#protection
strong forum
oblique garnet
its likely that it just doesnt register the first hit unless youre in combat
strong forum
im thinking the same
onyx matrix
I switched to goblin warrior, argue against me
blazing condor
i aint gonna argue against Saul Goodman
strong forum
ya okay i still got 60
strong forum
I switched to goblin warrior, argue against me
👃
onyx matrix
Oh cmon why not
strong forum
but sometimes i only got 50
oblique garnet
I switched to goblin warrior, argue against me
Why would you do that to yourself
strong forum
which is so weird
oblique garnet
Now you can drown in random puddles
oblique garnet
but sometimes i only got 50
🍝
onyx matrix
Why would you do that to yourself
Because I am special
oblique garnet
yeah ok it just doesnt register either first or last tick of ravager if you dont target it 
minor helm
I once got banned cause I was kinda stoned and it popped up asking me to confirm my phone number but it was my Google phone # instead so I didn't recognize it and changed it to the real one and got banned again
strong forum
ya think
oblique garnet
Report the bug
strong forum
on it
crimson furnace
@strong forum most likely its the 1st proc that gets the target in combat and its not registering
other it doesnt make sense
strong forum
that shouldnt happen
crimson furnace
ofc
same would go for sigils as well than
or other AOE abilities similar to ours
crimson furnace
have u tested same scenario with getting in combat and throw the ability on antoher targer?
jagged pier
hes orange for reason
strong forum
same thing
if im not in combat with the mob im throwing ravager at
im losing 1 tick
crimson furnace
😦
yhea, saw it
damn
thats a huge loss on a pack of mobs
kaka
works as intended :))
dont pull like a puss trying to cheese
easy fix
the playstile we were using was making sense
but the numbers
and the facts
say otherwise
clearly is not worth it in this scenario at all 😦
same as now, but using it while charging
same time
master clicker style
😦
theree is a macro that i use
where the ability is used
at the targets location
charge in and press the ability insta ravager under u
😦
sick sentinel
took me until RN to figure out you can go behind the statue in this place
i didn't even know this was a thing until you showed a video, way more hidden than the kyrian one
dawn canyon
whats that extra action bar below ur bars
sick sentinel
ability team tracker improperly existing for no good reason, testin out numbers of banner avatar impending/indelible
crimson furnace
i cant imagine not spamming revenge @strong forum
damn 😦
i charge and renvege insta
than do the rest...
chrome falcon
that's wrong
crimson furnace
well, i didnt say its right
but i nver have aggro issues like that
ever
charge, revenge, thunder clap
pew pew pew
oblique garnet
Cant be theorycrafter because i cant explain what im doing im just going ook ook
strong forum
i dont feel comfortable spamming revenge so much 
sick sentinel
Does ultimate form counter a volcanic
strong forum
should
sick sentinel
i know i shouldn't even think about it but same question on pirate dragon gambit?
like, what does it NOT cover rather
strong forum
i think youll still get knocked back
you wont get stunned but still knocked back, havent tested really
sick sentinel
Wow thats alot of CC, too bad i'm flesh crafting..... (rock music)
cinder nova
but i nver have aggro issues like that
You're either doing low keys, DPS are waiting before burst, or they're MD/TotT-ing you. Revenge and DW alone won't keep threat.
NL just doesn't have any snap AOE threat, and that's really all we trade away for all the benefit we get from it.
cinder nova
Gross no
strong forum
It's not like I don't use revenge but I'm missing a couple casts here and there I guess
onyx matrix
hey folks is glory of the legion hero soloable?
chrome falcon
sounds like a google question but i think so
strong forum
I'm certain some cheevos will require multiple people
sick sentinel
alerady cleared this crap once before
sick sentinel
im not a fan of tattman but i couldn't put a finger on exactly why if you asked me to, not a fan overall but hes for someone
i don't much care to watch alot of streamers
dusky mica
proc Gavel in Vault
lucid pasture
ykno
i looted a shield in raid
and then i got gavel in vault
great week overall
dawn canyon
what advice do you give arms players
you look at their casts
if mortal strike isnt at like 9.6 (ideally 10+)
they are messing up
chrome falcon
oblique garnet
never heard of him
dawn canyon
errant wagon
Hey guys.
I've been pushing higher keys lately with my prot and I feel like I've just hit a wall with my DPS that I can't push higher.
I'm running 20-21's right now, and I just can't seem to go higher than around 10k DPS. I'm running Necro.
Anyone able to slip me some numbers on what is considered really high for a Prot running these keys levels at like the 275 ilvl range?
Here is a random log of mine. I'm still parsing high, but like, I just want to push harder and I can't figure out how. If anyone can see things within the log to help me up my DPS I would be grateful 😭
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/czRZWbXjQ94N862J#fight=2
I know prot is like, low tier and all, but it just feels bad cus my newly made DK who is like 255ilvl I can pull higher DPS on.
just feels like I can go further
dawn canyon
I know prot is like, low tier and all, but it just feels bad cus my newly made D...
pwar does fat dam
oblique garnet
dawn canyon
if played correctly
oblique garnet
Thats 265 ilvl
errant wagon
Yea! so I'm hoping some sage can drop a knowledge bomb on me by looking at my log
and pointing out things I could be doing better ha
oblique garnet
ToP is rough dungeon to look at
Because depending on the path and pacing your overall varies massively
Your banner uptime seems low but im not 100% sure how high it should be in ToP
errant wagon
What about this mists?
I did 9.9 on this I believe
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VykdfLmgQxT1KAPq#fight=last
oblique garnet
Ill take a peek after my league game but maybe @chrome falcon can help
sage yacht
goat
errant wagon
Yea, Any help is appreciated ❤️
Like I know I'm doing well, it aint bad by anymeans. but I've exhausted the main resources like wowhead and icyveins for guides, and I feel like I'm beyond the info they provide now and have just hit a brick wall
I need a pro's advice at this point. haha
pallid quiver
It's not quite damage related, I'm just taking cursory glances at things, but first thing I've noticed is that your blocked hits is below 70%, which is less then preferable
pallid quiver
oh he beat me to checking casts
errant wagon
oh shit is that because of the rage generation?
pallid quiver
Yes
chrome falcon
yep
pallid quiver
It drastically funds rage gen, which would also do wonders for allowing you to keep banner up more often
chrome falcon
50% banner uptime
is like 15% lower than it will be when you start last standing properly
you cast last stand on cooldown
if banner is up
errant wagon
OoooooooooOOoOooOoOo
chrome falcon
more rage = more avatar = more outburst
i have almost managed to chain avatars
during last stand
and that's without ravager, in single target on raid
your reprisal usage is good though
errant wagon
Ok that is really good advice.
I've still been holding last stand as a defensive cooldown, which like I barely need
pallid quiver
You also wasted almost 10% of the rage gained from SS, as well
chrome falcon
last stand is like
the most dogshit CD in the game defensively
but the rage gen makes it absolutely insane
i don't quite agree with Nomer saying it's basically incarn
but it's pretty damn close
pallid quiver
400 out of 2100 rage from Reprisal was wasted, as well, which could be funded into more Revenge/IP
Which will also get you that higher Banner Uptime
chrome falcon
your shield slam casts are maybe a bit low
and your TC casts are a bit low
pressing TC is physically painful
and you shouldn't use outburst on it (which you aren't, much)
but we do have to press it sometimes
sick sentinel
how much is dessia gunna smack me for on an 18 if i don't block it
errant wagon
It has been hard for me to find when to push TC cus I'm either gaining rage too fast and try to dump into revenge, or I have an outburst up and dont want to use.
errant wagon
400 out of 2100 rage from Reprisal was wasted, as well, which could be funded in...
This is good to note thanks. Should I just be dumping more rage into IP?
pallid quiver
Your CPM is okay at the moment in general, but it could be better; I believe Matta, Nome and the like generally can get like 75-80 CPM
pallid quiver
Also yes
errant wagon
your IP cpm is low
God this is fucking insane to hear cus I already have carpal tunnel from pushing it
this class truly is bonkers
Ok that is all very good info though
errant wagon
haha
pallid quiver
if you've got cheater buttons on your mouse, i recommend having one easily smashable for just IP'ing; if you start using LS more often to fund banner use, you'll find time periods where you're getting stupid amounts of rage you actually struggle to spend
chrome falcon
basically, if you're overcapping rage, your ip cpm is a bit low
errant wagon
lemme just clarify one thing.
So when banner is up, use last stand on cool down?
You don't try to line it up with anything, like wait till you have an outburst or something
chrome falcon
i cast 9 IPs during my average last stand window
nope
because like
you're gonna get 2+ outbursts during the LS anyway
pallid quiver
The outbursts will come as a result of the LS, base
chrome falcon
whenever you use it it's gonna be good
pallid quiver
And it also helps band-aid any lower spending of rage you may have dipped into, which you still want to avoid, but
chrome falcon
these are my casts during my last stand window
(this is with lust)
so yeah you basically have to press a lot of goddamn IPs
which gives you more outburst
which gives you more rage
which gives you more IPs
oh god my hands hurt
pallid quiver
i have an mmo mouse like a cheater
it still does not make the amount of button pressing much easier.
errant wagon
One thing I struggle with is I'm trying to get more damage by spending rage into Revenge, but then I'm gaining it too fast and overcapping cus I'm doing reprisal, and ravanger is out
chrome falcon
i personally do not think IP on an mmo button is a great idea
just because you might really fuck your thumb up
i have it on ` but i'm left handed so
grain of salt
yep that's what IP spam is for
errant wagon
I have it on caps lock, it feels very fitting for a warrior
errant wagon
lmao
pallid quiver
i have it on the button that my thumb naturallys rests on with how bulky the mouse is
chrome falcon
i know what you mean about it being hard to decide when to TC though
yeah i mean whatever works
pallid quiver
it's just a slight movement to activate; it's actually less stressful than normal keyboard binds or other buttons to me
the fighting games will kill my hands first, tho ;-;
pallid quiver
My characters in fighting games generally don't have too high of APM
i just have to hold down like half the buttons on the controller 90% of the time
errant wagon
Ok well thank you both, those little insights alone are already going to help a lot I can tell.
Last stand I had as a sub-bar where I couldn't see the CD, so I'm definitely going to make a weak aura that yells at me to use it when banner is up
and just slam ignore pain more I suppose
chrome falcon
it's a solid log though, just try to get blocked hits up and yeah LS will make a huge difference
pallid quiver
we've seen worse pass through here
errant wagon
Ha, I like to think I'm above average at least.
I know the pro gamers hang out here though
pallid quiver
I'd place it at above average, yeah
chrome falcon
plus you're playing with destro and survival
pallid quiver
Good, honestly
pallid quiver
also ill have you know that's demo
errant wagon
wow you're a log god
that is really cool
idk how to even get that visual
but yea that's the number crunching I need
chrome falcon
the + symbol in the button right
will pin it
then you can go back and pin something else
to see overlaps
(i literally discovered this by accident like 24 hours ago)
errant wagon
I like it!
chrome falcon
there's a lot of stuff in wclogs that's like
"what the fuck is that"
i definitely recommend just clicking it to see what it does
pallid quiver
there's keyboard commands, too, iirc
oblique garnet
I think you also covered it but on prot you just kinda use everything on cd
pallid quiver
it's gotten so much easier to use and browse over the years, all of the logging sites
oblique garnet
also even double tapping ip is fine
chrome falcon
yeah
chrome falcon
in 90% of situations you can basically pretend IP doesn't actually
have any text
obviously if there's a giant nuke coming you want to cap it
oblique garnet
press this button to take what 4 sec off your cds
chrome falcon
but most of the time i just press it to make my big red bar go down
3.5 seconds off your CDs, 3.5% heal, 1.5 stacks of seeing red
(Except for when it gives you 3 stacks of seeing red???)
the only time i would hold a CD is like
ravager if we're just finishing off a mob before a pull
or avatar if the pull only has less than 10 seconds left
actually even then i might press avatar tbh
did you guys ever figure out what the fuck was up with ravager btw i left halfway through
hazy edge
(Except for when it gives you 3 stacks of seeing red???)
I hate this and I still haven't found the exact cause
hazy edge
I spent like 2 hours sitting in front of a training dummy and nothing
chrome falcon
but i just dumped my whole rage bar and now i'm just getting railed by rygelon
initially i thought it was some interaction with the 7 stack+free revenge bug
oblique garnet
did you guys ever figure out what the fuck was up with ravager btw i left halfwa...
No we didnt figure out the cause
chrome falcon
but it's not that either
pallid quiver
Yeah, it sounds like both of those still haven't been figured out
oblique garnet
but basically if you put it down when you arent in combat with a mob it only generates 50 rage instead of 60
chrome falcon
they should fix the revenge bug by making all free revenges give a stack
oblique garnet
and misses one tick
chrome falcon
hazy edge
yeah the ravager bug is big sad
chrome falcon
does it still do all its tick of damage?
oblique garnet
no
hazy edge
no
oblique garnet
it just doesnt tick
oblique garnet
its not
chrome falcon
yeah
hazy edge
it just isn't working exactly
hazy edge
same
sick sentinel
you know how paladins can have consecration at their feet, where they were standing or i think maybe you can do it kinda targeted away from you?
sick sentinel
i would like ravager to be baseline and you chose the way it operates like that
chrome falcon
you can't do any of that yogi paladin just drops conc at their feet
annoying ass ability
pallid quiver
Death and Decay you can choose the placement of
death knights better than paladins god damn glow boys
sick sentinel
there was some contorversy whenevr they got the option for the consecration to follow paladin
pallid quiver
i'm not holding on to a grudge from whe i was like 13 years old you're holding on to a grudge
chrome falcon
red class 
sick sentinel
people were malding out about paladins because of it i remember
sick sentinel
you can't do any of that yogi paladin just drops conc at their feet
maybe not now, but you could have, https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/consecration-that-moves-with-our-character/607940/9
It used to have 2 glyphs. Made it move with you. Gave you a retical and let you place it.
pallid quiver
that was like pandaland or something, right?
sick sentinel
after glyphs apparently
hazy edge
It was in WoD as well
pallid quiver
glyphs started existing in wotlk
hazy edge
It always has been
toxic pewter
wish i had 40% haste unbuffed
ocean yoke
holy hell m lihuvium is boring to tank there is 0 damage
sick sentinel
started up top with rogue dk and hunter, assume surv, group flipping out about skip skip? "we should skip we have rogue" "uh no let's just kill it" somehow die to first pack pull boss dk floor pov as per usual, I'm guessing standing in green stuff no melee on his death
dk disconnects and it's over now
chrome falcon
holy hell m lihuvium is boring to tank there is 0 damage
legit
grave crane
Pugs man all it takes is one having a bad day and the whole group has one
hazy edge
holy hell m lihuvium is boring to tank there is 0 damage
Halondrus is even worse imo
You spend 3-4 wipes figuring the tank shit out
then 50 for the dps
sick sentinel
log says the hunter cast his remove enrage so I find it highly unlikely died to him, I saw 115k from the red axe ability bt not sure if that was multiple hits or 1, says it's a 2 s cdon mdt
wtb mdt on tablet just saying
ocean yoke
halondrus was pretty boring too but its also a way more fun fight at least
onyx vessel
holy hell m lihuvium is boring to tank there is 0 damage
Tanking raids in general 
Oh look dps died time to wipe 
muted pendant
what the hell. Izen Hart gave pwarr the lowest difficulty rating 🥲
dreamy wedge
If you're not Necro the worst it gets is just being a bit spammy whenever you pop CDs
If you are Necro good lord you are just destroying your keys
ocean yoke
all he does is read numbers off a website
muted pendant
according to him highest apm has guardian
onyx vessel
Guardian is the 1head rotation
If we didnt have banner or tier set still harder rotation then bear
round cliff
im wondering if i should use ravager after my opening burst instead of before charging in
i already have to press ignore pain every sec to not overcap in the opener, the 10 rage per hit isnt doing much except probably being wasted
pallid quiver
i mean if you use it before you're in combat with the mob, we just discovered that it doesn't even do damage or give you rage on the first tick because of bugged behavior
round cliff
oh thats bad
urban portal
wish i had 40% haste unbuffed
Thought haste was just a drug
That we need to get away from
vernal vale
Hype for me. Got to tank Mythic raid tonight
Got a guardian kill under my belt and while I didn't play my best I'm happy.
vernal vale
im wondering if i should use ravager after my opening burst instead of before ch...
It's good threat as well. I charg in and drop it on player with a macro to get myself star5ed. Have an alt key modifier for placing it at cursor
ocean yoke
Got a guardian kill under my belt and while I didn't play my best I'm happy.
hell yeah gamer
civic torrent
Got a guardian kill under my belt and while I didn't play my best I'm happy.
Looks like you played really well man, good stuff, big improvement! Really good job not wasting rage, always stuff to work on but you did well mate
More charges will help a lot with banner uptime, if you can extend that off rip banner and recast to 3 mins for the next Last Stand, you're laughing bro
vernal vale
hell yeah gamer
Thanks for being excited lol
vernal vale
More charges will help a lot with banner uptime, if you can extend that off rip ...
Yeah, finding places to charge is what I was working on before I changed guilds and started dpsing. Both myself and the other tank where backups tonight.
Now if only I could get my dungeon rage waste as low.
civic torrent
what the hell. Izen Hart gave pwarr the lowest difficulty rating 🥲
Guy has the worst takes honestly, stopped watching him when he said Frost Mages were C tier in M+
muted pendant
That was my thought after watching that video for about 2min
civic torrent
Literal regurgitating wowhead articles for 14mins
stuck rock
I thinks his videos are good but for some classes that arent popular he clearly doesnt do his homework
round cliff
raidbots says i should be able to have close to 100% banner uptime without using charge outside the opener
oof
vernal vale
raidbots says i should be able to have close to 100% banner uptime without using...
It's tight but doable.
If a boss doesn't have a lot of mechanics and you can just play it gets easier.
round cliff
my best attempts vs the turnip still end up with banner expiring after 1:10 or 1:20 or so 😔 idk where the lost rage generation is
vernal vale
Have you got a log yet?
round cliff
vernal vale
My early banner pulls on dummy where about 1:20 to 1:40 depending on wasting outburst on thunderclap
round cliff
not vs a turnip
ocean yoke
youll generally be best off using last stand right at start of banner
at least that log looks like you did after a min
round cliff
if u use it right at the start u overcap hard during the opener
i was thinking i should use it right after the opener maybe
ocean yoke
thats the spammy time of ips
round cliff
ye
vernal vale
So yeah in dungeons on a dummy I last stand just before a charge and banner ad I'm going in. Then I spam the fuck out of ignore pain/revenge
round cliff
IP has a second long cooldown tho
i already struggle to not overcap without last stand
cause of that cooldown
vernal vale
That's why you revenge spam as well.
Another thing you got 8 outburst procs in that pull and used 2 of then on TC
round cliff
but ur using ur gcds on the rest of the opener
shout, outburst from avatar/ip spam
no room for revenge
vernal vale
In dungeons revenge is a huge threat generator in aoe
You'll want to be spamming it with ip which is off the GCD
round cliff
where do i use shout in the opener then
vernal vale
I use shout when I dump to near 0 rage and then continue spam
There is a rhythm to it
That will come with practice
vernal vale
Overall your not doing bad. I would say start doing some lower keys.
ionic fern
my best attempts vs the turnip still end up with banner expiring after 1:10 or 1...
Turnip does not hit you back so you're also losing rage from being hit.
ocean yoke
ip does have a small cd of 1 sec
vernal vale
Isn’t that like 3 rage tho
It does really add up if you look at it over the course of a dungeon
round cliff
yea ik im losing that rage
but hypothetically i should be CLOSE to max uptime even vs a turnip, so theres gotta be something im doing terribly wrong
urban portal
@round cliff can you link me the sim
round cliff
oh sim
it uses intervene in the sim but i use charge in the log so that should be fine
WAIT IM DUMB it does use charge
it leaps out then uses charge??
round cliff
strat unlocked ig
ocean yoke
tbf the sim also lusts
ionic fern
Why did you waste 2 Outbursts on TC?
round cliff
Why did you use Last Stand at the end of the fight for 5s?
panic
round cliff
do u not just end up overcapping?
round cliff
u can only spam it so hard :(
vernal vale
The little cannot use it animation is not accurate
urban portal
Need to mash hard
vernal vale
Slap that button like a swarm of bees attacking you
round cliff
ill try more pulls with new knowledge
urban portal
Look at the sim, 50% of your rage should go into ip roughly
round cliff
though i cant intervene the dummy so ill get less than expected uptime
i should be able to do better now tho
round cliff
the sim uses intervene and lust and doesnt get 100% tho
ionic fern
Coool.
I'm not at home so i can't log on and show you that you can get 100%.
round cliff
no i trust that u can get 100%
ionic fern
I'll gladly do it later tonight tho.
Maybe you can see what you're doing wrong if you haven't fixed it by then.
mighty valley
this is why robots don't rule the world
round cliff
the robot charge weaves i thought
round cliff
true
how do u effectively charge weave then
i tried it on my own but felt like i wasted too much time walking
ig u can walk out as u stomp
ionic fern
but if *i* could get 100% why cant the sim do it
It's using a "Custom made" ability called Heroic Charge. Heroic Charge is made to simulate the time it takes to leap->Charge
So it only Charges when yoiu have Leap up.
If you actually dig into the sim itself you can see that it used Leap only 7 times.
If you used "Leaping Bounds" instead of "Crackling Thunder", that would increase
Since leap CD would reduce.
So the sim in your instance is using Charge every 45s. While you in game can use Charge every 20s.
round cliff
and thats why u can 100% without intervene
vernal vale
i tried it on my own but felt like i wasted too much time walking
Strafing well keeps things in front and keeps your run speed up
round cliff
ye im not backpedaling dw
round cliff
ravager before charge?
vernal vale
Immediately after it's bugged and won't give you the first tick
Which is wasted rage
Because you don't get it
vernal vale
Lol
round cliff
ok its turnip time
ionic fern
I diddn't miss the 10 rage before, i'm not going to miss it now.
I do miss the damage tho.
Then again, i'm a super casual pleb who does like 1 key a week.
So don't listen to me.
vernal vale
Lol, I was always an after charge because if forget lol
I mean even at 1 key a week your better than me.
vernal vale
Nah, I do at least 4 but you play better than I do.
vernal vale
I mean you do know what your talking about
ionic fern
That doesn't translate into game.
vernal vale
Fair enough
vernal vale
Lol
ionic fern
vernal vale
Just keep working on it and you'll get there.
ionic fern
I mean you do know what your talking about
That's why i also tell everyone "Do as i say, not as i do". I'm just telling everyone to get 80%+ SB up-time while i'm sitting at 60-70% cause i cba pressing SB when i could be revenging.
ionic fern
can u not log vs a turnip?
You can. Logging requires a certain amount of actions for it to be actually logged.
vernal vale
I don't know I don't log unless I'm doing a raid or dungeon
ionic fern
So your current fight was probably just too short.
vernal vale
That's why i also tell everyone "Do as i say, not as i do". I'm just telling eve...
Hahaha I mean I know rhat feeling
round cliff
ive had it log attempts where i forget to avatar on pull and give up immediately
6 sec pull gets logged xd
ionic fern
Can you open that log ? o.o
round cliff
ill see if i can find it
urban portal
Immediately after it's bugged and won't give you the first tick
Btw it’s 10 rage and 40% ap worth of power
Not a big loss to free up a global
vernal vale
Not a big loss to free up a global
Good to know.
ionic fern
Just go smack a target dummy.
urban portal
Because the global you free up will definitely generate more than 10 rage
We are absurdly global locked
onyx vessel
onyx vessel
My key i did was a wake
urban portal
Keep in mind that a thunderclap does more damage than the tick you are missing
urban portal
And 5 less rage
ionic fern
42% banner uptime
Mad lad.
urban portal
But that thunderclap freed up can reset shield slam
vernal vale
But that thunderclap freed up can reset shield slam
I hadn't thought about that. Gotta quit forgetting to use it before charge I guess.
vernal vale
Nah
ionic fern
How long was the dungeon?
vernal vale
I think i hit revenge too many times
onyx vessel
I moved tclap from the same button as raging blow to ww slot
vernal vale
That's in a 16
round cliff
i did it bros
onyx vessel
Alot less hitting it
round cliff
by the time my banner ran out, it was ready to be popped again
ionic fern
onyx vessel
I played fury for most of this xpac
vernal vale
by the time my banner ran out, it was ready to be popped again
Progress
round cliff
and it didnt log the pull 😔
but ig i figured out what i was doing wrong
i was wasting a ton of rage in my opener
ionic fern
round cliff
are you happy now
ionic fern
are you happy now
Yes, i strive on telling others "Told you so".
round cliff
does anyone else have a problem where their outburst tracker just
doesnt work sometimes
and u have to /reload to make it work
ionic fern
Nope.
vernal vale
No
ionic fern
Mwahi unbound tclap
I ain't got time to TC. 😦
round cliff
very strange
vernal vale
If anything I get going to fast and click thunderclap right as I get outburts
ionic fern
It's not the end of the world in AoE.
vernal vale
Sucks to do on bosses lol
onyx vessel
Well you have to tclap to get threat on the pull of a pack
vernal vale
Nah
onyx vessel
I just spam revenge while outta cb to keep banner up
Mounting is for wheelchair classes
urban portal
Is that some new sick program
onyx vessel
I mean revenge is a frontal hit it does work
ionic fern
That's WoWAnalyzer that @sullen valve hooked up with cool new features to track your Outburst usage & Also banner extension.
onyx vessel
But tclap has like 8yr
urban portal
Wow analyzer works for m+ now?
vernal vale
I just spam revenge while outta cb to keep banner up
Leap and charge to next pack no need to mount
vernal vale
But tclap has like 8yr
Don't want things behind you anyways so just
ionic fern
Wow analyzer works for m+ now?
It has always "worked" , it just doesn't count the down time. You can still get useful information from it tho, like the Outbursts..and Banner Extensions etc.
round cliff
i got a 3 minute long banner just now, thats my current record
ran out just as last stand came up so i couldnt pop that and make it last infinity
onyx vessel
round cliff
😔
onyx vessel
Spear rotation easy mode
vernal vale
i got a 3 minute long banner just now, thats my current record
Now go practice in dungeons. You will only get better even if you struggle to maintain when there are mechanics
onyx vessel
Banner rotation lets go bois pulling everything
ionic fern
I'm not gonna lie, Kyrian with Dragon Roar + Power Crystal is fun.
onyx vessel
Healer is oom
ionic fern
onyx vessel
potent anvil
I'm not gonna lie, Kyrian with Dragon Roar + Power Crystal is fun.
Is this the play?
ionic fern
I'm blue
ocean yoke
i was so sad when they killed dragon roar in prepatch
vernal vale
I'm not gonna lie, Kyrian with Dragon Roar + Power Crystal is fun.
That's a funny slap of damage but then you go wet noodle
urban portal
What about venth with sigil opc
potent anvil
But you always give sound advice, Mwahi
onyx vessel
Ive died to power crystal once as a dps
round cliff
ever accidentally click the wrong portal in zuldazar and now ur in the pools of vision in thunder bluff
whys this even a portal
ionic fern
ever accidentally click the wrong portal in zuldazar and now ur in the pools of ...
That's the best feeling ever.
All the good old memories come rushing back
vernal vale
On another note now that I got the dog taken out I'm actually going to bed like I was going to an hour ago.
round cliff
it went wrong when meatball wasnt in bfa
tame jasper
Old heroic throw silenced 😂
jagged pier
Ht silence was a glyph not base line
quaint glade
Avatar too
onyx vessel
I mean banner effect goes over everything anyways
ionic fern
Not going to lie - i can't even see my character half the time.
potent anvil
What if you brandish the banner and use banner? Do you get two?
ionic fern
One giga banner.
potent anvil
We get this generic passive banner for cosmetic
Oh...using it replaces it anyway. And it's the same banner
ionic fern
Is that..always up? 👀
ionic fern
potent anvil
Actual banner replaces the buff so you lose it. Have to press it again if banner drops.
ionic fern
I still have nightmares from SoB 3rd boss when i was a gnome and got smacked by the huge waves because apparently my gnome had to SWIM in the middle pool.
potent anvil
potent anvil
I sometimes turn it on in battlegrounds because it makes me feel like I'm leading the charge
potent anvil
Needs more banners
ionic fern
Imagine if Blizz did a whole talent tree for just various visuals for abilities and stuff
.I would be running around with a flag on my back 24/7
potent anvil
Tbh, I feel like they should redo animations again. Give it more flair and personality. Instead of a different hue on the swinging trail of the weapon
But it's an 18 yr old game, might be too difficult
ionic fern
That would actually be awesome.
I don't care about class balance when my abilities look cool af.
Give me the Ele shaman treatment
potent anvil
True
I've been playing guild wars 2 again recently and the attack animations just look so much better and cooler imo
potent anvil
I like GW2 as like my 2nd mmo. The story is pretty interesting to follow
ionic fern
Man.
If i was R1 prot i would legit troll my r.io so hard.
Run stuff like Bolster+Leaper
jagged pier
same
ionic fern
And then laugh at this Discord.
jagged pier
but thats better than codex
pallid quiver
Joke's on all of us; that's actually what they're doing. Curated their logs and everything
potent anvil
Can you go R1 Prot in m+ please?
Do people even invite prot warrs to m+?
pallid quiver
In my experience, no
potent anvil
My prot m+ gear stats though
pallid quiver
Like every time I've been accepted, I've been told to go to DPS
pallid quiver
and somehow, i think im managing to do less dps as dps than as prot because of how much i've practiced banner upkeep
ionic fern
Do people even invite prot warrs to m+? <:sadge:820202363359854633>
I actually started getting invited again.
So probably some streamer said something in the lines of "Hmm..maybe prot isn't AS bad".
pallid quiver
ive only been for lower keys since i've been attempting to valor farm since i only came back to playing like halfway through the season,
so i'm hanging with the crew that glances at popular streamers, hears one word, then never thinks again
ionic fern
Sounds like me.
That's why i play Prot Warrior.
A streamer called Nomeratur said it's good.
So it has to be.
jagged pier
☝️
tame jasper
🥳
tame jasper
Do people even invite prot warrs to m+? <:sadge:820202363359854633>
It‘s hsrd. Take a priest/shamiheal and/or hunter/wl with u and its getting easier.
tame jasper
🎉
jagged pier
that was 4 days ago
pallid quiver
more than me this last week
tame jasper
Do 4 for a second vault 😂
jagged pier
would do more if u invite me @ionic fern
ionic fern
I'm just logging on at random times. 😦
And pugging keys.
I will invite you next time tho.
onyx vessel
2 prot warriors
jagged pier
i mean we've done 5 prot warrior with the bois
ionic fern
Indom heals - VR - Intervenes 24/7
Actually easier than it is with a "proper" group comp.
onyx vessel
Protper
jagged pier
its really not that hard
pallid quiver
i wish i could get the people i know to do things like this
strong forum
I actually started getting invited again.
We've had a dude leave our party instantly yesterday
A full group of 3.1 to 3.5k rio people and the mage who joined instantly left
jagged pier
u know the 21 i linked u yesterday nome that shammy complained about missed intuprts killing him when he died to an urh slam
then proceeded to be lowest on interrupts
he was like 3.2k or somthing
👍
jagged pier
fuck i wish i had a group
like literally just puggin a 21 makes me want to quit
KEKW
strong forum
Pugging es no bueno
onyx matrix
Prot warr m+ party, has anyone tried it?😂
jagged pier
yes
last season
we did a fair few
and ppl have been doing it in us earlier in the season
strong forum
I got a few keys on my YouTube
onyx matrix
Haha how did it go?
jagged pier
fine
strong forum
Pretty smooth
onyx matrix
And what key levels did you do?
jagged pier
better than pugging
strong forum
15-17 with the 5 prot groups could've gone higher
strong forum
This season I did 20-23s with 5 tank group
jagged pier
we could probs do 22s this season i reckon
strong forum
Ofc in time
jagged pier
but @blazing condor isnt playing anymore
onyx matrix
Hahaha thats sick
jagged pier
i reckon this week honestly nome
espeically if u got some warriors with seismic
and pull mobs on to bosses
blazing condor
jagged pier
blazing condor
Yeah you could probably do 25 with 5 pwarr
onyx matrix
Absolutely insane lol
blazing condor
I mean We all do good damage and can pop every pack p much
onyx matrix
It sound fun af too
blazing condor
I think itd be possible but probably not gonna happen
onyx matrix
Oh man I wanna try this out so badly but its prob never gonna happen 😐
onyx matrix
Yea, and plenty will prob just say no😂
tame jasper
u just need to find 4 other prot warriors
Come to EU 🤪
jagged pier
I am?
tame jasper
Oh i mixed u up obviously 🙈🙊😇
onyx matrix
I am playing on EU 😄
blazing condor
gene takovic moved to EU to play wow
echo egret
I would have thought above 3K people in pugs start to know what to kick/stun/prioritize, but I was wrong
dawn canyon
fwiw you can time 20s with 2 dps so 3k isnt too big of a benchmark of player quality
blazing condor
tier set and double leggo has inflated keys
20s are the new 15s
3k is the new 2k
strong forum
We did 20-22s with a 246 rdruid without tier
Keys are free af if people somewhat do what they're supposed to
cobalt seal
Thats the problem
strong forum
people
blazing condor
🤢
echo egret
Keys are free af if people somewhat do what they're supposed to
that's what I wish they'd do
cobalt seal
Just dont go on Twitter okay?
sick sentinel
why the fuck would I ever go on Twitter besides to yell at Xbox that Xbox live is down
I use Twitter for pretty much only that and to see if streamers I enjoy going live, Twitter is a toxic cesspjt imo, deleted like 90% of the stuff I ever posted there
sick sentinel
for special streamers I'm already in the pre chat anyway
sick sentinel
before asmon it would have been athene before he got fully called out for uh... whatever the hell his logic cult was
and back days of Justin TV I would try to watch a show called video games awesome which is/was 1-4 player multi-player couch streams of xyz game
I do think I have nome followed on twitch, UT aside from main "live TV shows" don't watch another of other streamers actively
sick sentinel
it's morbin time
I dunno I didn't actually see the movie I'm not a big movies guy but I could pirate one from net if I had to. if I'm not on wow or twitch usually playing some games that in some way involve cars and/or guns
unironically and unapologetically listen to doom game music and YouTube poops 💩 daily
strong forum
Morbius on twitch
Back in my day they played lotr for 72hrs on twitch
ionic fern
Back in my day we diddn't watch Twitch but actually played games.
jagged pier
☝️
used to spend 8 hours in the same zombies game now i spend 8 hours watching someone sit and talk
strong forum
Hah jokes on you I always watched my friends play video and I chilled on the couch watching and eating
Always loved that
blazing condor
i would always indulge myself in videos and stuff of the games i liked
even before twitch and all that
sweet summit
i hecking love morbius
blazing condor
sweet summit
omg big fan
ionic fern
i hecking love morbius
Which Morbius?
sweet summit
the movie
jagged pier
ah another conercer
ionic fern
The vampire dude?
sweet summit
yea
ionic fern
That everyone is telling me is horrible?
jagged pier
its morbin time
ionic fern
😂
jagged pier
That everyone is telling me is horrible?
it is terrible but the meme is the best film in the world
blazing condor
it literally made 80 morbillion dollars in box office @ionic fern
sweet summit
real lore
jagged pier
and the studio tried to step into the meme and it failed
ionic fern
Jeah, Diablo Immortal is also making bank, doesn't mean it's good.
sweet summit
LOL
blazing condor
you just haven't been morbed enough
jagged pier
it actually is a good game apprently
just too far pay to win
if it was just cosmetics u paid for
blazing condor
just dont pay
jagged pier
ppl would actually like the game
jagged pier
just dont pay <:peepoHappy:673436349805625364>
i dont think u understand what a waste of time that is
XD
blazing condor
it was clearly meant to be a f2p p2w mobile game from its inception
like if you wanna get a good mobile game out there
jagged pier
yer thats fine
blazing condor
the model is p2w
jagged pier
no one was expecting it not to be p2w to some respects
blazing condor
problem is they didnt have anything for PC and then made immortal PC
and that p2w model on PC is just ass
you dont see that in pc games
jagged pier
but like the actual systems and predatory practices is actually disgusting
blazing condor
it is
its something youd expect only in mobile games
not saying its okay there
but thats just a different climate
jagged pier
no like its far far worse
than a lot of mobile games
is the point
like far further than other mobile games
blazing condor
thats why i use cheat engine 😎
jagged pier
for instance its been banned in 2 countries already
mobile games dont usually get banned
blazing condor
tru
jagged pier
but u cant buy gear with money
expect everything u can buy contributes to power as well as gear
blazing condor
yeah thats bs
thats like saying you cant buy a car with money but you can buy every part of the car and the guy who builds it for money
strong forum
It's honestly the same as any other mobile game
Except it doesn't have the generic "buy to get more energy to play more" or "but currency to upgrade your buildings further /instant finish building them"
sick sentinel
i spent more than 999 dollars on another game but less than 9999 and less than 4999 on it, but, i won't say how much or what game lol
strong forum
It's a grind game, but you can increase the grind speed by extreme magnitudes, whereas other mobile games are just "daily quest simulators"
sick sentinel
and, it was over a period of like, 4-5 years
50-100 bucks a month something you enjoy, not hard for it to start pilin up
strong forum
I've spent like 1 Euro per hour on warframe
strong forum
Cuz that game is also quite toxic cuz you can buy literally everything in this game for platinum
It was good until you reached endgame
sweet summit
yea
sick sentinel
I dunno if you know anything about the game "world of tanks" but well, in short, if you know what a tier 10 is in that game, i have more than 1 of them lol
can take up to 2 weeks or a month to grind out xp and silver needed in that game to reach tier 10, or you can just buy a boost
jagged pier
takes u 6 months to get 10 of those things that increases your loot chance or u can buy 10 for $20
sick sentinel
uh... nope.... lol... its 400silver coins = 1 gold = 25 free exp points. (free xp can be spent on anything, tank xp applies only to the tank you were battling in.) you need something like 650-800k free xp to go from t3 to t10, costs something like, 300-400$USD. i want to say if you just want to buy out the vehicle instantly, can be less if you have other vehicles (usually same country) that have very specific modules that can also be used, they may not require to be researched a radio, or a gun, or tracks as it may share, you still pay to purchase those parts with silver
stuck kite
I wish prot warrior being fucking op so real mm+ players take me Only 3k- rio take me easy because no other tanks tag, sadge
Only trap group
sick sentinel
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/p68vbZQMq3gJXW7z#fight=last back to reality world of other world of tanks in the world of warcraft
SOMEHOW, i dunno, but i fucked up on the first trash here, dk stood in green, floor pov'd and dc'd immediately after dying far as i can tell so gave up on key shortly after
cobalt seal
"i dont know what i did wrong"
sick sentinel
i know i did something wrong though
zenith vine
just press sb bud, u got this