protection

[brave stirrup]

During the 3 hit combo it can be any order? So it could go riftmaw riftmaw rend?

[chrome falcon]

Yes

[median tulip]

Given even ilvls, I would prefer a shield with secondaries for any purpose other than raiding

[austere forum]

Does weapon dps do anything for prot damage? Or is all about the 🛡?

[chrome falcon]

We scale off weapon damage just as much as anyone

And our damage doesn’t scale off our shield

[brave stirrup]

So it’s safe for each tank to tsunt between the hits right?

[chrome falcon]

Hasn’t for years that’s a classic thing

Yes weapon

[brave stirrup]

Thx

[median tulip]

This isn't classic; all abilities scale based on attack power now, not based on weapon damage

[chrome falcon]

And make sure you split since they’re frontals

[brave stirrup]

Right

[austere forum]

👍🏿

Any tips on Artificer? The back to back rings make hurt my brain

[median tulip]

Do more DPS

[austere forum]

So skip that phase 😂

[median tulip]

He's a terminal burn phase boss; have CDs and lust when he hits final phase, GG loot pinata

The first 2/3rds of the fight is trivial; or it should be

[dark lark]

There's nothing super tank specific, only thing is on tank bomb to angle yourself in a way that minimizes the number of players getting caught by traps in mid air

[austere forum]

Is that the ability that pulls the Raid onto me.

[chrome falcon]

Yes

Should be able to find plenty of videos of people doing it on all difficulties not sure if you’re talking about normal or HC

[mighty valley]

it's ok to pull people across the rings with the tank succ

and sometimes the right play

just don't accidentally suck everyone away from the portals right when they need to go through

[oblique quarry]

is heroic sepulchurs savior a bad sheild? seems pretty MEH

[dark lark]

Or pull them all through a trap

[mighty valley]

slightly better defensively and slightly worse offensively than other same ilvl shields

block value nice for keys

[vernal vale]

Man, I feel like I'm making so many mistakes with 4p now gotta spend some time in dungeons and on dummies

changing where keybinds are to make it easier to hit ignore pain is hurting me too

[mighty valley]

We're gonna have a long time with this set bonus to get used to it

[vernal vale]

I just got it last night

[mighty valley]

Yeah I just got it at the reset

Felt like I was fucking up a lot in my first couple dungeons, but still was v powerful

[vernal vale]

I'm probably trying to hard on managing the bonus instead of just playing tonight

trying to get SS only for outburst procs and the like

[mighty valley]

I mean, don't accidentally blow the key or anything, but you're better off focusing on the one thing you want to improve at

[vernal vale]

Yeah, ive been trying to quash my rage waste

Definitely feels fun with shitloads of mistakes

[vernal vale]

yeah, focused on just playing and pantheon instantly felt better to me

I know i was still not playing the best because that was rough on the first go at it

[cinder nova]

About to start 4P2L H Ryg prog, it seems like it's easy comfy damage

Any commentary?

N Ryg is full on noodle arms

[urban portal]

learn to soak

thats it

[ocean yoke]

intermission only difference and just wall and its baby

fun fight tbh very easy to get charges constantly

[hard knot]

why are we running necro, for dps, surv, or both?

[vernal vale]

both

plus it feeds the 4set with rage gain

[hard knot]

i seem to do more dps as Kyrian

[vernal vale]

you will burst more as kyrian

long term necro does more

kyrian has better aoe

but really only during spear

necro is better boss damage

[pliant sage]

Unrelated note, cute avatar. Gj

[pulsar wedge]

Does ignorepain help get rid of the healing shield on Anduin?

[dusky canopy]

sigil is pretty good isnt it?

[ocean yoke]

very pog for execute phase

[sacred timber]

Live for this

[latent pier]

Why is everyone so hyped about blood dks all of the sudden?

Was gonna dust mine off and now kinda don't want to since everyone is lol

[scenic mural]

Im leveling one atm lmao

[urban portal]

bcause its invincible in raid

takes no melee damage cuz infinite parry

does infinite damage cuz infinite heart strikes

75% strength if you play properly

[sacred timber]

3% Loss! My best key yet!

The graph shows that I never capped tho >_<

[cinder nova]

Do tanks actually do stuff in H Ryg?

[urban portal]

yeah its just a big soak when you go downstairs

thats it

[cinder nova]

How's the strike mechanic? Still able to passively tank it more or less?

[urban portal]

not rly

just need to dump a couple IP and have shield block up

its not easy but not hard

[cinder nova]

Idk that sounds passive tbh

[urban portal]

yeah you need your big defensives on the soak

[cinder nova]

My idea of active tanking is like week 1 H Sko

That was abuse

[urban portal]

Yeah

Skolex v well designed imo

Monks are terrorized

[pliant sage]

Well I just stomped through Jailers Gauntlet layer 1 and 2, easy day

[urban portal]

Don't get hard until 5

Huge spike

[vernal vale]

Layer 5 suddenly spikes to insane levels compared to the 4 before that.

[blazing condor]

The jailer is dead now shouldnt his gauntlet be really easy

If i was a boss in there id just go home

Whos gonna payroll me

[mighty valley]

i'd pay you

[blazing condor]

[jagged pier]

ay

[blazing condor]

ez for ya boy

[agile cosmos]

Going to play my warrior which was my first character in vanilla right before bc and all through bc. How is protection spec?

[mental scarab]

How Big dps incrs is the 2 set on singel target isch?

Finaly got it

[strong forum]

It's the fastest spec in the game once you have 4pc tier

But has a higher skill floor than other classes to perform well

And an equally high skill ceiling

[agile cosmos]

Nice that’s exactly what I am looking for was playing paladin prof got boring so did holy

[lime urchin]

palading prot is fun too!

[agile cosmos]

Yeah just the skill floor is low I didn’t play it much but it was kinda easy to keep up your defensive

Maybe I am just a warrior at heart haha

[lime urchin]

a true tundahclapper!

[agile cosmos]

You know it

[jagged pier]

Saw you were ralking about thought i havent hopeing in since trying layer 7 one week one, its wasnt too bad actually

[blazing condor]

I have yet to try gauntlet i did like 2 layers week one

ez for ya boy i meant easy for you ofc

[jagged pier]

nah like layer 1-4 is easy

it spikes up at 5

then just harder from there

[blazing condor]

i never had a doubt

[uncut notch]

Do you get anything for this one? Quite enjoyed spending a few hours doing 1-4 when they released

I enjoyed 1-4 but found that the power RNG got extremely annoying and it was often easier to just reset the instance than take a rough power/room 1 combo

[jagged pier]

no

i didnt reroll powers until layer 6 on week eone

didnt reroll on 7

and tried with ever set of powers on layer 8

[strong forum]

Surely you now have gotten cool and unique cosmetic rewards for besting such a hard and demanding challenge?

[jagged pier]

no

it goes towards a title

[strong forum]

[ionic fern]

Surely the title atleast has a cool name?

[blazing condor]

u need SL timewalking gear to be able to do it

it's also bugged

[strong forum]

And overtuned

Don't forget overtuned

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[teal swift]

what is the title

[delicate iron]

Is it Tower Ranger or something?

[humble tendon]

I finally have 2 tier pieces

So weekend will test necro power through m+

Some dummy train would help to maintain banner as much as possible? Or no point for it

I think i press buttons fast but still not enough

I should have learned piano

But i have fat fingers

[silk edge]

just go straight to dungeons

[blazing condor]

you can but i wouldnt recommend it cus dummy training doesn't give you the rage gain from multiple mobs hitting you in m+

as well as intervene and charge weaving being harder

idk i tested dummies at first and it was way harder than actually doing m+

or maybe we dont actually gain rage from taking damage anymore idrk

either way shit was easier in m+ than on dummy

[dawn canyon]

We stil do but its minimal

[blazing condor]

oic

[dawn canyon]

like from the logs i remember seeing it was 200 in a key

[hard vessel]

So with booming voice we should use it on CD and early in the pull for more dps? I have a real aggro struggle against frost dk since I switched to BV

[lofty widget]

you use BV on cd for the rage, 20 % dmg on revenge shouldnt lose you very much aggro on pull

[gentle geode]

What trinkets are everyone running, right now im running the heroic Sylv trinket and a 246 scale, I just got a heroic first sigil but I think I’m sticking with the scale in m+ and swapping it for the sigil in most boss fights

[blazing condor]

aegis + ows

[ebon geyser]

Bois and gals
https://c.tenor.com/Hu8Bo4-9Vh4AAAAM/top-top-of-the-mornin-to-ya.gif

[blazing condor]

Top of the morning Top of the morning Top of the morning TOP of the morning

[torpid junco]

How does our rotation change with 4 piece

[grave crane]

Runnin 236 phial and 278 codex

[hard vessel]

I don't have problems on pull I have problem when 4 set frost dks press their 1 hit aoe 3 min aoe button

[blazing condor]

challenging shout

[grave crane]

Revenge

[hard vessel]

4 min CD while his is 3 min

[lofty widget]

if it's not on pull then you should have enough threat to not lose aggro

[blazing condor]

idk it shouldnt really be a problem

but yeah

tell him to wait

a gcd or two

[hard vessel]

Hmm it's also only in bigger pulls with 10+ mobs, k maybe I just need to try harder

[cinder nova]

278 Phial 265 First Sigil

To be honest, you don't need Scale unless you're doing higher keys (20 and up) or you have no faith in your healer.

[cinder nova]

Square root damage means you're damaging every mob past a breakpoint less than the first 5 or 8. More mobs means less damage each mob, but more damage overall. Less damage individually means less threat individually.

You're pushing TC less and less.

Also you're gonna want to make sure you aren't geeding and wasting Outburst by pressing Ava with one already active.

But if you chain them back to back, you'll have a third not far behind.

[ruby locust]

with legion time walking out is there any trinkets or anything i should try to farm out?

[dawn canyon]

fcm is a decent damage trinket for raifd

[cinder nova]

Whetstone is decent cleave

[ruby locust]

a decent defensive one?

[lofty widget]

nah

[cinder nova]

Not that I can recall.

[ruby locust]

as of now im using to on use dmg trinkets cause its all i have kek

[cinder nova]

Gross

[ruby locust]

iqd and earthbreaker

[cinder nova]

Extra ew

[ruby locust]

they dont do bad dmg

[cinder nova]

I'm gonna guess sub 300

[ruby locust]

its about 4 % overall

[cinder nova]

But what's the absolute

[ruby locust]

looking at logs sec

yeah 200k XD

[cinder nova]

200 DPS?

[ruby locust]

its def not worth

[cinder nova]

Yeah that's not very much. My 233 sack does 460 on a good fight

[cinder nova]

Hence

[ruby locust]

its sadly all i got though

[cinder nova]

I mean, yeah. I'd try for Phial or FCM.

[remote python]

For m+ is it still kyrian or do we switch to maldraxus?

[cinder nova]

Either

NL is way tankier and frankly more fun

Kyrian has snap aggro

[wild hemlock]

i hope nf isnt memein. i really like nf for the slow influx of rage vs the rage from spear

[lofty widget]

nf/kyr just different shades of blue

[wild hemlock]

nf feels like playing a beginner piano song where kyr feels like motzart during your opener lmao

[lofty widget]

i agree kyrian feels like way too much rage, especially with LS Up

[crystal iris]

how tf you tank lords with reprisal

[chrome falcon]

it's hard

[lofty widget]

charge your co tanks boss

[rugged mural]

DPS pretty similar between NFae and Necro in M+? I’ve been enjoying NF a ton in the 18-20 range. Haven’t done Necro yet.

[chrome falcon]

i normally IV a melee after i get malganis debuff but

[lofty widget]

intervene melee after the frontal cast

[brave stirrup]

In m+ does everyone always kill the urh relic first?

[lofty widget]

depends, but usually yes

[median tulip]

90%+ of the time, yeah

[vernal vale]

In pugs I only really get Wo in streets and HoA

The DoS one is apparently hard so I never do that one with pugs.

[rugged mural]

I take Wo in SoA to get to third boss too. Urh isn’t very useful on that trash lieutenant

Vy almost never

[hollow blaze]

Any good tank trinkets or something to look out for in the legion dungeons?

[lofty widget]

nothing defensive, faulty countermeasure is good for pure ST, think whetstone is decent cleave as well

[cinder nova]

Here

1. Press your movement keys in a way that moves you away from the boss
2. Press charge

Like others said, just charge the other boss between claw mechanics, it's easy

[brave stirrup]

When learning m+ with seasonal affix how do I know which affix everyone wants ? How do you manage that in a pug

[cinder nova]

Boss timers aren't just for your raid lead to use and scream at you

[cinder nova]

You tell them Urh and they do it

[lofty widget]

just default to killing Uhr, unless you need Wo to do a skip, but you should know when that is

and if someone wants vy they can kill it themselves, it's not that big of a deal for us tbh

[cinder nova]

Every time I see vy it triggers me

Feels like such a huge waste

[lofty widget]

wo is more triggering

[cinder nova]

CDR is enormous

Wo isn't as bad because it's usually hell runs anyway

[vernal vale]

Vy in a trash pack just before boss so you get haste and can immediately kill urh with boss to have two different buffs.

[lofty widget]

wo gives you nothing tho, vy at least gives our best stat

[cinder nova]

Like

Well, we got Wo. Figure since we laced up our clownshoes a while back this officially makes it a circus.

[vernal vale]

Wo makes me so angry if not doing a skip

People apparently don't know how to focus

[lofty widget]

just send 1 or 2 outburst SS into uhr and it should die first every time

[crystal iris]

You should let the DPS deal with urh tho

because if they are monkeys they might rip aaggro off the main target if youre pumping into Urh

[wild hemlock]

so we shouldnt help out

[crystal iris]

no but its our fault if the melee gets slapped by boss becuase we didnt taunt

[uncut notch]

Give them the initial outburst SS then hard focus boss

[median tulip]

make a macro "/tar urh"; works for both targeting the initial relic and the destructor

[lofty widget]

that doesnt really happen tho, we dont generate aggro with SS, thats what revenge is for

[wild hemlock]

i was just memein

[vernal vale]

The relics do practically 0 damage before triggered anyways

I will run in shield slam and then rotate to actual trash

[median tulip]

It's helpful to have the urh one die by us tho; makes it easier to pick the destructor up

[vernal vale]

Mark target 8 on urh to skull it

[crystal iris]

/target Urh Relic
/script SetRaidTarget("target", 8);

that will target it and mark with skull

[humble tendon]

@blazing condor @silk edge thanks i will try as u said

[restive crypt]

Is there a point where one transitions from kyrian into necro? Where mobs live longer or no major restriction?

[vernal vale]

Double legendary should be fine. It just gets better with tier

[urban portal]

It only gets fun when you have 4p

[cinder nova]

Idk I had a blast with 2p

I was gurning for 4p though

[heady plaza]

Is there any important legion trinkets for tanking?

[latent pier]

random question: Which quest unlocks lego drops?

Been farming gear for a friend and I guess he might now have done it yet.

[strong forum]

The runecarver one in torghast

[latent pier]

Thats what I figured, but he said he did it.

brb gonna bother him.

[scenic mural]

I rushed level 60 on my DK just to get the tri ket from jailer from my TW cache

[jagged pier]

imagine rushing to max lvl in this game

XD

[blazing condor]

Imagine rushing

[tame jasper]

Can anyone post me a screen for a necro souldbind for high m+

wanna try necro

[dapper coral]

wowhead ones are fine minus the revenge/TClap condy, use ass juggs instead

[blazing condor]

You can always look on top pwarr rios

But i run marileth 3p2e1f

[scenic mural]

When is this getting pinned😂

[sweet summit]

it's in the guides which can be found in #268491842637660160

[lime urchin]

Mah intervene wa is borked since latest patch. Anyone else had this?

[vernal vale]

Sigh, 4p made me play like ass last night. Looking at how many shield blocks I missed because I was too focused on outburst, seeing red from set. It's so sad.

[dusky canopy]

Yeah playing around 4pc is wild I enjoy it though

I had very little issue with block uptime until throwing outburst into the mix lol..

[sweet summit]

nothing changed that would directly affect this
check load options and triggers in the wa

[lofty widget]

it timed monkaW

[strong forum]

Huge

[chrome falcon]

big 25 nice one brother

[sweet summit]

good shit, king

[blazing condor]

if it takes 38 min u do it in 38 min

chad shit

no more no less

[wild hemlock]

WOOOOOO i get a 3070ti today at 4pm

1070->3070 ti baby

[strong forum]

Grats

[lime urchin]

\o/

[ebon geyser]

I'm back kiddos

[cinder nova]

Grats, but remember that card upgrades aren't linear. I haven't bothered getting rid of my 1080 because the improvement is fractional compared to the cost.

And in some categories worse.

[ebon geyser]

Wow runs on a potato

[wild hemlock]

my other specs

1 1440 and 1 1080 moniter

im a total pc noob

[strong forum]

Wow runs on a potato but even with a NASA PC you won't get good frames in raids

[west walrus]

About prot warr x)

[strong forum]

Unless you run 0 addons

[ebon geyser]

And by add-ons u mean wa

WA is a hog

[wild hemlock]

was hoping for some confirmations i wasnt making a "bad" upgrade

[undone verge]

But my shieldblock and ignore pain Icons

I’d be lost without them

[strong forum]

I upgraded from a 1080 to a 3080ti last year

Is many good

[wild hemlock]

awesome

[strong forum]

But I can still only get like 50-70fps in raid during heavy load

It do be like that

[ebon geyser]

Yesterday afternoon someone was saying I'm ZM chat if u playing warrior prot you should ky

I didn't know if it was address to me or one of the servers that is shared or to someone else

[strong forum]

It's people blatantly jumping on a bandwagon of blind hate

Nothing new

Talking about shit they have no clue about

[ebon geyser]

I mean for they to say what that say I was like wow

[wild hemlock]

highest ive done is a 17 with 2p but it feels sosososo good

idk how people play different tanks other than prot and bdk. such fun specs

[strong forum]

They don't bother to try

[wild hemlock]

pally puts me to sleep

[strong forum]

Every person who has played pwar this patch so far praises it

[ebon geyser]

Funny u say this because I legit fell asleep while tanking a m+ on my bear

[strong forum]

Idk anybody who has tier and doesn't suck at it who doesn't enjoy it

[wild hemlock]

cant wait for 4p

[chilly brook]

I did some heroic bosses last night

One of our regular tanks goes

[ebon geyser]

I want 4 piece

[chilly brook]

Wait what the fuck is this? I thought prot was trash

[ebon geyser]

I only have legs and chest

[chilly brook]

Apparently me doing 10k was blowing his mind

[ebon geyser]

Need gloves and anything else

[wild hemlock]

my prot is an alt and i dont have time for 2 raids a week

so i just have vault/cata

[ebon geyser]

But lfr is big yikes

[strong forum]

:)

[chilly brook]

Only got a 95 on rygelon

Ended at 8.7k

[ebon geyser]

Prot trash no, but u trash yes.

Would have been my answer lol

[chilly brook]

I didn’t get to spam execute as much as I would have liked

That dot fucks

Also ended up dropping banner at one point which didn’t help

[ebon geyser]

https://c.tenor.com/rwZNrZ2V2MoAAAAM/shame-go-t.gif

[chilly brook]

Honestly 100% banner uptime is so easily obtainable in raid unless you have to run out or something

[blazing condor]

banner uptime is easy cus it feels like you dont have to actively think about it

at least not fully

[ebon geyser]

Nop banner is set it and forget it

[blazing condor]

you just generate a shit ton of rage and then press shit

[west walrus]

You can already get 100% uptime with 2p if you are always fighting

[west walrus]

The same healer died from Purifying burst in Gambit, and complained about aggro

[blazing condor]

aggro these nuts

[sweet summit]

[west walrus]

50.8k

[ebon geyser]

Got em

[blazing condor]

yeah i got my nuts

[sweet summit]

sure hope you do

[blazing condor]

i got them stored in a safe place no one will ever look

[sweet summit]

good one

[blazing condor]

yeah a good place

[cinder nova]

Mouth breathers that get their info from streamers through simpy parasocial relationships.

X said it was bad so it must be

[vernal vale]

I'm playing super bad. Only at like 50% -70% banner with 4piece. I'm trying to hard I think.

[chilly brook]

Prolly

It was pretty effortless to attain like 88% uptime or w/e

[cinder nova]

Just push buttons

[vernal vale]

Focusing too much on my seeing red/outburst and then just flubbing everything

[cinder nova]

That's why I made an aura that pings me when I'm at 7

[vernal vale]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YxtZ1QL7JA6cVz4a/

Might have to add the ping to my buff tracker myself.

[cinder nova]

I can share it when I'm back and you can decide if you like it

I'm still in Maui but this is my last day

[strong forum]

Humble brag

[cinder nova]

Nom I'm actually hundreds of miles from my computer you noid

[chilly brook]

Man is living his best life

[strong forum]

Same as me S.

I'm 600km away from home rn

[chilly brook]

I’ll be hundreds of miles away from my computer next week

[cinder nova]

What for?

[chilly brook]

[strong forum]

Family

[chilly brook]

I’m going to Vegas for work

Really not looking forward to it tbh

[cinder nova]

Oh, bro. That's rancid. I'm here with my mom because I wanted to take her on a trip and she's very easy company

If it was my whole family I'd put both barrels of my favorite shotgun in my mouth

[chilly brook]

Lol

[strong forum]

Is pretty chill, but could've gone 2/3 days later

[vernal vale]

I would appreciate that share

[strong forum]

It's legit just us chillin in the newly built house, but it doesn't have Internet yet

[dawn canyon]

Real

[strong forum]

It's fine, half of the day im laying in bed watching memes :haha:

[cinder nova]

There are worse ways to live

[dawn canyon]

Bedge and games

Not wow

[cinder nova]

I'm still whacked that they got wild chickens just cruising around

[blazing condor]

i can tell you guys i had plans to go away for a week rn but they got canceled and now im stuck home doing nothing

not too good either

[vernal vale]

So, i should just focus on play and less on set bonus. That will Naturally improve my banner and the like?

[chilly brook]

Here’s to hoping internet will be up and running by the time I move to the new place in Texas

[chilly brook]

Yea basically

Consume shield slam as soon as it’s up

Keep spending rage so you don’t overcap

Boom

[chrome falcon]

The set doesn't really add a ton of gameplay it shouldn't take much focus

The only time you need to actively think about it is when you're going to avatar so you don't double consume stacks

[chilly brook]

I definitely didn’t do that like 3x on rygelon

[chrome falcon]

man i double-outbursted AND consumed that outburst with a TC last night on our lihuvim kill

i genuinely wanted to cry

[chilly brook]

Same

Sometimes that rage flow is disgusting

Outburst and at 7 stacks of seeing red

And then your avatar is coming up

[vernal vale]

Okay, as I'm running dungeons this weekend I'll focus lest on the bonus and more on play.

[chilly brook]

Or you’re at like 4 stacks and pop 3 abilities and it instantly converts to outburst

Kinda nutty

[chrome falcon]

well i just don't know what you mean by "focusing on the bonus"

you don't need to just stare at your seeing red stacks all the time

[vernal vale]

I'm watching outburst seeing red too much

Trying to pay closer attention to it than what I should be.

[cinder nova]

https://tenor.com/view/pathetic-nolan-grayson-omni-man-invincible-pity-gif-20908860

[chrome falcon]

you literally only need to know what those stacks are at when they're at 6+

as soon as one thing went wrong it was just full meltdown

[cinder nova]

Yeah fucking up your banner and rotation makes a huge DPS diff

[chrome falcon]

yep

[cinder nova]

Visible backsliding in real time

[chrome falcon]

rank 4 prot warrior gameplay not even top 3

[vernal vale]

So yeah failing on the rest of my play to watch seeing red definitely is not what I should be doing.

[chrome falcon]

fully washed

[cinder nova]

Yeah that's over micro

[late maple]

Any warriors interested in all warrior 15s today 3pm pacific for NA horde?

[chrome falcon]

NA

[blazing condor]

[distant crystal]

I'll join and take all the scrap loot

[chilly brook]

Looking at my logs

I was the 4th lowest on heals needed

On anduin

[late maple]

I blame blizzard for giving us cross faction before cross region 😦

[chilly brook]

[blazing condor]

cross region would be nutty

[distant crystal]

put me in coach

[sweet summit]

servers would explode

[dawn canyon]

Like even if i go na

Everything is gone

Tmog mounts catchup

[blazing condor]

potato > baked potato

[sweet summit]

can't even handle a reset day on tarren mill

[chilly brook]

If I wasn’t still going to be at work I would be

[lofty widget]

let's start a movement for cross region!

[late maple]

😦 Pika doesn't get off work until 4 so I need a tank for tonight lol ugh

[chilly brook]

I get off at 5 lol

So can’t help

[dawn canyon]

The big question, what's your favourite shield Model?

[chrome falcon]

@sweet summit they merged my dead server into mf tarren mill sadge

tell pika to just lend his account to me

griff why did you just ping me in the fury channel

[blazing condor]

cheap ah

[chrome falcon]

never ping me in a fucking dps channel what's wrong with you

[sweet summit]

ya they merged dentarg with tarren meanwhile turalyon/doomhammer is still dead as fuck???

[late maple]

That is an easy answer, wod challenge mode shield 🙂

[blazing condor]

aren't those "beginner" servers anyway?

or new player

[dawn canyon]

New Player servers wont get merged

That's the way she goes

[sweet summit]

wtf

[blazing condor]

feels weird to merge them with the normie ones

[sweet summit]

i got scammed

[dawn canyon]

Great choice

[blazing condor]

ur right where u belong xPPP

[sweet summit]

stuck on new player realm

[wild hemlock]

if i can tank i can do 4pm haha. i literally have never warrior dpsed before

[blazing condor]

just press whirlwind ever 3 ability or so

[dawn canyon]

I have double binding on my pala on Doomhammer and cant afford the Mats for my tfury

Legit gonna get a new Set of binding and do it on Main

[blazing condor]

when i got tfury in cata i would farm the mats and craft the bars myself every day

like a daily thing lol

do a bunch of dailies for money

mine a bit

[chilly brook]

Idk I truthfully thought it was prot for some reason

[blazing condor]

and buy off AH

shit were expensive at the time like 500g a bar

maybe 1k even

[dawn canyon]

It's ≈80k on that server

So nothing im getting on a char i havent played since CN

[blazing condor]

best start mining then

[dawn canyon]

[sweet summit]

there's boomkin in my guild controlling the entire ah market and we hate him for it (this is almost true)

[chilly brook]

Now it’s in the right channel

[chrome falcon]

what boss is that

lihuvim or something?

[chilly brook]

Anduin

[wild hemlock]

ehrps?

[chrome falcon]

effective healing required

[wild hemlock]

per sec

gotcha ty

[chilly brook]

The healing needed from outside sources basically

[wild hemlock]

yer

tyty

[sweet summit]

external healing required per second

[chrome falcon]

why did i say effective

[brave stirrup]

Damn that’s pretty damn good if I’m reading that right ?

[sweet summit]

it's not a perfect metric, but yea

[mighty cairn]

anduin auto attacks r free real estate

[vernal vale]

Talking about ehrps

Even when I point at logs guild still says paladin is better.

.<

[cinder nova]

Guild also wants you Kyr

You're talking to people who can't figure out how numbers work

[vernal vale]

True enough

[cinder nova]

Showing more numbers hoping it'll change them almost makes you the dumb one in that scenario

Almost

[vernal vale]

I was talking to another guild on our server. Possibly switching but it means I'll fury in raid.

[cinder nova]

Cursed

I refuse to raid DPS

[vernal vale]

Have to trial for a couple weeks too where they won't let me have gear which I always hate c

Limits you to personal drops and vault; but it is a better guild so there is that.

[cinder nova]

Can't blame them not wanting to funnel on an unsure bet

[vernal vale]

I'm gonna struggle to find a tank spot switching guilds.

[vernal vale]

Yeah, I definitely understand but it's still an annoyance to me to not be allowed to roll.

Odds are in a full group I lose the roll anyways.

[chrome falcon]

if they give out their loot via roll then it's weird to even care about where the loot goes in the first place

the point of loot rules is to give that loot to your best players to benefit the group the most

[cinder nova]

They want their loot to stay in the group

People who they want and are showing up and performing

Not being particular about who it goes to is a means to keep a trial from pumping and dumping

[vernal vale]

Yeah, as long as they don't expect me to give up my drops I guess I don't really care. It's an old irritation from master looter/loot council where people would ninja shit.

Hell if I can get my foot in the door somewhere and have more fun there's always our weird season 4 to return to tanking raid.

So our paladin fell over a lot on livium last night. Are we just slow on the taunt?

That also being said I survived combo on my own after he died with shield wall and external.

[chrome falcon]

looks like you didn't taunt in time but that mechanic is a joke and should just be handled by popping big CDs and solo tanking

it's easier and safer that way

switching during it requires precise taunt timing and the circle moves during the combo

soloing it just requires you to press a cooldown, on mythic i survived every one with just shield wall

[vernal vale]

Okay, I was wondering. Thanks

It says to taunt for it on some guide since that's what kept being said by GM and pally.

[lyric geode]

Which bosses can be solotanked?

[chrome falcon]

objectively speaking if you taunt during you take less overall damage

but it's easy to fuck up the timing

so why not just reduce the chance of dying to 0%

[mighty valley]

god we have shield wall all the time now, I’m def not pressing it enough

[vernal vale]

^

[urban portal]

macro it to avatar to get more uses

[mighty valley]

the lazy solution for bads… I love it

[vernal vale]

Lol

[urban portal]

yo i got that 84% shield block uptime

when i macroed block to slam

its kinda op

i was doing it to meme a key

[vernal vale]

I mean early on I macroed heroic strike into shield slam for gladiator stance.

It worked well enough for me to figure out the rest of the spec.

That being said shield block is a lot different

[cinder nova]

What? Just taunt when you see circle

Ez

How is that precise

[vernal vale]

Apparently that's not clear enough for my group since pally fell over 3 times. So I wasn't taunting quick enough. Gonna look at timeline after work and double check.

[cinder nova]

If you see the circle you taunt, that's the whole swap you got like 30 seconds of wind up on DBM to know it's coming

[strong forum]

^

Legit just circle=taunt

And ofc be away from others

[chrome falcon]

sure both ways are equally easy

i just think that soloing it reduces the risk of braindead melee

and you're literally never pressing shield wall if you're not pressing it there

[late maple]

Any prot warriors interested in all warrior 15s for charity? Starts at 3pm pacific

[chrome falcon]

bringing a prot warrior to a key is already charity

the jokes make it easier when i get declined

[urban portal]

ill do it if we are double doing/triple prot warriors

[late maple]

But there are only like three people playing prot warriors right now, don't think I can get all 3 of them together

[blazing condor]

only NA right

?

[late maple]

Yea

[blazing condor]

[grave crane]

obviously there would be a healer? or is it ALL warriors

[chrome falcon]

all warrior means all warrior brother

[jagged pier]

Yea most of your prot warriors are eu

[jagged pier]

No we did 5 prot warriors last season

Eegas already done 5 warrior this season as well not all prot but def all warrior

[brave stirrup]

Feeling super intimidated venturing into m+, I’ve done it before a lot in past expansions but I’m just not familiar with the routes and really don’t wanna deal with the toxic kids

[misty sail]

i can help, not main prot but have decent gear and io

na too, seems funny 5 prot

[scenic mural]

i felt this way too. i never did m+ or tanked then just jumped in now im 2700io, just gotta go for it

[eager lake]

what stat u guys going into for prot warr in m+ ?

[scenic mural]

haste

[lofty widget]

strength

(aka ilvl)

[grave crane]

hell yeah brother

[chilly brook]

Stop caring

Just do it

[scenic mural]

Exactly, i used to be nervous about pugs being upset with routes and all that and now i realized that even up to like 19s dps are just there to zug, they have no idea about routes, they just follow you

[strong forum]

You're Mama duck

And the dps and healer are just ducklings

[chilly brook]

People place too much stock in experience or current season etc.

Just hold w

Don’t die

[strong forum]

^

[chilly brook]

Boom you timed the key

[strong forum]

That's enough to time most keys

Unless dps is legit abysmal

[chilly brook]

Enhance homie asked me before I just said fuck it I’m tanking if I had tanked 20s this season

He picked up another tank cuz it was no

Then I said fuck it I’m tanking when they wanted to do my key

He suddenly got annoyed when I said I’m going to bed afterwards

TLDR, don’t die. Get comfy.

Then do big pulls and funnel your dps the highest damage overall they’ve done

[vernal vale]

Just pull one pack after the other very little need to get fancy most of the time.

HoA is a tight timer if you dont use wo skip

[chilly brook]

wut

HoA is a very lenient timer

[vernal vale]

That's the one I always have a hard time timing.

What's your route?

With wo or invisibility potion the timer becomes very lenient.

[distant crystal]

skipping to 2nd boss is giga standard

every scuffed 15 pug will do it

[urban portal]

i mean

yeah

no reason you dont skip the courtyard

[distant crystal]

as long as one person who can rez had an invis pot or stealth lol

done plenty of death runs there too loll

[vernal vale]

The number of failed runs I've had because people fail invisibility is way too high

[urban portal]

how do you fail

[cinder storm]

What key level are you in?

[urban portal]

we havae been playing this dungeon since covid

its the same shit

year 3

[vernal vale]

People are stupid. I've only done a 16 in there as my highest. Least favorite this expansion.

[cinder storm]

In that range I would say, kill the encrypted pack with the tiny gargoyles last and shield slam the heck out of wo after telling them to focus so and marking it with a skull

[chilly brook]

pretty standard, big pull onto shard on left

go back to the right to do other halkias

kill some stuff around 1st boss

kill last shard

kill stuff in mid

do boss

come back kill wo that was with the small gargoyles by last shard

go zoom to 2nd boss

[rigid flower]

I'm a blood dk apparently

[chilly brook]

that dam tho

[pliant sage]

So for some tank basics like what's going on in dungeons and how it affects pulls (routing, what gives good percentage), is there a solid YouTube/twitch source? Basically I'm wanting to learn by watching so I have a decent grasp of what's going on in m+. I haven't touched the system all expansion and wanting to start

[chilly brook]

dorki makes videos sometimes

plka

[rigid flower]

Yeah, I wanted to pull more but they kept using stuns in sanguine

[pliant sage]

He does. Dorki is good content. What about yumtv (waffle cat YouTube creator)?

[rigid flower]

2set atm

[chilly brook]

still kinda low for 2 set

even with sanguine

[rigid flower]

highest overall I've done is 8.6k

What do you do to up it?

[chilly brook]

pull big

[rigid flower]

on sanguine

[chilly brook]

more revenge

more shield slam

more everything

[rigid flower]

I guess it's a trust issue

[rigid flower]

I didn't trust them to not keep stunning in the red

[chilly brook]

This was sanguine

[rigid flower]

gear?

I mean, 4set is a big change

[chilly brook]

270 equipped

[rigid flower]

264 rn

2set

[chilly brook]

and I was doing 11k with 2 set

[rigid flower]

worst trinkets

[chilly brook]

trinkets are minimal

[blazing condor]

im not really doing any dam with my 2p

playing safe

[chilly brook]

10-11k is easily doable with 264 and 2 set

[pliant sage]

I'm doing 3k with 235 equipped and only Unity :O!

[dawn canyon]

get that reprisal!

[blazing condor]

☝️

[rigid flower]

ngl I like running seismic

[dawn canyon]

based

[blazing condor]

that is acceptable

[rigid flower]

but then again I haven't tanked anything higher than like an 18 on this guy

[chilly brook]

you better not only be doing 8.6k while running seismic

[dawn canyon]

erga dabble u said repri more dam

[rigid flower]

I'm sure reprisal becomes necessary past like 21

[chilly brook]

[dawn canyon]

we need that as a gid

gif

[jagged pier]

This

[pliant sage]

Working on it. I did grinding this morning to get 5k Cosmic and learned thst I have to be Honored to buy the bag for leggo parts. So either I grind a couple days for rep or spend time in Torghast

[chilly brook]

if you're under 10k while running seismic......

you really aren't pressing your buttons

[pliant sage]

Hi

[dawn canyon]

the reason i wont ever play seismic is cuz i dont have a good bind for ww

[chilly brook]

Late was doing like 14k last season with seismic

[jagged pier]

Spiteful

[rigid flower]

Why would you ever use WW?

[jagged pier]

cough

[chilly brook]

seismic works on revenge

[dawn canyon]

[chilly brook]

even without it he was doing over 10k tho

[rigid flower]

Griff you meant to reply to other

[blazing condor]

[dawn canyon]

i mightve not done my homework

[blazing condor]

200 word essay due next week

[rigid flower]

But yeah, you got a log of yours Griff?

CPM difference?

[chilly brook]

I got scuffed logs

gimme a sec

[rigid flower]

I'm sure I'm probably IP more than I need to cause I'm still getting used to outburst procs

[grave crane]

I need to work on that as well cause I’m not revenging enough for sure

[chilly brook]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2yzT1wDmcJakLqB8#fight=1&type=summary

scuffed Mists

[rigid flower]

if wclogs app will ever open I'll compare mine, thanks

Cause overall weights look about the same

oh, wait, I think I see what's going on

It's probably not CPM at all

[chilly brook]

CPM is skewed in logs

[rigid flower]

I've been running bolster for the conduit

and cause, well, revenge lego

[chilly brook]

since it counts the whole dungeon and not just combat time

[chilly brook]

bolster big bad

[rigid flower]

Yeah, fair. It's just fun to drown in rage every 2m

But it's high time I switched back to AM

[chilly brook]

avatar is literally such a short CD with AM

[rigid flower]

even more so with urh

so yeah, no contest there

[chrome falcon]

Running bolster is a crime

[rigid flower]

Yeah yeah, I just don't trust pug healers

Gotta smooth all that damage out or they say warriors are bad

[chrome falcon]

Shouldn’t cripple yourself by running bolster then

[chilly brook]

51 seconds or less on Avatar

[chilly brook]

nor should he run seismic in that case

lol

[chrome falcon]

Running seismic does SOMETHING at least

Bolster is actual dogwater

[rigid flower]

It's just... ugh, is reprisal actually better in dps?

[chilly brook]

does nothing to help when your concern is that you don't trust healers

[chrome falcon]

Not on baby easy keys

[rigid flower]

in aoe that is

[chilly brook]

no

[chrome falcon]

But when stuff actually starts hitting you

Reprisal means you can actually tank it

[chilly brook]

but it's 100% better overall

[chrome falcon]

And hit it

[rigid flower]

Yeah I feel it

just seems silly gameplay wise

[chilly brook]

its so much rage

and free revenge

and free shield block

[brave stirrup]

do you only drop heavy recup if you have at least 2pc?

[rigid flower]

Yeah it's excessive

[chrome falcon]

No

[chilly brook]

like sure it's "silly" if you never charge weaved in the first place (which btw you should be doing even without it)

[chrome falcon]

HR is also bad

The best time to stop playing HR was 9.1

The second best time is now

[brave stirrup]

ah ok, wowhead says AM with tier

[chrome falcon]

Then wowhead are stupid

[chilly brook]

No joke, some of my avatar casts are less than 30 seconds apart

[chrome falcon]

Reprisal basically negated the need for HE

HR

Unless you were pushing hard

[chilly brook]

26 seconds, 23 seconds, 29 seconds

this is nuts

[lofty widget]

even then it was kinda

[brave stirrup]

what about best served cold vs booming voice prior to tier?

[mighty valley]

BSC generally still the pick in keys but they seem v close

[rigid flower]

I guess my confusion with Reprisal Griff is that when I check parses our dps goes way down in higher keys

[chilly brook]

M+ parses are kinda omegalul

[chrome falcon]

Yeah but also go play a 21 with seismic and try not to shit your pants

[chilly brook]

higher keys last longer

which means damage goes down anyways

[rigid flower]

Ah, gotcha

[chilly brook]

like sure

[mighty valley]

reprisal is really not as weird to play as it maybe reads

[chilly brook]

I could run seismic and pad as much as I like

but also

I'm doing 12k in keys

while also being functionally immortal

[chrome falcon]

Playing reprisal is easy if you’re already charge weaving which you should be ALREADY doing

[mighty valley]

if you've got any melee intervene is just suddenly a "get SB and rage and free revenge" button with no other implications

[chilly brook]

Like playing necro and seismic is inting

reprisal is such a huge rage generation legendary

[rigid flower]

Yeah, as someone who's only done this game in this expansion the whole jump away and charge back in as a tank feels weird

[chrome falcon]

So don’t jump away

[rigid flower]

Except for kiting, of course

[chrome falcon]

You don’t have to

[rigid flower]

You just said I did

[chilly brook]

shockwave

strafe

[mighty valley]

you start noticing a ton of gaps where enemies stand still to cast etc

[chilly brook]

charge

[chrome falcon]

Run 2 feet away from the mob that’s casting wicked bolt

[chilly brook]

^

[grave crane]

Wowhead also says seismic is bad I think

[chrome falcon]

Seismic is bad

[chilly brook]

bosses also have tons of rooting in place and casting things

look for them and exploit them

[chrome falcon]

Every boss can be pretty easily charged on

[rigid flower]

Bosses in m+ not so worried about, it's cleave trash I'm concerned about

[chilly brook]

what cleave

[chrome falcon]

Trash that cleaves is not exactly a common problem

[lofty widget]

are there even any cleave mobs?

[chilly brook]

there's like 3 mobs

in the entirety of all dungeons

[grave crane]

The big boys in NW cleave I think the skull fear boys

[mighty valley]

well, outside of legion tw where it feels like they threw a frontal on just about everything

[chrome falcon]

It’s like, thrust in the 2 venthyr dungeons, one guy in NW, one guy in mists?

And most of those stand still while they cast their cleave

[rigid flower]

Guess it's just a practice thing then

[chrome falcon]

Yep

[chilly brook]

100% is

[rigid flower]

So... shockwave then strafe away?

[chrome falcon]

I don’t even do that

[chilly brook]

I used to be an anti-reprisal Andy when they reworked it in 9.0.5

[lofty widget]

or just walk out

[chilly brook]

now look at me

[chrome falcon]

Most packs will have a caster

Worst case you just don’t proc it for one or two packs

And intervene your melee instead

[rigid flower]

I mean, it does feel kinda wrong using intervene not to actually protect someone Griff

[chrome falcon]

No it’s not

Intervene is dogshit utility

[rigid flower]

But then again it's a barely used ability

[lofty widget]

wellll

[chrome falcon]

It’s so rare you can actually save anyone with it

[chilly brook]

How often do you get to do that?

[rigid flower]

outside of cutting the distance

[lofty widget]

it's situational

[chilly brook]

Like practically never

[lofty widget]

first boss necrotic it's actually a life saver

[chilly brook]

I can count on two hands the amount of times I've used intervene to help someone

and it's mostly been as arms

[mighty valley]

yeah prior to reprisal it was almost entirely just repositioning, something was usually going v wrong if someone else was getting meleed

[rigid flower]

Guess I'll have to get a token for a new lego then

[mighty valley]

i promise it's fun when you start getting used to it

more things to do

[grave crane]

I only used intervene in nathria on SLG when the big gargoyles pinned someone. Aside from that it’s to move back or just get a SB and revenge proc

[rigid flower]

Okay, now is there a trick to do the orbs on third boss spires or just tell people to soak for you

I'm assuming it's the latter

[chrome falcon]

Nope just soak them

[lofty widget]

chain defensives/call for externals

[chrome falcon]

You can have someone with an immune do it on higher levels

[mighty valley]

didn't we already have this conversation

[chilly brook]

Soak and pop shield wall after

[lofty widget]

like demo+SR into wall into SR

and a trinket

[chilly brook]

Not during the soaking process but after

[chrome falcon]

I pop small personals during the soaks

[urban portal]

the touch doesnt do damage right

its just the dot

[chrome falcon]

And when I have every stack I SW

And fleshcraft

If strictly needed

And you have a healer for a reason, nothing else is happening there so

[distant crystal]

but the dmg amp and my healer dmg!

[mighty valley]

if you have a holy paladin they can just immune that shit and you can stay on boss dmg

[rigid flower]

Alright I'll try it again when I have the key. Been avoiding that dungeon on tyran cause I've died 100% of the time with all defensives used

[chrome falcon]

You’re probably popping too early

(And running seismic so you have less rage to IP)

[rigid flower]

good point

[chrome falcon]

(And running bolster which is so offensive that the game is probably punishing you)

[rigid flower]

lol

Alright, I'll give it a shot later

[jagged pier]

Please do not use bolster

[hard knot]

Guys, Best Serve Cold or Booming for mplus?

[blazing condor]

booming with tier

bsc without

[upper orbit]

general question for tanking this week, does sanguine heal bosses anymore? I remember it used to, not sure if thats still the case

[lofty widget]

yea it does

[median tulip]

I wouldn't know, the affixes I'm mostly dealing with this week are bolstering, volcanic, infernal

[hard knot]

what good stuff is in the time walking worth farming for warriors ?

[median tulip]

Faulty Countermeasures

maybe Windscar Whetstone as well

Jewelled Signet is ok, but nowt special

The rest is all a resounding meh

[cinder nova]

Let's put it this way

If you got none of them, you'd still be able to parse 99s ez

Get em if you want variety and an edge

[brave stirrup]

Damn, all I’ve done so far is lfr garbage and I just did a +7 (I’m nub) and man it was stimulation overload because I’m not familiar at all with the constant rage spending management plus sanguine plus tornados

But I guess that will get better the more I just do it

[uncut notch]

storming sanguine is mega fun because it turns every key into dance dance revolution

add traditional m+ dodge mechanics for additional spice

tho clipping a tornado with your leap is THE most annoying fucking thing when trying to find assassins in PF/Dorma boss

[dusky sentinel]

Had that in NW. First boss. Jump to another ledge for the pool. Clipped a tornado which bounced me back. Sad life

[cinder nova]

Tornado on chamberlain tyrannical mid double soak on a 22 really clears the sinuses

Cue the boomkin not soaking beams or trying to cop a tornado to keep us from wiping

While doing less DPS than anyone, as is tradition

Meanwhile I'm watching this inbound tornado like

[uncut notch]

YES.

[cinder nova]

It's a really specific flavor

Oh and of course it's the last soak phase with 35 seconds on the clock and boss at 18%

[uncut notch]

I have a /yell macro for rally

And in moments like that chat bars are just RALLY RALLY RALLY RALLY RALLY RALLY as I spam the shit out of it waiting for it to come off gcd

[cinder nova]

Lol

I have an aura that does yells so I'm not reported for spam

[uncut notch]

Wait

That never occurred to me

The buff becomes the yell, not the cast

Holy fuck I’m an idiot

[cinder nova]

Mcguire when they were talking about folds in the brain did you only get yours folded in half

[uncut notch]

Honestly

My brain has no folds

Just pure smoothness

[cinder nova]

It's okay that's why we're all here

[uncut notch]

It’s like a cueball

[cinder nova]

Slides right off the brisket eh

[uncut notch]

Every so often someone says something and I just go

Wait…

[cinder nova]

https://tenor.com/view/apes-together-strong-0p1sf-gif-20906166

This is #protection

[uncut notch]

And some intergalactic plate just clicks into place

Also, +2 a 19 NW earlier, for some reason blizzard was hard against us every single player dc at some point in the dungeon

Damage was good tho so we smashed it

Idk how the fuck you guys are getting 10k + without seismic as necro lord

Just need to work in more revenge somehow haha

I’m running BSC but tempted to go back to BV for the empowered SS damage

[cinder nova]

Should be running BV.

Did you try pushing buttons harder?

[uncut notch]

It feels like I’m pressing revenge every GCD haha

And always angry press

[cinder nova]

Fuck bud that's all I got to offer

[uncut notch]

I have a mechanical keyboard so every key gets apocalyptic smash every time I press

[cinder nova]

Start logging runs so we can judge you

[uncut notch]

Did that once

Never again

[cinder nova]

Got bullied

[uncut notch]

This is now my guild note

And my Rio bio

[uncut notch]

Tbf tho it transformed my tanking

Like overnight I stopped having a hard time

[cinder nova]

Do it again no balls

Or keep doing 9.1 damage

[uncut notch]

Haha nah I still have stuff to work on from the first round

Think I’m going over defensive now tho

[cinder nova]

Can't clear keys dead

[uncut notch]

Too much IP not enough revenj

I have grown to love the pure immortality of banner last stand and ravager

[cinder nova]

NL feels like a glow up

[uncut notch]

I was necrolord when it was shit

And now it just dominates and I love it

I adored kyrian but I’m a full convert

Spear is funny tho but it would just get in the way on sanguine

8 second hard root lmaoooo

[cinder nova]

Yeah it's agony

I just don't take warrior to my keys when I tank because of spear on linguini sanguini weeks

I'd rather eat my foreskin turned to shoe leather

[desert solstice]

what soulbind do we run as NL?

[cinder dirge]

Marileth

[vernal vale]

speaking of logs i had an attrocious theater

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BxkCrYvJX3KTPfAW/#fight=last&type=summary&source=2

[median tulip]

Something like this:

[desert solstice]

thank you. making the swap from Kyrian to NL now

[median tulip]

There are tweaks you can make; whether to take CAS or one of the finesse conduits. Whether the 3rd potency should be AJ, SoF or MBG. But the core of it stays like that

[desert solstice]

i gotcha thank you

[vernal vale]

my blocks are low in that theater but at times i swear the druid was just standing around doing nothing

[urban portal]

Armor fragment is better than sof

And mbg

[median tulip]

By third I mean the one I actually have socketed in the second spot; I have AJ socketed

AAF and VR are lock-ins

[brave stirrup]

@vernal vale when looking at the logs, where am I looking to determine how you did

Like if you say it’s bad, where am I looking to see that stick out

[chrome falcon]

Rage wasted, shield slam casts per minute, blocked hits

Are three of the biggest things

But there’s obviously a ton that goes into it

Whenever I’m checking someone’s log to see what went wrong those are the first 3 things I check

[livid dagger]

Anyone know why the outburst WA in the Pins when i upload it wont show symbols on the WA?

[chrome falcon]

I don’t know how you died on the lich boss though that’s very weird

[rough needle]

what's the fastest way to gain renown if you've alrdy done zm/the campaign for that covenant?

[brave stirrup]

What do you click to see rage wasted

[distant crystal]

resources tab i think

[brave stirrup]

Got it

[median tulip]

Charge and Intervene usage is another key metric

[vernal vale]

my blocked hits are only at like 58-60% and I should be considerably higher, I wasted over 600 rage in that dungeon, I swapped from over using ignore pain to not pushing it enough which leads directly into the wasted rage

[vernal vale]

that lich boss seemed to confuse the druid or something. I was the final one alive every wipe there and no one should have died at all

parasite with no outside help slaps when your also having drain soul put on you which stops your rage gen

it was a horrendous run

[lunar merlin]

So i just got the CoS ring (Jewelled signet of melandrus) it seems pretty strong for prot right?

[median tulip]

I wouldn't turn it down, but I'm not going to go out of my way to farm it either

[lunar merlin]

Still should be better than most 278 rings though right? Expect stitchfleshes misplaced signet

[mighty egret]

if it aint haste vers into the bin it goes

[lunar merlin]

Nah the AA damage makes up for it being crit haste

[mighty egret]

jokes aside yeah its good

[lunar merlin]

Ye i got it with socket too sooooo