protection

[gray iris]

hey guys should i go for necro banner ability or just stick with sob?

[civic torrent]

All good

Play Necro

[gray iris]

will i have to complete their campaign?

[blazing condor]

Nop

i just did some intro shit til i unlocked the soulbinds

And since you can play marileth you only need to get the first soulbind

[gray iris]

also what do you guys suggest for my second legendary? I already have reprisal

[sweet summit]

the other one has to be unity

or do you mean another legendary to use instead of reprisal?

[ionic fern]

Seismic/Reprisal/Unity are all you need.

Could make a argument for The Wall as well.

[lyric geode]

Is there a blacklist of players

In wow vanilla?

[celest nacelle]

Morning guys, would you take the tier legs (giving 3p, can 4p with catalyst this week but have to recraft reprisal as in this slot atm), or the shield (have the same version in 265 atm)

[lyric geode]

ALWAYS a shield

[celest nacelle]

Thanks! I was a little unsure as I can upgrade my current one with valor up to 272 anyway

[sweet summit]

are u killing first boss mythic every week?

[celest nacelle]

Not on this, no

[sweet summit]

is it a possibility?

[celest nacelle]

I have many tank alts for keys, but I main a holy priest for raids

No possibility, unless I pug it

[sweet summit]

ok nvm shield it is then i guess

do lfr for 4pc

[celest nacelle]

Yeah true. Thanks for the help!

[lyric geode]

Is first boss shield better than the rest?

[median tulip]

No

[sweet summit]

nah but 278 shield+decent ilvl4pc>278 shield+lfr 4pc

[median tulip]

Opinions vary on the Saviour. Personally I think it's ok for pure single-target raid tanking, but I would rather have a shield with stats on for keys

[jagged pier]

if anything its the other way round

as saviours provides more block

and u take far more melee damage in keys than raid

[flint cliff]

I am dps main but chose prot spec on vault this ID. I have the sepulchers savior 278 as loot option. My actual shield is the 262 TOP shield. Other loot would be only a slightly dps increase for dps gear (around 4 dps simmed). Is it worth to take the shield? How good is the effect and increased Block by 127?

[sweet summit]

4 dps is nothing, take shield or socket depending on how much you play prot

[jagged pier]

u take the shield

and u dont use the on use

u just keep it in defense mode

[flint cliff]

Okay ty

[strong forum]

When it comes to shield you don't care about dps

All you care about is block value aka ilvl

[blazing condor]

So when will creation catalyst not be one a week

[jagged pier]

never

[blazing condor]

Sad

[timber slate]

Offense and defensive mode
What does it do exactly?

[ionic fern]

For what?

The shield?

[timber slate]

Yes

[ionic fern]

Did they change the tooltip or...?

It states pretty clearly what it does.

👀

[tardy lily]

good day :) is there a WA that can announce/show which spells are reflectable with SR and which not? or just hard learning

[lofty widget]

there's a sheet in the pins for reflectable/blockable spells that you can study

[sick sentinel]

seems like they nerfed torghast box costs

only 500 points and i'm finished with that

[lyric geode]

No

ToP scythe is spell reflectable

[thorny stone]

https://wago.io/POcV_KnPi

[ember tangle]

Does curse of weakness work on all bosses? And if not is there somewhere you can see which?

[thorny stone]

or the good ol' https://wago.io/SpellReflectionTracker

[wind jacinth]

Just recently dinged 60, currently ilvl 240 from doing lfr, but want to start tankimg M+ but haven't even done the dungeons on normal LOL... what do recommend doing? How do I learn the dungeons and routing this late into the xpac?

[thorny stone]

Start slow, do your own key, check the weekly routes on icy-veins (by petko) or the ones made by dratnos on raider.io, watch videos

And more importantly, practice,practice,practice,practice,practice

[wind jacinth]

Cheers mate

[thorny stone]

befriend a healer so you both can shit talk the dps

[wind jacinth]

Haha.. true

[tardy lily]

@thorny stone thanks :D

[thorny stone]

you can check some keys on @shut summit 's channel

https://www.youtube.com/c/SenseNurfed
https://www.twitch.tv/snse

and @patent osprey sometimes plays warrior, used to main it but left us to look for greener pastures

https://www.youtube.com/c/Plkatv/videos
https://www.twitch.tv/plkatv

[wind jacinth]

Also, Any ElvUI and or weak aura profiles worth copying?

[blazing condor]

Id say make one yourself

But quazii made minimalistic ones back in 9.1

[wild hemlock]

LOL i cant make 4p because i dont have a chest or helm from this season yet

[wind jacinth]

Yeah, reckon they would still be ok for 9.2?

[thorny stone]

its what i use

[blazing condor]

Ye they would

[strong forum]

Mine also works

Hasn't been updated for necrolord or tier yet, I can upload it later

[jagged pier]

mine works

[strong forum]

Classique ui pleb

Smh

[jagged pier]

might actually get rid of alot of addons next expansion

👍

[sweet summit]

[jagged pier]

[deft hinge]

RnG jesus, got my 3rd piece today, wohoo so fun with 3 pieces. i feel the bonus is closin wohoo

[civic burrow]

Hey guys gonna start my new life as a prot tank for my guild any suggestions on how to learn spot placements for fights?

[jagged pier]

spot placements for fights?

there no such thing anymore

[civic burrow]

Oh ok very new to this whole tanking thing our tank left and I've always wanted to tank so I'm filling in been fury for 3 years now just a lil freaked out I'm gonna fuck up learn all this stuff

[tame jasper]

I need some advice about my vault as I cant decide: atm I wear: unity on helm, crafted 278 tier on shoulder and chest, 265 hc tier hands and legs. We had our first kill of mythic Dausegene last monday (loving your vids @shut summit )

I now have in vault a 278 set helm with 77 speed and 278 hands I could craft into set and then change unity to legs. What would you suggest? Helm is the „we dont want slot“ and lihuvuum should be at lesst more /faster reachable than halondrus

[chrome falcon]

long term unity is best on helm

because you can get 285 legs and gloves

and make that tier

[tame jasper]

Yeah thats loooong term (where Im not conviced if my guild will kill last 3 bosses)

[trim bay]

hey guys. for mythic dasausage the add should be tanked on the boss or close to it and at the edge of platform? the 3 black circles will come out of the rear of the add? also when the tank stacks drop off it does damage to the entire platform. doesnt matter how close or far away you are from the tank with the debuff the damage will be the same>

[tame jasper]

@trim bay close so melees van cleave. Best no puddles (not always managable, depending on dps)

[trim bay]

so the puddles can be mitigated if the add is killed quick

[tame jasper]

Yes

[trim bay]

thanks 🙂

[chrome falcon]

@trim bay we made sure to kill the add that spawns at 2:10 super fast with our 2 min Cds so it wouldn't spawn puddle

for every other add it's really hard to skip puddle

and yes tank bomb hits whole platform range doesn#t matter

just be careful that you don't tank add near the place where she'll teleport

[ember tangle]

Why is the 2:10 add more important?

[chrome falcon]

it's not

but we have 2 mins running anyway

so it's possible to kill it before puddle

which just makes it easier

[ember tangle]

Aah ok

[merry coyote]

Hi, can anyone explain how accurate the description of 4 pieces is? It contains 10 % damage reduction on avatar among the other things, But it doesnt apeear in buffs or avatar new description. I tested it on tanking mannequin and i noticed that avatar doesnt reduce incoming damage

[urban portal]

Could be a bug

[sweet summit]

it's just a tooltip error

[cerulean wyvern]

When are they going to allow prot warriors the ability to use 2h? The increase in dps would offset the lower survivability we have.

[urban portal]

You can already use 2h

Execute does like 15% more damage on 2h

Just saying

[cerulean wyvern]

2h+shield

[urban portal]

Play fury

Though, 2h doesn’t mean we’ll do more dps

Gearing in wow is an illusion

Fury isn’t stronger than arms just because they have 2 2hs

[cerulean wyvern]

Uh…2h would increase prot warrior AP. And would also give access to gavel

[urban portal]

Gavel for sure

But as a general case statement when we lose borrowed power no

[cerulean wyvern]

Also, 2h would add more stats.

[urban portal]

It would increase stats but class will be tuned around it

Fury literally has 200 more secondary stats and more ap than arms

But they are only better due to borrowed power

[cerulean wyvern]

Where prot warrior lacks in survivability compared to other tanks, they should make up for it with more dps. Hence granting access to 2h would do just that.

[urban portal]

Again without borrowed power that doesn’t matter

Sure this patch it will

But come 10.0 or whatever once we lose gavel, the class will be balanced around it

[cerulean wyvern]

Everything will change again with next patch anyways….

[urban portal]

Like let’s say we did reasonable damage with a 2h

Then we never would’ve gotten that 6% at beginning of 9.2

So it would be exactly the same

[cerulean wyvern]

Even after the 6% we’re still lower. So more can be done

[lofty widget]

we're also unkillable, thats a fair trade off i think

[urban portal]

Are we tho

[urban portal]

Like how blood was doing absolute piss damage in 9.0 and 9.1

Until gavel and 4 set become a thing

Just because they have a 2hand doesn’t mean they do more damage

It’s about borrowed power and blizzard pity

Blood even got 10% before 9.1

In fact blood could’ve been dual wielding jaithys in 9.1 and still be doing awful dam

[strong forum]

Both 10% changes are working, just not properly displayed ingame

[cerulean wyvern]

It’s like you said. The class is tuned around that. Bdk can use 2h so they were originally tuned with that. Prot warriors were not. Adding the ability to use 2h will instantly increase our dps and stats without needing to tune anything.

[urban portal]

And they'll tune us accordingly

[strong forum]

Our dmg is pretty much inline tho?

I don't see the issue?

[jagged pier]

apprently its not nome

i dunno

[urban portal]

Every tank is doing reasonable st

Except blood

[strong forum]

And vdh

[jagged pier]

doing more/ the same as all tank but Nowah on bdk is bad apprently

[strong forum]

Vdh is God awful

In terms of St dmg

[urban portal]

Vdh has funny aoe survival

[strong forum]

They're literally 3k behind us, and 7k behind bdk

[cerulean wyvern]

Where those tanks may do less dps, they make up for it on mobility and survivability.

[strong forum]

But in aoe they're fine

[urban portal]

What do you propose, give us the ability to use gavel for this patch and remove it in 9.3?

[strong forum]

Only vdh is more mobile than pwar lol

[jagged pier]

yes because warrior isnt one of if not the most mobile tank class 👍

and takes no fucking damage at all

[cerulean wyvern]

Hence why they do less dps.

[strong forum]

Pwar is so bad that it doesn't need healers in 20s

Ohnooo

[minor helm]

Prot owns

[jagged pier]

true

[strong forum]

Pwar is so bad it only does 11-14k dps in keys ohnoo

Truly unfortunate

[jagged pier]

its so bad its only in the top 10 of all damage of tanks on skolex

[strong forum]

Pwar outheals healers in keys ohnoo we're so bad

[jagged pier]

so true

[urban portal]

In fact I can probably show you how much damage a 2h would give

1 second

Lemme finish pooping

[strong forum]

2h would net us less dmg

Btw

[jagged pier]

less deva procs with 2h

[strong forum]

^

This

[urban portal]

Yeah

That too

But I'm just gonna sim a hypothetical stat increase

[strong forum]

They'd need to rebalance our kit for 2h to be good

[jagged pier]

just let us tmog it like in 9.0

[strong forum]

Ya

That's all I want tbh

[urban portal]

Not that hard to rebalance I think

Frost dk is balanced for both

[strong forum]

It's not hard at all

[urban portal]

Relatively speaking

You get like triple the attack speed on frost

[strong forum]

Just needs a change on devastator

From 20 to 40% chance

Or atleast 30%

[urban portal]

Yeah something like that

[jagged pier]

but we run WM

[strong forum]

Honestly

No cap

Give us arms rage gen + shield slam

[jagged pier]

^

[urban portal]

Make crits generate more rage could be cool

[strong forum]

16 rage per AA fuck yeah
24 rage on crits or w/e it is

Ye

[waxen ember]

is there a slot of the tier set which would be better to be used for another high lvl m+ item?

[strong forum]

No

You use 4 tier pieces

Helm is unity

[waxen ember]

understand

[strong forum]

Assuming you raid mythic

If you don't raid mythic uuuhm

Still helmet I think

Cuz most stat gain

[jagged pier]

nah it will be like chest or hands for better stats

[strong forum]

Or chest unity

[jagged pier]

as tier helm is haste vers

[strong forum]

Ya then prolly chest

Cuz moar and better stats

[waxen ember]

so helm tier is prefered?

[strong forum]

Assuming you will never get access to 285 gear

Yes

Cuz tier Helm has bis stats

[minor helm]

Ur bis nome

[waxen ember]

i see

[minor helm]

[strong forum]

[timber slate]

Unlocked the big boi from order hall campaign

[worthy frost]

What is Gavel?

[urban portal]

2h weapon

[timber slate]

Jailers weapon

[worthy frost]

oooh, im with you!

[strong forum]

That overpowered thing making bdk go off the charts

In conjunction with their tiers ceiling being a little too high

Bdk could get 100% fixed without nerfing the average player

If they nerf gavel, and reduce the max stacks they can get out of their tier

[sacred timber]

I mean.... Frost DK you are trolling if you play 2H breath, or DW oblit.

But frost can go either 2H or DW, but you have to change your entire build

[urban portal]

yeah

but its still somewhat ok

if they just made something like punish not shit

or whatever

it requires some work but not very difficult

[sacred timber]

You are talking like a 1k+ dps loss for 2H Breath or DW Oblit.

[urban portal]

im saying 2h and dw is playable tho with different talents

lets say a hypothetical 2h warrior is playable

devastator would be bad

but what if you had a passive that says your rage gen from autos is doubled with a 2h

then it would be the same

[sacred timber]

In that case you would run into the same issue as DK but to a lesser extent

where weapons decide what playstyle you have.

But for DK it changes your whole rotation

[vernal vale]

I mean single minded fury isn't bad in reality ignoring things like jaithis and gavel

[sacred timber]

That doesnt seem like it would be the case if warr could use 2H

[urban portal]

yeah thats why i said its all in illusion of balancing

[vernal vale]

That's ans example of 1h vs 2h

[urban portal]

an illusion of balancing

but as it stands the balance on frost dk isnt too bad

[vernal vale]

Until people in my raid myself included got jaithis I was playing single minded and slapping on our other fury warriors.

[urban portal]

not hard to tune SMF either

give it another 3% or so

[sacred timber]

but again, 9.2 is aight, but in 9.1 Oblit was a meme and unplayable.

[vernal vale]

Yeah it's already really close.

[urban portal]

like literally increase it by 3%

you are still outclassed by jaithys and gavel

but who cares

[vernal vale]

Meh, weapons adding extra bullshit just makes the perception worse.

[urban portal]

gearing is already insanely boring

this is fine

[vernal vale]

Hence why no one plays SMH

Unless your a prot main who has to dps.

I'll be single minded at this point should I fury just because my 1h weapons vastly outclass what I have for 2h

[sacred timber]

3% is a lot of dmg

or it can be in some situations

[vernal vale]

All has to do with how hard 1h weapons hit vs 2h

That's why single minded already gets a huge damage buff doe using 1h weapons.

Already gets 12% damage buff

[urban portal]

its behind by 3%

[sacred timber]

I mean yea, but then you still gotta get either both one hands or both two hands. And if all they do is make shit like jai or gavel then people will complain that they have to get 2 1Hs until last boss and get two of X weapon

[vernal vale]

To put it closer in line to titans grip

[urban portal]

3-5%

and plays exactly the same way

so if we buff it by 3%

[sacred timber]

or that the end weapon doesn't feel rewarding to get

[urban portal]

itll only be 2% behind

and thats fine

[vernal vale]

Don't need to always make special weapons for everyone.

[urban portal]

yeah

im not saying making smf better

just make it not as bad

[vernal vale]

I'm happy to play SMF now if I dps as I'm not raiding anymore so I'll never get gavel.

Which means odds are by playing prot I'll just have better 1h weapons. So I'll do better numbers than using the 2h weapons from last tier.

[sacred timber]

this is what I am leaning on

already got 2 278s, but idk if I'll actually play fury again

[minor helm]

I mean you don't have to stay in prot loot forever

[urban portal]

no

you are commited the moment you make your char

[vernal vale]

Until I get 278 shield

[sacred timber]

S2 vs S3 lmao

Playing DPS is annoying cause you have to pug for like 7 hours

[vernal vale]

As a dungeon only guy I'll probably push to 3k io.

I'm preferring tank but sometimes I see a key I want and just dps it.

I did a 17 gambit last week that had one spot left so I just hopped in as dps

[sacred timber]

I feel like I am the only person who doesnt play multiple roles on the same character

[vernal vale]

I don't play alts.

[sacred timber]

I only play prot on warrior, heals on priest, heals on monk, dmg on dk.

[vernal vale]

So that means I warrior one way or another.

[ocean yoke]

gotta pull out the dps warrior every now and then to flex on your guilds warriors on their own spec too

[latent hull]

Was prot war nerfed yesterday? The patch notes referred to a change to 4pc that isn't listed in the tooltip on the gear?

[ocean yoke]

pvp only change looks like

[sweet summit]

pvp change yea

says so in the notes

[vernal vale]

Yeah, before 4piece bonus I was beating our other fury warriors in a couple dungeons

[ocean yoke]

they saw the rextroy video

[latent hull]

gotcha...I see that now...thanks

[sacred timber]

I did this once this season and it got my message across since we had 4 guild members pick up fury this season

[timber slate]

Go arms 👀

[sacred timber]

This was S2, notice anything funny?

[timber slate]

Vdh doing good dps?

[timber slate]

Oh wow🤣

[sacred timber]

this is why I can't stand when people make excuses for doing sub-10k dps now.

If I can do 9.5k with no legendary at 249ilvl. You can do 10k with 270+ ilvl and 2 legendaries and a 4pc tier set.

[sick sentinel]

no lfr anduin set token

[agile pumice]

i was pulling 10k overall at 250 ilvl on day 2 of learning sub lol

[lilac minnow]

Anyone got a suggestion on what to pick:
6 ilvl upgrade on tier (272 upgraded to 278)
Or
278 belt with mastery/haste and socket (have 278 with crit/vers)?

[upbeat marten]

How good do yall think peot warrior is compared to other tanks currently?

Just made one and I'm about 235iah and I don't know if prot was the play If I wanted to push higher

[urban portal]

its fine

if you enjoy it you play it

bdk is the best rn

[upbeat marten]

Alright

Ty

[blazing condor]

Ilvl upgrade cus main stat >>>

[tepid bobcat]

Is the "pulsating riftshard" trinket any good?

[strong forum]

nop

actual dogshit

[tepid bobcat]

ah never mind then lol

[strong forum]

they even nerfed its defensive capabilites before 9.2 went live

and it was already trash back then

they nerfed its absorb and buffed its damage

[tepid bobcat]

Thanks for the heads up

Ill take the minor ilvl upgrade neck item then

[lilac minnow]

@blazing condor ty 😄

[torpid junco]

Which M+ shield should I dump valor into?

[strong forum]

top or mists

cuz haste

[prime rivet]

for m+, is ilvl on rings better than taking haste/vers with lower ilvl?

[strong forum]

depends on how many ilvl

[prime rivet]

262 to 278

[strong forum]

but generally a 265 with perfect stats will be better than a 278 vers mastery

imo

if the 278 has haste, its better

if it doesnt, ignore it unless you already have north of 30% haste then you can get away with say a crit vers ring imo

and obv a if you have a socket on the ring its better

[prime rivet]

well i have both stitchflesh and collapsing at 262

but i also have a 278 mastery/haste and 278 crit/mast

[tropic linden]

What are we SR at anduin Heroic? Hopebreaker and soul reaper?

[strong forum]

if youre okay with dropping some haste, the 278 mastery/haste should be usable

[strong forum]

cant you just SR both? he doesnt do hopebreaker during LK phase afaik

[tropic linden]

yeah, but there is other spell i need to pay attention to SR?

[strong forum]

no

[tropic linden]

Thanks 🙂

[torpid junco]

What are our soft caps? Like when do I not want more haste?

[jagged pier]

u dont stop

[mighty valley]

DR kicks in at 30% but haste is still v good, it gets worse at 40%

[jagged pier]

thats 40% unbuffed

[mighty valley]

yeah

ignore ITF etc

[sick sentinel]

so, if i have old covenant leggos i just DE those, i got 262 belt glory, 235 legs EM 190 cloak NF

[urban portal]

yea

or keep them for ilvl

[sick sentinel]

delete the glory belt for points towards 291 unity?

[urban portal]

what points

are you grinding rep

all you need is rep

[sick sentinel]

got 2.66k of fluxes and i heard you can buy some amount of soul ash/cinder for those fluxes, that or i can do above delete glory for unity

[urban portal]

do you have the memory of unity yet

if not dont disenchant anything

[sick sentinel]

i have shitter 265 unity

[urban portal]

the memory

not the item

the memory that you get from getting revered

[sick sentinel]

it appeared in my bags after i hit 7/7 story

oh no

[urban portal]

im not talking about the belt

the memory

[sick sentinel]

half way to honor

[urban portal]

yeah grind that first

[sick sentinel]

type of content i intend mostly on doing is lfr/ up to 15s for now for catch up just died lol, but 291 unity rn yeah?

[urban portal]

you cant even craft 291 unity rn

why think

[dawn canyon]

291 unity once revered

[sick sentinel]

oh, i was able to craft 291 rep boots

[urban portal]

thats different

[sick sentinel]

is that the revered/honored thing?

[dawn canyon]

Unity being craftable is rep tied

[sick sentinel]

i have 3445/6000 enlightened, restarted sub on monday after noon

[dawn canyon]

Good luck with the rep

[sturdy sable]

Youll get a 265 unity belt from finishing the campaign tho

So not a big loss

[sick sentinel]

way ahead of u on that one

didnt enchanted it

[dawn canyon]

Yoga getting weakaura when

Also fucking sigmachad venthyr fury

Dope

[green eagle]

How does shield block work with Halondrus Lance ability?

Does it fully block since it's a physical damage spell?

Or just some mitigation

[jagged pier]

block never fully stops damage

[green eagle]

I still want to prefer shield block uptime for lance vs ignore pain though, since it's physical though, right?

[jagged pier]

yes, only because its blockable

[strong forum]

you can block lance

[green eagle]

gotcha

tyty

[bright dock]

hey guys does anyone have a working automarker weakaura for tazavesh they could link me? mine works everywhere but taz.

[pliant narwhal]

hey ring 252 with vers haste or 265 with 250 mastery and 50 haste?

[strong forum]

tough call

how much haste on the 252

[wild rampart]

what do you guys think of necro vs fae on Dausegne?

[jagged pier]

necro

[strong forum]

NF lets you blink over rings, but necro is just busted

[jagged pier]

yer but your supposed to move to the first ring spawn

[pliant narwhal]

112 haste on the 252 ilvl one

[jagged pier]

and that means u dont need to blink ever

[strong forum]

265 then

those 62 haste aint gonna outvalue the ilvl

and 250 mastery is huge crit block potential, very good in keys

[pliant narwhal]

even with versa vs . mastery on other ring?

ty

[strong forum]

yes

mastery is by no means bad, just the least good because its rng mitigation

[wild rampart]

thanks dudes

[strong forum]

but i like having a small chunk of mastery cuz crit blocks are actually uber good in keys

which is also why necro is also so good, because of the 400 free mastery and ofc the 22%+ str

lots more critblocks

[mighty valley]

do you really need to see every random debuff on your target center screen like this

[chrome falcon]

that's the worst UI i've ever fucking seen holy shit

[sick sentinel]

havent looked into the setting that turns them off yet

[dawn canyon]

i like the overlapping quest log and dbm

[sick sentinel]

scaled everything up to be more visible

[urban portal]

yogi123

[sick sentinel]

it was cleaner, but it was like, tiny lol

[dawn canyon]

i mean

weakaura pack middle

frames next to it

done?

[sick sentinel]

it'll be under tukui options but im not terribly bothered by it

only LFR certain rooms it could get annoying

[dawn canyon]

i think the name shouldnt be a ful bar in the unit frames

and you need to cut down the debuff frame

on ur target

tot frame is good

[sick sentinel]

this is older profile for reference

main thing that changed is scale to make it to where you can read the text without squint

[dawn canyon]

what the fuck

friendly nameplates are kinda clogging the screen

what are those 4 squares down there

and dont tell me you're looking at ur shieldblock through the buffs over player frame

[sick sentinel]

i think its supposed to be shaman totems, i'm pretty sure it comes with tukui by defualt

when the meter hits the bottom, the buff is gone

[dawn canyon]

that has to be the wost area to put that

[sick sentinel]

hands legs shoulders lfr set 3/4 now

[trim bay]

Last boss on heroic when I'm taking debuff to the pillar I'm getting trucked after the debuff blows up the pillar. More ignore pain or should I have an external every time?

[urban portal]

shouldnt need externals on heroic

IP+SR should be good enough

[finite salmon]

Wanna see a bad UI? This guy legit plays in my guild and had this

[dawn canyon]

show

[dawn canyon]

pvp ui

doesnt count

[finite salmon]

He raids with us

[dawn canyon]

yo wait

thats revolol setup

for those bars for target/player

you know whats the worst about that tho

porky font damage

[finite salmon]

I didn't like the random sizes for bars

[dawn canyon]

ok just noticed the tab for guild n stuff

wtf

shift 8 keybounds

[finite salmon]

There is a priest in our guild who's UI I'll have to screenshot tonight

[dawn canyon]

i can get mine but its p average for pvp/pve

[finite salmon]

He has like all his abilities around his character frame in the mid left

In like a stair formation

With his character health in the middle of it

[dawn canyon]

...

ill get mine 2 secs

just to show even morons can have good one

or get roaster

either works

pvp

[sick sentinel]

i like how he plays on this small resolution and everythings huge, but sexy map is a must for this guy

[ruby locust]

How is condem for us ?

[dawn canyon]

pve

[dawn canyon]

its the one covenant that doesnt gain rage

AM being so good with tier makes that pretty underwhelming

[ruby locust]

Well that’s disappointing

[dawn canyon]

however you can prolly still rock it

and do fine

[finite salmon]

That looks fine.

[sick sentinel]

yeah if you want to go venthyr warrior go DPS

[dawn canyon]

ye its bog standard

[ruby locust]

I was more curious cause we’re starting dasasuage prog this week and was told to ether be venthyr or night fae since it’s still new

[sick sentinel]

we already struggle with rage if played improperly as it is

[ruby locust]

So I’ll go fae and call it fone

Done

[sick sentinel]

condemn makes that even worse

[dawn canyon]

i need more opinions on the pvp one tho since thats what i play in 90% of the time

[finite salmon]

I personally don't like how far away your HP bar is

[sick sentinel]

kyrian or nf, necro if u have 4 piece

[finite salmon]

I stayed necro for it and was fine

[ruby locust]

If ya think so

[finite salmon]

If you die to the rings its because of poor positioning anyway

[dawn canyon]

ye im used to the personal resource display thing so my hp is below my guy

[finite salmon]

The other stuff just gives you an out

I did go NF for Xymox though

[ocean yoke]

tbh for sausage youre good to just go through rings normally, just with the extra caution for the small booms

especially if you have a bunch of people using their various blinks youve got a good amount of space

[finite salmon]

I always turn that off but that's because I hate it. At the end of the day if the PvP ui works for you that's all that matters. Some people play complete base. I find for me it was mostly me changing my nameplates and nameplate auras that helped

[dawn canyon]

ye nameplate auras illprolly get

im using bigdebuffs/weakauras only rn

ty for the feedback

[finite salmon]

I like nameplateauras so my boomer ass can track CDs and important shit easier

[sick sentinel]

i could take 235 SR crit/haste boots to 291

[ruby locust]

Also do we have a pin for spell reflect lists

[lofty widget]

in the pins yeah

[lofty ocean]

Hello guys can u paste your focus macro for intevane

?

[eager lake]

#showtooltip intervene
/cast [@focus] intervene

[lofty ocean]

thanks

[woeful jolt]

what's the verdict on the sheild w/ the extra block for raiding?

[sick sentinel]

i thought the healer was the priest

[lofty widget]

better defensively, worse offensively @ equal ilvl

[sick sentinel]

and the priest i invited only did 2.3k dps, so when i said what i did it seemed like i was BM'ing them but it wasn't intentional

[woeful jolt]

thanks chimmi!

[cerulean wyvern]

#showtooltip
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/startattack
/cast [mod, @focus, nodead] Intervene;
/stopmacro;
/cast [@target, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring

[median tulip]

/cast [@mouseover, help, nodead, exists][@mouseovertarget, help, nodead, exists][@focus, help, nodead, exists][target=targettarget, help, nodead, exists][]Intervene

[sick sentinel]

is this the new intervene macro ultimate form?

[cerulean wyvern]

haha....I use the same action button for charge & intervene. Shift to intervene focus, or manually select an friendly to intervene target, or charge enemy then hamstring

[sick sentinel]

#showtooltip Charge
/cast [@mouseover,help,exists,nodead]Intervene;Intervene
/cast [@mouseover,harm,exists,nodead]Charge;Charge

thats the one in my macro book

[median tulip]

I use two separate buttons because I like being able to mouseover a hostile and intervening whichever player it's chasing

[sick sentinel]

i have that, and then i also have intervene vanilla bound to Z or Q

[median tulip]

Mine are on my mouse

[hasty heath]

[Intrusive Thoughtcage] this dogshit?

[sick sentinel]

i wouldnt mind that

[lofty widget]

yes

[eager lake]

how much damage do decent prot warrs do in keys right now ?

[mighty cairn]

10-14k prob

[median tulip]

12ish

[mighty cairn]

depending on key affixes dungeon and your dps

[lofty widget]

12-13 is good ish

[eager lake]

as kyrian ?

[lofty widget]

as necro

[median tulip]

Necro FTW

[eager lake]

oh well I got work to do then

i can barely do 8-9k as necro

[sick sentinel]

seismic?

or reprisal

[eager lake]

reprisal

[sick sentinel]

seismic bis

[lofty widget]

reprisal, necro, 4pc

seismic is low key only (low key being relative ofc)

[sick sentinel]

seismic on ardenweald dos

huge pull

[eager lake]

dont you run out of shield block

[sick sentinel]

dont need it

premade healer

[urban portal]

Run double defensive trinkets

Ez

[eager lake]

i have scale and old warrior soul

[sick sentinel]

i mean with this much rage gen cause of set

avatar being a dr

u can get enough shield block even without reprisal although im not saying seismic is in any way better

reprisal is still by far the best

seismic is just funny

[opal salmon]

so prot warrior... did the buff really improve their situation?

[sick sentinel]

what buff

[opal salmon]

the buff they got like 2 weeks ago

5% deal and ignore pain

[sick sentinel]

like 6% to everything

oh

[opal salmon]

yeah,i still dont think its enough but thats me. haven't played it for awhile

[lofty widget]

yep. we are very strong in the right hands, although the buffs were generally pretty minor

[sick sentinel]

nah prots cool rn

[sick sentinel]

this

[opal salmon]

but would you choose a prot warrior over any other tank?

[crude notch]

People have this ideal that if you’re not BDK you’re shit

[lofty widget]

any day of the week

[sick sentinel]

paladin*

[crude notch]

But in reality all tanks are feeling good right now.

[opal salmon]

interesting. idk i rolled a pally and bear and they are just a million times easier

[crude notch]

…

[sick sentinel]

yes they are easier

[opal salmon]

just prot made you work lol

[sick sentinel]

doesnt mean prot warr is bad

[opal salmon]

it doesnt but if its harder doesnt it mean its worse?

[crude notch]

No

[sick sentinel]

bear is prob the most boring shit ive ever played

[opal salmon]

yeah it is lol

[sick sentinel]

besides ranged in m+

[opal salmon]

thrash thrash thrash

[sick sentinel]

that shit is unbearable as well

[opal salmon]

and monk seems really good too, havent played with many and DH always just seem good

[crude notch]

Are you following the same metrics I am or?

[opal salmon]

idk i want to go back to prot warrior but dont feel like making my healers sweat again

[sick sentinel]

with 4p u wont

[crude notch]

Yes it’s almost like “all tanks are in a good spot” wasn’t a joke

If you are making your healer sweat that’s a your hands problem

[lofty widget]

just play what you enjoy, sticking to one spec and getting really good at it is muuuch better than constantly chasing the fotm

[opal salmon]

i use to hold 70% SB and had 3k+ healing with ignore pain. i think thats pretty good but compared to my pally i can just off heal the whole raid. dont need a heal at all

pally also holds 9k dps in a 15

[sick sentinel]

warr does 12k+

with 4p

[opal salmon]

really? thats crazy

[crude notch]

If you’re a pally doing 9k in a 15, I’m worried.

[opal salmon]

havent played with one so long

yah dawg i suck, whats your point?

[sick sentinel]

pally only doing 9k is dodgy as well they should be ahead in dps

[opal salmon]

i never see prot warriors anymore

none in dungeons

[sick sentinel]

yeah cause everyone has this idea

that they are bad

cause they are bottom of all tier lists

which doesnt make them bad

just nto as good as the rest

[crude notch]

People were also burnt out on warriors after BfA

[lofty widget]

we're not even the worst tank by a long shot

[opal salmon]

who is then

[sick sentinel]

but i would say prot warriors are among the better tanks

just low play rate

low sample size

[lofty widget]

id say bear/vdh is below prot atm

[opal salmon]

you're crazy

warcraft logs doesnt agree

[sick sentinel]

vdh isnt great

[crude notch]

Oh god

[opal salmon]

i mean prove me wrong then, and this is coming from a person that loved warrior tank cause it was so fun

[crude notch]

And this is coming from a person that writes and helps out with bear stuff regularly

Bear’s ST is trash.

Their tier set is boring AF

[sick sentinel]

so is vdhs unless something changed in the last 3 weeks

[opal salmon]

boring =/= not good

[sick sentinel]

havent seen them in a while

4p 270 ilvl vdh was pulling quite bad st

[opal salmon]

idk i played with a DH the other day and they still seemed good

[crude notch]

Yeah VDH ST is bad too

You’re actually not comprehending the point

[sick sentinel]

all tanks are good

[lofty widget]

yes, every tank is good

[sick sentinel]

all of them are viable

u will find all tanks in all levels of play be it raid/m+

[lofty widget]

your tank choice will only matter in rank 1 keys /HoF raiding (and even then i doubt it matters)

[opal salmon]

ya so is all dps but would you want a feral druid dpsing?

[vernal vale]

a feral who understands the class any day of the week

[crude notch]

Depends is the person the same person pulling 9k in a 15 on ppal?

[lofty widget]

much rather a feral who knows what he's doing than a fotm mage

[sick sentinel]

wtih 4p

[opal salmon]

really this is coming from a view point of making a pally/bear and having my healer friend (mid tier healer) say pally and bear are way easier

[sick sentinel]

overall

[opal salmon]

thats healing?

[sick sentinel]

ye

[opal salmon]

thats impressive

[lofty widget]

healing is pointless to look at btw

[vernal vale]

^

[sick sentinel]

just

pointing out

that prot warrior

[lofty widget]

if you want a decent metric look at EHRPS (external healing required per second)

[sick sentinel]

fair

[vernal vale]

Prot warrior normally has very low EHRPS

Because they mitigate well if you are playing correctly

[lofty widget]

sub 1.5k in my keys

[vernal vale]

Thats about where I'm at most often

[sick sentinel]

was just pointing out that prot warriors arent so healer hungry

cause people have that

[opal salmon]

yall wanna dm me some logs, im just curious to look at some

[sick sentinel]

opinion before they play prot

just go onto warcraft logs and find some

[lofty widget]

true and real

[crude notch]

What is the purpose of this addy

[sick sentinel]

which is why our playrate is low

[vernal vale]

Healers biggest problem when they heal warrior is they expect us to act like a DK

[sick sentinel]

ye

meanwhile prot warr is like

[opal salmon]

just look at how they are playing now. im curious

[sick sentinel]

-5000 -5000 -5000 + 15000 - 5000 - 5000 -5000

blood dk is like

-12415931875 [phone] -8912532 [phone]

[crude notch]

You can go on WCL and find out

[sick sentinel]

or rather used to be

blood dks nowadays dont even take damage

cause they oneshot the pack

[crude notch]

Well and have 80%+ uptime of 60% parry

And the str from their tier is uncapped

🙂

[lofty widget]

isnt it capped at 75 % or something

[opal salmon]

yeah BK seem stupid now

[ocean yoke]

it is at 75

[opal salmon]

but ya looking at one of the top logs for M+ warriors running about 8-9k and about 6k healing. That healing jumped a bit

[sand pebble]

Ip isnt healing its mitigation

[opal salmon]

ya which i think is misleading

[crude notch]

Oh yes I’m so sorry 75% increase to strength

Nice and balanced

[sand pebble]

Might as well add shield block refuction into healing

[opal salmon]

but i think is a decent indicator

[shell shale]

I do 10-14k dps as well based on the key as prot war

[lofty widget]

IP is padding the healing meters so you can shame your healer after the run

[ocean yoke]

just 75% main stat no biggie \

[crude notch]

Nbd

[sick sentinel]

not really

mitigation is even better than healing

u dont have to react to anything

u just press the button

and see ur absorb go away

u dont need to pay attention and react to damage

[crude notch]

lol “iT’s NoT uNcApPeD iT’s OnLy 75%!”

[sick sentinel]

ngl having a lot of fun with prot warr on frostmourne

kinda stopped with retail only coming online for raids

[crude notch]

What does frostmourne have to do with it lol

[opal salmon]

but good news spear still go brrr with fury

[sick sentinel]

nothing just stating that prot is fun in wotlk

[opal salmon]

i didnt play much in wotlk but i heard its really good

[sick sentinel]

same situation basically

prot warrior regarded as not good but its fairly good

[ocean yoke]

wohyers are unstoppable we can not be stopped

[sick sentinel]

upgrade to 7 streets and then find out what loot i get from weekly

never ran a streets key

[lyric geode]

Where can I find those?

[sand pebble]

streets is easy now with all the nerfs it has had

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmI_Ndrxy14

wrong game but right idea

[sick sentinel]

never ran it besides a few times for quests, i'll get someone run me through or watch YT video

[blazing saffron]

I have a buddy that’s been saying IP is a trap to spam in keys. Is that the case or is it just one of those you gotta hit revenge when it costs rage to keep threat and when you have excess you IP?

[urban portal]

Ip the excess away

[lyric geode]

Ignore pain spam while being capped is foolishness, unless, you know incoming damage is coming.

Also, I have been trying to keep banner longer, it isnt that useful.

[urban portal]

If you are gcd locked yes you burn the excess

To overcap up

Ip

To feed into anger management

[blazing saffron]

For sure. I’ve just been trying to understand the middle ground where it’s clearly not a trap when overflowing with rage and gcd locked. Sitting on rage just feels bad and I figured he was not really giving me the full idea he had of it

Thanks folks

[urban portal]

You always burn it

Feeding into 2 set and anger management is important

[blazing saffron]

That’s what I was thinking. Thanks @urban portal

[lyric geode]

Also, don't TC outburst

[sick sentinel]

IP when rage capping

is what i've been told

[blazing saffron]

Thank you 😊

[opal salmon]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BvmA8fW3LPxC4YwD#fight=20&type=healing This is the one i was looking at

[vernal vale]

Mythic raid earning portals is cool

[obtuse monolith]

Sounds great for going back and farming mogs that you won’t need to farm, because you already got them when you were clearing Mythic 🤪

[vernal vale]

More just useful to have teleports all over. I mean most of us will never clear the mythic ones.

[vernal rain]

just got my 4 PC! am i keeping ravager talent? or should i skill into ""into the fray"?

[urban portal]

ravager

[vernal rain]

ty

[ocean yoke]

youll be best off running ravager in keys and into the fray in raids

[vernal rain]

TY

[civic torrent]

wtf no - as big dog @chrome falcon put it, IP is a button that says "Reduces the CD of Avatar & SW by 3.5 seconds, gives 1 stack of seeing red, heals you for 3.5% of your max HP" - it's better off not even thinking about the shield cap

Ofc play aroudn your rage for SB Uptime - but IP is the main tool you use to keep the engine of Prot War running

What a take jfc

[sand pebble]

thats is the best description of ip i have ever heard

[jagged pier]

Not with 4 pc with 4 pc spam away

[urban portal]

2pc

[strong forum]

If you don't use IP as a rage dump and only use it when you won't IP cap, you're literally shooting yourself in the foot

[remote dawn]

whats the best 2 trinkets, only from M+ the scale and? for def.

[jagged pier]

aegis and fate

[remote dawn]

no raidtrinkets ^^ i am not raiding ❤️ scale and what ? xD

[jagged pier]

@patent osprey dont be suprised u were top damage on last boss of DoS we are one of the best execute specs in the game, this was our halondrus P3 damage laste night

👍

[jagged pier]

hc verison of aegis and fate are still the best pretty much and they are SoD so its pretty easy to pug

[blazing condor]

If its only from m+ and only for def its codex + scale. Granted you need all that def

[ionic fern]

And Mythic Anduin last phase.

😂

[jagged pier]

yer i havent got there yet

[civic torrent]

I have to play fury for raid now cos we recruited a bdk

I'm actually so sad

[jagged pier]

well u told them too

[civic torrent]

Yeah I know

You know that "In that moment he realised, he fucked up"

Literally me

Did you just prog halondrus with nerfs jakey

Or reclear

[jagged pier]

no we prog'd without the nerfs

[civic torrent]

Were you guys still skipping reclaim phases

[jagged pier]

second one yer

[civic torrent]

Just trying to temper expectations for tonight

Aight mint

[jagged pier]

well now u just skip everything

the boss just dies

[civic torrent]

It looks pretty simple now

I'm not that upset we missed the unnerfed version

We have some very unethical dps

[pliant narwhal]

since we can craft set items weekly, should i directly aim for unity in head, or start with waist as recommended? i only have helmet and hands set

[dark lark]

If you have the gold then craft both lol

Otherwise just wait a couple weeks until you have tier in the proper slots

In the meantime just do the ZM campaign for the free belt

Should take less than 2 hours

Pop on a movie and just blast it

[jagged pier]

i mean if your not going to get 285 tier pieces

u put unity on chest

[dark lark]

Doesn't chest and helm have the same stat budget at equal ilvls but helm has a socket?

[dawn canyon]

285 chest

u can get

[dark lark]

But Jakey is assuming Esna isn't getting 285 tier

[dawn canyon]

oh ye i didnt see that

[pliant narwhal]

yeah thats true, wont get a 285 chest

ty

[jagged pier]

yer but chest has worse stats

so if u arent going to get 285 chest

its better

[dark lark]

Oh the big mastery little haste?

[jagged pier]

to have helm tier piece because its haste vers

and chest will also then have big haste vers

[pliant narwhal]

is this only valid for raid or also mplus?

[jagged pier]

its only valid if u will never get 285 chest

if you going to get 285 chest and shoulders u go helm for unity

[tawdry dirge]

is there anywhere a info who benefits the most of PI? like ther eis from shammy totem

[strong forum]

Probably in the priest discord somewhere

[tawdry dirge]

merci

ill try it there

[mellow bridge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1baQypWt2RjCYvtRQ7T5fPXqK18FeZON9XtR-LRvSGXo/edit#gid=839827865

40s and 5min sims in there

[tawdry dirge]

Thank you verymuch

[mellow bridge]

would like to see bdk in there, would probably be top 5-6

[timber slate]

Wheelchair tank

[strong forum]

♿

[jagged pier]

♿

[pliant narwhal]

i noticed that sometimes i am pulling with just rightclicking an enemy on range (is this a necro thing; can i disable or avoid it)?

[jagged pier]

codex

[strong forum]

Codex will redirect its "reflect" dmg to the target you're targeting

So if you don't want to ninja pull, do not target mobs you don't want to engage with

[hard vessel]

This is a big problem if you are a tank which markers mobs for telling people in voice what to do

[blazing condor]

Can you cancelaura codex or smth?

Idk how it works if its a buff or not

[lofty widget]

probably could

[sick sentinel]

What's level of key I should be able to handle with 3/4lfr and 250ilvl

Like a +10 at most I'm guessing

[jagged pier]

15

[sick sentinel]

Well the key I'm gunna run later is a 7 streets, I'll have to watch YouTube vidpe of it or be carried guild or something

[dawn canyon]

Streets go left

[sick sentinel]

Dunno the route or mobs to be afraid of yet

[dawn canyon]

Go left

[sick sentinel]

3/4 weekend event and +2nw and +5sd under my belt already for gv

4 m+ keys prolly ideal

[dawn canyon]

Ez HC raid shield in Box

[timber slate]

Mythic weekly quest always gives me bad loot, its depressing

[sick sentinel]

dont call it box

its a vault

[thorny stone]

If blizzard keeps banner for next expansion im rerolling, do you guys are also developing carpal tunnel? 🤣

[jagged pier]

banner will not be the same

unless we have the same rage gen

which we wont

[dawn canyon]

Weekly box

Which also is why i was doing keys

[sick sentinel]

weekly box

[wild hemlock]

holy shit 4p is amazing

but i also felt the curse of being 1800 io and 267 ilvl. couldnt even get invited to 16s

[obtuse monolith]

Tried out 4p + banner for the first time and man that feels so good in execute range. Dumping infinite rage

[dawn canyon]

from the dungeon quest man

[hoary bone]

4p with banner much better than playing spear?

[jagged pier]

2pc and yes

[wild hemlock]

i want to get nexro lvled up this weekend. only 40 renown 😦

have like half the campagin quest to do

[dawn canyon]

zm campaign is shotgun renown

[wild hemlock]

yeah i have it like half done

prolly do that then head to torghast or something

[obtuse monolith]

I don’t know w keys but I really enjoy the extend banner minigame during raid. Spear’s just fire and forget

Curious about WCL stats on rage gen. Probably a pile more rage running NL vs Kyr. Feels good anyway

[lofty widget]

banner generates as much rage in 10 seconds as spear does in 40, assuming you have good uptime on banner ofc

[jagged pier]

banner is far more

[median tulip]

Kyrian's advantage is that spike of threat generation it can put out. Necro does more damage overall, but less in one burst at the start of the fight

[icy yarrow]

the situation dont even get better at 2k7, they only see <warrior>

[pliant narwhal]

haha so true....class balance when?

[blazing condor]

It got better for me at 3k

[sacred timber]

the situation don't get better at 2850 either.... even with timed +21s

Still regularly get denied to +16s.

[vernal vale]

My barely 2.6k rating barely seems to get me into 15s when I'm just after vault. It's so sad how obsessed people are with only grabbing the "best"

[wild hemlock]

literally spent an hour queing last night for 15s 16s lmaooo

only groups id get invted into had a 250 ilvl dps with 2 set

[sacred timber]

+15 NW, need kyrian bdk, must have 3100 io, ilvl 278, CE, KSM S1, S2, S3 on at least 5/6 tanks (6/6 pref). 95% parse on Mythic Halondrus, and must have finished last tier of every torghast wing solo. (3000 io will be considered).

[civic burrow]

So I'm dumb how often should I be using intervine I can't seem to get the most outta my kit there's no many abilitys

[sacred timber]

off cd

[civic burrow]

So*

Really that ofteb

[sacred timber]

free rage (in the form of a free shield block, and free revenge) (saves like 50 rage)

and generates 20 rage

[civic burrow]

Seems like a pain to click off an add every time just to hit any macros u recommend?

[blazing condor]

If you use reprisal legendary you use it pretty much on CD

[sacred timber]

/cast [target=mouseover,help,exists,nodead]Intervene;Intervene
/cast [target=target,harm,exists,nodead]Charge;Charge```

Mouse over intervene, targeted charge.

[civic burrow]

Sweet that's huge thanks

So I've been looking at guides I kno they say 30% haste but then it doesn't give a clear answer for any other stat I kno mastery is supposed to be low but it's my highest stat cuz im used to playing fury could that be a reason I feel like I'm struggling?

[elder cosmos]

Not really. Prot doesn’t REALLY care about a specific stat other than haste. The goal is really the most amount of stats possible.

[lofty widget]

ilvl>>>haste (to 40 % UNBUFFED)>>vers>=crit>mastery

[civic burrow]

I appreciate u guys taking time for a rookie ty

[elder cosmos]

The thing about prot warrior that seems so different than other tanks is you NEED to be using your big cooldowns as often as possible (unless you’re saving it for a specific mechanic or a particularly nasty pack) - you need to be thinking about “value”. All the time - getting the most value out of everything. Keep shield block up and just rip through IP’s. Don’t even worry about capping the shield. Just rip through that rage. You’ll get more avatars, more shield walls, more revenge etc. it’s just this big machine you need to be feeding.

[blazing condor]

All of our stats are very close to eachother so lacking haste wouldnt be the decider (unless you have like <15%)

[tropic linden]

I only want a macro that says (If i can use shield slam, use, if not, revenge) and spam it all day long

But i can't macro spells that are on GCD 😦

[elder cosmos]

Eh. Kinda hard to build something like that functions correctly.

[tropic linden]

But u can make this macro
/cast Ignore Pain
/cast Revenge

Best macro, u always IP if u have rage and if below 35 rage u revenge

[jagged pier]

no

[tropic linden]

All prots must use if u know what ur doing

[jagged pier]

u do not macro them together

[tropic linden]

Plz jakey, put on pins

[lofty widget]

thats not a good idea

[deft hinge]

macro ur mouse or keyboard works ☺️

[elder cosmos]

Really don’t like the idea of binding ip and revenge together. Going to fuck up your rage management

[tropic linden]

Yeah, that was a joke haha

But u could

[elder cosmos]

Y’all ever think about how with the 4 set that IP buff we got now looks more like a nerf lol

Capping rage feels like shit

[blazing condor]

Just dont cap it

[elder cosmos]

😂

[lofty widget]

can still avoid overcapping

[blazing condor]

gotta use your mind calculator

[tropic linden]

This count as automation if i do a macro with the razer software that does this?

[lofty widget]

except with LS+rav etc, then it becomes a challenge

[tropic linden]

And banable?

[median tulip]

For intervene, what I do is to set the highest pumping melee DPS as my Focus target, and have a macro that intervenes on my focus.

[timber slate]

Intervene on healer who is 40 yards away

[blazing condor]

Then continue running out the dungeon

[elder cosmos]

lol

[timber slate]

XD

[civic burrow]

So probably one more dumb question I kno teir sets abilities swap when change spec but would collecting a tank set matter or would the stats stay the same and be pointless to do

[blazing condor]

It doesnt matter really

[obtuse monolith]

I know the IP+Revenge macro was a joke but what about a SB/IP macro? SB the first spell so it'd spend the 30 rage first if it's not on CD and then add the 40 for IP if it's either on CD or rage leftover? Because neither on GCD

[blazing condor]

I mean you CAN min/max your stats and all if you want and it’d be better, but its so marginally better that you dont need to really care about it

Especially if youre not doing top tier content where something like that could actually matter

[jagged pier]

no

[obtuse monolith]

NM that'd just rage-starve for dps abilities

[blazing condor]

Dont macro stuff together

Just play

[obtuse monolith]

But too many buttons zug zug

[jagged pier]

theres not

[blazing condor]

I think i have like 28 buttons bound in total

[ionic fern]

Just be a clicker.

[jagged pier]

[ionic fern]

I got 27

Unless you count the normal numbers.

[jagged pier]

devastate bound

[ionic fern]

26

[ionic fern]

Don't ask.

[urban portal]

Wtf ravage on +?

[ionic fern]

I'm too lazy.

[blazing condor]

Oh yeah wait i got 2 more

30!

[ionic fern]

It's like...8 on my Naga.

[obtuse monolith]

Yeah it's really not bad for the ones I actually use. but then i log onto a DH and it's like...

[blazing condor]

Naga was dope when i had it

[urban portal]

Ok naga is op

[blazing condor]

Fucked my thumb up tho

[potent dirge]

Shattering throw not bound?

[ionic fern]

Ofc not.

[blazing condor]

Weird

Alt + D for me

[ionic fern]

I'm 100% too lazy to use it.

Half the time i don't even remember it.

[blazing condor]

Hakkar loves him

[sick sentinel]

it does like triple vs shields or something

[ionic fern]

OH SHIT?!

REALLY?!?!?!

[sick sentinel]

good for hakkar

[blazing condor]

damn mwahi

[potent dirge]

Deals a fat chunk of damoooge on shields

[blazing condor]

Its on sight with yogi

[ionic fern]

[urban portal]

Use it to pre pull mobs

[tropic linden]

Can i get a ban for macroing ShieldSlam+Ravage with outside programs?

[thorny stone]

when my rl calls shatterin throw on halondrus's shield, i wont use it