
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But hey pwar dogshit or smth

blazing condor
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toxic

strong forum
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Factual

sweet summit
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not true

strong forum
sweet summit
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wrath is not out yet

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idiot

blazing condor
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he plays ps

hazy edge
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Andy is every tanks savior

sweet summit
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i did not

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idiot

toxic pewter
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Ya I was watching a streamer last night and she was talking shit about protwarr

strong forum
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Everybody but lepan and Andy does

toxic pewter
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SMH

chrome falcon
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no we need everyone to think prot sucks

toxic pewter
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Yes I’ve noticed that trend a lot

chrome falcon
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so we get more execute buffs

toxic pewter
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Lol true

vernal vale
oblique garnet
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Vanguard buffs inc

sweet summit
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it does

strong forum
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There's 3 routes

sweet summit
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bro imagine we get vanguard buffed for season 4 again

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:ikhant:

strong forum
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1 - buff - we would be op
2 - nerf - we would get insane hate
3 - nothing - flew under the radar

blazing condor
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4 - deleted in favor of VDH2

strong forum
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We don't even have vdh1

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How can we get vdh2

blazing condor
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if prot warr so good then why isn't there a pwarr2

sweet summit
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don't need it

strong forum
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Tru

sweet summit
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that's why

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who

hazy edge
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inb4 s4 patch notes: vanguared buffed by 5%, SR dr buffed to 30%, Indom healing buffed to 2%, IP buffed to 60%

strong forum
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Ohno

toxic pewter
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What do you guys mean vdh2, prot warr2, etc

sweet summit
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bro

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drooling irl for that

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i would actually maybe possibly play the game if that shit went live

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brain was ruined before tbc...

strong forum
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Tbf most of the bad dungeons are gone in s4

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So yeah

hazy edge
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if that went live pwar would legit be unkillable

toxic pewter
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Is grimrail actually going to be bad. I see a lot of hate for it

oblique garnet
sweet summit
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scared to learn new dungeons in kara and wod ones critcake

dawn canyon
strong forum
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?

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SL dungeons suck

toxic pewter
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I’m actually excited for mechagon dungeons again. I really enjoyed them

hazy edge
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iirc grimrail has some spicy reflects

vernal vale
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WoD dungeons both suck worst picks

chrome falcon
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upper kara has the best reflect in the game

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you just have to precast it

hazy edge
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or docks does

toxic pewter
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Is grimrail spacing the main issue or wathat

sweet summit
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idk if i'm just doomposting but mechagon was not that great by itself

strong forum
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Upper kara reflect is nerfed

hazy edge
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I dont remember whcich

oblique garnet
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Mechagon dungeons were bad

chrome falcon
vernal vale
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I don't remember Kara at all somehow

strong forum
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Cuz we can't reflect the entire channel anymore

chrome falcon
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yeah mechagon kinda sucks

oblique garnet
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Junkyard was hard carried by zap bot

sweet summit
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^

oblique garnet
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Workshop was boring

sweet summit
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workshop without obelisks

toxic pewter
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Ya the bots plus new dreadlord buffs will be fun though

hazy edge
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mecha w/o the affix is gunna suck ass

strong forum
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Workshop without awakened... Gg

hazy bronze
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Workshop with no free portal skip

oblique garnet
hazy edge
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both w/o awakened

sweet summit
vernal vale
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Mechagon sounds painful

hazy edge
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awakened hard carried mecha

sweet summit
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yeah

oblique garnet
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People forget it

toxic pewter
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Yeah damn now that you mention it, awakened really did help a lot

hazy edge
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same with grimrail

sweet summit
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awakened carried a lot of the bfa dungeons

hazy edge
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A lot of the cheese shit that made it fun in WoD is no longer in the game

vernal vale
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Grimrail is a tunnel that has stupid bad pulls because of doors and camera

sweet summit
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making the community vote critcake

hazy edge
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but people just remember the cheese shit and how fun it was, but don't remember that the cheese is gone

vernal vale
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Community full of trolls

blazing condor
dawn canyon
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everbloom huge dam

vernal vale
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Ever bloom with skips would have been amazing

balmy canyon
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Dungeon Mc dungeonface

chrome falcon
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it should have been everbloom and skyreach

vernal vale
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^

chrome falcon
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or maybe everbloom and BSM

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but definitely everbloom

sweet summit
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isn't skyreach the one with the winds

hazy edge
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everbloom and smbg where my picks

chrome falcon
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yeah it's hard as fuck

sweet summit
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cringe dungeon

vernal vale
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Yeah but you could gimik the winds

sweet summit
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did it like twice during tw

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hated it

hazy edge
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but legit anything but grimrail would have been better

toxic pewter
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Auchendoun would of been cool if they removed the RP somehow

oblique garnet
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Might aswell chosen oculus as one dungeob

hazy edge
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docks is meh but better than grimrail

dawn canyon
lucid pasture
dawn canyon
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HORRIBLE TAKE

sweet summit
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docks seems fine

vernal vale
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Docks is okay just not good

dawn canyon
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auchindune is an absolute garbo dungeon

toxic pewter
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Bloodmaul slag mines anyone?

dawn canyon
toxic pewter
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Lol

strong forum
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Y'all keep forgetting

oblique garnet
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F a c t u a l

strong forum
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That now that we have grimrail and irondorcks in s4, we won't have to deal with it in Df

lucid pasture
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what i keep forgetting is your hair

sweet summit
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is that real lore

lucid pasture
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that shit kinda banging

vernal vale
strong forum
lucid pasture
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pandaria p.2

hazy bronze
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Fight the evil Ahs!

strong forum
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Blizz said that even legion, bfa and SL dungeons are to recent to be included in DF dungeon set

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So obv the s4 dungeons fall under that aswell

lucid pasture
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??????????????????????

strong forum
toxic pewter
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Ya panda dungeons prob

lucid pasture
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another fried blizz take

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i like it

sweet summit
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okaaaaay

dawn canyon
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if they add dos to df i will mald

toxic pewter
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And cata I can see

sweet summit
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winnable???

strong forum
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Yes

lucid pasture
strong forum
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We will only see wod or earlier dungeons

toxic pewter
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I have a feeling they will do dragon themed / anything sort of linked with dragons, dungeons from past expansions

lucid pasture
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yea man true

sweet summit
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can't see that being good though

hazy bronze
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Grim batol kek

strong forum
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If its good or not remains to be seen

sweet summit
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they're not designed with m+ in mind

oblique garnet
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Sinestra danderson

strong forum
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But that's the facts

sweet summit
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but also the ones designed with m+ in mind suck regardless

lucid pasture
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all the dungeons in the expac will only have dragon themes

sweet summit
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so maybe it's not a big deal

lucid pasture
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true real based redpilled

vernal vale
strong forum
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I wanna see like a polished maraudon, grim batol

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They'd be bangers

dawn canyon
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please no end time

strong forum
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Grim batol would fit extremely well as an m+ dungeon

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End time can go suck a fat one

lucid pasture
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nomeratur

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fried

sweet summit
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black morass

lucid pasture
strong forum
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I could see the nexus, utgarde aswell

vernal vale
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There are some really bad dungeons with dragons in them.

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Nexus fine keep the other one over there out of it

toxic pewter
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Can possibly even see culling of stratholme from wotlk (has infinite Dragonflight influence)

hazy edge
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blizz is gunna do something stupid and make some shit like Halls of Reflection one of the keys

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and it's gunna suck ass

sick sentinel
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Let's name every pre 2017 dungeon aaaand go

lucid pasture
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didnt they say no dungeons from earlier than cata

vernal vale
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Too many people couldn't ride the dragons in wrath

lucid pasture
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😐

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or mop or something

toxic pewter
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Oh did they

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Dunno

lucid pasture
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cause they were too fried

strong forum
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That im not certain about

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Could be

lucid pasture
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i remember something along those lines tho

cobalt seal
lucid pasture
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since they were just poopy

cobalt seal
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they said dungeons are older than legion

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that was all

toxic pewter
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Cata makes sense to be honest as they were difficult at launch.. they feel like they would be well suited for m+ imo

lucid pasture
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what

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true real statement

chrome falcon
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yes

lucid pasture
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dungeons are older than legion

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true real

sick sentinel
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Maybe some fresh content.... 😂

vernal vale
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Half the dungeons are tunnels so routes are easy. Press W

dawn canyon
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just make new ones man

lucid pasture
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tbh

toxic pewter
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stonecore would own

lucid pasture
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they should just do half hoa half grim batol

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good dungeon

cobalt seal
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true real

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statement

lucid pasture
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you kill first boss in hoa

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boom you tp to grim batol

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oh shit true

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man

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freehold

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any freehold enjoyers

cobalt seal
toxic pewter
cobalt seal
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valuable tp

sweet summit
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so true cro

lucid pasture
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true

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nah but fr

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freehold man

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nr 1

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kr too

cobalt seal
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actually tp to apb server

sweet summit
lucid pasture
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it was an enjoyable dungeon

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idk why youre crying

sweet summit
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2nd boss too unless eudora was friendly

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🙂

lucid pasture
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same with ad and kr

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good enjoyable dungeons too

sweet summit
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freehold was good, yes

lucid pasture
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im gonna need a seeing eye dog guide in s4

sweet summit
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kr was not enjoyable tho

mortal brook
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Bfa m+ timewalking next xpack better let me get a Fang

lucid pasture
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mans never been to legion mega dungs innit

vernal vale
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I was trying to remember Kara routes the other day as I was in there to do the quest for teleport item.

lucid pasture
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bfa timewalking better drop me a td 18 weapon

vernal vale
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Cannot remember Kara at all

lucid pasture
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:noted:

toxic pewter
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Is tol dagor mostly considered negative or what? I actually enjoyed TD

lucid pasture
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🤝

sweet summit
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it was buggy as hell

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so bad

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only good part about TD was the beach

toxic pewter
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Yah pulling from different floors and stuff

lucid pasture
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oh im not talking tol dagor

toxic pewter
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Ya beach was fun lol

sweet summit
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doesn't make the dungeon good

lucid pasture
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im talking twilight devo

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i fucking hated tol dagor

toxic pewter
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Right I’ve heard this before a lot

lucid pasture
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most cancer fucking shit ever

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i hated it

toxic pewter
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But I don’t feel that way

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I dunno why

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I thought it was cool dungeon

vernal vale
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I didn't like most of the BFA dungeons. It's why I didn't m+

lucid pasture
sweet summit
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love having your camera fucked

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haha

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yeah love that so much

lucid pasture
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i mean

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sd

toxic pewter
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Bfa better than sl in my opinion

lucid pasture
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vs td

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sd >>> td

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even though both are cunts

vernal vale
lucid pasture
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tol dagor man

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imagine doing boss

sweet summit
toxic pewter
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Worst sl dungeon is dos in my opinion

lucid pasture
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and then your tanks twilight devo procs

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and nyoom you just see half the dungeons hp bars through the wall coming at you

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fun™️

sweet summit
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ok

hazy edge
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Honestly, if they didn’t remove the 120 fov I wouldn’t mind tight corridor dungeons as much

lucid pasture
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@sweet summit i will hack into your blizzard and play for you

sweet summit
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ok

lucid pasture
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🤝

sweet summit
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fov 120 was so nice...

lucid pasture
hazy edge
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I’m still upset they changed it

dawn canyon
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such a shit change

toxic pewter
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Yes same

lucid pasture
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imagine caring

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lol

toxic pewter
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It’s awful change

hazy edge
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Wym I’m fully zoomed out smh my head

toxic pewter
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It’s a big deal. Zoomed out camera feels mega good

lucid pasture
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it was unintended and now you guys are crying that its gone

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mhm ok good job

cobalt seal
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👋

toxic pewter
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Is sodagod a fury warrior

dawn canyon
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no she plays arms

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usually

cobalt seal
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even worst

toxic pewter
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I’m an arms man myself

sweet summit
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good for you gg

lucid pasture
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i actually play monk rn

sick sentinel
lucid pasture
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i play all specs warrior

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gamer moment

sick sentinel
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but, i'mma argue that undercuck was equally as bad

lucid pasture
sick sentinel
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thats what we named it

lucid pasture
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underrot was cool

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idk

toxic pewter
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Imagine playing anything but prot in the year of our lord 2022

lucid pasture
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enjoyable idk

dawn canyon
lucid pasture
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motherlode was kinda monkaW imo

sick sentinel
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someone in my guild came up with undercuck and it stuck like super duper glue

toxic pewter
lucid pasture
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i enjyoed playing with some top 100 world io guy once

dawn canyon
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god damn

lucid pasture
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he just went in

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pulled everything

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and twilight devo handled it

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king shit fr

toxic pewter
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Underrot was an A tier dungeon

sick sentinel
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YOU STOLE MY CLOUD SONG, I SWEAR TO GOD IF I EVER FIND OUT WHERE YOU LIVE I'LL KILL YOU!!!! some nut on another game dark age of camelot

lucid pasture
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relax

sweet summit
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?

sick sentinel
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go farm some silver (thats a line in the rage video)

toxic pewter
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Wat

dawn canyon
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yogi do you take crack

lucid pasture
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yes

toxic pewter
lucid pasture
sick sentinel
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don't think i do

dawn canyon
lucid pasture
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anyways

sick sentinel
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sorry

lucid pasture
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only annoying part about underrot was the 3rd boss?

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the shroom guy

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it was fried with pugs

chilly brook
sick sentinel
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no, i don't like that place in general, same type of vibe as plague fall

lucid pasture
toxic pewter
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Honestly every boss in underrot could mess up a bad group

lucid pasture
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true

chilly brook
lucid pasture
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kinda zzz

sick sentinel
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the caps lock is a guy on another video game screaming about someone stealing his item

lucid pasture
chilly brook
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you literally couldn't die

lucid pasture
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since people monkeyed it

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for no reason

sick sentinel
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and he loses his shit

lucid pasture
chilly brook
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heroic throw the orbs

dawn canyon
chilly brook
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get free VRs

sick sentinel
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well, you ask me if i do crack

lucid pasture
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bro what the fuck

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i swear yogi is so fried

chilly brook
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yogi is always fried

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nothing new

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says the prot paladin

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smh

sick sentinel
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i just don't get why you'd ask that

lucid pasture
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i mean

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no it doesnt do that to the brain when your highest key is like a +17

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that wasnt funny gg

chilly brook
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purple better than both brown and pink

dawn canyon
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purple shit tank

sick sentinel
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i just think calling someone crackhead is pretty serious accusation thats all

chilly brook
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objectively true take

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don't need to have a good tank when shit is dead because purple class does 40k overall

lucid pasture
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TRUE

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REAL

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BASED

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REDPILLED

dawn canyon
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apb not communicating with gifs challenge (IMPOSSIBE GONE WRONG 💯 )

toxic pewter
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Purple just got buff

lucid pasture
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GOSH DARRRRRnm

toxic pewter
lucid pasture
chilly brook
toxic pewter
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I played prot pally and ended up changing to holy pally

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I think holy is more fun

lucid pasture
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who asked

toxic pewter
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I think you holy suits you more

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You are a holy pally

chilly brook
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The only paladin I'm playing is Lost Ark

dawn canyon
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healing 🤡

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tank wog xeos

sick sentinel
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1.0 holy paladin, you put up wisdom and mights, and then spam holy light or whatever until your mana bar goes empty

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then u start attacking

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i was there

dawn canyon
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course u dont know how it works deadge

chilly brook
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boring

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it's ok tho

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it's gg

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he'll have a new main in 4 weeks

sick sentinel
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whos that me

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have new main

toxic pewter
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Best healer in mythic+ is bdk currently anyway

sick sentinel
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no paladin, paladins are .... they are just different okay

lusty tiger
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It was only like a +19 or something ); everyone left after

toxic pewter
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Dang haha

sick sentinel
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hol up wait a minute

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so, i re-roll purple, i do 40k dps?

vernal vale
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No you get floor PoV

sick sentinel
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maybe i do hunter

lusty tiger
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Hunter rota is soulless

sick sentinel
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bm go BRRR

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used to,

lusty tiger
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Bm go [/petattack] [/petattack] [/petattack]

sick sentinel
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pretty much

lusty tiger
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If u can use emojis to describe a spec then i don’t want it

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Warrior ain’t a spec

dawn canyon
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paladin = deadge

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dk = ♿

lusty tiger
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Jesus I kek

dawn canyon
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mage = deadge

lusty tiger
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My bud makes arcane look kinda fun

sick sentinel
lusty tiger
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I like mm for when i am feeling lazy in keys

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Big numbers, ranged, 1 button rota

sick sentinel
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i'm gunna make a fire or frost thing

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for him, i want arcane to work, but

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kinda big poopy

lusty tiger
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Mage is 💩

sick sentinel
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arcane explosion spam can be great,

lusty tiger
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Pugging mage is bad imo

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They need support

sick sentinel
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arcane mage is great in theory and in practice until you run out of mana

lusty tiger
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No that doesn’t happen w urh

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Or like proper mana management

Also I think they build some mastery

sick sentinel
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AE spam is exspensive as hell, but it can big huge damage with enough mobs

lusty tiger
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Ok man

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Keep ur dream alive

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Let’s c the logs on ur shiny new blue boi

ocean yoke
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level 10 arcane mage the most powerful class

lusty tiger
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Yea I stopped doing low level BGs as a pastime because arcane mages are cringe there

sick sentinel
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i gotta run torghast to be fair,

vernal vale
urban portal
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Only in st

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Their cleave isn’t good until later

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But arcane explosion absolutely dumpsters aoe

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In low levels

toxic pewter
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anyone else watching MDI

sick sentinel
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hell no

toxic pewter
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I mean its all ridiculous with the same group comps and stuff but I still find it fun to watch I wont lie lol

sick sentinel
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hated as in i fall asleep

toxic pewter
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oh just boring

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fair enough

ocean yoke
vernal vale
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I havent played a low level toom that wasn't a warrior in a long time. I basically only level warrior alts.

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Only class I care to have more than 1 of

jagged pier
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@wild hemlock where talent tree?

wild hemlock
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dude i got pinged and i actually thought it dropped

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no wowhead posts still today we still have hope

sick sentinel
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its painfully boring and slow

wild hemlock
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california time is just getting rolling. day is still young

sick sentinel
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and it takes a rocket surgeon to figure out exactly the plays they are making

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watch them pull a +27 NW 4 trash packs onto the boss "this should be easy for them here"- caster

wild hemlock
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yogi u r on one today my brother

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MDI is great napping content

sick sentinel
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i have 2 episodes of stranger things to finish and then play some wow and maybe mdi

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i can watch it on the side maybe if i quit wow now

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fine i'll watch a bit when i get chances

toxic pewter
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im watching to get that title

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i wonder how it works how long until the title appears

autumn pendant
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2 hours

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And then prob should appear im game

fringe folio
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Anyone happen to have link to WA spell reflection tracker? The link I find seems not to be updated anymore for a while

chrome falcon
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which tracker

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the one that pops up when it does damage?

fringe folio
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The one that states when a spell comes up that you can reflect

sweet summit
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this one?

fringe folio
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Ah ye, that is more recent indeed. Also seems like it will be discontinued for the future. But for now, should work. Thanks for linking

wild hemlock
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honestly blizz is goofin if they dont drop a talent tree during MDI

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like during one of the days

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perfect marketing opportunity

minor helm
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I’ve looked into the crystal ball

wild hemlock
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hire me for marketing blizz

strong forum
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and the crystal ball looked back

minor helm
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All it said was cope

strong forum
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seethe

minor helm
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Greedy wow players want mdi and trees?

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Preposterous

chrome falcon
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well the alpha is on the launcher now apparently

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but there's nothing you can do with it

#

soonge

vernal vale
wild hemlock
#

soonge

#

im low key pissed we didnt get shaman tanks

#

its suchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh an easy design

vernal vale
#

I mean rockbiter was once a thing that added threat

wild hemlock
#

yes

vernal vale
#

I still argue making arcane mages a heal spec would be good for the class.

#

That's a pipe dream though

wild hemlock
#

a golden pipe dream lol

mighty valley
#

Evoker healer seems like kind of the same fantasy

chrome falcon
#

the last thing we need is another one

vernal vale
#

At least they are making evokers a mail wearing class.

wild hemlock
#

tbf tank shortage though

vernal vale
#

So much mail gets sent right to disenchant

#

Well I guess less now because personal loot drop stuff

#

But point still stands

mighty valley
#

adding a new tank class is a really short term solution to tank shortage

vernal vale
#

They should make the tanks actually function without borrowed power before they add another.

mighty valley
#

i think they all "function" lol

#

just a sliding scale of how powerful they are right now when they haven't needed to design them without temp systems

vernal vale
#

Well without reprisal our block goes way down.

mighty valley
#

there can be a balanced version where we have high mitigation windows and low mitigation windows if they want to commit to that

#

but like, we're not just "losing" current legendaries etc, there's just going to be a similar amount of power in a more permanent system in talents

#

plus a temp amount of power in future tier sets

icy yarrow
#

Dh's shouldn't hav even seen the light. a miss opportunity to bring a tank with pet rather than a fanboinpc character

vernal vale
#

Demonology warlock was kind of fun to do that with in all honesty.

ocean yoke
#

good old demonology

vernal vale
#

Just had to have a buddy que as tank and be the dps so you could get into groups

mighty valley
#

gimmick specs are fun but make less sense in the world of m+ and infinite scaling

vernal vale
#

Yeah, it definitely wouldn't have worked in MoP challenge modes even.

#

A little bit of tuning and it could have worked amazingly though

sick sentinel
#

What's the highest key ever done? Ever?

hazy edge
#

32? I think?

vernal vale
#

I might actually play my warlock if they brought that gimmick back

jagged pier
#

33 out of time 32 in time

#

this season

hazy edge
#

we'd probably have seen 33 maybe 34 if tgp came around

vernal vale
#

I remember seeing a big deal made when a 30 key was done.

sick sentinel
#

I see 27/28 in LFG all the time was juat curious was expecting like 40+ lol

jagged pier
#

key difficulty is exponential

#

not liner

wild hemlock
#

ok we got some alpha updates

toxic pewter
#

they loaded it to the launcher apparently?

sick sentinel
#

about to see 25 tyranical PF

mighty valley
#

if they type world_of_warcraft_dragonflight_alpha == true into the code it will be finished

sick sentinel
#

on mdi

modern brook
#

Sms that'd just return a boolean

mighty valley
urban portal
#

Does your uncle know apbs cousin

#

Or are they the same person

mighty valley
#

they work together. they host a poker night

#

they talk a lot about how they both definitely exist and work at blizzard james

modern brook
#

Talking about definitely existing sounds heavy tbh

minor helm
#

The names James

#

Blizzard James

wild hemlock
#

some1 help me think of a lebron james name for a wow toon

#

any class

modern brook
#

LeBron Names

#

Wow names peaked at monkeykong

#

Nothing will be funnier than that

minor helm
#

Wow names peaked at maidge

#

You know how dragonflight will be good?

#

Shadowlands is in hell which is very low, and dragons can fly in the air which is very high

#

High is above low

chrome falcon
#

but we took a portal in the sky to get to the shadowlands

modern brook
#

Can u imagine if they have the same guy as sl designing flight paths in dragon flight

sick sentinel
#

wow that's alotta words

sweet summit
#

no...

vernal vale
#

I legit don't care if they have multiple options as long as we can freely swap like we can now.

narrow fog
#

What we really need to know is...

#

Where is Arthas' body?

lofty widget
#

he's anima now

toxic pewter
#

anyone get the title yet or wat? ware my title?

#

Yeah I guess they will wait until the events are concluded and then award the achievement/title

vernal vale
#

Sadly hunter and rogue talent trees this week.

#

Still no warrior

chrome falcon
#

NO

#

COME ON

#

FUCK YOU BLIZZARD

vernal vale
#

My thought exactly

#

Watch it will be warrior and warlock last just before they reveal evoker

#

Because suddenly alphabetical order will mostly matter.

chrome falcon
#

literally who asked smh

pallid quiver
#

I vote we riot, burn down Blizz HQ; I've got the pitchforks

toxic pewter
#

ware hunter and rogue

#

oh i see on the forums ya

ocean yoke
#

where woyher

drifting fable
#

warrior is getting deleted sadly. have to make room for evoker

#

not enough space in the code

ocean yoke
#

fair enough, gentlemen it has been an honor

vernal vale
#

Sigh, another week wondering what we get

ocean yoke
#

well now that is an interesting rogue talent

unknown.png
chrome falcon
#

i was just about to say

#

outlaw looks SICK

strong forum
#

WTF

ocean yoke
#

enhance/outlaw windfury group about to pop off

jagged pier
#

WTF

#

thats massive

chrome falcon
#

i mean

#

could definitely see outlaw being a new enhance

#

bring one or two for juice your group

#

MM hunters getting wailing arrow as a talent

#

assa getting an aoe silence on a talent

#

sick

ocean yoke
#

kinda wild how many aoe silences they have been putting out already

chrome falcon
#

ok

#

that outlaw talent is telling me

#

we're gonna get that same with

#

party-wide anger management

ocean yoke
#

👀

chrome falcon
#

and yeah papa assa and MM and BM getting aoe silences

#

is really juicy

ocean yoke
#

disc too with star

chrome falcon
#

oh really

#

i didn't know that that's cool

ionic fern
#

New dungeon design : fewer casters..enjoy your aoe silences.

chrome falcon
#

time for prot to get an aoe disarm

#

are there even going to be pvp talents in the new system? because i want disarm back as a pve talent

#

also that new assa poison that reduces targets damage by 3% is interesting

#

wonder if that works on bosses and that's assa rogue's version of a raid buff

strong forum
#

probably

vernal vale
#

Sadly they made a lot of them immune.

chrome falcon
#

it was a pretty ridiculous ability

vernal vale
#

Loving the look of an outlaw/windfury in my group lol

feral jewel
#

Rogues get energy from wf procs right?

vernal vale
#

Gonna have to convince the raid lead it's worth though lol

#

I'm struggling to get them to put the enhance in my group now even after sharing the chart.

#

Speaking of AOE interrupts think that might mean we might get aoe shout interrupt or gag order

jagged pier
#

<@&257983573498265600>

lusty tiger
#

I miss gag order

chrome falcon
#

it'll be back

#

100%

#

seems so obvious

lofty widget
#

what was that? a kick on SS?

chrome falcon
#

gave heroic throw a short CD and made it silence

lofty widget
#

interesting

chrome falcon
#

SS used to have a dispel

lofty widget
#

give it back blizz!

#

i clearly started warrior too late

lusty tiger
vernal vale
#

Gag order made grouping in that one random caster so mich better.

#

Didn't have to wait for the dps to do it.

lusty tiger
#

Gag order = clean af pulls

vernal vale
#

I can think of a pull in just about every dungeon we have now where I would love to have gag order.

jagged pier
#

which is why it would be broken

#

as we can spam HT in prot

lofty widget
#

does it work like vengeance sigil silence then?

#

cause that does indeed sound busted

chrome falcon
#

well gag order gave it a cooldown

vernal vale
#

If it gives a 5 or even a 10sec CD to heroic throw its still a useful bit foe the kit.

chrome falcon
#

it could give it a 20 second cooldown and it would still be great

vernal vale
#

^

#

It's all about using it for that initial group up.

cinder storm
#

Guys

#

Coming from the future

#

We get

#

Aoe SR

chrome falcon
#

i would not be surprised by that

#

honestly

#

they keep putting it on bad legendaries and pvp talents

ocean yoke
#

is it a warrior talent or prot talent though bubbles

cinder storm
#

A choreghast thing

vernal vale
#

AoE spell reflect is great if it actually reflects shit and doesn't make it just a raid CD that prevents you from using it when you would want/need it.

#

As it is the list of things it doesn't reflect just makes it a damage reduction for magic most of the time.

lusty tiger
#

Just make spell reflect scale off war stats and let us reflect everything lol

distant crystal
#

make it hasted cooldown ratge

lusty tiger
#

That would be dope

#

Gag order and hasted spell reflect

#

Coooom

wild hemlock
#

i felt something coming today @jagged pier

#

just wasnt the warrior tree 😦

shut summit
#

😎

jagged pier
#

😎

chilly brook
#

These hunter talent trees are litty af

chrome falcon
#

i was not expecting wailing arrow

#

but it's cool

sick sentinel
#

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

#

rogue

#

yello boi..... i have to look...

lusty tiger
#

🤢

sick sentinel
#

2l mtn dew

lusty tiger
#

Lmfao wut

#

U have a rogue slave who carries around 2l of Mountain Dew for u?

sick sentinel
#

i have no idea where he come from but that sounds okay story to me

narrow fog
lusty tiger
#

Your picture looks like a tiny story board

narrow fog
#

And probably the edgiest description I have ever read on a discord.

#

Are you 13 by any chance?

mighty valley
#

weird thing to ask

chrome falcon
#

extremely weird

lofty widget
#

psure he/she was referincg yogis pic as well

#

so nothing to do with you

midnight mural
dawn canyon
#

it was me

#

i shat in his cheerios

lusty tiger
narrow fog
#

AHAHAHAH

#

My bad

#

😂 😂 😂

narrow fog
lusty tiger
#

even if i was...

#

"a tiny storyboard" set u off?

narrow fog
#

Relax I don't work at blizzard.

mighty valley
#

i technically have an anime pfp and i'm old as hell

hazy edge
#

???

#

sin has a giga huge part/raid buff?

toxic pewter
#

My bad wrong channel I was thinking about pvp

hazy edge
#

ah ye

#

well

toxic pewter
#

What did assassination get for raid buff

hazy edge
#

making someone do % less dam everytime they try and burst is pretty good

toxic pewter
#

Oh wow that is good

#

Does that stack or what

chrome falcon
#

i wonder if that's better or worse than 10% stam

hazy edge
#

Shiv makes the DR more, and they can increase the base DR with a passive talent. so it's like 3%/3.6% dr then w/ shiv its 6%/7.2% dr

chrome falcon
#

defensively

mighty valley
#

wish they'd make raid buffs a little more specific so it doesn't just boil down to "bring one of each"

urban portal
#

Timing your shiv for a tank hit

#

Though shiv is supposed to be used on cd for ass rogues

oblique garnet
#

Ah great immunity and raid DR

sick sentinel
#

you know i'm so glad that demogorgons, mindflayers, and vecna aren't in wow, they seems pretty scary, ghuun, and n'zoth for sure look/act/live like em, and any other the lovecraft inspired bosses, too many to count

toxic pewter
#

new item added can transfer cosmic flux account wide now

open bluff
#

and only for a cost of 250 flux

#

(1500 flux to send 1250 to another toon)

urban portal
#

same as soul ash

sick sentinel
#

ash/cinder torghast grind is good if u have a 280 main and a bunch of shitter alts i guess

#

i mean, hmmm. i don't see gaining fluxes as being a problem at all,

#

1 full LFR clear with normal boss trash awards something like, 1500-2000, that's enough for 1 leggo in 2 hours ish as tank or healer, EZ

toxic pewter
#

ash/cinder can be bought from vendor in ZM

#

then sent via bonesmith in korthia

sick sentinel
#

u son of a bitch, im in. im 16580/21k to perma augment, prolly need the rep anyway

toxic pewter
#

nice i got my perma augment a bit ago i like it

#

but nah you can buy cinders/ash I think at honored iirc? so you can buy even right now if you want

sick sentinel
#

i got 2 more keys to do anyways, and i wont get into it but some kinda BS in canada, can't call 911, can't use debit cards country wide, some say will be like this until monday

toxic pewter
#

thats not good

bold nimbus
patent osprey
#

Yup fk rogers. I have no Internet either @sick sentinel

cinder nova
balmy canyon
#

You guys think its worth opening the vault as prot aiming to get a 278 scale to use next season or will the other tank trinket options be better than scale?

cinder storm
#

You are fine with a 272 scale, I keep looting as prot but once you get your sword and shield, you can loot as arms/fury

strong forum
#

^

#

Next season you'll run SoD trinkets again

#

Scale is not remotely good enough to be used next patch

cinder nova
#

Exclusively SOD?

#

I mean, OWS is a gimmie

#

But what else in there is worth the hassle

#

I would've though OWS and Danny trinket would be BIS?

dawn canyon
#

Rdm OWS aegis

#

Like what else do you want

cinder nova
#

Aegis is an M+ trinket tbh, maybe a couple of SFO fights could make some use of it

#

RDM I've actually seen slap, but I dunno if it'll slap as hard as Dreadfire

dawn canyon
#

Cant comment on dfv since i forgot what it does

#

Just that heraldry is prolly Okayge if ur a vers nerd

cinder nova
#

Assuming a 310 ilvl it's 32.8K every 1.5m

#

Pretty fat slaps

#

I wonder what the highest DPS trinkets are for Pwarr? OWS seems like it'd be up there.

#

I'm guessing it'd probably be OWS and Faulty

#

Scars?

#

Lol, how and why

dawn canyon
#

Also does like 30k

#
  • stat shit
cinder nova
#

It's dogwater now, why wouldn't it be dogwater then?

dawn canyon
#

It is shit but it it's dam

#

It's the 2nd highest simming Trinket for the dps too

#

It's just massive fucking simbait

cinder nova
#

idk man it didn't even sim higher than my 265 sigil when I got one way back on my first H jailer kill

#

Oh, sorry - it did sim higher, but it was like single digits, so it was entirely within the margin of error.

#

Plus even if it was, there's the whole killing you bit that makes it pretty much not worth the fraction of a percent DPS bump

dawn canyon
#

That's what i was saying critcake

#

Sigil for yailer execute

#

Except doesnt exist now

cinder nova
#

Yes

#

Tangentially, my 278 OPC outsims my 265 Sigil

#

So I guess mythic sigil is where it's at

#

Oh right, I forgot all about the WOD stuff

#

Did Grimrail have any good trinkets?

#

It has two.

#

Both are stat sticks.

#

Handker looks good

dawn canyon
#

Aj + eye

#

Huge dam execute

cinder nova
#

It wont.

#

It wont.

urban portal
#

any stat is good if you have a lot of it

cinder nova
#

Yeah this is a "save some copium for the rest of us" situation

urban portal
#

the garrote one is funny

#

especially on lords i think

cinder nova
#

My copium is that paizo will actually start producing quality art for their APs like they did in 1st edition.

#

But that's not relevant here.

urban portal
#

yeah im saying you can dot both guys

#

just in general

cinder nova
#

Imagine Handkerchief in PVP

#

Literal grief tool

urban portal
#

the problem is just numbers

#

like the vers trinket

cinder nova
#

That said, Faulty is miles ahead of any current trinkets.

#

So keeping an eye on it for S4 is important.

#

Even the 272 that Ze has is clobbering.

urban portal
#

yeah faulty will still be crazy

cinder nova
#

I'd be shocked if anything eclipsed OWS + FCM

strong forum
#

This neck isn't good

#

Proc rate of it is rly low

cinder nova
#

I mean, still better than other necks probably

#

Scaled up it'll be a few hundred damage, maybe.

#

And if it's budgeted like any other neck, then it's just a better neck

#

Oh fuck I forgot about this.

#

I wonder if they'll make it SL dungeon boss

#

there it is

#

It'd be mandatory tbh

strong forum
#

This set bonus will probably be nerfed to flat dmg

#

It would fit the rework of legion loot they've done so far

#

The ring from cos went from % to flat dmg
The trinket from dht went from % to flat dmg

dawn canyon
#

Ill make u a weakaura so u get a fat Text if ur missing buff in kara even before key

strong forum
#

It'll activate but it'll be flat damage

#

Bet

dawn canyon
#

Isnt that just vulpera racial or some shit

strong forum
#

Its worse than vulp racial

#

Cuz vulp racial is a large but flat amount

#

Ya this ring will see some abuse

cinder nova
#

Gamble?

#

I don't remember it doing anything particular

strong forum
#

It ramps up in dmg

#

If you fail the gamble, it backfires

dawn canyon
#

But is it better than mechagon Ring

#

If u highroll ig

strong forum
#

Potentially

dawn canyon
#

Also h/m if u wanted for fury

cinder nova
#

Has some egghead already figured out the the damage at 300+ and/or the delta for how frequently you should gamble vs. wait?

dawn canyon
#

Since false accuser is going away

strong forum
#

You can check on wowhead

#

They have ilvl modifiers

cinder nova
#

Nah doesn't break the native ilvl ranges

#

Gotta wait for the S4 drop to have it updated.

#

Wonder if it'll do more than the dagger from SOD

urban portal
#

not getting a 226 if you are a warrior

#

thats what

#

council was not a easy boss

dawn canyon
#

I finally get mythic CN sword color

#

(i am very bad at m weppie looting)

urban portal
#

yeah the ydo

dawn canyon
#

So i go venthyr

strong forum
#

Blowtorch did huge dmg ye

dawn canyon
#

And buy funny sword

strong forum
#

You can keep cov weapons

#

They don't swap once bought

#

So you can buy as venthyr, go kyrian and voila you got your sword

dawn canyon
#

Ye pilav was running 2 venthyr sire 233s and was NF gladge

#

I can see 7 Max per raid for us

#

But yknow

#

It's not bad

strong forum
#

Wish we'd've gotten better 1h mogs besides KT weapon

dawn canyon
#

Can if u have the actual item

strong forum
#

The tmog option you can rightclick

#

To choose between back or waist sheath

#

For KT weppy, yes

dawn canyon
#

Tfury on waist would go into the ground before the hilt even ends

#

They did

#

Not for gloves yet tho

#

Cant get double Dino from dazalor

#

Very

#

You cant get 2 of the big tusk side either

#

And then there's stuff like the legion naaru scenario ones

#

Where it's only 1 side

#

So if u mog the other it's hidden

#

If u had both seasons of it could you pad it for demonic/??? Glad peepostudy

#

Id go for the one to match the dragon

#

Ah ye the uhh tomb Set?

#

Ye

#

Im bad with glad season names

#

All I know is mud has 12 warriors and r1s on like all of them peepo

sick sentinel
#

Is it possible to do Jailer's gauntlet layer 8 as prot? I'm getting the fleshcraft necrolord powers and still getting destroyed on floor 1

dawn canyon
#

Gaudlet is a get mw/ww/brm angle

#

Have em oneshot it

strong forum
#

Gauntlet is omega easy

#

All you have to do is get past the first floor

#

Then it's GG

#

Take your time on first floor, all you need is the 50% leech and cc immunity from banner

#

And you literally can't fail

#

The FC powers are largely useless, you want the banner powers

open gazelle
#

With the double legendary how long can a prot warrior get conq banner to last for?

dawn canyon
#

on single target

#

100% uptime

#

dungeons you can get high 90s but stuff like spires angels obviously fucks it

open gazelle
#

What trinkets should I be running for m+? Scale obviously imo what else?

cobalt seal
#

Scale isnt mandatory

open gazelle
#

I like

#

Snap threat and an absorb

toxic pewter
#

I use scale and soleah personally

#

I enjoy the extra stats

cinder nova
#

Scale/Phial here

#

meme keys I run Chains of Dom/Phial

onyx vessel
#

Scale and codex here

cinder nova
#

Codex more like copium

onyx vessel
open bluff
#

IQD reporting in literallytrash

strong forum
#

Soleah and opc is what I use

sweet summit
#

i use elegy and opc i think?

verbal hill
#

where would you craft unity if you play all 3 specs?

sweet summit
#

helmet ideally, assuming you don't lose 4 set from that or wrists/ring

onyx vessel
#

What do we think of iqd for prot

#

Got one at 278

sweet summit
#

stinky poopoo

#

there are better alternatives

onyx vessel
#

Figured

#

Gave me 938 haste im like pretty good

#

Looks at cd

sweet summit
#

yea

onyx vessel
#

Ows 246 gives what 200 forever after 1min of cb

strong forum
#

iqd is good good for parsing

#

but 3min CD and can give healers mana

#

so youll never get stats during execute

agile pumice
#

I did a jailer HC as fury yesterday and got meleed on pull and then got healed by someone's iqd lmao

strong forum
topaz field
sick sentinel
blazing condor
#

thats why you get a wa for it

#

so you can see what you'll proc

sick sentinel
#

okay, can someone show CPM for like a 20 key

#

rage i can work out, cpm is alot more vague to me

lofty widget
sick sentinel
#

i logged something, nothing of value though, failed on all fronts probably if i had to guess, besides we beat timer

lofty widget
#

link it

sick sentinel
#

7.0k dps, 2k wasted rage, 50% of those cpm,

#

nothing worth writing home about