still trying to get it down more but im below 1k wasted rage
#protection
chrome falcon
definitely looks better mate
vernal vale
been working hard to get my dungeon runs better and better sad i still wasted outburst on 17 thunderclaps
strong forum
Cuz use a bit more button presses
And you don't want to absolutely avoid using outburst on TC
1-3/4 ratio is good
vernal vale
Good to know thanks @strong forum
strong forum
Currently youre underusing TC and overusing revenge
You're also underusing shieldslam because of overusing revenge
Which leads to less rage generated and thus less everything
urban portal
we decided that using outburst on TC is inevitable right
and wasting globals is worse off
vernal vale
Currently youre underusing TC and overusing revenge
Yeah, i overswapped my usage and am attempting to get back to using TC properly
strong forum
So ideally your casts should somewhat look closer to mine as a starting point
Mine are obv not perfect either
vernal vale
I'm underusing avatar too it looks like. Though that I'm sure comes from my rage gen/usage slowing down my ignore pain
strong forum
Yes
snow blaze
Hey, random question about something I haven't been able to figure out...
Conqueror's Banner.. Clearly there's a mechanic where you extend the active duration. What triggers it exactly? It feels like it's rage expenditure, but then again, I can keep 100% uptime once Execute phase happens vs not being able to last more than 45-60 seconds otherwise.
strong forum
Hey, random question about something I haven't been able to figure out...
Conqu...
Spending rage
It's your glory legendary
Spending 10 rage extends banner by 0.5sec
median tulip
Hey, random question about something I haven't been able to figure out...
Conqu...
Read your covenant legendary effect
snow blaze
Derp
vernal vale
In your 25min run you only generated 19k
we where slow in the maze which didn't help our timeframe. Healer waited until everything was dead to do it.
strong forum
With proper play you can have 100% uptime on banner
snow blaze
Damn, ok
strong forum
we where slow in the maze which didn't help our timeframe. Healer waited until e...
My maze wasn't exactly fast either, but still
vernal vale
Even still i'll keep working on my stuff to bring numbers up.
strong forum
median tulip
we where slow in the maze which didn't help our timeframe. Healer waited until e...
To be fair to your healer, this week he has to think about explosives
vernal vale
Yeah, explosive bolstering means i couldn't chain pull where i wanted to as much to get % at the end
snow blaze
Another question, haha
When should I tier-set tclap? How many adds justifies a tclap vs a good ol slam
median tulip
Another question, haha
When should I tier-set tclap? How many adds justifies a ...
Never
vernal vale
Another question, haha
When should I tier-set tclap? How many adds justifies a ...
always try to SS
median tulip
The key point of Outburst procs is the Rage generation, not the damage
snow blaze
the 200% is also about the rage, not just the dmg?
strong forum
Yes
snow blaze
That makes sense, but never thought of it that way, okok, very cool
vernal vale
how much rep is LFR
not enough to deal with LFR
strong forum
Lfr is basically you soloing everything
With a bit of chance that some people deal dmg
sick sentinel
im going as fury dps lol
median tulip
LFR is not so bad for us, because at least we know we have one competent tank.
strong forum
This
median tulip
Only Skolex can actually kill you with tank mechanics
snow blaze
not enough to deal with LFR
LFR is as much rep as any other difficulty. You get the rep once per boss kill no matter difficulty in a week.
55 rep per kill I believe
Replied to wrong person.. @sick sentinel ^
median tulip
You also get rep for each of the minibosses
strong forum
Hmmm maybe I should do lfr then
Cuz im this close to revered
And finally able to recraft unity
snow blaze
Hmmm maybe I should do lfr then
Only the bosses you haven't killed this week already.
You get the rep once across all difficulties
strong forum
Ya I don't raid
snow blaze
ahhh xD
strong forum
Pretty pointless
drifting fable
its 50 per boss/miniboss and 250 for jailer each week
mighty valley
Looks like the majority of prot warriors out there are still Kyrian
I feel bad for them, they're gonna miss out
Get the word out before 10.0
vernal vale
no one saw my mistype
jagged pier
i mean might be a mis type
but people still say it
and its basically because they arent good enough to play necro
its literally as simple as that
mighty valley
Necro is so fun and there's no way anything like it survives past the expac imo
cinder storm
what's the best timing to kill adds in hakkar? right after second tank buster or slightly before?
boreal dew
Hi guys, I have an unusual race for my warrior: Nightborne. But I was wondering if it wasn't a good class for prot warr due to the AoE snare and the bit of Arcane dmg resistance?
zenith vale
Thx
chrome falcon
race literally irrelevant
vernal vale
Hi guys, I have an unusual race for my warrior: Nightborne. But I was wondering ...
play whatever race you like
mighty valley
looks cool
vernal vale
I play night elf because I've been one forever
boreal dew
yeah I know that races are a marginal diff, but some stuff makes sense like the blood elf dispell
cinder storm
your dps/healer should worry about that
boreal dew
I see
mighty valley
Also personal mailbox is great
boreal dew
true, I wish I had a long boy, but true
mighty valley
or be a hot elf and get it for free
vernal vale
I play a night elf I'm the origional hot elf lol
boreal dew
or be the game's master race; goblin and always have your bank on you 🙂
vernal vale
engineers get a bank with jeeves lol
boreal dew
engineers get a mailbox, a bank, a bloodlust, a combat rez, rocketboots, ... nerf engineer pls
vernal vale
dont forget a glider for slowfall
mighty valley
i wonder if professions rework will balance out the gameplay utility stuff a little
i cba levelling engineering (and i'm a nerd who thinks things like "it doesn't fit my character") but they do get all the helpful stuff
vernal vale
Engineers have always been the utility profession but expensive to level and very rarely can make money from.
Last time I made good gold as an engineer was when we could make bullets/arrows.
mighty valley
i'm also too lazy to make money from any professions
sick sentinel
where should i do revered unity
lofty widget
chest
sick sentinel
so just whatever gives most stats
lofty widget
pretty much
chrome falcon
helmet is optimal if you plan on killing jailer mythic! 🙂
sick sentinel
I know you guys tell me its wrong, but i feel like if i want to craft it over a tier piece should be over gloves with no haste, then i keep my 4/4, ditch lowest ilvl piece, got a 262 belt with bad stats, could just do belt 291 unity
robust rover
Just to be sure, Undulating Maneuvers provides no real defensive value. It is taken for the extra finesse conduit?
urban portal
Just to be sure, Undulating Maneuvers provides no real defensive value. It is t...
Either is fine
You can go for endurance conduit also
robust rover
You can go for endurance conduit also
thx
urban portal
In fact I’m pretty sure people take triple defensive conduit now
sick sentinel
hmm gotta decide how i wanna do this, i'd be happy just to recraft it as belt, don't change nothin
uncut notch
Anyone got any good bis lists?
sick sentinel
was like, 5-7 more str and 11-13 more stam, not counting armor, on hands vs chest, didn't look at belt.
i do know that chest and helm has more armor points. more points overall
belt is 262 versa mastery valor 9/12 if i change slots
uncut notch
Is it worth chasing BIS gear in dungeons if i can only get it to 272 vs vault 278?
Like assume i have a 278 in slot
Is it worth farming a haste verse weapon vs haste crit or whatever
if its going to be 6 ilvl less
sick sentinel
well weapon is special because weapon gives you damage, so you can't upgrade to a lower ilvl on that
same with shield, doesn't matter stats, always highest ilvl
strong forum
Is it worth chasing BIS gear in dungeons if i can only get it to 272 vs vault 27...
Depends entirely on you
If you wanna commit to it, sure
But if you're not doing big dick keys, it's incredibly unlikely to have any impact
uncut notch
But if you're not doing big dick keys, it's incredibly unlikely to have any impa...
Im kicking around 22-23 atm
so not really HUGE keys
sick sentinel
i wouldn't because he loses damage and crit is just as important to use for parry and damage
strong forum
Unless it's literally for haste/vers leech on say wrists, cloak and stuff like that
uncut notch
sick sentinel
like you go down 100 dmg equipping lower weapon compared to 25 when u get new gloves
uncut notch
Dunno what to do with it outside of just like
roll the vault
Ignore the no enchant on chest, i literally JUST made it
strong forum
You could farm for leech roll on neck, ring belt and shield
But other than that
Not rly anything to get
You could farm a soleahs aswell
uncut notch
You could farm a soleahs aswell
this is a mega dumb opinion but i remain super unconvinced by it
Its like what, 100 extra haste
strong forum
The best "tank" combo from current patch is soleah + scale
uncut notch
32.7 and 22/11.5
strong forum
For m+ not good as tank, for raid very good
uncut notch
Its fun during execute phases
just wished it lasted longer
stack up ashen juggy and then pop it
enjoy your one way ticket to the moon
strong forum
It's already massively OP for what it offers
Despite its CD
30% fucking dmg gain
Is massive
waxen orbit
BIS gear isn’t really a thing unless you’re going for 285 or talking about trinkets. Just sim your stat weight and your gear and see the best outcome
west walrus
Last one (healer) joins the party for a key, i got insta kick, leader answers me that
strong forum
You don't even have to heal warriors this week
Like, what?
People really think pwar needs extreme babysitting and infinite heals
And have never played with 1
west walrus
I stopped counting people telling "first pwarr I see this season" or "long time no see a pwarr" 
pallid quiver
One of my friends saw me as a Prot Warrior like a week ago, saw I was tanking, saw we were planning to do a +15 Plaguefall with me at like, 248 ilvl or something, and he was just like, "well we're all gonna die"
chrome falcon
i don't think i've ever seen a community be as wrong about as something
as wow players are about pwar in 9.2
sick sentinel
People really think pwar needs extreme babysitting and infinite heals
OMEGALUL
pallid quiver
Nah, I've seen worse
Fighting games lead to some crazy people sometimes
WoW's pretty bad on average, though
west walrus
One of my friends saw me as a Prot Warrior like a week ago, saw I was tanking, s...
Tell your friend it is the gear we had at the beginning of the season, with no parts and only one legendary
pallid quiver
i came back in the middle of this season and am suffering from a 223 shield, which was part of the concern
But like, I haven't had any major concerns about my survival other than dumbshit acts, so
sick sentinel
i got 2, 242 shields from s2 m+ but one is haste crit, the other is mastery haste, so they are both amazing
chrome falcon
Fighting games lead to some crazy people sometimes
yeah but i mean general community consensus
sick sentinel
so, chest or helmet absolutely for new unity? or will it really make a huge difference... like if its a more than 2% dps loss i'd say yes
lavish oracle
My understanding of Prot Wars problems this season was that it was purely a damage thing
pallid quiver
Fighting games aren't that popular, so a few crazy people, especially strong players, influence a lot of opinion
lavish oracle
Like our damage just didnt benefit as greatly from set + double leggo so high end keys just don't run warrior
lofty widget
our dmg is fine, i avg around 13-14k depending on the dungeon
sick sentinel
gunna cost me whole bunch of gold for this new legendary chest
replacin 275 with 291,
pallid quiver
all im gonna say is that we can fix our damage woes by giving us back vengeance. it'll be fine, i swear, and we 100% need it
quaint glade
Last one (healer) joins the party for a key, i got insta kick, leader answers me...
mostly druids
quaint glade
You don't even have to heal warriors this week
and this^
sick sentinel
and also what do i do with the old unity belt that is given to me, assuming can't vendor or torgy DE
median tulip
No, you just get rid once you have a 291
sick sentinel
99.999999 repeating ofc % sure this is right, just double checking though
sick sentinel
pretty sure someone said chest due to stat budget, i won't be doing mythic jailer most likely
lofty widget
best slots for unity are helmet if you can get 285 pieces from raid, and chest if you cant due to the stat budget
median tulip
If you're not Mythic Raiding, it doesn't really matter which of Chest, Head or Legs you put it on I guess
sick sentinel
i'll do it on chest since it gives the biggest number go up
median tulip
I suppose the Tier chest gives the least Haste of the 3, so you get the biggest upgrade from doing that
Mine is on Head, and TBH I'm thinking of remaking it as Haste/Crit instead of Haste/Vers
sick sentinel
i still like the idea of replacing gloves to get 4/4 and haste in all slots, could do gloves unity haste crit, they are only 15k on AH
median tulip
I have like 5 versions of Unity already
quaint glade
99.999999 repeating ofc % sure this is right, just double checking though
In my case I did belt and feet I couldn’t give up vers haste
This is my itemisation
I know ilvl is good but I prefer haste vers
Got to get vers haste shield from 2nd boss of the raid
And we Gucci
XD
strong forum
275 is perfectly good ilvl to be at
quaint glade
My only issue is I feel like I don’t do enough dps ever since I swapped to necro (I have no agro issues)
I like the fact that I barely need heal but I want to dps too xD
quaint glade
I know but I don’t know how to dps with it
strong forum
Keep up Banner
That's literally it
Cuz keeping up Banner entails alot of things
So if you have good uptime on Banner you're automatically doing well
quaint glade
I try 
strong forum
I did top15 today and I thought I did fairly well
Did like 12.1k dps
But apparently that's still 1.5k dps behind R1
:(
lime urchin
thats with solid spell reflecting in yer top key?
strong forum
Sr was only 300 dps
lime urchin
sad
lime urchin
yes, the timing there can be a lil tricky
in my top 17 I just finished I only just did 10kish dps
but SR was 518 dps!
strong forum
Well ye SR gets bigger the higher the key level
lime urchin
true
sick sentinel
im 266 now
quaint glade
Did like 12.1k dps
I didn’t even check my dps from SD 20
Log is orange which is ok I think xD
west walrus
You have to log your key
quaint glade
I was assuming it works same was as with raids xD
lofty widget
m+ points is only ranked by key level and completion time
strong forum
Yeaj
west walrus
DPS is irrelevant too, as it compares your DPS among all keys level
strong forum
DPS is irrelevant too, as it compares your DPS among all keys level
You can check within the key level
This is like raid parse
Compares dmg done with all logged keys on that key level
You can enable that on the profile aswell
west walrus
Yes, but overall table only display the best parse, whatever the level is
strong forum
That's true
cinder nova
Stuck with this dogwater VDH who thinks we should take 3 stacks on Ryg instead of 2
I sure do love spending more rage on survival instead of trying to kill the boss faster.
strong forum
You can even swap on 1
cinder nova
Yeah, this guy's a fucking tool.
strong forum
Love tanks who are like "yeah let's take unnecessary amounts of extra dmg because I don't like to taunt"
cinder nova
I dunno how this moron is 5/11 M
strong forum
5/11 is pretty free
cinder nova
That'd explain his dogwater parses
strong forum
That's like all the bosses who barely take coordination
Any guild who isn't on anduin or past anduin rn is extremely average
cinder nova
That's me. 0/11 M because we're a lot of xrealm bullshit.
But we got AOTC like 2 weeks ago because these fucking jagaloons can't figure out Anduin, LOD, or Ryg.
strong forum
Dafuq
sick sentinel
i got roped into doing the first wing of LFR as a tank
strong forum
You don't have to do anything
median tulip
i got roped into doing the first wing of LFR as a tank
Only Skolex requires more than 1 brain cell
cinder nova
I'm aware. We also have historically shitty and slow DPS so our fight times are eternity, increasing the probability of someone fucking it up.
sick sentinel
because i accidentally qeue as tank, (i did in fact need it for rep to get 291 chest i just crafted) i meant to go as fury
cinder nova
I'm consistently 1st-5th in a 20-man.
strong forum
Skolex is just stand on your cotank and taunt on the blue cast thingy
cinder nova
It's bad.
sick sentinel
and then instanty i zoned in i said shit.... i went as tank didnt i? and they said, your name tho, be daddy tank for us
strong forum
It's literally just hitting target dummys yogi
median tulip
The problem with Skolex is that you have to rely on your cotank being semi-competent and taunting
cinder nova
Nope
sick sentinel
so, i did the wing and it took.... like, .... i dunno 25 minutes..... it was a nightmare.... and i even got exactly th rept from that
cinder nova
Just one-tank it
strong forum
Na zet it doesn't fucking matter
cinder nova
SR the breath
strong forum
Sr breath and you're Gucci
median tulip
I've several times done LFR (mostly to help build alts) and the number of cotanks that don't taunt is high
sick sentinel
the first time i went as tank, last night i didn't know how you tank the first boss
sick sentinel
i just, forgot to take him the bomb to the 3rd ring LFR blew up
i said nope fuck it, im done
strong forum
It's literally just a long trash fight
median tulip
First boss is a glorified M+ Slice
median tulip
and the fun of guessing who in the group isn't going to get in the shield
sick sentinel
no, i died to LFR skolex at 5% boss hp to the 1 shot
strong forum
?
median tulip
Yeah that's your cotank not taunting
sick sentinel
i had 100% hp, then i had 0% hp in 1 millisecond and a dbm went out and a gtfo noise went out
strong forum
And youre Gucci
median tulip
DBM is not very good at LFR
median tulip
The idea is to not take the different mechanics, I forget what they are called
sick sentinel
dbm told me a million times very aggressively to TAUNT BOSS ðŸ˜
on the spider moving boss
some im just okay, press taunt IG
median tulip
On Halondrus you just tank swap after every beam
That's literally the whole fight; you take one beam, other tank takes the next. GG
sick sentinel
we one shot everything outside of one the start of one of the bosses a bunch of random dps died to not sure
strong forum
That LFR for you
Bunch of people just dying in p1
So you will fall short of dps
And just bleed players continously
median tulip
I had an LFR run wipe to Jailer because over half of the DPS died to the AoE by not hiding
sick sentinel
ohhhh i know why it was because the monk co-tank was trying to do MDI pulls and pulled 4 groups after you take the telporter and go to 2nd boss
so, thre was 10,000 things going off
strong forum
Well yeah I did that too
I pulled from boss to boss
I ain't pulling fucking 1 pack at a time
In ultra baby content
Miss me with that waste of time
sick sentinel
isn't there a saying pride comes before the fall or something
i learned that lesson many times over, way over pulling in TW
strong forum
Na I'll just solo it if that comes to pass
sick sentinel
pf 18 bleh.
toxic pewter
who do you guys intervene the most
dawn canyon
melee
pallid quiver
Whoever's the closest so I hopefully don't waste time moving
Unless I need to move somewhere, in which case it's whoever is closest to where I need to go
chrome falcon
whichever melee i put in my macro at the start of the key
sick sentinel
who do you guys intervene the most
mage, just like in the meme, not the healer in most cases, cuz healer already hands full, why bring a bunch of adds to them and they probably have their own DR's they can use or just heal self
chrome falcon
just pick a melee at the start
make a macro that goes to them
you'll use that 90% of the time and just a free mini-shield block
and then have a mouseover ready in case you ever need it
median tulip
isn't there a saying pride comes before the fall or something
Pride came every 20%, but that was only in season 1
median tulip
who do you guys intervene the most
I pick a melee, and set focus on them. Then my macro intervenes them.
median tulip
dont i get 278 conduits now? anyone know how to get them
you buy a thing
sand drum
dont i get 278 conduits now? anyone know how to get them
ZM vendor 😄 ?
safe thistle
hmmm can we solo nyalotha now ?
toxic pewter
apparently its in oribos
median tulip
apparently its in oribos
probably the guy by the flightmaster then
dawn canyon
hmmm can we solo nyalotha now ?
Not quite
But youd need very few people
Football Boss has to be played properly
Last 2 aswell iirc
safe thistle
damn here i zoned in solo gonna give a shot at least
safe thistle
its cloak
sick sentinel
one of the ZM 249 rings beats my 246 ring :S
safe thistle
use yourt cypher if you want the gear to drop as 252
ocean yoke
whew raid being kneecapped with new nerfs
sick sentinel
is the hold W strategy for pf to kill the big add while i move boss away and then some range gets the small adds, or that we attempt to banish and chain cc big add and kill small adds
the most common method players will be expecting i guess
sick sentinel
i told them i would use my ghost busters trap, and they still did some kind of CC on it so trap despawned.
cinder storm
Normally dps know what to do, they wouldn't expect tank to do it or just react out of habit
sick sentinel
had 4 clothies, mage and 2 priests and a lock, and nobody killed the small adds or dealt with them frost mage btw go figure
cinder storm
Did you tell them beforehand?
sick sentinel
you'd figure that'd be the BEST class for that strategy, .. aoe slows
i said that i would use the trap and i linked it
cinder storm
A priest can only fear big add, next time have a hunter/rogue in that key
thorny sierra
is it normal that your dps is lower when in necrolord than in kyrian?
sick sentinel
kyrian has better dps because of mik tree
cinder storm
You just have to play better, kyrian is more burst but Necro is better
sick sentinel
mik makes spear reset faster which combines with urh
thus, number go up, good for keys and multi target.
urban portal
Both are good
waxen orbit
is it normal that your dps is lower when in necrolord than in kyrian?
Necro is better
It just requires practice
toxic pewter
I am a shockwave warr. I run rumblign earth now and 10sec off cd of shockwave conduit
i got 15 sec cd shockwaves all day
mighty valley
MASSIVE shockwave dps
chrome falcon
is it normal that your dps is lower when in necrolord than in kyrian?
kyrian adds a flat amount of damage with spear
sick sentinel
i just didn't like RE ever since nome tried to get me to like it in 9.1
chrome falcon
necrolord multiplies your dps because of the stats
so basically
if you play optimally necro is better
toxic pewter
necrlord is mroe consistent, kyrian more bursty
necro overall more dps if played correctly
and more survivability too
sick sentinel
rumbling earth is just ultimate feelsbads when it doesn't hit enough targets or doesn't hit in correct direction to do so, if it doesn't extend far enough
ocean yoke
oh yeah now we are full on owning
toxic pewter
omg
chrome falcon
Execute and Condemn damage increased by 15%. This also affects Protection Warrior
Execute and Condemn damage increased by 15%. This also affects Protection WarriorExecute and Condemn damage increased by 15%. This also affects Protection WarriorExecute and Condemn damage increased by 15%. This also affects Protection WarriorExecute and Condemn damage increased by 15%. This also affects Protection WarriorExecute and Condemn damage increased by 15%. This also affects Protection WarriorExecute and Condemn damage increased by 15%. This also affects Protection WarriorExecute and Condemn damage increased by 15%. This also affects Protection Warrior
NO FUCKING SHOT
sick sentinel
that's how i would make rumbling earth better is same effect but makes the shape better to hit. wider or longer
hooollddd up wait a minute
chrome falcon
yeah lets make those 37k executes 43k
sick sentinel
CONDEM
ocean yoke
not what i expected but will take it all fucking day
chrome falcon
i'm down for that
chrome falcon
try playing WW in raid
they're actually like
maybe 2 or 3k ahead of tanks on ST fights
sick sentinel
100k prot warrior executes incoming
toxic pewter
maybe 2 or 3k ahead of tanks on ST fights
fair enough they should of just buffed the st spells then
waxen orbit
Genuinely this is hella unneeded buff for us but I’ll take it
toxic pewter
i guess they sort of did other than fist of fury
toxic pewter
Do not patronize me sir
toxic pewter
i do not speak to you in that tone of voice
chrome falcon
i'm going to patronize you even harder after you said that
waxen orbit
Listen, both of your shields are very large, alright?
chrome falcon
Fists of Fury damage to primary target increased by 20%
toxic pewter
You are a true bully
toxic pewter
Fists of Fury damage to *primary* target increased by 20%
ware it say primary
chrome falcon
in the post?
toxic pewter
Windwalker
Rising Sun Kick damage Increased by 20%. This change does not apply to PvP.
Fists of Fury damage to primary target increased by 20%. This change does not apply to PvP.
Blackout Kick damage increased by 20%. This change does not apply to PvP.
Tiger Palm damage increased by 20%. This change does not apply to PvP.
Fist of the White Tiger damage increased by 20%. This change does not apply to PvP
oh i see it LOL
chrome falcon
ocean yoke
prot new top warrior single target
waxen orbit
Lemme check
chrome falcon
i'm convinced
we have a prot warrior brother in the balance team
and he snuck that cheeky lil buff in there
pure finessed it
shut summit
chrome falcon
goddamn i want to hit a 100k execute
during LoD swarm phase
it should be possible
urban portal
Need to stack vers mastery
chrome falcon
i just need a first sigil
i'm already hitting 39-40k absolute max
without sigil
add sigil then 15%
ocean yoke
execute buff means jam time
chrome falcon
i think 50k is doable
urban portal
If you get another banner it’s def doable
chrome falcon
sigil is like 30% more dam
so if you're already high 30s without it
it's 100% doable
waxen orbit
Lmao I can’t wait for prot to unironically pass fury on longer ST fights
chrome falcon
if you asked me to come up with a list of 20 changes they could make to prot
i think execute damage buff would be the bottom
it might not even be on there
sick sentinel
Execute and Condemn + 15%. This affects PWar's.
waxen orbit
Oh it’s the absolute fucking bottom of my list
waxen orbit
Bro what I want is a fucking reason to hit thunder clap again
Other than a rotation filler every now and then when I’m at 0 rage
ocean yoke
i am a simple man if big number go i like
chrome falcon
yeah preach
waxen orbit
Or hear me out
Add a talent that makes it so TC does an AA type stun for 0.5 seconds
(Next expac)
chrome falcon
boy howdy that would not be balanced
waxen orbit
boy howdy that would not be balanced
Did I give the impression I wanted my spec to be balanced with the normie specs?
ocean yoke
yolo make it empower next shield slam for a bit of extra aoe
sick sentinel
if u mean like MK ability to RNG stun target on RNG Auto Attack's for prot.... thats.. it really fits the theme, but its much to overpowerd
sick sentinel
ahh, no, my NF is still like, 70 lol
waxen orbit
i mean Show of Force should just be the other way around
Let me upvote this pls
toxic pewter
ashen juggernaut used 100% of the time for sure now
waxen orbit
Always has been
toxic pewter
yes generally but show of force some people use
sweet summit
show of force should've been iron maiden 
toxic pewter
anyone do quick math is venthyr actually viable now or no
sweet summit
no
chrome falcon
no
toxic pewter
ok
waxen orbit
show of force should've been iron maiden <:copium:839076283467431956>
What’s Iron Maiden? I’m high and can’t remember right now
agile pumice
show of force should've been iron maiden <:copium:839076283467431956>
theres still time for them to add it in
toxic pewter
ya true
sweet summit
revenge has a x% chance to reset the CD of SB
toxic pewter
we got so much rage for execute
sick sentinel
i mean, 15% is pretty nice, could be fun on raid boss
i dunno what the ultimate execute build looks like, but im sure it could pump on some mythic raid boss
toxic pewter
devestate is 30% to reset SB, but devestator (auto attacks basically) is 20% right? can anyone confirm that
sweet summit
yea
toxic pewter
Ok
sweet summit
that sounds right
chrome falcon
dude i'm now slightly less scared of jailer
sick sentinel
"u have to wait for the warrior to get 3 sunders before you can attack boss safely without getting aggro"
chrome falcon
i'm gonna execute that dude so good
sweet summit
jailer should be pretty chill now
probably still fucks
but that's besides the point
chrome falcon
he doesn't even heal now so
shut summit
mostly chill
chrome falcon
the execute train never needs to stop
shut summit
just gotta be careful about rippin threat even moreso now xd
waxen orbit
revenge has a x% chance to reset the CD of SB
Oh yeah still don’t know why they removed that
chrome falcon
World Crusher produces 2 less Bloods of Azeroth on Mythic difficulty.
World Shatterer produces 1 less Blood of Azeroth on Mythic difficulty.
i assume that like
waxen orbit
just gotta be careful about rippin threat even moreso now xd
Co-tank has to taunt off CD now
chrome falcon
he's also gonna do less damage to azeroth?
waxen orbit
Yea
sweet summit
isn't that the p2 soak swirly things
sick sentinel
chrome falcon
it's the shit you stand in to heal erga
sweet summit
oh nvm
chrome falcon
so if he makes less of it
sweet summit
yea
chrome falcon
you can't heal her enough lmao
sick sentinel
logitech g502 cheapest/best one with this weel
sweet summit
wait no
sick sentinel
bind to execute
chrome falcon
well there are fewer puddles
chrome falcon
so less damage buff
waxen orbit
Yeah
sweet summit
less bloods = less damage buff
chrome falcon
but also you don't need it because health nerf
sweet summit
but number smaller
waxen orbit
Smaller number = smaller dopamine
sweet summit
:(
chrome falcon
smaller jailer pull count = smaller cortisol
i literally did top dps in anduin p3
BEFORE this buff
sweet summit
liar
chrome falcon
what're you looking at to see that
sweet summit
chrome falcon
oh
jailer weapon dot
i guess
no idea
it wasn't even a good p3 i didn't have banner for like 70% of it
and we still do more dps than the top parsing arms warrior during p3
ocean yoke
dont worry they just got huge execute buff surely thatll mean they are at least the second best warrior spec in execute right??
urban portal
Arms has the worst execute out of the 3
Before this buff arms only gained 8% dps in execute
mighty valley
uhhhhhhhh we're also getting the execute buff? sweet
sick sentinel
how much is the heal on PF boss 1 if small adds hit him and big
urban portal
i think he heals for 200% of the remaining hp on the add or somehting
chrome falcon
depends how much hp they have when they reach
sick sentinel
so, send a frost mage at them pmuch
sick sentinel
the warlock was complaining that "i can't banish 2 at once"
sick sentinel
nobody killing/ccing smalls
chrome falcon
it's insane in terms of
sweet summit
maybe best execute spec in the game now
chrome falcon
making no sense
sweet summit
idk
chrome falcon
and being 100% unrequired
but it doesn't make us much better
but yes we're definitely the best execute class now
sick sentinel
after i get KSM whenever 9.2.5 comes around im guna fuck around with venthyr prot
shut summit
now we just gotta make sure to get pi in execute and we can blame our DPS on only getting pi
thats the meta right
shell shale
lmaoo
sweet summit
so true
chrome falcon
i mean we unironically deserve PIs in execute now
it was marginal before
but now i'm not giving my fucking priests a choice
it's happening
sick sentinel
condemn DOES give some kind of bubble DR thingy iirc
ocean yoke
condemned to do less damage
sick sentinel
condemned to deleted adds
crude notch
that's not a number
sick sentinel
charge mob, 75k execute, mob dies, EZ
chrome falcon
smaller than a banner execute
sick sentinel
i can't recall biggest execute i've done besides some random like 50 some k in ZM
urban portal
condemned to do less damage
condemn is the same damage
chrome falcon
urban portal
its less tooltip dmage but its magic so it turns out to be the same
chrome falcon
this dude has rank 1 boss damage on anduin
18k dps in p3
and that's getting a fucking buff
urban portal
makes sense
sick sentinel
so, average pug for 15 pf shouldn't kill the first boss slime?
urban portal
if we do some napkin math he'll be south of 20k
sick sentinel
i feel like thats the play, kill the slime and lust
chrome falcon
execute alone did 10.5k dps for him
toxic pewter
can anyone give a rough estimate how much dps increase is the execute buff gonna give us if u had to say
sick sentinel
big ass slime, i'll have the range go on the smalls or healr
chrome falcon
are you talking about a raid boss with a 1 minute long execute phase
chrome falcon
are you talking about a m+ pack where you're pressing execute literally twice
i dunno go look at a log, find how much damage execute did, add 15%
urban portal
sim venth too
toxic pewter
sir yes sir
sick sentinel
am i meant to tank him in the center of room or edge, group seemed to take a lot of damge from i think the stomp
chrome falcon
well you're supposed to pull a mob after the boss in for a haste buff and just tank it on that
but don't bother with that
just tank it in the middle
sick sentinel
if i take him to the ledge, the stomp is wider (default) and so hits and kills more ppl i take it?
chrome falcon
if people get hit by the frontal that's their fault and their positioning
not your job not your problem
sick sentinel
finger food?
toxic pewter
u think chest is best spot for unity if u dont see yourself getting 285 gear
urban portal
Likely
sick sentinel
yeah, i'm just gunna make a route that i know works for me 100% lol, i have to edit the pulls and notes
toxic pewter
Ok
chrome falcon
Idk
at this point i want to just start saying random numbers to these hilariously impossible to answer questions
urban portal
Right
If I could compute this off the top of my head I wouldn’t be in a warrior discord on a Friday evening
I would be making big dollars rn
toxic pewter
is so leah technique actually better than most trinkets u think
chrome falcon
yes by 62.4 dps
toxic pewter
yes by 62.4 dps
🤨
chrome falcon
it's fine
pallid quiver
Nice, already on top of it
toxic pewter
right it seems like a good balance trinket
chrome falcon
there are no good trinkets this patch so the shitty statstick is pretty high on the tier list
toxic pewter
sort of like codex
chrome falcon
what
toxic pewter
offense/defense
toxic pewter
does like 150dps
sick sentinel
finger food is the red debuff boy you guys are talking about for PF i assume?
chrome falcon
literally a dps loss vs using a trinket that gives strength and nothing else
toxic pewter
soleah better than phial u think
chrome falcon
i have no idea yogi i have never heard that term before
hazy edge
All of these questions can be answered just by 
sick sentinel
well you're *supposed* to pull a mob after the boss in for a haste buff and just...
?
chrome falcon
i have no idea
that's not what the mob is called
it's after the first boss
it's a red slime
it leaves a puddle on the ground when it dies
if you stand in the puddle you get haste
i have no idea what the fuck "finger food" is
sick sentinel
o ya
i see him now
no such luck about wo past the blightweaver on the stairs eh? or you required to kill him to start up ickus room
sturdy sable
dark lark
Oh neat, our execute got inadvertently buffed too lol
mighty valley
It's not an accident but it sure does seem like "hell, why not"
sand pebble
I mean it might move us from f tier into c tier with all other tanks at a or s tier
vernal vale
prot new top warrior single target
Disgustingly enough I was parsing lower as fury than I do as prot in raid. I'm very out of fury practice.
onyx vessel
Parsing as a tank is alot easier than as a dps
More dps in a raid team then tanks plus lots of tanks dont care about dps
If you want easy parses go venthyr spam condemn and ss when not tanking the boss
vernal vale
If you want easy parses go venthyr spam condemn and ss when not tanking the boss
I'm talking about my dps numbers.
vernal vale
I'm bad at dps right now. Very out of practice as fury. Hadn't played it at all this tier until last week.
vernal vale
Apparently there is more to it than that because my numbers where really gross and low.
vernal vale
I was slapping raging blow like crazy. With as much rampage as it was available.
I'm doing something wrong.
In any case it's about prot here which I'm much better at.
onyx vessel
Wrong talents unlikely wrong soulbinds? 4set? Double lego
Stick with you are better at is always the best option
Prot warrior pumps
vernal vale
Wrong talents unlikely wrong soulbinds? 4set? Double lego
Have all my talents and stuff right. 4p2L
vernal vale
Started playing fury to get back in raid after leaving my old guild.
vernal vale
Where I was told not to shield slam because I was pulling threat off paladin.
vernal vale
Lol
onyx vessel
Or do more dmg
vernal vale
If only it had been that easy.
onyx vessel
Ik
urban portal
That's his fault
onyx vessel
Ive tanked with some hot garbage tanks
onyx vessel
I was tanking with a 240 prot pally he did fine holding threat
My co tank i let him take the trash mobs since he rips off me
Tank the big boys
No spear for snap aggro
Prot pally is top dmg for tanks
Prot war is like middle
vernal vale
It was a whole thing. He was bad. I was visiting the wife's family for Easter and shared logs. Blew up the discord here over how bad he is.
vernal vale
He couldn't manage too.
onyx vessel
4 set double lego
ocean yoke
how do you not do more just by accident
ocean yoke
vernal vale
My buddy who just came back on his 243 2legendary demon hunter does like 7k overall
ocean yoke
my like 246 brew does more than that 270 lock wot
ocean yoke
did you ask what your cut was for it
onyx vessel
More closer to 2k actually
So easy to do but still
The whole asked him if he bought account
Nothing enchanted
vernal vale
2k io is a joke
onyx vessel
2 291s
Still means he timed some 15s
With that dps
Carried
So dont feel bad about your dps
vernal vale
I carried my demon hunter friend through several 15s this week.
vernal vale
He went from 0io to 500 something in 5 dungeons.
onyx vessel
More like a half a carry
I mean you invite a warlock cuz they pump
Get one who doesnt
worthy haven
I cheated and played fury till I got to ilvl 270 and got my 4 PC then switched to prot, so I'm using a 229 wep/shield
But prot is fun as shit
It's way more action intensive than my monk
But im loving it
I wanted to make an alt tank, tried pally/dk and hated both
onyx vessel
I cheated and played fury till I got to ilvl 270 and got my 4 PC then switched t...
229 weap doesnt use single minded fury
stuck kite
The day they make whirlwind effect on prot warrior the same as fury we are broken at dps
The 15% exex buff will help on tyrannical, but not change in a big way
jagged pier
Never gunna hapen let me cleave SS to 5 targets 🤔
onyx vessel
If it proced ss too
I dont see why you cant
When you spin like fury that shield slapping fools
Its more amusing in torghast when you get the power you whirlwind when you shield slam
Blizzard wont let us have fun
median tulip
That's one of the Anima Powers I would like to see make the cut into DFs talent trees
That and Shrieking Flagon
sick sentinel
hi i can see on warcraftlog a lot of Protect using necro does it the better choice for MM+ ?
can we stay with kyrian ?
bold linden
Necro rly Kicks in m+. I switched from kyr to necro a Fee weeks ago and i would Not Switch Back. With 4pc Tier its rly a Lot of fun to Play.
sick sentinel
with marileth ?
bold linden
Afaik yes, marileth is best choice
sick sentinel
I'm going to try it even if the kyrian pike helps a lot with dps and gather targets... I'm tempted by this new adventure with the necros
bold linden
Just try Not to Rage Cap by using IP. Only use outburst on SS for increased rage gain.
Hope i did Not forget anything XD
sick sentinel
necro kinda annoying this week since we can't chain as well right?
euh just a question IP ? SS? english abbrev isn t easy for me
sick sentinel
okaaaaay thanks ^^
bold linden
Youre Welcome :)
bold linden
necro kinda annoying this week since we can't chain as well right?
Im Not playing that high as Others here, but since bolstering ist only 20s now i usually Chainpull
bold linden
Is there Any cheese or Tips for Echelon tyrranical (20)? My group consists of Boomie, dh, Shadow, rsham and me . We wiped Yesterday at 21% as the adds did Not die fast enough this round. We Had about 5-6 add rounds. The round WE wiped, our rsham was seperated from us due to Bad void puddle Spawn and adds were shattered everywhere....Guess IT was Just Bad Play and WE wiped bcuz of that, but Just warnt to know If Theres Any Tips for IT :)
bold linden
What she told me
Lol yes xD maybe i should Restrain mysslf from jumping in next group with 2-3 adds at 10% hp left...
bold linden
Yes i mean Charge :)
onyx vessel
Ive done that so many times
Time to pull next pack leap in
2seconds later why didnt i charge now i getting clapped
onyx vessel
Yes i mean Charge :)
You find aggro hard? Maybe its cuz im nerco
Its rough off the start of a pull
bold linden
I usually have ravager for every Pack rdy
onyx matrix
Never gunna hapen let me cleave SS to 5 targets 🤔
Just like prot pallies shield of the righteousness xD
silk pine
Hey guys would u go with soleah technique 272 or old warrior soul 246?
quaint glade
I think jakey said soleah and scale is op rn
quaint glade
But I go with scale and streets trinket
onyx vessel
Read pin
quaint glade
So I don’t hear healers complaining
bold linden
Does a reflect on echelons blood Torrent prevent the void Zone from spawning? Or is IT a reflect?
Deflect*
umbral yarrow
Prot warrior condemn gang now?
onyx vessel
umbral yarrow
F
iron lagoon
Hey, a friend asking me how much rage does pwar generate compared to S2 (with banner a perfect play etc) ? It must be big % but anyone know how much approx ?
jagged pier
Alot
iron lagoon
strong forum
From 9.1 to 9.2 our rage gen increased 50-100%
wooden widget
Hey why would folks be taking into the fray over ravager. Just cuz tyrannical week?
strong forum
In m+ I'd never recommend itf
Cuz you hardly ever get 5 stacks on bosses
So you're at a strict dps loss even on ST
onyx matrix
Got the scale from hakkar yesterday (low key one, ilvl 236) would it be worth investering and upgrading it? Cheers peeps
strong forum
Depends on your needs, generally tank trinkets aren't that useful until highish keys
strong forum
Then it doesn't have any value tbh, unless you absolutely want to run it
onyx matrix
Ah okay
onyx matrix
Kek
dawn canyon
This is in the Balance changes 
onyx matrix
For the patch that comes?
lofty widget
arent we already one of the highest dmg specs in execute phase?
onyx matrix
Haha nice
But threat isnt an issue
But meh I guess its alright
1 thunderclap just like in legion and we have threat for months.
dawn canyon
Wdym threat isnt an issue
fallow narwhal
are you playing with potatoes
dawn canyon
Have you ever specced into fury and tried to play the game?
fallow narwhal
that threat isnt an issue*
lofty widget
fury is probably the only spec that can yoink aggro tbf
fallow narwhal
ye
dawn canyon
Fury Arms ret fdk
fallow narwhal
so many pug mms that dont MD
onyx matrix
are you playing with potatoes
Not at all, the ppl i play with now have a brain
Pugs? Not sure
onyx matrix
fury is probably the only spec that can yoink aggro tbf
Ive yoinked aggro as arms so many times from dhs and bears😂
shell fox
you guys saw the raid nerf?