protection

[jagged pier]

[ionic fern]

I'm definitely not.

I'm not helping anyone.

[jagged pier]

I rember the mohawk

no ones gunna convice me it was a beam

[ionic fern]

I'm not denying nor confirming that.

[jagged pier]

👀

[blazing condor]

nah mohawk mwahi

is canon

[modern brook]

Mwahi is literally an anagram of ihawm which is clearly an acronym for "i have a weal mohawk"

[lime urchin]

[ionic fern]

Can't believe you figured it out. And here i thought i was hiding it well.

😦

[modern brook]

U are fwiw I'm just a God tier slueth

[sick sentinel]

https://youtu.be/-kWeB4IJ7sA?t=307 "Maybe.... maybe he is a god.... can he overcome them? alone?"

[blazing condor]

dog backwards is god

maybe god has a mohawk too

[sick sentinel]

my thoughts on god and religion are beyond your comprehension

[cerulean tusk]

[sick sentinel]

i started 2004/5 wow as a ret paladi FWIW

[robust rover]

Why did you swap Warrior?

[sick sentinel]

wasn't really my account, someone else played it so they deletd the paladin, went rogue before bc launched stayed that till start of wod, some point picked up pwar

i did like, uh, 70+ levels on discpriest or pwar one of the 2 in less than 24 hrs by just stay in dungeon, stay buffed, stay attacking shit

[modern brook]

Imagine being defined by your mistakes in 2004

Why he swapped doesn't matter

What's important is that he's past his sins

[blazing condor]

i wonder how many people in here are younger than WoW

[sick sentinel]

this was a very early case of "don't give your password to anybody"

i mean, we all have stories about that though, someone gets into one of your accounts or guild banks and BAM take everything

[kind spruce]

at what ilvl will warrior feel decently tanky around

[lofty widget]

depends what content youre doing?

[kind spruce]

M+ atm 12 ish level

[lofty widget]

like 230-40?

ppl were doing 20s @ 250 ilvl this season so should be more than fine

[modern brook]

General rule of thumb is that if thr gear you get at the end of the dungeon is an ilvl upgrade of like - 5-10 you're in content you should be able to do without being scared for your life

Lots of variation in that

[kind spruce]

yeh im still in gearing process of this alt the gear isnt in great place

[strong forum]

I don't wanna know

[modern brook]

9/10 youre probably playing wrong tbh

Lots of prot keys is knowing your pulls

And that's assuming you're actually hitting the rotation right for proper rage gen

[kind spruce]

most likely not atm have not ran enough on it to be that smooth lol

[modern brook]

Yah logs and videos :^)

Ppl will be glad to review them for you

[blazing condor]

sewer pickle pt2

[modern brook]

:0

I don't even play anymore

[blazing condor]

who does

[modern brook]

Nom

[kind spruce]

probly post later wanna at least get my tier set

[modern brook]

Ppl == nom

[sick sentinel]

i can't read logs for shit, exact same problem i had with account class

and coding

[blazing condor]

there's a video on it for pwarrs 🙂

[modern brook]

Reading logs is easy

[sick sentinel]

its like im looking at chinese mutliplied by spanish

[modern brook]

Just learn Shpinese then

[sick sentinel]

i'm liking the wow analyzer, even though it says "use sharpening/blunt on your shield (offhand)"

[urban portal]

then do it

[sick sentinel]

shield niether blunt or sharp enough to get the effects, tried both

[gray iris]

hey guys in dos... how do you manage that huge pack with inspiring just before entering that ardenwield pack....Shadowcore that i cant interrupt kills me

and it takes ages to move the whole pack to the urn

any ideas?

[blazing condor]

usually you can just nuke it fast

otherwise just CC it

[gray iris]

can we trap it using hunter spell?

[jagged pier]

Where talent tree

[blazing condor]

dont remember what mob it is that's inspiring but yeah hunter trap should work

[lofty widget]

you can trap the inspired mob, not the shadowcore mob

[jagged pier]

Just full beans and trust in yourself not to die

[gray iris]

if the mob is trapped and i throw ravager...will that break the trap?

[lofty widget]

yes it will

any dmg breaks cc

except lock banish (which doesnt work on that mob) and the engi trap

[gray iris]

fuck then i will have to move the pack somehow

[lofty widget]

you can engage the pack then run down the stairs where the urn is

they should get in range to get stunned thatway

[gray iris]

can i like heroic throw and wait for them to come near me?

[lofty widget]

heroic throw the shadowcore guy, then run down the stairs ye

you have to outrange them tho, otherwise theyre gonna start casting

[gray iris]

but what if i lose aggro

[lofty widget]

then your dps are stupid

can tell them beforehand

[gray iris]

oh okay

but doing heavy dps will break the cc

[lofty widget]

you wont be near the cc'ed mob so thats not a concern

[rich spruce]

Hey guys I am trying to get better with tanking and wanted to know if there was a macro for intervene to get the most out of the reprisal legendary.

[dawn canyon]

well a mouseover macro helps

[rich spruce]

Alright. Do you happen to know what mouseover macro is good for that?

[sick sentinel]

died twice in mists 3 to gravity physics trap after boss 2 , someone asked so i told them i failed at physics class they said is okay they can TA me

[toxic pewter]

u guys think dragonflight talent tree today?

[dawn canyon]

no

[toxic pewter]

y

[dawn canyon]

why would it be today

[cobalt seal]

He is on copium

[ocean yoke]

already came out bro you missed it

[jagged pier]

Sure some in here

[lofty widget]

[onyx vessel]

Tank chat talking about a new class that isnt a tank

[sick sentinel]

yeah, cuz as if NOBODY was talking about the dks when wrath announced too lol

or monks

[onyx vessel]

Tank spec

[sick sentinel]

new healer, we somewhat require healer to function correctly

this is pertinent to us

[onyx vessel]

Do we?

[sick sentinel]

they need us as much as we need them

[onyx vessel]

I mean venthyr prot needs a healer

Cant hold threat

[sick sentinel]

venthyr prot warrior actually inting on tyranical SD, due to final boss

probably really good for bosses you have to deleted on the pull, like the boss 2 of SD

[lofty widget]

nah necro still better

[toxic pewter]

Cannot wait for these 'copium' 'hopium' words get left to history

truly awful meme needs to die already

[sick sentinel]

i feel like venthyr prot has potential on multi boss fights, like uh, streets or TOP are examples

not that its good but it has potential cuz you have more execute options and to start with for instance

[toxic pewter]

careful, saying you support venthyr warrior here can get you in deep trouble

[lofty widget]

except venthyr doesnt have the rage gen to just mindlessly spam condemn

[urban portal]

venthyr also does less execute damage than necro

and less ST

[sick sentinel]

that amazes me how you can have a smaller execute with the covenant that buffs the execute

[lofty widget]

they dont have perma 22 % STR 🙂

[toxic pewter]

you can use it for 20% more health situations though

[urban portal]

the 100-80 is the niche that venthyr has

[urban portal]

not having a nerfed ashen jug also helps

[toxic pewter]

what exactly is the nerf for ashen jug when venthyr

[urban portal]

you gain like 40% less crit chance

yeah half

[toxic pewter]

WOW

the word disgrace comes to mind seeing that

[lofty widget]

horrible cov, but fun ability tho

hope we get a condemn glyph in 10.0 or something

[ocean yoke]

yeah its a shame since condemn looks and sounds cool as hell

[sick sentinel]

there is something so very wrong to me about that, that the execute buffing thing, does a shittier job of execute for less damage

[urban portal]

condemn could literally be a first row talent

[lofty widget]

it doesnt buff execute ho

[urban portal]

it used to

until 9.1

[lofty widget]

it just lets you use it at 100-80

[sick sentinel]

like, i won't lose sleep on it but ... best to just ignore it

[urban portal]

and yeah its a big misconception it siginificantly buffs execute

[toxic pewter]

I think it would be awesome if venthyr was actually competitive somehow

[urban portal]

it needs a lot of be competitive for prot warrior

its already fine on fury

arms is eh

[sick sentinel]

whats the sudden death or something execute RNG any time for free

[toxic pewter]

I heard we will see talent tree today

[sick sentinel]

if you are prot, you get this as leggo

[urban portal]

sudden death is useless

[toxic pewter]

So maybe it will be on there

[urban portal]

again yogi, anything that buffs condemn also buffs execute

so the status quo will not change

[alpine shard]

im not sure if venthyr is even the strongest execute spec for fury anymore either

depends on how long the execute phase lasts i guess

[toxic pewter]

What other specs have an execute these days

[urban portal]

you think necro is higher?

[sick sentinel]

tons

[urban portal]

unholy is the #1 execute class

[alpine shard]

but if banner takes up a significant portion of execute phase i think necro has higher potential execute yeah

[toxic pewter]

unholy seems fun

[urban portal]

but my point is that venthyr isnt flawed like it is for arms

and prot

[sick sentinel]

tons and tons of specs have execute 90% of specs have a (hit something at low hp/kill it get a boon) effect

[urban portal]

for arms it effectively replaces slam

[toxic pewter]

I still feel like warrior should be the premiere execute class

[urban portal]

for fury it actively generates more resource during the relevant phases

[toxic pewter]

but I guess I am biased

[urban portal]

and being able to cleave it to 5 on demand

[alpine shard]

i mean we literally have the ability the phase is named after

[urban portal]

"soul reaper phase"

[alpine shard]

i agree we should have the highest execute damage

[urban portal]

😄

[toxic pewter]

what warrior spec is the strongest executor

[alpine shard]

prot

[toxic pewter]

is it arms? or prot even?

[minor helm]

Yeah but that's cause of legendary

[toxic pewter]

yeah

[lofty widget]

[sick sentinel]

arms can be okay at execute too

[minor helm]

Arms execute chunks

[toxic pewter]

fury or arms which is better executer

arms right?

[minor helm]

As is now?

[alpine shard]

probably arms especially after the buffs

[minor helm]

Fury

Arms still isn't going to execute with eb

[toxic pewter]

interesting there is differing opinions

[alpine shard]

i mean fury doesnt execute during reck either

[sick sentinel]

MM hunter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aimevcEOV9A

[alpine shard]

actually i guess if you're talented into massacre and using juggernaut execute may be higher prio than crushing blow

[urban portal]

well fury venthyr execute>any form of arms execute

[alpine shard]

im pretty sure necro specced for execute damage does better execute than venthyr

[urban portal]

yeah idk anything about necro so i didnt say

but arms execute was a 8% dps up

vs a regular sim

idk how much fury was

[jagged pier]

Looking at sense and the top fury and top ish arms warrior

[toxic pewter]

I just hope they dont give an execute to any other tank (I know pally has one already)

[jagged pier]

They all do around 22k in last phase of jailer

[urban portal]

wait yeah

prot is #1 execute

i forgot

[sweet summit]

[jagged pier]

From sense team the ehance and and unholy dk did more

[urban portal]

arms and fury both got nothing

[urban portal]

isnt that just natty enh damage

[alpine shard]

arms got an execute buff too

[jagged pier]

Well arms also got the buff

[toxic pewter]

y enh do so much damage

[urban portal]

but arms also uses it less rotationally

[jagged pier]

Seems like all 3 warrior specs do around the same in execute phase if playing correctly

[alpine shard]

but that's without being specced into execute damage

if you specifically needed execute damage only, who would do more damage

also looks like venthyr is ahead of necro for fury at least for a 1.5min execute

[toxic pewter]

I think giving prot warrior execute may go down as one of the best changes blizz has ever done in wow

[alpine shard]

when did prot not have execute?

ithought they always had it

[jagged pier]

Last expansion

[alpine shard]

weird

[toxic pewter]

just got it in shadowlands

[jagged pier]

No we had it before

[toxic pewter]

never had it before that

No no

[urban portal]

arms get 8.1% in execute

[alpine shard]

at 1 minute necro is ahead of venthyr for execute

[jagged pier]

Dude ive played this game since vanilla we had it for ages it left in bfa or lefion cant remebrr which but we had it in wod and mists and before that

[urban portal]

kyrian fury gets 6.8%

[alpine shard]

so yeah, looks like longer execute favours venthyr and shorter ones favour necro

[urban portal]

prot warrior doubles

[jagged pier]

Just had to be in the correcy stance

[toxic pewter]

they took it away in legion ya

[jagged pier]

So we did have it before

[minor helm]

If they took it away that means you had it

[jagged pier]

So your statement is wrong

[minor helm]

[alpine shard]

also interestingly the highest simming conduit combo for necro fury execute does not include juggernaut

[toxic pewter]

in history of wow

[jagged pier]

Exepct for we did because use talented Sudden death in wod and mists

🤔

[minor helm]

Where's the "is this your wallet" SpongeBob meme

[urban portal]

hack+depth+banner?

[alpine shard]

yeah

[urban portal]

interesting

[dawn canyon]

how abt venthyr

[urban portal]

id imagine you need a line to not drop ashen

arms has a conditional to never drop ashen

but fury doesnt

[alpine shard]

oh yeah true, it doesnt prio execute

[urban portal]

venthyr runs hack and ashen

[alpine shard]

yeah

[toxic pewter]

Yes I am wrong, we lost execute sometime in legion or BFA like you said

I am saying when they brought it back that was a great move

I stand corrected

[sweet summit]

[ionic fern]

[minor helm]

[toxic pewter]

Wat those

[ionic fern]

Images

[toxic pewter]

You mocking me

[ionic fern]

It's up to you how to interpret them

[toxic pewter]

I will remember these slights.

[ionic fern]

[alpine shard]

[toxic pewter]

You have made a new enemy this day

[ionic fern]

Finally.

I've been trying to make enemies for so long

I'm just too damn likable.

[alpine shard]

im so happy for you mwahi

i hope you will continue to make many enemies on your way

[grave crane]

That’s easy just diss subcreation

[onyx vessel]

subcreation

[toxic pewter]

Hello fellow A tier's

[ionic fern]

[grave crane]

Is that not the name of the site idk

[onyx vessel]

thought we were F tier

[toxic pewter]

WE OVERTOOK PROT PALLY AGAIN

no we A now

[onyx vessel]

in most peoples eyes we are

[toxic pewter]

https://mplus.subcreation.net/

[onyx vessel]

[toxic pewter]

i want to see u all take over brewmaster

[ionic fern]

As long as most people think we are bad it's fine.

[toxic pewter]

we can actually do it

they are not far ahead

[ionic fern]

Being sleeper OP is the best.

[alpine shard]

not when you're pugging

[onyx vessel]

apb thats the worst example of tanks

[toxic pewter]

168.32 BM 164.03 prot warr. we are only 4 points away

[grave crane]

Shit as long as I’m having fun idc people in my guild think I’m “breaking the meta” if only they knew

[toxic pewter]

wat u mean

[ionic fern]

Idk. Getting into your avg pug and out dps'ing your DPSers is fun

[onyx vessel]

figure it out

[alpine shard]

my favourite one i saw recently was "prot warrior is tanky it just doesnt do damage"

[grave crane]

It’s lots of fun when they go huh prot dps is kinda thick

[onyx vessel]

cuz you got prot warriors doing 2k dps

[toxic pewter]

[onyx vessel]

and floor pov

[ionic fern]

That's on me. I'm running UF and spamming TC so people don't think we're good.

[toxic pewter]

All I am saying is if we all pump it till tuesday we can actually overtake brewmaster

[onyx vessel]

[ionic fern]

[grave crane]

Bro it’s called unstoppable force. Why wouldn’t I take it

[onyx vessel]

i did a key had 28% SB uptime

[ionic fern]

Jeha. And Never Surrender.

[onyx vessel]

[grave crane]

Can’t surrender if your dead

Wish that talent wasn’t dogshit

[ionic fern]

That takes effort.

[onyx vessel]

always has been dogshit

blizzard never wanted to fix it

balance it makes IP reduce 90% instead of 50%

fixed

[grave crane]

I’m excited for the trees whenever they come out

[onyx vessel]

[grave crane]

Or just don’t give it a cap

[onyx vessel]

bad idea

you tanking raid

[toxic pewter]

We gonna be able to get bolster/AM/HR all at same time

[onyx vessel]

taunt swap with 1m ip shield

[grave crane]

Yeah b st idea ever

[onyx vessel]

legion days

brb afk 7m ip shield

[sick sentinel]

i have idea

[sick sentinel]

this, but add valor run rankings

[toxic pewter]

wat valor run rankings

[onyx vessel]

easy S tier

[toxic pewter]

oh running for valor

got it

[onyx vessel]

basically all tanks in there but BDK

[sick sentinel]

what i mean is dungeon ease/loot/speed which u can run it

[onyx vessel]

wheelchair

[toxic pewter]

gotcha

[sick sentinel]

cuz, u can 100% run a +3 mists in like 12 minutes without even doing any buttons

[onyx vessel]

go slappy hands

[alpine shard]

so adding a line to not drop ashen made it sim higher than the other options, but just making execute higher than crushing blow altogether when talented into massacre was an even bigger dps gain

[sick sentinel]

so, it'd be nice to know which ones of those are easiest

[toxic pewter]

today we gonna see more df talent trees

[onyx vessel]

really doesnt matter as long as you got pure dmg in those

[toxic pewter]

i have a cousin she work at blizzard she say more coming today

[onyx vessel]

what hinders us is how many bad prot warriors exist

[alpine shard]

nice

[onyx vessel]

honestly more than any other tank spec

[urban portal]

cool so hypothetically prot>fury>arms in execute then

[alpine shard]

im pretty sure there are more bad blood dks right now than there are prot warriors altogether

[cinder storm]

Have you pugged any locks?

[sick sentinel]

its a tough spec to play too i think, i think many prot warriors are extremely hard or soft minded

[alpine shard]

nah it still didnt come close to venthyr execute for longer execute phases

[urban portal]

ye but i simmed with kyrian and it was close

so fury should>arms in execute if venth/nec

[sick sentinel]

i don't think there is any inbetween if you play pwar, i fthink your all in or not at all with it and both work

[toxic pewter]

We all come back to the pwarr eventually cuz it is like a drug

[alpine shard]

my character with venthyr fury 5 minute execute was 18.5k which was pretty much the same as the arms one in your picture

[toxic pewter]

a drug called speed

[onyx vessel]

[alpine shard]

but since my character isnt bis geared i guess fury has better execute yeah

[onyx vessel]

gains rage

[dark lark]

The fotm spec will always have more bad players than good ones, just kinda how it works

[onyx vessel]

probably why condemn has been nerfed like 3 times for fury

[alpine shard]

didnt condemn only get nerfed once during beta?

it wasnt even the best execute covenant in 9.0

[onyx vessel]

1 time in beta then early on

so 2

sorry

pretty obvious why it got nerfed in beta

was worth hitting it over rampage

[alpine shard]

it is right now too

i see 2 nerfs, 1 to the absorb and 1 to the damage

[onyx vessel]

[alpine shard]

i miss when condemn was strong

[onyx vessel]

idk havent gone venthyr in a while

plus venthyr prot is actually inting

[alpine shard]

sadge

[onyx vessel]

[alpine shard]

but necro gameplay is fun

[onyx vessel]

had someone say spear gameplay was boring and AA is more fun

[alpine shard]

pressing 1 button every 40 seconds is boring but pressing one every 1.5 minutes is fun

[onyx vessel]

cuz it knocks down

rage loss

[alpine shard]

lol

just pull more than 5 mobs

if not everything gets knocked down you'll still generate rage

[onyx vessel]

spear + seismic

[alpine shard]

it's kinda funny how if you're playing niya or dw you may as well aftershock before you cooldowns to get the buff because only doing damage to 5 targets is whatever in a 20 target pull

[onyx vessel]

wait its capped

[alpine shard]

you didnt know that?

[distant crystal]

AA knockdown would be kinda cracked on unlimited targets

[sick sentinel]

should i do afe or phial to 272 first, i have both in bags, afe equipped at 259, phial 255

i'm specced fury/arms outside of vaults to get a weapon/other loot

[drifting fable]

phial

[dawn canyon]

AA rage gen feels amazeballs

[onyx vessel]

banner rage gen

makes AA a joke

[dawn canyon]

I enjoy AA

Swoosh

[onyx vessel]

eh if you like being a tree hugger

atleast you arent venthyr

[dawn canyon]

I was venthyr for a long time

I still like em

[onyx vessel]

so was i

[pallid finch]

Besides Thunderclap, what are our other Rage generators?

[onyx vessel]

halfway through 9.1.5

[dawn canyon]

Venth>NF>kyr is my Cove history

[onyx vessel]

then i went fae

same

[dawn canyon]

Shieldslam charge autoattacks and reprisal

Also Banner and Avatar but on a longer cd

[drifting fable]

DS if you run BV

[pallid finch]

Thank you!

[onyx vessel]

you dont get rage from autos

[drifting fable]

and last stand

with the conduit

incredibly huge rage gen

[dawn canyon]

Fury and arms do so i assume prot also does

[onyx vessel]

increases rage gen doesnt give rage

[drifting fable]

true, ^

[dawn canyon]

Oh and you get rage by getting hit although that's negligable

[drifting fable]

my bad

but i just conflate the two haha

[onyx vessel]

getting hit, demo shout(talented), avatar, SS, thunderclap,charge,intervene(with reprisal)

[onyx vessel]

its actually not

[dawn canyon]

Well i dont pay attention to it

[jagged pier]

3 rage per second

or from damage should say

[onyx vessel]

so like 5 rage per second with last stand

[jagged pier]

banner also gens rage

dont forget

[onyx vessel]

so does spear AA and banner

[dawn canyon]

Condemn generates edgelord energy

[onyx vessel]

generates floorpov

[dawn canyon]

Fine for most content but far worse

[drifting fable]

ravager as well

unless youre not in combat for tick 1

[dawn canyon]

Rav charge

[onyx vessel]

edgelord gameplay is using signet

[dawn canyon]

I mean i main dps so i usually do that

[onyx vessel]

try seismic

[dawn canyon]

As fury

That's like ≈6k overall dam lost

[sick sentinel]

thats the wrong one, but i did that too, figured might as well give it a go

[dawn canyon]

I cant read that

[onyx vessel]

click on it open original

readable

[onyx vessel]

[dawn canyon]

Phone gaming

[dawn canyon]

I barely have 4 291s and you have this....

[onyx vessel]

[dawn canyon]

At least I can play diablo immoral

[onyx vessel]

[sick sentinel]

Turning players into payers

[wet pine]

Does anyone have advice on demo shout timing for Jailer Shattering Blast? I feel like if I use it when he is casting it, it wont be off CD for the next blast. and if I use it before he starts casting it sometimes falls off before the blast hits me

[lofty widget]

cant say for mythic, but on heroic i found that SR+IP was enough to survive

and you can call for externals as well

you should be using BV for raid anyway, so you wanna press demo on cd for the rage

[shut summit]

can pretty reliably get 3/4 of them (i do 1/3/6/8 tank blasts) without holding the CD

tank blast 1/3/8 are ones it mostly lines up for

[fallow osprey]

i've set up game capture with OBS and have logging set up as well - is there a way to sync my recording with my log?

[feral tartan]

Hey! 🙂 So I've seen some of you play with Reprisal and some with The Wall legendary...is it situational or just personal pref? What would you recommend a freshly baked Prot Warri?

[lofty widget]

reprisal is the best for all content outside 1 or 2 niche bosses in the raid. its a bit harder to get used to than the wall (ie you have to charge-weave and intervene on cd) but it really pays off

[feral tartan]

Thank you! which dlot should i aim for? Boots?

[lofty widget]

yup, with haste/vers

[feral tartan]

Thank you for your advice!

[drifting juniper]

GUys

hello

have anyone recently farmed protection artifact appereance

the hidden one

if so, is it like legion or is it easier

[chrome falcon]

i don't understand your question

are you asking about the hidden appearance

or the mage tower

[drifting juniper]

hidden appereance

[strong forum]

its harder cuz its a 1day CD per character

[chrome falcon]

you get one chance a day glhf set your hearth near the cave 🙂

[strong forum]

if that somehow can be quantified as difficulty

[drifting juniper]

damn

at daily reset then in the morning?

[chrome falcon]

its always been like that

apart from like the first week of legion

or whenever it came out

[drifting juniper]

yeah but i am new to warrior and i wanted to see if it still had prequisies

[strong forum]

na its just a daily chance

[drifting juniper]

my wrarrior is also leveled so i was wondering if i need to do anything

[chrome falcon]

no prereqs i think

[drifting juniper]

recently leveled

[strong forum]

to be save, should atleast have the artifact weapon

[chrome falcon]

i was up until like 5am relogging the first day it came out

worth

[strong forum]

but nothing else needed

[chrome falcon]

oh yeah you'll need to unlock your artifact for sure

[drifting juniper]

yeah yeah i did that

[strong forum]

took me like 30min when it finally was available

i spammed reload on the wowhead comments every day

[drifting juniper]

i will put my vulpera camp there

[tardy sequoia]

pulsating riftshard trinket any good?

[dawn canyon]

is that the one from hungering?

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[drifting juniper]

do i need it equiped to see the emote btw? i just had it in my bag

[strong forum]

terrible trinket

[tardy sequoia]

just got it from the timewalking

guess was unlucky then lol

[strong forum]

to be safe

just fly down into the cave

and check the piles of gold

the emote can sometimes not proc, despite the item being spawned

[drifting juniper]

i did all those things but my artifact wwasn't equipped

i want to go there and try again

[strong forum]

you dont need to have it equipped

its just rng

[dawn canyon]

are you a degen like me and have multiple warriors?

if so thats your chance

[drifting juniper]

No its my first one

[dawn canyon]

[strong forum]

if you want multiple chances per day

create trial characters as high mountain tauren

[drifting juniper]

yeah but that gives me the base tint no?

i can't get other colors

[strong forum]

you need the base tint to get the other colours

[dawn canyon]

you need the base to get the rest

[drifting juniper]

confused

[strong forum]

?

[dawn canyon]

step 1) get scale

step 2) get more colors

[drifting juniper]

i mean if i get it on class trial of high mountain tauren

i only get the transmog for my otheer warrior right?

not the tint

[strong forum]

?

you get everything

for every warrior

[dawn canyon]

the artifact shit is for all of the class

[strong forum]

its account wide

not character specific

[dawn canyon]

Got this on war1 and am currently on war2

for example

[strong forum]

doesnt matter which character you unlock it on

you can use it on every single warrior

[drifting juniper]

ok i got it

so i only make high mountain tauren and go there?

[strong forum]

trial character*

[chrome falcon]

if you can actually be bothered

[drifting juniper]

ah does it mean i have to do the skyhold quest on all of them

?

[strong forum]

start a highmountain trial character, get your artifact and then you can check the cave

and you get 4 more tries per day

instead of just your main

[drifting juniper]

nah i just put my vulpera camp there and teleport to it once a day

thanks for all the info guys

[strong forum]

sure

[drifting juniper]

this discord is better than the Dh discord

[chrome falcon]

that's not hard

[sick sentinel]

back to duty in the valor mines 💀, oh i did the thing again, showed wrong item, same ilvl 249, but have to lvl another one IG

[toxic pewter]

That’s wat she said

[wild hemlock]

sad

[onyx vessel]

Warrior discord is better then the rest.

[strong forum]

[echo egret]

Am I dreaming or the trash before 1st boss in Streets can deal some punishing damage ?

[strong forum]

That's the hardest part of the dungeon

[echo egret]

Yeah after that it’s faceroll

Oh and my MDT route was saying 99.66% trash but in game it was 100%

[onyx vessel]

Nice stream

[echo egret]

It’s always confusing

[strong forum]

Thx

[onyx matrix]

500 more rep then im finally revered.😂

[strong forum]

If you didn't do jailer quest yet, that's like 2k rep

[onyx matrix]

I did dw

Just have to wait patiently

[median tulip]

You basically just need to not stand in the beams; everything else there is pretty easy

[echo egret]

I died on +22 last night without taking any damage from beam.
Hard light baton, Radiant pulse, Hyperlight bolts...

[median tulip]

Hyperlight Bolt is interruptible

Oh wait, it's inspiring this week isn't it?

[jagged pier]

theres really not that many in the start

or at all in streets tbh

if u go left

[echo egret]

It is, yes, but when you’re in a pug without voice comms, and there are other important stuff to interrupt, not all hyper light bolts get interrupted on large pulls

(And I’m only speaking of the trash before 1st boss, I always go left)

[median tulip]

Yeah, the first area is basically the only trash that matters

The Core Hounds are a fun call back though

[echo egret]

To people doing extremely high (28+) keys : do you completely control and coordinate kicks and AoE stuns ?

[strong forum]

They do, yes

For every single mob pack they assign prio kicks and stun rotations

And have a shotcaller calling all kicks and cc

[echo egret]

That’s what I thought

[blazing condor]

You kinda have to

Also No reason not to

[candid niche]

I haven't really looked into the DK/druid trees cause I don't really know the spec but I have a question do the defensives show up in the class trees or the spec specific trees ?

Just had a passing thought that it'd be pretty nutty if the dps warrior defensives make it into the class tree cause then you could run DbtS as prot

[undone verge]

This took me a whole day because some absolutely massive parses exist in lfr for prot warrior for some reason

Like 14k on lords, 11k on rygelon

And just the fact trying to log lfr is a whole challenge on itself

[heady latch]

Is the First Sigil a good trinket?

[undone verge]

For prot I think it’s pretty good, but there are definitely better ones

[heady latch]

ok a first sigil ilvl 265 compared to a 239 annhyldes aegis?

[undone verge]

I’m not a super expert prot but I think it’s 265 Sigil for DPS, 239 Aegis for defensive

[heady latch]

ok. ty i will test it out. i think the 1200 versatility are additional 15% less dmg income, but the cd is so long

[undone verge]

Yeah and that’s why it’s mostly a dmg trinket imo since you want to line it up with cds like lust, and not really save it for an oh shit situation like in the case of scale

[heady latch]

ok ty. 🙂

[median tulip]

The only thing I use mine for is stacking Rallying Cry + Last Stand + First Sigil during the ready check in order to get an absolutely MASSIVE Fleshcraft before the key gets put in. I then immediately swap to Phial for the actual run itself

[sick sentinel]

LFR = Hosetown, population: YOU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxJ6N6xSECQ (also you if you join my 15-18's)

[restive sage]

Rudy L

[sick sentinel]

aLpha 🙂

[echo canyon]

hi i have a question about m+ stats better run crit/haste or haste/versa ? and how much versa is good if i go more for crit ?

[dawn canyon]

you only aim for high haste

the rest is less of a priority

with vers being slight more desirably than the other 2

[lofty widget]

crit is slightly more dmg, vers is better overall since it will reduce magic dmg

however stats arent gonna limit you just aim for ilvl

[sick sentinel]

either or, as long as its not mastery first, or zero haste your in the clear

but, ilvl first, then str, then haste, then... whatever you want really...

[median tulip]

If you are Necrolord Mastery from gear has relatively little value because you will get so much from Banner and Marileth

[echo egret]

Anyone knows a weakaura that shows how many spells people kick in a M+ ? A bit like the explosives kill counter ? I know any DPS meter can do that, but I prefer the flexibility of weakauras (only load in M+ key, etc.).

[lofty widget]

doubt you get that in weakaura, why not just set up a profile for interrupts and check at the end of a run?

[echo egret]

sometimes you need to say "shaman range kick more plz" during a pug run

[kind spruce]

how do yous think warriors going fair for s4

[jagged pier]

same as it is now, really well

[kind spruce]

lol you dont think they get any better

[jagged pier]

we dont need to be better

if played correctly

you take less damage than dps in some dungeons

and deal more damage

[sick sentinel]

there is a party kick WA that tracks everybodies CD

its just a matter of communicating to them who needs to do or hold interupt on voice after that and keys are total breeze

then again, if you truely have a group knows what they are doing, you wont have any mistakes getting wo not killing it till late on that add, taking it up to pillar and nobody like healer gets nuked by the line of dudes your trying to LOS with spears, or, getting around top of those stairs fast (spires after boss 2 pov)
those problems will cease to exist, is what i mean

[drifting juniper]

guys

i have a problem

with my personal resource diplay setting

it doesnt add the bar under me

anyone had the same issue?

[echo egret]

I'm speaking specifically of pugs, without voice comms, because that's half my runs. And I just want to see numerically if someone is slacking or not.

[alpine shard]

just open a new details window and set it to interrupts

[cobalt seal]

Just log

And check logs

Calling out people mid of a dungeon is rather toxic

Even if they are playing like shit

More than likely they gonna take it personal

And play worst

Also rule n1 in pugs

Never worry about them

Worry about yourself and what you can do better Next time

[sick sentinel]

the only exeption is if somebody does something astronomically stupid like lust on 2nd pull of tyranical

[lofty widget]

save if for after the run if you wanna complain, they cant do anything about it after the fact anyway

and it just pisses ppl off

[cobalt seal]

https://tenor.com/view/all-of-this-pointing-up-there-see-this-gif-14720503

[grave crane]

Most pugs won’t take constructive criticism anyway even after. They just go “fuck you janky ass tank” and log

[pallid finch]

do you guys have any recommended Ignore Pain and Shield Block WA tracker?

[lofty widget]

im just using icons that show time remaining/absorb amount (for ip), but i know some ppl prefer a bar

there should be a lot of choices on wago.io tho

[drifting fable]

tracking IP shouldnt really one of your priorities, as far as shit you should look at on your screen goes

IP for us is really just a rage consume for tier

and stopping from overcapping

the actual number youre at is negligible

and you dont really care if you overcap IP

[lofty widget]

it's not something you should keep an eye on, but still nice to track

[drifting fable]

sure, but personally i wouldnt waste a whole WA space on it. at minimum ill use one thats like built into the rage bar

or right underneath it rather

[slim smelt]

Have you tried luxthor Warrior groups

[grave crane]

It’s probably better to just try to make your own honestly

[slim smelt]

What do you keep space for that is important then? I try to keep IP up as much as possible so the bar is helpful for that

[lofty widget]

IP uptime is useless, you only press it to dump rage

[drifting fable]

you really shouldnt be "intentionally" keeping it up so to say

it just happens

because otherwise you will overcap rage

100%

[lofty widget]

that said there are times where knowing if you have IP up or not is helpful

so i definitely recommend some sort of way to track it

whether thats binary up/down or showing absorb amount too

[drifting fable]

i do think the one skyguy mentioned has a tiny IP/SB bar

so go crazy

[slim smelt]

https://www.luxthos.com/warrior-weakauras-for-world-of-warcraft-shadowlands/

[dawn canyon]

you dont need to look at your active IP

just keep pumping rage into it

[slim smelt]

This is the one I use for all classes, simple and constant

Someone's my block doesn't use IP so my IP is maxed for several seconds. I dunno rage into other stuff

[drifting fable]

your block doesn use IP?

[slim smelt]

I'm not a good tank FYI, just really like this topic as I'm trying higher m+

[drifting fable]

even if youre maxed on IP spend it anyways

[dawn canyon]

you can fully ignore IP cap

rage go away button

[drifting fable]

^

its probably our 3rd most pressed button behind SS and revenge, but pretty much just to spend rage

[dawn canyon]

off global too

[lofty widget]

sometimes the interal 1 sec cd is too long

[drifting fable]

true enough

[slim smelt]

Sorry I meant lots of fights I don't get hit using up my IP. I'd rather dump more into Rev then

[drifting fable]

oh gotcha

luckily IP is off GCD

so why not both?

[lofty widget]

the prio should be revenge>IP but sometimes thats not possible to not overcap rage

[slim smelt]

IP isn't on the GCD... Wow

[lofty widget]

so you gotta hit IP

[slim smelt]

Pug tanking without a pocket healer that's not an option for me

[drifting fable]

ability would be dogwater if it was on GCD haha

its already doo doo as a defensive

[slim smelt]

Really? 40 reduce damage i thought IP was like Monk staggering

[lofty widget]

it's gone in 2-3 melee hits so no, its not very good

[drifting fable]

if you play upper content it goes away in like 2 melees

yea

[lofty widget]

if we didnt have the rage gen we do with necro atm there would hardly every be any reason to use IP

[drifting fable]

was gonna say i would never press that button otherwise

[slim smelt]

So what do you use of not IP?

[lofty widget]

revenge

[drifting fable]

SS > revenge > IP when youre gonna cap

[ocean yoke]

[drifting fable]

that guy too

big deeps

im literally blind to everything after 20%

[grave crane]

The only reason we use IP is to extend banner and dump excess rage

More rage used more avatar uses

More avatar uses more outburst SS more rage

[slim smelt]

Banner?

[lofty widget]

necro

[drifting fable]

necrolord ability

[lofty widget]

which you should be plating

[drifting fable]

oh yeah i guess all of this assumes youre playing necro, youre gonna be hemorrhaging rage if you spam IP on other covs

[lofty widget]

nah

[drifting fable]

i guess it depends

[lofty widget]

IP is only for not overcapping rage

it just happens more often as necro

[drifting fable]

fair enough

[toxic pewter]

Ignore pain is very good. It help us mitigate a lot of damage

Especially magic dmg along with spell reflect

[lofty widget]

IP is only decent this season because our rage gen is insanely high

[grave crane]

Necrolord covenant ability. That and 4pc tier make us the fucking flash in button pressing

[lofty widget]

in S1 and S2 is was practically worthless

[drifting fable]

yea without glory its nothing

[toxic pewter]

Nah I love every ability warrior has. It’s all part of our kit and the big picture

I love ignore pain ❤️

[dawn canyon]

i do not love fatfingering IP as fury

[toxic pewter]

Anyone that doesn’t stop pressing it

Ok- stop pressing it

Tired of the ignore pain haters

[lofty widget]

60 rage as well

[dawn canyon]

brutal

[drifting fable]

DPS IP

[toxic pewter]

You don’t like ignore pain, remove from your bar

[dawn canyon]

arms IP is good

[toxic pewter]

Just be sure to use Ignore pain irl too

For your carpal tunnel you have or will develop soon

[dawn canyon]

nah im good i dont have that happen

[toxic pewter]

That wat they all say

[dawn canyon]

hasnt happened yet

[toxic pewter]

Everyone here is addicted to the hardest drug on the streets: haste

and with haste, only bad things come

speed freaks I call them

you all call it 'high banner uptime' I call it crippling addiction

... for shame

[dawn canyon]

sadly enough my fury haste is only 26% prebuff rn

[toxic pewter]

Oh no wonder you dont have carpal tunnel LOL

this 26er over here

you aint even fully reached the need for speed

[sick sentinel]

how would you rank decanter SD vs , bombs, phial and AFE (all 272) m+ i'd ask hook cuz i have a 262 that, but its no brainer that one sucks

[jagged pier]

decanter is aweful

[sick sentinel]

i thought it did pretty good damage? i don't really have access to raid trinkets outside of LFR

yeah i've got lfr bells, earthbreaker, heroic warp fates

[urban portal]

Just run phial

[grave crane]

I wish. The only dps trinket I’ve gotten is decanter and it does like 2-4% of damage

[strong forum]

Decanter is like 300 dps at 272

Phial is like 500++ at 272

So phial is just outright better

The only thing decanter does is a tad bit of rng snap threat

Cuz phial is just a dot, but decanter is an aoe proc every now and again

[echo egret]

Does Inspired prevent slows ?

[median tulip]

Yes

[safe thistle]

and decanter if your position is bad when it proc is a loss of dps too

[pallid finch]

so basics of tanking.... get rage, dump rage into defensives... right?

as in IP and SB?

[sweet summit]

press buttons (to generate rage and aggro), maintain SB, dump excess rage into revenge and ignore pain

[pallid finch]

ever use whirlwind?

[sweet summit]

no

[pallid finch]

and Demo Shout on CD?

[sweet summit]

i don't have whirlwind or hamstring on my bars

demo on cd basically yeah

especially if you run booming voice

[pallid finch]

this is kinda cool im coming over from Prot Pally 😉

[strong forum]

Spend rage on revenge to get more shield slam resets

Use IP to prevent overcapping on rage

[dawn canyon]

feedback loop

[strong forum]

Spend rage to gain rage

[dawn canyon]

press button to get more button to press

[pallid finch]

is Codex a trinket to get?

[sweet summit]

chainpull, make your healers suffer so you can get big banner uptime

nah it fucking sucks ass

[pallid finch]

serious question.... is Victory Rush ever active? its like, i never see it in m+....

i do see it when i level....

[sweet summit]

i get it from time to time

you need the killing blow to get it tho

[strong forum]

No

[urban portal]

you can make it past a 25 without pressing it once

[pallid finch]

i feel like removing it from bars and it wouldnt matter

[safe thistle]

dont bind it ever on a good key that could be used for another ability

[strong forum]

My victory rush is on ctrl+x

It's a nice to have

[sweet summit]

VR on the same bind as WoG

[strong forum]

I get like 10-20 per key, nothing you plan on getting

[sweet summit]

basically same button amirite

[safe thistle]

you execute a lot in key ? 😛

[strong forum]

You can snipe some with executes

But it's not something to chase after getting

[safe thistle]

i tend to screw rage generation if i try to do those snipe but im not as skilled

[strong forum]

Nice password

[sweet summit]

so true

[potent anvil]

You can macro it to like charge. So if you get the buff, just press it in melee range to use. That's how I handle victory rush.

[grave crane]

I macro hamstring to charge so I can slow spiteful

And pvp

[safe thistle]

i wouldnt in pve you lose 10 rage off charge for that

[dawn canyon]

My vr is on 5

iirc

[grave crane]

I don’t use it regularly. It was for s1 when k was an arms main

[safe thistle]

k

[pallid finch]

is Devastator talent universal, or can Punish be an alternative?

[sick sentinel]

no cuz SS reset

[blazing condor]

universal

[lofty widget]

always pick devastator

[blazing condor]

always devastator

[sick sentinel]

it resets SS is the only reason you have when someone questions you, that is your main threat and damage ability if further pressed

[grave crane]

It removes a gcd and it’s a passive increase in damage and resets of shield slam. So nah man punish may have some niche uses but devastate is just miles ahead

That being said play what your want. But you’ll find it Feels better and plays smoother with devastation

[toxic pewter]

Codex good for pushing highest keys. Many top prot warr tanks use codex almost 50% of the top 50 currently using it

[lofty widget]

wrong. it's a horrible trinket that doesnt do enough dps to warrant the 6-7% str loss

dont use it. ever.

[toxic pewter]

No no

[lofty widget]

the top warriors are wrong

[toxic pewter]

24 of the top 50 literally have it equipped at the moment.

I will take their word for it, thanks.

I have decided to use codex going forward

I invite others to join me

[lofty widget]

read the pins, take nomes word for it

[safe thistle]

its not like trinket will factor the key success though

[lofty widget]

no single item will

[urban portal]

just like how you have decided to go venthyr going forward

and have yet to ever go venthyr

[lofty widget]

but why put yourself at a disadvantage

[toxic pewter]

codex sucks never use it literally 1 out of 2 top prot warriors using codex

[safe thistle]

maytbe they prefer a larger hp pool ? who know

the codex work on magic dmg too maybe thye like that ?

[lofty widget]

maybe the top warriors doesnt reflect the best warriors atm

[safe thistle]

i cant speak for themself

[lofty widget]

since a lot of ppl who usually play warrior are playing other classes or quit

[safe thistle]

most of those warrior got dk and prot pal for sure

[lofty widget]

chances are they saw it was good for other tanks (which it isnt either anymore) and thought it would be good on warrior too

[toxic pewter]

Hell yeah it does. It does a lot of defense and offense. it’s a great trinket for higher keys when you take a lot of damage. That’s why the top all use it

[safe thistle]

on a dk i dont think i need a defensive trinekt but on my warrior i do, like scale seems better on a warrior than dk

[lofty widget]

meh

[urban portal]

why would that change anything

its a 90k shield regardless of dk and warrior

[safe thistle]

if they are that good they would had though before using it

(codex)

[cobalt seal]

Can we not have

Codex convo again

There is a pin for it

Thx

[toxic pewter]

Top warriors enjoy codex. I, myself, will join them

[shut summit]

i dont enjoy codex

[toxic pewter]

1 out of 2 top warriors do

[cobalt seal]

Enjoy it in silence

[toxic pewter]

Numbers don’t lie

[cobalt seal]

And dont come here saying it

If you wanna use it

Go ahead

[toxic pewter]

You do not dictate what I say sir

[lofty widget]

just baiting ppl tbh

[ionic fern]

Exactly..numbers don't lie.

Go check the logs.

[safe thistle]

he still bring a valid point why top warriors use it if its that bad ?

[toxic pewter]

I do not speak to you in that tone of voice

[cobalt seal]

But stop saying it here

[ionic fern]

ANd see the actual value of the trinket

[ionic fern]

......

[urban portal]

29 Wake

fortified

500 HPS

500 dps

holy shit

its so good

amirite

[toxic pewter]

That’s not bad

[cobalt seal]

Pls no sarcasm

[urban portal]

you realize you lost around 7% dps if you just had strength

[lofty widget]

its a 250-300 dps loss to lose the strength

[urban portal]

he lost 900 dps in the key

from losing the strength alone

[lofty widget]

^

[safe thistle]

why those guys dont sue other trinket then, thats the point he bring

[lofty widget]

cause theyre stupid

[urban portal]

lets not say that

[toxic pewter]

No no, codex is a solid trinket that is why 24 out of top 50 use it. It’s the second most favored trinket that’s for sure.

[lofty widget]

they dont know better*

[urban portal]

the loss of strength is very invisible

imagine theres a trinket that gave you 1k dps

[toxic pewter]

More use codex than any other trinket. Other than blood scattered

[urban portal]

and another trinket that gave you 500 strength and nothing else

[safe thistle]

its already posted that decanter outvalue codex but they dont use decanter

[toxic pewter]

I stand with my fellow prot warriors

[urban portal]

in details it would seem like the 1kdps would be better

[toxic pewter]

I support them

[urban portal]

but the visibility of strength isnt in details or logs

its nearly impossible to quantify how much strength does defensively as well

we gain parry chance and armor due to extra strength

how do you quantify that

[cobalt seal]

Who do i ping to mute apb on codex topics?

[pallid finch]

there should just be an areas for Trinket discusssions

[safe thistle]

not really since trinket are trivial matters to be fair

[lofty widget]

theres nothing wrong with discussing trinkets per se, it's just that this discussion has been had a million times already

[urban portal]

no one ever said decanter was better, the DK website used decanter as "generic trinket that does a bit of damage"

it could be any trinket

[cobalt seal]

Decanter is better than codex

Is better than it

Imagine that

[safe thistle]

isnt not a like 2 minute trinket with armor ?

[pallid finch]

if i dont' use double time because i dont use reprisal (different discussion altogether), would rumbling earth talent be the play then?

[ionic fern]

Meeeeeeeee.

[urban portal]

what if you are asleep

[ionic fern]

Meeeeeeeeeeee.

[urban portal]

can you give someone in NA the authority

[ionic fern]

Legit

90% of mods

Are NA.

And i'm pretty sure SF can mute.

[urban portal]

yeah but none of them would mute apb

;D

[safe thistle]

on keys ?

[urban portal]

both rumbling earth and storm bolt has its merits

there are a number of people who dont run DT even with reprisal

especially when you need that emergency ranged stun

[safe thistle]

DOS i like rumbling earth cause its always 3+ packs

its like having another interrupt on short cd

[pallid finch]

Yes

[urban portal]

@toxic pewter FYI the guy who timed a NW 29 with codex

[safe thistle]

if you prefer to ADD another cc storm bolt i guess if it doesnt bother addind another key to your bar

[urban portal]

he had 65% blocked hits

so codex gains more value the less you press shield block

[cobalt seal]

Really

You had to ping him

To restart it?

[cobalt seal]

The shittier you play the better codex is

Its well known

[safe thistle]

hahaha then if they have so low block uptime does it mean no good warrior are doing high key ? then theres no good warrior ?

[cobalt seal]

Also known

[safe thistle]

or good warrior dont do key

[cobalt seal]

That the top warrior dont play well

[urban portal]

no good warriors are logging their keys clearly

[cobalt seal]

[urban portal]

that being said

the higher keys you go

the longer mobs live

[safe thistle]

they just log on the warrior to get keys done on IO they dont really care much i guess

[urban portal]

so your shield block uptime is worse

[cobalt seal]

[urban portal]

example, plague 29 by sense is only 77% blocked

and i dont think anyone would say sense is bad

[dawn canyon]

i would if im very drunk

[safe thistle]

hold my beer

[dawn canyon]

id rather drink it

sense owns

[sweet summit]

sense is literally the most protection warrior of all

[dawn canyon]

[pallid quiver]

isn't at least one of the top 5 also running kyrian, as well, instead of necro?

i don't bother to keep up with "celeb" shit like that, so I don't actually know

[safe thistle]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/target-macros-fixed-and-no-longer-work-aim-using-mouse-cursor-again-327419

[toxic pewter]

Thank you. I am back I will work toward being a better skyhold member. I am sorry if my opinions offended anyone.

[safe thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/wow4-warcraft-venthyr-gif-21896972

[cobalt seal]

You say sorry. You always comeback to this exact convo

[toxic pewter]

I am a strong believer in certain things

[cobalt seal]

You do you

But dont come to this discord

[toxic pewter]

The greatest of all is truth

[cobalt seal]

And clame codex is good