protection

[mental scarab]

Thats why you never can switch from war

Other tanks feel weird

[onyx vessel]

Weird isnt the right word actually get slapped

[peak carbon]

I just started to play Prot Warr this week, and I dont understand how you guys do it. Every other tank is so simple compared to this shit

Maybe I am too dumb to play Pwarr☹

[strong forum]

Once you understand the priorities it's a tad bit simpler to play

[narrow fog]

He is right, other tanks are simpler.

Maybe a case for bdk can be made

[strong forum]

Na bdk is still alot easier to get by on

[narrow fog]

It's meta now right?,

Atleast in m+

[peak carbon]

BDK has a high ceiling, but is pretty easy to pilot good enough

[strong forum]

It's meta and easier

[lofty widget]

bdk this tier is pretty brain dead, no?

[narrow fog]

I wouldn't say brain dead

[peak carbon]

Playing Prot Warr (at least as a newcomer) feels like I am just splashing around pressing everything and just trying not to drown

Monk is braindead.😎

Keg-smash kingdom

[narrow fog]

Pwarr should remove 2 abilities probs so it is better to play lol

For newcomers

Experienced players will likely disagree there

[strong forum]

• Focus on hitting your shield slams on CD no matter what
• don't overcap rage -> press IP
• press alot of revenge
• use SB when tanking

That's the omega basics

[narrow fog]

That's the problem, it's too many basics imo

[strong forum]

Then throw in reprisal usage into the mix, - intervene basically on CD

• charge when you see opportunities

[narrow fog]

One basic needs to be binned

[peak carbon]

But its kinda fun to spam buttons like a madman

[strong forum]

Then throw in outburst Management into the mix

[narrow fog]

😂

[strong forum]

Then throw in necro banner

[peak carbon]

I can see how it can be fun to play when you start getting a hang of it. Keeping banner up etc

[strong forum]

Then throw in defensive usage

[lofty widget]

it's very rewarding to play correctly

[narrow fog]

Nomeratur out here writing the Protection Warrior Field Equations.

[strong forum]

Then re-learn to use reprisal cuz you can never be good enough at reprisal

[narrow fog]

Bro, I uninstalled the game at step 2 by this point...

[cobalt seal]

then forget about defensive usage for 80% of key and play with 4 other tanks

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/savage-shake-head-disapprove-no-too-weak-gif-12119248

[cobalt seal]

[narrow fog]

That's why no one wants to play fucking WoW

[peak carbon]

Feels like I am about to climb Mt Everest. But I am at the first step, where I need to lose 20lbs before I even starts training on how to climb😂

[strong forum]

A thinking man right there

Funny thing is, even when playing fully offensively you'll have 80%+ uptime of SB

Altho I guess if you play seismic instead of reprisal that number dwindles alot

But that's just masochism

[orchid frigate]

ugh im not even there at manage outburst yet

[strong forum]

Same tbh I still fuck it up a few times a key

[orchid frigate]

need to have some omega basics for outburst and banner management 😉

[cobalt seal]

isn't that more dmg?

[zealous willow]

Do u guys think that prot warr is behind other classes if u look on fantasy aspect ?
We have shield slam from vanila , shield block , revage and etc.
Maybe 1-2 new spells total from wotlk --- to --- Shadowlands.
While other tanks have tons of new spells ?

[dawn canyon]

new ≠ fantasy

[blazing condor]

dont fix what aint broke 😎

[mortal brook]

Bear is pretty base form low fantasy still. maul is still the 2006 low poly bear form attached to the animation. Not much distinction between swipe and thrash

And they never did put in like half of the grizzlemaw attack animations

Tclap still very satisfying animation imo. Esp with the glyph

[orchid frigate]

but the sound with the glyph is a bit annoying

sounds like im being shot at

[cobalt seal]

bdk - introduced in wrath - monk MoP - VDH - Legion

ofc other tanks got new stuff over time

they were introduced after

[strong forum]

Only more aoe if you heavily play around it

But in practice it's even harder to pull off

Cuz your banner uptime suffers alot

Like you have to omega tryhard to keep banner up

[sick sentinel]

i still like my basge for no addons idea

then you see oh this player did well without requiring dbm to call everything out for them

onky thing he has different is hotkeys and possibly some macro they havent yet shared

maybe better worse gear,

[cobalt seal]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-me-trying-to-find-who-asked-spongebob-spunch-bob-gif-22526294

[dawn canyon]

i will not invite anyone without dbm/bw to a raid and neither should you

[sick sentinel]

he did this easily without addons and didnt die, i can do this too

i believe in myself more because i see its not as compelx or difficult as people make it out to be, nobody in my raid needed dbm or weak aura for these last 4 raid bosses

[cobalt seal]

GL in jailer going in blind

pre nerf

[jagged pier]

I would like your raid to do mythic jailer without WAs

[dawn canyon]

UNKILLABLE

[sick sentinel]

ur still blofked if your trying to get at me cro

[cobalt seal]

HC is enough pre nerf

[sick sentinel]

sorry, no regrets

[jagged pier]

Well not unkillable, but certainly very very difficult

[dawn canyon]

if u do m jailer without the weakaura that might be a 1k puller or more

prenerf

now he just dies if u get past

[cobalt seal]

2k since they have yogi

[jagged pier]

Well u still need some for p1 and 2

[narrow fog]

This is the worst part about raiding atm

No wonder ppl play tbc classic lol

[sick sentinel]

maybe if thats the case they shouldnt release the mythic heroic version with invisible hit lines, that dont get fixed for months,

[jagged pier]

What that has nothing to do with WAs

[dawn canyon]

i dont mind it since weakauras is my favourite addon

[narrow fog]

How hard is it to just ban WAs and make simpler mechanics?

[cobalt seal]

what

LOOOOL

you want classic raids?

[dawn canyon]

if you ban weakauras you end up playing classic again

[jagged pier]

Well they have said they make fights with WAs in mind

[cobalt seal]

No ty

[dawn canyon]

and thats so fucking boring

[narrow fog]

Kek

[cobalt seal]

go play classic

[dawn canyon]

except halo since thats no weakaurable but a rare exception

[cobalt seal]

if you want raid bosses with 1 mechanic

[sick sentinel]

or there isnt possiblity of 7 different light blue circles that csn all spawn and look vaugely the same and you need to remember this one has a big flat ring around it and it moves fsster than tge others in animations and so thats how you know its not tge bomb or soak

[narrow fog]

See, you are coping so hard you are missing the point and started to insult me.

[dawn canyon]

desaugne actually a good simple fight just that its 2nd fight and u just kill through

simpler mechanics will kill rwf

[cobalt seal]

where did I insult you?

[sick sentinel]

or the boss is about to do a tank buster, weapon turns bright orange and then red at final have to dr moment

[narrow fog]

But whatever, wow players don't want to hear any opinion that is different from their own.

[jagged pier]

But mythic shouldnt be tuned around them

[narrow fog]

@cobalt seal here

[cobalt seal]

what

how is that a insult

[narrow fog]

Who the fuck cares about that?

[strong forum]

You want simpler mechanics, but 90%+ mechanics of raids are fairly simple

[jagged pier]

True

[dawn canyon]

yes but even mythic we scrubs do is hard enough to warrant weakauras

[narrow fog]

Stop playing a good guy pls.

[dawn canyon]

it makes them a lot of money

[broken crater]

the interaction/overlaps of mechanics is what kills people

not individual mechanics (unless youre playing with a steering wheel or something)

[narrow fog]

But why should I, as a casual player care?

[jagged pier]

Halondrus pre nerfs have very simple.mechanics

U just had to not overlap them

[dawn canyon]

halo is a rare exception

[cobalt seal]

what are you talking about

[sick sentinel]

the problem is because i pereonally find everything obsfuscated video and a bit with traah mobs audio wise what they are doing

[dawn canyon]

this is an explanation why they wont do it

[narrow fog]

Well it's a poor explanation.

[jagged pier]

Even rygelon and lords are simple mechanics

Pre nerf

[sick sentinel]

i think thats evide t by that i turned on voice alerts for everything

[narrow fog]

All these mechanics are simple and yet it took massive nerfs so that 1k kills can be achieved on mythic.

Weird innit

[dawn canyon]

a simple boss with lords tuning it not easy

RWF lords was killed like a minute into enrage so before the damage amp phase you a) had to have the roster b) gear on those chars c) potentially extend enrage

thats not very easy is it

[broken crater]

its relatively clear going by the ion asmon interview that they are looking into ways of restricting addons specifically in a raid environment

which of course also does hit WAs

restrict doesnt mean ban

[narrow fog]

You have people like Sense telling you it was too hard at start, but some random dudes in this discord saying it shouldn't have been nerfed, while only playing M+.

[broken crater]

which in turn doesnt mean mechanics would be giga simple going forward

[dawn canyon]

i am not saying it should not be nerfed

i am just saying gutting weakauras is the wrong thing to do

[strong forum]

Numbers don't have to do with complexity of mechanics

Very important distinction

[narrow fog]

They do. They allow more fuck ups.

[sick sentinel]

i just for me i believe its that there shouldbe like the cartoon glow, trash can on sidewalk has thick outlines everything flat you know the trash can is gunna get knocked down in this scene,

[strong forum]

If yiu fuck up a mechanic on jailer you still wipe

[broken crater]

what did i just read

[dawn canyon]

i love a simple mechanic like andy rings that oneshot entire raid

[strong forum]

You can't just outheal it

[sick sentinel]

like the boss is going to kill you with tank bust, he or his weapon glows

[narrow fog]

Which brings me back to a point I made earlier in this chat I believe, the number/way of 1-shot mechanics needs to be changed.

Or, we can just keep watching everyone lose interest in raiding

While we inhale our copium.

[broken crater]

I mean many mechanics are like that

however you only see it at the time of execution

not prior

because its a timed ability

either telegraphed via energy bar

or literally just on a repeating timer

[sick sentinel]

and its easy to tell that the glow is that ttack like dessia is decapitator with big axe, probabky attempts execute ability

[meager quail]

Eh, the difficulty of Sepulcher has got me interested in starting raiding, found it boring as hell in the past.

[broken crater]

youd think so but you still have pugs kill literally every other boss first

because being a melee boss that chases you down isnt already obvious enough

so clearly that isnt working

[sick sentinel]

weapon axe head can gloe bright yellow beforeas she does it

[narrow fog]

Ok, how much of Mythic Sepulch have you cleared?

[broken crater]

13/7

[narrow fog]

It is now a short time away from end of tier.

[strong forum]

Blizz already telegraphs alot of abilities with just voicelines, so you know what's going on

[narrow fog]

😂

[jagged pier]

Playing with sound monka

[strong forum]

Important thing to remember

[broken crater]

imagine not playing with sound lmao

[strong forum]

You have energy bars, cast bars, voice lines, visuals. Not all of those always do the trick, but they're there

[jagged pier]

Havent played with sound since vanilla

[meager quail]

Like 2 bosses, cause I’ve not been in a guild. I’m disappointed as hell by them nerfing the raid so hard and cutting the tier so short.

[narrow fog]

I rest my case then.

Let's keep coping collectively, in 2 years at this rate, we will have 500 Mythic kills of a tier.

And then down she goes.

[cobalt seal]

[dawn canyon]

their game to market not mine

i like how addons are currently

and weakauras are great

[narrow fog]

Ok.

[sick sentinel]

im torn if i love or hate addons currently

completely asundered, drifiting off to realm of dont care

[blazing condor]

im pretty addon/WA conservative and prefer not being dependant on things telling me what to do

with that said though aint no way i'd play without DBM

[narrow fog]

But hey, atleast we can watch the world first guilds (orgs) do RMT and have a WeakAura guy sitting next to them clear mythic Galakrond's Dungeon of Domination or whatever.

[dawn canyon]

they don't rmt

[minor helm]

Proof on RMT?

Or are you coping and madge?

[dawn canyon]

also

they have 4 weakaura guys

[sick sentinel]

prove they are NOT using RMT is ehat i say

[narrow fog]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[sick sentinel]

not prove they are prove they arent

[minor helm]

Do you understand how making an accusation works yogi?

Or are you just dumb about everything

[sick sentinel]

how do you spend 250m gold

[narrow fog]

Ok, let's say they are not. Can you deny they literally take out huge gold loans or buy via wow token just to progress thru a tier?

[sick sentinel]

if you srent rmt

[minor helm]

Both of those are legal things to do

[sick sentinel]

how do you get that much

[minor helm]

Boost

Something you can’t do

[dawn canyon]

dude its 100k $ worth of tokens they dont do that

they just slave carries

[narrow fog]

Ok, now tell me a sub 200 guild that is gonna do that?

[blazing condor]

they go into debt and then spend the rest of the patch boosting

[minor helm]

Sub 200 guilds aren’t doing the race dumbass

[dawn canyon]

you get 40 MILLION gold for an early jailer sale

[broken crater]

so because you dont know about boosting means they rmt?

[narrow fog]

Ye, and at this rate, soon they won't be even doing the raid at all.

[sick sentinel]

how is spending 100k through the wow store any different thwn rmt

[narrow fog]

But sure, keep calling me dumbass for no reason

Fucking retard

[blazing condor]

ayo

chill

[narrow fog]

He started it

[dawn canyon]

they are not spending through store as the sum is stupid

[broken crater]

because they dont? what makes you even say that in the first place lmao

[narrow fog]

I finished it

[minor helm]

Lmao

[blazing condor]

grats youre both stupid

[narrow fog]

Done talking now

[dawn canyon]

finally

[narrow fog]

This is going nowhere

[minor helm]

[dawn canyon]

@minor helm W

[blazing condor]

pwarr disc has been incredibly angy for a while

[sick sentinel]

well either they are buying wow tokens from store or rmt

[broken crater]

I mean

there is this resource called rage

they all just cosplaying

[blazing condor]

and just like in-game it's only wasted

[sick sentinel]

cuz if it doeent come from store comes from outside source

[broken crater]

thats not how economy works

[dawn canyon]

they are not buying tokens i told you the equivalent of the token price to assure you its not worth to spend money on

[minor helm]

Yogis in his own world

[narrow fog]

They sell boosts. Yes. And where do people buy the gold to pay the boosts?

[minor helm]

He can’t be in RWF guild cause they rmt

[sick sentinel]

see your world through my eyes

[mellow bridge]

I can probably bring my prot warr to our myth farm finally

[broken crater]

players that buy boosts either farm it or buy tokens
that gold goes to rwf guilds. they stockpile months in advance

[minor helm]

I really don’t wanna

[dawn canyon]

that is not their issue

[mellow bridge]

thoughts on wall vs reprisal for lords?

[dawn canyon]

https://twitter.com/Veyloris/status/1507857168384806915?s=20&t=5uTI_svKIcmTHJBQ9bJJvA

Veyloris (@Veyloris)

Hey it's my favorite tweet of the year 🙃

Costs not totally finalized since our race isn't over, but...

Gear Trades ~245m
BoEs ~215m

Total spend ~723m
Total debt ~535m

Never leaving jail. Ever.

Total spend is equivalent to ~4.6k tokens which is worth about $93k. Woof.

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Twitter · Mar 26, 2022, 11:08 PM

[broken crater]

hey now. no on topic discussion pls

[dawn canyon]

always rep

[mellow bridge]

idk i see a shitton of wall in logs

for lords specifically

[dawn canyon]

bad

[sick sentinel]

ehhh i dunno man just it seems fishy to me

[mellow bridge]

highest parse is wall too

🤔

[broken crater]

whats fishy about it

[sick sentinel]

why do you need 500 milion gold to do this that costs 100k usd

... how

[broken crater]

?

are you like

entirely unaware of what effort goes into split runs

to buy loot off randoms

to have consumables for weeks

for 100+ wipes per day for 20 ppl

[dawn canyon]

they gave u 5 mil for a tier piece traded

they have like 50 characters and they got 4set on like 30

[broken crater]

you seem to have some big opinion about a topic you are nearly entirely clueless about which is scary

[sick sentinel]

it seems weird to me that you need the gold cap 50 times ovet

[dawn canyon]

pvp boosts/other trades/condumes

[broken crater]

whats weird about it

blame blizzard for low key requiring split runs

legendaries on multiple chars

[dawn canyon]

if you give out a fucking goldcap for a raiders 4p then you will spend a bunch of money

[cobalt seal]

Its yogi

He doesnt understand

[dawn canyon]

@sick sentinelhave u watched seppy rwf?

[cobalt seal]

But like petar he thinks he knows stuff

[broken crater]

I had to read that thrice

[cobalt seal]

Like how to kill wow in 1 ez step

Remove WA

Wow dead

[narrow fog]

Rent free.

[sick sentinel]

nope, i stopped raiding after running ep with a guild, it workec but stuffy office cubicles i nedc that report in 20 minutes type vibe

[broken crater]

what

[dawn canyon]

ye i had a typo in there

[narrow fog]

No wonder people don't wanna raid retail these days

[cobalt seal]

Lol

[broken crater]

???

[dawn canyon]

raid is fun

[broken crater]

what is this

[cobalt seal]

Lets raid classic!

[broken crater]

madness

[narrow fog]

Tbc classic somehow someway has more logs than sepulchre

[cobalt seal]

Its not like wow raiding is still the best on market

[narrow fog]

So, digest that pls

[cobalt seal]

Because they do stuff for wa

[broken crater]

sure, because tbc is wildly popular in china and the SL ship sank with 9.1 at the latest already

[narrow fog]

Exactly

Now

Why did SL sink?

[cobalt seal]

For sure wasnt the raiding lol

[broken crater]

covenants imo

[sick sentinel]

shitty 9.0 launched

it was FUCKING RAW

[narrow fog]

I agree, but all the things tie into it.

[broken crater]

nathria is considered a mostly good tier except for slg

[narrow fog]

Also agree there.

[broken crater]

giga long s1

[cobalt seal]

SL raiding is good lol

[broken crater]

sod was initially considered a good tier too except for kel

only in recent months it came up that sod was rather garbo

just like sepulcher

people liked it a lot for 2 months

[minor helm]

People hated sod the whole time

[narrow fog]

Till they got hardstuck and ppl left for holiday, yes.

[dawn canyon]

sod got massively outscaled so u played 2 real bosses

[minor helm]

Where were y’all at?

[dawn canyon]

PS and sylv

[minor helm]

Stop dps on every boss

[sick sentinel]

iwish that tne 9.1 gems were i the 9.0 launch as part of the maw

and they didmt go away

[sweet summit]

the bosses are target dummies and people have many alts they do gdkp runs on for gold
barrier of entry is a lot lower in classic raids

cope harder

[broken crater]

^^^

[minor helm]

Nah number bigger!!!!!!!!

[broken crater]

ppl clear sunwell in an hour now

then do the same on opposing faction

[dawn canyon]

they killed it within 90 min on release

[broken crater]

theres a reason why speedrunning is so popular in tbc

because its fucking free

[narrow fog]

It is the fact they are easier, that most people can do them.

[dawn canyon]

wow has normal for that

if you dont want hard go do lfr or normal

[cobalt seal]

You have lfr

[broken crater]

tbf lfr is harder than normal

[sweet summit]

normal is harder than tbc raids

[minor helm]

[dawn canyon]

dont complain about mythic needing weakaura n shit

[sick sentinel]

depends who gets in the group

[minor helm]

Move the goalposts

[broken crater]

thats kinda the point

[minor helm]

Cope

[dawn canyon]

because you can run a mythic dungeon doesnt entitle you to do mythic raid

[broken crater]

you get 20 ppl

its always on average harder than normal

because 15/20 ppl are autohitting only

[dawn canyon]

lfr halondrus

1k hps healers

???????

[minor helm]

[broken crater]

lfr anduin

12 minutes

[dawn canyon]

didnt do lfr jailer and prolly never will

[jade socket]

this language and aggression isnt ok in this discord, if you have a problem with someone discuss it elsewhere

[minor helm]

Did 3 wipes on lfr jailer then called it good

[narrow fog]

He started it, I replied.

[dawn canyon]

mc in hole

[broken crater]

never even pulled jailer :3

[broken crater]

we arent in abrahamic times anymore

[narrow fog]

Don't see an issue in replying.

[cobalt seal]

Is this kinderguarden?

[sick sentinel]

lets not pretend like classic, tbc and wrath private wrvers havent existed forever now

[narrow fog]

Then tell that to the person who started it.

If we are not.

[broken crater]

youre the one advocating an eye for an eye

[cobalt seal]

Mom he started

[narrow fog]

Exactly, because it is fair.

[dawn canyon]

the insults are not equivalent whatsoever

[narrow fog]

Why should he insult me?

[broken crater]

[minor helm]

All he told you is to not write like that

[narrow fog]

If you think he should insult me, and then blame me for replying, idk what to say.

[jade socket]

very different tones, and taking it a step further instead of telling a mod isnt how you handle it

[cobalt seal]

You have a problem lol

[minor helm]

Ok but you can insult people with other things than what you said

[dawn canyon]

@minor helmpoopy head 🐷

[narrow fog]

Then you should stop insulting me in the first place, and no problem like this will arise again.

Or you can't do that and now want to switch blame?

[narrow fog]

Noted.

[meager quail]

I’ve no issue with you responding to an insult but as somebody who literally has brain damage and is fully aware of how that language has been used to bully and discriminate people like me, retard was a step too far.

[sick sentinel]

butt wipe.... turd burgalar.... uh huhuhuh

[jade socket]

either way move past it

[narrow fog]

Ok, I am sorry.

[wild hemlock]

cro has *

[cobalt seal]

"For a while"

[minor helm]

[cobalt seal]

I can give you my OF profile if you want to donate

[wild hemlock]

youve been a good doorknob lately 🙂

[cobalt seal]

Since you a fan of mine

You can donate

[sick sentinel]

yeahi understand how you feel about that word and i use it in private with friends, but there are words you dimp,y dont use towards and in presence of some groups of people especially you dont know them irl

[wild hemlock]

send me wow gold

[orchid frigate]

Was thinking a bit about methods elvui ban. Is it really that bad? Last raid there were never any fps issues related to elvui for me

[sweet summit]

帮助 tyrannical officers 帮助 right to freedom 帮助 ui destruction 帮助 raiders rise up 帮助 pro ui choice 帮助

[cobalt seal]

I'm not a fan of you

Thats not how it works

[minor helm]

帮助 tyrannical officers 帮助 right to freedom 帮助 ui destruction 帮助 raiders rise up 帮助 pro ui choice 帮助

[dawn canyon]

帮助 tyrannical officers 帮助 right to freedom 帮助 ui destruction 帮助 raiders rise up 帮助 pro ui choice 帮助

[sweet summit]

nah i haven't had any huge issues caused by elvui

[sick sentinel]

帮助 tyrannical officers 帮助 right to freedom 帮助 ui destruction 帮助 raiders rise up 帮助 pro ui choice 帮助

[dawn canyon]

its dumb but their call

[sweet summit]

but i also don't get to end bosses as early as they do

so who knows 🙂

[dawn canyon]

next tier u do

[minor helm]

What’d they say no ElvUI cause too bad frames?

[broken crater]

supposedly especially on anduin

when im giga sure its not elvui

[wild hemlock]

i plan on ditching elvui just to keep it simple

[dawn canyon]

unoptimized early into patch

[broken crater]

but some weakaura firing on unfiltered combat events

[wild hemlock]

but i also suck ass

[blazing condor]

well whatever fixes it

if that means no elvui

[sick sentinel]

if i can find out how toremove griffons i wont need elvui

[blazing condor]

then so be it

[meager quail]

Exactly. I use it all the time privately in the company of people who I know get it. Usually about myself when I walk into a door frame instead of through the open door because I can’t see or walk straight 😂

[dawn canyon]

details update interval does mess with andy

[broken crater]

well thats simple tbf

[broken crater]

it doesnt

[sick sentinel]

i tried a script

[meager quail]

Anyway, enough on the subject from me

[broken crater]

it literally has no influence even

[dawn canyon]

it does for me

i reduced it and go frames back

[broken crater]

let me link you a wa

[broken crater]

I had literal freezes in m+ when destru spammed RoF. same on anduin

tried out a lot of things

[sick sentinel]

all good, dont need more wa and addons fo slow shit down

[broken crater]

like, disabling plater, fast updates on details etc

[broken crater]

thats not how it works

[broken crater]

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[dawn canyon]

i have 1k weakaura and shit runs smooth so unless you have some with fried update interval they dont drag u down

[broken crater]

this is a WA that hides gryphons on load

[cobalt seal]

He doesnt know how stuff works lol

[broken crater]

1x

thats it

[minor helm]

You’re not gonna win this battle

[broken crater]

all it does is calling

MainMenuBarArtFrame.LeftEndCap:Hide();
MainMenuBarArtFrame.RightEndCap:Hide()  

which you could also macro alternatively

but then you have to use it after every laoding screen

which is rather pointless

funnily enough

[sick sentinel]

which gave me an error with alldons turned to off

[broken crater]

?

[sick sentinel]

so, fucj it, elvui/tukui

[cobalt seal]

Poor xep

[broken crater]

if you search for "Hide Gryphon" youll find a WA doing exactly the same --- except it ran on every frame for some reason :kekw

[broken crater]

how is that relatedto what you responded to

[strong forum]

Gotta unload the gryphons

[cobalt seal]

Its yogi xep

[strong forum]

144 times a second

[minor helm]

[strong forum]

That's some mad fast gryphons

[sick sentinel]

i asked here the other day someone linked me that exact code

i turned off all adons tried it, nothing

[broken crater]

well that code works

its not like it can not work

[dawn canyon]

try this one

it doesnt cost u more than 1 min

[broken crater]

the only thing that can go wrong is you using it the wrong way in a macro

[sweet summit]

well if you disable weak auras it won't work

[broken crater]

:kekw

[minor helm]

This 1 simple hack to unload griffins

Wow raiders don’t want you to know

[cobalt seal]

[dawn canyon]

if you dont feed them for long enough they die and fall off

[minor helm]

[sick sentinel]

well fuck

cuz i have maxdd out cooing and 3000 foods in bag/bank

so hes eating that bird boi

[broken crater]

cooing :omegalul

[sweet summit]

why are you trying to use external emotes...

[broken crater]

im dying

[sweet summit]

[minor helm]

:Sanderson

[broken crater]

why are you trying to use external emotes...

[sweet summit]

:dandersoo

[minor helm]

Not fixing it

[cobalt seal]

You guys ban bear emotes

....

[sick sentinel]

actually there is a bird boy crow lives around here so if i see him sometimes i throw him a donut or cookie

[sweet summit]

[lament musk]

dandersopn

[sweet summit]

bear

[minor helm]

[cobalt seal]

Fake bear

[sweet summit]

bear bear

[minor helm]

I don’t like how tall this emote is

[lament musk]

Isn't it the same size as any other emote

[broken crater]

🤫

[minor helm]

I guess it’s just real close to name

Too close to mister piggy

🐖

[broken crater]

what has johnson to do with this

[dawn canyon]

[sweet summit]

🦀

boris is no more

[cobalt seal]

Why cant wow ban WA like this discord bans emotes

[minor helm]

🦀

[cobalt seal]

[sweet summit]

not taking that bait

[cobalt seal]

[minor helm]

[dawn canyon]

😵‍💫

[lofty widget]

is legendaries in s4 gonna stay @ 291 ilvl?

[wild hemlock]

we dont know

[sick sentinel]

go ahead and name a monster more terrifying than headcrab

[wild hemlock]

probs not though

[sick sentinel]

ill wait

[broken crater]

yogi123

[sick sentinel]

that invovles me being npc

[broken crater]

youd be surprised

[sweet summit]

[sick sentinel]

aactually, amongSUS is a game

so your aint wrong

[sweet summit]

what

[minor helm]

[broken crater]

what

[sick sentinel]

well normally monsters are npcs

then i remembered amongus

[sweet summit]

[meager quail]

Sometimes I do wonder if you’re somebody’s attempt at a chat bot 😉

[wintry nymph]

[sick sentinel]

beep beep boop boop

error system criticsl failure

[meager quail]

Exposed!

[sick sentinel]

shutting down

[wintry nymph]

[sick sentinel]

i am a robot. danger all humans

[cobalt seal]

This robot lies

He didnt shut down

Unlucky

[toxic pewter]

[short vale]

Got a question that might be stupid, with outburst proc in m+ - should I prio thunderclap for pure dam or just SS and why? 😮
couldn't find anywhere that explained this issue

[sweet summit]

SS mainly for pure dam

does big damage + generates at least 60 rage which is 3 revenges worth of rage (even more big dam)

[short vale]

It's not even worth for snap-threat cases early in a pull?

[sweet summit]

that's the only place worth considering using outburst on TC

[short vale]

(Just started playing my prot warr alt, used to my bdk snap-threat issues :p)
Ok I see, cool ty

[sweet summit]

usually don't have issues, revenge hits all mobs in a 180° arc infront of you

[wintry nymph]

wow its that big?

didn't know it was 180

damn

[sweet summit]

so unless there are mobs behind you (bad idea to have your back to mobs) revenge should do the job

there's also ravager, but that won't always hit all mobs, especially if you do multiple packs in one pull

[orchid frigate]

ugh gambit with bigwigs voice

[wintry nymph]

yesterday i had a bdk with me that took the mob that spawns the lotus aoe in DoS

Had to listen to that for the whole dungeon

[orchid frigate]

hahaha

[wintry nymph]

"watch your step"

about every 10 seconds

[orchid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/oof-ooooof-gif-12896777

tho i like bw voice most of the time. feels a lot easier for me to track audio notifications over graphical

heard that dbm got something similar now?

[blazing condor]

It does

Same shit

Its good ig but i dont like change

[meager quail]

You should embrace change, for a change

[mortal brook]

you guys and your user interfaces. ruins the immersion

[cobalt seal]

should remove all addons and WA's

[mortal brook]

and action cam to max

[blazing condor]

I just alt + z my game

Much prettier

[sick sentinel]

dying to 1 shot ability that is hard to see or requires WA to navigate does the same for me

[dawn canyon]

you do see the spells thats not the issue

[wintry nymph]

You just don't get screemed at that you shouldn't stand in it

[sick sentinel]

thus the glowing axe head on decapitor mob suggestion

[cobalt seal]

Turn on your eyes and ears

That is enough for 1 shots

[quartz hearth]

just zugzug

only vibes

[dawn canyon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/733892833492205688/852668911609708584/image0-3.gif

[sick sentinel]

i did a 15 for the week, i'll bother you guys again on tuesday when i get some 278 i don't like 🙂

as per usual, don't have to bug you guys no more

[meager quail]

You’re an AI, go hack the servers so you get a good vault

[sick sentinel]

artificial or antiquated intelligence

[meager quail]

Fuck that’s a scary thought. Yogi could be a nascent skynet

Is this how it starts and then all ends?

[dawn canyon]

if ai plays wow like that then we are safe from a robot invasion

[meager quail]

For now

Guys we gotta stop trying to help yogi

For the good good of mankind

That’s right, the good good

[dawn canyon]

he ignores the help anyways

[wintry nymph]

only 1 ?

[sick sentinel]

there is a place in japan called skynet doing AI robotics research is something i heard

supposedly is a real thing

[dawn canyon]

if u dont do 8 keys

[meager quail]

Hey, don’t diss the one key crew. I did one +7 on my warrior last week and got an upgrade!

[sick sentinel]

3 weeks till high ilvl cap and i already valored the shit out of most of the items i care about gettin lol

if anything, just valor keys now

[dawn canyon]

ye its just a bit tricky for me to get one nowadays

[wintry nymph]

if you do 1 15, just go for 3 more

4 is easy to get

[dawn canyon]

either directly from raid or luck

[wintry nymph]

if you don't want 10

[dawn canyon]

278 speed opc

[dawn canyon]

its 8 now

[wintry nymph]

oh really?

even better

[wintry nymph]

got a 1h 278 with speed yesterday

instead of the 226 weap i had

pretty huge

now 272 on prot

[dawn canyon]

im 277 but in dps gear

277.3 but that last .7 is gna slug

[wintry nymph]

damn

274 arms for me

[dawn canyon]

unless i just get raid drops

[sick sentinel]

had a 278 hammer of no haste, now have sword of haste, 278 as well shrug

only difference is im down like 100g for enchant and then back up 10k from dailies and i ned to use a sharpening stone instead of weightstone

[dawn canyon]

weightstones are the worst

good thing i dont have gavel

[sick sentinel]

15 pf, didn't taunt slime, bomb add went off, not even remotely close to warranting log upload

[dawn canyon]

ele healer

[wintry nymph]

wtf xd

[dawn canyon]

dude there is a chinese log

[wintry nymph]

i hope its bugged

[dawn canyon]

28 mists

1 tank 4 dps

ele healing

[sick sentinel]

it really was

[dawn canyon]

[wintry nymph]

really?

[dawn canyon]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YRjHZLc9NgMVwd1h#fight=5&type=damage-done

[wintry nymph]

i guess mists has a lot of dodgable damage

[dawn canyon]

rank 1 mists score for all of ele shamans

[wintry nymph]

damn

thats sick

actual chads

[dawn canyon]

i wanna do it on my ele but tank wont let me grief

[wintry nymph]

xd

[sick sentinel]

give shaman elemental the mega buff

[wintry nymph]

must have bdk for that probs

[sick sentinel]

i know at least one of guys in that key was a 3k

[dawn canyon]

yep

11k hps bdk 2k hps shamy

[dawn canyon]

ele is completely ok

[sick sentinel]

moar deathstrike

[dawn canyon]

only issue is u dont have dispell

so pf might be sussy

i wanna ele healer a halls

[wintry nymph]

what about adic rain on last boss

idk what is actually called

but thats kinda hard to do without proper healer

i think

[dawn canyon]

just phase boss

[strong forum]

Just dwarf it

[dawn canyon]

you need a ww monk and dworf

[urban portal]

dwarf/kyrian phial/dispells

[wintry nymph]

i guess

3rd boss SD

big ded

[sick sentinel]

HP, whatever, im a bit scared to lose 5 man stun

[wintry nymph]

all but last ded probs

[dawn canyon]

ele can heal big ye

vesper

insta cast chain heals

hst

ag

[sick sentinel]

its on such a tiny CD relative feels like too, maybe with RE and urh

[dawn canyon]

tauren isnt a make or break

[sick sentinel]

no, but that stun is invaluable same way the debuff removal is

[cobalt seal]

Also why is the pwar

Only doing 6k dmg

This isnt s2

[wintry nymph]

i mean

the dps aren't even hitting 10k

only 2 possibilities

either low geared

or low skilled

[dawn canyon]

he should be hitting 10k tho

[wintry nymph]

or both

[dawn canyon]

[wintry nymph]

probably both

whats yokis ilvl?

[dawn canyon]

270ish

[wintry nymph]

bruh

270

with 6k dps

[dawn canyon]

everyone and their mom can be 270 easily

[wintry nymph]

some healers do that

[dawn canyon]

even my alt ele is 270

only capped at 17k on it so far

[wintry nymph]

im learning arms m+ currently

actually like it a lot more than fury

but its not musclememory yet

so a bit rusty

[dawn canyon]

fury better

[wintry nymph]

less fun

[dawn canyon]

zug harder

[sweet summit]

fury good

arms poopy

[minor helm]

[chrome falcon]

true now and been true for 18 years

[blazing condor]

I liked arms in 9.1

[vernal vale]

I liked arms in cataclysm and wrath lol.

Slam with a cast time during ICC era

[sweet summit]

what

cast time on slam is horrible

stinky

[vernal vale]

I liked everything else about the rotation.

[sweet summit]

pressing MS and HC strike?

[strong forum]

When slam had a cast time it fucking shredded tho

[vernal vale]

Clipping your slam casts for autoswing was a fun talent to try and learn.

[strong forum]

Like actually chunked

[vernal vale]

Rend refresh so you never lost a tick of damage

[chrome falcon]

slam being a melee swing every 0.5 seconds is pretty juiced but it's not exactly

fun

[vernal vale]

Boy did it.

[chrome falcon]

also like

ICC why are you not just playing fury

and blending everything into a fine paste

[vernal vale]

I didn't like fury then

Plus I tanked then so it was my off spec I did for pugs

If arms still had good rage gain like cata and wrath I would possibly play it as my offspec now.

Just cannot stand how little rage it gets.

[blazing condor]

Arms stance dancing in cata

Was dope

[chrome falcon]

bring back stances in dragonflight

fuck it

do it you goddamn cowards

[blazing condor]

Dragon stance

[sand pebble]

Stance dancing for beserker rage

And pummel

[chrome falcon]

we don't have to go back to full restricted spells or anything

but lemme hop stance when i'm not tanking for big pump

[hazy edge]

Glad Stance

[chrome falcon]

gladge

[fathom robin]

I have a warrior alt thinking of swapping to for s4. I've been tanking for a bit on a paladin. Kinda wishing I was more mobile. I need advice if I should bother. I know both have strengths of weaknesses.

[chrome falcon]

might as well try it out and see how it feels

[cobalt seal]

oh no

[minor helm]

[sweet summit]

no

boomer take

hate stances

[waxen orbit]

Stances

Using GCDs on shifting is a feelsbad

[sweet summit]

stances were on a separate gcd no?

[waxen orbit]

Pretty sure they weren’t

Then again it’s been like 7 years since we’ve lost them

[sweet summit]

@boomeratur

[waxen orbit]

My memory could be fuzzy

[distant crystal]

i think they were kinda wonky separate

[chrome falcon]

stances were seperate gcd yes

[distant crystal]

stances wouldn't put other stuff on gcd

but other stuff would put stances on gcd

[waxen orbit]

Mbmb

[chrome falcon]

nope

stances were totally separate

[distant crystal]

nope

[chrome falcon]

well

they were in tbc

[sweet summit]

🤨

[chrome falcon]

because i am literally

doing it right now

[distant crystal]

maybe tbc, i'm talking cata

i didn't have a warrior in tbc 😮

[chrome falcon]

yeah i'm not saying we just hard port stances in their state where they were on GCD and nuked your rage bar to 0

[distant crystal]

there's probably a changelog somewhere we can find all this info instead of relying on our boomer memory :p

[sweet summit]

LOVE HAVING TO WASTE 3 TALWNT POINTS JUST TO BE ABLE TO KEEP 15 RAGE AFTER CHANGING STANCES

WOOOOOO

[chrome falcon]

25!

you already get to keep 10

aren't you lucky 🙂

[sweet summit]

same difference 😂

[chrome falcon]

but yeah the thing where it dumps your whole rage bar is obviously bad

[vernal vale]

Stance dancing separated the players into two categories. Amatures and gamers.

[sweet summit]

no...

[waxen orbit]

Aaaaabsolutely not

[vernal vale]

Shield wall in pvp as fury would save your life

[chrome falcon]

nah i didn't like the super hardcore stance dancing stuff

i don't want that back

[vernal vale]

Had to stance change and equip shield on macro

[chrome falcon]

yeah see i don't like that for modern wow

that's cringo

[sweet summit]

"pvp as fury"
was this real lore

[vernal vale]

With shadowmourne and byrntoll

Yeah

[sweet summit]

epic

[vernal vale]

In all honesty I wouldn't want stances back as they where.

[chrome falcon]

nah

[willow lantern]

If they bring back stance dance for warriors I'm deleting my 11 level 60's to go full ham on my Warrior

[vernal vale]

Took macros to really optimize and more often than not it was just to equip a shield so you could pop a defensive as arms or fury.

[toxic pewter]

Stances were removed for a reason they just suck

[sweet summit]

holy shit apb based?!?!?!?

[toxic pewter]

Give us something new to be honest

Something fresh

[vernal vale]

I would bet I still have those stance dance macros buried somewhere

[willow lantern]

I mean, druids sort of stance dance, but you don't see them removing shapeshifting

[chrome falcon]

they got rid of stances 10 years ago

bringing them back would be pretty fresh

[toxic pewter]

Stances played out

[chrome falcon]

true and smart

[vernal vale]

Stances went away in cataclysm if I remember right.

[toxic pewter]

If they brought them back off the gcd then maybe it could work better in modern wow

[vernal vale]

Games lacked them longer than it had them.

[chrome falcon]

mop i think

but yes still true

[waxen orbit]

Our fucking CPM is already hella high, please don’t toss switching stances into that

[toxic pewter]

Modern wow we go too fast for stances to be honest

Exactly

We go so fast who had time to stance dance

[sweet summit]

you know

come df

we lose

like half our apm

cos borrowed power

yea?

[willow lantern]

They could give stance dance to one spec, and leave the other spec as is. Let people choose whether they want to stance dance or not

[chrome falcon]

apm's cousins dad told me they're removing IP in dragonflight and giving us an actually good ability

[toxic pewter]

Yah prob true

[waxen orbit]

Maybe we’ll keep the outburst mechanic and banner

[vernal vale]

Always a massive slowdown on cpm at the start of expac

[chrome falcon]

so our cpm is gonna be normal again

i straight up don't want banner in dragonflight i think

[toxic pewter]

We still gonna be fast

[chrome falcon]

i'm bored of playing the uptime game tbh

[waxen orbit]

I dig banner tbh

[sweet summit]

keeping banner is cringe unless they also give us glory but that would be too strong

[chrome falcon]

i played glory banner for all of 9.1 too

so i'm just bored of mindlessly spamming all my rage

[toxic pewter]

It’s possible the necro playstyle continues into df

[vernal vale]

Without glory banner doesn't have the same impact

[chrome falcon]

i wouldn't mind having some more interesting options for what to spend it on

[waxen orbit]

Yea Glory is honestly the only thing that makes banner fun

[chrome falcon]

instead of just brrrrrrrrrrrrrt

[willow lantern]

Seeing how Druids get to keep Convoke via talents, and Priests get to keep Mind Games - what covenant ability do you reckon Warriors will get? Banner seem like a safe bet tbh

[sweet summit]

spear

[toxic pewter]

It’s possible glory banner remains as a possible build

[chrome falcon]

spear for easily

[waxen orbit]

Make IP an actual defensive pls n ty

[distant crystal]

yeah i think spear

[chrome falcon]

every spec played spear at some point

[distant crystal]

the cov abilities go in the class tree right

not spec tree

[chrome falcon]

nope

[toxic pewter]

Either one actually

[chrome falcon]

either or

[distant crystal]

ohh

[chrome falcon]

mindgames is in class tree

[distant crystal]

so maybe they give prot banner

[chrome falcon]

convoke is in spec trees

[waxen orbit]

I can see us getting Condemn too tbh

Not like we’d actually use it

[distant crystal]

i could see condemn for arms

[waxen orbit]

But I can see us keeping that

[sand pebble]

i liked condem for tanking

[distant crystal]

spear for fury

banner for prot

[sweet summit]

condemn
:ikhant:

[waxen orbit]

No please

Please

Take this back

I’m begging you on my hands and knees

[toxic pewter]

I feel like spear while used extensively will go away. People are tired of the bounce back mechanic. We may actually see banner. banners just feel very warrior to me

[sand pebble]

i liked condem for raid tanking*

[sweet summit]

banners are not epic

[waxen orbit]

[vernal vale]

Condemn blah for prot

[toxic pewter]

Blizzard thinks warriors love banners

[sweet summit]

only redeeming factor about necro banner is the fact that it's blt a real banner

lol

[waxen orbit]

Condemn is straight up nerfing your own spec frfr

[toxic pewter]

I won’t lie I do enjoy a nice banner

Something about slamming down a banner feels warrior

We are the banner class

[sweet summit]

well

[dawn canyon]

Condemn and necro would be fun

[toxic pewter]

Through and through

[sweet summit]

guess we have differing opinions on what's warrior

however

[dawn canyon]

We had zero pve banners before necro

[waxen orbit]

This combo would be acceptable

[dawn canyon]

So idk man

[sweet summit]

my opinion > your opinion

[toxic pewter]

That’s our new niche, banners

In df

[sweet summit]

cap

[toxic pewter]

Gonna have many banners sort of like totems

But stay on you

[dawn canyon]

Apb when alpha

[chrome falcon]

someone make my name yellow so my opinion means more than everyone elses too i think this would be a good move

[sweet summit]

[dawn canyon]

[toxic pewter]

After season 4 starts. Meanwhile df release date will be pushed to quarter 1 2023. The 2022 release date was a marketing gimmick.

[chrome falcon]

give warrior 5 different stances and 6 flags

also

[dawn canyon]

Make me yellow so it matches my pfp

[chrome falcon]

if we do get banner in dragonflight

[dawn canyon]

Checkmate

[waxen orbit]

Me too

[chrome falcon]

if blizz doesn't have an option for the flag to be our guild flag

i'm quitting

[willow lantern]

Warriors be like

[dawn canyon]

Flag of ownership

[sweet summit]

if we get many banner i quit

bye bye

[waxen orbit]

My IO e-peen is large pls notice me

[waxen orbit]

1 tops

[vernal vale]

Banner as guild flag would be funny

[toxic pewter]

Warriors getting banners sort of like auras but less range. Gonna have various banners for various situations.

[chrome falcon]

make banners a new and unique warrior only weapon

like warglaives

[toxic pewter]

They’re not stances either

[chrome falcon]

or like librams

[toxic pewter]

No

They banners

[vernal vale]

That could be funny

[sand pebble]

do we get to keep soulshape or am i wasting my time farming them

[toxic pewter]

No

[vernal vale]

Slap a guy with a flag

[toxic pewter]

They goin away

[dawn canyon]

librams but its all insults aka rage generating words

[willow lantern]

That'd be cool, but I'd want them to update the guild crests for the first time since 2004 before they do that tbh

[sand pebble]

i want a soulshape in the form of a banner

[toxic pewter]

A man can dream

[chrome falcon]

huh that's actually a good question

i guess all those soulshape forms are just deleted content?

maybe you still get to use covenant signature abilities in shadowlands zones

[urban portal]

Probably would make sense

[waxen orbit]

Yeah but who the fuck would stay in SL

[willow lantern]

Just like our weapon artifacts

[urban portal]

Why would I wanna come back tho

[toxic pewter]

Soulshape going away. Just as shadowlands will go away and be forgotten to history, never to return to our memory.

[meager quail]

I’m hoping they at least make them all options for shaman ghost wolf. Such a waste otherwise.

[chrome falcon]

well we still have the artifacts as mogs

[waxen orbit]

Soulshape should still be usable outside instance content

[toxic pewter]

I actually plan to keep oribos as my main city

[sand pebble]

id be ok with soulshape as an out of combat city ability

[waxen orbit]

Literally no reason this shouldn’t be the case

[hazy edge]

My guess is you might be able to use the cov abilities while in the shadowlands and under that cov. So you could still use soulshape and stuff while in SL

[toxic pewter]

Soulshape is going away and for good reason. Let it go.

Quicker you come to peace with this

The quicker you heal

[chrome falcon]

yeah asa i assume that too

[willow lantern]

Gonna need a lot of healing after Shadowlands tbh

[toxic pewter]

Yes

[waxen orbit]

Safe to say ping-pong Reprisal is getting baked into our kit yeah?

[chrome falcon]

like, emotional healing? yeah same

no

shut up

[toxic pewter]

Reprisal going away.

[waxen orbit]

I don’t want it to stay either

[toxic pewter]

Prot warr actually getting one of the few “reworks” of specs

[waxen orbit]

But Blizz doesn’t know how to make our spec work

[toxic pewter]

It’s going to play a lot diff

[hazy edge]

Going from SL to DF is gunna feel weird. There is soooooo much changing with the systems that the power loss might not even be noticeable

[cobalt seal]

apb back to trolling?

[waxen orbit]

[toxic pewter]

Wtf how am I trolling

[dawn canyon]

never stopped

[meager quail]

If they’re going to keep reprisal it should be on a choice node with heavy repercussions imo

[vernal vale]

Soulshape going away just feels bad for farming old transmogs

[sand pebble]

i like this

[dawn canyon]

dude every warlock will die so much

[meager quail]

That’s what crafted speed sets are for

[waxen orbit]

Bake in AM as a passive

[dawn canyon]

no pod no soulshape