No
#protection
chilly brook
chilly brook
Human animations are some of the better ones
ebon geyser
sips on starbucks 
chilly brook
You can’t put humans down
strong forum
Humans are as basic as it gets
strong forum
Literal pumpkin spice latte taste of a race
strong forum
Male nf animations are dog that's true
Okay fuck mechagnome exists
And normal gnomes
But nobody plays those anywau
So they don't count
chilly brook
Okay fuck mechagnome exists
Literally better than vulpera
chilly brook
Auto correct
craggy pilot
how OP would Warrior be if Revenge was off GCD? 🤔 🤣
strong forum
how OP would Warrior be if Revenge was off GCD? 🤔 🤣
Quite
ebon geyser
i though u could be a brown orc without being maghar
strong forum
No
chilly brook
i though u could be a brown orc without being maghar
No
That’s the whole point
Brown orcs are untainted by fel
strong forum
Maghar is orc but worse in every way, but brown
chilly brook
Maghar is orc but worse in every way, but brown
Better visuals
strong forum
Idk
chilly brook
All the hairstyles you ever wanted
strong forum
Every maghar orc tries to become a garrosh
chilly brook
But could never have
strong forum
And thats instantly 0/10
ebon geyser
i wonder if the buff u get can compare to the emo rage of orc
chilly brook
Pale bois
chilly brook
Mount speed thoooo
chilly brook
Don’t they have something about poisons too?
ebon geyser
yes
chilly brook
I need to sleep... Its 1:30am
Boomer
chrome falcon
War stomp and bull rush bis
ebon geyser
but orc is stun immune
chrome falcon
Oh what a coincidence those are both Tauren racists
strong forum
Bullrush so good it can kill you
chilly brook
There was only one time in WoW when Highmountain were goated
Only one time
Legion
Back when you could have warbringer
chrome falcon
All the great prot warriors in history were tauren
chilly brook
And you had a stun that literally wasn’t DR’d
sage yacht
FUCK (male) tauren
do you not want to slap with big slappers
strong forum
Literally the worst race to play
sage yacht
chilly brook
You could lock down mobs so well as highmountain back in Legion
sage yacht
disagree
strong forum
Ugly, too big, bad animations
sage yacht
look if youre talking about female
chrome falcon
But it attracts the best players so who can really say
sage yacht
fuck female tauren
strong forum
Female has better animations and better tmog
And is smaller
So it's infinitely better than male tauren
chilly brook
The only way
chrome falcon
AND YET
chilly brook
And I really mean the only way that Tauren is cool
strong forum
Male tauren is for people trying to compensate their fragile masculinity
chrome falcon
Here we are
strong forum
Btfo'd
chilly brook
Is if they let me slap bitches with a giant ass totem like in WC3
strong forum
chrome falcon
I tried undead for about 10 minutes then instantly swapped back when I pressed my war stomp hot key and died to chaos bolts 2 seconds later
ebon geyser
decisions
ebon geyser
Haha ty
dapper coral
Vulpera's nose for trouble is pretty strong for M+
scenic mural
Mag har is awful warrior race
dapper coral
Nose was usually like 13-15% of my healing for a given 15+ dungo in S1 and S2, probably less now due to rage surplus
limpid pawn
what's the best way to get the best value from necro banner?
whole sphinx
Highmountain greatness ftw
chrome falcon
@limpid pawn press it and extend it
If it happens to line up with groups CDs cool
But no biggie
limpid pawn
the necro banner sims, not a lot of really meta classes are god tier except fire mage
dapper coral
the group buff part of it now is whatever tbh
press it, keep it up, do big dam (and also get a decent chunk of defensive buffs during it), and get carpal tunnel
Last Stand turns into an even better dps CD w/ the condy during it too
one Outburst SS is almost a full rage bar during it
ebon geyser
Mag har is awful warrior race
I keep hearing that . I think is between orc and fox
median tulip
The difference between any of the races is miniscule
dapper coral
400 mastery, up to 22% STR (w/ 278 condy), and 4 rage/sec. It's a lot when you consider it can have a near 100% uptime
dapper coral
necro lego
mighty valley
extends as long as you keep getting and spending rage
dapper coral
ye. 2 and 4p help a ton in terms of extra rage from Outburst
mighty valley
keep pulling and you can def keep it up til next cast
and most bosses in m+ have no downtime, real easy to keep it up on them forever
dapper coral
M+ you'll probably have more drops compared to raid bosses, but it'll be up more than it's not (versus the pre-lego 12.5% max uptime)
A lot of the time, especially under buffs (Vy, Urh, Lust, procs, etc), you're essentially just spamming IP and Revenge and weaving in the SS when it resets
safe thistle
i prefer staying kyr over necro for keys the utily pack it comes with is way better.
real fossil
so the sheild off first boss is ass huh? like would a 262 be better than a 265
Sepulcher's Savior .?
livid dagger
What is more important? Haste or Vers for tanking?
median tulip
Haste
Sepulchre's Saviour is an ok shield; it's nothing special, but it's not exactly bad
real fossil
its active did .7% of my damage and 2.6% healing in a key
and it gives up like 90 secondary stat
median tulip
It comes with bonus block rating though, which is incredibly rare
real fossil
its a fairly low block increase according to wowhead comments, idk how useful that is
chilly brook
so the sheild off first boss is ass huh? like would a 262 be better than a 265
Shield is fine
It’s better defensively, worse offensively when compared to same ilvl
Overall it won’t matter much, run what you got and is the highest ilvl
mighty valley
you can probably eke some value out of the active switching if you really really really tryhard but you really just want it in defense mode all the time
urban portal
tho im curious if its just more defense if you had a shield with vers on it
or something
cinder nova
...I THINK MY SIGIL TRINKY IS CRASHING ME
chilly brook
you can probably eke some value out of the active switching if you really really...
The damage mode is ass
As per jakey
real fossil
you can probably eke some value out of the active switching if you really really...
this is such a trap lmao
mighty valley
yeah i'm more thinking about real tryhard stuff like switching near the end of one pull when defense doesn't matter just so you can open the next pull with the switch into defensive, but it'd be easy to fuck yourself and the max possible gain is tiny
real fossil
even in tryhard stuff its a trap
mighty valley
think they were nervous to tune it to be the bis shield over the higher ilvl one
cmon, give us a cool shield that's overpowered
just once
waxen lark
is anyone else having an issue with taunting halondras on heroic+ in p2?
for some reason i cant take aggro from our other tank
dapper coral
not here. I could imagine if you did swaps in an awkward manner, it may make him taunt immune. I believe you can check the logs if that were the case
waxen lark
i see ill bring it up to see what will work, thank you
waxen lark
weve ended up popping our damage cds to take aggro from one another but its strange that we cant take it with taunt
hollow hill
Oh we didn't have that issue, just a couple times where we definitely hit taunt but he snapped back to the other tank so they got 2 beams in a row
waxen lark
yeah thats the issue we are having
we have stopped taunting during beam cast and it fixed it
hollow hill
oh interesting
lilac bloom
having issues with DOS 14 with the first set of adds and the 3rd ones.. those magic damage are horrible.. and cos of fort and bolster week make things alot difficult
Is there anything i can do about it
scenic mural
You kite the small ads in forst pull they have a melee cast. If you kite them they dont cast
lilac bloom
yah i have been kiting.. then was ok.. but 3rd set of adds with the death speaker
that hurts
the most
either i die from first group or from 3rd group.. i'm not sure what else to do other then run away.. but as soon as i run or move.. their spells or whateva kept hitting me hard
scenic mural
Idk i just usally cycle my cooldowns and kite and it does the trick
scenic mural
I usually have all cds for it
Are you guys focusing the deathspeaker or bolstering it?
lilac bloom
probably no
mighty egret
gross
thick charm
Hi guys May I know if I have 4 pc tiers what talents and cov should I go for?
ruby locust
hows prot feel after the buff out of curiosity
civic torrent
Shield from first boss is pretty good, it's equivalent to a 285 shield if you leave it in defense mode (which you should)
limpid pawn
best halls path this week?
green laurel
https://murlok.io/warrior/protection/mm+ - Best source of info for conduit/talent build? Cheers
hardy ridge
Playing venthyr on mythic desausage is such a feelsbadman
cinder nova
mfw a rogue tries to open me and I turn around to rearrange the topography of his skull with a 50K SS
chilly brook
First key as a tank in a long time
Ran as necro
shit is hilarious
back to back banners
literally unkillable in banner
at least in a 15
ionic fern
https://murlok.io/warrior/protection/mm+ - Best source of info for conduit/talen...
Any guide.
We pretty much have a "cookie-cutter build" for talents and only specific Conduits that are worth using.
drowsy scarab
What Dungeon was that?
chilly brook
What Dungeon was that?
Mists
tawdry dirge
are there anywhere sims necro vs kyrian vs NF?
green laurel
@chilly brook cooldown on banner 2mins right? So pretty much every other pack I would assume?
ionic fern
Extend it with Glory.
chilly brook
<@133532617940140032> cooldown on banner 2mins right? So pretty much every other...
no
I was having it up for over 2m at a time
just have to chain pull
green laurel
Sorry never tried it. How does it work, you dump it down and then pull mobs back to it?
chilly brook
Extend it with Glory.
honestly this is way more fun than the BFA feedback loop
green laurel
Ah cool. Is that tooltip wrong? Just how your explaining suggests it last longer than 15 seconds .
Apologies if I've mis understood
chilly brook
Ah cool. Is that tooltip wrong? Just how your explaining suggests it last longer...
Glory legendary
the covenant one
green laurel
Ah that's what I was missing! Cheers
chilly brook
ionic fern
honestly this is way more fun than the BFA feedback loop
Jeah, everyone i've talked with have said that this is one of the most fun iterations.
oblique garnet
Jeah, everyone i've talked with have said that this is one of the most fun itera...
Stop making me want to tank m+ again
tawdry dirge
whats an avarge uptime with banner in m+
oblique garnet
90~%
ionic fern
I mean.."average" if you take all people into consideration is probably like ..20%? 😂
mighty valley
varies a little since some dungeons have more forced downtime between pulls than others... but you can get it real high if you work at it
ionic fern
Play what ever you want except for Venthyr.
In raids NL is the "go-to".
In M+ it's more lenient.
shell shale
And nf if you somehow don't have an nf goer in your group.
tulip kelp
What’s best m+ trinket combo? I have 272 phial, OPc, and scale
chilly brook
whats an avarge uptime with banner in m+
For a normal group like 70-80%
Also depends on the dungeon
If you can pull like a madman and your group doesn’t keep taking dirt naps because of it you can easily hit 90% or more
jagged pier
can keep banner up from first pull of streets to when u go right or left if u play correctly
chilly brook
YMMV I’ve only done like 2 keys as necro
jagged pier
What’s best m+ trinket combo? I have 272 phial, OPc, and scale
opc has never been good for prot
chilly brook
But uptime was very high in mists
jagged pier
YMMV I’ve only done like 2 keys as necro
chilly brook
Only dropped when healer didn’t do maze
jagged pier
its really fun and easier to play than kyrian
chilly brook
It’s hella fun
I feel immortal when it’s up tbh
So much rage
So much IP
So much healing
jagged pier
chilly brook
And good damage too
This has convinced me to tank keys again
Haven’t been having fun in keys as fury
jagged pier
chilly brook
Something about dying because tanks don’t hold aggro this season isn’t fun
And doing 8-10k on dungeon bosses is hilarious
As a tank
Maybe it’s time to make a return to form @jagged pier
jagged pier
:POG:
jagged pier
😮
u get my kill videos and thats enough
but im just a scuff version of sense
so may as well watch him
chilly brook
Lol
jagged pier
like we killed lithium battery last night, and i saw sense was playing necro on that this week
chilly brook
I meant I could reprise this old gem https://youtu.be/p4M73w_EOH4
chilly brook
Except it’d be 9.2
jagged pier
guess it was only my third pull as necro
chilly brook
jagged pier
nah its relevant
jagged pier
well i wont beat him but i can get closer to his level
like artifcer last night was ahead of rank 3 by about 1k dps, but behind sense by another 500 dps
chilly brook
I definitely will say I think Kyrian is better for like DoS
At least with the routing I was doing
So many Wo skips and some weird downtime between packs
chilly brook
It’s goated in Arden
Outside of that? Not so much
But it’s probably the play on tyrannical
The damage you contribute is too good
blazing condor
Trueing
jagged pier
nah its fine just be rdy to loose it tbh
chilly brook
I havent done a fort dos this season <:okayge:917646812519739433>
Did one tonight just an 18
Scuffed it pretty hard
Like 24 deaths
Still missed the timer by only like 1 minute
We scuffed frogger
It wasn’t cool
Finished muezallah as top dps
I’m doing a lot better about not backing myself into a corner where TC is the only thing up when outburst pops
Overall kinda excited to do mythic plus as a tank again
tulip kelp
Is there any way to get reprisal leggo besides spinning the wheel on random or waiting for the torg wing?
tawdry dirge
If you can pull like a madman and your group doesn’t keep taking dirt naps becau...
nice thx
chilly brook
Is there any way to get reprisal leggo besides spinning the wheel on random or w...
Sure
By random I assume you mean the buy this get random Lego thing?
Cuz you can just go to Twisting Corridor layer 3
And reroll that until it’s the right wing
sweet summit
ye
tulip kelp
How do you reroll? I hate torg
chilly brook
Hop in
blazing condor
Hop out
chilly brook
I think you have to do the first floor?
tulip kelp
Like right now it says FC or Mort.. I don't need to wait for Twisting Corridor?
sweet summit
tc is always open
tulip kelp
Hmm ok
chilly brook
To get the recipe
tulip kelp
So queue for FC?
chilly brook
You can literally speed run the fuck out of layer three
mighty valley
you don't need to do the floor to reset, just keep zoning out and in until you get the right wing for reprisal
mighty valley
and torghast is a joke now, you can just walk to the floor boss, kill, move on
chilly brook
Like layer 3 of twisting corridor is like
Ilvl 190
You basically one shot everything
tulip kelp
Sweet I'll try it out now
tulip kelp
So.. do I need to get to level 18 on layer 1, then layer 18 on layer 2, and then layer 18 on layer 3 to get the legendary?
sweet summit
floor 3 layer 3 or higher is first boss that will drop it iirc
tulip kelp
I've never done it before so I have to finish all 18 levels to unlock layer 3 right?
sweet summit
but if you have not unlocked layer 3 you will have to do all 18 floord on layer 1 and 2
tulip kelp
Fuck me
tulip kelp
Those are conduits right?
trim bay
hey guys. whats good out burst up time? or whats good up time to have in a key
jagged pier
why would u want outburst uptime u want to get rid of it as fast as possible
orchid frigate
do i need to do chapter 4 on all my chars that needs to create tier pieces?
ionic fern
As much as possible.
There are so many variables to this starting from your pulls/CD usage / dungeon etc.
trim bay
59 applications in 28 minutes
trim bay
omg
ionic fern
Erga's 22 mist
jagged pier
oh mists no down time
ionic fern
jagged pier
but we had mega downtime
sweet summit
ionic fern
I wanna see a Erga vs Jakey showdown in m+.
sweet summit
1v1 me jakey
blazing condor
🍿
jagged pier
1v1 me jakey
you'd win u have zoomer fingers
sweet summit
blazing condor
ionic fern
😂
jagged pier
👴
blazing condor
when 5 prot tho
sweet summit
same as long as i'm not raiding 
west walrus
blazing condor
i have yet to try em + seismic
sweet summit
i've played a decent bit of glory seismic
but havent done em seismic
i juse default to necro now
since its the most fun personally
blazing condor
still only like 60 renown in necro crba
sweet summit
crba
blazing condor
probably gonna dive into it when i get pieces
jagged pier
you'll want necro for 5 prot btw as banner stacks
sweet summit
does it even stack higher than twice
jagged pier
🤷
sweet summit
i'm not sure it does
jagged pier
but u can get double on everyone
sweet summit
personal banner+one external
strong forum
still only like 60 renown in necro crba
Doing ZM campaign gets you all the way from 40 to 80
I know cuz that's how I got my necro up
blazing condor
i did that the first like 3-4 weeks lol
strong forum
I spedran that last Friday
blazing condor
but then i forgor ☠️
strong forum
4.5hrs of sleepy boredom
blazing condor
blazing condor
y
sweet summit
rune
blazing condor
just do mission table
sweet summit
just do dn
blazing condor
i would if i could
sweet summit
blazing condor
sweet summit
jagged pier
west walrus
blazing condor
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sus word today
novel raptor
Hey guys, just coming back to wow on my prot warrior, mainly playing m+, I was wondering what does make warrior tank less popular ? is it utility ? taking too much damages ? not doing enough damages ?
west walrus
Because of tier lists
sweet summit
mostly because of how the spec works
it's not as flashy with huge hps numbers, nor does it have insane group utility
warrior is in a great spot atm
altho not meta
sidenote @blazing condor 
novel raptor
okay, I dont mind about the meta, I just want to able to tank correctly, also, why are people playing both Kyrian & Necrolord ? What is the advantages of each ? Is one more defensive or does more damage ? I felt like Kyrian was about more damage but playing necrolord a bit, I feel like it has great potential for that as well, not even counting the mastery you bring to your party
strong forum
Precisely
Kyrian is easier to play and alot of dmg, necro really pops off with 4pc and optimal play
novel raptor
yeah, I feel like the set bonuses are underrated, it looks amazing to me, I don't have it yet tho, I feel like booming voice + set + necrolord with anger management looks like a solid build
sweet summit
it really is
feels great when you pull it off properly
getting insane banner uptime in m+
it's just uhhh
worse than 75% strength (dk) and 1 billion dps (bear)
novel raptor
Oh I see, but probably more fun tho
ionic fern
Super fun.
ionic fern
What does Exalted get you?
sweet summit
rune
sweet summit
infinite rune
ionic fern
sweet summit
infinite rune tho
sweet summit
but 18 strength
ionic fern
No.
sweet summit
ionic fern
If they gave it to me for free, sure.
But i cba doing ZM.
And farming exalted
And WQ's
And all that pointless crap.
sweet summit
they are free if you ignore the rep grind and the gold cost
strong forum
This
sweet summit
torghast
sweet summit
i'm not sure
craggy pilot
oh, it requires Honored 😦
strong forum
Powerful
strong forum
Is there any reason to do torghast in 9.2 at all
I feel like there's no reason to go there
Which is good
sweet summit
cosmetics from that i guess
ebon geyser
Yo@strong forum u saw my beautiful faces
craggy pilot
i guess you just farm Cosmic Flux up to 3k and spend it on legendaries?
but then you will be scuffed for Tier pieces :<
tame jasper
Is there any reason to do torghast in 9.2 at all
New achievements:)
strong forum
Yo<@192743144276623360> u saw my beautiful faces
Hm?
strong forum
Ah that you mean
ebon geyser
And all that pointless crap.
Preach son
And fox is just tempting after u guys mention the nose
Thing
trim bay
pocket protoforge yay or nay
strong forum
Nay
craggy pilot
lol Sense running Seismic in 20s 😄
craggy pilot
"geared" i guess meaning 4 piece 🤣
craggy pilot
im just too scared to do it myself 😄
vocal geode
What does Exalted get you?
infinite rune tho
I get it on saturday
missing 1.5k rep or so
only thing I agree with @sweet summit on
ionic fern
Think the only time i ever used runes was when i was tryharding raids for rankings.
ionic fern
👍
strong forum
Eh
Accurate is the wrong word
In mists and SD we can usually get the biggest numbers
Because SD has alot of trash, and mists has only very few bosses
craggy pilot
SD has also 50% dmg bonus
strong forum
Well yeh if you have a venthyr
strong forum
Halls is the least accurate because its the least prot friendly dungeon
primal cape
do banner have a range?
strong forum
15ish yards
uncut notch
just got my asshole expanded by a halls
any tips for surviving the pure onslaught of casts and bleeds?
I genuinely think i spent more time kiting than actually doing damage
and i was taking 20k dps at spikes
median tulip
You need your DPS to be handling those obliterator casts
uncut notch
the bolstering was just drilling me
It was only 17 but felt 2x harder than anything id ever done before
median tulip
It's not a pleasant dungeon on bolster; too many variant HP pools
uncut notch
Its funny because even my ppal friends were wincing their way through it
and they hard counter a lot of mechanics in there
so i took 5.6k dtps overall
Of which 2k was melee
Can you guys look at this please and just tell me - am i missing something because 70-80% mitigation on melee and physical seems good and the magic stuff is 20/30. Is there nothing i can do about that outside of spam IP/SR/SW?
What do your guys splits look like?
trying to work out if i was fucking up or if the DPS just werent on it enough with interrupts and such
craggy pilot
😄
chrome falcon
Uhhhh… that’s pretty atrocious from your whole group
craggy pilot
i was like "100 sounds a bit high" but ye wth 😄
uncut notch
it was just a pug group, but some of them were doing good enough damage that i would expect them to know how to interrupt
craggy pilot
just do a new details window that tracks Overall Interupts
then you can see if you have pepega grp
chrome falcon
I always tell my groups at the start of the key that I will handle the first 2 casts of wicked bolts
First with SR second with shockwave
jagged pier
i mean cant tell much at all without u actaully linking the log
chrome falcon
And then they can start kicking
craggy pilot
random +20 key log i found
chrome falcon
Not optimal but good enough for the average pug
craggy pilot
46 hits
tropic linden
Hey, Jakey uploaded a video, go check out and maybe he can live off youtube one day
tropic linden
uncut notch
random +20 key log i found
So you have slightly higher mitigation on magic
craggy pilot
So you have slightly higher mitigation on magic
fyi its not my log
chrome falcon
It’s nothing to do with your mitigation though that could probably be improved
craggy pilot
just random i found on warcraftlogs
uncut notch
I tried to interrupt as much as i could
craggy pilot
its not only you who needs to interrupt tho
just run the dung again with different people, you will get a good run eventually
thats how it is with pugs
50/50
chrome falcon
Well that’s bad advice
uncut notch
I have a halls 17 key so will see how it goes
chrome falcon
Link the actual log so we can see what happened
craggy pilot
Link the actual log so we can see what happened
well that too 😄
chrome falcon
You might be absolutely awful regardless of what happened we can’t tell from just one picture of the log
uncut notch
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GahdLWkqRcgQDyZv/#fight=last
Idk if this will work pls dont roast me too hard
strong forum
Damn
jagged pier
your running inpending victory
chrome falcon
HR is already bad and it’s even worse in HoA
jagged pier
your casts are uuber low
craggy pilot
your running inpending victory
no he isnt?
jagged pier
the conduit he is
craggy pilot
ohhh the conduit
chrome falcon
Yeah that’s a craaaazy amount of wasted rage
craggy pilot
no idea what the lock interrupt is called, if they even have one
chrome falcon
Nah we don’t need to look at the other people in the key anymore lol there are more pressing things here
craggy pilot
Nah we don’t need to look at the other people in the key anymore lol there are m...
😄
where do you see the 1000 rage wasted?
chrome falcon
You cast 16 SR which also feels low
craggy pilot
Resources > Rage
ah thx
ebon geyser
1000 rage wasted
Spreading positivity early in the morning
chrome falcon
Also cast intimidating shout once the entire key
craggy pilot
kinda wanna try to log a run to get roasted by the discord
chrome falcon
Which is fine unless you’re dying to wicked bolts
craggy pilot
but my PC keeps lagging when i try
tropic linden
but my PC keeps lagging when i try
I mean, WoW does the log. U don't need a 3rd party program to do it
craggy pilot
I mean, WoW does the log. U don't need a 3rd party program to do it
yea i think it was the live logging i was trying 🤔
tropic linden
Nah, no need to be fancy
craggy pilot
dont i need to do /startlogging or something?
tropic linden
Only if ur doing raid and want to see something after a wipe
Method Raid Tools start the log when u enter a raid/M+
but there is also a command
west walrus
command is /combatlog
tropic linden
which i don't remeber
west walrus
same to start / stop logging
craggy pilot
same to start / stop logging
ah thx
west walrus
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west walrus
If you are lazy like me, addons like Method Raid Tools logs automatically for you
If you setup to do so
tropic linden
https://articles.warcraftlogs.com/help/getting-started
@craggy pilot
ebon geyser
This tier crafting need to start now
uncut notch
just doing something irl then will post questions if thats ok
craggy pilot
questions is perfect
ebon geyser
@jagged pier I rather have renowned skip to 60 to be honest since I'm lazy
jagged pier
same
wild hemlock
kinda wanna try to log a run to get roasted by the discord
same lol
jagged pier
its not about being roasted, imma just not gunna sugar coat mistakes
mistakes that we all make btw
like for instance in a log i looked at of myself i wasted 400 rage, but i generate nearly twice as much rage in my dungeon
wasting 400 is still bad
ebon geyser
One tier a week probably And I feel putting a m+ piece might be more beneficial that a play 252 since I think u can keep upgrading the tier
chrome falcon
Yeah if someone sent me one of my logs under a different persons name I’d probably flame the shit out of them
wild hemlock
buffed spell reflect is amazing on the last boss in TOP wow
dawn canyon
hollow dove
Whats the though on into the fray (or even unstoppable force) over ravager for 4set kyrian M+?
jagged pier
no
craggy pilot
ye i just referenced it for leech 😄
strong forum
The leech is defo good for healers, but it's up to you if you wanna trade it away or not
craggy pilot
its enha sham
sweet summit
real
craggy pilot
😄
craggy pilot
trying to upload my log now ❤️
wait wth 🤦
im 100% sure i enabled this last season :<<<
fuuuuck
west walrus
Did you reset anything ?
craggy pilot
no 😦
uncut notch
Ok im back.
craggy pilot
yikes, just wasted my time in a +15 gambit then kekw
double chested it even 😦
10k dps
beat a fucking boomie on dps ❤️
ebon geyser
Noice
uncut notch
its not about being roasted, imma just not gunna sugar coat mistakes
I will say before i ask my q's tho - All you guys did was point out and laugh at a bunch of things i did wrong, with limited suggestions on alternatives. Rage cap is obvious i admit but conduits and talents maybe not.
So its a bit of a 50/50 between roast and help
BUT alas. my q's
craggy pilot
indelible victory is literally the worst of all the Endurance Conduits
just swap it with anything else
tbh i forgot which ones you were using
chrome falcon
let him ask his questions
craggy pilot
let him ask his questions
❤️
uncut notch
- you called me out for using HR with 2 set - I was of the understanding that you used AM with 4 set because of the shortened avatar pop/rage generation increase? I dont see anything in the 2 set that moves it away from HR being fav
chrome falcon
nope
craggy pilot
always AM
chrome falcon
HR bad especially in HoA where all the damage is magical that you're scared of
chrome falcon
AM has been the play for this whole patch and most of last patch unless you're pushing so high that 1 unblocked melee kills you
switch to AM now and never look back
craggy pilot
the extra rage from Tier gives huge value for AM
uncut notch
Q2 - Indelible victory - all the endurance conduits outside of focus and stalwart seem giga bad
chrome falcon
not really, condensed anima is fine
uncut notch
fuelled by violence is fractions of a hps, and anima sphere has a long cd
uncut notch
Well i was reading on reddit that the key to warrior hps was to just execute and victory rush as much as possible
craggy pilot
fuelled by violence is fractions of a hps, and anima sphere has a long cd
10 sec is long CD? 🤔
chrome falcon
anima isn't amazing or anything but it'll do a good amount of healing over a full run and required 0 thought or globals from you
uncut notch
10 sec is long CD? 🤔
comparatively
chrome falcon
ok first off we're gonna stop reading reddit
craggy pilot
Brutal Vitality is good option also
chrome falcon
and second, we don't care about padding hps
craggy pilot
with the amount of IP we have now
uncut notch
and brutal vitality seems like fractions of value
uncut notch
with the amount of IP we have now
idk man lets say youre doing 10k overall, thats an extra 1k, is that really high value given the rage generation and tier bonus?
chrome falcon
you had 2.6 IP casts per minute so yeah if you literally never press IP brutal vit is going to be terrible
uncut notch
I'll swap to anima sphere and have a go
uncut notch
you had 2.6 IP casts per minute so yeah if you literally never press IP brutal v...
this leads nicely to my next point actually
uncut notch
Oh shit, okay equipping now
chrome falcon
regardless, your third endurance conduit choice is all but irrelevant anyway
uncut notch
So lets talk IP
I asked a few months ago, whats the point in IP
And was told only cast it when capped
Has the recent buff "fixed" it
uncut notch
Or is there value in popping it
craggy pilot
the only value is AM & Tier
uncut notch
you overcapped 1k rage
I know exactly why thats happening
craggy pilot
the defensive value is also there, but not as big as SB
chrome falcon
so even if it were correct to "only cast IP when capped"
uncut notch
If I pop spear and ravager together it just launches through the roof
uncut notch
so you mash IP
More value than just keeping revenge going?
craggy pilot
smash that IP button when your rage goes jumpy
Revenge is GCD
just keep enough remaining rage for Revenge
uncut notch
So theoretically
craggy pilot
and Revenge is also free when you Charge/Intervene
uncut notch
Rvg - ip - rvg etc
strong forum
It's better to mash and cap IP, than waste rage by not using it...
strong forum
You want to fuel the rage engine constantly
uncut notch
Okay cool
chrome falcon
don't IP yourself down to 0 rage if you don't have ravager/outburst to jump you back up to 60
but absolutely definitely never overcap that's the most important rule after block uptime
also like
IP isn't good defensively
uncut notch
Hint, use anger management
yeah we covered this in q1
chrome falcon
but you do need to press it to stay alive...
uncut notch
So thats a nice segue to q3
Rage
Do you have like a line of "Try to stay above 40" or whatever
uncut notch
or do you just do whatever
okay thats kind of how ive been trying to do it, but when i burst with spear, ravager etc it can cap easily and its hard to keep up spending, ill weave in more IP's
aaaand Intimidating shout
sturdy sable
Generate spend and have rage for block
uncut notch
We're just using that as a castbreaker right?
uncut notch
Essentially another shockwave
chrome falcon
intimidating shout is just an aoe interrupt
chrome falcon
like if you have ravager down
and you're 60 rage
just IP
you'll still have enough rage to hit revenge afterwards
uncut notch
Okay cool, lots to think about
Thanks team
Appreciate you taking the time to explain and not just blasting me haha
craggy pilot
when i enabled combatlog in ++15, i was lagging when a lot of stuff is happening
chrome falcon
also cast SR more
craggy pilot
anyone had that happen before?
uncut notch
also cast SR more
Yeah, gonna make a ping wa when it comes off CD
chrome falcon
yeah i'd definitely recommend having all of your abilities on your bars
pallid musk
Maybe alt shift on interrupt pummel as a option
chrome falcon
that's a good plan
pallid musk
I do have action bar equiped but yea
strong forum
when i enabled combatlog in ++15, i was lagging when a lot of stuff is happening
Can't say that I have
granite anvil
when i enabled combatlog in ++15, i was lagging when a lot of stuff is happening
Me2. Cant log M+ without some minilags
strong forum
That would do it
sweet summit
you don't have anything from this season
chrome falcon
sir
jagged pier
sir u have nothing recent
chilly brook
@strong forum what soulbind were you running on your necro sim yesterday?
strong forum
Margret
jagged pier
that being said you were running SoF and ravager in raid
strong forum
Heirmir also Sims really well tho
chilly brook
Yea I ran bonesmith in keys yesterday
strong forum
Marge gives you really good conduit spread whereas Heinz offers better stats and more execute dmg
granite anvil
gonna be the only non dwarf tank in a few weeks
sturdy sable
Lmao
ebon geyser
So I can play with jakey 
sturdy sable
Im ally and im still considering going back dwarf
dawn canyon
can we steal one of yours for a 4 warrior top
sturdy sable
Melds just so good
ebon geyser
I love alliance and it might make me reconsider all of my toons if I can play alliance with my horse guild
So is 9.2.5 next week then
craggy pilot
wtf my log still dont work 😦
strong forum
craggy pilot
"remember to delete the file or it will reuse this one" 🤦
10k dps again and double chest
fuck
hollow hill
Everyone going dwarf just for stoneform?
strong forum
I would be going dwarf for aesthetics alone
Been dwarf since wrath
Forced into horde in bfa cuz no people on alliance
Can't wait to go back
granite anvil
as much as i love dwarfs and i love my classic dwarf, i really dont like the "new" male running animation...can only play female dwarfs ever since they updated it
strong forum
Ya the old running animation was indeed better
ebon geyser
Can't wait to go back
My man
granite anvil
I love whenever I met the first dwarf in Lost Ark and it was like....100% Warhammer
ebon geyser
But dwarf is bis
I agree human is BiS
strong forum
Bro... The ending cinematic of yorn tho...
Was too much Disney for me
Way too much Disney
vernal vale
I like dwarf. Been night elf forever just for the chance to not be hit.
granite anvil
imagine NOT playing dwarf for another racial
sturdy sable
I like being able to mount on demand
sick sentinel
how much of your guy's overall is coming from revenge? I feel like i'm definitely pressing it too much and am squishy as fuck
sick sentinel
I mean it is
chrome falcon
if you feel squishy it's probably not because you're revenging too much
sick sentinel
like dmg is fine is more I feel super squishy
chrome falcon
unless you're revenging so much you can't SB
sick sentinel
yeah I think thats the issue
strong forum
Got any logs
sick sentinel
in a mists I just did 35% of my dmg came from revenge and only like 7% was SB
nah didn't log my key but I'll log the next one I do
strong forum
SB doesn't do dmg
sick sentinel
sorry shield slam
strong forum
Shield slam should be your 2nd most dmg
sturdy sable
Shield slam should be 2nd
jagged pier
your for sure not playing correctly
strong forum
Around 20%
chrome falcon
7% SS is very l.ow
you're probably TCing too much
or just not pushing buttons at all
strong forum
15-20% should be from shield slam
lofty widget
Probably not pressing buttons enough so you lsck rage to keep mitigation up
strong forum
^
sick sentinel
definitely not TC'ing that much, only 5% of my dmg
I think i'm just revenging way to much
chrome falcon
i mean
sturdy sable
Well considering slams our main rage generator and hes using it what looks like sparingly we can make the educated assumption that he is not playing correctly
chrome falcon
if you're revenging when SS is up
strong forum
Cuz 35% dmg from revenge is too much
chrome falcon
then yes you're revenging too much
sick sentinel
yeah I think thats the issue
chrome falcon
SS>anything
sick sentinel
revenging with SS up
sick sentinel
and I should IP to dump rage
strong forum
You're prioritising revenge over generating rage, which makes you deal less dmg overall
sick sentinel
if i'm caped and SS is up?
strong forum
Yes
strong forum
Generating rage and not wasting rage is your highest priority
What's your overall dmg
sick sentinel
so becoming tankier will be nice
strong forum
On average
strong forum
That does seem okay
sick sentinel
not doing anything higher that a 17 atm though so low keys
chrome falcon
that's good damage but not worth the survivability hit you're taking
strong forum
Yeah lol you shouldn't feel squishy in 17s
sick sentinel
yeah exactly
sick sentinel
like 17 low enough where heals can just heal through everything
strong forum
Or you're running seismic
sick sentinel
yeah i'm a fury main so I have gear only started prot this week
4 set and around 265-268 ilvl
sick sentinel
only have 15% vers though
chrome falcon
irrelevant
strong forum
Forget about vers entirely
chrome falcon
i only have 11% apparently
strong forum
I have 2% vers
sick sentinel
i'll try focus on not rage capping at all next key I do and using SS on CD
chrome falcon
hot
strong forum
27% crit and 31% haste
chrome falcon
literally at its very base level
strong forum
We GAMING
chrome falcon
all our class is
is 1) SB uptime and 2) generate rage spend rage
do that and good dps will follow
sick sentinel
so basically should aim for 100% SB uptime?
sick sentinel
since you can charge/intervene if you don't have any natural charges left
chrome falcon
no point having SB uptime while the boss is doing a 5 second channel
you're never getting 100% uptime
sick sentinel
oh right yeah you can time it with the auto attacks from trash right?
strong forum
With proper reprisal play you should be able to get 80-85% of blocked hits pretty comfortably
sick sentinel
ah ok
chrome falcon
no don't try to time it on their swing timer or anything
that would be insane
just don't cast it if the mob is already casting
sick sentinel
ah ok
chrome falcon
like third boss SD for example
sick sentinel
yeah thats a great example
chrome falcon
you don't need to SB while she's channeling the aoe
sick sentinel
exactly!
chrome falcon
(but it will make you do more dps so y'know you can if you want)
sick sentinel
that was the first obvious time I didn't press it
ebon geyser
Playing alliance with the horde frens best day ever
radiant magnet