Ring and faulty both
#protection
chrome falcon
we want ring too tbf stats are good
ruby locust
Fcm is a bis for us too right ? I hope not cause I’ve not ran a single vault this week oops
chrome falcon
yeah it is
thick charm
wat nero build for M+?
sand drum
obtuse monolith
Booming for M+? Should that be BSC?
thick charm
should for booming or Best ser?
scenic mural
booming pulls ahead sometimes and can help if your struggling to keep banner up. also CT is vomit
thick charm
oh ok thanks
ocean yoke
necrolord is like a drug i cant quit it
toxic pewter
booming pulls ahead sometimes and can help if your struggling to keep banner up....
Is Bounding stride the go-to over CT these days?
mighty valley
that's the lowest impact row but yeah
speed on jump is nice, CT range is relevant almost never
toxic pewter
yeah the 4 extra yards doesnt seem like much... but I guess it does help to grab aggro on many mobs
hmmm
hollow bolt
i thought with necor build we use heavy repercutions
mighty valley
no, absolutely not
toxic pewter
why tho, we want more avatars
toxic pewter
We have had this conversation before and heavy Repurcussions may be the safer bet if you are depending on shield block uptime
mighty valley
yeah absolutely
hollow bolt
alright thanks big brains!
toxic pewter
do you guys play with avatar macro'd with other abilities or anything or mostly just press it on its own
ocean yoke
on its own
vernal vale
do you guys play with avatar macro'd with other abilities or anything or mostly ...
Macroing abilities together can use them when you would rather not.
toxic pewter
yes true I also do everything seperate
lilac bloom
ionic fern
Booming Voice / Bounding Stride
Well, Bounding Stride is more of a "choice". Crackling Thunder also works.
jagged pier
Just get it C:
untold saddle
I dropped the swarm trinket from the tw chest, is it any good for prot? I havent tested it yet
untold saddle
Guess no block, right?
jagged pier
no just raid trinkets are all bad
untold saddle
Got it
mighty hazel
How much haste should i try to get, before prioritising other secondary stats?
jagged pier
40% unbuffed
mighty hazel
And then i should go for versatility right?
jagged pier
whatever u want
mighty hazel
And i havent played prot warr since WoD. Why is Mastery so bad now (is what im hearing it is)?
strong forum
It's not bad-bad
It's just the least good
Cuz it's rng mitigation, and for dmg other stats are better
sweet summit
it's not the best dps stat and is inconsistent compared to vers defensively
also only affects blockable attacks
mighty hazel
so overall will versa be better as secondt prio, because of the overall damage metigation and damage increase?
blazing condor
haste whatever
mighty hazel
crit?
mighty hazel
isnt it just offensiv?
sweet summit
gives parry too
mighty hazel
ohh
sweet summit
but parry also suffers from the same inconsistency issues as crit block
blazing condor
seismic crit build for those free revenj
ionic fern
haste>vers is the universal two for us
This is why you ain't top 10 anymore.
Filthy vers.
blazing condor
D:
sweet summit
mighty hazel
uff
jagged pier
This is why you ain't top 10 anymore.
but im top 10 and im haste vers 👀
ionic fern
but im top 10 and im haste vers 👀
Top 10 realm doesn't couynt.
sweet summit
ionic fern
Can't prove it.
blazing condor
im also top 10 😎
ionic fern
Hide your logs.
blazing condor
top 9 pwarr on tarren mill
ionic fern
😂
jagged pier
ionic fern
If i went Alliance on a really horde heavy realm i bet i would be top 10 Alliance on that realm.
ionic fern
But i could be a dwarf.
mighty hazel
okay. Mega noob pwarr questing. On Halondrus walk phase. What do you do to take the least amount of damage from Lance? i can only come up with using Ignore pain, but still havning truble surviving sometimes. Is it me that is retardet or are my guild healers not up to the task?
sweet summit
is it blockable? 
mighty hazel
i dont think so
sweet summit
it is
jagged pier
lance is blockable
mighty hazel
it is categorices as ranges basic attack
sweet summit
just block
mighty hazel
IT IS?!
sweet summit
you can block ranged attacks
mighty hazel
MY GOD IM STUPIT
sweet summit
great to know about all of this
mighty hazel
That is a great website. Thanks!
sweet summit
blazing condor
dragen
ionic fern
Well yes.
jagged pier
literally expecting nothing i will like
ionic fern
But some more interesting expectations?
jagged pier
i just want to be able to raid log
blazing condor
the chroma dragon dude as main villain
jagged pier
not have to do 8 m+s a week
blazing condor
but in terms of actual expac i have no expectations
blazing condor
expectations just leads to disappointment
untold saddle
I hope they expand on classes/subclasses kind of thing
ionic fern
I like the Vault system in general..but i also don't want to get gimped for being lazy some weeks and not doing 8 dungeons.
ionic fern
I hope they expand on classes/subclasses kind of thing
I hope they DON'T bring in a new class..
It's a balancing nightmare as it is.
😂
blazing condor
i feel like they have to bring in a new something
ionic fern
Just add..specs for existing classes. Or some flavour.
untold saddle
Honestly at this point idc but mostly was talking about expanding on class fantasy we already have
mental scarab
Mega tonk
dawn canyon
I wanna see new shit in Talent tree
mental scarab
Well that aint a bad idé
ionic fern
I like the idea of being able to choose abilities like Covenants currently..at least as they are now for Prot Warrior, 3 out of 4 are OK.
I think i read somewhere that there MIGHT be something similar in the new expansion.
Balance them from the get-go, make them unique and it'll be great.
strong forum
Only thing we're gonna see today is the typical "new level cap, new continent, new allied races, and maybe a foreshadowing of a potential villain who will get replaced by 10.2 with a new villain for 10.3"
strong forum
LOOOOL
ionic fern
IMAGINE
strong forum
That's big time copium
ionic fern
Ya. 😦
strong forum
Are we all ready for the new and engaging warfronts 2.0
ionic fern
Are we all ready for the new and engaging warfronts 2.0
Please no.
untold saddle
Guys as a noob war tank, in a pug environment how you big pull?
Like compared to other tanks were mobs seems glued to me, as a war i honestly struggle to grouping mobs without risking aggro loss
dawn canyon
Tell them to give you a while to gather
If the dh hunts into the pack first global and dies to aggro it's their fault
untold saddle
Do i even revenge or just tc?
jagged pier
u hardly tc
dawn canyon
Not bfa tc anymore 
jagged pier
no u need to aim it properly
untold saddle
Its more about the distance than the angle, just need to get used to it i guess
strong forum
Revenge does like 50% more dmg than TC
And the distance of revenge is pretty good aswell, it's just very poorly displayed
Very feelycraft to get used to it
jagged pier
cinder dirge
Guys as a noob war tank, in a pug environment how you big pull?
Like compared t...
I personally do :
Banner
Ravager
Charge
Avatar (Getting outburst proc)
Thunderclap (Outburst) / Shieldblock
Shield slam / IP
Revenge
Every other outburst bonus has to be use on shield slam. Zero aggro problem
But ye there's no choice but using the outburst proc on TC whenever you pull cus aggro as necrolord is so bad
strong forum
Idk bout that one chief
trail brook
I only necro on tiranic ToP
cinder dirge
even with a misdirect
There's literally no world where you can hold aggro by taking your time using the 1st outburst for a shield slam for rage generation.
the gcd you spend doin that is gonna get a dps killed because he's bursting too hard
strong forum
You're gonna get more threat by dealing more dmg through using more revenges from empowered SS over TC
jagged pier
i duuno chief using outburst on TC is kinda pepga
strong forum
He's a dumb dps if he's bursting first global.
You're gonna spend 3 globals with using SS - rev - rev
And it's more dmg than TC - SS - rev
jagged pier
i literally wait 3 globals at the start of halondrus so i dont over aggro
dps can do the same
if they refuse let them die
they dumb
strong forum
If a dps opens instantly, other than rogue or hunter, they're just wrong
No tank can hold that
Not a single one
trail brook
If a dps opens instantly, other than rogue or hunter, they're just wrong
Indeed
trail brook
Outburst on Tc doesnt buff slow right?
cinder dirge
It does
strong forum
While I agree that it's the absolutely only scenario where its borderline possible to use outburst on TC, its only good for a 1 global scenario, but over 3 globals its not anymore
dawn canyon
The damage of the empowered TC is always worse than the 2 extra revenges worth of rage the shieldslam gives
So if you can get them off
jagged pier
well not that just the rage gain is just less
so less outbursts in the future
and less banner uptime
cinder dirge
and TC doesn't deal 6k, it ldeals 10k dmg to all mob around you (not only in front compare to revenge) reduce to more than 5 target. and it can crit to 17k sometimes
dawn canyon
Ss better
strong forum
If outburst TC does 10k,then revenge should hit for 6k+
trail brook
Do you play necro on m+?
cinder dirge
ye
strong forum
You should
cinder dirge
But main weakness is aggro
strong forum
It's better dmg and surv with tier
trail brook
How much overall can u deal with necro vs kyrian?
cinder dirge
And that's literally the only way i found to hold those mad fuckers being around 50 to 80k on pulls. Especially fury warriors
strong forum
Necro should average 11-13k, more with higher ilvl
strong forum
Dunno bout kyrian
strong forum
Ya I figured
trail brook
Okay ty, ill try necro a bit more
cinder dirge
Cause the goal is to generate aggro as fast as possible knowing you got an IP + 10% DR from avatar + Shield block from reprisal for free
it's not to spend it on IP as fast as possible on pull, you don't needi t
What you need is to keep mobs on you since the spear of bastion isn't here to keep you safe from not losing it anymore
cinder dirge
Once the burst aggro is safe with TC yes
but the outburst TC is necessary to secure it in the first place
lofty widget
it's 1 global, im sure the dps can wait
strong forum
Breh, aggro isn't established in 1 gcd from dps players either
dawn canyon
Their fault
jagged pier
yer but your using an example where u can literally fix the issue by intervening the 'fury warrior' in those 6 seconds u will get aggro
sweet summit
you also have intervene and aoe taunt of they ook early
strong forum
Especially fury warriors should know that their dmg is frontloaded af
That's not your thing to play around
It's theirs
cinder dirge
intervene works for 1 hit tho
dawn canyon
Ye they need 2 globals so if they have a deathwish they can kill themselves on demand
jagged pier
what no?
cinder dirge
no?
cinder dirge
Dayum dude
jagged pier
wtf u talking about
strong forum
Loool
jagged pier
👀
cinder dirge
Last xpac i played was wotlk 🙂
dawn canyon
It lasts full 6 unless you go out of it's range
woven lance
Can you block while channeling fleshcraft?
lofty widget
ye
trail brook
If u go out of range and then back again is It gone?
lofty widget
block/parry/dodge etc
dawn canyon
If u go out of range and then back again is It gone?
Not sure on this actually
jagged pier
If u go out of range and then back again is It gone?
yes
trail brook
Ty
cinder dirge
😦
sweet summit
🧓
jagged pier
👴
dawn canyon
How's this prot variant compared to wrath
cinder dirge
prot in wrath was dog
jagged pier
it was great
if played correctly
but u cant compare games
they are completely different
cinder dirge
Prot pal was so strong i felt like shit
i didn't dream that sh*t
i rly thought it was still like that
I think there was a glyph aswell for intervene but can't remember whati t does
strong forum
I don't remember shit from wrath
All I remember is pressing chainheal and nature's swiftness
And me starting my lifelong hate for fury cuz titans grip
strong forum
Truu
jagged pier
where linked the fact that you've done the achievement wasnt enough anymore
u needed the gearscore as well
strong forum
The start of the downfall of credibility
jagged pier
sweet summit
frankly
strong forum
Nowadays you need to link a PhD to sign up for a weekly key
Not that I link anything besides "huge pp"
But still
jagged pier
i actually got ask what my set was for a 15 yesterday
even tho i was doing 15s week 1
without any
strong forum
When I invite dps I legit just go for "who looks fun"
blazing condor
I am against metaslaving but my comps are usually just hunter, warlock, priest
Not my fault they pump
ionic fern
I lowkey have not seen a warlock..and only had 1 hunter/priest.
strong forum
Healer I just invite the first one that isn't 240 ilvl
blazing condor
Yeah healers idrc
But locks and hunts do like 18k overall which is better than frost mages and boomies who do 9k
sweet summit
baseg
blazing condor
Preach
violet sinew
its funny... people go on about how nice the FFXIV community is.... whats missing from their community..... shit like R IO
jagged pier
^^
strong forum
You'll get reported and banned in that game for flaming
Soooo
They'll instead send you deaththreats cuz you skipped cutscenes
blazing condor
Only people who complain about logs or rio are those who shouldnt be doing that content anyway
strong forum
Not toxic at all
sweet summit
i'm nice ||most of the time at least||
sweet summit
real
jagged pier
i still remeber the guy that said he ||wished i got aids because he didnt list his key correctly and it was a key i didnt want to do||
blazing condor
strong forum
Get Freddy mercury'd kiddo
blazing condor
Wasted wish tbh wow-players don’t have contact with other beings irl
blazing condor
Shouldve wished for blood clots or smth instead
strong forum
It's just missing a comma
sweet summit
oh
strong forum
Wasted wish tbh, wow players...... And so on
tame jasper
Since my cancer therapy those things are things I don‘t wish anyone. Death can be a better/less pain option
blazing condor
Sorry phone typing i cba
cancer sucks
Stay strong
At least cancer treatments are getting improved more or less. With immune-therapy and less invasive stuff than chemo
Not as bad side effects. Still p bad though
tame jasper
At least cancer treatments are getting improved more or less. With immune-therap...
I had all of this (3 times). And chemo is prestep for things like core cell transplants (an immune-theraphy) 🤷♂️. But well. Lets tak about more fun things: pwarr 😂
blazing condor
Pwarr in game and irl. True warrior stronge
sweet summit
jagged pier
new raid affixs look kinda fun tbh
do right get a power boost
do it wrong
u gone get goofed
tame jasper
Disturbed‘s songs „Warrior“ and „Indestructible“ were two songs which helped me through that time 😂
blazing condor
Theyre good songs
hollow dove
If one has 5 set (all at 278) whats the best slot for unity?
jagged pier
u also need a 278 belt as well for that
hollow dove
i got 272 belt
blazing condor
I still need to get revered with enlightened fellas
sweet summit
i think helm is better regardless
jagged pier
yer can u will change them to tier
strong forum
Yes cuz the stat increase from Helm 278-291 is bigger than using 285 gloves and 291 somewhere else
And I didn't even think about turning ryg hands into tier
tame jasper
As boots are reprisal
strong forum
That's genius
sweet summit
jailer(?) legs too
jagged pier
well thats what u will do with all the off pieces from the last 3
strong forum
Big brain
jagged pier
cause they drop at 285
jagged pier
ye
tame jasper
helm literally only tier slot not able to be 285
Damn yeah, forgot about legs
hard vessel
He has no idea
sweet summit
🤡
blazing condor
What key?
hard vessel
Just apply as pink Paper tank too and die multiple times
uncut notch
Tanked blightbone in NW20 from 80% to 15% with no healer before all dps died
primal cape
dos20, only one im missing
ionic fern
Tanked blightbone in NW20 from 80% to 15% with no healer before all dps died
Tbh that does like no damage.
sweet summit
blightbone is cheating
jagged pier
blightbone does fuck all
primal cape
and as im an ally boy, theres not so much keys atm
uncut notch
yeah ik hahaha
blazing condor
Spell reflect works on all bosses to elminiate hella damage
uncut notch
But its not the point
tame jasper
Tabked pf last 3% on 22 and Streets 22 mensgerie last 7% alone 😂
And PF 22, 3rd boss from 85% to zero without healer (and no offhealer-dps)
uncut notch
VR cheese?
tame jasper
Aye 🙂
jagged pier
victory rush
sweet summit
prot good
uncut notch
ah yeah
blazing condor
Like good ol last boss of UR
hard vessel
It's a shame that people still think we are bottom tier
blazing condor
VR was banging
uncut notch
It's a shame that people still think we are bottom tier
The power of dratnos
blazing condor
Idk i feel like. If you see a pwarr with 3k rating apply for a 17. You should assume he’s good enough
uncut notch
It's a shame that people still think we are bottom tier
I do however think its more like, people not really understanding. PWAR is fine for everything except the most MDI level shit
Lewis hamilton can still set ripping lap times in a civic
blazing condor
Then again almost all pwarrs are shit lol
uncut notch
Doesnt mean it will win f1 championships etc
tame jasper
Idk i feel like. If you see a pwarr with 3k rating apply for a 17. You should as...
And u get declined in more than 70% anyway
sweet summit
pwar is/was played in top/mists in mdi
hard vessel
Pwar can pull bigger in mdi as prot pally
sweet summit
now it's just dks tho
blazing condor
Every time my friend do keys without me with a pwarr i just get horror stories
sweet summit
unluggy
blazing condor
And bad logs
uncut notch
Every time my friend do keys without me with a pwarr i just get horror stories
+1
PWAR is easy to play and hard to master
sweet summit
"your friend"
hard vessel
The power of dratnos
And this dude has no idea of anything
ocean reef
Erga being bullied by Todu
tame jasper
now it's just dks tho
Many ppl only see mdi/rwf and think all other classes/speccs are gsrbage #shitonmets
ocean reef
And now he goes here to be toxic..
ocean reef
Thats not how it works
strong forum
ocean reef
sweet summit
why not
uncut notch
Also demo lock is fucking cracked - had a guy in my 20 yesterday, 3k rated, no tier, 20k overall
30k spikes on bosses under hero
blazing condor
"your friend"
sweet summit
ya locks are not op
vocal geode
It's a shame that people still think we are bottom tier
trash tier not really
but there's a reason people choose other tanks for cutting edge keys
vocal geode
ionic fern
Prot 1 key behind the highest key done
People "SHIT TANK WORST CAN'T DO CRAP" while barely timing 15's.
vocal geode
tanked a 20 and 21 the other day as prot, wasnt that horrible
but other tanks defo feel better
ionic fern
Not targeted specifically at you Lors, just the majority of people. 😂
oblique garnet
Prot is cracked
jagged pier
no u
jagged pier
lime urchin
Where baer in top 10?!
ionic fern
Bear is like..41'st i think
lime urchin
Probably busy doing mage tower
lime urchin
I only did it dis week
strong forum
🅱️ for 🅱️ear
dawn canyon
🇵 for 🇵war
ionic fern
Confused.
jagged pier
🤔
ionic fern
Exactly.
jagged pier
why confuse
ionic fern
I just wanted to type something to start a conversation.
jagged pier
hmm
jagged pier
tropic linden
Was watching jakey's jailer gauntlet video, isn't fury better in it?
oblique garnet
What gauntlet
jagged pier
i dunno i did it as prot pretty easy
tropic linden
What gauntlet
jailer
oblique garnet
Whats that
tropic linden
Whats that
The new thorghast thing
oblique garnet
Oh
jovial zodiac
I bet warrior t11 set in dragonfl7ght will be a recolor of hunter t2 set. #dragonwarrior
jagged pier
jailer gauntlet actually kinda fun
ebon geyser
People still do Torghast?
U mean choreghast I hope not
jagged pier
gives u all the resources and stuff
blazing condor
jagged pier
i mean its like a boss rush think
i think its better than standard torghast
and its only supposed to be done once
ebon geyser
Save 3k crap from zm zone, buy the thing when honored. Free 291 after collecting 2k zm currency
strong forum
I bet warrior t11 set in dragonfl7ght will be a recolor of hunter t2 set. #drago...
Pls don't
jovial zodiac
Ypu know its coming :)
tropic linden
watching the video and wondering when Jakey gonna star WW
Half the video in and 0 WW yet SMH
vocal geode
People still do Torghast?
only reward after l4 is just meta "tower ranger"
I did it on my monk because monk got busted powers in torghast
havent been back since I got meta
L8 gauntlet
vocal geode
wrist wraps is just when enemy dies it deals % of max health to enemies around
surprised it did that much dmg
ebon geyser
I don't know how ppl can do torghast. More power to you if u like it
vocal geode
I only did it for achievement and mount
jagged pier
guanlet isnt torghast imo
vocal geode
meta just gives you "name, Tower Ranger"
ebon geyser
Not even those incentives made me go for it
jagged pier
gunalet is what torghast could have been
ebon geyser
Now that I can get the mats with no effort I'm liking it
vocal geode
only way I managed was because I got bonedust and vivify at start
it is really easy now
I just soloed all the flawless ones too
almost too easy
tame jasper
I tried gauntlet with a frost dk at the weekend, but we failed at level 8
jagged pier
but was rough first week
u couldnt get past layer 7, on week 1 as prot, the furthest i got was room 2 on layer 7
then i went in an 1 shot it and layer 8 on like 3rd go on the weekend
vocal geode
never tried as prot
jagged pier
it was really hard
jagged pier
monk has a lot better powers
tropic linden
Disc Priest has some rlly OP powers too
solemn pasture
So I have this warrior alt that I wanna go back to playing. Last I played was season 1 and pushed most keys to 20. I'm really bad at using reprisal though
I was considering playing the thunderclap demo shout cdr since we now run anger management
How bad will that impact my survivability? I know reprisal is really strong
median tulip
It's less damage, less rage and less survivability
solemn pasture
I'm just aiming for 25s
solemn pasture
Wondering if I'll be a crutch. Because whenever I look at logs
jagged pier
hasnt for the entire exapnsion
the TC leggo was rubbish at launch
still is now
if your doing 25s u need to get used to reprisal
its as simple as that
solemn pasture
AM with thunderclap cdr
dawn canyon
dont use clap talent
solemn pasture
Instead of ravage
jagged pier
no
solemn pasture
Interesting you just revenge
jagged pier
UF has been useless since pre patch
solemn pasture
?
median tulip
The only reason the TC leggo exists is so that Blizz can point to it and say "see, we didn't completely eviscerate the BfA playstyle with 9.0"; it's not actually a playable leggo
solemn pasture
Got it
That's what I was trying to recreate
Reprisal sucks the fun out of the class
median tulip
Don't. The BfA TClap spam is dead, get over it
jagged pier
no reprisal fixes the issue with the base class
solemn pasture
Oh that was never the question. Reprisal is so much better
robust rover
Btw, yesterday there was a discucsion about TC vs Bounding. I switched to Bounding last night and it was worlds better. ❤️ to that discussion yesterday.
hardy ridge
in m+?
robust rover
Yeh
woven lance
Can someone help me with this? I'm having trouble in m+ when I want to leap away and charge back really fast for reprisal, what I do is I click behind me for leap, but then that faces me away from all the mobs and sometimes by the time I turn around to face them and charge, the mobs are already within minimum range of charge. Wat do?
hardy ridge
what was the conclusion of that convo? I would tend to think CT is better in m+
strong forum
what was the conclusion of that convo? I would tend to think CT is better in m+
Personal preference
Neither have any real impact on anything
median tulip
You could run Menace and the impact on your gameplay would be minimal
strong forum
^
hardy ridge
Can someone help me with this? I'm having trouble in m+ when I want to leap away...
If this is an issue for you, you're probably keyboard turning. Hold your right mouse button to face your target again or even both mouse buttons to walk a step in that direction while spamming charge.
strong forum
I pref bounding cuz im used to the 30sec CD and movementspeed
jagged pier
not moving fast after leap is ass
woven lance
If this is an issue for you, you're probably keyboard turning. Hold your right m...
No, I'm mouse turning
median tulip
Turn your mouse sensitivity up?
hardy ridge
facing your target should pretty much be instant
strong forum
That sounds like a really weird issue
dawn canyon
Mouse turning is so fast :)
strong forum
Like, just turn faster and/or leap further away
dawn canyon
Max range leap
Leftclick move camera so u see ur guy from front
Aim
Rightclick turn
Charj
deft hinge
Can someone help me with this? I'm having trouble in m+ when I want to leap away...
its so uncool when intervene can charge all directions, but charge cant. shouldnt be that way in my opinion
dawn canyon
Charging backwards doesnt make sense
deft hinge
but intervene does?
dawn canyon
Nop
deft hinge
nope
strong forum
Kinda true tbh
It would be so fucking easy if charge didn't have min range aswell
War is the only class in the game that still has min range spells
strong forum
Yeah
War was ultra counter to hunter
But then with cataclysm everything changed
Every match vs hunter was a free win as warri, so good
Albeit unfair but ah well
strong forum
Melee hunter shouldn't have ever returned
jagged pier
survival isnt melee
strong forum
Classic andys have cried for that when it was always a dogshit thing
jagged pier
they can be 50 yards away
strong forum
Only with a CD
jagged pier
and los
jagged pier
kill pet
jagged pier
they cant do anything
dawn canyon
im winning cuz they dont respec fury dam
strong forum
They also deal 0 dmg and can't heal when pet is ded
jagged pier
same with bm kill pet
they cant do anything
and forces turtle
same with disc and only stopping shadow mend
they just lose
sacred timber
Outhealed a shaman in a +20 last night as prot warrior XD
strong forum
Ya with 4pc warriors will start to "outheal" healers
Outside of grievous, bursting and explosive ofc
Also doable with 2pc but not as easily
dawn canyon
bdk hps 
bdk dam taken
sacred timber
I still don't get enough dmg out, but I timed a +21 as well ;-;
8.7k in a +21, but 5.7k overall healing
jade tartan
is shieldslam oneshotting nerfed?
dawn canyon
it wont connect
strong forum
8.7k in a +21, but 5.7k overall healing
Ya that's pretty low
Gotta get those numbers up
trail brook
what do u run as necro, heirmir? banner cond and 3 endurance?
oblique garnet
Kevin
trail brook
marileth?
trail brook
3 potency?
trail brook
So heirmir
oblique garnet
play gemstone
What is gemstone
strong forum
(they're pretty interchangeable)
trail brook
Okay
strong forum
But marge is more popular
sweet summit
oblique garnet
Ah
sweet summit
it owns
trail brook
adaptive armor fragment over tc thing right?
strong forum
Yea
dawn canyon
fdk loves this so i assume fat for prot too
oblique garnet
Marileth owns
wild hemlock
i get terrible flashbacks of having to cancel gemstone on my ele before they fixed it
cancel the gemstone buff to game it
chrome falcon
whining about countermeasure in this vault group
hunter says "well you picked warrior, you chose to be weak"
like damn bro i'm just whining about bad RNG
where did that come from
lime urchin
Oof
vernal vale
hunter says "well you picked warrior, you chose to be weak"
Wow, some people are just angry at the world
chrome falcon
i've done votw more this week than i did in legion
dawn canyon
C:
vernal vale
i've done votw more this week than i did in legion
I don't think I did it more but I certainly ran it and court a crapload this week.
chrome falcon
nah fuck that
mental scarab
How much of a dps incrs is the ring?
jagged pier
chrome falcon
not much
mental scarab
🦧
jagged pier
compared to another 272
dawn canyon
any eu cos needers btw
jagged pier
around 100 dps
mental scarab
Mhm
mental scarab
Not wurth it😎
vernal vale
How much of a dps incrs is the ring?
Ring is not huge but it it is good
sacred timber
Ya that's pretty low
I mean... the healer wasn't evene healing me... I think over the key I recieved something like 1.7M healing from healer.
median tulip
Outhealed a shaman in a +20 last night as prot warrior XD
Your DPS are to be congratulated for dodging mechanics properly, then
sacred timber
Your DPS are to be congratulated for dodging mechanics properly, then
I recieved.... not the dps
I think his healing over all was like 11.8M
brave stirrup
with 4pc im sitting at 30 percent haste and 8 percent vers....should i be concerned about the verse?
chrome falcon
no
mellow gorge
quick quesiton, does this effect work in m+?
or do mobs in m+ not have experience or honor
distant crystal
it should work ya
jagged pier
with 4pc im sitting at 30 percent haste and 8 percent vers....should i be concer...
U dont ever be concerned about ver
jagged pier
quick quesiton, does this effect work in m+?
Well as u dont get exp in m+ i doubt it would
mellow gorge
wait wait no
victory rush works
and it's requirement is to land a killing blow on an enemy that yields XP or honor
urban portal
^
brave stirrup
@jagged pier how much haste should i be aiming for?
mellow gorge
so that should work then, i'll have to keep my eye on it and see if it's bugged or not
strong forum
A few tbh
mellow gorge
well it's cause you need a killing blow
urban portal
Yeah a little bit
dawn canyon
<@179993058186625025> how much haste should i be aiming for?
high 30s would be good
strong forum
You can force it with sniping executes
mellow gorge
yea
but the cloak effect is just killing an enemy, so if it works correctly it should give 55 haste per pack for 20 second
strong forum
But it'll only be 55 haste after most of the pack is already dead
So keep that in mind
Aswell as it being low ilvl
brave stirrup
What loot spec is advisable for vault?
jagged pier
<@179993058186625025> how much haste should i be aiming for?
40% unbuffed without dropping strength
mellow gorge
true true
dawn canyon
prot
strong forum
Prot until shield/weapon
chrome falcon
@brave stirrup like 34% but it doesn't matter just prio haste on jewellry and stuff with same ilvl and you'll be fine
dawn canyon
what
chrome falcon
(that's how much haste i have to answer your earlier question)
mellow gorge
now that i have 272 shield and wep
and also I play arms on the side
so fury is a best of both worlds since I could get a better single handed weapon and dps trinks
or a 2 handed one
brave stirrup
i have 265 first sigil and scale that i need to level up, im guessing having 2 on use trinkets is bad? i shouldnt wear both? which should i wear if thats the case
dawn canyon
what else do u have
chrome falcon
first sigil isn't good in m+
brave stirrup
No aegis, I have no other decent trinket to take the second slot yet
kind prairie
U dont ever be concerned about ver
Can you elaborate on why not to be concerned about vers?
wooden radish
@ionic fern is dragonsworn warrior using dragon roar bis in dragonflight?
sweet summit
yeah
sweet summit
np
strong forum
Groot
kind prairie
Or, I guess anyone say why not to worry about vers?
urban portal
Can you elaborate on why not to be concerned about vers?
Because vers sucks
As a defensive stat
It's 80 vers to get 1% reduction
kind prairie
Ah.
urban portal
Comparatively it takes crit like 35/40 to get 1% parry
More haste is also more ip for magic damage
kind prairie
I am used to old thinking of "vers for magic reduction"
kind prairie
More haste is also more ip for magic damage
This makes sense.
So, focus haste above all. Got it... So... what should I worry about as a secondary, secondary stat?
jagged pier
because your 10% vers is 5 % damage reduction, which makes a small difference, where you'll make a much bigger difference playing correctly yourself
vers something nice but not somthing we care about
kind prairie
because your 10% vers is 5 % damage reduction, which makes a small difference, w...
Thank you
kind prairie
So, get haste, the rest just whatever?
ionic fern
<@238357283996696576> is dragonsworn warrior using dragon roar bis in dragonflig...
100%.
kind prairie
(ilvl first, of course)
chrome falcon
votw neck probably better than gambit for dps in m+ right
kind prairie
Thanks everyone!
hollow hill
Leaning towards taking belt. Thoughts?
other option is 278 tier legs but i already have 272 tier legs
jagged pier
thats bis neck tho
chrome falcon
str stam armour
toxic pewter
prob belt cuz neck has better stats and necks/rings have high ilvl 'range'
chrome falcon
i thought we were saying cabochon was bis neck now
brave stirrup
how nasty is this weeks affix's
hollow hill
highest haste value
hollow hill
yea big haste
but also, i can upgrade my cabochan to 272 if I want, but I don't have an upgradeable belt atm
strong forum
It's not bis-bis neck
But it's up there
Only better necks are the cabachon at 278 , or jailer neck at 285 is alot not half bad
sacred timber
is week good or bad >_>
hollow hill
Yea kinda my thought atm. I'm at 35% haste without ITF so don't care as much about neck atm
strong forum
Ye thats fine
You can turn that belt into tier belt aswell
Or well, raid belt
Dunno if it has good stats
hollow hill
oh true true let me check
toxic pewter
can yall help me choose:
strong forum
Shield unless you raid mythic
hollow hill
eh probably turns into vers mastery or crit mastery
yea you will keep that shield rest of the patch, i say go for it
jagged pier
shield
toxic pewter
worse stats tho
strong forum
?? ++
toxic pewter
i have haste verse 265 shield
strong forum
So?
jagged pier
????????????
strong forum
All you care about is the ilvl lol
toxic pewter
apparently that neck is bis or something?
strong forum
Stats do not matter on shield
strong forum
Pick. The. Shield.
jagged pier
like 2nd or 3rd bis
strong forum
Ye
By about 7-10%
Effectively
Shield is the biggest factor to your survivability in terms of gear
waxen orbit
LMFAO MY THEORY IS PROVEN
THE LESS YOU DO TO DESERVE TIER
THE MORE YOU GET
DIDN'T DO SHIT FOR 3 WEEKS
CAME BACK
BEFORE MY SUB EXPIRES
AND GET A 278 CHEST
toxic pewter
lmao
lime urchin
No yelling!
toxic pewter
i still have yet to get a single piece from vault
lime urchin
I did not have tier, so I crafted a tierpiece this week. I feel dumb.
chrome falcon
6 runs with 4 traders in an hour and all i have is 3 necklaces
craggy pilot
Heart of the Swarm any worth? or only for memes?
chrome falcon
i am such a stinky crybaby i might just give up on parsing if i don't get it
jagged pier
dude its like a 2% increase
chrome falcon
yeah hence stinky crybaby
chrome falcon
hey man i don't have to try it just happens
but also
yeah i wouldn't care if i could get this again in like 2 months during farm
craggy pilot
what are you grinding for Matta?
craggy pilot
oh 😄
chrome falcon
the next legion timewalking is august T_T
craggy pilot
https://bloodmallet.com/chart/warrior/protection/trinkets/castingpatchwerk
how accurate is this? 🤔 Earthbreakers Impact seems kinda high
chrome falcon
yeah it could be it's not going to. like you said it's only a 2% increase
jagged pier
earthbreaker is a sim bait
craggy pilot
oh because of the moving over tectonic weak points?
grizzled lotus
hrm question
chrome falcon
why does bloodmallet show show soleahs dps increase in the wrong order
craggy pilot
and Decanter showing higher DPS than Ticking Sac 🤔
chrome falcon
vers > mastery > crit > haste isn't that literally the exact opposite of what it should be
jagged pier
its not
bloodmallet isnt 100% actuate imo
sack does more damage than my 272 phial for instance
craggy pilot
bloodmallet isnt 100% actuate imo
is he being serious, i cant tell 🤣
chrome falcon
i mean there's no way this is accurate
chrome falcon
it's showing crit and haste as our worst stats for dps
craggy pilot
https://bloodmallet.com/chart/warrior/protection/trinkets/hecticaddcleave
also the hectic add cleave seems kinda random
craggy pilot
sack does more damage than my 272 phial for instance
but this is opposite of what bloodmallet is showing?
jagged pier
exactly why i said it isnt 100% accurate
craggy pilot
exactly why i said it isnt 100% accurate
ohhhh i thought you said "bloodmallet is 100% accurate"
i missread sry lol
chrome falcon
yeah go check any skolex log of the people who have both trinkets
pretty sure sack>phial on most if not all
craggy pilot
also on the AOE chart, Sack of Terror is simming very shitty
Heart of Swarm pretty high
jagged pier
windscar not even up there and it does still do good damage in aoe
craggy pilot
the explosion from Sack, is it ST or MT?
jagged pier
even after nerf
vernal vale
windscar not even up there and it does still do good damage in aoe
Windscar slaps in aoe
Got one this week and it's actually great.
ebon geyser
We dragons yet