protection

[topaz field]

after having permission by asa i think

[jagged pier]

he can for sure press it more

[topaz field]

i always pres sit on opener

in pack

[jagged pier]

but TC is generally pretty low or very low on damage output

[topaz field]

a dumb question: the outburst bonus

does it also refer to the rage gen?

[scenic mural]

yes

[topaz field]

ye it felt like

thx

[verbal hill]

What's the biggest source of reg generation overall? SS with outburst procs?

Or is it mostly from getting auto attacked?

[jagged pier]

u get next to nothing from being auto attacked

this isnt classic

u get 3 rage per second from combat

i wonder what gives the most rage gen

🤔

[strong forum]

My TC is also way way higher than thwumps

It do be like that

[jagged pier]

mine is like at least double

[strong forum]

I overuse TC and IP instead of revenging

It do be like that

[jagged pier]

☝️

[topaz field]

often times when i gather mobs

like lets say first pull gambit

3-4 mob groups

i struggle so much with aggro

initially

its disgusting

[jagged pier]

well your dps should wait

[topaz field]

ye ofc they should

[jagged pier]

and normal TC into 2 revenges

should be fine

[topaz field]

but they are monkeys

then i just misplay

lose banner etc

not like on the first pull but in general

whenever i struggle with aggro i tend to lose banner in that pull

[open bluff]

they can wait or they can die

usually a good way to teach dps to hold up before blowing everything

[jagged pier]

u should also for instance

in the first pull of gambit

have challenging shout

[topaz field]

yes

i dont rlly have probs there

but i mean pulls like this one

wanted to give u an example

[sweet summit]

unironically just ignore the fact that you don't have aggro on a few mobs

if they complain

[jagged pier]

also that

[sweet summit]

tell them to wait a bit

otherwise just keep rolling

as long as it works, it works

[topaz field]

ye correct i dont even know why i worry about these clowns

[sweet summit]

exactly!

[topaz field]

like when the healer forgets to top me before pull and insta snaps healing aggro im off my chair

outburst in my head

i want to choke him irl

[sweet summit]

i've never experienced that

sounds like a thing that can happen in classic, not retail

[topaz field]

ofc this happens during grouping

not when i charge in

but u know sometimes u just taunt one mob or heroic throw

of a different group

[sweet summit]

idk healing aggro feels nonexistant rn

it is what it is i guess

[blazing condor]

Only time theres been healer aggro is if ive ran around mounted to tag multiple groups for a bigger pull or smth

And healer hots me up or smth

[topaz field]

this is what i meant

but hots cant agro xD only if you were too late on them

[drifting juniper]

guys in the level of keys i am doing i am not getting much out of execute conduit, on my 5th or 6th execute the boss dies or on my second the mob

[cobalt seal]

No

[drifting juniper]

i am thinking of changing to bonesmith for more strenght, any ideas

[cobalt seal]

To whatever you gonna ask

[drifting juniper]

something like this

[cobalt seal]

(no)

[drifting juniper]

why not,

[cobalt seal]

Well

If you dont use FS on cd

[drifting juniper]

seems like strong soulbind with the mastery on pull and all the time strenght

[cobalt seal]

Might as well

But nothing to do with keys you doing

[drifting juniper]

targets don't last long for me to execute them, i track the buff i barely reach 5 stacks

[jagged pier]

Hes not really he bearly outsims marge, and dont firget kevin from marge sgives 6% dps and marge is 3 potency conduits so u get strength aaf and ashen

[lofty widget]

if you barely reach 5 stacks then youre not executing enough

regardless of key level, you should get 8 stacks in 10-15 seconds

even faster p robably

[sick sentinel]

marge you also get delete cc mechanics by doing flesh craft

stand in all the urhs

[lofty widget]

dont tho

[drifting juniper]

idk what level of keys you guys do but i can only execute bosses, the mobs keep melting like butter

if using exe on bosses only is worth it then i keep doing what i'm doing

[strong forum]

In that niche scenario Id say, sure you can run Show of force, its not terrible

[sick sentinel]

i pretty much do 15 16s that mostly it

[drifting juniper]

i wanted to use 2 potency with bonesmith, to see how it is

[strong forum]

Homer is solid dmg aswell, just less optimal conduit spread

[drifting juniper]

because if i am using AAf why not have permanent 3% str

[sick sentinel]

is there some simpsons reference im missing on tge third one

[strong forum]

Well AAF is slotted in anyway

[sick sentinel]

we got gomer and marge

[drifting juniper]

i sent a pic on how i did my conduits

[strong forum]

Isnt serrated spaulers better

Lemme check

[drifting juniper]

did 410 k in Nw for me

when i tried it once

[strong forum]

Sounds decent, but total values are always a bit skewed

[drifting juniper]

ashen juggernaut was working well for me last week on tyra

i could like cast 20 exe on bosses but now around 7

[strong forum]

Ya okay you can't play serrated spaulders

That way you'd end up with only 1 potency

Yuck

[jagged pier]

15-21s can reach 8 stacks on trash in like any of thos lvls

[strong forum]

Yah in my 15-24s aj is always pretty good

Execute is a solid 1-1.5k dps overall

[drifting juniper]

how much does it lose without the conduit tho

my friends who call up on me to tank some boost keys for them in like 15-20, MOnk +mm hunter i barely see the mobs, i am not saying i stop using execute i say that people are overgeared and my time window is very limited

in my head it loses value and i might be very well wrong about it

[strong forum]

It's hard to quantify the actual gain from aj in keys

Especially when mobs blow up

[lofty widget]

i'd argue AJ is enough value on bosses alone

[topaz field]

100 %

[lofty widget]

but idk if you can only get 5 executes on bosses then probably not

[topaz field]

hard to believe couz ww and hunter always hold cds when boss is below 40 % xD

[strong forum]

I had ~31% uptime in pf23 on aj, got to 8 stacks 9 times

[drifting juniper]

+19 tred ova lasted 58 seconds last time i did it this week

[strong forum]

Yah that's quick lmao

[drifting juniper]

but it wasn't a boost run, our last dps was a havoc dh

[strong forum]

Aj isn't a must, it's just joocy on bosses when you can pump like 400k dmg in just a few casts

[drifting juniper]

i couldnt execute at all but on yeah i think +22 its a lot of gain

[strong forum]

Sof overall is fine if you actually press TC

It's like 200-300 dps of TC

[drifting juniper]

i barely due after i learned how warrior works form you guys

[strong forum]

Atleast for me

[topaz field]

haha im fucking confused 😄

[drifting juniper]

its a cycle of revenge shield slam into intervene and charge and so on

[topaz field]

i asked for tc usage and u told me to use it on cd

but low prio

and this morning i learned to not use tc at all basically

[strong forum]

It's a fickle beast

[drifting juniper]

i use it as a filler and i'm happy

[topaz field]

its actually the box of pandora

[lofty widget]

you should use tc close to on cd, just not if you can SS or if it would overcap you

it's still 5 rage

[drifting juniper]

its doing less than my attack tho

in overall

like 1.4m

[strong forum]

That's my top23

[drifting juniper]

so i am not using it enough

[strong forum]

I'm overusing it a little

[topaz field]

its almost the same for me

closer to revenge than revenge to ss

[lofty widget]

this is a random key from me

underusing?

[strong forum]

And TC hits harder than revenge for me cuz I'm using SoF and not BSC

[drifting juniper]

when i don't have misdirection and people don't let me get aggro

i open with avatar into clap

in those situations it does a bit more for me

[strong forum]

Which is good for threat purposes yes

[topaz field]

same actually

[strong forum]

And like I said, generally the outburst usage should be like 1-3 between TC and SS

[topaz field]

what does that mean?

[drifting juniper]

1 out of 3 i guess

[topaz field]

ah i see

[strong forum]

For every 3 outbursts you use on SS, you should have 1 TC aswell

"should"

That is to avoid overlaps of outburst stacks

And also
On 4+ targets, outburst TC will break even with the dmg of SS+ 1revenge

Because its quite unrealistic that you can fit 2 revenges from the rage gained from outburst SS without using IP

[drifting juniper]

i agree

i use ignore pain to dump it

[strong forum]

If you can, sure then revenge will be better, but it's unlikely, I myself reactively press IP when I reach above 60 rage

Which isn't a good thing, but I do

[drifting juniper]

but i still think i am doing many things wrong i finish the key with 10k or 9k dps

[strong forum]

Ya that's low

In that top, counting spell reflect I hit almost 15k

[drifting juniper]

i can do that damage easily with my paladin day in day out

[topaz field]

can u explain me that "That is to avoid overlaps of outburst stacks"

[drifting juniper]

very high aoe burst but lower st damage than my warrior

[strong forum]

Having outburst ready but pressing avatar

[topaz field]

yes but how do i avoid that?

[drifting juniper]

or sometimes pressing avatar on 6 stacks but no procs on shield slam and u use revenge and suddenly you get outburst XD

[topaz field]

i mean not pressing avatar obviously

before i spend it right?

or what do u specifically mean

[drifting juniper]

i think when i get enough gear i can close in on 12k but i mostly think my problem is my knowledge and rotation rather than gear

[topaz field]

i also think its experience

i also find myself doing better numbers on my brew but thats only because i know 100 % what to do at any time

[drifting juniper]

yeah i think this is my 3rd week as protection warrior

[topaz field]

like last week i was doing fine with my reprisal this week i forgot it because im bad

[drifting juniper]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/twisting-nether/ageran this is my gear

[strong forum]

By pressing TC without waiting for an SS proc

[topaz field]

oh now i get it

[dawn canyon]

upgrad ur wep

[topaz field]

before i was too hesitant to spend outburst and now i find myself doing it too often on tc

[drifting juniper]

waiting for this week vault

[topaz field]

upgrade all shit

valor is everywhere

its inflation baby

[drifting juniper]

i don't have much actually , on my main i got around 40k

[topaz field]

irl and ingame xD

[drifting juniper]

if i don't get weapon from vault i insta upgrade this one

[topaz field]

oh btw how fucking awesome is globgrog btw as prot 😄 doing wl dmg

[strong forum]

On tyr 25 I did 20k on him

Very fun indeed

[pulsar pendant]

Hey I was wondering if there were any prominent and trustworthy prot content creators that did YouTube guides, or even just some solid m+ runs I could watch?

[sweet summit]

sense

[strong forum]

Sense - nurfed on Youtube

[pulsar pendant]

Ty! 😁

[onyx vessel]

[regal yacht]

How much are you staggering your offensive cds to maintain banner? Or a you still trying to line them up for max burst?

[chrome falcon]

press your CDs on CD

no thinking

the only cooldown that you don't press on cooldown is shield well

everything else you just send it

[jagged pier]

youve always pressed cds on cd

avatar lines up with every second demo anyways

[chrome falcon]

think = hard

press button = easy

press cds and go big dam

[regal yacht]

Avatar still lines up when running AM?

[jagged pier]

yer

[chrome falcon]

and even if it doesn't

you don't care

just send

[strong forum]

Just send it dude

[cobalt seal]

that's literally the number 1 thing in most (if not all dps)

use your cd's on cd

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-marvel-simple-spell-unbreakable-gif-14530077

[jagged pier]

i feel this more and more with banner uptime

[sick sentinel]

where do i fit on that scale

[jagged pier]

only u can answer that

[wintry nymph]

im running my 268 prot warrior with a 226 weapon still

[humble pelican]

Far left

[humble pelican]

thank you for the illustration

[trail glacier]

[sick sentinel]

i had considered doing a zero viewer recording on twitch (so i could use OBS to diplay camera/inputs) and then log the key and record it as i'm playing and face reactions, try to submit that + log, find out for definite where the break down occurs

would show exactly what i did and thought pattern/worry points or something like this

[humble pelican]

So, what you're saying, is that we would see this as a facial reaction?

[sick sentinel]

some balding middle age man? yeah

[broken crater]

doesnt need to be twitch, you can just record with obs and upload unlisted to youtube

[sick sentinel]

unironically perma blocking cro now

[cobalt seal]

https://tenor.com/view/liar-truth-gif-24941524

[sick sentinel]

sorry man, i'm constantly at odds with you fighting over trivial shit

[broken crater]

lmao

[sick sentinel]

so im not even going to read any message from you at all

[minor helm]

[toxic pewter]

Good morning gang 🌞

Or good afternoon 🤠

[cobalt seal]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-okay-slide-gif-15172486

[broken crater]

illustration doesnt seem to be wrong however

[toxic pewter]

Can we pin this post please

[blazing condor]

Based phil

[toxic pewter]

Phil- let’s keep the channel on topic please

We are all prot brothers here- through and through. Some people get banned, others leave, but in the end we are all brothers.

And sisters

[blazing condor]

Im a warrior

[humble pelican]

#FREE @cobalt seal HE DINDUNUFFIN

[toxic pewter]

After my recent banning, I learned a hard lesson: you cannot pleas everyone. But I have made amends and asked others for forgiveness. Many laughed in my face, others even asked me for forgiveness. I always am one to oblige. I hope in time you all can do the same.

[humble pelican]

how do you even get banned

asking for a friend

[cobalt seal]

by asking for it

[dawn canyon]

apb when codex bad

[toxic pewter]

I didn’t ask for it, per se

[dawn canyon]

you did

[toxic pewter]

I mean it depends on how you perceive what I typed. Either way- let us remain on topic in this channel. Any personal insults toward me please direct to off topic channel

Thank you and good day.

[split trout]

Lies. Im a wannabe prot. I use sheild to attack and sword to block

[toxic pewter]

You are here to better yourself, everyone here is. No one here is perfect we all can improve in some way. I am here to help you on that journey.

You are our brother, you are not a “wannabe”

[dawn canyon]

Philosophy Andy

In a discord about Videogames

[toxic pewter]

Phil…

[dawn canyon]

Fr tho it u feel like u need hints n stuff log a run and the yellows will help

[split trout]

Lol.
Half true though

[sick parcel]

Odds of Glad Warriors in Dragon Lands????

Glad Stance. Or Glad stance like build.

[karmic plinth]

think blizzard already confrimed it wont be back

[jagged pier]

very very low

[sick parcel]

But not zero!

[lofty widget]

well you round down

[jagged pier]

well im not ever gunna say no because we just dont know

but blizz did say in the past it isnt coming back

but they said that with tier sets 🤷

[sick parcel]

They also said there was a ripcord. Then said there wasn’t a ripcord. Then pulled the ripcord that wasn’t there.

[strong forum]

Very low chance of glad stance returning

It would be fun, but low chance of that happening

[karmic plinth]

not in modern wow's tank design philosophy

[strong forum]

Well first of all glad stance wasn't a tank, it was a talent which turned you into a 1h+shield dps

Which made it quite niche to begin with

[sick parcel]

Who knows?? Looking at the Priest tree you can build a Disc priest that can pretty much be pure damage.

[strong forum]

Same for hpriest, except hpriest will do alot more with current numbers in mind

[sick parcel]

Is it good damage. Probably not. But looks fun.

[strong forum]

Nothing is guaranteed but I'd be surprised if it made a comeback

I'd be happy, cuz I would finally have a spec to play when I'm not tank

But im cautiously pessimistic

[chrome falcon]

not necessarily just a talent that is "glad stance" but it'd be cool if we could build for heavy damage

ashen juggs in general warrior tree

[sick parcel]

I mean. That’s the first thing I’ll do once tree is out. Spec Prot. And select all damage doots I can!

[strong forum]

It's gonna be so fucked

Parsing build but full squish
Mixed build
Heavy surv build

[chrome falcon]

yeah it's gonna own

[strong forum]

Unless there's gonna be some sort of streamline

[chrome falcon]

[strong forum]

Where you can't go like hpriest can

And forego shit loads of healing for dmg

[karmic plinth]

seismic in the class tree

[strong forum]

Seismic is just a poor version of actually having buttons deal dmg

[chrome falcon]

the only thing from shadowlands i want to see in 10.0 is outburst

and ashen juggs i guess

[cobalt seal]

banner?

[chrome falcon]

eh i could take or leave banner

[strong forum]

Spear/banner and tierset are my bets

Ashen jugg will be on class tree, maybe signet too

And ravager

[vernal vale]

I would expect signet to be a legendary type effect again.

[strong forum]

sudden death/ massacre probably aswell

[sick parcel]

Just need lots of clap, revenge and of course shield slam damage. Probably access to SMF to buff dam even further.

[strong forum]

Ain't gonna be legendaries like that again

Tiersets will be the only borrowed power of DF

[chrome falcon]

[sick parcel]

Ohhh imagine. Access to Titan Grip!! 2h plus shields!!!

[strong forum]

Ya I've played with the idea of it

[vernal vale]

Maybe signet as a tier bonus then. I find it hard to see them put it in our tree

[strong forum]

But it has no real gain except transmog

[chrome falcon]

i would 100% take a performance loss just to be able to use a 2h

just for the first tier or something

[sick parcel]

Well stats are higher on big stick.

[strong forum]

I would only want the tmog options available

[chrome falcon]

but titan's grip is for sure the first talent that fury takes in their tree

[strong forum]

Na that's bloodthirst

Titan grip is prolly like 3rd or 4th row

Or very far down on the fury side of class tree

[vernal vale]

I want them to biff SMF for fury to be more in line

[strong forum]

So that arms can't really get there

[karmic plinth]

wouldnt be surprised if it was just baseline too

[vernal vale]

I like the movement speed bonus of smf

[karmic plinth]

for fury only

[strong forum]

Smf is in line

It's just gavel and jaithys pushing 2h ahead

[chrome falcon]

there is no "baseline" for each spec

the closest thing specs have to baseline is their first mandatory talent

[strong forum]

Without gavel or jaithys, the only gain 2h would have over smf is the extra stam

[vernal vale]

Fair enough

[karmic plinth]

the blue posts said there were baseline spells no ?

[chrome falcon]

there's baseline for classes and everything else is talents

yes

for the class

[karmic plinth]

ah ok

[lofty widget]

it's also just flavor spells iirc

like levitate for priests etc

[sick parcel]

I would say a solid guess as to what is base. Is the general Warrior page in spell book. Then the actual spec spells will be talents.

[strong forum]

Abilities like charge, execute and battleshout will be the "baseline" spells

Actually I think bshout might be a talent too

[sick parcel]

Right. Maybe heroic throw too.

[strong forum]

On the class tree

Heroic throw will be a talent

Pretty sure

[sick parcel]

What!!

[strong forum]

Or well "sure" I don't know shit, I'm just making an educated guess

[vernal vale]

Only way it should be a talent is if they bring gag order back to it

[sick parcel]

We gotta have a range pull. That’s not taunt. For all specs.

[karmic plinth]

if heroic throw is a talent i bet they will make an 'improved heroic throw' talent just to remove the cd

[strong forum]

Improved heroic throw ill be "applies silence for 5 seconds, 30sec CD"

🙏

[silk pine]

I hope they bring bfa prot warri playstyle back

[chrome falcon]

why

bfa prot was horrible to play

[silk pine]

Was funny

[chrome falcon]

wow i love pressing thunder clap

super fun very engaging

[strong forum]

Compared to now bfa pwar was braindead

[chrome falcon]

if bfa prot didn't do busted damage people would have 100% hated it

bfa prot is sandwiched between legion prot and shadowlands prot

which are both absolute banger specs

in comparison

[strong forum]

With alot more icing on the cake

Doubt a spec ever took more effort besides maybe madness spriest

But I could be very wrong

[vernal vale]

I might be biased but I do miss legion prot

[chrome falcon]

legion prot was amazing

[sick sentinel]

i was not able to experience legion prot

8.0 prot and onwards

[chrome falcon]

i think i like 7.0 and 7.3 prot both more than current prot

and i really like current prot

[vernal vale]

So much rage in legion prot.

[jagged pier]

and no minimum range 🙏

[vernal vale]

No janky reprisal to use in legion

[sick sentinel]

no minimum range for charge either plz

or, less range

[vernal vale]

I think the only thing keeping me from liking current prot more is reprisal. It's so much fun with that little bit of jank

[karmic plinth]

hopefully with these new trees they dont make block talents compete with non block talents 🙏

[shut summit]

fuck block talents

[karmic plinth]

amen

[jagged pier]

just let use have block and get to 100% through good play and stuff

no talents

and no AM talent anywhere make it baseline

[vernal vale]

Just a slight adjustment to shield block to let us manage our block uptime.

One more charge on it, a reset of the charge, anything but making us take a talent to fill a gap in our one real non CD mitigation.

[sick sentinel]

reprisal AM and HR would be alot of fun together

[sweet summit]

no reprisal

[vernal vale]

No reprisal is jank.

[sweet summit]

HR and AM would be cool though, yes

[karmic plinth]

reprisal as the beginning node in the protection tree

[sick sentinel]

im okay with this

[sweet summit]

guess i sleep til 11.0 then

[sick sentinel]

12.0 reprisal is life

[chrome falcon]

100% reprisal is on the tree

just accept it and hope there's something better we can take

[sweet summit]

there is nothing better than reprisal in power level...

[sick sentinel]

twilight dev

just... delete 50% + of trash mob HP and can hit all kinds of things

[zealous willow]

Hi ppl , i want to try new tank and i guess it will be warrior (i have dk and dh atm). From what i see warrior is not in bad spot atm , but is it fun to play with set and stuff

[chrome falcon]

very fun

[sweet summit]

true and real and based

[vernal vale]

It is incredibly fun

[vernal vale]

I hope it's not our must grab pick. No one actually likes it. Just they tuned it to be super strong.

[topaz field]

where dk feels like you are at watching an NFL match prot warrior is a real madrid vs barcelona 10pm match

[chrome falcon]

reprisal was fun for a while

[sick sentinel]

pwar feels like hockey player

dancing around slamming into random people

bunch of protective gear on

[zealous willow]

What horde race u recomend ? I know the diff is nothing too serious ,but what abt highmoutain tauren or there is a better one ?

[toxic pewter]

Reprisal will not be returning

[vernal vale]

Highmointain is fine

[toxic pewter]

Definitely Vulpera

[vernal vale]

I like undead for horde

[topaz field]

vulpera is the best tank race

on horde

otherwise play dwarf best race in game

[zealous willow]

vulpera is ugly 😦

[toxic pewter]

Go with highmountain tauren

[sick parcel]

Who Hurt you?

[carmine pine]

Female belf best race

[topaz field]

dont ask then 😄

[toxic pewter]

Vulpera is a great race, the Vulpera racism is more of a reflection of you than anything.

[topaz field]

it is the best tank race

[sweet summit]

race does not matter

play what looks better in your opinion

[jagged pier]

vulpera is the best m+, literally none of them matter in raid, but there like no difference anyway just play what u like

[toxic pewter]

Yes

I enjoy being a cute fox

[sick parcel]

I play alliance. I don’t know which is more racist, the fact we only target Vulpera, or that the other horde help us find them.

[toxic pewter]

That is fine- you do you. Racists stick together regardless of faction

[peak carbon]

The dwarf racial is the only racial I would call good for tanks. The rest is all the same

And that is just in M+ anyways

[sick sentinel]

cow, hard to beat versa and 5 man radial stun

very good for healer or tank specs

[jagged pier]

the vers does literally nothing

nose for trouble is 10% of your healing

[peak carbon]

Dwarf master race

So I can feel at home as an IRL short guy

[sick sentinel]

if anything dwarf

[topaz field]

luckily he asked for horde

[sick sentinel]

remove all debuffs sounds good to me

[toxic pewter]

Nose for trouble smooths out a lot of pulls and having a 40yd pull is sweet

[topaz field]

and doesnt like vulpera

xD

[peak carbon]

Then flip a coin, wont matter😎

[toxic pewter]

Nightborne ftw

[lusty tiger]

How do I unlock vulpera that sounds op

[sweet summit]

horde BFA quest line

[topaz field]

bfa sucking

[sweet summit]

and it is not op

[lusty tiger]

I did a lot of bfa

[chrome falcon]

stoneform is pretty busted

but other than that

[lusty tiger]

There one issue with stone form

[sweet summit]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/vulpera-allied-race-unlock-questline-8-3-ptr-296178

[lusty tiger]

I can’t limit to horde when I post an m+

[sick sentinel]

Yes

oh your right, i didn't unlock HM

stamina, thats a tank thing

[lusty tiger]

Needs exalted); not gonna happen lol

[toxic pewter]

Yah tauren get more health

Hm tauren get vers and take less dmg per hit

[sick sentinel]

The worgens are one thing, but vulperas are just straight up rats

[sweet summit]

pretty sure the rep requirements got removed

[toxic pewter]

Honestly goblin not a bad pick they get 1% haste which is not bad and rocket jump

[peak carbon]

But for real, if you like a race just go for it. The racials barely matters, if at all. Thats it

[toxic pewter]

Ya pick what you think looks coolest

Like for me I pick Vulpera every day of the week

Cuz they’re so cute

[sick sentinel]

Min/maxing racials is kinda cringe tbh

[peak carbon]

And I play dwarf, cause dwarfs are cool

And they just happen to be good, which is a double whammy

[toxic pewter]

Right same with Vulpera

[sick sentinel]

i want hero, not lust

the noise is better for horde version though

classic

[toxic pewter]

The og sound

[sick sentinel]

i think re-imagine the heroism sound effect to be the same but different is good idea

[toxic pewter]

I’m down for that

I welcome change

[vernal vale]

I mean i play night elf because I like the movement speed from quickness. 2% chance to just avoid damage isn't bad. Haste/crit from touch of elune is pretty solid. Then we have the black eyes for unlocked that looks pretty fantastic.

I will agree there best animation.

I like the sound of lust though

[sick sentinel]

my shitter mage

I kind of like the shaman one

[toxic pewter]

Actually pretty compelling to be honest I agree

[sick sentinel]

hunter one is ??? uhh

i cant even remember now lol

[vernal vale]

Night elf with black eyes is awesome looking

[sick sentinel]

Hunter lust you wouldn't even notice If you weren't looking tbh

[vernal vale]

True

[sick sentinel]

hunter lust is still better than drums tho im pretty sure right

[vernal vale]

Drums is only there just un case you have nothing else

[sick sentinel]

i won't go anywhere without proper lust now

[sick parcel]

Ya. A lot of alliance give that side eye look. “Really? Worgen?” Which was met with “I know, it was only because the racial worked in the maw”.

[toxic pewter]

Worgen is a bad ass race

[vernal vale]

I run with guildies using only drums sometimes but those are great groups already.

[sick sentinel]

Worgens run animation still cracks me up to this day

[vernal vale]

Worgen gets crit from a racial too which isn't bad.

Really most of the radials are not bad.

[drifting fable]

i play worgen and i love the run animation tbh

[vernal vale]

It's just a preferance thing on looks by the end of the day.

[sick sentinel]

How are the kul tiran racials?

[cinder nova]

Haymaker is actually fire

[zealous willow]

undeads are worst

[vernal vale]

Kul Tiran low key up there with dwarf for me

[toxic pewter]

Worgen animations I find really bad ass

[vernal vale]

Shake it off or whatever healing for part of damage taken and Haymaker slap

[cinder nova]

I'll be honest, though, playing worgen has conditioned me to use the sprint on CD lol

[vernal vale]

I love the undead animations

[toxic pewter]

What race has the coolest animations of all time

[sick sentinel]

This one I know, I got haymaker'd in pvp

[toxic pewter]

Is it undead?

[toxic pewter]

That feelin when haymakered off map

[drifting fable]

same

[vernal vale]

Undead has the best Caster animations for sure. Melee is real close.

[drifting fable]

almost to a fault sometimes lol

[sick parcel]

They got a knock back. Male mogs look pretty good. All versions of the female look like Amy Schumer. /shrug

[toxic pewter]

What ability is the best to judge animation for prot warrior, if you had to pick one

[zealous willow]

undead is real OG when its the looks and animations , but racials are super bad for pve atm

[vernal vale]

Gotta move faster always

[toxic pewter]

Or is it the whole package

Ya I find most races look similar for prot warrior animations unless I’m missing something

[vernal vale]

Touch of the grave isn't bad it's just not good

[toxic pewter]

I wish races had more unique animations

[meager quail]

I wish Worgen could hide their weapons and play with fist weapon animations at all times

[sick sentinel]

Yeah I actually like the male kul tirans, beefy boys

[vernal vale]

My horde warrior is undead just for the animations.

[dawn canyon]

the only good thing kultirans have it the mario cosplay

[cinder nova]

Hold on.

Lemme get the best pwarr undead mog

[dawn canyon]

if its not tier 3 with skull of ruin + tfury then i dont wanna see it

t3 looks great on undead

[sick parcel]

And Dr. Robotic.

[dawn canyon]

and that

this is also pretty fun

[sick sentinel]

You know someone pvps when their mog is low res and their weapon is a shovel

[zealous willow]

if its female = 95% pvp

[vernal vale]

My undead hasn't been transmogged all expac because I leveled it and basically haven't played it.

[dawn canyon]

do i pvp

[sick sentinel]

Those weapons and shoulder pieces

[dawn canyon]

those do match

made for one another

gotta say the tier 3 recolor legs match very well and im happy i thought of it

[sick sentinel]

The boots are throwing me off though

[dawn canyon]

outside of tabard/wep nothing of this is is "new"

all wrath and below

i havent found proper boots/belt yet

[cinder nova]

shitty SS but w/e

[dawn canyon]

that shield is so fucking good

[sick sentinel]

[cinder nova]

So many good undead weapons and shields in Wotlk

[strong forum]

the 10man naxx shield is better

[cinder nova]

not even, that thing is low poly garbo

[dawn canyon]

the low poly makes it cool

[strong forum]

this shield matches better imo

[cinder nova]

It's a fucking buckler

It looks so stupid

Not even

[dawn canyon]

ahh the patchwerk one

[cinder nova]

Nom confirmed bad taste

[strong forum]

S. confirmed small pp, needs to use large shields to cope

[sick sentinel]

Idk

[dawn canyon]

scriers tabard imo

[sick sentinel]

That shield doesn't even match the mog lmao

[strong forum]

literally does

[vernal vale]

I like the bigger shields more often than not.

[cinder nova]

Not really. The problem is all the armor looks chunky and bulky

[cinder nova]

Then the shield looks like you got it from weenie hut jr

[vernal vale]

That's why I use the gold challenge mode one from warlords

[dawn canyon]

the tier 3 recolor boots are so good on dworf

[strong forum]

yea

they are

also i dont have scriers tabard

and the one im using is one of my favourites

[blazing condor]

Damn alliance HoF aint even been closed yet

Shits mad slow

[sick sentinel]

I agree to this, one of my favorites is the legion artifact hidden appearance shield

[blazing condor]

When was the patch released?

[chrome falcon]

jailer hard

alliance bad

[dawn canyon]

sindy 10 man shield

🤤

[cinder nova]

You know what I used to see a lot of in like Cata/Wotlk that I haven't seen in literal years?

[chrome falcon]

the outside world

[dawn canyon]

think we are like 17 or 18 weeks in

[sick sentinel]

Grass?

[vernal vale]

Doesn't help the game is over half horde lol

[strong forum]

so good

[chrome falcon]

i said what i said

[cinder nova]

https://classic.wowhead.com/item=22818/the-plague-bearer

and...

https://classic.wowhead.com/item=22809/maul-of-the-redeemed-crusader

[chrome falcon]

i'm still tilted they nerfed weapon size for tauren

like why

for what purpose

[cinder nova]

I'm still sad they haven't reintroduced that slappin mace

That thing looks great

[sick sentinel]

Blizzard has a thing for small weapons and shields

[dawn canyon]

i want shit the size of zinrohk

[vernal vale]

They want to keep it special for people apparently.

[strong forum]

im mad about the cata maces nerfed

[dawn canyon]

swords bigger than dwarfs

[strong forum]

actuall wrath and cata maces and axes have been nerfed

this one used to be gigantic

[vernal vale]

There used to be some giant weapons. That are not big anymore.

[dawn canyon]

my fucking 10 man hands still havent dropped doing it for 7 weeks on 2 warriors

very cringe

[cinder nova]

Bro I feel old

[strong forum]

thats cuz we are

[cinder nova]

All the comments on the Maul of the Redeemed Crusader are imports from thotbot

[sick sentinel]

This shield

[vernal vale]

I used that look all legion until I got mage tower.

[cinder nova]

unpopular opinion, I don't like that shield

[strong forum]

its good but its easy to overuse it

[cinder nova]

It looks good, but I've seen too many overconfident chud losers use it

So now I just associate it with that

[vernal vale]

The mage tower shield is bad but the flail is great.

[cinder nova]

Wrong opinion detected

[strong forum]

wrong opinion detected

[cinder nova]

MT shield is the best shield in the game

[strong forum]

the flail sucks

the shield is great

[vernal vale]

It's so hard to match with transmog

[strong forum]

eeh

[cinder nova]

Hold up

I got you

[chrome falcon]

the flail is absolutely terrible

if it actually had physics

it would own

[cinder nova]

read em and weep

[chrome falcon]

physics on revenge specifically

[dawn canyon]

aight time to do archeology for zinrohk

[vernal vale]

That's the reason I don't use it anymore

[dawn canyon]

i hate worgen

[strong forum]

cataclysmic glad

ofc

[dawn canyon]

good boy

cataglad is good

[cinder nova]

There are so few things that look good on worgen males

I've given up looking past this

Since it all fits together so perfectly

[dawn canyon]

because they look bad

[vernal vale]

The stupid manaroth shoulders won't drop for me

[strong forum]

imagine not getting them on accident on your 3rd kill? lol

[cinder nova]

Even the cloth bands on the shield tusks are the same shade as the cloak and other highlights

[dawn canyon]

if only the raid was shorter

[strong forum]

also the weppy is perfect fit

[vernal vale]

I was running it on 3 or 4 warriors at one point hoping.

[strong forum]

shield on both sides

[dawn canyon]

need more shit like this

[cinder nova]

You know what was my favorite tier, though?

[sick sentinel]

Hopefully DF gives us some cool dragon shields

[cinder nova]

ATB mythic

it was so stupid

I loved it

[strong forum]

you mean raid wise?

[dawn canyon]

apparently u can do the instance all u want with reroll tokens so im farming isle until imma slam 2k attempts

[cinder nova]

ATB mythic warrior tier was perfectly matched to default MT shield skin

[dawn canyon]

[vernal vale]

Oof, I don't want to farm old reroll tokens

[cinder nova]

Unironically

Lemme get it out

[dawn canyon]

its okay u just kill frogs on timeless isle

[dawn canyon]

then invite urself on an alt

go boss leave group

[cinder nova]

Dwarf makes it look icky

Also the sword yike

[strong forum]

??

[dawn canyon]

and then repeat with token

till it drops

[strong forum]

this man legit got no taste lmao

lemme guess

[dawn canyon]

yellow icc on dworf

[strong forum]

tauren player

[cinder nova]

Nah

[strong forum]

orc

[dawn canyon]

didnt he post his worgen

[cinder nova]

No. I main worgen, but I hate the way they look

[strong forum]

i hoped that was an alt

[sick sentinel]

Human male

[strong forum]

cuz worgen melee animations are horrid

[cinder nova]

Nah bro I'm like 2nd world 1st NA for H parses why would I alt that

[strong forum]

you can only play caster as worgen

anything else is wrong

[cinder nova]

I used to play dwarf and orc

[chrome falcon]

ah nomer slandering tauren again

normal start to the week

[sick sentinel]

Highlander Tauren are cool

[dawn canyon]

tauren is so specific and i cant make it work

[strong forum]

ill never not slander tauren

theyre way too popular

for how ugly they are

[vernal vale]

By issue with Tauren is going through damn doors

[strong forum]

[dawn canyon]

this set is the only thing that looks good on male dreanai

[cinder nova]

Nah.

[chrome falcon]

antorus set just goes so hard

[cinder nova]

I'm on Moon Guard, I see a lot of ugly male draenei plate mogs, but there are some bangers mark me

[strong forum]

boots gloves and belt are too big of that set

no bueno

[chrome falcon]

if there's one set i wish i earned from pvp

[sick sentinel]

I'm surprised I haven't seen a gnome yet

[chrome falcon]

it's that one

[strong forum]

cruel glad > demonic glad

[chrome falcon]

the boots look terrible though

on a lot of races

[strong forum]

the only good thing about that set is the shoulders

[chrome falcon]

those boots/gloves on female belf

[strong forum]

everything else is garbanzo

[chrome falcon]

are actually fucking hilarious

[sick sentinel]

Moonguard

[cinder nova]

The helm is actually comedy gold.

Like if you examine the ATB warrior tier

It looks like someone made a suit of full plate

and then said, "what if we gave the suit of full plate a suit of full plate?"

The helm has AN INTERIOR VISOR

It was made by the mind of a six year old and it's actually 🔥

[sick sentinel]

They need to make more 3d gear, specifically chest pieces

[cinder nova]

Talking about casualties, though

[chrome falcon]

that's why i like the juggernaut set

it's just

ridiculous

[cinder nova]

We got done mad dirty this tier with cosmetics

[sick sentinel]

Tired of looking like a skin walker

[chrome falcon]

it's the armour equivalent of a buster sword

every class got fucked on transmog/cosmetics this expansion

easily the word expansion for tmog since like

classic

[cinder nova]

Nah, CN plate is actually pretty good

[chrome falcon]

exceptions prove rules

[cinder nova]

So was SOD, but everyone hated the raid so much the gear is probably despised via association

[chrome falcon]

obviously with like 60 sets there are gonna be 2 or 3 that are good

but on the whole nah

[cinder nova]

You mean across like cloth to plate?

[chrome falcon]

yeah

[cinder nova]

Yeah there was a lot of hot garbage floating around this expansion. Especially greens/blues/dungeon gear. You know what I miss a lot of? Unique item appearances that only come from one item in a specific dungeon.

They had a fair shake of that in Cata, especially just End Times.

[sick sentinel]

I mainly hated it cause of those domination shards and having to farm them

Shit was wack

[cinder nova]

Same reason I hate the deathwing-looking legion shield

I just associate it with babydick grey parsers that fall over on basic mechanics

[chrome falcon]

you don't like the hidden shield from legion?

wow

guess we're fighting

[dawn canyon]

CN myth plate is insanely good

[chrome falcon]

yeah my first plan for dragonflight is to go get CN mythic

for sure

[dawn canyon]

this would be so much better with CM gear and now im sad

[cinder nova]

CN plate in general was pretty nice. You can do a lot with it as it introduced a lot of new shapes and geography to plate armor.

So you can toss them into sets

[median tulip]

SoD was a terrible, terrible raid

[sick sentinel]

Attaching a cosmetic to shitty players you run into doesn't make the shield any less good

[median tulip]

CN was the best raid this expansion.

[sick sentinel]

I'd have to agree

[median tulip]

CN had the best fights, the best voice acting, the best layout

[cinder nova]

I wonder how many people will spend their three tokens on stuff from SOD just to avoid ever having to do it again

[chrome falcon]

sepulchre was almost a 10/10 raid but the difficulty is so out of whack

[sick sentinel]

More nerfs coming

[cinder nova]

At least compared to CN

It was definitely tuned way up

[dawn canyon]

CN mirrors

are the best

[median tulip]

I don't mind SotFO, but the fights are far less interesting becuase it's all just robots. Nathria had far better personality

[chrome falcon]

anduin and rygo are probably the 2 best fights this expansion

[cinder nova]

Getting multiple 100 pull mythic bosses in WF race

is like

whacky

[median tulip]

and the secret passageway

[cinder nova]

I dunno, I like M Sko

But that's probably because I can just sorta mentally check out and hammer the boss

[dawn canyon]

M sko is so aids with u have many melee

[cinder nova]

Just dps

How?

[dawn canyon]

infinte puddles

someone premoves

[cinder nova]

Just don't stand near them

[dawn canyon]

everyone is fucked

[cinder nova]

kekw

[dawn canyon]

i dps in raid

[cinder nova]

oh, sucks to be a mediocre raid role

Melee DPS

Yeesh

[cinder nova]

Is there any worse place to be in a raid

[vernal vale]

Talking about u ique weapons

[cinder nova]

Training sword omegalul

[sick sentinel]

Blizzard can't afford to release another mediocre expansion, but then again wow players will eat whatever goop blizzard shits out

[vernal vale]

It's a fun weapon that so many people have 0 idea about

[cinder nova]

Listen, listen.

[dawn canyon]

darkmoon hammer>>>

[vernal vale]

Darkmoon hammer is lol

[cinder nova]

fury dual-wield that giant priest staff with all the glowy bits

[dawn canyon]

key to the planes

[cinder nova]

Staff of immaculate recovery

[dawn canyon]

[cinder nova]

And then go do 3s

Just slaughterhouse people with that and some pool shorts kekw

[chrome falcon]

i would kill for an HD key to the planes

and an HD whirlwind axe

playing classic reminded me how sick that thing looks

[dawn canyon]

black ice also funny af

[cinder nova]

It's also that they're major milestone weapons that can be hard-won. They aren't particularly good-looking, frankly, but WW axe was so major that it's been pretty imbeded as a fondly-looking upon item

You don't see that kind of stuff anymore

They've diluted their leveling process to severely from then that nothing like it has emerged

[vernal vale]

WW axe was so cool

I use this for my fury mog

[cinder nova]

HM polearm is always good

[dawn canyon]

the dk cm set?

[vernal vale]

Just the weapon

[dawn canyon]

idk i think the big red sword is better

but the polearm

[vernal vale]

I'm not at home I cannot screen cap my fury set

I really like a bunch of the gold challenge mode weapons

Used the shifting felblade for tanking a lot

[dawn canyon]

use mop CM with wod polearm imo

[vernal vale]

If only I had done the MoP challenge modes. Took a break most of that expac and missed out.

[dawn canyon]

im a sl baby so the only cool shit i have is s2 elite

and that set isnt really cool

got all ABT weps tho

[toxic pewter]

I only wear lfr gear

[dawn canyon]

im wearing gear older than my youngest brother

[toxic pewter]

He play wow too

[dawn canyon]

yes but he only farms mounts

[toxic pewter]

Lol

[dawn canyon]

mr i have all korthia mounts

[toxic pewter]

Not bad way too play

To be honest

Lol

[dawn canyon]

idk man he doesnt have a 4p on his main

[toxic pewter]

lol

[dawn canyon]

im 36 ilvl up or smth at this point

pretty dumb

[toxic pewter]

Wow is such a different game to so many different people

It’s actually amazing

One man’s shitty way to play is another’s most fun way to play

[dawn canyon]

i mean i have mounts but i dont go out of my way to get them

unless they are cool

[toxic pewter]

Ya

I still need to get that green mount from plaguefall

I’m too lazy apparently

[dawn canyon]

this was zinrhok hunting for instance

[toxic pewter]

I have that one

Love that mount to be honest

[dawn canyon]

the small ones with the same model as raven lord are good

[toxic pewter]

Ya raven lord model is fire

[dawn canyon]

cba farming flametalon th

o

[toxic pewter]

I do a Vulpera pirate transmog with bfa bird mount from freehold

[dawn canyon]

i want the kings rest one but i dont do it a lot

[toxic pewter]

I never got that one

I also would like it though

[toxic pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-warcraft-me-in-front-of-a-computer-gif-13604531

That me

[urban portal]

Is this still obtainable

[sweet summit]

isn't that CM weapon?

[toxic pewter]

Ya where is that from I want that

[strong forum]

Can't get any of that set or weapon

[toxic pewter]

Damn

[dawn canyon]

You can get the tabard

[vernal vale]

Nope it is not, gold challenge modes in warlords

[toxic pewter]

Warlords had some bad ass looking gear

[sick sentinel]

literally me

[toxic pewter]

Yes that us

https://tenor.com/view/ronnie-coleman-prot-warrior-tbc-wow-chad-class-gif-24723206

That me preparing to do +8 (highest I been is +6 so far)

[sweet summit]

[dawn canyon]

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[dawn canyon]

Such a fucking good Screenshot

[strong forum]

contextually speaking soda isnt wrong

[open bluff]

iirc warriors in south park stick of truth can actually use dildos as weapons

[toxic pewter]

That the same guy who wouldn’t even do a tank off when I challenged him and he threatening me with a dildo. He is weak.

[open bluff]

or maybe they're upgrades, been several years

[cobalt seal]

look

apb is back

to his 1 of 3 real him

[toxic pewter]

I will crush him. I almost goin do +8 soon after more training.

[cobalt seal]

I lost track

how many of him are there

[toxic pewter]

I successfully completed a +6- granted I was 1 hour 43 minutes “over time” but I got it done.

I lead my team to victory.

[strong forum]

cant tell if youre being serious or not

[toxic pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[cobalt seal]

I would bet serious

[toxic pewter]

Based on my +6 performance, I have been invited to do a +8- currently scheduled for a week from Thursday

It’s a solid guild group.

They liked what they saw

[waxen orbit]

Sorry backreading; are you saying I should TC more? Not asking defensively, asking genuinely

[strong forum]

ya ok now youre laying it on a bit thick there m8

[toxic pewter]

Well

I am in training currently

[waxen orbit]

I successfully completed a +6- granted I was 1 hour 43 minutes “over time” but I got it done.

[strong forum]

nah, its CLEARLY working out for you, cuz the numbers are proof.
but theoretically speaking, outburst TC is worth to press every now and again

[cobalt seal]

That didn't last a day

[strong forum]

i myself overuse TC still a bit cuz i feel weird spamming revenge so much

[waxen orbit]

Ahhh okay; no yeah, I press outburst TC usually when I need to kite (which is pretty rare, but usually happens when you get a 5x bolstered mob slapping your dick )

[toxic pewter]

You guys if you could rename a single prot warrior ability. What would it be and what would your new name be.

[cobalt seal]

apb to I'm a troll

[toxic pewter]

I would change revenge- rename it to swipey

[strong forum]

id change revenge and its visual

[waxen orbit]

Shield Slam to Thwump

[toxic pewter]

Oh that’s good

Damn that’s really good to be honest

[toxic pewter]

Yes agreed revenge seems weird to me

[waxen orbit]

I don't get why it's called revenge

[strong forum]

cuz it used to be a proc

[toxic pewter]

Ya

[strong forum]

based on parrying/dodging

[waxen orbit]

Ohhhhhh right

[strong forum]

and ST only

but oh BOY would it slap

[toxic pewter]

Can only use when procced

[strong forum]

you could literally 2 shot rogues in pvp with it

[toxic pewter]

Dang

[strong forum]

rogue pops parry, you hit him with the revenge

or am i confusing it with overpower rn

its been a hot minute

[toxic pewter]

Overpower cannot be blocked dodged or parried

[strong forum]

ya

[toxic pewter]

Dude

[strong forum]

and it procced off of that

[toxic pewter]

We should get overpower wat you think

Or would that just not work

[strong forum]

i just want a fun aoe ability that slaps

one that slaps because it slaps, not because we spam it

[toxic pewter]

Would you like revenge to go back to a proc but still remain aoe

[pallid quiver]

revenge was like that if you got improved revenge in wotlk at low levels

[toxic pewter]

And does heavy dmg

[pallid quiver]

it just scaled like ass with actual gear

[strong forum]

ya in wrath my war was lvl 58 pvp alt

could 1shot people with revenge

[pallid quiver]

Hell yeah it could

Prot War best DPS low levels

[vernal vale]

Prot warrior in battle grounds during wrath was a blast.

Shield slam people for thier entire health pool.

[strong forum]

especially if you took northrend gear into sub 70 bgs

cuz you min maxed questing from 68 to 69.9

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhv_yFMuwxs

better with lyrics in this case

[vernal vale]

You where also incredibly tough to kill. Only thing I worried about where frost mages. They could kite you. Endlessly.

Warlocks spell reflect and watch them kill themselves

[strong forum]

and stoneform being an 8sec immunity to debuffs

so DKs did literally 0 dmg

[vernal vale]

Disarm the blood dk and watch them fall over