#protection
wintry nymph
same for raids as prot
jagged pier
i can link chat logs as well
sick sentinel
.
jagged pier
because that is correct for prot
drifting fable
damn this is just pointless ngl
wintry nymph
it is
jagged pier
i was clarifying we were in the protection channel
wintry nymph
stubborn as f***
oblique garnet
jagged pier
all the time
sick sentinel
. Thank you phil
wintry nymph
Devourer of Kebab coming to the rescue
blazing condor
rare duck
oblique garnet
shiny
dawn canyon
he makes for a less cute pfp though 
dawn canyon
wintry nymph
https://tenor.com/view/blue-psyduck-happy-pokemon-gif-15549357
this gif seems like a perfect pfp
u have nitro?
oblique garnet
Another 6 years to go and i can change pfp again 
wintry nymph
or nah
sick sentinel
Just poking light hearted fun. Thank you for the info @jagged pier ♥️
dawn canyon
this gif seems like a perfect pfp
nop not paying those rats
dawn canyon
no need im very happy with the default
wintry nymph
aight aight
blazing condor
based pokemon profile pictures are the mystery dungeon ones
i used to do that for a while
sick sentinel
pokemon yellow on pikachu gameboy color pocket
wintry nymph
mystery dungeon owns
facts
sick sentinel
only requires 2, what is it, double or triple A batteries
wintry nymph
Ruby forever bae
oblique garnet
Theres no way you ran out of batteries in a day
jagged pier
i still have the same batteries i had in my gameboy 10 years ago
and they still have tones of charge
and i play on it alot
sick sentinel
well, okay, someone close to me gave me a pack 16 energizer max and this was when i had the pokemon gameboy
12 or 16 of them, lasted for 2-3 months
oblique garnet
My TV remote still has the same batteries from 15 years ago 
blazing condor
i have an alarm clock ive had since i was like 9
think ive changed batteries like one time max
sick sentinel
they are like health potions for me
i've used.... a billion.... google claims 10-20 hours for GBC life, theroretical 40 hours for a normal gameboy on premium batteries lithium
strong forum
Mystery dungeon on my Gameboy, now that's a throwback
toxic pewter
gameboy zelda's ftw
toxic pewter
if you ever get a chance, Links Awakening so good
toxic pewter
also I enjoy the Oracle of Seasons or Oracle of Ages... those both own so hard as well
sick sentinel
VERY VERY addicting
urban portal
Apb where is alpha
sick sentinel
when it just is so tiny and fits in your pocket tiny
sick sentinel
i don't want there to be an open or even really closed alpha
i just want them to have a like half closed beta, some people can get in
strong forum
I just want there to be an nda until actual launch
No datamining no nothing
Just blindly be able to enjoy the xpac launch when it launches
Without knowing every nook and cranny
sick sentinel
thats extremely hopeful, but i can respect it
urban portal
Ngl
I was very impressed that there was no huge bugs for last 3 this tier
Outside of the jailer bug
sick sentinel
i mean, ffs, its DRAGONS
what do we have to be surprised about with dragons....
we know who they all are and what they can do, this is established lore
minor helm
Who cares about the dragons we get rock guys
strong forum
Rock guy is bis
sick sentinel
oh, the thing from fantastic 4?
i think thats his name rock man from cutscene
yeah, golem, he's a golem, rock golem
wild hemlock
My TV remote still has the same batteries from 15 years ago <a:keksquad:76669059...
cause we play wow... who ever touches the tv
jagged pier
theres a guy that plays on a 50 tv in my guild
sick sentinel
cause we play wow... who ever touches the tv
literally me
buy a (not so good) 4k smart tv cuz reasons like, 2-3 months ago
turned it on like, 3 times
hollow sun
theres a guy that plays on a 50 tv in my guild
Damn, I tried but it actually gives me something similar to motion sickness
strong forum
I played for a few days on a 40"
But it was back in 2012 so the resolution on it was quite ass
mellow patio
I’m gone for 5 minutes and they promote nome
sick sentinel
for reference, a 1080p tv should be around 30-40 inch and 4k should be 55-70
if like, your sitting on a couch watching movie or somethin
cinder storm
I miss my Tamagotchi
sick sentinel
I use to play world of tanks on xbox, that game and alot of xbox games are good big screen, wow might be good on a tv, if they are doing the UI all over again
strong forum
I’m gone for 5 minutes and they promote nome
More like 5 months
urban portal
the biggest problem is ground target spells
though smite got really good at it
so who knows
chrome falcon
Just blindly be able to enjoy the xpac launch when it launches
this is what kinda turned me off keys after legion
in SL there were already fucking MDT routes
on day 1 of the expansion
blazing condor
inevitable
chrome falcon
no discovering or figuring anything out because the strimmers and MDI players already been grinding and pushing for like 3 months
blazing condor
easy fix = just let nnoggie be lazy
chrome falcon
i don't, my guildies and the other people in my groups do
i just prefer it when no-one knows wtf is going on
dawn canyon
aka every other pug key
blazing condor
every
difference is that in every other, you got at least one dude who thinks he knows wtf is going on
blazing condor
278 sack when
orchid frigate
blazing condor
nah but gj 🙂
orchid frigate
the mastery on the sack is pointless or?
blazing condor
ye kinda
orchid frigate
too bad
vernal vale
the mastery on the sack is pointless or?
Sadly it's still a fantastic damage trinket.
strong forum
i just prefer it when no-one knows wtf is going on
I involuntarily just see what's happening cuz I'm interested in the m+ streams :(
chrome falcon
blazing condor
watch on 360p
strong forum
ya i noticed
dawn canyon
Prot pve implies prot pvp you demon
toxic pewter
Apb where is alpha
So, it turns out alpha not actually starting until after season 4 starts
I know, bad news
DF also being delayed to quarter 1 2023
the 2022 release date was effectively a marketing/sales tactic
dawn canyon
minor helm
dawn canyon
he dies too fast, cant execute enough
For pwar parse u gotta figure out how to extend p3/4
shut summit
ya can see people doin shit like that
narrow fog
he dies too fast, cant execute enough
grave crane
big boy executes
strong forum
pwar actually indirectly nerfed on jailer cuz of shorter execute window
unironically
minor helm
stark sage
urban portal
at least neither wars need execute
prot war does more than both DPS wars in execute
minor helm
wild hemlock
distant crystal
is the execute window a smaller portion of the fight now
dawn canyon
just killed it <:okayge:917646812519739433>
ez gz
chrome falcon
ty ty
i got as many executes as charges 
only got rank 6
but like
it's impossible to beat pre-nerf parses now
green forge
what are the best trinkets for doing damage in m+ as a pwar?
green forge
that's what I was thinking, thanks
chrome falcon
ty ty
chrome falcon
kinda disappointed we didn't get to do the real version of the boss
but also fuck this expansion, fuck this tier, and fuck that boss
sweet summit
based
shut summit
funny how p3 and p4 just dont exist now
sweet summit
very epic just deliberately phasing p2 early
chrome falcon
we didn't do that
you need mondo damage for that
or some kind of speed strat
we killed it in 8:09
i think you can kill that boss in like 6:30 if you're god gamers and do a weird strat
sweet summit
yeah 6.30 is very doable
blazing condor
guys can we kill it in 6:30 i got bedtime
sweet summit
gn
blazing condor
n
wild hemlock
@chrome falcon aye grats dude
wild hemlock
ive only gotten CE once lol
strong forum
the 1 item you can get from janitor
grats tho
i guess pants aswell to turn into tier
minor helm
dawn canyon
excellent content thank you
chrome falcon
now set ur loot spec to arms for future kills to piss off dps players (like me)
one of our DKs has killed HC jailer every week (including 3 weeks with 7 traders) and had at least 1 HC slot every week
and still has no mace
🙂
sweet summit
skill issue
modern brook
Agrid
blazing condor
why doesnt he just get it
strong forum
a few weeks ago it was a heroic item
and i just went fury for the lulz
cuz theres nothing i could get from heroic raid other than tmog weapons
dawn canyon
nome can u give mr urs
strong forum
sure i dont need gavel
dawn canyon
i should sim how big it is for me
sick sentinel
ughh timewalking.... blargh
dawn canyon
ye i have 272 OH so i wanna see
strong forum
totally balanced weapon
dawn canyon
i barely hit 15k without so with it and then ows/sigil i might just hit 16
chrome falcon
272 gavel is like 900 dps ahead of 278 regular weapon
lfr gavel is like 300dps ahead of mythic jaithys
minor helm
doesnt fury and arms go kyrian
Nf sims highest
dawn canyon
venty dont count
minor helm
Ok venth for fury w/e Cring cov
lusty tiger
Any new trinkets to farm for s4?
chrome falcon
no new ones
lusty tiger
So what should I be running? Sack and solea?
chrome falcon
no
run the SOD trinkets
aegis and ows
if you're gonna do 0 raiding then sack soleah
sick sentinel
thats assuming you can get soleah
AFE is a decent replacement for soleah i'd imagine
cinder storm
if you cant get soleah then you dont run that many keys
I see it drop every other run
lusty tiger
Yea wtf
minor helm
thats assuming you can get soleah
Soleahs is in taz which is in the rotation
lusty tiger
I got mine on conquest loot chest for the war lol
minor helm
We know all the trinkets that are out
sick sentinel
it doesn't want to drop for me lol
minor helm
Skill issue
sick sentinel
and i lost the roll when it did
chrome falcon
How much worse is the m+ combo?
quite a lot worse, OWS and aegis are both absurd trinkets
chrome falcon
you don't necessarily need to do SOD for them
lusty tiger
?
lusty tiger
Ahh yeah
cinder storm
you probably wont need to kill more than 6 bosses or 3 even, dunno how it works, but even if you dont clear every week, eventually you will have enough tokens
lusty tiger
So for now just casually farm sack until s4 is my best bet?
cinder storm
Well, the season is almost over, farm whatever you want for now
chrome falcon
you probably wont need to kill more than 6 bosses or 3 even, dunno how it works,...
you get a token after killing 30 bosses, then 20, then 10
sick sentinel
friggin tyranical storming sanguine PF, bleeehhh
sick sentinel
is it, he only turns for one of the 2 abilities i think? I'm thinking he turns at someone to do a stomp, and they have to run through
and theres a wave, that does a bunch of nature damage, but i'm not sure precisely how it work
chrome falcon
you spell reflect the wave
sick sentinel
pika's video, he has the boss against a large wall and that's gunna restrict the play size, so i don't want to screw that part up
blazing condor
just do it normally
youre doing like 15s
you will do more damage trying to strat it out than just holding W
cinder storm
yogi, people are your level suffer more from higher pulls than just holding W
sick sentinel
this is what i got going on for this week
minor helm
You’ll see a noticeable increase in finished keys if you held W
cinder storm
like, that invis skip is fine and expected for the most part, but, do you know how to skip that first section without using invis pot?
if something goes wrong, pugs will simply leave "ggs"
sick sentinel
it's very annoying for me to do, but i believe so
blazing condor
you will have to beat the 2nd boss before the spawn location changes
its high risk no reward on a 15
not that people don't know how to do it
but just not worth it
carmine pine
Love a good hold W run
cinder storm
pull the giant and when the giant is like half hp link the other 3 and just hold W
also, pika's dps and heals can carry you up to a 22
sick sentinel
i don't wanna be the very best like no-one ever was
blazing condor
so play normally
sick sentinel
but i wouldn't mind being okay
blazing condor
youre always overcomplicating things to try and compensate
and i swear it aint helping you
chrome falcon
yeah sorry to say it yogi
but it's really not complicated
it's not your routes
you just need to play the class better
timing a key is like
20% route
dawn canyon
hold W
chrome falcon
80% playing the fucking game
at a decent level
i'm pretty sure i could kill literally every mob and boss in an instance faster than you could do a perfect optimal route
focus on what matters
cinder storm
also, pull in a way that is safe until you get bored of playing safe
sick sentinel
so you say, no skips route or skips both hold w
cinder storm
right, because you dont need to
chrome falcon
yogi
i'm telling you
every single second you spend
thinking about your route
should be spent on a dummy
learning to play the class
it would help you out 100x
cinder storm
no tank class in wow is hard to master
if you can time 20s with a class you can safely do so with another even if you've only been playing it for weeks
so yeah, you gotta practice, season is almost upon us, many here have been waiting on your first 20
and its darn time you do one specially this week, its a free week
chrome falcon
last thing i'm gonna say on this subject
i got keystone hero in the second week of the patch
and i don't have MDT installed
lofty widget
log yourself on the dummy for an hour or 2, post it here, read and understand feedback, go back to dummy and apply feedback
sick sentinel
when i can remove the gyrphons from my bars (currently horde flying beast equivilant, will be when dorf once again) i'll go back to more or less basic UI
cinder storm
23s are a snoozefest for me, 24s dps keep making stupid mistakes, and on 24s 25s people beg me to just W routes, not dorki level pulls
cinder storm
yogi has the logic, he sometimes writes things that you'd expect nome to say
sick sentinel
i need to increase the size of the buttons for boomervision TM and then it makes the bird things huge
so, to get rid of that is either elv/tuk or like a combination of 3 other addons
lofty widget
when i can remove the gyrphons from my bars (currently horde flying beast equivi...
/run MainMenuBarLeftEndCap:Hide(); MainMenuBarRightEndCap:Hide()
to remove gryphons
cinder storm
or, play without addons, only littlewigs and a on screen warrior weak aura, run with the classic ui
you dont need that much information
sick sentinel
interesting, theres not a i can set that option to 0 eh?
cinder storm
not at that level
sick sentinel
is this like a 1 time thing every time i log in i do it?
minor helm
Just turn off blizzard art or whatever it’s called
sick sentinel
cuz if i make the buttons 2 times the size, the birbs are 2 times the size also
i'll try that thing
dawn canyon
or just make a weakaura for the buttons and then hide bars
psure u can just copy nomes entire ui
lofty widget
yup it's on wago
cinder storm
I'll tell you what, delete everything, play with classic ui, and have an aura with just avatar, shield block, shield wall on top of your character
wow, theres no shield wall emote
sick sentinel
thats zero addons running
dawn canyon
then leave the gryphons up
urban portal
When I first started tanking
I played default ui following hekili
And held w
Don’t think too much about it
sick sentinel
i kinda almost wish that like, if you had a totally default UI you had a tiny wow icon in the top corner,
blazing condor
i played normal ui and no WAs up until 8.3 lol
sick sentinel
like if you have no addons at all installed, and then everyone who see's that scren shot knows this player didn't need any addons to do this content
minor helm
But you do need it
sick sentinel
if you have addons installed and enabled the icon goes away
minor helm
You just don’t have it
urban portal
What’s going on here anyways
dawn canyon
like if you have no addons at all installed, and then everyone who see's that sc...
id not invite u to gambit with that icon
urban portal
I got a haircut
dawn canyon
tbh
scenic mural
no one would care yogi. on top of that you have a WA for literally everything lol
minor helm
No one would game with you cause you’d be showing off that you’re trolling
minor helm
Or that you are brand new to the game
urban portal
Asian hair is op
modern brook
Rip
sick sentinel
id not invite u to gambit with that icon
the number of players who have the icon would vastly out number those who don't have it
modern brook
It'll grow in tho that's pog
scenic mural
yeah bc the amount of bad players vastly outnumbers the half decent ones
urban portal
Anyways back to watching vtubers
waxen orbit
Playing without addons is like shaving with a dull blade you found laying around in your garage.
Impressive I guess? But you’ll probably knick yourself and cause some damage for no reason other than saying you did it.
TL;DR, just use a regular fucking razor.
modern brook
Jokes on u I don't even have a garage
sick sentinel
yeah, and if you see a player with that icon that is playing well, it's like.... i want to group with that guy again
he really knows his shit
and his game wont fuck up cuz of addons
minor helm
No it doesn’t
waxen orbit
If someone isn’t playing with addons they absolutely do not know their shit
minor helm
I wouldn’t game with them in the first place
scenic mural
the arguement just sounds strange coming from someone that uses WAs for shit like quaking
chrome falcon
you cannot kill m jailer addonless as a dps
i bet you could do it as a tank
i might try that next week
minor helm
And also yogi
dawn canyon
thus the "as dps"
lofty widget
do you stream matta?
dawn canyon
mainly p1 bombs
sick sentinel
some guild leaders might start to enforce that you have no addons in case like that, and then its easy way for them to check entire raid quickly
minor helm
You play with no addons and don’t pump
chrome falcon
no i want to in dragonflight though chimmi
scenic mural
the whole guild would be troll
sick sentinel
if nobodies got addons, everyones seeing same shit on screen
chrome falcon
but my internet is actually dog mode
dawn canyon
mans honest
chrome falcon
i literally have to ask my family to please never use the internet during my raid times
chrome falcon
it was a very embarrassing conversation to have with them
if they even watch netflix i have 400 ms and can't play
dawn canyon
hey kids no netflix
chrome falcon
dawn canyon
dads killing the jailer
sick sentinel
i literally have to ask my family to please never use the internet during my rai...
learn to router setting QOS
chrome falcon
UK life
sick sentinel
set them to some reasonable amount of bandwidth per device like 5mbps, then they can watch videos and not suck up your entire bandwidth, rendering you vulnerable during a raid
chrome falcon
vernal vale
i bet you could do it as a tank
I've played addonless off and on over the years when I get bored. Just takes knowing audio ques and movement very well. The blizzard ui tells you buffs and debuffs its just horribly organized.
waxen orbit
opinion of matt irreversably ruined
Nah it’s okay 4th of July is over we can go back to not hating the brits
dawn canyon
i remember our lan being so shit i played on data for a raid night
chrome falcon
i would do that phil
sick sentinel
i remember our lan being so shit i played on data for a raid night
call up your ISP, tell em "shit's broke"
chrome falcon
but i literally do not get signal
sick sentinel
they will fix it
dawn canyon
we have one of those extender thingies since the walls are too thicc
sick sentinel
they are a pain in the ass, but they are good in a pinch
vernal vale
i have to walk 100 yards down the street to a park
My small town has shit internet for most people. I'm luckily close enough to downtown nowhere that I have fibre
Town of like 800 people.
Logging and farming community.
sick sentinel
yep, i know all about it
chrome falcon
yeah i live in basically a retirement village
and it's just terrible tech infrastructure
vernal vale
I know people that live in cities and get 4 times my internet speed.
chrome falcon
yeah dame all my raid team are scandi and like
every time i lag spike or smth
or have to download a new patch
they remind me that they literally have 5-10x my internet speed
sick sentinel
it is what it is
vernal vale
Before I got access to the Fibre internet when they ran it through downtown for the buisnesses I got 10mgbs
sick sentinel
best not to get mad, long as your still alive and able to walk and talk, your still in the game.
sick sentinel
were all playing the game and you all just lost cuz you remembered you were playing
modern brook
Haha yogis old
dawn canyon
no you lost since by bringing it up u lost
ocean yoke
no you lost since by bringing it up u lost
damn you its been years
dawn canyon
jokes on u im just stupid
sick sentinel
i'm more stupider
urban portal
what icon are yall talking about
urban portal
so true
sick sentinel
well, what addons are zero comprise on
you HAVE to have this addon or you cannot join raid period if you start to cause problems
cinder storm
bigwigs/littlebigwigs
mighty valley
you can live a no addons life definitely through heroic
urban portal
nah
dbm tells me when to taunt
why would i look at my cotanks debuffs
thats cringe
mighty valley
i mean i use dbm but i still scan debuff stacks to prep
waxen orbit
I could probably legitimately train a chimpanzee to tank up to the first 5 mythic bosses
urban portal
didnt we say to stop posting vids
cinder storm
I could probably legitimately train a chimpanzee to tank up to the first 5 mythi...
pff, I can train a fish to do the first 6
sick sentinel
didnt we say to stop posting vids
i'll refrain from the completely off topic videos entirely yes, this is extremely related
i have zero doubt in my mind you could train 5 chimps to run a +15 or +20 key if they could be taught how to do it
urban portal
the first step is to train you
scenic mural
chrome falcon
spec representation on jailer
is fucking hilarious
me and my ret both got rank 6
i was mid blue
he was high orange
lofty widget
gotta pump those numbers up!
chrome falcon
hey man
get me a first sigil that isn't 252
and we'll see what happens
i can drop scale for next kill which is good to know
pretty happy with 87% banner uptime
chrome falcon
if you watch senses' kills you'll kinda see why
there's a forced banner drop in p2
you go to other side of room for a shatter then you're zone by beyblades for like 10 seconds
idk where my other banner drop came from though
15% more banner uptime than sense but 600 less dps
shut summit
yea p2 drop and i drop mine in p3 cuz handholding
chrome falcon
need to stop wearing pussy trinkets next week
shut summit
should prolly only really drop in p2 at all
chrome falcon
yeah at this point you can probably have discord crash in p3 and still kill boss so
just gonna focus on the pump from now on
shut summit
yup
1shot it after changes, was expecting at least 1-2 wipes but shit is such a joke now
chrome falcon
yeah took us like 2 pulls to go from never seeing p3 to a 20% wipe to missed heal
then a kill like an hour later which could have been a pull later
whack boss
shut summit
(im all for the nerfs, dont get me twisted some like whack takes other people have)
chrome falcon
yeah ideally the boss would never have been that hard in the first place
but at this point those nerfs were basically the only option to make it reasonable to get 1k+ kills by s4
shut summit
yep
chrome falcon
like we're not an insane guild or anything but we've been rank 500-700 for the last 3 expansions (few exceptions where we took breaks) and i don't know if we can kill that boss pre-nerf in the next 3 weeks or whenever s4 is
shut summit
woulda been fine if the rest of the tier wasnt as crazy
was just too much crammed into same instance
chrome falcon
sepulcher almost owned
rygelon is a 9/10 boss
anduin 9/10
remove halondrus
and put lords/rygo before anduin
and this raid is a banger
vernal vale
Better than sanctum that's for sure
sick sentinel
says i did a 92 parse on LFR rygelon with 9158 dps (arms, tank LFR, nope lol)
ocean yoke
guardian, fate, and KT being huge stinkers hurt sanctum, i thought the first half was really good
mighty valley
halondrus is so good except the mythic mechanic was like a RWF final boss level mechanic
overall think sanctum is pretty great overall design wise and works well for the majority of raiders, just missed it balance wise
fathom stag
new prot warrior. Do I bother paying attention to my 4-set bonus at all, or do I just focus on dumping rage / doing good rotation?
chrome falcon
4 set is very important to gameplay
it's easy to fuck up and waste a proc by using avatar when you already ahve outburst
and on single target, using outburst on TC is a total waste
(and it's not great on aoe either)
grand glacier
rotation > 4-set until you know what you are doing. once you have the basics down you can look to max the 4 pice usage. Since we dont know about tierstets for 10.0
chrome falcon
yeah sure i mean get your rotation down first
but definitely get the outburst WA in the pins
vernal vale
speaking of not wasting outbursts by hitting avatar i'm terrible at that and need to work on being better
fathom stag
Sounds good. I'll get those WAs. Sounds like as long as I'm shield slamming with outburst, then I'm okay. There just seems like a lot to track already disregarding 4-set, trying to spend my charge/intervene/shield block charges etc without capping rage.
vernal vale
spam 
and ignore pain to dump rage
chrome falcon
yeah it wasn't so bad if you played prot the whole expansion
where this stuff added up after each patch
but learning it all at once sounds hard
vernal vale
do remember just because of the speed at which we play and its better to hit something than wait for shield slam some outbursts to to TC even though we would rather they didn't
mighty valley
i'm interested to see what blocking looks like next patch
vernal vale
but learning it all at once sounds hard
true its a lot all at once
dawn canyon
yeah it wasn't so bad if you played prot the whole expansion
It's like playing a piece of music at it's original pace without having played it slowly while learning it
mighty valley
they've spoiled us by giving us near 100% block uptime but i doubt that will continue into 10.0
sonic crag
If they make IP a viable damage reduction, less shield block would be okay
sick sentinel
oh right, if you are marilieth necrolord, don't forget to make use of ultimate form this week,
you see a tornadoe for sure gunna hit u, u can start flesh craft an for 5 or so seconds if it finishes, you got: you don't get cc'd
works on urh stuns and a bunch of other stuff i can't remember all of it, but like, tons of abilities
sick sentinel
basically im trying to use it at the start of bosses fights and any time there is relic packs
chrome falcon
why are you trying to use FC at the start of boss fights
sick sentinel
say its a boss that requires don't move the boss a whole lot phase 1 so dps can kill it, like first boss NW
i've noticed if you can let him sit there he just dies quicker
and then using FC at first urh if it won't move boss
urban portal
Why not just walk out of urh
sick sentinel
20% dr and you can still block, more like, if its on me and i have it
vernal vale
basically im trying to use it at the start of bosses fights and any time there i...
flesh craft wastes time man
minor helm
Yogis not playing the same game
chrome falcon
just so you don't have to take?
minor helm
Or reading anything anyone writes
chrome falcon
yogi's problem is that he comes up with an idea
urban portal
Yogi is playing 15 like it’s a 30
chrome falcon
that makes emotional sense to him
and then refuses to listen to objective logical reason for why he's wrong
urban portal
He’s making optimizations that naowh wouldn’t make
chrome falcon
from people who actually know shit
minor helm
His brain comes up with an idea and he treats it like it’s reality in game
vernal vale
only time to fleshcraft not at the very start is if your waiting for people because they died or Plaguefall for ooze benefit
and i never wait for people when they died
i can survive a few seconds while the healer rezzes without heals
chrome falcon
sure
it doesn't
but it's still wrong to use it on the pull on a boss
or tank an urh on purpose with it
chrome falcon
don't tempt me
vernal vale
3 seconds of not hitting buttons feels bad
urban portal
It is
vernal vale
gotta go faster
vernal vale
if your still around @chrome falcon i finally wound up tanking jailer and died twice think some of it is missed blocks on corrupted strike
but i still felt nuked
anything more i could be doing
gravitational collapse was also not being topped off
chrome falcon
missed 3 blocks on corrupted strike
you didn't SR a corrupted strike until 2:!5
banner uptime should be comfortably 100% on rygelon
nothing stopping you from charge resetting
used aegis twice in a 5:30 attempt, could have got an extra use of that
vernal vale
yeah, i forgot it was magic damage as well for the spell reflect
chrome falcon
0 fleshcraft casts also
rygo is one of the few fights where fleshcraft kinda owns
really good for soaking in the downstairs phases
cpms look fine and your blocked hits were mostly good but you really don't want to let a single corrupted strike hit you without block up
if that happened to me i would instantly call for an external bc you're about to get owned
vernal vale
ah, yeah that definitely would have helped me to fleshcraft my soaks
chrome falcon
your aegis timings were really bad
aegis literally mitigated one tick
of corrupted strikes
which is the thing that kills you
you want to aegis just before strikes hits you
so you mitigate the base hit and the dot
vernal vale
i was attempting to use aegis for the soak like a dummy
cobalt seal
aegis is not a soak trinket
chrome falcon
it's for dots
cobalt seal
if you want a soak trinket
chrome falcon
which is why it's so nuts on rygo
cobalt seal
use scale
vernal vale
aegis is trash at reducing big hits
first pull of the night and was just playing bad lol
chrome falcon
yeah i was just about to say if you hadn't actually tanked rygo before
vernal vale
also hadn't technically tanked it before a couple pulls last night
chrome falcon
then w/e lol you learn the timings for next time
vernal vale
so i've had 3 total tank pulls on the fight
chrome falcon
shit hits hard
on mythic i basically used aegis, fleshcraft and SW on cooldown
banger fight first time i felt tested as a tank since denathrius
chrome falcon
it's the only fight where timing IP properly is actually relevant
if you block+SR+double IP the corrupted strikes
it does literally nothing
(not actually literally nothing)
(figuratively literally nothing)
vernal vale
good to know
hazy edge
Ryg is the best fight of the xpac tank wise imo.
chrome falcon
yeah i agree
denathrius just auto'd way too fucking hard
and sylvanas' tank mechanic was legitimately the worst tank mechanic i've ever seen
hazy edge
Sylv's tank mech was absolute shit
I hated that if you spent like 2 seconds out of her melee range you could just get an extra
chrome falcon
every pull she would do it at a different time and change all her timings
it was so fiddly
staring at her buff bar
hazy edge
It was awful
chrome falcon
then she gets 3 stacks
and just doesn't cast it
so then when she's finished her other mechanic she would double cast it
me and my co-tank started calling those weird timing bugs "thing 1" or "thing 2"
i remember "thing 3" at like 7 mins in would be a real killer
hazy edge
I made a WA that glowed bright as fuck when she was at 3 stacks, then screamed at me when the cast started. It helped a bit, but god it sucked
chrome falcon
it was also the fight that made me miss perma-spell reflect
hazy edge
The one in p2 after first burn phase sucked ass
chrome falcon
more than anything
yeah
she would sometimes cast it while you were 50 yards away
getting ready for next bridge
super fun
hazy edge
I held aegis for that one every time just in case
and used it on the bridge if she didn't do it
but god it sucked
hazy edge
I was on bdk so it was a lot easier with the soaks and I could just ams immune them
but god it was annoying
vernal vale
jumped in a hole on execute phase of heroic jailer rip my parse
lost banner and my AJ stacks
vernal vale
i did a bad and ran out for a defile and just straight into hole
sick sentinel
ikey's fine, i didn't taunt the DR slime, bomb went boom
stood in some tentacle, but had a nice big asborb up
vernal vale
If ur tanking accidentally get knocked into middle and redo
whats sad is its still a 91% parse
i know the patch reset parses but still
dawn canyon
I have seen a 18 dps healer parse be a 5%
Some non dps'srs get complacent being afk rather than doing dam
vernal vale
now that i finally have AOTC I need to focus on dungeon portals lol
vernal vale
i have a sangine key on me for this week so i think i can get it
vernal vale
I've got a few keys laggin back at like +17 lol
sick sentinel
good affixrs this week id say
sick sentinel
probably easy but no desire to run +20 fort dos
onyx vessel
dawn canyon
Dungeons are infintely more fun with friends
dawn canyon
Say you dced a force a reset boss
English isnt my mother tongue can you translate this?
sick sentinel
you know like how across all the 7niverses and timelines of beavis and butthead they cant score? well thatd me with a 28 fort nw or a 27 tyranical dos even a+24 mists
dawn canyon
I have a 15 PF on war with 3070 so free asf 3150ish
sick sentinel
there is no possible universe i can see myself running 27 key
dawn canyon
U cba fix imma guess?
I wanna unfuck it a bit but honestly would rather game the ele
Littleheal in a 20
😵💫
P sure i can just bring shaman to a 20 since no dam required either
I got to 15kish overall on ele mostly now so ilvl and demon pulls and it's about where wari is
I have uhh 18 mist on ele so ++ into Portal
Wanna bg
I hit 4k mmr
If im poggers i hit 10k this season bit i doubt
i had like 3 1sts and 2 2nd today so big gain
Can nearly buy the uh perks too
idk if i hold that gold for CN tho
still didnt complete tutorial 
waxen orbit
Am I coping if I'm saying prot warr is a good ass PI target in execute phase with banner, avatar, and BV?
Because we rip 40k executes every GCD during that
dawn canyon
sim
chrome falcon
Am I coping if I'm saying prot warr is a good ass PI target in execute phase wit...
literally the best PI target i believe
we do the most execute dps in the game
vernal vale
i wish i could get PI
chrome falcon
gl with that
vernal vale
the priest gives it to the fury warrior
waxen orbit
the priest gives it to the fury warrior
OOF
hazy edge
My war isn't the most geared, but 2 min execute patchwork
no PI: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rGBULyMNoktoogS4xpPkaR
PI: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fLKg8rVgSw6vEJNeV1PfBd
chrome falcon
huh
is 600 kind of low for pi?
feels low but i don't know shit about PI my healers handle that shit of things lmao
ocean yoke
rygelon big hurty
muted nexus
wut da tasty treats choice of addons for mob% for enemy forces
chrome falcon
this jailer mount kinda good tbh
hazy edge
mount special is pretty sweet too
hazy edge
ye
dawn canyon
definitely better than looking at halondrus' 4 nuts when i'm flying around
Also afking on it in oribos is sweet
U enjoying title too
chrome falcon
title is dogshit ngl
chrome falcon
the pattern sucks
what even is the pattern
the pattern has done nothing to earn my guardianship
dawn canyon
10.4 content
chrome falcon
if i can't execute it i don't want it
chrome falcon
i'm 57 and a half in classic and i told myself i would hit tbc content today
dawn canyon
What level are you now
chrome falcon
i guess that was yesterday at this point but
almost 58, might get it off handing in all these quests at winterspring
gonna be weird when my classic warrior is higher level than my real warrior
dawn canyon
Timbermaw hold <3
chrome falcon
killing furbolg in felwood/winterspring is my comfiest wow pasttime
dawn canyon
I gotta continue my loremaster thing
I went Kali first and am just doing it top to bottom
So next is where firelands is
dawn canyon
I did twilight Highlands and that mf was 170 quests heavy
I should hit exalted there next week tho so that's cool
chrome falcon
twilight highlands owns but yeah it's so fucking dense
meager quail
i'm 57 and a half in classic and i told myself i would hit tbc content today <:o...
I read that as "I'm 57. I'm spending half my time playing classic"
I should go back to bed -_-
dawn canyon
Classic shadowlands at that point
chrome falcon
wdym classic shadowlands starts in 4 weeks
relive the amazing memories
of SLG
and fatescribe
chrome falcon
apparently they're buffing it?
naxx was trivial in wotlk the first time around tbf
baby's first raid
it was pretty smart really, if very lazy
mighty valley
yeah that was truly the first like... done within hours of max level raid
it was correct to reuse it, no one saw that shit in vanilla
and honestly that difficulty was fine for the majority of wow players for the time
chrome falcon
and it let them make ulduar fuckin sick as hell
mighty valley
but that was the first raid that was being done by pugs like, immediately
dawn canyon
Has a banger tmog Set tho
chrome falcon
if naxx wasn't so stupid easy/puggable i never would have got into raiding and joined a guild for ulduar
dawn canyon
chrome falcon
i think it's the same for a lot of people tbh
dawn canyon
Those wrath frogs who still play
toxic pewter
Evening gang
mighty valley
yeah, just wouldn't be thrilling now, in the same way MC was revealed to be absolutely nothing in classic
but if they buff it, could be cool
chrome falcon
but yeah i'm hoping phase 1 is super short
dawn canyon
Well nothing like this compares even remotely to retail
chrome falcon
at least we have maly and sarth for something to do
dawn canyon
And it doesnt have to
chrome falcon
yeah if it was hard
fuck that
i'm looking forward to a 10 man guild with some irls where i'm the only boomer who actually played the expansion
so i can just tell stories all day while they pat me on the back and give me my meds
mighty valley
oh yeah i'm the storytelling guy every timewalking raid
dawn canyon
And then pout CE BTW
mighty valley
"this was good back then, honestly"
chrome falcon
oh yeah all my friends suck at the game real bad
i have to carry them to their weekly 15s
meager quail
God this conversation is making me feel old
meager quail
so i can just tell stories all day while they pat me on the back and give me my ...
Mostly this, coming from a guy 5-10 years younger than me
Which I read just after taking my meds 😂
chrome falcon
"You know, we used to call it the lootship! Get it? Because it's easy, so you get free loot!"
chrome falcon
i gotta do lootship from the alliance side this time
lootship shield looks sick as hell
meager quail
I need to finish leveling my alt dark iron for the heritage. Kinda boring to just run heritage but it does look good and it's a mog where the shield actually sodding matches.
mighty valley
omg sodding
onyx vessel
i have to carry them to their weekly 15s
Carry me too sexy
mighty valley
words i haven't heard since i left the uk
onyx vessel
dawn canyon
It was my favourite thing in Hearthstone for a year and then i got it first illdan and havent really swapped off of it
mighty valley
that's well mental mate
meager quail
words i haven't heard since i left the uk
We have the best words
mighty valley
every word is an absolute belter
dawn canyon
Bloody brillant arent they?
meager quail
I’m chuffed with the lot of em
chrome falcon
cracking stuff chaps
meager quail
At this point I’m just happy I can remember words
dawn canyon
Havent lived there in uhh 14 years
onyx vessel
meager quail
Now and then the idea of living elsewhere appeals
Then I get on discord, encounter merkins and remember why I like it here
mighty valley
bunch of blood merkins
meager quail
They’re all berks
mighty valley
as a british person this will be powerfully cringe to you
meager quail
Christ
dawn canyon
Funny
meager quail
Well, time to drag my decrepit old arse back to bed with some problematic British satire to drift off to
woven girder
Hey uh, im going to be tanking ryg for my guild tomorrow as necro prot, anyone got any advice on how to be a live lord, they put 30 pulls into it today but this will be my first time seeing the fight on mythic and would really like some advice
muted nexus
Hey uh, im going to be tanking ryg for my guild tomorrow as necro prot, anyone g...
banner rage spam go brrrr
woven girder
I meant ideal locations for defensives, obviously i will banner rage spam go brrrrr
vernal vale
any time i leveled through cata i did vashjir
Vashj was great after the swarm of people at the midnight drop. Swimming around to collect items to not drown was awful with a ton of people
vernal vale
so i can just tell stories all day while they pat me on the back and give me my ...
Only even older than WoD
I wish I still had some cataclysm parses.
Wrath was sadly short for me. I started during Trial of the Grand Crusader. Raided that one week as a dps and got asked to tank for one of the ten man ICC teams that came out that week.
sweet summit
Hey uh, im going to be tanking ryg for my guild tomorrow as necro prot, anyone g...
have wall ready for intermission orb soak
other than that just abuse healer externals if you consistently feel sketch at any point in the fight where you don't have/can't use anything
orchid frigate
i got ridiculed by a brewmaster when going to streets when he wondered if me (in fury spec atm) wanted something from the dungeon and i replied that i was after the ticking sack of terror. "tank wanting dps trinket. kek!"
was a bit baffled that there are tanks out there only going for defensive items
onyx vessel
strong forum
Most of tank players think that every item has to be catered to the maximum defensive output
grave crane
i thought that when i first started tanking
open bluff
Most of tank players think that every item has to be catered to the maximum defe...
best defense is a good offense 
jagged pier
Ive literally never thought that
strong forum
I didn't think when I started tanking
jagged pier
I think about damage output
strong forum
jagged pier
Because im.going to live
strong forum
I was always after the sexy dmg trinkets
pallid quiver
I like neat survival trinkets, and I'll gear for them if they enable me to do stupid shit, but on average I've always espoused hitting minimum survivability comfort threshold, then gearing for max damage. If it dies before you can make a mistake, you'll make less mistakes was always my motto. At least, since Pandaland. Before that, I was too young to really remember what I thought if at all
strong forum
I've recently seen a vdh do more dmg with codex than with spirit bomb in a 16
Soooo that was something
strong forum
Bullying people?
blazing condor
Bullying people?
orchid frigate
been dabbling with a DK alt. am I just bad at the class if I dont feel the OPness (270, 4set)?
blazing condor
gavel makes a big diff
orchid frigate
been feeling super squishy to the point where ive considered turning low health flashing off 😄
blazing condor
i haven't played dk much but it really is a 0-100 class
you take big hits and then insta-heal it with death strike
orchid frigate
mhm
looking at other DKs when they stream and even if their health drops now and then it looks a lot smoother
guess it comes with more practice which CDs to use and when to even it out a bit
last time i played DK was S1 in BFA and i remember feeling a lot more tankier
might have been before the nerfs that gutted them tho
blazing condor
a lot of experience and being proactive is needed
orchid frigate
true