ill try different tonoight
#protection
safe thistle
sweet summit
also
heirmir sim higher for st
if you want to try something more offensively focused
safe thistle
but does the cheat death thing y screw tanking up É
sweet summit
nah, you don't die die until the debuff expires
only thing is, i think you lose your entire resource bar when it procs?
but just don't die and all is well 
safe thistle
ya my new group got nice healer
previous one couldnt get one over 8k hps
i had to go defensive cause healer couldnt keep raid up so i wanted to help that way and it sucks
urban portal
only thing is, i think you lose your entire resource bar when it procs?
save the outburst SS for when you die
instead of using it to live
urban portal
exactly
oblique quarry
are the teir bonuses worth losing 50 ilvl?
sweet summit
ye
fervent harness
have you tried paladin instead???
chrome falcon
chrome falcon
i hope that everyone who voted for the 2 worst wod dungeons for m+ is happy with themselves
autumn pendant
amber herald
choo choo?
chrome falcon
me like train, me no think about what train will be like for a full season of m+ 
straight line dungeon with the literal worst boss ever put into a dungeon
mighty valley
how does anyone have good memories of it beyond "train"
train novelty is going to wear off immediately
foolish
chrome falcon
yeah
and iron docks is going to get broken in half and probably just result in us killing 95% of the trash with the giant balls
and the bosses are ROUGH in there
inland sail
I was hoping everbloom wouldve won
chrome falcon
yup
mighty valley
every time i have the feeling "why don't they bring back dungeons from exp X to m+"
i go back and play those dungeons
and say "oh"
i hate everbloom too tbh
jumping mechanics..... no......
chrome falcon
the first boss of iron docks has a mechanic where you're just not allowed to hit him or he fears you
mighty valley
they're all fine as dungeons you do once or twice on heroic and move on with your life
chrome falcon
the second boss puts up a shield that 1 shots you if you break it
mighty valley
they just didn't design them for endless replayability at all
inland sail
I did CM and was done with em
Dont remember grimrail depot tbh. Only remember some train and a canon
chrome falcon
yeah the spires angels blow
mighty valley
sanguine doesn't bother me
even if i wish they'd just turn off the text boxes for m+
the only one where the story triggers really get in the way is taza streets tbh
just takes a lot more work to convert something that's good as a megadungeon to something that's good for m+
amber herald
there's an addon that get's rid of them
median tulip
Grimrail is lots of tight corridors and AoE splashes
I did it a half dozen times on the TW last week
It's incredibly linear, though
mighty valley
i struggle to believe that tyrannical turret boss won't be pretty awful
median tulip
Yeah. that's not likely to be fun
chrome falcon
RP just needs to be removed from m+ it’s not something that would take a wild amount of effort
I should never be sat still tabbed out listening to a faerie talk during your speed run optimisation mode
tropic linden
I almost upped by 50% my dps after 2 tier
this is insane
is so much IP
So much rage
wtf
A whole new world
mighty valley
It's really wild, the whole thing is such a positive feedback loop
civic torrent
I am extremely aware that this wont last at all once Pika starts pushing - but I'm stoked that I was able to achieve this:
latent pier
I should never be sat still tabbed out listening to a faerie talk during your sp...
motivation for mists: if you time the key you get to rip the fairy's wings off
patent osprey
civic torrent
Bro nothing but respect for you haha, I was lurking in your chat in 9.0 studying the way - so happy to even be anywhere near your level lmao
oblique garnet
https://tenor.com/view/black-panther-killmonger-michael-b-jordan-all-the-challen...
Those are some fighting words right there 
patent osprey
XD
Yall killing it :)
Please own the throne :)
and someone please pray for my 4 set :( I'm so unmotivated to play my war when my Pala and brew have 4 sets :(
oblique garnet
Need motivation to play the game to go for high ranks these days
This tier is rough and long
hollow hill
Just had a 50k shield slam crit on Dausegne. Life is good.
sage yacht
man is pumping
cinder nova
Feels good to clobber for once.
Although I already have pug kids complaining that prot warr is imba
As if NL prot isn't an APM nightmare just to get a taste of that sweet, sweet meter glory
My Kyr pulls are like ~58 CPM
NL is 75 - 80+
But I also get PI'd a lot so it'd probably be less if I wasn't gettin' it poured on
cobalt grove
I've been using shattering throw on her barrier and it chunks the hell out of it
hollow hill
I've been using shattering throw on her barrier and it chunks the hell out of it
Don't know why I didn't think of that
cobalt grove
It slap
I watched her absorb shield go from like 650 to 230k as soon as I heard the ability hit
Mind you this was in arms spec
So I had the assist of colossus smash, avatar, rend, and spear
So she got chunked
Oh and deep wounds debuff
latent pier
Although I already have pug kids complaining that prot warr is imba
even post buff with tier aren't we still kinda mid rangeish on dps? >.>
mellow harbor
loving the necro prot stonks
cinder nova
even post buff with tier aren't we still kinda mid rangeish on dps? >.>
Yeah, hence why PUG kids were the denominator.
They are almost never aware of real metrics, ever.
Even at our peak we're pulling very good ST, but still behind other tanks while putting in like twice the effort to make it so.
People just see a tank in the top 3 (or 1st) on the meter in an ST fight and immediately think the game is broken because they're bad at their role.
Classic blame-shifting mentality that's ever-prevalent in the casual gamer. Everyone better than me is either abusing broken meta or a lifeless poopsock virgin, and everyone worse than me is a subhuman ape that drinks glue for the taste.
tender oyster
Is there a resource to find good routes and overall tank tricks for m+?
vocal bison
Classic blame-shifting mentality that's ever-prevalent in the casual gamer. Ever...
But this is ackshually true, can confirm.
foggy loom
sim
dire sparrow
What's the goto in raid now, Kyrian or Necro with 4pc?
cinder nova
4p Necro if you aren't a chud
Kyrian if you want to avoid RSI because you got weak genes and baby hands
dire sparrow
hahaha sweet, thanks!
mighty valley
hell of a way to say that
cinder dirge
Necro in ST, Kyrian in AoE
scenic mural
anyone got a route for halls they enjoy?
formal forge
sand pebble
anyone got a route for halls they enjoy?
Pull enough % early kill first boss and wo skip to second
median tulip
anyone got a route for halls they enjoy?
This is exactly enough %. I can send you the import if you want it
civic torrent
Here's a simpler route for keys that should work for keys around 15 with average dps
https://wago.io/SniMEsTlB
from Dorki
median tulip
I enjoy the fact that there's a variety of methods to get the required % in MoA, NGL
mighty valley
yeah, similar to temple of gu'zell
median tulip
TBH I wish there were more dungeons; 9/10 isn't really enough for an expansion. Especially when you look back at how many there were in previous expansions
uncut notch
TBH I wish there were more dungeons; 9/10 isn't really enough for an expansion. ...
Esp when you think they have to last two years
Some great ones this expac tho. SD, NW, both brilliant
dark lark
Any dungeon with damage amps are fantastic
sweet summit
SD "brilliant" 
sweet summit
gottem !!!1!
blazing condor
one
fiery veldt
Just started playing warrior again as prot since wod is devastator mandatory? I really don't like losing devistate
Feels clunky to play currently with devastator
blazing condor
Devastator is p much mandatory yes
and its great not having to press it
eventually when you're geared you will be pressing better buttons on every GCD so its nice not having to press devastator
you don't have any downtime that devastate would fill so you just gain from not having it
But that's if you're max level if you're still leveling its fine to have devastate still and go War Machine or something
fiery veldt
I hit 60 not too long ago and I've been reading up on it looks like it gets better with haste
blazing condor
it will
fiery veldt
Just feels bad sitting there waiting to hit something
tropic linden
Prot War is one of the most clunky tanks to lvl up cause u don't have a indom until lvl 40
And poor rage gen
fiery veldt
The rage feels fine but I'd rather not be hitting revenge if I don't have to
dawn canyon
Revenge is huge dam
fiery veldt
I'll keep at it and see how it goes haste is kinda low still just putting on whatever I can atm
dawn canyon
Also gives u back shieldslam which is good
If you ever need help put a log here and the wonderful good pwarriors here can find optimizations
fiery veldt
Maybe that's what I'm doing wrong then lol I'll give that a shot I just read to only revenge when not in danger
I'm not at that point yet lol I just tanked my first 2 of the season which went fine but it was rather slow gameplay
rigid flicker
How much are we maintaining ignore pain now? Seems low for the rage spent.
tropic linden
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rWJqcnKZdCGYV7DL#fight=14&type=casts&source=16
I'm not nearly as good as other prot wars here, but this is a log from yesterday with 2pc
only pressed PI when i was going to overcap rage
And still healed a shit ton
tropic linden
How much are we maintaining ignore pain now? Seems low for the rage spent.
In 95% of cases u only press PI when ur gonna cap rage or for a big spike from boss
fiery veldt
What cov do you guys recommend? I'm currently necro because it looks cool lol
I've read kyrian and fae are the real pumpers though
sweet summit
anything not venthyr is good
fiery veldt
Venth is what I leveled as for like 5 levels condemn sounded cool not in practice though
lofty widget
How much are we maintaining ignore pain now? Seems low for the rage spent.
dont maintain it, press it when you need to dump rage or when taking alot/unblockable dmg (bleeds, magic dmg etc)
blazing condor
Venth is what I leveled as for like 5 levels condemn sounded cool not in practic...
yeah venth is one of those "could-be-cool-but-sucks" things
strong forum
With 4pc tier and 2 leggos you'll spam IP plenty for the sake alone to prevent overcapping
So don't worry much
rigid flicker
Is there a good priority helper(how's hekili)
strong forum
Nah I can't recommend any of that
ionic fern
Isn't Hekili pulling data from APL?
strong forum
No clue
If it does I guess it could help?
That be pretty fancy ngl
But it'll be quite hectic to perform given how much off-gcd work there is
ionic fern
Jep.
strong forum
So between trying to look at what hekili is telling you to do, registering and doing that, you'll lose a few seconds
rigid flicker
Can you maintain Necro using any other Lego than reprisal?
ionic fern
The Wall also works.
strong forum
Works with wall, but reprisal makes it easier
little marsh
our protwarr lord Sense did a 99%uptime in MM skolex
strong forum
This log is with reprisal
little marsh
y
rigid flicker
Yeah without 😂
But thank you.
I assume with reprisal that you need to weave in intervenes
ionic fern
That's how Reprisal works jep.
rigid flicker
Makes sense. Guess I'll need 5p before I can build it though
sweet summit
nah, just make it on boots?
tropic linden
Any tips on this log? First fight with 2pc
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rWJqcnKZdCGYV7DL#fight=14&type=casts&source=16
simple atlas
strong forum
Get pinged idiot
ionic fern
@strong forum
blazing condor
I fell for the announcement one too 
craggy pilot
Get pinged idiot
blazing condor
is there any specific order you do bosses in this season in ToP?
@sweet summit you who know m+ atm
or is it same route different season
sweet summit
wing it bro
blazing condor
sweet summit
doesn't mstter really
just lust first boss, doublr pull in gasflesh area and skeleton man rest is kinda ez
craggy pilot
just lust first boss, doublr pull in gasflesh area and skeleton man rest is kind...
no lust for last boss?
sweet summit
last boss dies to spell reflect now bro
blazing condor
just lust first boss, doublr pull in gasflesh area and skeleton man rest is kind...
ive seen people do that and it makes sense, but do you just commit to stitch boss or backtrack
craggy pilot
can you SR all on last boss? 😄
blazing condor
lust lines up for any boss after 1st
sweet summit
but you likely have lust for last boss too
sweet summit
ive seen people do that and it makes sense, but do you just commit to stitch bos...
i backtrack
duel wing 1st
double pull ljst
the skeleton wibg
then flesh man
strong forum
craggy pilot
in the start i did Lust 1st boss, Skeleton wing insta
strong forum
ima huge gamer
craggy pilot
and didnt have lust rdy for Skeleton boss
strong forum
should i pick the coins?
blazing condor
ez sockets
sweet summit
the route i do pulls a few extra packs in skeleton wing to skip dogshit boms like commandrr and big fleah guy
so it take a bit of time
craggy pilot
ah ok
blazing condor
yeah i used to do that
sweet summit
what enrage
blazing condor
aint no enrage this week
sweet summit
oh yeah just soothe
lofty widget
but they take extra dmg when enraged 😦
sweet summit
but then you can't funnel for as long
blazing condor
im only doing an 18 rn so it doesnt matter what i do but im just curious
knowledge is power
lofty widget
but then you can't funnel for as long
oh you take first 3 with last boss?
sweet summit
ya
craggy pilot
hmm, i guess i can just do PvP room -> Flesh room - Skeleton room - Last boss
lofty widget
yeah true, im playing way too safe 😦
sweet summit
playing safe isn't bad if it means you still time keys
lofty widget
well sure but im not really in danger at any point either
obsidian sand
guys, how do you see protection warrior after buffs this week?
blazing condor
obsidian sand
guide page?
wanton panther
Hello guys, tonight we will try HC Jailer. Any tips for staying alive ?
checking the logs https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/29#boss=2537&difficulty=4&class=Warrior&spec=Protection
it gets me worried I only see 19 people....
strong forum
what worries you?
wanton panther
Is it hard for warriors or guilds wont bother going for him ?
ember token
You see that amount of people as there are no real upgrade (besides 2h) so people not bothered too much
He doesnt hit that hard and using SW on combo is fine enough to survive, maybe ticks in P2 when soaking pillars (far one and healer isnt there)
craggy pilot
is there any other places than last boss TOP where the Spell Reflect buff is insane?
wanton panther
Hakkar
strong forum
3rd boss spires
lofty widget
last boss streets ig
rigid flicker
nah, just make it on boots?
I could just hate replacing 278 with leggo
median tulip
is there any other places than last boss TOP where the Spell Reflect buff is ins...
Every boss in DOS (Hakkar to reduce blood barrier HP, gnomes for... well, lots of damage, dealer for cutting lightning damage, M'Z for soulcrusher)
wanton panther
Piercing barb?
ye its spell reflectable.
sick sentinel
im way more terrified of the ring trash than anything else in DOS
median tulip
This week the trash is reasonable. Fort weeks on the other hand it can be insane
sick sentinel
fortified DOS is instant "aight, i'mma head out" territory for me
lofty widget
fort+inspiring is the most insane in dos
sick sentinel
i cannot imagine a worse time than that lol
median tulip
Those soldiers and their tank chunker are just vicious
sick sentinel
fort sanguine dos is pretty much a literal cancer aids key too, i wish we had delete key function still for those ones
sick sentinel
those are the big skeleton fuckers that enrage at low hp and put a spinny boy down right
sick sentinel
deletes you if hes enraged, those guys scare me and whatever the magic casters are on next pull (dark lotus curve attack)
blazing condor
we timed it
median tulip
You get three of them in that first pull
autumn lintel
anything not venthyr is good
Don't make me condemn you
sick sentinel
first pull those magic casters arent so bad cuz they all come to the bottom of stair well and its contained, no whatever the big guy is that yeets you backing them up
they die instantly and iits just melee guys worried about but they hurt, end up wasting CDS, don't have for second pull
median tulip
That whole first platform has killed more keys than I can count
sick sentinel
its not the first pack, its the second thats most deadly, but if you fuck up on the first pack and wipe, those mobs will come to you and wipe you again and its instant GG
have to save a leap to kite the big guy
even earth ele 2nd pull is just disgusting
median tulip
Best runs I have had featured a hunter; misdirect makes the pull smoother and tranq shotting the warlord's enrage really helps
sick sentinel
its like i dont play wow any more because alot of reasons, but i can say for sure that DOS and HOA are 2 of them
median tulip
I don't mind HoA; it's PF I can't stand
sick sentinel
PF was scary at first, i got less scared of it over time
i fucking hate HOA keys with every fibre of my being
that dungeon drives me crazy
median tulip
ToP on the other hand is basically a free pass of a key
sick sentinel
TOP was "can we clear the teleporter section without having dumb deaths?"
every TOP i failed, died in teleporters
median tulip
Yeah, same
Although if you are really ballsy you can use the yeeting winds to get a free charge to proc Reprisal
sick sentinel
it needed to be if you cleared a platform and your party was at the next one, the starting teleport takes you to where team is, but longer flight path
someone die, release, run back to teleporters, finally back to us, he needs to buff, thats like 4 minutes
median tulip
Yeah, it's a key killer
lime urchin
Y’all crybabies! Bwonsamdi laughs at you!
sick sentinel
All that armor..... didn't help ya much? ... did it?
i know, i've hard it a million god damn times in bfa
median tulip
“What you be doin’ here, mon? It not your time to pass on… yet.”
sick sentinel
That blink didn't get you very far...
median tulip
Bwonsamdi and Jani were the best things to come out of BfA
sick sentinel
i don't remember jani much nvm, that was too much of a throw away quest to be truly memorable and classic, i liked the weapons testing quest from bfa
it was good
craggy pilot
Every boss in DOS (Hakkar to reduce blood barrier HP, gnomes for... well, lots o...
Wdym with lighting?
lofty widget
the debuff that jumps between people
although you should really just deflect the big bomb she does for more uptime
chrome falcon
@median tulip lmao imagine using SR for soulcrusher and not for extra damage during the dance
chrome falcon
No but you get more uptime
You can deflect the dance and not have to run out of range
It’s not the right play
But you CAN do it
sweet summit
you can deflect any of the dance hits
usually the melee one
but soulcrusher is better, and just move for dance
lofty widget
but how else do you charge on that boss?
sweet summit
exactly
lofty widget
actually perfect time during the melee dance
lofty widget
yeah
mellow gorge
oh
lofty widget
it's huge for dps warriostho
median tulip
I always try to SR as many Soulcrushers as possible
mellow gorge
imagine SRing soulcrusher, just parry it
median tulip
Wdym with lighting?
You can use the SR buff for 20% damage reduction while you have the arcane lightning debuff (or any magic damage debuff) on you
craggy pilot
I usually do it for the explosion 🤔
mellow gorge
big brains use it for explosion
giga brain is to use it, then get arcane lightning, then you explode
median tulip
other times to use SR for the 20% magic damage reduction... SD 1st boss for balls, 2nd for the add, 3rd for the damage pulse
PF last boss for the rain
HoA last boss for the Ritual of Woe
chrome falcon
HoA last boss i prefer using it at the end of the stigma to not lose 60% of my hp to one tick of a dock
mellow gorge
i wish we could still reflect stigma 😦
west walrus
Finally got 2p 
blazing condor
pog
sick sentinel
i wish we could still reflect stigma 😦
sigma chamberlain
blazing condor
begone, rabble 
tropic linden
other times to use SR for the 20% magic damage reduction... SD 1st boss for ball...
Don't u reflect the pulse from 3rd boss from SD?
or at least deflect
median tulip
Yes, that's why I said "3rd for the damage pulse"
tropic linden
Oh, i though u were talking about when to use SR for the 20% DR
median tulip
I am
tropic linden
But u just cancel the explosion, isn't it better than DR the pulse?
median tulip
Huh?
blazing condor
when you SR the 3rd boss in SD you don't nullify the initial explosive damage
but you deflect the DoT that follows
median tulip
You do reduce the damage from Rite of Supremacy (the pulse) as well, it's shadow
lime urchin
I like dat boss
We spell reflect the big pulse
And then we block the iron spikeys
Hah, we die not today lady-boss!
median tulip
One of the other tanks in my guild is a Monk, and is all like "oh Iron Spikes hurts so much", and I'm just like "that kinda tickles"
lime urchin
Don’t they just stagger stagger with their fat belly?
strong forum
well stagger doesnt reduce dmg taken
its only moves it
they gotta use buttons to remove the dmg from stagger
jade falcon
hey mates can someone tell me the cap from haste as prot war?
strong forum
40
jade falcon
after i get it i go versa right?
jade falcon
best covenant for m+ is kyr and for raid too?
jade falcon
ok thx mate
west walrus
:')
bold bolt
west walrus
Spread the love !
sick sentinel
thats a nice addon that puts healer dps take beside chatter
so then u see whos bitching
sturdy sable
Lmao thats all i hear when i pug keys "ive havnt seen one of those in years"
sick sentinel
what i would want to change about that is it can detect if that dps spec is primarily a ranged vs melee class, so for melee sword, and hand, and for range, staff shooting fireball and arrow
lime urchin
Or just
Just play the game
Shield block when needed
Keep shield slam on cooldown
Zug zug
Make frens
Drink a beer
agile pumice
:')
every time i invite a prot warrior to a key its a russian who doesnt have shield block bound
sick sentinel
https://raider.io/characters/us/area-52/Tankian this is far as i got
blazing condor
every time i invite a prot warrior to a key its a russian who doesnt have shield...
Maybe u’ll get Sajke one day
agile pumice
one day
sick sentinel
it took TD but i was able to time 15's by end if i tried hard
just.... really nice to delete a mob thats at 18% hp and skip his entire enrage phase
cobalt grove
I swear, it looking like I have a notification in the warrior channel is gonna drive me insane
blazing condor
@cobalt grove
cobalt grove
Lol, I didn't have an actual notification before. The icon just looked like it
coral reef
Guys one qusteion, what about thunderlord leggo and clap build with recent buffs can it be considered or naaah? 😄
strong forum
omega dead
coral reef
i mean a tiny spark oh hope flickered in my head when i saw the ,,buffs '' ^^
blazing condor
bdk damage is so busted rn
coral reef
more then venthyr guardian?
blazing condor
nah probably not
cobalt grove
Damn, touche on the April fool's trolling
tropic linden
Dont forget the giveaway in <#316998725740265474> as well
Damn, i fell for it
blazing condor
Are canisters in PF just dead now? people don't seem to use them in higher keys
strong forum
they dont scale with key level
blazing condor
oh yeah
chrome falcon
they still do fine damage but if there's any risk involved with positioning stuff onto them then it's not super worth it
blazing condor
idk its usually just free damage but some are more limiting than others
like the first pull after 1st boss is pretty free canister-wise
waxen orbit
Who the fuck added a notification to the icon
blazing condor
i did 🙂
waxen orbit
https://tenor.com/view/euphoria-euphoria-hbo-euphoria-rules-jules-vaughn-euphoria-jules-gif-21639834
strong forum
me 🙂
deft hinge
me 🙂
https://tenor.com/view/euphoria-euphoria-hbo-euphoria-rules-jules-vaughn-euphoria-jules-gif-21639834
jagged pier
Who the fuck added a notification to the icon
sweet summit
i don't get it
median tulip
To get to De Other Side, mon
sweet summit
i still don't get it
blazing condor
comedy isn't for everyone, dear
sullen valve
@ionic fern is a bitch
ionic fern
😦
shut summit
sweet summit
I bet Erga is from a Nordic country
sweet summit
Any tips on this log?
you didn't use your earthbreaker trinket
not even once
rest looks fine i think
tropic linden
you didn't use your earthbreaker trinket
Noice
Need to get another trinket
It's such a pain to find the earthquakes to step on in the middle of raid
cinder nova
Fuckin' knew it.
blazing condor
where am i from then?
cinder nova
Fuck, man, I dunno.
blazing condor
im clearly a master of comedy
cinder nova
I just hang out with a lot of Scandinavian dudes and have been for the last like... I dunno, 10 years.
And Erga was giving them vibes.
blazing condor
you seem to have a good sense tho
chrome falcon
tbh if you guess that literally any good wow player is scandi
you're gonna have maybe 70% success rate
blazing condor
scandis are just built differently
the cultural social phobia is great for making computer-warriors
dawn canyon
im clearly a master of comedy
Not Germany then
blazing condor
true
latent pier
so is a maxed out first technique>heroic aegis?
or do I still want to keep the aegis in my bank
strong forum
to max out codex dmg output you need to take a 150k hit
the tooltip on codex is bugged since 9.1.5
latent pier
does it count the damage after mitigation?
latent pier
damn.
strong forum
its physically impossible to max out codex
latent pier
i was thinking more defensively
cinder dirge
12k dps on last boss of ToP 22 jesus christ
you can have almost every single reflect
if you use it slightly before it cast
median tulip
Yeah it's great
cinder dirge
timing is so tight tho
chrome falcon
is it normal for everyone to do just absolute dogshit dps in streets on tyrannical
cinder dirge
there aren't many pack with more than 3 mobs
wow let me rewrite that
guess that's why
(i'm a lefty guy on streets)
scenic mural
Left side best side
chrome falcon
yeah and the boss that lasts 4 minutes
and the other boss that lasts 3 minutes
and... that other boss that lasts 3 minutes
i did 10k and was surprised since i thought i was blasting then saw that everyone else was only doing like 13k so i dunno
mighty valley
i think people still aren't good at the bosses, easy to lose a ton of uptime if you're playing really safe
chrome falcon
dunno it was a group of guildies who i know are pretty good
latent pier
I have not tanked the raid yet, so question
Can you leap the xymox rings
And anduin's wall
chrome falcon
you don't have to but you probably should for mythic
all you have to do is check mythic ranks for that to see why sense is like 1.7k ahead of everyone else lol
sweet summit
sense games hard
chrome falcon
and at least one nf tank is mandatory if you don't have a monk or bdk cotank
sweet summit
we had both monk and dk 
chrome falcon
got rank 12 out of 20 for our first kill because we sat in an intermission for literally 45 seconds waiting for our CR to come up for our warlock
jagged pier
have u tried
u can not
u can NF blink but its very small window
sad Dks canAMS it but we cant deflect it
sweet summit
ye
jagged pier
sweet summit
surreal thunder
this trinket is still bad and everyone hates it right?
median tulip
this trinket is still bad and everyone hates it right?
It's awful
surreal thunder
feel like this trinket would be similar to the codex of the first technique that us blocking makes it do not as much damage as we would be able to
urban portal
feel like this trinket would be similar to the codex of the first technique that...
much worse than codex
armor is possibly the worst stat you can get
sweet summit
this trinket is still bad and everyone hates it right?
surreal thunder
<:literallytrash:752422340150820914>
💩
sweet summit
chrome falcon
you can't buff 90% of the dungeon trinkets into being good
they would need fundamental reworks
and considering they can't even make good tank trinkets in the raid
i don't see that happening any time soon
latent pier
Yeah they need to like
Kick the trinket guy in the balls or something
Wake him up a bit yaknow
chrome falcon
tank trinkets this expansion have been 80% unwearable garbage and 20% wildly overpowered
chrome falcon
still awful
latent pier
It's kinda been the thing since legion
chrome falcon
probably no amount of armour you could give that trinket to make it wearable for us
latent pier
But at least legion had cof and the pantheon trinks
Like there's three trinkets that are good all expac from m+, the rest suck forever and the raid makes the new good ones.
urban portal
probably no amount of armour you could give that trinket to make it wearable for...
if you want to make it good for prot warrior you would amp the damage
if you wanna make it good for vdh or blood dk you would amp the armor
by like 200%
latent pier
How do you go from making aegis and rdm to whatever the shit these tank trinks are
Give me a way to upgrade them with valour and everyone would rather do that lol
chrome falcon
aegis is way too good as well tbh rdm is probably the most balanced tank trinket this whole expansion
urban portal
rdm is balacned yeah
its just a random proc that gives a shield
nothing interesting about it
pale roost
is prot warrior worse then veng? trying to decide between whici one to play. tho i do have 4 set on warrior and only set on dh. 🙂
2set*
wispy tapir
play both?
mighty valley
Sounds like you’re already playing both
chrome falcon
play warrior
amber herald
monk
chrome falcon
do you want to stand next to mobs and fight them or jump away like small baby coward
warrior is only option
plus 
pale roost
well dh is atm my mauin as havoc. just recently started trying out tanking which is alot of fun. but as i got 4set on warrior i thought it might be better 😛 both are fun to play tho 😛
main*
latent pier
I almost picked monk but I like all three war specs and don't care for mistweaver.
And I genuinely don't find dh fun at all
Also the tank meta looks stupid
amber herald
warrior > everything else
chrome falcon
Bfa warrior was strong but astoundingly boring
sweet summit
wrong
west walrus
I did not enjoy BfA warrior
chrome falcon
I could not handle pressing thunderclap that often for fourwhole patches it was way too much
latent pier
I played survival in bod
My 99% parses were equivalent to marksman 40% parses
;.;
Was a great raid though. Easily the highlight of bfa.
Loved reaping too
chrome falcon
Reaping sucked too but not as much as some other seasonal affixes
mossy peak
reaping was great
chrome falcon
Reaping was fine until bug abusing became the meta for dealing with it
Any affix that limits your routing by making shit happen at a certain % is lame
austere forum
So I got 2 piece.. every time I look away I’m at 100 rage…. So I keep mashing SS and Revenge?
sweet summit
press IP
chrome falcon
Yep just blast your millions of rage
But yeah revenge isn’t gonna come close to spending it all so IP too
austere forum
Ahh IP for the buffed SS?
austere forum
Ok.
latent pier
How important is 4set relative to 2set.
I mean I know I want it but I'm huffing copium with the fact I'm still 1/4 so throw me a bone
chrome falcon
Can’t put a number on it but it’s real good
austere forum
The set bonus is every 20 rage spent?
chrome falcon
30
austere forum
Anybody have a good excecute or IP weak aura?
latent pier
Can’t put a number on it but it’s real good
Will I feel like ass only having 2set or is it mostly fine
chrome falcon
dunno bruv i got 4 set second week 🙂
latent pier
dunno bruv i got 4 set second week 🙂
My main has 3/4 and no final pieces dropped for two weeks ._.
lofty widget
not pressing it at 7 stacks of and wasting an outburst proc
jagged pier
yes
austere forum
sad... how about just for trash pulls 🙂
mighty valley
if you wanna constantly talent switch, sure lol
true sparrow
My main has 3/4 and no final pieces dropped for two weeks ._.
Its a wcam to get tanks to queue for LFR
chrome falcon
eh yeah i dunno
game is better for having more dungeons in it
but they're not suited to keys
at all really
blazing condor
it has potential to be fine but it needs a lot of tweaking
chilly brook
tazavesh is a shit addition to m+
it's a good dungeon
would be better with less RP
and 2nd boss in gambit needs to be reworked
chilly brook
other than that
blazing condor
it snowballs like crazy
blazing condor
remove the trade-gauntlet in streets
mighty valley
the rp trigger spaghetti also opens it up to a lot of bugs
chilly brook
wo skip to first boss is super pog
blazing condor
yeah i do that
chilly brook
remove the trade-gauntlet in streets
doesn't bother me as much
blazing condor
it feels good
mighty valley
had people just brick keys on like... the guitar has disappeared and we can't spawn this boss. oh well.
chilly brook
because now I wo skip after first boss, start all the RPs
come back to market
kill the wo mob right before it
and you zoooooooom through the segment
chilly brook
just go haste vers
you could do crit but what's the point
yea you might do some more damage
but vers also gives you some damage and some defense
chilly brook
parry is meme
mighty valley
can't parry shadowcore
sweet summit
gambit is chill if you have a warlock 🙂
mighty valley
can't think shadowcore
blazing condor
gambit is chill if you have a warlock 🙂
y
sweet summit
what y
blazing condor
why
mellow gorge
upgrades.
sweet summit
hidden tech
chilly brook
@patent osprey wanna teach me how to prot pally?
sweet summit
gn
mellow gorge
is there no reason to buy 291 or sm shit?
oblique garnet
hidden tech
Hidden tech of bosses just dying instantly?
chrome falcon
my problem with gambit is the 2 minute flashbang after i portal to stormheim
sweet summit
Hidden tech of bosses just dying instantly?
hidden tech
strong forum
sweet summit
🏃♂️
oblique garnet
Share hidden tech
sweet summit
🙅♂️
strong forum
|| hidden ||tech
strong forum
but hey i got 1 tier piece
strong forum
only 3 more to go
sweet summit
wrong 🙂
chrome falcon
sounds like something someone would say if their hot hidden tech just got guessed correctly
sweet summit
no
blazing condor
it's either used for 2nd boss to make it easier or to dodge the pulses on the last boss ads
chrome falcon
neither of those things are enough to flex about "hidden tech"
blazing condor
but you can just outrun the pulses anyway
chilly brook
Erga just being mean at this point
oblique garnet
but you can just outrun the pulses anyway
🤔its easily dodgeable
blazing condor
thats what i mean
chilly brook
can't be shadowfury
sweet summit
pog?
strong forum
almost choked to death
sweet summit
not pog
chrome falcon
hey he said almost
oblique garnet
tech now
strong forum
half pog?
blazing condor
pc
sweet summit
almost funny
blazing condor
half funny
sweet summit
fur
chrome falcon
i'm gonna take a wild guess that there's a snap spot in stormheim that lets you group like 3 packs of murlocs and evaporate them
blazing condor
owo
chrome falcon
that you need a gateway to reach
blazing condor
:susge:
mighty valley
why are we doing all these jokes on this, the least funny day of the year
chrome falcon
past midnight in EU
blazing condor
not in norway
mighty valley
o true
chilly brook
I think the real warlock tech
sweet summit
0:35 here
blazing condor
how tf are you 30 mins behind me
sweet summit
wrong
oblique garnet
Yeah i think so too
oblique garnet
Soulstone skip?
sweet summit
think outside the box
chrome falcon
nah it's gotta be a gateway
chrome falcon
it's warlocks only unique utility
blazing condor
that and cookies
chrome falcon
it'll be some really heinous degenerate gateway in stormheim 100%
sweet summit
if i reveal it will no longer be hidden 
chilly brook
it'll be some really heinous degenerate gateway in stormheim 100%
yea but why is that even useful
just wo to first boss anyways
it's so free
chrome falcon
every time someone says wo all i can hear is the gnome noise please help me i'm mentally ill
sweet summit
close !!!!!
chrome falcon
oh maybe a gateway that breaks the dragon boss
cold zealot
cheese dragon with gateway?
chrome falcon
a snapping point that snaps the 2nd boss adds in front of the boss
sweet summit
dragon boss doesn't reset 🙂
oblique garnet
Oh
chrome falcon
can't you do that anymore? ^
oblique garnet
No point doing that tbh
tawny ledge
Is there anything showing the APM across all tanks so i can compare?
blazing condor
logs
chrome falcon
i guess bears during incarn press a lot of buttons but half of them are overcapped ironfurs they don't even need so
sweet summit
No point doing that tbh
you don't have to deal with adds or barrage
oblique garnet
I meant on dealer
sweet summit
oh fair
chrome falcon
adds can't follow you up the ledge? or you just kill them all with breath anyway
chrome falcon
gotcha makes sense
blazing condor
i love how they stay true with the BFA-style dungeons with the BFA-part and you can just nullify the encounter by standing outside the arena
just like in SoTS
chrome falcon
thank you for this blessing of hidden tech i will use it only in the most dire of circumstances
chilly brook
does boss follow you up?
chilly brook
for science
blazing condor
can we leap up?
sweet summit
no
blazing condor
sad!
sweet summit
!
sweet summit
unless it got fixed this week without any notes, yes
i mean
you kinda want your entire party to hit the boss 🙂
blazing condor
5 warriors?
chrome falcon
"fixed" implies this is bug abuse and that would be wrong this is simply clever tech
🙂
sweet summit
if this gets fixed i am never sharing any useful tech here ever again 🙂
sweet summit
chrome falcon
tbf if gambit comes up in MDI which it probably will chances are that'll get slammed
chrome falcon
hm i guess
pretty minor one though, wouldn't do it for time trials but might make sense in an actual race
blazing condor
TGP > MDI
sweet summit
helping
mellow gorge
i can't lower it
blazing condor
so higher it
sweet summit
what
sweet summit
so use your highest ilvl gear?
mellow gorge
but mastery is my highest ilvl gear
sweet summit
ok
mellow gorge
and mastery is not cool like haste
blazing condor
ilvl > secondaries tho
strong forum
Okay so when are we doing 5 prot runs
blazing condor
im down
mellow gorge
will people still like me despite only being 23% haste 😦
strong forum
|| so you can trade me all the loot ||
sweet summit
wanna go tomorrow
blazing condor
can during afternoon
sweet summit
sick
oblique garnet
oblique garnet
Its my day off 🤔
blazing condor
vamos
sweet summit
pausechamping irl
oblique garnet
No from wow 
sweet summit
sadchamping irl
blazing condor
just turn ur monitor off?
oblique garnet
Ye thats what ive done
oblique garnet
Went out for a walk made some burgers
sweet summit
yooo
oblique garnet
Slowly turning boomer
sweet summit
love that for you
oblique garnet
Cant change the icon tho
sweet summit
sad
oblique garnet
Only vel and naeno can i think?
patent osprey
<@!133743762999476224> wanna teach me how to prot pally?
I hate that u actually pinged me
Because the Aprils fools thing keeps getting me all day
chilly brook
I hate that u actually pinged me
chilly brook
I'm tryna help shore up the tank shortage for m+ here
oblique garnet
Play warrior pala is bad
sweet summit
baseg
patent osprey
4 set : not Cringe
no 4 set : Very Sadge/Madge/Cringe
chrome falcon
not very much
blazing condor
Why be sadge when you can be pogdge
latent pier
Seismic + em
is the damage from this good relative to other tanks going full mongo
trim bay
What should our average dps look like on a 18+ with no tier set? Im getting like 8.5 average. Is that heaps low?
latent pier
I've only really done it timewalking
blazing condor
What should our average dps look like on a 18+ with no tier set? Im getting like...
Depends on dungeon. 8,5 is fine
chrome falcon
especially on tyrannical where tank dps suffers the most
oblique garnet
is the damage from this good relative to other tanks going full mongo
Its like 15-18k overalls depending on key
trim bay
Depends on dungeon. 8,5 is fine
Ok sweet.
chrome falcon
i want to try full degen bonegrinder with seismic
latent pier
Its like 15-18k overalls depending on key
dayum.
latent pier
i want to try full degen bonegrinder with seismic
did you experiment with that yet?
bonegrinder i mean
mellow gorge
it's alot of damage
chrome falcon
easy pack or nearly dead and you're close to an avatar to refill your rage bar just dump it into whirlwinds
mellow gorge
but hard to pull of no?
latent pier
without reprisal I just feel like I'm fucked if a pull lasts more than 20 seconds
chrome falcon
why are you without reprisal
mellow gorge
reprisal or wall
wall more raid
reprisal is everywhere
seismic if you're insane
chrome falcon
i wore reprisal for exactly 1 key in 9.1 and then just glued glory to my waist for 7 months
mighty valley
true believer
latent pier
Without it how the hell do you live tho
Like my block uptime is awful without it, I'm no pro but goddamn
mellow gorge
they begin to believe
mighty valley
die by the flag
mellow gorge
has anyone tried necro prot in keys yet?
latent pier
imo necro prot feels the best.
blazing condor
More defensively laid though