protection

[strong forum]

Also it's initial threat

So a heal or a random dmg number won't snag away a mob instantly

[dawn canyon]

Leap the truly uncapped warrior spell

[strong forum]

Rumbling earth torghast power for m+ when?

[dawn canyon]

Dude that would be such a cool Talent

[dusky sentinel]

Oh! So thats why the spires adds (ether something) sometimes differ in cast time. Cause I charge wierdly sometimes?

[dawn canyon]

Idk a 5k dot where u leap

[cinder storm]

the thorgast power

[woeful trellis]

try to stun them, then they sync up the cast and tell ur boomie to hold his beam

[dawn canyon]

Shockwave op op

[woeful trellis]

that would be damn nice

[dusky sentinel]

Yeah. Usually do that

[chrome falcon]

wasn't there a legendary in legion that applied colossus smash when you leapt

and it was insanely bad to play with

[sick sentinel]

heroic leap leaves an earthquake effect when you do it for X seconds ontop of normal damage, yes please

[median tulip]

I would love to see Ancient Rubble, Glory of Skyhold and Blade of the Tideskorn Anima powers make it into the talent trees

[sick sentinel]

i liked the banners from cataclysm

[chilly brook]

ancient rubble is gross

no

movement being turned into damage is not good design imo

[dawn canyon]

I like the one where shit takes 30% more under a shouts effect

[sick sentinel]

one banner was sorta like how our old bfa ravager worked, or spear of bastion (stationary), but taunted instead and i think had HP maybe

there was like, 2 other banners, but that was by far the most useful

not needed with todays kit

[median tulip]

you don't have to spec it if you don't like it xD

[chilly brook]

you do if you want to be optimal and it's the best option

[median tulip]

Gibbering Skull is another Anima Power I would love to have carry over

[sick sentinel]

movespeed is also DR as well, because you can run out of void zones faster or away from another player faster while you have damaging shadow circle around you, causing them to take less damage and needing less healing

you can stand in longer doing dps before being required to move, shortening the window of how long you have to run i mean

[median tulip]

Oh and Shrieking Flagon. I'd fucking kill for Shrieking Flagon

[sick sentinel]

i hope that menacer talent finds its place, seems like it has strong niche uses. would be strong if it includes the effect of the conduit that causes it not to break as easily

[median tulip]

In fact I'd generally kill for some mob displacement abilities, regardless. PLEASE can we have Dragon Charge made available in PvE in the Dragon-themed expansion?

[sick sentinel]

i just think charge spell should be more closer to dragon charge

you charge directly at the guy, and your slightly knocking people out the way to get there

[median tulip]

I'm a fucking walking wrecking ball; I just want the ability to bulldoze mobs out of Sanguine pools already

[sick sentinel]

i just wish we had a stab caster button

only works on casters, does a shit load of damage

[chrome falcon]

it's called spell reflect...

[craggy pilot]

if i upgrade pants to tier 262, can i then still upgrade it with valor?

[chrome falcon]

yes

[craggy pilot]

is it worth to upgrade anything <278 to tier? 🤔

currently have 262 legs, and 265 is my lowest tier piece on hand

[dawn canyon]

I mean it depends on urgency

You will get all 278 eventually

[craggy pilot]

i guess i could up my tier to 272 with valor 🤔

[dawn canyon]

However if u burn it all now you might have to sit on 278s for a week

Im personally holding a charge

[craggy pilot]

i have already 3x 278 tier

only stuff i can use valor for is Hands+Belt+Legs anyway 🤔

[gray iris]

guys i tried my best but still could only get ss cpm to 9.8....Is it because of my low haste 21% only?

[craggy pilot]

unless its a different trinket combo

[dawn canyon]

Yeah that's very low haste

Idk if it makes up for 4 cpm

But thats a good start

[gray iris]

and im having a banner uptime of only 27%

[sacred timber]

Why am I so bad with rage management

[past grove]

9.8cpm is really low considering the base cooldown is 6seconds, sounds like you're either sitting on it too long or not getting procs at all

[gray iris]

i think im sitting on it too long

[sacred timber]

but how much are you pressing revenge?

[gray iris]

i got 11.2 cpm of revenge

[sacred timber]

Revenge go brrr

[past grove]

Nvm, talking out of my ass, base cooldown is 9 seconds 🙂

[gray iris]

nice lol...the best i could do was 13cpm of revenge

[chrome falcon]

25% uptime of a 2 minute CD is 30 seconds which means you're spending an extremely low amount of rage

generate more and press more ignore pains

[vernal vale]

So, anyone try and pug heroic jailer yet? I was tempted to try last night but pugs are always so bad. I just want my AOTC

[gray iris]

i think im not managing my rage generation effectively

[chrome falcon]

sounds lik e it

[vernal vale]

On another note the jailers gauntlet floor 8 pisses me off. Really bad boss combinations with stuns/fears destroys your runs.

[gray iris]

also i lose banner uptime when one pull is over and im going to the second pull

[rapid flower]

Anyone got tips for death speaker packs in dos for pugs? I find a lot of groups missing shadowcore kicks and getting chunked for 40-50k in 20s. Spell reflect always seems to eat a scribe cast even when I try to time it out

[vernal vale]

Hit shield wall etc all because dps won't kick.

[mental scarab]

Get get aggro then fuck of

[cinder storm]

Jump with spell reflect and shield wall, kick second shadowcore, aoe stun and pray your dps kick rest when you need to jump

[gray iris]

that pull haunts me lol. If i survive that pull, i get a dopamine rush

[rapid flower]

Yeah I'm using my defensives and trying to outrange, but all it seems to take is one cast of it to ruin the pull, taking 40% of my hp when shield wall runs out.

[cinder storm]

ah, there's your issue, don't overstay

the raptors apply the poison too and there's the scribes casting

[rapid flower]

Thanks all, I'll start just dumping some rage for threat and running away as long as I can if it happens again haha

[dawn canyon]

Aoe taunt before running out

[cinder storm]

if you run with a holy, just tell your healer to give you wings before your shield wall runs out, if you want to stay, if not, just leap and walk a bit down the stairs, no shame

[wraith hemlock]

I usually charge at it and get the first interrupt

[rapid flower]

But my somewhat below average dps Sadge

[wraith hemlock]

and spell reflect the next

if i'm lucky my spell reflect wont fade off to another cast lmao

[cinder storm]

I always link that spell from MDT and I make sure to tell the dps before the key starts, that that's the only ability I fear in that dungeon and its their job to kick it

[wraith hemlock]

don't forget to use ur shield wall btw

[rapid flower]

Yeah I normally pop wall once I see 2nd cast

I kick first 95% of the time

[cinder storm]

if you charge spell reflect first, and interrupt second, you will have spell reflect when you are kiting sooner and someone forgets to kick it

[rapid flower]

Remember this is pugs I'm asking about. Half the time I spell reflect even after mentioning I'm going to, someone ends up kicking anyways haha

Maybe charge into Shockwave to guarantee the shadowcore reflect and not eat scribe instead

[wraith hemlock]

if I spell reflect there is a 99.9% chance it will go away with another cast

or dps will suddenly decide to actually use their interrupt

like

"oh tank is spell reflecting, that mean that shit must hit hard so i'll interrupt"

bam, wasted SR

[rapid flower]

Yep prot war life

[wraith hemlock]

then no one interrupts the next 7 shadowcores

[cinder storm]

so, the pack in front of ardenweald is the only one I'd kick first since you want to move the whole pack fast to the urn

the one in front of hakkar I'd kick second, spell reflect first

[wraith hemlock]

i'll take anote on that thou for my guild group

[cinder storm]

thing is, having spell reflect as soon as possible when kiting since its dangerous to charge on a bad time

[wraith hemlock]

the rogue might not tricks me on cd but he kicks spells at least

[cinder storm]

I sometimes play in comms, and I call my spell reflect and someone still kicks

wcyd

oh, its even funnier on the gnome bosses where there's literally just one cast at a time

[rapid flower]

Cry and release

It's to the point in fort dos where I save challenging shout for when I'm running back to the pack after dying lol

[wraith hemlock]

I hate this

like

this hits my soul in a personal level

[fickle arrow]

So which soulbind “character”? Not sure what they are called. Do you pick for Necrolord?

[cinder storm]

Marileth

[rapid flower]

Plague binder

[wraith hemlock]

oh right I was about to ask

why do I never see Emeni picked

what makes marileth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Emeni/heimir

[cinder storm]

Marileth has better interactions with m+ content than the other two, heimir felt like crap imo, Emeni was kinda fun

[sick sentinel]

damage

how, i don't know

[gray iris]

damage wise mikankos is the best of kyrian i think

[sick sentinel]

pepegalos is fine too, kliea okay with crit

[dawn canyon]

Pelapoop

[sick sentinel]

i need to do tales of exile so i can fly to do WQ to get exalted or w/e to get craft unity in any slot

i know its revered, but i say exalted, becauseuntil now it was always exalted required

[gray iris]

Do you guys choose bsc or bv with NL?

[blazing condor]

I went back to bsc

[lofty widget]

Its preference, bsc is more overall dmg, bv is more St and easier banner uptime

[vestal moat]

What do we need to survive all 3 tank circles on Lihuvim mythic?

[sturdy sable]

Mythic?

Wall is enough

[chrome falcon]

shield wall, spell reflect, and a few ignore pains

[sturdy sable]

And sr ofc

[tropic linden]

Jakey used DS

Don't know if it's mandatory

And shield block

Cause the physic part is blockable

[vestal moat]

ok ty. goal is to survive all 3 so we dont move the circle much

im tanking with a monk who also tells me he can survive all 3

[chilly brook]

marileth is easily the most well rounded while also offering the most defensive benefit

constant damage amp from kevin

huge mastery bump 24/7

also pick up other buffs from killing things

impactful damage shield if you drop low

etc.

emeni kinda poopoo

you have to full channel fleshcraft to actually get the full benefit of her, and if you're channeling that's wasted globals that you could be using to generate or spend rage and extend banner

[lyric geode]

You can move while you fleshcraft :D

[chilly brook]

doesn't matter

you can't do anything else

emeni is the lowest damage option

and the worst defensively as well iirc

she doesn't offer really anything of note

[chrome falcon]

i think i would press fleshcraft exactly as often as i do now if i could cast while moving

i guess a bit more often since you'd do it between packs

[wraith hemlock]

I didn't consider the essence part

I usually don't put much mind on that part since it happens passively

[median tulip]

Solvent is great

It's half the reason I started insisting on going left in Streets, NGL

[lyric geode]

what is the biggest buff though?

[sick sentinel]

thank god, i have reason to want to go to ZM now

[lyric geode]

ui from retail wow ewh

[sick sentinel]

map addons don't like to always display WQ proper / other issues with ui

[lyric geode]

True...

[chilly brook]

there's a flat magic DR

idk though

there's a ton of them

[lyric geode]

ah yes , the -5%

still cant remember who gives though

[sick sentinel]

but like, okay, for example now in this zone

[chilly brook]

and it's almost always active

you're never not going to get value out of it

[sick sentinel]

i can just, go and fly way up in the sky and chill tf out, not worry about shit all gunna attack me or respawns or nothin

[lyric geode]

They nerfed it from 6 min to 2 min

[sick sentinel]

and then, like when i want to go turn my new chest piece in for a set piece, i just, fly up, don't have to go through adds or use a stealth pot, look for a tornado thing to teleport up

[chilly brook]

doesn't matter

[sick sentinel]

just, get on mount and fly to the spot

[lyric geode]

It somewhat does

[chilly brook]

you automatically pick the buffs up as soon as you walk on a corpse

it literally doesn't matter

[wraith hemlock]

you can get dismounted by flying mobs btw

[median tulip]

Tank = Immune

[wraith hemlock]

nope

[lyric geode]

I mean, you can get the mechanical for 2 min. if you dont encounter another mechanical, you will lose the -5%

Tank= Dps

[sick sentinel]

cannot be dazed while mounted

[lyric geode]

but Dps!= Tank

[sick sentinel]

that is what you are thinking of

[wraith hemlock]

err no

[chilly brook]

I can't think of any situation where that would actually matter

[median tulip]

Yes

[dawn canyon]

now add weakaura middle of the screen + char frames to the side of it and ur good

[median tulip]

All of the Relics are mechanicals

[chilly brook]

and mechagon in DoS

[lyric geode]

True

[chilly brook]

is literally all mechanicals

[sick sentinel]

new ui

not new

[lyric geode]

But after mechagon?

[wraith hemlock]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=368890/banishment-blast

[dawn canyon]

focus too far

[lyric geode]

But it is true, relics are mechanical

[wraith hemlock]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=368890/banishment-blast

[chilly brook]

the only dangerous magic pack has a relic

[dawn canyon]

swap pet and tot

[chilly brook]

it literally

doesn't

matter

you're thinking about this way too much

[lyric geode]

my question, doesnt the relics despawn rather than die?

[wraith hemlock]

like I literally just got dismounted by it while I was looking for the spell in wowhead

[chilly brook]

it's a nice passive buff

[sick sentinel]

"This not only dismounted me but also disconnected me from the server. Be warned, stay away from these guys when flying." comment

[lyric geode]

If you dont overthink, you dont solve it.

[chilly brook]

bruv

[median tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/overthinking-hamster-overthinking-hamster-dont-think-about-it-gif-15552948

[dawn canyon]

ur a warrior

underthink

[wraith hemlock]

never got disconnected but definitely dismounted

[lyric geode]

The main problem with that is this

[wraith hemlock]

as a war its a non issue cuz heroi cleap

[dawn canyon]

dps matters

[lyric geode]

Dps are stupid, we are not

[wraith hemlock]

but as a dk lmao

[lyric geode]

I am trying to Squaring the circle

[timber slate]

Whats the difference between 9 and 99?🤣

[sick sentinel]

more accurate version

ah shit, i didnt add the broken armor man

[chilly brook]

you realize

you doing damage is directly tied to your survival

[dawn canyon]

if shits dead it hits less hard

[chilly brook]

not even that

[dawn canyon]

from my experience anyways

[chilly brook]

literally

[lyric geode]

!

[chilly brook]

if you like 90 parse

you're optimizing your rage generation

as well as your other buffs

which directly impacts your survivability

[strong forum]

the takeaway from this is

90% or more of all tanks, arent playing optimal because they're stuck in the "i have to play defensively" mindset

[jagged pier]

what is that mindset?

[strong forum]

when playing optimall automatically means you will deal good dmg because thats literally how the tanks of the past 3+ expansions have been built

[jagged pier]

never had it

KEKW

[waxen orbit]

You have healers you can trust big man

[wraith hemlock]

lmao my raid guildies always ramble like monkeys when I mention tanks should also be doing damage

[waxen orbit]

^

[strong forum]

and thats exactly it

[jagged pier]

im expected to do damage in my guild so is my co tank 🤷

[chilly brook]

I just realized

[waxen orbit]

It’s why I left my old raiding guild. It’s entirely about trusting your healers to do their job properly so you can do yours and be truly optimal. Thing is, you got lots of healers who don’t believe in being 100% optimal

[strong forum]

first thing i told my cotank is "im not having a turtle fucking andy be my cotank, get your shit together"

[chilly brook]

I could have beat Ze easily on Pantheon

if I used reverb like he did

[jagged pier]

nah not really

the moajority of the fight u get no benfit

[waxen orbit]

I’d say rep is still better for Panth

[jagged pier]

and the quickest part that lasts like 40 secs sure u do but its not worth it

[waxen orbit]

Lots of free rage to dump into AM and banner

Plus revenj

[chilly brook]

his reverb damage is actually gross tbh

[waxen orbit]

It depends on your DPS and how long they stretch the final phase tbh

If your DPS nuke the final phase then not worth

If they don’t then reverb gets value

Also I’m coming back to the game casually after 2 months of retirement

[chilly brook]

he also just had a ton of revenge casts in fairness

[waxen orbit]

And when I say casually I mean giga casual. Heroic Andy BS and nothing beyond a +25

[jagged pier]

i mean his mythic sigil will also go a long way

[waxen orbit]

DPS trinket setup is still Sack/Sig right?

Or has that changed since I’ve been in cryostasis

[strong forum]

sack/sigil/phial

[waxen orbit]

Word

[strong forum]

ows also still good

[chilly brook]

OWS big gud

[waxen orbit]

Mythic variant tho right? Heroic is still powerful obv but I’m assuming heroic OWS doesn’t outvalue a mythic/heroic Sigil in raid

[strong forum]

well it wont outsim sigil

ever

[waxen orbit]

Right

Finally got my sack tho

Feelsgoodman

First day back after 2 months and I get a 272 (I know, gross) from a boost run I did in my vault

[strong forum]

dw ive been "back" for a month

and ive got afe and scale

out of the very many 1 dos and 1 spires i did

[waxen orbit]

AFE feels mid compared to OWS in keys

[blazing condor]

I stopped playing

[waxen orbit]

But pretty giga

[waxen orbit]

BIS move

[strong forum]

ofc afe is mid compared to ows lol

[blazing condor]

Still got time tho

For like another month

Shit extended

[strong forum]

ows is literally 250 haste with 100% uptime

whereas afe is 360 haste with 30% uptime

[blazing condor]

360>250

[chilly brook]

personally considering it

[waxen orbit]

Honestly, taking that 2 month step back felt amazing.

There's a reason I'm only returning casually

It's healthy every now and then to put down the shield

[chilly brook]

basically

imo the game is the best when you're not forced to log in every day or do the same raid and prog it for 2-3 days a week for 6 months

[waxen orbit]

Factual

[lime urchin]

prog for 6 months?!

arent there easier ways to hurt yourself?

[waxen orbit]

Yep, that's what it's like running mythic since launch

[chilly brook]

not uncommon for a lot of mythic guilds

[urban portal]

^

[chilly brook]

if you're not world like 500 or below

[urban portal]

The ones that don’t just condense that 6 months into 2

Raid triple the time

[chilly brook]

you're likely in there for over 4 months at least

[strong forum]

if youre in a low rated guild

you never stop prog

as soon as you get CE youre most likely just before the opening of the next raid

[waxen orbit]

^

[urban portal]

Sometimes you reprog painsmith for the 10th time

[jagged pier]

endless treadmil

[strong forum]

yeup

[waxen orbit]

[lime urchin]

sureley if you are progging for more than 5-6 months

conclusions must be made

[strong forum]

in my old guild we had 1-2months of downtime at best before next tier

[lime urchin]

I admire your perseverance

[strong forum]

aslong as the atmosphere is good

[lime urchin]

true

[sturdy sable]

Yeah if your chilling and bantering its really alot of fun

[lyric geode]

I dislike raids since the end of legion to be honest. Just progressing for social

[strong forum]

i dont like raiding

[sturdy sable]

Its the negative attitudes that make it feel like a slog

[strong forum]

never did

i only did it for the loot

and then out of a sense of responsibility

[lime urchin]

same Nome

[lyric geode]

progressed ToS, got exhausted.

[waxen orbit]

That and when you have people with conflicting levels of effort put in

[lime urchin]

I just clear the raid on hc once or twice to see the content and then go back to mah m+ings

[lyric geode]

I quitted WoW

ToS mythic was really nice to be honest.

[strong forum]

now i know, if i ever raid again, it has to be of "high" worldrank and without a leading position

cuz boy ill just kill your guild if im in a leading position

im 2/2

[lyric geode]

RL is such a chore to be honest. Never asked to be, never bothered. Just backsitting.

[strange lintel]

I lead a small casual guild that barely clears Norma and heroic. And I go with another guild for my mythic fix. The casual guild has people literally burning out before we even hit heroic. I don't get casual players

[echo egret]

Gambit : is it an acceptable path to kill the 1st packs of Murlocs with WO relic, go straight to 1st boss, then at the end teleport back at the entrance and resume killing the easier packs of murlocs ?

[jagged pier]

no

[echo egret]

... no because ?

[chilly brook]

I think I might be coming to this position

aka I just don't have it in me to prog for like 5 months

like 2-3 months would be good

[strong forum]

that seems hella inefficient

pull all your pulls first, then wo-skip to boss and proceed as normal

backtracking is never worth

[lyric geode]

I dislike that the new mechanics from raidboss that it tries to be fancy and shit. But all it does is to make wa more absolute.

[strong forum]

unless its literally for 0.3% and you can skip a pride

[waxen orbit]

Rule #1 of routing in M+:
Never turn around unless you absolutely have to in your route

[lost eagle]

Ya thats fine, ive used this route a few times. I like it this week because arguably the hardest part is the trash at the start

[waxen orbit]

Backtracking is almost always a waste of time in M+

[cinder storm]

^

[echo egret]

The thing is, in that specific case, there's no backtracking

[strong forum]

youd have to do another wo-skip to proceed to 2nd boss or run back after last boss

that just screams inefficient

[cinder storm]

as a tank you need to keep your team engaged as much as possible, backtracking is inefficient, you waste time. Your team can use pots on a big pull and if you only pull one pack then backtrack to the end that's time wasted.

[lost eagle]

The thing with that route is it's a lazy option, you don't need to assess percentage before 1st boss

[echo egret]

Isn't there a guy who teleports you to the entrance after last boss ?

[cinder storm]

it's not lazy, its plain bad

[lost eagle]

theres a portal yess

I mean i timed it at +21 this week with that route haha

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[echo egret]

And the hidden goal here, is not to worry too much about murloc packs with high risk of pulling extras

(pugging exclusively)

[sturdy sable]

So like... A 16?

[cinder storm]

how much time left you had on that 21?

[sturdy sable]

Since our burrowed power really waters down keys

[lost eagle]

My char name is Sundar , US-Malfurion, you can check it out on .io

🙂

Best of luck whichever one you pick

[echo egret]

and also to not engage packs with twin totems

[waxen orbit]

You can time a +21 with a hold W route homie, with all due respect. Not trying to sound toxic but I'm just telling you it's not a good route

[lyric geode]

It isnt that bad as they say, and arguably it is more time consuming the first boss rather than the second one.

[crude notch]

Well you weren’t lying that is odd

[tropic linden]

Don't have mic

but can get in

[wraith hemlock]

some people play the game to relax and want to try the content

[tropic linden]

Oh, someone is there already

[wraith hemlock]

but not really dedicate time as if it was a job or a hobby

[crude notch]

Record yourself

[tropic linden]

If u don't mind answering, why do u HAVE to use it?

[strong forum]

windows has a built in voice recorder

or you can test yourself in discord under voice options

what a tragedy!

[crude notch]

You’re doomed now

[cinder storm]

does it also records the voice mask?

[crude notch]

Only I know your real voice

[strong forum]

if you set it up correctly, yes

[keen maple]

Is there a WA

[crude notch]

Gottem bud

[keen maple]

that can track my note and give me a visual when i need to rally

[strong forum]

cant believe Elon Musk is in skyhold

[crude notch]

My guy no

No no

[cinder storm]

Elon Musk is everwhere, havent you Heard?

[strong forum]

thats really hard to setup

[crude notch]

You think discord records every conversation

In vocal

[strong forum]

you need specific parameters for the weakaura to tell you what to do

[keen maple]

was wondering if there was already one available

[strong forum]

not as far as im aware, that seems a little too specific

https://tenor.com/view/that-was-a-joke-the-ms-pat-show-thats-a-joke-im-joking-im-kidding-gif-22683143

[crude notch]

Yo can I get some of the good stuff you’re on

[strong forum]

FF has no appeal to me cuz i dont care about ERP, RP or Story

[crude notch]

He also already is a main character from FF

[cinder storm]

FF for me is better because of all those things you mentioned Nom, but lacks m+, so here I am

[strong forum]

i wanna play games to press buttons, not watch movies

ykno

i used to like the adjacent story stuff you noticed whilst playing wow, pre-bfa

[wraith hemlock]

of course they do, and they use those recording to conquer the world

[crude notch]

Precisely

[cinder storm]

Let me introduce you to something called mocap

[crude notch]

MonkaS if they record my convos

[wraith hemlock]

they also probably are in league with EM cuz he is a genius with asperger

[strong forum]

everybody has a history of selling data

nobody is safe

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-gif-10587157

[crude notch]

You’re a funny guy

[cinder storm]

I've worked healthcare, your SSN is in a third party database overseas, I don't worry about those things anymore

[crude notch]

Okay bud

[wraith hemlock]

this

x2

[tame garden]

@sick sentinel we are always watching

[chrome falcon]

yeah this is very protection warrior related guys

keep up the good work

[cinder storm]

just like the BBB is a paid yelp for some organizations and ppl think they are some sort of company enforcement police or what not

[crude notch]

Okay Mattacate calm down only one person is maintaining this conversation

[cinder storm]

Yeah, just ignore pain irl

[crude notch]

Talk about what you want to

[strong forum]

a bit of offtopic is fine

[crude notch]

I’m not

[strong forum]

just dont go too crazy

[crude notch]

Heck Nome

[strong forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/882774654127833158.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[cinder storm]

as a tank, your job is to tank mobs and tank opinions, who often come from monkey brain dps

[wraith hemlock]

I mean you were looking for cheap treatment, were you expecting wine and caviar with the dental care?

in the country were you pay with bald eagles and money is everything

cheap is always gonna cost you more

[wraith hemlock]

this works every time

[cinder storm]

[wraith hemlock]

I mean... if they were students they can't give you a prescription for pain killer or AB's

[jagged pier]

right this is a topic for

#off-topic

[mild palm]

Are we able to block and dodge etc during Heart of the Swarm on-use?

[chrome falcon]

yes

[sweet summit]

yep

[jagged pier]

yep

[mild palm]

Oh, nice.

[sick sentinel]

NL barrier?

[jagged pier]

yep

[mild palm]

Garbo trinket I assume but I'm running it with Pocket Protoforge since I hate M+ 🤡

[jagged pier]

they are both bad trinkets

[mild palm]

Oh ya for sure. Swarm looks nice though 🤣

[sick sentinel]

hey, remember when it was a 4 second cast and flat amount for necro bubble?

[mild palm]

kind of nice healing too with the leech

[strong forum]

pretty sure fleshcraft was always scaling with HP

the only thing they changed was how the soulbinds interacted with it

aka final form nerfed

[sick sentinel]

no, old flesh craft was so awful they had to buff it in 9.1

[strong forum]

idk

idc

[dawn canyon]

9.0 was

[sick sentinel]

9.0 was dark times

[cinder storm]

petition to add :despair:

[strong forum]

9.0 was the patch i was the most active

so i cant really say it was dark times

[dawn canyon]

9.0 was good until it got too old

[strong forum]

was pretty alright to me except that pride was an awful affix

and ofc dungeon tuning was dog compared to now

[dawn canyon]

Raid banged

[mild palm]

fleshcraft was a 20% shield and they buffed it to 40%

[sick sentinel]

yeah, i just checked

it ONLY did those 2 things,

[mild palm]

they doubled the shield and did the damage reduction when channeling

nothing else directly to the spell afaik

[sick sentinel]

it gains a 3rd effect now 20% dr while channel

[crude notch]

Yeah he said that

[mild palm]

It lost the 50% buff from nearby corpses, got a flat 20% extra shield and the channel dr.

It had two effects before and still does.

[sick sentinel]

oh, and passive move near dead body get CDR 1 second on FC

[mild palm]

Well, I guess you could say the first effect is the 20% buff.

Isn't that a soulbind?

Maybe not. 🤷‍♂️

[sick sentinel]

it felt like an oversized priest bubble for sacrifice of 3 gcds, played it on mage 9.0

[mild palm]

Didn't most of the benefit of channeling it derive from soulbinds?

[ember tangle]

https://wago.io/n7l5uN3YM this one might be it

[strong forum]

Well he's looking for "when he should rally"

[mild palm]

Your guild needs to use ERT with the correct not efor that to work.

[strong forum]

Not "how long does rally last for"

[mild palm]

That isn't that.

It's a WA that calls when you need to pop cds based on an ERT note.

[ember tangle]

if you have a dynamic note it does a countdown for when you should use rally

[strong forum]

Ah

[ember tangle]

but it needs the note yes

[mild palm]

Viserio BiS

[sick sentinel]

rally is very nice

[keen maple]

i got it figured out guys

im actually really dumb

i can just remove all the other cds from my note except for rally

and make myrally timers take up half my screen

and make it glow when its time

[strong forum]

Sure I guess

[keen maple]

but i did also

[mild palm]

Does your guild use timed ERT notes?

[keen maple]

get that weakaura

ye

[mild palm]

Just get that WA

[keen maple]

Idid

[mild palm]

it shouts when you need to pop your cd

super useful

[keen maple]

it shouts?

how loud

[mild palm]

well

[ember tangle]

it has a sound

[mild palm]

visually shouting you know

🤣

[strong forum]

I just use my eyes

[keen maple]

im blind

[strong forum]

Rip

[sick sentinel]

im trying to use my eyes more now too

[keen maple]

my eyesight is really bad

and idk maybe im just bad but

[mild palm]

WA>Eyeballs

[sick sentinel]

thats why i changed UI, i been waiting on one you guys to post ui and when u did i stole it somewhat

[keen maple]

making perfect flowers on lihu and lining myself up with my group while alsotrying to read my note for my rally

[strong forum]

I mean if it helps it helps

[keen maple]

is hard >.<

[strong forum]

But you kinda juts remember when you're at the part of the fight where you press your 1 raid wide thing

Whatever helps

[keen maple]

i need help ☠️

[sick sentinel]

u need eyeballs to see WA unless ur blind and its a sound

[mild palm]

I have a weakaura for that.

[sick sentinel]

i have an app for that

[dawn canyon]

I have one that makes a Sound "Look"

[keen maple]

legit

im playing like this tonight

and itll glow when its my time to rally

[strong forum]

Bro

You're gonna make so many mistakes

[dawn canyon]

Just put it over ur meter

[jagged pier]

just get a combat timer

🤷

[dawn canyon]

Is Resolution bad or is Rally not keybound

[mild palm]

https://tenor.com/view/why-whatever-gif-23592041

[chrome falcon]

looks like it's on . or , @dawn canyon

[strong forum]

Ya resolution is defo scuffed is was wondering aswell

[dawn canyon]

So my eyes are bad

Nice

[mild palm]

Is it a 7? 🤣

Looks like it could be a 1. That'd be an interesting one.

[wraith hemlock]

It says 1

I dunno why but Im able to clearly see it on the phone

My desktop on the other hand looks like shit

[ember tangle]

is that rampage and execute on alt 2 + 3

[keen maple]

because me blind

and me raid need me rally

so me make drastic change to ui

so me stay on raid team

works btw thanks for weakaura

[ember tangle]

you're welcome

[dawn canyon]

You are prolly best off moving that up a bit

[mighty valley]

Is no one calling this rally

Where is raid leader in all of this

[minor helm]

Why call when you get a WA yelling at you

[mighty valley]

idk, circumstances can change and the WA can't adjust

[dawn canyon]

Base elvui is so scuffed i actually forgot abt it

[mild palm]

[keen maple]

theres alot going on at the time of the rallys

shouldnt need to waste comms on it

like the first one

is inbetween making our 2nd flower and also right after lining up our groups for harmonic/melodic

so its really hectic

and its my responsability to just rally when its noted

[mild palm]

It's way too complicated for a raid leader to completely shift raid cooldowns like that unless it's the very end of the fight and they're calling them. Weakauras are great for calling scheduled cooldowns at pre-determined times and reduce the strain on the raid leader as well as the clutter on discord, to focus on more important parts of the fights.

[mighty valley]

oh for mythic sure, was just looking at the screenshot of heroic halondrus and thought this seemed like overkill lol

[tardy sequoia]

Do you remember this from Antorus?

[sweet summit]

no but i want it rn

[chrome falcon]

it's crazy how much of a chump anduin is to tank

this dude does 0 damage on his melees

you can sit in the barrier on mythic for it's full duration without a taunt swap and your hp just doesn't move

[median tulip]

He is a Priest

Can't help but think that the Jailer made a tactical error by giving a 2 handed sword to a guy who doesn't know how to use one

[mighty valley]

wow villains have also always made the mistake of taunting their foe with the exact thing that makes them have a personal revelation and turn the tide of the fight

right at their moment of victory half the time, too

[sick sentinel]

okay, i just need gloves and figure out how to get to revered and im set

[mighty valley]

get revered the same way you got honored

but more

[sick sentinel]

need robot points to unlock more dailies

workin on it

[mighty valley]

a lot of the dailies don't give rep, weirdly

it's mostly the weekly quest + world boss + world quests

[wet pine]

Whats the most satisfying thing to spell reflect?

[mighty valley]

mordretha scythe right now

[fickle arrow]

What’s the best way you have found to not accidentally waste seeing red proc on thunderclap?

[dawn canyon]

Weakaura

[urban portal]

use it at 7 stacks to proc it early

[chrome falcon]

get the weakaura in the pins

and put TC on cooldown at 6 or 7 stacks

also: practice

also: accept and realise that TC is a dogshit spell that you don't want to press at the best of times

[dapper coral]

all these things

but the realisation that is might happen is a thing too. Try to avoid it but don't be el sadge if it happens

[wraith hemlock]

to spam TC like the guy in the logs linked here 9 hours ago did, roger that

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-riiiight-right-the-emperors-new-groove-gif-13672558

[chrome falcon]

Yeah no offence to that guy but that log literally hurt my brain that shit was had

Bad*

[wraith hemlock]

Do we want haste over ilvl?

[chrome falcon]

Literally only pressing SS and TC, 0 revenge casts

Wild

No

[timber slate]

[wraith hemlock]

if under 40%

[chrome falcon]

Except jewellery if it’s a big difference

[wraith hemlock]

yeah I figured neck/rings was a given since there is no Str on them

also, fishmancer is the one that drops totems, right?

avoid those groups for pulls?

ah no, its the scale boys

i'm dumb

[mighty valley]

yeah you'd guess that fishmancers cast fish spell

but they don't

[night depot]

seem to do naff all damage now ive switched to necro

im guessing just press it more xD

[chrome falcon]

necrolord multiplies your damage

kyrian adds a flat amount to it

so basically necrolord is harder to get damage out of because you need to already be doing good damage

[nocturne anchor]

how long can you have banner up in m+?

[chrome falcon]

there have been claims of 95%

80% is a good place to shoot for

but basically: a really bloody long time

[nocturne anchor]

Nice

thinking of making a prot warrior alt - is it a lot of fun right now? was thinking necro prot

[lofty widget]

very very fun

[cinder nova]

Express path to carpal tunnel

[oblique garnet]

By far the most fun tank ive played in a long time

[chilly brook]

Jakey has had 93% confirmed with details

[torpid junco]

What’s the logic on how it’s possible to have banner up 85%+

[civic torrent]

Chain Pull, dont fuck up Outburst procs on TC, generate a lot of rage, spend a lot of rage

last step is develop RSI

[urban portal]

Play better

That’s it

It’s like asking how dks have 100% uptime on their set pre nerf

At max stacks

[torpid junco]

It has a 2 minute CD and last 10 seconds right ?

[chrome falcon]

15, and, no, it lasts however long you want as long as you play well

[torpid junco]

Can you explain

What mechanic prolongs it?

[chrome falcon]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=353577/glory

[torpid junco]

And there’s a weakauara that’s recommended for managing outburst?

[mighty valley]

in the pins

[obtuse monolith]

So 15/120 to start. Spend 20 rage to extend it 1s. 100% uptime = spend 2100 rage in 120s.

You have to funnel a lot into IP but that’s off global.

[timber slate]

New ksm mount color is sick👀

[distant dragon]

Prince style

[fickle arrow]

How much mastery does banner give?

[timber slate]

400

[tropic linden]

How many stack are u swaping on rygelon

?

[shell shale]

Should i be in wind fury group or is that trolling. Tanking m raid

[urban portal]

well

if you need WFT to live then you misplayed

and if you are taking WFT for dam may as well give it to a dps unless no other dps benefits more

[mighty valley]

we get a big % boost from WFT

you should be in there over like... eye beam DHs

but since our overall is lower we don't beat most dps

[real wren]

So I am new to warrior. Are legendary boots best for reprisal?

[mighty valley]

yes, since legs are a tier slot

[real wren]

why not use gloves as teir and get higher stats with legendary legs

[mighty valley]

you want to craft glory on helm for stats + the socket

so there's only four tier slots left after that

[real wren]

o

ty

[mighty valley]

the differences are pretty small though, it's fine if you're not perfectly optimal immediately

[real wren]

well i was making sure im not losing out in the long run by giving up a leg legendary slot

what is glory helm?

[mighty valley]

covenant legendary

[sturdy sable]

My guild made all the possible ppl sim it highest numbers won

Which thankfully included me

[shell shale]

sounds good lmao

[tropic linden]

Yes, is a DPS gain for the raid

U are one if the best specs for it

[honest parcel]

Can someone help me understand why I'm taking a shit ton of damage in dreadlords? I have the logs but don't know how to read it, They are all wipes, I know what did I fucked up in try 7, missclicked the taunt at 1%, but in the rest I don't really know https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fxPdgyAtTn69D1NZ/

[civic torrent]

Your external healing required per second (ehrps) isn't particularly awful. I think there's a few things you can improve.

1. Spend more rage, you are overcapping a fuckton, press IP and revenge more. Rage spent = everything about prot becomes better.

2. Play Necrolord, the rage gained will translate to increased survival in multiple ways by spending the rage, which I can delve into deeper.

3. Play reprisal over the wall, you can save shield wall for the swarm phase, it will improve your shield block uptime substantially, use intervene after a frontal from a boss on you, on one of your melee dps. The rage gained from reprisal is also significant, which as per #1 and #2 is very good

4. Improve your SS casts, more ss means more rage which means more of #1 and #2

Also one of your healers doesn't really know what they are doing, so that will make you feel like you are more fragile

Other small things:

didn't use bss as much as you could have, didn't use kyrian spear as much as you could have, didn't use healthstone, didn't use last stand on cooldown as a damage cool down (with conduit it is), with double h priest, 2x symbol of hope will reduce your sw substantially, so more reason to play reprisal.

It's mostly there, just need to tighten the screws 👍

[mighty valley]

Your bear cotank is a lot worse than you on some of these attempts so if you're getting most of the blame, the guild is suffering from meta brain

[mental scarab]

bUt WaRrIoRs ArE bAD

[ionic fern]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-secret-chris-pratt-silence-dont-say-gif-17543341

[mental scarab]

[oblique garnet]

Buff warrior

[median tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-and-pam-yes-gif-21499107

[ruby locust]

https://tenor.com/view/agreed-yes-nodding-golden-girls-confirmed-gif-19805811

[oblique garnet]

I feel like if we complain enough we end up getting some another unnecessary aurabuff that takes us from strong to broken

Just need to get as good of an pr team as warlocks and boomies have

[ruby locust]

shhh they dont have to know . its for the greater good

[remote dawn]

hi guys, play we in m+ AM or Heavy Rep. ?

[ruby locust]

am always

[median tulip]

AM

[remote dawn]

What's the point of high players doing this? or thwe trolling xD

[median tulip]

Very very high keys where an unblocked hit is instant death, some people might use HR for the increased block time. We're talking 25+

[remote dawn]

kk ❤️ thx than for my keys 19-20 i play AM

[shut summit]

nope still am on 25+

[shell shale]

Yo sense how you feel about tanking this week?

you enjoying m+?

[shut summit]

ya enjoy this season

necrotic sucks as usual

[lyric geode]

I thought it was a neglible mechanic.

Still, I took my week of from pushing keys.

[mental scarab]

HR for no brain play

Just feel safer

[median tulip]

It's a great week for tanking keys, because so many tanks are scared of Necrotic so you get a lot more choice of keys

[mental scarab]

Yea this is Warrior week

Self heal to work as a tank

Not this week

Huhu

[shell shale]

Am i miss remembering Urh healing through Necrotic last time it was up?

[uncut notch]

It will ignore necrotic and heal you but it wont clear stacks

[ionic fern]

It's actually affected now.

Afaik.

[uncut notch]

The keys ive done this week its healed me through it but not cleared stacks

But it could just be a reduction on the MASSIVE hps it kicks out

[ionic fern]

Now it's just mixed information.

Someone post logs.

Cause i cba doing testing.

[night oracle]

can dark iron dwarf gets ridof necrotic or bursting ?

[ionic fern]

Yes.

[night oracle]

so basically any dots ?

so far it seems like it

[ionic fern]

Yes.

There are some that it won't work on, but these are mostly from raid.

[night oracle]

thanks

[uncut notch]

Are we all still running necro this week?

Tried a 20 as kyr and felt uber gimped

Didnt enjoy it at all

[strong forum]

Don't think it's worth it to play kyrian

[trim bay]

So in a key my banner up time should be around 80-90 percent if I'm not shit is that correct

[jagged pier]

yes

thats in combat so on details

not in logs

[trim bay]

How do I control having it up and then losing it due to the dungeon or not having trash at the time. Otherwise I'm just really shit I guess. Im siting on 70

[jagged pier]

well u dont stop

thats basically how

[ionic fern]

You can't control stuff like that outside of thinking ahead about the pulls you're doing and if there's distance between the pulls.
E.g..banner just came off CD, do i pop it on this pack knowing i need to walk 30s after this pack to reach another pack or wait until the other pack to use it then knowing i can efficiently chain pull after.

Etc

[jagged pier]

u can also like start dragging mobs towards the next pack

so u can keep uptime

its all getting used to it

i posted a vid yesterday of a key where i had 93% uptime or somthing, but like i didnt stop pulling it was SD tho, so there isnt much downtime 🤷

[trim bay]

Yea makes sense. I only just switched from kyrian. Doing 23s now and was told to switch. I went off icy veins for my conduit tree. I feel like I shouldn't be using show of force. Or are we forced to

[jagged pier]

you use SoF on fort weeks

ashen on tyran

[median tulip]

I find it much easier to get high banner uptime on Fort weeks

[wraith hemlock]

well trash lasts longer and that means we usually get 3 rage per second from being hit

I don't think bosses attack that fast

[ionic fern]

Keeping banner up on bosses 100% is a joke anyways.

👀

[wraith hemlock]

well yeah that too

[median tulip]

As long as the boss doesn't have some stupidly long intermission

[sand pebble]

you in here kami?

[median tulip]

Oh boy

[sand pebble]

lmfao

[jagged pier]

i've heard that from a fury warrior before as well KEKW

[blazing condor]

well you can spam more rage through IP than SB i guess considering you dont have charges

[timber slate]

Nah real Chads spend rage on WW😑

[median tulip]

I had to explain "don't get hit in the back" to a Fury warrior in my guild when he started trying to tank

[sand pebble]

not when you are complaining that those mobs hit hard while completly ignoring the fact you can press sb and negate so much more damage than ip

[wraith hemlock]

I mean why use the CORE mechanics of protection warrrior since VANILLA when you can just use ignore pain

[sand pebble]

but i guess that 3.5% heal is so much better in tw

[wraith hemlock]

pretty sure Kami knows stuff we don't

[sand pebble]

i was trying to help him get better

[wraith hemlock]

Maybe he thinks he is still playing dudu bear and has to tank with his face

[wraith hemlock]

I mean if anyone replied to me like he did there to you I would just: right clic name-> ignore

[jagged pier]

no u tell them to come here, and then they realise your a SF in the channel so u know what your talking about

then u get ignored by them

[gray iris]

damn even 70 is like a huge win for me and 90+ banner uptime is godly...The best i can do is 50 lol

[jagged pier]

it takes practice

[wraith hemlock]

they do say practice makes perfection

[gray iris]

yeah true that

[wraith hemlock]

sometimes when I'm waiting for guildies to do shit I sit on the training dummy and try to keep banner up

[sand pebble]

you should be auctioning off to the highest bidder who you still give banner to

[wraith hemlock]

I always give it to the priest

the priest gives me PI

[sand pebble]

nice

[wraith hemlock]

i'm 100000% gonna give mastery to the priest

[gray iris]

i think banner makes sense if you have lots of haste... I have around 21% which leads to slow revenge and ss and i lose time on banner as a result... also skill is a major factor aswell

[wraith hemlock]

yeah that haste is very low

check if you can optimize your gear

[gray iris]

i cant.. have to wait till tuesday and pray i get a ring with haste

[wraith hemlock]

I don't think dropping ilvls is worth it unless its neck/rings thou

[jagged pier]

its not

and even then like 15 ilvls its an upgrade

because more stats > less better stats

[wraith hemlock]

yeah due to stat amount

[median tulip]

Dropping ilvl for Haste is 100% worth it on Rings and Necklaces

Within reason, obviously. 278v272 or 272v262

[wraith hemlock]

i'm at 34% haste unbuffed

[median tulip]

Most people seem to sit in the mid 30s with 275ish gear

[jagged pier]

i mean that depends if i had better rings and haste on my cloak and haste on my shield i might actually be at 40%

[gray iris]

my freaking mastery is 33%

[wraith hemlock]

Just need to replace that belt (hopefully)

I could try to get OWS but doubt my guild will run that for an alt

[median tulip]

I don't have any Haste on Belt, Cloak, Weapon or Shield

[blazing condor]

think im like 33% haste

[median tulip]

OTOH I do come up with a bunch of crit there, so it's all good

[blazing condor]

but i play OWS

[wraith hemlock]

I swapped unity around due to that

only had 1 ring with haste

[lofty widget]

[blazing stump]

Hello, healer main for 3 xpac here and shifting towards tanking with warrior. What circumstances or when do you use execute? also is intervene that important? do you use it for mobility or when saving an ally or both?

[median tulip]

I'm ok for Rings. 278 Stitchflesh and 272... Whichever it is that's Haste with a bit if Mastery

[gray iris]

isnt 4% vers too low?

[wraith hemlock]

but now I got some 278 ring with crit/haste (from TOP i think) so I might swap my unity for prot to belt

[lofty widget]

you use execute over revenge on 3 or fewer targets, intervene should be used close to on cd due to reprisal

[wraith hemlock]

intervene is used basically on CD with reprisal leggo

unless there is some ability you might need to help soak

[median tulip]

Execute is your Rage dump when available. Dead enemies do no damage. Intervene you use more or less on Cooldown to proc the effects of Reprisal.

[wraith hemlock]

but ew've commanding shout for that

[blazing stump]

Ahhh reprisal legendary, currently lvl 45 rushing lvl 60 and farm 4pc and 2leggo.

[lofty widget]

rather have crit than vers

cause more dmg

[wraith hemlock]

I believe the only time I've held my intervene was 3rd boss of SD in a tyr week. A dps went bat shit crazy and grabbed like 6 orbs and left healer with 1 orb so I had to use my intervene on him

[blazing stump]

Reading the guides/faq area for tanking, that's a lot of reading to be done. For blocking and spell reflect.

[gray iris]

lmao

[lofty widget]

theres a few bosses that have group mechanics every 30 sec so it makes sense to hold intervene for those

[blazing stump]

What slot do you guys recommend for reprisal?

[median tulip]

Feet

[wraith hemlock]

I mean it is fun remembering that shit right now but the healer was fumming

[wraith hemlock]

I still don't do keys that high for it to matter tbh

[lofty widget]

boots, unity on belt, then helmet when you have 4pc (not that important tho)

[wraith hemlock]

but i'll give it an eye

[blazing stump]

My goal for now is aotc and 3k io before pushing higher keys and mythic raiding. My experience so far is 3300 io rsham 4/11m but tanking is a whole other perspective and its exciting.

I'll probably die a lot to stuff i have never realized as a healer before.

in m+ and raids

[wraith hemlock]

like my highest timed is a 17 HOA on fort week (rag/explosive)

[lofty widget]

make sure to log your runs and im sure theres lots of people in here who can give great feedback

[gray iris]

mine is 16+ sd

[wraith hemlock]

first tip. Don't turn your back to mobs

[blazing stump]

Is logging m+ the same process as in raid? just /combatlog and click the app thingy?

[median tulip]

You want Necrolord, talent 3x1x231

[lofty widget]

yea

[wraith hemlock]

I think the funniest part of watching my raid healer go tank for dungeons for the first time was seeing how he turned his back to the packs to pull more

[blazing stump]

That much I know, that's how the tanks i heal die. No shield on the back for blocking/parry.

[wraith hemlock]

and got erased from existence

[median tulip]

The don't turn your back thing is one of those things that every tank main knows, but just isn't explained anywhere

[blazing stump]

[gray iris]

NECCROTIC I THINK IS THE TOUGHEST WEEK FOR TANKS

[blazing stump]

I get flamed a lot as a healer for not healing but how can i when his necrotic stack is 50+

SLT is the best i can do with some stuns, cc

[blazing stump]

How many necrolord abilities do prot warr have and how/when to use them properly?

[timber slate]

Bring a monk for RoP👀

[gray iris]

There are 2 abilites..banner and flesh craft shield

[ionic fern]

Necrotic after the nerfs..is free. 👀

[jagged pier]

it was free before

[ionic fern]

Well jeah

But now it's free for everyone.

[median tulip]

If Necrotic is a problem then your DPS aren't going enough damage

or interrupting enough

It's basically a nothing affix on pure melee

[wraith hemlock]

You could also just use a frost mage

Perma slow for insurance when you need to yeet the fuck put

[timber slate]

Dps dying to spiteful is a bigger issue

[sick sentinel]

Paladin if you can both trust eachother with bop timing g and your macro removal of bop

Monk rop

Druid roots typhoon

Those are other good ways to deal with necrotic, roster mage also very useful

[mental scarab]

@median tulip just bring 3 surv hunters

[sick sentinel]

Because, you temporarily drops everything amount t of aggro if you get bop

[mental scarab]

Trash go brrrrrrrp

[wraith hemlock]

I had so much fun on my old war on weeks like this

Necrotic was non wxistent for my dwarf kyrian prot warrior

Super funny cuz my ally guild would have me dps as war except for necro weeks. Necro weeks I was the tank

[tropic linden]

Holy shit, 5 min banner

[ionic fern]

On bosses..100% means 100%..

[tropic linden]

That was from my anduin kill

on heroic

missed my timing mid fight

[timber slate]

Hope you topped the meter👀

[tropic linden]

Died at last phase, ppl took to long to remove the debuff and they rez the other tank 😦

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Lbkqh8GyBPjJnvQa#fight=5&type=damage-done&cutoff=2

Still made 84%

[chrome falcon]

rezzing the other tank during execute

[tropic linden]

Yeah, the healer said he just clicked any tank

didn't think who to rez

[timber slate]

Ret pal doing 27k dps🤔
Huge

[tropic linden]

without PI

[timber slate]

I always see people asking for ret buffs lol
I dont see any problem

[chrome falcon]

chain deaths the whole fight

or well

from 8-9 mins

the ret would have had 100% uptime on wings basically

[timber slate]

Spamming divine storm

[sick sentinel]

Amount of rage spent to do this = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfoj7t7NZkI

[marsh plover]

Looks to me like Urh heal works normally with necrotic

[timber slate]

44 stacks

[jagged pier]

thats usual

[marsh plover]

Yeah notice I'm topped by the first tick of urh after necrotic falls. I'm really loving pwar this patch and still gearing/learning it but it's a blast so far.

[subtle perch]

I'm trying to unlearn by bad habits from playing bdk as I learn pwar

[mellow gorge]

How the heck did you get a 5 min banner

What in tarnation

[dawn canyon]

Pump that rage

[lime urchin]

By pressing buttons!

[mellow gorge]

I press my buttons alot

And necro lasts for only 2 minutes at best :(

[jagged pier]

then u arent

[past grove]

Short answer: get angrier but don't waste your rage

[chrome falcon]

5 minute banner is super easy on anduin

[lyric geode]

Is avoidance quite good to stack?

I have like 10% avoidance.

or I shouldnt bothered?

[urban portal]

no

anything you can avoid with avoidance is either a skill issue (puddles/swirlies) or a healer issue (raid rot)

[lyric geode]

Reducing the raid dmg from boss stack on jailer and obliteration?

[lofty widget]

in top of all keys

[distant crystal]

or tank mechanics on jailer

avoidance is giga there

[urban portal]

yeah or that

but its good for specific mechs

but ilvl also gives you survival

so you dont ever look to stack avoidance

[tropic linden]

U can hit 100% of the time, don't need to stay away for any mechanic

It's not easy, but it's just pressing buttons

[lyric geode]

So, 272 weapon with avoidance or 278 weapon without?

[strong forum]

Avoidance works on aoe mechanics, so it's generally preferred for raid purposes

[strong forum]

278, easily

On weapons and shield you only care about ilvl

[tropic linden]

and by pressing LS on CD

also helps a lot

[tropic linden]

And not wasting rage during hero

Hero + LS is a tricky situation

[lyric geode]

I am more impressed with the downtime. More like isnt there platforms and shit?

[tropic linden]

Don't w8 for ur team

The actual TP is fast, but ppl don't go at the same time

[lyric geode]

Still there is RP from plat to plat

[tropic linden]

IP is on my wheel up. I roll that shit like a motherfucker

[lyric geode]

What key level?

[lofty widget]

25

[lyric geode]

Impressive, very nice.

[strong forum]

now lets see tim allens uptime

[lyric geode]

Kewk

[ruby locust]

I timed my first 19 last night ! Felt good definitely seeing progress from just reading chat 😌

[chrome falcon]

20 next sir

[teal swift]

I like stacking speed

[urban portal]

^

speed is the best stat for blood and warriors

[teal swift]

It's so gooood

[chrome falcon]

i'm so used to having banner up that when i play anything else i'm like

hey why am i so goddamn slow

[fierce quarry]

hello new to tanking, what soulbind and traits do we go for as kyrian?

[ruby locust]

Go necro it’s more fun

[lyric geode]

Maybe he doesnt have any t4 set yet

[fierce quarry]

I play necro but since my group needs a kyrian for nw im going kyr

[ruby locust]

I didn’t mean that in a bad way I just like necro

[lyric geode]

Yy, but high uptime banner is the result of t4p

[ruby locust]

Mikanikos btw

[fierce quarry]

I was looking at some of the top kyrian prot warrs on raiderio and theyre going for kleia

I guess it's only for this week?

[strong forum]

its specifically only for this week, but i dont recommend it for anyone really

not needed

[chrome falcon]

an extra spear so you can kite is probably just as useful for necrotic

and more damage

necrotic is a joke affix don't waste dps to make it easier

[lyric geode]

Some mobs cant be cced normally though, you need extra speed for that

[fierce quarry]

im looking to tank my group's 21 nw but like i feel uncomfrotable not playing necro so yeah. Plus i main dps and kinda new to tanking somewhat higher keys. Also this week's affix combo aint helping :|