protection

[wraith hemlock]

My guild dps do stand on top of me for pulls thou just for that reason

[civic torrent]

It takes 2 seconds for the healer to shift and the ranged to move in for giga mastery

[wraith hemlock]

Since the pull banner will give em mast

But the one mid fight its free for all

[gray iris]

hey guys how do you absorb those orbs during spires of ascension... I take ton of damage from that...

fighting 3rd boss

[chrome falcon]

Press your buttons, you should have every CD available

Use DS+SR while you pick them up

Then shield wall when you have all of them

Spam ignore pain and get heals

You also have fleshcraft

[gray iris]

What is SR?

[blazing condor]

Spell reflect

20% damage reduction from magic

[gray iris]

Oh damn i didnt know that

i get wrecked when i pick them up and i cast shield wall right at the start

[strong forum]

very very very bad

you wanna use it at 10 stacks

not when you pick them up

10 stacks is when shit hurts bad

[gray iris]

is there a way to see these stacks or is it just the number of those orbs you have absorbed?

[strong forum]

its literally your debuff

[gray iris]

Damn this debuff and buff has always confused me

it is also there in damagemetres

[dawn canyon]

No your actual buffs

Top right

[timber slate]

Also dps warrior can spell reflect the big circle

[wraith hemlock]

Top right side of your screen, to the left of the minimap, on top will be hr buffs, below it will be the debuff. The square or icon of a debuff can have a number which will represent the stacks. In this case it would have a 10

[grave crane]

i say that in raid so the healers move awy

[silk pine]

Hey guys what is on ur first place in damage in most duongens revenge and shield slam is very close to each other. I am not sure if I hit revenge wrong or this is legit

[chrome falcon]

More revenj

Revenge should be top SS second

[strong forum]

depending on dungeon SS can be first

[silk pine]

are they still close or is revenge always higher

[strong forum]

very close

[silk pine]

hmm ok than I should be fine in tyrannical weeks probably

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/6iZQBIc.png

this was my breakdown of 13.1k dps

[chrome falcon]

SS can definitely be top in tyr

[silk pine]

which duongen?

[strong forum]

mists

[chrome falcon]

Especially in like streets or other places with lots of bosses

Yeah mists makes sense

Not many giga pulls and big SS on first boss

[silk pine]

I am most of the time around 11 k

[strong forum]

11k is fine

[chrome falcon]

more

[strong forum]

more is always better but 11k is fineish

[wraith hemlock]

Must do more. Over 900k dps

[chrome falcon]

[wraith hemlock]

(Jk)

[silk pine]

can I see your gear in comparison @strong forum

[strong forum]

i was 267

[silk pine]

ok lul

diffrent lego? 😄

[strong forum]

no

glory + rep

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dqcFVGbPgtQJhmM4#fight=1&type=summary&source=4

[silk pine]

ok I have way more versa and less mastery 😄

[dawn canyon]

we call this nome diff

[strong forum]

vers and mastery doesnt make any difference

vers is better for dmg actually

[wraith hemlock]

Nome killing all prot wars confidence

Most*

[strong forum]

i just press buttons

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-nope-hoodie-leaving-bye-gif-16939028

[silk pine]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3XD4mK78JvLbwqHc/#fight=last This was my last key where shield slam and revenge were very close

[strong forum]

only 41 avatars in a 30min key?

eh?

[dawn canyon]

id think of it as a statement for prots potential

and its up to use to realize it

[strong forum]

oh geez youre capping rage quite alot

almost 10%

yikes

[silk pine]

yeah probably need to spam more ip

[dawn canyon]

is ur ip bind easily pressable?

[silk pine]

4

[strong forum]

yeah i had almost 3 CPM more of IP

same CPM of revenge

but i also had 1cpm higher of SS

youre also BARELY executing

i had more execute casts in 17min than you did in 30

[silk pine]

OK STOP NOW I DEPRESSED

[strong forum]

you should also use Last Stand more often

treat it as an DPS CD

[chrome falcon]

LS on CD if banner is up and mash IP the whole time it’s up

[strong forum]

the 50% rage gain makes you immortal and lets you recover banner uptime FUCKLOADS

aswell as obv more outbursts and such

[chrome falcon]

I wish unnerving focus worked properly

With banner and rep

But oh well

[strong forum]

we blue pinged a few times

[chrome falcon]

Yeah

[strong forum]

but doesnt seem relevant enough 😦

[chrome falcon]

It’s like 70 rage lost if you trigger rep twice and have banner up

Maybe closer to 80

No I don’t know what I’m doing maybe it’s less idk it’s more than 0

[strong forum]

hm your blocked hits are also on the low end

72% average is 8-10% too little, but i understand that charging in the necropolis is fucked

[gray iris]

ok thanks.. So what is the difference between debuff and a buff?

[strong forum]

debuff- negative

buff- positive

theyre on 2 entirely seperate displays

[silk pine]

Alright thank you for ur feedback I try to keep this doing in the key 🙂

[gray iris]

Then why deep wounds is a debuff? Does it not amp up our damage..

[strong forum]

nothing of big relevance, but keep in mind that SW is a fucking low CD especially with Urh

if you pop it just before/during/ urh

its practically ready again after urh ends

[chrome falcon]

Deep wounds is a debuff that you put on mobs

[gray iris]

oh okay... Now i understand..

so healer has the responsibility to remove debuffs on us right?

[chrome falcon]

I mean

No

Most of them they can’t

They can’t remove the debuff from the spires boss

Sometimes there are magic debuffs and every healer can do those

But there are also poisons, diseases, and curses, and only certain healers can do them

[gray iris]

all these are debuffs right?

[chrome falcon]

Oh man

Yes

The buffs are the ones that you can click to cancel

The debuffs are the ones you can’t

[gray iris]

oh okay now it makes sense

[dawn canyon]

if you rightclick these they go away

[strong forum]

signet user spotted

[dawn canyon]

im fury specced

[strong forum]

disgusting

[dawn canyon]

im a filthy dps main

cant escape my true calling

[silk pine]

ok another question how do you deal on the first boss in tazavesh gambit damage cant even keep 1min uptime becouse of the intermissions 😦

On banner

[dawn canyon]

you can hit him during immune

[silk pine]

hmm ok I always played console

[dawn canyon]

ye obviously after that

[silk pine]

had always the feeling I dont generate rage while the intermission, when i hit him

[lofty widget]

you dont

you can charge him for rage tho

[sick sentinel]

i'd play rogue if it was more like old rogue

[grave crane]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Wrx8MpFNy7hJfZXg this was my first 19. we timed it but only barely. what can i do to be better?

[strong forum]

your cpm is extremely los

youre not using SS or TC nearly enough

youre spamming too much revenge for how little rage youre generating

[grave crane]

ok more SS and TC

[strong forum]

your CPM of SS should be around 12-13

but yours is at 8

your CPM of TC should be around 8 but yours is at 1.6

[grave crane]

yeah i am definitely not TC enough and SS will work on that

[strong forum]

your blocked hits are also incredibly low, only 66%

it should be 80%+

make more use of reprisal and simply press SB more

[grave crane]

ok so more charge weaving and SB more for sure

[strong forum]

and the rest is just consequences of what i already named

when you generate more rage youll pump more into IP automatically

but rn youre actively holding SS and TC to spam revenges

instead of dumping rage with IP and revenge

you need to spend rage to generate rage, always prioritise generating rage over spending it on revenge, aka press more IP to press more SS to press more revenge to get more SS

thats vital

[grave crane]

ok, i will cast TC and SS more instead of holding. That makes sense thank you for the help

[chrome falcon]

If SS is up and you have aggro

Press SS

I know I say TC is a dogshit ability and it is but… it’s better than pressing literally nothing

[strong forum]

you dont wanna use TC exactly on CD

but pretty close to it

[chrome falcon]

I normally assume that two revenges won’t proc SS

So if I’m like 40 rage and I just SS’d

That’s a TC moment

[strong forum]

fair assumption

[grave crane]

ok, i was using it on CD before tier, but then started just mongo braining and wasting outburst on it. So i started to press really low amount but will work on just not mongo braining it and press it more

[strong forum]

necro + tier + reprisal pwar takes a bit of brainpower

cant mongo unless youre experienced

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/halter-beyin-komik-brain-workout-gif-13417733

[sick sentinel]

you guys never use a macro that like pops all the stuff you have start of fight right? i think its the order that fucks me up, and just making sure im charging at correct target

[strong forum]

i dont use any combat macros

besides charge/intervene

[jagged pier]

u would need to press that macro like 5 times

pointless

[strong forum]

cast sequence macros are bad

dont use

[sick sentinel]

i don't stop to think to use banner, mostly is banner and LS before pulling and early ravager/demo

like all this before the charge is too much for puny brain somehow

so, then i end up attacking wrong target, lose dps+aggro, > depleto

[median tulip]

I used Ravager cursor macro, and I macro my Racial into Avatar

[strong forum]

i wouldnt call those combat macros

more like QoL

[chrome falcon]

I use LS banner avatar faulty countermeasure macro on the pull in raids

[median tulip]

and they mouseover charge

[chrome falcon]

But that’s it

[median tulip]

and my intervene macro

[sick sentinel]

use to have my main CDs on f1-f5, they are on shift 1234 now

[chrome falcon]

Yeah I have my CDs all over my keyboard so I macro then

I’m not pressing C, 9 ctrl 2, ctrl 6, all at once my fingers my fall off

[median tulip]

Banner is C

and V drops Ravager at my location

[sick sentinel]

combat buttons only, im curious to see what kind of key binds you guys have

[strong forum]

for me it would be, x->shift m5+shift F+e + shift S

to use charge -> LS + Avatar + Trinket + Banner

all shifts

shift E is demo shout

so its also on trinket button for ez clap

also shift 4 for SB

[waxen orbit]

Guys peep the new tank tier list 👀

[strong forum]

if it aint tiger its wrong

[waxen orbit]

Nome almost exploded LMAO

[sick sentinel]

i can name alot of those but not all, pic not related, pic is buttons

tiger is 3 from the bottom on the left tiger 1

2 right 3 down from the top is a kv 2 could name em if i tried

[strong forum]

was about to write a twitlonger

[jagged pier]

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw6uZInkWS4

WTF e100

6 shelled fictional machine of death

its as overpowered as it looks

[paper mirage]

when running reprisal, how do you guys recommend getting in those extra charges while actively tanking? Shockwave first and charge back in? Intervene to healer and then charge back in? I realize both can work, but would like to hear other's methods

[strong forum]

charge during their casts where mobs are stationary

charge mobs on the side that arent directly in front of you

dont intervene back out to a ranged to charge back in

you waste a good 2 seconds of SB uptime like that and a revenge proc

leap -> charge also works

[paper mirage]

❤️

[strong forum]

often running back and charging a farther target also works

cuz someone applies some kind of slow

or any kind of mob is stunned/immobile so you can charge that one aswell

[paper mirage]

Cheers @strong forum

[median tulip]

If you are running Marileth, then the Viscous Trail soulbind power is invaluable; ignore the tooltip, it will proc when you use Thunderclap

[chilly brook]

You mean the tank that always broke down and was using an underpowered engine?

[strong forum]

Don't battle me on this I know my tank lore extremely well

They have chains and shoot explosives

They're also heavy!

[chilly brook]

[strong forum]

[chilly brook]

I love tank lore

Laser pig is goated

So is The Chieftain

[median tulip]

I've been enjoying reading /r/TankPorn/ during this war in Ukraine

[strong forum]

Wtf

[timber slate]

[silk pine]

Hey is there any site where I can watch boss skills cds? Like the Heaving Retch of Blightborne

[strong forum]

There are weakauras that track that

But shouldn't littlewigs tell you when boss mechanics happen

[dawn canyon]

yea littlewings and dbm do that

[silk pine]

I am not inside of the dungeon and I want to see how often I can intervene some boss mechanics.

[strong forum]

Intervene should be ready for every retch

[silk pine]

just a webpage or is inside of littlewigs and dbm the cds?

[strong forum]

That much I know

I think you could also check mdt?

[mortal brook]

lorrgs.io but only for raid

[strong forum]

Idk if they display the ability CDs

Maybe tanknotes m+ section has smth listed

[silk pine]

yeah probably tanknotes

[fickle arrow]

Anyone have a good video of someone tanking with necrolord and kinda describing what they are doing/skills they use at certain times/ and why as they are doing keys?

I feel like I’m bad at using demo shout and shield wall at the correct times.

[chilly brook]

Yes I am, also I’m a Soviet weapon enthusiast

[silk pine]

didnt found it 😦 Probably there is no webpage

[chilly brook]

At least I’m not a Francophile

[chilly brook]

This is something I’m trying to work on, but free time has been scarce

Generally though in keys right now with the current affix you want to be very proactive with shield wall

It’s a super short cooldowns with Urh

[fickle arrow]

That would be sick! Please find free time🤣

[chrome falcon]

Holy shit I’m in hospital so I haven’t been watching but are the stories about china MDI true

[fickle arrow]

Do you generally stack all the damage reduction abilities early on big pulls and hope your dps can nuke them? Or do you stagger them? Does it change drastically on different factors?

[chrome falcon]

Is it actually this much of a fiesta

[chilly brook]

Stacking is generally not a good idea

[chilly brook]

Hope you’re good

[chrome falcon]

Better than these fucking MDI players at least (thanks bro just routine stuff but still not fun wifi is shit)

[hazy edge]

This was the finals

[chrome falcon]

Apparently the admins had to literally stop a PF 23 because no one could finish it?

[dawn canyon]

ye

team that lost couldnt kill boss 1

so yea

[jagged pier]

i mean theres not much past, pressing your butttong correctly tbh like theres not really much to talk to its just usual warrior but u just press IP alot. 🤷

[fickle arrow]

Fair enough. Likely over thinking trying to get better. Beyond the little things I know I have to get better at. I anticipate there being some aha! Moment… like when I found out demo shout applied a damage reduction and isn’t a crappy AP reduction like it was in classic (where the bulk of my recent play time lies).

[chrome falcon]

Yeah a lot of players come in with some wild ideas because of classic prot warrior

Like threat being a huge part of the game or shield slam scaling with block rating

[blazing saffron]

To all the folks that helped me out a few days ago. Thank you! I still have improvements to make but the tips and tricks made warrior feel WAY better and necrolord feels insane

❤️

[quaint glade]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/kazzak/Lunaera

Can someone tell me if I can get 3k by doing Sanguine 20+ and HOA 20+, please?

Or shall I do couple more 21+s

[dawn canyon]

i think it might be close

but the fort keys 100% get u there

[quaint glade]

I’d like to get it this week

[dawn canyon]

21s then

matt im sorry its another pwar

in cn mdi

hes necro at least

[dawn canyon]

tank scaling per region

[timber slate]

Imagine playing DH

🤡

[dawn canyon]

dude their protman seems to be good

and theyre losing cuz they wiped a spicy pull

[timber slate]

They gonna say « pwar is bad »
Because of that

[dawn canyon]

drat said it was good into phys shit and noticed banenr 10 mins in

said smth about buffing

[hazy edge]

Andy is gunna start playing it prot war more soon and we’ll get redemption

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUEKTov-Tfs&t=378s
He’s already said he thinks it’s tied as 2nd best tank rn

[timber nest]

is keeping banner up for so long easy to do? or does it take some fine tuning?

[urban portal]

Def requires practice

[timber slate]

Did a 5 and mobs died way too fast to keep it up xD

Got carried hard

[safe thistle]

what do you do with jailer if you dont have dk to grab the p3 add after the torment ? were supossed to get some typhoon/pushback to gather them but meuh ppl aint quick enough

[timber nest]

what soulbind do we use?

[dawn canyon]

marileth

[naive panther]

i've been doing emeni in m+

is that wrong?

[timber dagger]

i play emeni too

[wraith hemlock]

Its not as strong as marileth and emeni fleshcraft required you to hrdcast it

While marileth is just tap and keep going and get buff froms everything you kill

A point could be made on the whole initial damage boost when using banner with emeni and dps stacking on u for banner and emeni buff

[paper mirage]

Wait, so you're picking up the endurance conduit instead of a potency in order to cast fleshcraft while moving?

[wraith hemlock]

I dont

I dont think I’ve even enabled emeni

But emeni loses potential if you dont hard cast fleshcraft

And marileth does not require that

[paper mirage]

gotcha, ty

[wraith hemlock]

See how emeni has the pustules thing? Which requires you to hard cast fleshcraft to get max amount

Marileth doesnt require that for u to grab essences

I mean hard casting fleschcraft is not the end of the world. To me it feels like an actually useful and sturdy extra defensive

[paper mirage]

yeah but don't you still need to refresh every couple of mins in order to pick up more essences? They are about 2 min buffs right?

[wraith hemlock]

Yeah but you dont need to stand still casting fleshcraft for that

You can immediately cancel it

[paper mirage]

oh, i never do that. i like the big shield . over40k

[wraith hemlock]

But it aint like I play around it to use it in that way

Yeah

And thats 3 seconds of lost banner uptime

[paper mirage]

yep

[wraith hemlock]

And you could’ve extended banner’s duration by 8/9ish seconds in those 3 seconds

Maybe less maybe more depending on current rage at the moment and if last stand was up or not or which rage soending abilities you used

[chilly brook]

don't ever full channel fleshcraft during banner

like ever

emeni is gross, marileth is the way

[urban portal]

Isn't that why ppl go bonesmith

So you don't bother every pressing fleshcraft

[chilly brook]

bonesmith is supposed to be more dam

marileth is just super well balanced

[urban portal]

I'm just not sure whether they fleshcraft in combat to refresh the buff

Too lazy to check

A long time ago I didn't see it

[chrome falcon]

Yeah I do

Sense has a nice WA that yells whenever it’s off CD so you tap it for mastery and any other buffs

[chrome falcon]

In a word, yes

[chrome falcon]

Get a DK would be my advice, or just make sure people try to stay close when they spread

[glacial flint]

lets see who is inviting my 0rio tank skillz

[dawn canyon]

That's a bit low haste

[glacial flint]

and to much mastery... who cares on low keys ? its my fury gear

[strong forum]

25% is fine tbh

[dawn canyon]

I could tell

[strong forum]

More is better but 25%is fine

[dawn canyon]

Youll be fine

OWS gonna bump it up too

[strong forum]

Also if its low keys why the fuck you running scale

[karmic plinth]

time for big critblock

[dawn canyon]

Opc

[glacial flint]

thats was the reason ^^ after i got everything i can loot with arms specc on vault.. i went prot... so 2nd id tank vault.. scale

so i give it a try again after year or so

my last scale was 220 in bank LUL

[strong forum]

DW you can safely stash away scale into your bank

[glacial flint]

im lacking trinkets, rings and neck anyway ^^

[strong forum]

That shit ain't useful until like 25+

[glacial flint]

and now u toss me trinkets i should wear instead - and i dont have them @strong forum

[strong forum]

Hah!

I wish I could tell you trinkets

But they're all fucking garbage

All of them

Every single one from current patch is mediocre

[jagged pier]

☝️

[glacial flint]

btw i dont have the 278 necro conduit.. where i could buy that mhmh

long time ago

[strong forum]

You have CE

So just buy the package

He's in Oribos now isn't he?

[glacial flint]

thought in cov base mhmh

[chrome falcon]

Nope

[jagged pier]

no its not the cov base

[chrome falcon]

It’s haven

Right?

[jagged pier]

its the quatermaster

[strong forum]

Ah nvm it's not CE

[jagged pier]

in yet zone for the rep

[glacial flint]

haven was for low ilvl only

[strong forum]

What's breaker of chains title?

[chrome falcon]

Sylvanas

[strong forum]

Sylv?

Ah right jailer was protector/guardian of the pattern right?

[chrome falcon]

278 cov conduit comes from mythic pantheon

Legit such a dogshit title from jailer

[strong forum]

I can see it making sense

Pattern as in the timeline

You've protected the timeline from being changed

[torpid carbon]

Both cov and oribos have the vendor

[chrome falcon]

Yeah it’s so clunky though

Give me a punchy one word one like Sinbreaker any day

[strong forum]

It's hard to come up with new stuff

[glacial flint]

found it 🙂

[strong forum]

After 15 years of titles

[glacial flint]

1200 for 1 conduit KEKW

[dawn canyon]

Famed jailer title bangs tho

[glacial flint]

so bad designed

[strong forum]

Famed titles are always cringe

Too long

What was jailer title again, famed slayer of the banished one?

[dawn canyon]

Something like that

[chrome falcon]

At least that sounds sufficiently edgy

[craggy pilot]

guess im back to creating my own keys

[dawn canyon]

Maw walker!

[craggy pilot]

got 22 streets, and timed 10 20+ keys

[dawn canyon]

Dude i cant hear it anymore

[craggy pilot]

no invites anywhere 😄

[glacial flint]

there were some times where i got this like 50x a day

[chrome falcon]

Required bdk to a 21

That’s so cringe

[craggy pilot]

haha ye

thought it was something with Necro

so i wrote im necro to them 😄

but declined insta

starting to get some crazy wrist pain tho, just feels horrible to quit wow at 2938 r.io

[chrome falcon]

Most bdks doing 21s aren’t going to be any better than any other class

[strong forum]

Bro I got fucking declined from 14s

[chrome falcon]

And they won’t have mace

[craggy pilot]

ye tru 😄

[strong forum]

I somehow got invited to a +17 and who'd've guessed

Ez +3

[craggy pilot]

i played my DK in blood the other day, and holy shit it feels bad to play

Frost is so much more fun

[strong forum]

Bdk is 1 button spec now

[craggy pilot]

ye i think i was doing some big things wrong 🤣

[dawn canyon]

I love how it went from intricute rune planning

And never capping rp

To uhh idk deathstrike at 70% and spam Hs

[strong forum]

To just sending it

Just fucking send it

[craggy pilot]

i had so much RP lol

it is so dumb like wtf

[dawn canyon]

Bone storm

2 globals back to 100

[trail rune]

you're perma capped on rp with dk

[craggy pilot]

ye i know

but Bone Storm is 2min CD 🤣

[strong forum]

1min

[dawn canyon]

1 min

No?

[craggy pilot]

ah

my mistake 😄

[strong forum]

It's a dps CD

Use it

Just treat it like avatar

[craggy pilot]

i was even forgetting to use Hands 🤣

[dawn canyon]

Cooldowns on cooldown

[strong forum]

[dawn canyon]

Kyr

[craggy pilot]

yeye im frost main

didnt play Kyr yet and dont rly wanna for an Alt

[dawn canyon]

Then why arent u NF

[strong forum]

Their kyr ability is lowkey dumb af

It's so much dmg

[craggy pilot]

because i dont like it 😄

its my alt, i play what is fun

[strong forum]

Useless in pure ST ofc

[dawn canyon]

Oh and if u ever needed MORE runes

[strong forum]

But my god

[dawn canyon]

Itll give u more shit

[dawn canyon]

My DK is frost necro too

HUGEST breaths

[craggy pilot]

necro is so much utility

[dawn canyon]

Slappy

[craggy pilot]

wouldnt Venthyr be huger breath? 🤔

[dawn canyon]

Doesnt do much on St

[trail rune]

i think nf breath is bigger than necro

[craggy pilot]

im only getting 30sec breath, but i think im just bad

[dawn canyon]

Yea NF is cracked at stacked

[craggy pilot]

NF spell just feels horrible in rotation

[dawn canyon]

With tier u can get like 1 min+

[craggy pilot]

D&D is not a part of Frost rotation

[trail rune]

ye you should be able to get 1min+ ezpz

[craggy pilot]

i have full tier @dawn canyon

[dawn canyon]

It's mainly about not capping

[craggy pilot]

doing 80k dps on openers in 258 ilvl 😄

[dawn canyon]

And not having erw macro'd into breath

That's also a big one

[craggy pilot]

oh so overcapping you should just wait until it drops, and then Oblit`?

im just spamming *Oblit like a MF

[trail rune]

you should aim to stay around 73 rp

[craggy pilot]

i always ERW in Breath

[craggy pilot]

even if runes are capped?

[dawn canyon]

Yes but not the second you use it

[trail rune]

erw when you're running low on runes

[craggy pilot]

ahh

[trail rune]

no if ur capped on runes send it

[craggy pilot]

so i go 90 RP

pop all + breath

wait a bit

then ERW

while spamming Oblit

[dawn canyon]

If ur at high rp

U can howling blast

[craggy pilot]

you mean with Rime

[dawn canyon]

Even without

But that's a high 80s/90s play

If i remember correctly bicepspump has a great Video on proper breath-ing

[craggy pilot]

but i can go to 120 RP

so isnt it a 110 play?

[dawn canyon]

Oh ye that's the old prio

I didnt play around with new runeforge yet

Since dk got shelved pre 4p

[craggy pilot]

maybe could even wait for a Hysteria proc, for even longer Breath 😄

but stuff dies before 30sec in M+ anyway so i dont rly mind too much

im not raiding on DK

[dawn canyon]

M+ it just has to last the entire Pack

[craggy pilot]

back to the regularly scheduled Warrior talk 😄

[dawn canyon]

Yessir

[craggy pilot]

anyone ever getting wrist issues around here?

i feel the new set is fucking with my hand from pressing so many buttons

[trail rune]

try changing your keybinds

[craggy pilot]

ye thinking i should use my pinkie less 🤔

but having a hard time since im leftie

cant rly think of a diff setup

maybe i shouuld get a wrist support

[strong forum]

if you experience any kind of pain

you need to change shit asap

dont fuck with health

[craggy pilot]

where are keybindings stored? in the WTF folder?

like could i make a backup, and then try new shit, and then revert if it doesnt work?

kinda wanna move my movement from WASD to ESDF or something 🤔

then i can move some keybindings from Pinkie to Pointer finger

[strong forum]

should be in WTF ye

[dawn canyon]

whats ur ip bind

[craggy pilot]

4

just keep in mind im leftie

mouse in left hand, keyboard right hand

[dawn canyon]

mhm that makes it a bit trickier yea

[craggy pilot]

exactly 😄

[dawn canyon]

is ur hand straight on wasd or diagonally

[craggy pilot]

how do you mean?

thumb resting right below Ctrl

if that makes sense

slightly diagonal

[dawn canyon]

thats what i was thinking of

im not a leftie myself but i can really see how thats a bad position for ur hand

it feels bad

maybe its my keyboard placement/unfamiliarity

[craggy pilot]

i have like this almost

beautiful drawing skills btw

[dawn canyon]

yea that makes it a lot better actually

just that 90% of ur binds are ringfinger/pinkie

[craggy pilot]

these are the bindings i use

ye YTGFV are all pinkie 🤣

and 5-6-7

if i move mobility to ESDF i will get QAZX to use, but Ctrl and Shift will be further away 🤔

[dawn canyon]

how do you jump

[craggy pilot]

space

[dawn canyon]

i mean what finger

[craggy pilot]

palm of the hand

bottom of pinkie

is also why i dont rly use Alt modifier, its rly awkward to reach

[dawn canyon]

im really intrigued by this but im unsure if i can actually help 😆

[glacial flint]

but more spammy things on your mouse.. RB BT for example i use on thumb button on mouse

[craggy pilot]

i have no buttons on my mouse other than Left Click Right click

[glacial flint]

u play wow. not chess. get a mouse

[dawn canyon]

i know people who use mousewheel binds

[glacial flint]

mousewheel click is my spellreflect

[dawn canyon]

i freed it up (zoom on shift mw up/down) but never actually used it

[strong forum]

i dont use rotational buttons on my mouse nor an mmo mouse

and mousewheel is entirely default camera zoom

[old nacelle]

use ps4 controller. ur fine

[craggy pilot]

mousewheel up, or click?

is it possible to make Space a modifier key? 🤔

like Space+1 keybind

[dawn canyon]

pilav uses mousewheel up for spell reflect

irc

[craggy pilot]

i would like to bind mousewheel to jump or something

then use Space as Modifier

[dawn canyon]

i have hamstring and heroic throw on mouse

rotation stays 234qerf

[glacial flint]

can necro protwarr do something pre- keystart?

besides fleshcraft

[craggy pilot]

why would you even fleshcraft pre keystart?

i always just do it in the bubble after keystart

otherwise it wont be on CD, and marileth wont work

[timber slate]

Hamstring shouldnt even be bound

[craggy pilot]

you never hamstring a Spiteful? 🤔

[jagged pier]

why would u not, u can use LS and commanding shout to increase the size of the shield and they reset when the key starts

[tranquil mortar]

Hey guys what covenant are you using for m+?

[strong forum]

necro

[craggy pilot]

tru, but then you need to fleshcraft again, or you wont get any Marileth mastery right?

[strong forum]

?

you keep the buff

[craggy pilot]

oh 😄

[jagged pier]

u keep the buff what?

[craggy pilot]

im idiot lol nvm

so you recast Fleshcraft after 1st pack then?

[strong forum]

or use it mid fight if need be

[craggy pilot]

LS + Shout + Fleshcraft before key, then Fleshcraft after 1st pack?

[craggy pilot]

full cast or nah?

[strong forum]

i never fullcast

unless i know my party is behind

[craggy pilot]

i sometimes full cast between packs

but feel like it might be wasteful

unless there is RP ofc

[strong forum]

i more than often just forget it

[chrome falcon]

If you could be moving to the next pack

[strong forum]

mid combat its not even worth the 1 global to use it for the buff*

[chrome falcon]

You should not be FCing

[strong forum]

btw

[craggy pilot]

i have "use fleshcraft you idiot" wa 🤣

[strong forum]

its a dps loss to apply the 120 mastery mid combat

unless ofc theres downtime

[tranquil mortar]

Can you guys elaborate on why necro is bis?

[dawn canyon]

it gives a lot of rage

we can get the banner permanently

it gives us a lot of damage

[tranquil mortar]

Permanent banner?

[dawn canyon]

yes

[tranquil mortar]

I was playing s2

[dawn canyon]

the covenant lego + reprisal + tier makes it possible

[blazing condor]

Since you got two leggos now you can use Glory

[tranquil mortar]

Cool

[blazing condor]

Which enables you to extend your banner indefinitely by spending rage

[tranquil mortar]

Oooh ic

I went nf cause the knockdown is og on some dungeons

[craggy pilot]

swapped ytg to zxc 🙂 hoping it will help a little

had pummel on pinkie, huge binding which i now moved to Z

new setup 😄

maybe should swap IP and Banner 🤔

[dawn canyon]

excute could be more acessable

[craggy pilot]

dont rly use it a lot with Prot

usually have it on where i have my taunt as Prot

but ye you have a point 🤔

[dawn canyon]

excute is great for prot too

my exe is on r for all specs but thats left hand on keyboard binds

[craggy pilot]

ye i should use R for a bind actually

i still use it for reply

[dawn canyon]

[glacial flint]

burn this standart bars... to wide spread 😄

[sick sentinel]

up to Y H B can be somewhat comfortable to press

[craggy pilot]

you missed half the convo brother

[sick sentinel]

i look on that action bar and i see like shift 1/2

[glacial flint]

first key.. top16 with 240 boostie in it ^^ guess tanks doesnt need healing anymore 😄

[dawn canyon]

left hand on mouse

[sick sentinel]

right hand mouse myself

[dawn canyon]

ye thats why their binds are different

[strong forum]

na bro, pwar literal floorpov havent you heard?

actually unplayable

[craggy pilot]

/s

[glacial flint]

true ..

[dawn canyon]

dratnos said we were worst tank

dont you listen guys?

you shoud immediately reroll

[craggy pilot]

reroll to boring tank meta

[glacial flint]

skill + fun > reroll

[sick sentinel]

i mean i'm bad thats for sure but i made an attempt 9.0 to 9.2 to get a single KSM

still no KSM

[dawn canyon]

this time round

best mount of the 3 anyways

[sick sentinel]

didn't feel this painful to try for ksm bfa

[craggy pilot]

this season is literally free KSM

gear carries so hard

unlimited Banner

20s feels like 15s in S1

in 15s it feels like interrupts are unimportant

[strong forum]

if i can +2 a 20 with a 5 tank group

[craggy pilot]

in 20s they are as important as they were in S1 15s

[strong forum]

surely you can get KSM

[sick sentinel]

i was considering rolling prot paladin or bdk last night

[craggy pilot]

bdk is horrible to play

prot paladin is boring as fk

[sick sentinel]

does it time keys easier?

thats all i would care about

[craggy pilot]

nah

you get invited easier, thats it

[sick sentinel]

bear is still good

[craggy pilot]

probably

but also boring (i heard, didnt try bear myself)

[sick sentinel]

i could have gone with that, could have had ksm all the other patches if i didn't limit myself to warrior

[craggy pilot]

probably not bro

[sick sentinel]

what do you mean sorry

[glacial flint]

thats why they play 4 dps... so they can play healer at the same time

[craggy pilot]

[dawn canyon]

ppal is neat but not pwar

[strong forum]

"they"

is zmok only

and hes done it every expansion

[craggy pilot]

if you cant on prot warr, you probably will have the same exact difficulties on other classes

[dawn canyon]

zmok is zmok tho

aka main healer

[sick sentinel]

so, you are saying you don't believe i could do ksm period is what it sounded like a bit

[dawn canyon]

pwar is more complex than other tanks

[strong forum]

yeah and since hpal is shit this season

hes prot only

hes turning into muskelbrug

[sick sentinel]

i dunno man, i don't wanna be talked down to no more, i know i suck

[strong forum]

from pushing keys to meme shit

[dawn canyon]

zmen the rshamn

[strong forum]

to weekly keys

[dawn canyon]

[sick sentinel]

i gave it a good shot, but i'm not good enough

[dawn canyon]

im fairly cetain it just came off wrong

[craggy pilot]

did you ever log a key?

[dawn canyon]

you are doin well and im sure you get it this time

[sick sentinel]

i did like 5 or so videos on youtube

and everytime its "hit more buttons hold W EEE ZZZ"

or its like, your not attacking for 5 seconds after you go in, or your not doing banner and this and that pre-pull but it has to be done in correct order

and you shouldn't macro anything together

[craggy pilot]

did you do video this patch?

i thought you said youre waiting for next expac and not playing 😉

[dawn canyon]

sadly those things go hand in hand

[glacial flint]

how many target needs TC with outburst to beat SS dmg ?

[dawn canyon]

never

[sick sentinel]

well, whats leading to where im going in and not attacking for 5 seconds, do i simply not attempt to, or im spamming at wrong target, i'm worried about doing some other mechanic

[dawn canyon]

the rage gain from outburst SS

[craggy pilot]

never TC with Tier

[dawn canyon]

is 2 revenges

whic always beats tc

[sick sentinel]

im trying to get to the point of where i fuck up and the process goes completely wrong

[glacial flint]

so SS always?

[strong forum]

technically never

[craggy pilot]

with Outburst yes

always use TC outside of Outburst

[sick sentinel]

and its too difficult for me, and i've recognized that now, so starting to give up again

[dawn canyon]

put tc on cd at 6ish stacks

[strong forum]

but in theory, every 3rd or so outburst will be spent on TC assuming SS CD and rage management to not actually lose dps

[craggy pilot]

maybe play Fury?

[dawn canyon]

didnt you get a 14 timed already

this season i mean

[sick sentinel]

because either i'm not getting the right information or not applying it right or something

[strong forum]

and in practice youll have to probably slap an outburst TC on pull for threat

at the cost of overall dps

[dawn canyon]

i can assure you the yellows dont give you wrong info

[sick sentinel]

no, but hold W urh go BRR its easy just a 15 bro doesn't exactly feel helpful.

[craggy pilot]

did you do a video this season yogi?

[sick sentinel]

i can tank 15 nw naked with just my shield its so easy...

not too assuring for me

[craggy pilot]

oh hes on a tangent, not reading what i ask

ok

whatever

[dawn canyon]

they say that cuz they are very sure of their play

once ur feeling comfortable

[sick sentinel]

i did a video of 13 streets or something

[dawn canyon]

you will be able to say the same

[strong forum]

youve received a multitude of tips, pointers and exact reasons as to whats going on since bfa where you started out as a clicker

[craggy pilot]

send plz

[strong forum]

so i feel its a bit disingenuous to now say youve received wrong info

[dawn canyon]

its in log review

you have to scroll up a bit

[sick sentinel]

I'm not really even mad

[craggy pilot]

found it ty

will take a look

[sick sentinel]

i'm just more fucking confused

[strong forum]

keys are alot harder than theyve been in bfa

[craggy pilot]

13 streets timed 🤔 whats the issue then?

0 deaths even

[strong forum]

like ALOT harder

and pwar can no longer be summed up in my neat copy pasta from back in the day

[craggy pilot]

was with TC spam?

[jagged pier]

we've given you the correct information every single step of the was u just dont apply or apear to apply any of the information we have provided you over the course of the expansion

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/ggMYzDO.png

[craggy pilot]

seems like the same as it is now no?

[jagged pier]

:noted:

[strong forum]

nah

the LS stuff, + banner management + outburst + reprisal is missing

• SW management

[craggy pilot]

ah ye tru

[sick sentinel]

like i say, i get into keys and i try, but i just constantly feel afraid and confused in the keys

[strong forum]

at this point i'd just say try to go as dps

you have 0 responsibility as a dps

and can relax

alot easier to get KSM that way without the pressure of having to know everything

[sick sentinel]

i'm trying to attack shit and do the right things and fast enough,

[strong forum]

the copy pasta is also no longer true regarding the dps rotation since youll have to manage revenge vs ip alot more

in BFA revenge was absolutely dogshit

[sick sentinel]

theres just clearly something fundamental to this spec that i JUST DONT GET

[dawn canyon]

it boils down to making red bar go up

[sick sentinel]

theres some part of it i can't undrestand

[dawn canyon]

if you were to explain someone else how to play prot

what would you tell them

[tame jasper]

Yeah 🥳 my first 24 (NW and HoA) and 25 (HoA) done 🥳

[strong forum]

nice

[dawn canyon]

gz

[tame jasper]

thx ❤️

[sick sentinel]

"Do not continue , turn back while there's still time!"

/s no i would say charge at the monster and attack and maybe use shieldblock from time to time.

[solar crown]

Is it possible to run ~20 keys without a healer as pwar? If so, is there any streamers out there I can watch?

[craggy pilot]

"from time to time" 🤣

[dawn canyon]

no healer condition aside plka is a great pwar streamer to watch

[craggy pilot]

@sick sentinel but honestly whats the issue, you have a +13 timed with 0 deaths? should be possible to do 15s timed then as well?

[solar crown]

Yes, but plka is mostly playing his brew now (?). I know about him anyways, i'm just interested in seeing a pwar run stuff without a healer, and its actually possible as we dont have that much self-healing

and if*

[dawn canyon]

plka is back to pwar iirc

since they finished the tier

[craggy pilot]

the entire video has asmongold on top of it 🤣

[strong forum]

yes

[solar crown]

Aha, ok. Feels like i've seen him play anyhing BUT his pwar on his last couple of streams. Must be some weekly-stuff then

[sick sentinel]

zack rawr side to be fair, but yeah lol

and hes bitching about addons or something

[dawn canyon]

addons good if used well

[strong forum]

in a good group, a pwar doesnt even need healing in a 25

[dawn canyon]

if you check effective healing required in prot logs

often times they are below dps

[strong forum]

this is a TOP 25 tyr

ehrps

[sick sentinel]

this is like saying a boeing 711 doesn't need a a pilot or air traffic controller on either side of the airports and we will trust the boeing to land automatically with next to no assistance

if you ask me about 25 and no healer

yeah, it could happen, maybe... i'm not gunna go for that any time soon...

[strong forum]

this was a question about it being possible

[solar crown]

Nice, i'll try to find some stuff on sense' stream 🙂 Thank you

[strong forum]

not if any random andy could do it

cuz chances are very high

that not alot of people are playing well enough

[solar crown]

Yes, i was just wondering if it was possible or not 🙂

Might be a fun way to run keys, to spice things up

[sick sentinel]

i cannot overemphasize how much hell that would be for me in a 25 key with no healer

[strong forum]

its absolutely possible to do +20 without healer, it might be spicey in some keys, but absolutely no issue

desmephisto even has a +20 PF done with 5 warriors

[dawn canyon]

what was the lock doin

[blazing condor]

healin

[dawn canyon]

if hes above hunt

[sick sentinel]

i did a bunch of videos but i deleted them last year

[lofty widget]

the hunter is low on ehrps because you cant heal oneshots

[strong forum]

ive also just uploaded a +20 PF with 5 tanks to youtube, but i dont tank alot cuz i was playing like a subrogue going for prio dmg cuz not alot of ST dmg to be had and im not good at padding in aoe vs 2 vdhs 😄

[sick sentinel]

kinda wish kept them all online and then could have people look for scenarios to lead to were i do the same thing and fuck over team again

and put a pin point on the events that happen as it goes to shit

[strong forum]

top has a lot of group dmg going out

maybe just rng

[dawn canyon]

or its the ilvl

[strong forum]

thats also a factor

[dawn canyon]

but lock shouldnt need too much since dark pact is fucking broken

[craggy pilot]

yogi

[dawn canyon]

we cant know ig

[craggy pilot]

@sick sentinel what kind of notes do you want?

[strong forum]

Xav would like a word

[craggy pilot]

im watching ur video and alrdy filled a notepad in the first 2 pulls 🤣

[dawn canyon]

ok fairs

[sick sentinel]

i'm trying to look for key moments that cause me to clearly stop thinking about doing the correct thing i am doing

because whatever it is im sure its the same thing over and over and over

people say i'm not attacking, not using CDs correct time

[strong forum]

sensory overload

[craggy pilot]

biggest note i have is your Rage bar is FUCKING TINY WTF

[strong forum]

is my guess

[craggy pilot]

like why is it so tiny

so much weird stuff going on here

is this ElvUI or something?

[dawn canyon]

tukui

iirc

[sick sentinel]

elvui and poorly placed weak auras

tukui yeah

[craggy pilot]

on your character frame, why is there a big black bar below ur rage?

and why is your rage so thin

its literally impossible to see ur rage

[dawn canyon]

i can send you this rage bar right now if you want yogi

[craggy pilot]

and wtf is the P / M on top of ur unit frame

[craggy pilot]

chill, he dont need more weakauras before he clears the other ones 🤣

[sick sentinel]

effective physical and magical damage health

[craggy pilot]

wtf is that useful for?

its useless clutter rly

and u have some weird % on top of ur hp bar that goes randomly from 0% to 262% ?

and all this incomming healing is VERY big which you dont rly need to look at

[sick sentinel]

move speed,

[craggy pilot]

inc healing and parry and shit, doesnt need to know that

movespeed ah, its fine to track, but doesnt need to be in the center of the screen lol

move it way off to the side

same with the weird mitigation HP

[sick sentinel]

all the bottom ones dont load at once, it shows maybe 1-3 of them at any given time

[chrome falcon]

What is that giant block of buttons on the left

[craggy pilot]

WA showing duration of Intervene / Charge etc i guess

[dawn canyon]

its from a weakaura pack and is supposed to go middle of the screen below the rest of the weakaura

[sick sentinel]

https://wago.io/HJnU6WWrX probably this

[dawn canyon]

yup

[chrome falcon]

Anyway I’m late to this convo but if you’re actually going 5 seconds without pressing any attacks then I really don’t know

[sick sentinel]

so i'm simply not attacking for 5 seconds or im not even attempting to

[chrome falcon]

Why

[blazing condor]

you always give a lot of back and dont face mobs properly from what ive seen

[dawn canyon]

the UI certainly is playable but it makes it a lot harder than a clean one would

[blazing condor]

so no wonder you cant attac

facing the wrong way

[dawn canyon]

how do you turn your character yogi

[craggy pilot]

the big issues i saw in your video is also not using Intervene a single time for the first 2 packs

guess it goes through the whole video

[chrome falcon]

No intervene is super minor

In the grand scheme of things

[craggy pilot]

well, same with no Charge

[chrome falcon]

You can do 15s without wearing reprisal

[craggy pilot]

but if you do both of them, and not pressing SB, then its kinda pepega

[chrome falcon]

So not optimising it isn’t the reason

[craggy pilot]

can you send this in highres somehow?

[chrome falcon]

What

[sick sentinel]

turn as in turn camera is right mouse buttons and drag

[chrome falcon]

The image looks fine

[sick sentinel]

strafe left and strafe right

[chrome falcon]

Wait what

Oh ok you edited

[blazing condor]

do people not turn their cameras

[chrome falcon]

No I just interrupted my sentence when he edited

[blazing condor]

makes it hella easy to move and see shit yo

thought so lol

[sick sentinel]

the camera is in fixed mode and doesn't move until i tell it to typically

[chrome falcon]

Yeah that’s fine

When you say you’re not attacking forn5 seconds

I still don’t understand

Like you’re not melee swinging?

Or you’re just not pressing any buttons

[sick sentinel]

somebody posted that in the log review and i'm pretty sure its been a recurring complaint

[chrome falcon]

Ok I mean that seems like an easy problem to fix?

[craggy pilot]

so for UI i would do these few things YOGI:
move Physical+Magical Mitigation numbers off to the side, maybe near your "pull size" whatever WA that is
same with movespeed %, move it away
Mage your rage bare FAT, so you can actually see at a glance how much rage you have, maybe use some of that "black bar" real estate you have
Remove the IP wa bar you have on the left, and make the SB use the entire space (double thickness)
Move the Charge+Intervene Shining WA over to the SB timer

@sick sentinel ^

just to show you how a real rage bar looks (this is even on the small side of things)

[sick sentinel]

only reason IP stays around is because was only WA i ever found that properly displayed the number of IP absorb it had left

[chrome falcon]

Your rage bar is literally more important than your hp bar

Ok but why do you need to know how much IP you have left

That is literally never going to be useful info

[craggy pilot]

you dont need to know how much IP absorb you have left

it doesnt matter

only SB is important

which is why SB should be twice as thick, and IP removed

[chrome falcon]

Well it should also be in a place you can SEE it

Not next to your chat bar…

[craggy pilot]

well that too, didnt wanna say it cus i dont know how "comfy" of a spot that is to him

and theres already a lot of clutter in the middle of his screen

i would also remove that addon you have that is showing "friendly heals" with icons of what heal you are being healed by 🤣

[sick sentinel]

i think i at one point turned off damage numbers for some reason

[timber slate]

Also what is the meaning of 220k/111k?

[strong forum]

220k physical EHP

[sick sentinel]

220 phsyical damage 111k magical

[strong forum]

111k magical EHP

[craggy pilot]

but all you need to worry about, is stacking mobs up so people can do dmg to them
focusing on your rage bar
using Reprisal (Intervene+Charge+SB)

[sick sentinel]

i could take roughly 220k physical, like the attack says 220k on paper,

[timber slate]

Why would you track that

[craggy pilot]

😄

[strong forum]

it used to be useful in BFA for uunat, and then people just kinda copied it cuz it looked cool

but in actual gameplay its useless

[sick sentinel]

block and armor hugely reduces how much you take im not sure why i have it i just know that i do have it

[craggy pilot]

its similar to those WA that show "haste, crit etc %" for streamers

so they dont have to open their chat frame all the time

[timber slate]

Elvui has it on the bottom of the screen

[strong forum]

which is a dogshit weakaura btw

[craggy pilot]

😄

[dawn canyon]

only lags game out

[strong forum]

it eats unnecessary amounts of resources

[craggy pilot]

same as showing Talents etc

but every top streamer has it 🤷‍♀️

[sick sentinel]

the one that showed "haste, crit etc %" was nice to track if you got some random buff oh i have 114% versa rn wtf?

[strong forum]

idk how much resources the talent thingy eats

but the stat one is massive cpu hog

[timber slate]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-thats-what-she-said-gif-4084628

[craggy pilot]

what other info does that help than "wtf" 🤔

and only time it happens is in PF if you stand in red shit + fleshcraft, and you have 120% haste

[chrome falcon]

I think a problem that might be happening is overthinking stuff

[craggy pilot]

yes

which is why i suggested to remove some of the clutter 😄

[chrome falcon]

I’m pretty sure you can time a 15 if you just slam SB on cool-down

[sick sentinel]

nomer is saying its overload

[chrome falcon]

You’ll have like 70% blocked hits which is fine for 70

Yes

Massive overload

[craggy pilot]

also maybe turn off the Asmongold stream while doing keys

[chrome falcon]

If I wasn’t in hospital I’d post mine but I don’t have it saved anywhere on my phone

[sick sentinel]

nome thinks i'm getting frontloaded with a truckload of information and not being able to act

[chrome falcon]

Yes

[craggy pilot]

do you have DBM or LittleWigs? @sick sentinel

[chrome falcon]

The only info you actually need is like

Your CDs, your rage bar, if shield block is up

[chrome falcon]

Anything else is pointless

[sick sentinel]

apparently neither DBM or little wigs

[craggy pilot]

thats what i said like 10 minutes ago wtf 🤣

[sudden sluice]

What's this addon called, again? It looks good.

[chrome falcon]

Ok I would definitely get a boss mod installed

If you don’t have one

[craggy pilot]

EasyFrames

[chrome falcon]

Because… ok surely you have a boss mod installed

Right?

[sick sentinel]

but i have some little voice thing that calls out "interupt" "targeting you" "defensive"

[sudden sluice]

Thanks!

[chrome falcon]

Ok I genuinely think

[sick sentinel]

whenever some important thing happens it speaks to me "interupt"

[chrome falcon]

You need to burn your whole UI to the ground

[craggy pilot]

DBM or LittleWigs/BigWigs would help you, it calls out a LOT of mechanics

[chrome falcon]

It has a bunch of shit

You don’t even know what it is

All the important info is in random places

Delete the whole thing and start new

Is what I would do

[solar crown]

I would suggest backing up what you have, then delete it all and get what plka is using (from this discord)