protection

[lyric geode]

Butcher from upper platform in NW, matriarch from ardenwield on DoS. Preferably these packs needs to be packed seperately from the big pull.

[ruby locust]

Then one of the dps or heals go kyrian instead of you it’s simple as that but affix this week are actually not bad use the spiteful on a range to charge away from mobs or leap or if your a void elf use your port there’s plenty of options to get away it’s just knowing a safe stack to get away and what you feel comfortable with

I’m definitely not a expert though and just learning as I go just explaining my experiences more then anything

[lyric geode]

This week that I play as fury, what I do if I see my tank has stacks, I challengin shout and heroic leap.

[chrome falcon]

lol holy shit please don't do that

[fierce quarry]

thats pretty risky tech

[chrome falcon]

no it's just fucking stupid

[fierce quarry]

Unless ur tank is also prot wadr

[urban portal]

why cant you make your tank do that instead

[chrome falcon]

gotta consider who we're talking to here

[fierce quarry]

Anyway thank u all for the inputs :')

[ruby locust]

That’s a death wish

[lyric geode]

To be fair, i have tested this on low keys (15-17) with good results.

[ruby locust]

It’s still scary deathwish chilling

[chrome falcon]

yeah you do 0 damage for like 6+ seconds and pull the mobs away

sounds awesome

[lyric geode]

If the tank doesnt know how to kite, let me do its job for him.

[urban portal]

at least 2 people a seething

every time you do that

arent you literally the guy who didnt wanna play tank this week because you didnt wanna kite

[lyric geode]

Correct, but I dont want to waste time, dying. And i literally have run 20 runs of nw.

[chrome falcon]

woah! 20!

it's a terrible idea if one of my dps did that i'd tell them i'm leaving if they did it again

you ruin your own damage and the damage of anyone who has aoe effects on the ground

[lyric geode]

It is quite annoying when you need an item and all you get is finger.

[urban portal]

i see

so you love kiting as a dps but not as a tank

[lyric geode]

@urban portal !

[lime urchin]

🍿

[timber slate]

Dude tagging himself in his own comments

[lyric geode]

do you want me to copy paste again my speach?

[ruby locust]

[toxic pewter]

what is a prot warriors favorite dps spec

[strong forum]

ww and enha

[toxic pewter]

is ww hard to play

[timber slate]

Spam crane kick

[toxic pewter]

how much of the chi spheres are part of the spec, is it constant having to monitor that crap

sort of like rogue combo points

[ruby locust]

Kinda only thing I know about windwalker is you don’t wanna hit the same button twice or something to that nature

[toxic pewter]

wish goblins could be monks

would make one immediately

[chrome falcon]

yes monks key resource is unfortunately part of the spec

[urban portal]

clearly you havent looked at the python notebook

[timber slate]

Also WW playstyle is

[ruby locust]

O I have not

[urban portal]

it goes crazy

[vernal vale]

I'm sleeping on this week havent run any dungeons as a 10 hour workday destroys mental energy.

I was looking forward to it as well.

[honest parcel]

Thank you so much for the long feedback! Will definitely work on that and for sure next week we'll kill them 😄 qq, what's bss?

Luckily noone blamed me more than I blamed myself for the wipe at 1% health

[vital hearth]

You think this shield is any good? I am on the fence if having a regular shield with constant secondary stats is the better pick.

[civic torrent]

BSS is blood spattered scale

[civic torrent]

is equivalent to 285 shield block value

gut feel is that shield is good for Raid, 278 shield better for M+ due to stats, but probably small, completely unsure though

[urban portal]

both are very minor

[ruby locust]

I got one of those shields but can’t say I’ve tried it

[timber slate]

The on use effect is probably a meme i guess?

[civic torrent]

You wanna keep it on Defense mode 100% of the time

[chrome falcon]

the offence mode is so bad that it's honestly funny

i think it's 37 damage to melee attackers

at 278 ilvl

[timber slate]

Thorns ripoff lol

[chrome falcon]

emphasis on off

[median tulip]

It does a reasonably chunky ST hit when you use it to get it back to Def mode

[chrome falcon]

because that's what it always is

[uncut zephyr]

Attack mode

[jagged pier]

its good not as good as something the same ilvl with stats i keep in defensive mode and its better in m+ than raid because u take far more blockable damage

[median tulip]

I quite like the concept of that shield, but the execution is piss-poor

[chrome falcon]

they legit forgot to put an extra 0 at the end of the damage in offence mode

[civic torrent]

There you go

[vital hearth]

It does a reasonably chunky ST hit when you use it to get it back to Def mode
So I simmed it. Feels sour that it does less (-170) Single Target than a 272 Shield.

[chrome falcon]

yeah but defensively it'll be a big gap

with 6 ilvls as well

[jagged pier]

of course it will be less damage it hasnt got any stats

its good defensivly tho

[vital hearth]

I like the gimmick that you could potentially save one from death though. The Defensive Mode on-use is a 31K shield.

[jagged pier]

its like an extra 4% DR on blockable attacks

[chrome falcon]

tbh i should probably put it on my bars just in case i could save someone

[vital hearth]

Just wish you could skip out on the offensive mode to be honest.

[jagged pier]

u can

dont press the onuse

[distant crystal]

🧠

or press it once if it's currently on offense

[chilly brook]

bring back chi as a resource please

[vital hearth]

Was thinking more in the sense that it wouldn't switch over to Offensive Mode once you use it to (potentially) save somebody.

[chilly brook]

just leave it in defensive mode

it's not worth touching

[sick sentinel]

C tier MDI incoming, 20 minutes

[dawn canyon]

Ty for reminder

[ruby locust]

Would love to see a protections warrior in there for Atleast once

[sick sentinel]

besides doing weekly whats best way to fill up ally % quest?

WQ probably? chest and rares don't give shit for completion really

[distant crystal]

patterns?

just do WQ's every day & worldboss

kill a rare/loot a chest on your way

if you wanna rush it you can do the dailies

[sick sentinel]

48%, was at 2% when i started yesterday

[timber slate]

Rare gives about 5%

[sick sentinel]

finally unlocked flying so then i did 46%

[timber slate]

World boss gives 20%

Been busy farming netherwing rep
Got the achievement for defeating Skyshatter👀

[sick sentinel]

i got caught up in LFR thought because i needed the points to do my m+ chest piece, thats a really underrated source of cosmic fluxes, each boss you kill is garunteed to drop 150, and then the big elites drop around 100 each

you can get about 1.5--2k just from clearing LFR and it's trash

[timber slate]

Chests give 200 when you loot for the first time

[sick sentinel]

cuz, i've got 5/5 4/5 non lfr set, and 291 signet and 291 rep

thats alot of fluxes

[timber slate]

Signet on a prot👀

[sick sentinel]

for arms/fury cuz WotB sucks and doesn't proc off 4set

[timber slate]

Arms dont use signet anymore

[sick sentinel]

i can learn either treblim understanding or sopranian learning, soon which is more important for ZM?
i need either 141 or 181 robot points, no idea what robot buddy does besides that i need him for a few quests

[tropic linden]

Important for what?

Because both are pretty unimportant

U just want the one that get u the mounts

[dawn canyon]

You get em all eventually

[tropic linden]

He does nothing

Important

[sick sentinel]

the first 3 ones on the second row, you get 1 rank of them and they unlock more WQ in more locations, which i assume, is more/faster rep

[dawn canyon]

Thats mandatory

Rest doesnt matter

[wraith hemlock]

between that and skollex shield which one is better?

[jagged pier]

skolex if its the same ilvl

almost like i said that

[wraith hemlock]

oh my bad

I didn't scroll up that much

but thanks for answering my question nonetheless ❤️

[strong forum]

oh yeah this is how i like my m+

only get rings cloaks and necks

[sick sentinel]

Thats only thing that exists in m+ cloaks and rings and mostly bad trinkets

[torpid junco]

can anyone link WA man managing our outbust and what not? is there one for banner uptime to?

[dawn canyon]

Pins

For Banner id just track the buff

[sick sentinel]

Alpha brawl👀

[knotty leaf]

Hey how good is the shield from vigilant guardian?

[dawn canyon]

Scroll up a bit

[strong forum]

why are suddenly so many people asking about this shield

legit like 4 people today alone

[chilly brook]

is it an ilvl upgrade?

if yes

it's the best shield you can use

if no then it's slightly better defensively at same ilvl and worse offensively

[knotty leaf]

ty was just asking for my co-tank 🙂

[chilly brook]

why can't he do his own research

[dawn canyon]

He's a warrior.. You know how warriors are

[knotty leaf]

cos hes a warrior xD

[chilly brook]

I mean so are we....

[knotty leaf]

im not im a DK

im an imposter

[dawn canyon]

I can wholeheartedly recommend this channel for your warrior friend

Very knowledgable and skilled pwars here

[sick sentinel]

< - not one

pepega warrior

[dawn canyon]

<- me only parrot Info from smart andies 🔽 ☁️

[strong forum]

<- ☁️

[dawn canyon]

^ ☁️

[sick sentinel]

nomer actually understands whats going on

[chilly brook]

<-

[dawn canyon]

⏫

[chilly brook]

^ :true

[gray iris]

damn on 16+ healer only did 3.2k hps

[chilly brook]

did you die tho

[gray iris]

I got wrecked on nw

[chilly brook]

did he at least do damage

[sick sentinel]

nome "prot warrior only requires 1.3khps"

i think that was the number he give

[gray iris]

yeah after second boss i died a lot lol

[sick sentinel]

aha, he did die

[gray iris]

damn used every damn CD and still got owned by mobs

[strong forum]

i mean

is fine?

[sick sentinel]

any log or video or explanation what you think went wrong?

[urban portal]

Who parrygod

That’s blood dk

[gray iris]

i thik i got so focused on survival that i forgot to do basic things like sb effectively

[urban portal]

Then you didn’t focus on survival

[gray iris]

i only have 21% haste which is killing me i think

no matter how hard i try i cant get banner to go over 45 seconds lol.Even if i try on a dummy

[chilly brook]

no lol

your stats are irrelevant

[chilly brook]

then you're majorly messing up somewhere

[tropic linden]

If u post a log will be easier to help

[sick sentinel]

your character sheet or name & server could help too

[gray iris]

Yeah ill post the next log

Icarium_Skullcrusher

[sick sentinel]

https://raider.io/characters/us/skullcrusher/Icarium ?

[gray iris]

i think i have a skill gap..will take time to get better

[gray iris]

yeah

[sick sentinel]

that i believe is his profile, he has 3/4

[chilly brook]

@gray iris my man

[gray iris]

what is 3/4

[chilly brook]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XnQvqRGgkLBxVjwA#fight=11&type=casts&source=9

these shield slam casts

no wonder you can't sustain banner

[dawn canyon]

Good name

[chilly brook]

your shield slam casts per minute should be at least double that

you're missing ravager casts for sure

[gray iris]

yeah i need to work hard

[median tulip]

Don't forget idiots bursting Vy for their personal DPS instead of taking Urh

[chilly brook]

my DoS is only 5 minutes longer and I have 20 more ravagers

your avatar casts are really low

you only used last stand once

you should be popping that in tandem with banner

[sick sentinel]

do a +33, WTF you have no life LOSER

[chilly brook]

everytime

you have very low charges and intervenes

[gray iris]

yes sir, noted

will have to work on all these things

[chilly brook]

The biggest thing is you're just not casting something every global

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1GPMO1Bp6k

[chilly brook]

You should be the top of casts

[minor helm]

Shit bucket

[chilly brook]

your IP casts are insanely low

only 40 for the whole dungeon?

[gray iris]

Oh damn... Yeah i do miss out on revenges a lot

[sick sentinel]

no sex = + kills, sex = -kills

[minor helm]

I miss bf3 days

No one calls me a shit bucket no more and I got no hoes either way

[gray iris]

\When i do ip's i run out of rage

[minor helm]

[chilly brook]

97 shield block casts seems low as well

mine is only 5 minutes longer and I have 192

[chilly brook]

rage is a non-issue when running necro and 4p

[urban portal]

Do I tell him about the forbidden macro

[gray iris]

Damn i want to get to this level..

[timber slate]

Macro IP to revenge?

[chilly brook]

well really it's a non-issue with 2p

[gray iris]

what is 2p and 4p?

[chilly brook]

tier set

2 piece and 4 piece

[gray iris]

i dont know what that is lol

[chilly brook]

I'd wager you're wasting outburst on thunderclap

[gray iris]

i keep tc on cd

[median tulip]

You should try to never waste Outburst procs on TC

Shield Slam gives far more Rage

[dawn canyon]

also if the damage concerns you

the rage from SS outburst

[median tulip]

Thunderclap is basically a trap button when Outburst is up

[dawn canyon]

is 2 revenges

which beats outburst TC

[chilly brook]

yep

half your outbursts were wasted on TC

that's a massive rage loss

[gray iris]

NL is very new to me.. I have only played kyrian this whole game...

[dawn canyon]

and the increased rage makes it even more worthwhile

[chilly brook]

doesn't matter what covenant outburst should 95% of the time be used on shield slam

[toxic pewter]

Is there anything to be said to never use thunderclap? Simply use the global on something more useful? Like unbind thunderclap altogether?

just revenge instead

then again lose the 5 rage..

just realized that is dumb

[gray iris]

Yeah i need to fix a lot of things

[chilly brook]

focus on filling every global with something

and more specifically

[dawn canyon]

abc

[gray iris]

I have been mindlessly doing dungeons without looking at the data

[chilly brook]

hitting shield slam as soon as it's up

[dawn canyon]

always be casting

unless its TC during outburst

[chilly brook]

focus on those two things first

[gray iris]

ok got you

[chilly brook]

Well

Actually

Just focus on hitting Shield Slam on CD

the global thing is kinda a farce since we don't have a filler

[dawn canyon]

shieldslam THE spec

[gray iris]

i waste a lot of time pressing avatar then ravager and then i do sb and ss

[chilly brook]

Use Ignore Pain to help you from capping rage

[chilly brook]

ravager isn't a waste of time

nor is avatar

1. ravager is huge rage

2. avatar is off GCD

So is shield block

[dawn canyon]

pre place ravager and then charge in

[gray iris]

yeah now i understand...will focus on ss....

sometimes i press revenge when ss is up

then i run out of rage and wait for either ss or tc to show up

[chilly brook]

Just to put it in persepctive

you're handicapping your rage gen quite heavily

[gray iris]

damn your rage is almost always over 25

[urban portal]

you gotta spend rage to gain it back

[dawn canyon]

look at the number

[urban portal]

thats what my mom told me

[dawn canyon]

he doubles rage gen

[chilly brook]

always keep around 30 to use shield block

[chilly brook]

more than double

[tropic linden]

The main thing is: try to improve 1 thing at a time

If u try to juggle all the tips ur gonna fumble

[chilly brook]

shield slam is going to be the biggest rage generation fix

hence why I'm saying to focus on it

[tropic linden]

Do a key and focus on using SS on CD

[gray iris]

alright thanks so much for the insight man

[tropic linden]

And never IP if ur not gonna overcap

[gray iris]

this i do everytime when i panic

[chilly brook]

if you panic you're going to sabotage yourself as prot

[tropic linden]

IP is a shit defensive skill for the cost

It won't help u survive

[chilly brook]

as prot you have to use things before the damage comes out not after

[gray iris]

yeah i literally thought of it as a survival skill

[chilly brook]

so panic hitting shield wall

or IP

hurts you

[tropic linden]

If u shield wall when ur at 30% health, u pressed it too late

[sick sentinel]

its hard to get in habit but you want to hit SW early rather than late

[gray iris]

i sometimes take huge damage despite sb up

[tropic linden]

Not everything is blockable

That's why we have SR, Demo Shout

And kicks

[chilly brook]

^

[tropic linden]

But we are one of the tanks that suffer most from lack of kicks

[gray iris]

I like Griff's idea of doing shit before taking damage rather than reacting

[chilly brook]

That's the mindset you have to have if you want to play prot successfully in anything other than content you overgear or is tuned to be easy

Like in DoS

[gray iris]

DoS mobs are crazy difficult

[chilly brook]

the caster pack on the left before ardenweald and on the right before hakkar

we can't block spells

and they chain cast

so ideally you roll into those packs with defensives available

and use shield wall before you get chunked

then once that's down, maybe pop your scale

[gray iris]

shiel wall is only 8 seconds

[chilly brook]

use Spell Reflect

then if you don't have anything left in the tank for defensives get the healers barkskin

[gray iris]

alright, you have been a huge help man... for now ill focus on ss

[chilly brook]

the pack shouldn't live super long

[gray iris]

i seem to miss out on the ss cast a lot

[chilly brook]

yep

just focus on that

then we can move onto fixing other things

🙂

one step at a time and before you know it you'll see a huge difference

[tropic linden]

Now with Wo we don't need to do those 2 hard pulls in DOS one after another

[gray iris]

haha yeah...

[tropic linden]

Or use hero on the first pull

And all ur defensives for the second one

And remember that u have a fear and a stun for the casters

But ur team need to kick

[gray iris]

yeah i get you.... Shadowcore cast is what i fear the most..

[median tulip]

Honestly with Urh those packs aren't even difficult back to back. You'll have Shield Wall for both

[gray iris]

There are so many things happening at the same time during these pulls

[chilly brook]

part of it is getting used to everything

Which is why focusing on one thing at a time is helpful, at some point that one thing that you had to focus on becomes second nature

[median tulip]

My group usually dumps an Earth Elemental on the first platform in order to soak the bonesoldiers shadow damage instacast

[chilly brook]

so then you focus on the other thing

and that becomes second nature

[gray iris]

yeah this is what life is i guess xd

[chilly brook]

eventually you instinctively just do and that leaves you with a lot of situational awareness

we all had to start somewhere

I used to be a green parsing Andy who asked a lot of stupid questions in here

[jagged pier]

i used to click 👍

all takes time

[gray iris]

yup illl keep on going but will never give up lol

[chilly brook]

The important thing is to just set goals for yourself and continually grind to get better

[vernal vale]

Tackle them one thing at a time.

[chilly brook]

The upside of knowing you have a lot to work on is that you have lots of goals

[gray iris]

yeah true

[vernal vale]

I've been slapping one problem at a time to get better and better.

[chilly brook]

if only I could get as good as @jagged pier

[sick sentinel]

note to self if you get the teleport mark dont run to a trap on artificer

[chilly brook]

[vernal vale]

Went from 3k wasted rage in a dungeon to under 1k now.

[mighty valley]

fighting games were good for my learning mindset

[vernal vale]

Still working on improving it.

[chilly brook]

same actually

[mighty valley]

"how do i react to all of this" you can't and you shouldn't try

[chilly brook]

I was the most competitive I ever was in Siege when I picked up For Honor and really grinded that game to try and get super good

[vernal vale]

Looking at the logs I would say spend time on a dummy making sure you get every global filled.

[gray iris]

I only started playing wow like a year ago but this game is addictive af lol

[chilly brook]

most globals*

[vernal vale]

Best way to initially improve your cast count.

[vernal vale]

True enough

[chilly brook]

we do occasionally have dead globals

[vernal vale]

Stupid outburst ready and only Thundercats available.

[chilly brook]

mostly when you have outburst and shield slam isn't up but you can't revenge either because you almost have a second one

[gray iris]

how do you know your every global is filled?

[vernal vale]

That's my biggest waste for global

[chilly brook]

try to hit something as soon as that rotational clock animation on your buttons goes full circle

every time

[mighty valley]

you can start mashing a little before to make sure the server recognizes your button press asap

[gray iris]

oh okay...

[vernal vale]

Details tells you how many times you use abilities. Over a set amount of time you should have set number of casts

[gray iris]

this is some high level shit lol

[mighty valley]

just Always Be Pressing

[vernal vale]

So if you did it in a minute you can do the math.

[next shadow]

anyone able to roast my log, i started playing prot this week after playing fury for most of sl. i feel like my damage is relatively low, anddd i never press shield wall or probably any of my cds enough, but not sure if thats gapping my damage that hard or if im just not pressing enough in general

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/H1nZR3FQ9rJGbaq6#fight=2&type=summary

[vernal vale]

Honestly the just presses buttons meme is super honest

[tropic linden]

Ur blocks are low

62%

[mighty valley]

This isn't bad at all for just starting this week tbh

[tropic linden]

Idk if ur taking hits on the back

[chilly brook]

?

he has 80%

[tropic linden]

Blocked hits

[chilly brook]

yes

he has 80% blocked hits

[mighty valley]

are we looking at the same log

[vernal vale]

Honestly your doing really similar to me and I've mailed prot a long time. There are better than me but you have a great start.

[tropic linden]

LoL

What is going on

[lofty widget]

wasting a fair bit of rage and not charging/intervening nearly enough is probably the 2 worst offenders

CPM is quite low as well

[lofty widget]

you hover hits, not the bar

[tropic linden]

Oh

Ok

Did wrong for an entire season

At least my blocks are higher than i thought

[vernal vale]

You and me both hahahaha

[tropic linden]

I was at 80% blocked dmg and didn't know how to improve

LoL

[vernal vale]

I just realized I'm doing a lot better than I thought.

[chilly brook]

more revenj

13cpm

vs my 16cpm

shield slam looks fine

blocked hits are fine but could be better

[mighty valley]

i think overall this log shows you know what to do, you just need more practice to do it. intervene definitely low, a bit of wasted rage, tighten those up and you'll get more revenj to get more uptime etc etc

[vernal vale]

Pick a problem and start slapping it until it goes away and pick another.

[chilly brook]

you could have better usage of outburst on shield slam vs TC for sure @next shadow

[next shadow]

how do i find that in logs?

[chilly brook]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/H1nZR3FQ9rJGbaq6#fight=2&type=damage-done&source=9&sourcebuffs=364010

damage and filter it for outburst

32 thunderclaps with outburst

[next shadow]

gotcha thankyou

[vernal vale]

It does happen some on accident but if you put it on CD at about 6 or 7 stacks of seeing red that will improve that.

[chilly brook]

everything seems fine

[next shadow]

yeah last time i prot tanked was when clap did all the dam in bfa so im just used to spamming it

[chilly brook]

just some small tweaks to get better

[vernal vale]

You are doing better than a lot who pick it up. @next shadow

There are some terrifying logs that show up here. My first few in this current raid as I was getting used to tanking again.

[vernal vale]

Since I have no more raid logs as I left my guild all I have to check my improvement is dungeon logs.

Glad you showed me the details thing for banner because I was getting mad at how my logs where looking for banner uptime. @chilly brook

[sick sentinel]

more bad trinkets

[tropic linden]

More like bad covenant

[vernal vale]

Only kind of trinkets there are.

[tropic linden]

Why venthyr?

It's a DPS loss

[vernal vale]

Playing fury so it's not the worst in the world bit can be better

[tropic linden]

It's literally the worst

[sick sentinel]

i have/want to get 80 rekown on all the covenants

may as well

[vernal vale]

It's less of a sin then playing venthyr as prot

[sick sentinel]

76 venthyr, and like, i think 71 NF

its zero rage simulator

[mighty valley]

venthyr is the worst, but also the coolest. so why not get 80 renown

[vernal vale]

When I've been doing dungeon keys that have required me to dps I've just been staying necro.

Sure I could burst harder as kyrian but I'm lazy as fuck. Why swap.

[mighty valley]

I started Venthyr, then Kyrian when swapping opened up, then Necro in anticipation of this patch

fuck night fae who care

[sick sentinel]

id like to get the flying mounts and other crap from all the covenants if i could but meh

some of it not al

[tropic linden]

Oh, ur fur

Fury

Srry

[vernal vale]

Ancient aftershock slaps I played it as fury all last tier. Beat our other fury on most fights.

[tropic linden]

Just assumed u were prot

[mighty valley]

wrong color blue though

[vernal vale]

Nah, im prot yogi is fury in that ss

[tropic linden]

IMO venthyr armor is the best

followed by necrolord

[vernal vale]

Venthyr has great cosmetics

[tropic linden]

then kyrian and last one night fae

[mighty valley]

anyway if you're not pushing top keys or currently mythic raiding you can really do whatever you want for fun and there's no point sneering at someone for it

[sick sentinel]

i like all the aesthetics outside of NF but i can 100% totally agree that style is for some

[tropic linden]

It looks so weird that NF armor

[vernal vale]

NF has bad armor.

[sturdy sable]

Man being told prot warrior has the highest erhps in the prot pal discord

I didnt even have the patience to begin to correct them

[vernal vale]

Lol

[lofty widget]

lmao

[sturdy sable]

Like thats warriors whole schtick

[vernal vale]

Paladin is "meta" it has to be better.

[sturdy sable]

HAS to be

[vernal vale]

That was my previous guilds argument

[lofty widget]

but we have no self healing

[sturdy sable]

I mean im gearing one for a fun side project hence why i was in that disc at all

[tropic linden]

Cloth looks good

[sturdy sable]

But im definitely feeling the lower mitigation compared to my warrior

[vernal vale]

True

[tropic linden]

BEcAusE PRoT waRr BaD

[toxic pewter]

wat the hell is erhps

[strong forum]

external healing required per second

aka what your healer healed you

[sturdy sable]

How much attention you need basically

[cloud stag]

Guys, i need some help. Im good on lover keys, below 20 but bad on higher keys. I need some advice, about routes, where to get a good route.. and more. Ty all

[chilly brook]

Yea logs are fairly misleading for that since it includes non combat time in keys

[wraith hemlock]

I think the main thing to consider on keys from 20 above is "what is my group capable of that I can take advantage on this dungeon"

which is why having a preset group of friends/acquaintances helps a lot

[chilly brook]

You want to know the secret to higher keys?

[wraith hemlock]

IP?

[chilly brook]

Don’t let off the gas

[cloud stag]

I want :)

[wraith hemlock]

yep

[chilly brook]

Chain pull

[wraith hemlock]

keep that banner 24/7 boy

[chilly brook]

Find out which packs you can double or triple

[wraith hemlock]

100% uptime in the dungeon

[chilly brook]

And don’t die

Congrats

You’re timing keys above 20

[wraith hemlock]

yeah chain pulling helps too

well where I was headed was that. Depending on your comp you know what you can or can't chain pull

Cuz as soon as taht banner goes down its dead key mate (<- that's a jk btw)

[chilly brook]

I honestly don’t tailor to comp

[cloud stag]

NW. i did a big pull with bl at start, right where is spear pack, then i charge boss

[chilly brook]

I just hold w

And do big pulls when I think I can

[cloud stag]

And huntard with 3600rio leave

Why

[sturdy sable]

Maybe no golem?

[cloud stag]

Yes i did

Im kyr

[wraith hemlock]

oh noes, he is kyr

[sturdy sable]

And he got pissed? I dunno puga be pugs

[cloud stag]

And i think i fuck the route

[wraith hemlock]

maybe an emergency came up?

[cloud stag]

No just leave

[wraith hemlock]

yeah that's what I mean

[chilly brook]

95% of the time it dps leave it’s usually because the rest of the group has low damage tbh

[wraith hemlock]

emergency came up, had to alt f4 leave quit

[chilly brook]

In my experience

[wraith hemlock]

I don't pug that much so I don't have experience in that sense

[chilly brook]

And they just don’t think it’s worth their time

[wraith hemlock]

I'm stuck tanking for my guild atm

[cloud stag]

I pug

Dont have group

And best healer for prot war is?

When i pug, wichone to look for

[chilly brook]

Any of them?

[cloud stag]

Haha

[tropic linden]

The one that does more dmg

[chilly brook]

I mean in a realistic sense

[tropic linden]

Cause u don't need heal, ur a beast

[chilly brook]

I’m gonna say something

And you’re not going to like it

You take a shaman

Not because of the healing

But because they bring an interrupt

[ocean yoke]

shaman utility is pretty gamer

[tropic linden]

Actually u would like different healers for different dungeons cause the dispel restrictions

But shaman has hero and interupt, and that is king

[chilly brook]

I mean hybrids exist

So you don’t need specific heals for specific debuffs

[tropic linden]

U don't need anything

Ppl were bringing hpriest for every keys in MDI

not because of dispel

Because they bring tons of dmg

And that's all that matter

Dmg

[chilly brook]

Not really true

If you don’t bring a decurse to HoA you’re trolling

Poison/disease cleanse is huge in PF

[sick sentinel]

what is the CD for each of the classes that can do this?

hunter, druid, rogue, i know for 300% can do it

i'd like to guess that monk, mage, blood elf maybe could do those, but unsure

[timber slate]

paladin

[urban portal]

hunters and rogues cannot decurse

nor diseases

hunter rogue druids soothe

belf is purge

[next shadow]

]

[sick sentinel]

which thing does a curse in hoa

its about to be on mdi anyway

[timber slate]

the red circle

a dps mecanic

[sick sentinel]

still no idea

[timber slate]

kek

[next shadow]

youve never seen it?

[blazing condor]

I think the collector does it

Obliterator just spams wicked bolts iirc

[sick sentinel]

theres alot of red circles in video games....

[next shadow]

obliterator does it

its called curse of obliteration

[timber slate]

its similar to castigate, a big red circle around you

[sturdy sable]

Its literally called curse of obliteration

[sick sentinel]

pizza mechanics, a slice, like a cone and peperoni, some times olives, usually cheese, tons of cheese, and tomatoe paste

[dawn canyon]

wtb ui roast made this today after using a premade for a bit

[next shadow]

i mean its not bad if it works for u

[dawn canyon]

rightmost is trinket

[next shadow]

ui is literally just for yourself theres ppl pushing 27s with atrocious ui's that work for them

[sick sentinel]

World of warcraft: It's very simple.

[dawn canyon]

ok i think i prefer mine over urs

[sick sentinel]

"what do you mean you couldn't see the lightning circle???"

[dawn canyon]

i think ur tooltip

gotta go

[next shadow]

i see why you have 0 idea what curse of obliteration is now

[dawn canyon]

ur playing fury and have slam keybound

and shieldslam

[chilly brook]

in fairness the people in high content that have atrocious ui's have a reason for it

[sick sentinel]

my action bar got lonely

[dawn canyon]

aui is good cuz no thought abt ui ever again

[sick sentinel]

theres like 2 buttons for fury

rampage and rampage

[chilly brook]

aka they either have to have information displayed for themselves or someone else to call out and raid lead or lead the key

[ruby locust]

My cap weakarua

[sick sentinel]

i wanna see that shit in a raid

[dawn canyon]

ah so the luxthos one

[next shadow]

yeah but i just mean how it looks literally doesnt matter if it works for the person

not that theyre bad at making uis

[sick sentinel]

see what it looks like when you got 20 guys on screen an bunch of adds + boss + spells

[ruby locust]

I customized it instead of it just saying cap 🙂 I wanted to do some self insulting

I’m not good at weakaruas what’s a little self hate ya know

[dawn canyon]

u gotta put urself out there to improve with it

but if you have questions the weakaura discord helps

[mighty valley]

why on earth do you have friendly health bars + enormous raid frames

[patent osprey]

When did they fix merciless bonegrinder to work with Ravager @_@

[chrome falcon]

i think it always has

yogi's ui is absolute insanity its best not to think about it

[patent osprey]

I swear Meciless bonegrinder wasn't working with ravager for the longest time

[chrome falcon]

well definitely this whole patch because i came in and said "woah bonegrinder works with ravager!" and everyone was like "yeah no shit"

[sick sentinel]

how is it wrong? i got rid of the weak auras, also reduced chat size and merged the 2, it just didn't save

i have the IP and SB bar but thats like really litterally it and a potion bar if im low hp, necrotic one

[jagged pier]

always, but the playstyle is disgusting and works against the tier set

it was even more horrible and annoying last season

[urban portal]

Deswind tried it in 9.1.5

So it worked then

[jagged pier]

worked is a strong term

it gives u the increase

doesnt mean its good

[urban portal]

yeah but plka was asking whether it functioned

and it did

[torpid junco]

okay, i have the loggerhead addon and have downloaded the warcraft logs app. I am enabling like it asked every time i start a run. when i try and upload a log it take me to files on my computer.... where are they stored? struggling to upload logs

[chilly brook]

#protection message

@torpid junco

[dawn canyon]

there should be a log folder in ur wow folder

[torpid junco]

ive read jakeys thing... doesnt answer my question

[chilly brook]

it literally does

All these options will store your logs in your wow file inside the retail folder and the log file.

[torpid junco]

yea but how do you get there

[chilly brook]

you go to your wow folder?

inside the battlenet folder most likely

just like you access any other program folder on your computer

[torpid junco]

how do you get to the wow folder

[chilly brook]

in the file explorer....

[torpid junco]

this sound right:
-This Pc
-Local disc (C:)
-Program files (x86)
-Wow folder
-Retail

[chilly brook]

When you've closed the logging process or exited WoW, go to upload the log using the Warcraft Logs Uploader. Use the Browse feature to locate the text file. This can be found in: Program Files -> World of Warcraft - > Logs.

[chilly brook]

yes

[chrome falcon]

Having friendly nameplates is the worst thing imo totally useless info and huge screen clutter

[torpid junco]

when i click on logs my options are Blizzard browser and raider io logs archive which are both blank

[dawn canyon]

i swear yogi ui is only to fuck with people he screenshots/records and then turns it off

cuz theres no way someone actually plays like that

[chilly brook]

did you type /combatlog in game before doing whatever you were trying to log?

[torpid junco]

i get a prompt everytime i run a dung from loggerhead asking if i want to enable logging the dung

and i cllick enable but ive never typed /combatlog

[chilly brook]

it probably does it for you

never used loggerhead

just/combatlog then after whatever I'm doing tab out to the client and upload a log from it

it really should be that simple

the logs will be stored under retail in the log folder

just choose that folder from the browse option in the uploader

[torpid junco]

man i feel like a boomer

[chilly brook]

unfortunately I can't give much more of a detailed instruction or show you what I do since I'm not at my PC

[vernal vale]

In the retail folder there is a folder called logs. The file will be a text file named combatlog...

I'm not at my computer or I would share some Screencast for you. Loggerhead is great because it's automatic.

[sick sentinel]

so, i caught my self doing at least 2 empowered TC's, but i know you have to do it on SS

[dawn canyon]

realize mistake go again

[sick sentinel]

if you cant because SS is off cd are you just supposed to try to hit revenge to proc SS?

[dawn canyon]

[dawn canyon]

yes

even straight up wait

rather than OB ur tc

[sick sentinel]

it's a reflexive moment rather than logical and thought out

pushin buttons

[next shadow]

gotta break the habit

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H4l9RpkwM

[timber slate]

Dont make me feel old with that song😑

[candid mantle]

Hi, I'm trying to understand prot's playstyle, are you trying to maintain 100% uptime on ignore pain?

[chrome falcon]

No

Ignore pain goes away when you get meleed once my your grandma

Ignore pain is there to dump rage

[rough spear]

best m+ trinkets for prot?

[torpid junco]

Probably blood scale and old warrior souls or codex

[timber slate]

Sac is also good from what ive heard

[candid path]

Any combo of these three is ideal:

If you're Necro and you chain-pull like a gorilla, Old Warrior is nice

but for dungeons where you literally can't do that, like caster wing of ToP, or Spires, it's turbo-ass

[torpid junco]

If you are running keys where you aren’t worried about dying than overpowering crystal with so Leah trinket can help you a lot on damage

[candid path]

Soleah's is arguably better than OWS because of that limitation

yeah, very true

And if you are playing Necro Prot, it is pretty hard to die on most weeks

Necrotic-Fort, it's pretty easy to die on any tank

[sick sentinel]

scale, afe, the dps phial trinket from PF, the sack from TV, meat hook is okay was my opinion, generally speaking something offensive more than defensive

scale is great because it does a big absorb and a bunch of aoe damage, i'd pick it over just about anything

some pepega mode activated boss positioning here (we live cuz its a 10)

[scenic mural]

is that your rage bar on the left?

and meat hook as a trinket in m+ is troll

[sick sentinel]

hard to recall whats good or bad for m+ besides mythic OWS

[sick sentinel]

no, on the left is IP and SB timers, so i don't let them run out, about the only WA's for abilities i have, bunch of others for various stuff, necrotic, reflect

[scenic mural]

why not center them so you dont have to lookm down in corner?

[sick sentinel]

i've never really thought about it too much, but i think i've always stared at buttons/hpbar/debuffs only when i get panicked

[wet pine]

Is it possible to use jailer gavel on use, get buff, then switch back to sword and shield?

[sick sentinel]

I'm pretty sure 8f you get into combat your equiped gear gets locked and you can't change anything, unless it's just weapon slots

[timber slate]

Like Jotungeirr?

[sick sentinel]

I have no clue if you can cast sequence an item being equipped or not

[timber slate]

Macro

[sick sentinel]

I was going to attempt to type the macro but it would be nonsense that doesn't do anything and already say enough dumb things, was gunna ay here but in general even

[timber nest]

how good is

[lean slate]

Prot war feels so weird compared to blood dk

[timber slate]

Feels weird to press more than 1 button?

[lean slate]

And mitigate the damage instead of just healing it all back

Shields look sick as hell though

[urban portal]

Does 0 damage and heals for decent amount

[teal swift]

Weird to actually mitigate damage?

[teal swift]

You can always change weapons in combat.

Have been able to since vanilla.

They did make a change this xpac, to allow weapon swapping in mythic plus.

Because of shield skills in the unpruning.

[urban portal]

Yeah you can swap with exceptions

[ruby locust]

got a bell instead of the cloak 3 weeks in a row now 🙂

[teal swift]

What are the exceptions?

Can't have an on use on CD or something?

[urban portal]

gavel and stuff

jotungeir

the op shit

[cloud onyx]

So my prot warrior has always been orc. Created him back in bc. I'm thinking of race changing him. Which horde race is good for tanks?

[median tulip]

Orc

[cloud onyx]

I was throwing around the idea of Tauren or highmountain Tauren

[median tulip]

TBH there's practically nothing in it. Vulpera Nose for Trouble is nice, BElf AoE dispel has its uses, Tauren Stompy thing, Troll Haste... just play for the transmog is my advice (which means Orc, IMO)

I'm Mag'har, FTR

[blazing condor]

the tier list goes: what you like to look at > vulpera > rest

[cloud onyx]

Lol yea, for xmog I'm gonna farm mythic drazalor dinosaur set and mythic antorus set. Using both with different color variations of legionbreaker mage tower legion weapons

[blazing condor]

its such a miniscule difference between the races it has pretty much 0 impact

[cloud onyx]

Yea, good point. So basically xmog over anything

[median tulip]

Yeah

TBH the most impactful Racial I have is the 10% mounted speed

[cloud onyx]

Thats fair. I'll prob stay with orc. Already changing shaman to zandalari troll

[candid path]

those are both good options

HMT is the best tank race from a numerical standpoint, for horde

it's a pretty slim difference even between best and worst, so I would say even in the high-end you can just go with aesthetics and be fine

only real bonus that has an outsized impact is Arcane Torrent, in my experience

but I couldn't imagine playing Warrior/DK/Druid without Bull Rush

[jagged pier]

really if u care about race u go vulpera for a tank char tbh

[dawn canyon]

Hmt raid vulpera m+ or what

[jagged pier]

i mean raid doesnt really matter at all tbh

but vulp is best for m+ for sure nose and bag are insane

[median tulip]

The best Vulpera racial is the 4 extra bag slots though

[lime urchin]

Panda! Panda!

We bouncy

We eat

\o/

[blazing condor]

Panda gang

Double food buff and jumping off of roofs

[dark lark]

Finally did a key this week and man kiting off Necrotic stacks sure kills Banner uptime for me

[sick sentinel]

Didn't catch why exactly, but had a few deaths for the key, mostly dh would seems to go poof, I believe e it was spitefuls

[brazen yarrow]

u play warrior the fall dmg racial is what i like to call shit

[blazing condor]

With mikanikos it was more value if you wanted the DR but yes obviously its a meme

[brazen yarrow]

kyrian

[blazing condor]

was

[brazen yarrow]

if ur not necro

wyd

[sick sentinel]

I'd like to vote for either cow stomp dwarves active racial, or zandalar troll Racial

Bubble heal to 100% as paladin and then loh your self and bop later on, seems really good for them

[cloud onyx]

What makes vulpera so good for tanks? I just read their passives, nothing stood out

[jagged pier]

nose for trouble is a 10% dr

[cloud onyx]

Ah

[strange lintel]

as far as defencive trinkets go. is pocket protoform worth using if you got nothing better ?

[quaint glade]

Nightborne :>

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/kazzak/Lunaera
look how pretty

[quaint glade]

Oh if you farm BoD set, you should defo go Nightborne then

[gray iris]

hey guys I got unity legendary when I completed the final chapter... But the problem is it is 262ilvl only...Now I purchased the 291 set but it says i need to purchase the legendary.. It will take months to get revered with enlightened..Anyone has a solution to this?

[strong forum]

reach revered

thats literally the only way to not have unity be 265 on waist

[odd tree]

Shouldn't take months. Been a while since I've done ZM, but it was somewhere around 3weeks with full farm every day.

Raid bosses give rep, I believe jailer kill quest gives over 1k and can be done in LFR. There are also chapters after the unity leggo that give rep.

[gray iris]

damn this time based content of wow is annoying just for the sake of engagement

[odd tree]

Yup

At least it's all unlocked, waiting for creation catalyst was the worst

[chrome falcon]

It certainly will not take months for revered with enlightened, you can do it in 2 weeks if you really tryhard it, 3 if you just do the obvious stuff

[strange lintel]

all you had to do was do daily world quests / world boss weekly / weekly bar for 2-3 weeks the first time around for revered. not even counting all the rep you would get from the raid itself

it was like half an hour tops daily + raid tme

[sick sentinel]

i can still get revered but its taking a bit of time

[spark mortar]

Has anyone whipped up a macro for the Sepulcher shield by any chance?

[timber slate]

Its not worth using the effect

Equip and forget it

[spark mortar]

Dang, lol. That's unfortunate. It looked like a nice idea.

[timber slate]

[sick sentinel]

seems like it suits a hpal or shaman best TBH

[cloud onyx]

Yea, prob nor for warr though. Was gonna make my mage nightbourne

[sick sentinel]

then im 5/5 non LFR

[gray iris]

I see... I will start doing the world quests.

[sick sentinel]

wait its the legs mb, can't even trade it to the DK, ilvl upgrade

[quaint glade]

Nightborne war is rare go for it, mogs are beautiful too

[inner forge]

Hi. I've been leveling a protection warrior after tanking as paladin and druid. Both of these classes have a "filler" ability. Swipe and hammer of righteous. A aoe melee to use inbetween cooldowns.
Warrior is taking some getting used to. Not having that ability since you take the devestator passive at level 15.
Is this something you get used to. Or is the something I should be filling that gap with.

[sturdy sable]

Naw you just have downtime at lower levels

[urban portal]

You can choose to not take devastator early

[sturdy sable]

You should be spending rage on revenge

Yeah but who wants to run punish

[inner forge]

So when I get to mythic levels, I'll be using ignore pain and low levels just use revenge as the filler?

[chrome falcon]

yeah levelling warrior is not remotely similar to playing warrior

[sturdy sable]

Ignore pain exists to dump excess rage

[chrome falcon]

we're extremely hard carried by borrowed power

[sturdy sable]

But you really only do that at max level

With the afore mentioned borrowed power

[strong forum]

We don't have any "filler" abilities

Later on you won't have enough time to even press your normal rotational abilities

Cuz you'll generate so much dumbfuck rage that you can't spend it fast enough

[inner forge]

What borrowed power do we have this expansion?
Sorry I've returned after a 2 year gap.
At low levels revenge procs arnt exactly common. I presume when doing mythic content. Ignore pain is used for dumping rage. And revenge only on procs which will be more common?

[strong forum]

And have to resort to spaing IP purely to avoid rage capping

[strong forum]

Revenge procs are capped at 3ppm

Through tierset, legendary and covenant you'll be literally bombarded with rage

So you'll have like 30cpm on revenge and IP, alone combined

(casts per minute)

[median tulip]

and you get extra Revenge procs from Reprisal

[strong forum]

Ngl

I hate getting free revenge procs now

[sturdy sable]

Yep

Id rather just spend the rage

[strong forum]

Actually shit to have free revenges

[median tulip]

I just IP more

[strong forum]

Well ofc

But it's still shit to not spend the rage

[sturdy sable]

Cancel aura the proc

[strong forum]

Fucks with banner uptime

[sturdy sable]

Put that in your revenge button

Stonks

[strong forum]

Nah that's too much of a dps loss with BSC

Getting those 9k revenge crits is kinda joocy

[sturdy sable]

But it would feel better

[inner forge]

Just need something to bind to me "e" keybind. Which I used for swipe, hammer of righteous. And bloodlust as fury.
I didn't realise Ignore pain was spammed so much. Doesn't seem like it helps much (hence the spam I suppose)

[sturdy sable]

It doesnt help

Its used to dump rage off the gcd

[strong forum]

It does help if you spam it

[sturdy sable]

And to pad out magic damage hits

No indomitable helps if you spam it

[strong forum]

We can shittalk IP as much as we want, but the fact remains that alot of tankiness comes from the bazillion of IPs we get

[chilly brook]

I have thunderclap as e

[strong forum]

Indom is what keeps us alive

But IP is a great benefactor to not dying as fast

[chilly brook]

But ye IP does quite a bit this patch

[gray iris]

hey guys, how do i make weakaura for necrotic stacks? And what to do when they get high?

[strong forum]

I don't have a WA

I just randomly notice my health actually going down and I see on the default elvui debuff position that I'm at 45 stacks

So I just shockwave and run

Or heroic leap and run

[gray iris]

so for how long do you run?

[chilly brook]

Say what you will

[strong forum]

About 3-4 seconds

[chilly brook]

But that’s almost a million damage not taken because of IP

[inner forge]

@chilly brook I have thunderclap as Q at the mo. What's your Q keybind?

[gray iris]

then those stacks reset?

[chilly brook]

Q is always stun for every class

[strong forum]

Yes

They only last for like 4 seconds

[gray iris]

ok thanks

[strong forum]

👃

[chilly brook]

I’ve just made kinda a universal setup for all my keybinds

[inner forge]

Thanks for all the help. Will keep practicing. And hopefully get used to it. Enjoying paladin tank. But warrior looks awesome and feels great to play so far

[chilly brook]

I.e. taunt is always the first button on my mouse, interrupt the second, slows on third, 4th is a utility slot etc.

[inner forge]

I try keep them similar Aswell on every char. Q is thunderclap. Similar to consecration as pld. Hammer of righteous doesn't have anything comparable.
Depending on covenant of choice. Might be an option there

[chrome falcon]

hammer of righteous is much more similar to tc than consecration is

dogshit abilities that do 2 damage that you hate pressing

[strong forum]

But you gotta cuz it generates resources

[inner forge]

Might try TC on "e" then. Find a new Q keybind. (whirlwind as fury but obviously not used as prot).

[strong forum]

My e is for trinket on prot

(I rarely play on use trinkets)

So it's mostly a dead keybind

[dawn canyon]

My tc is e

My sb is C which might be a bit sussy

[strong forum]

C is shockwave

[dawn canyon]

Shift 3

Which is okay since my ss is 3

[strong forum]

Shift 3 is

[dawn canyon]

Is r

[strong forum]

Das kick

Gotta be quick on that

[dense pewter]

kick is hotkeyed to thumb on mouse

[dawn canyon]

Im contemplating swapping Shieldblock to Shift F and putting LS on c

[dense pewter]

speeeeed that way

[strong forum]

LS is shift mouse 5

[dawn canyon]

Kick stays F

[strong forum]

Press F to Ignore Pain.

https://tenor.com/view/press-f-pay-respect-coffin-burial-gif-12855021

[dawn canyon]

4 for me

So 2 is rev 3 is ss 4 is ip

[dense pewter]

Are we particularly good necrotic tanks?

[dawn canyon]

Is there a good necrotic tank?

[strong forum]

Depends on who you ask

But we technically are the best

Bdk is crazy cuz of 70% parry chance cuz drw + Str stacking

Pally is crazy cuz of bop/bubble

Pwar is crazy cuz we don't take dmg cuz of block + CDs so we don't rly on healing for prolonged periods of time

[dawn canyon]

Bear

[strong forum]

Bear is good in ultra pulls cuz of UFR, but bears don't play UFR anymore

[dawn canyon]

Oh they dont??

[strong forum]

Nop

[chrome falcon]

basically every tank has their own way to be very good at necrotic

[dawn canyon]

The dot thing now or whah

[chrome falcon]

because it's ez

[strong forum]

They play sleeper

[chrome falcon]

appropriate for bear

[dawn canyon]

Funny

[strong forum]

Wait nvm apparently they still play UFR

[dawn canyon]

Sleeper was pvp iirc

[strong forum]

Wow who could've predicted this timeline

🧢

[dawn canyon]

A!?

No shot

We C like dorknos said

. /s

[strong forum]

If you ask reddit and Twitch Chat pwar is F

[dawn canyon]

F stands for fuck em

[strong forum]

And depending on who you ask again, some might say pwar is potentially better than bdk

[dawn canyon]

Who would answer that

[dense pewter]

I'm having fun with it. Still learning and obvs doing low keys in the process

[dawn canyon]

Fun wise pwar is an s tier tank

[dense pewter]

But it's fun to pump with spear or being a banner boi

[dawn canyon]

For sure

[dense pewter]

All it needs to be S+ tier is unstoppable force to do more bonus damage to tclap 🙂

ravager is boring. I wanna stop the earth

[strong forum]

Uuhm

Go play UF and try to do your rotation during avatar

[urban portal]

unstoppable force is barely any rage game

gain

[strong forum]

Just try doing your rotation

See where that leaves you

[ocean yoke]

ravager is cool af though

[strong forum]

Ya

I'm happy with playing ravager

Buff ravagers dmg and I'm very happy

[inner forge]

Do yous always place ravager? Or for quickness have a macro to place at your feet?

[strong forum]

@cursor

[dawn canyon]

Erga has @ Player iirc so either works

[strong forum]

@sweet summit shit macro haver

[inner forge]

So having it place at my feet would work? Or am I best doing at cursor macro

[strong forum]

Apparently it works to have it at the feet, but I like to use it on range to pull a pack im planning on charging in to

[median tulip]

I can do either. For most purposes the @heavy mirage option is fine

[mighty egret]

I use to be an ITF lover in keys until necro+ravager equals sauce

[dawn canyon]

Rava>itf even for low keys

[mighty egret]

i was using it for higher keys for lower SB CD

but thats in the past

[strong forum]

Ah right to answer the question, you play ITF in raid

Ravager in keys

[sick sentinel]

ravager for sure as necro prot for keys because it gains you rage

[sweet summit]

@cursor gang

[sweet summit]

i do not

[dawn canyon]

then i have been told the wrong thing

🤷

[sweet summit]

had @cursor since bfa :/

[dense pewter]

Who is the prio target on Spires on the pull before Ventunax?

[lofty widget]

squad leader

[dense pewter]

Seems like a no brainer, pugs didn't want to do it.

Full sending -75% aoe damage

[jagged pier]

nah thats wrong 100% C:

[torpid junco]

Think we will get any more buffs this season ?

[jagged pier]

we dont need them

so no

[torpid junco]

Though we aren’t “bad” haven’t we been the worst of the 6 all of shadowlands ?

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[torpid junco]

What tank are we better than ?

[strong forum]

bear

[jagged pier]

bear

vdh

[strong forum]

well in raid we're better than pally bear vdh 100%

in m+ defo better than bear

rest hard to tell

[jagged pier]

we are literally upper middle of the pack, which is where we've actually been for the whole expansion just the ppl that make the tier lists dont know how to play it so they rate it low

well we are on par with monk in m+ i would say

which means we are pretty high up there

[strong forum]

probably ye

just need somebody big to unzip and show the world

[jagged pier]

andy

🙏

[strong forum]

dont spoil it

[jagged pier]

i mean hes been streaming it

[strong forum]

he deleted the vod

[jagged pier]

would rather he didnt tho keep us under the radar

nani?????

probs because of the charge KEKW

[strong forum]

dunno but the vod is gone

[jagged pier]

get me team

i push

[strong forum]

cant just get any team

thats the whole issue

which is how this came to be

in S1