protection

[patent osprey]

XD

[meager locust]

4p prot feels good so much rage

[uncut notch]

I cant wait to run AM again

[meager locust]

Apm is same if not worse than fury war sometimes

[patent osprey]

inspiring is like the worst prot war affix though

[meager locust]

The vangaurd buff is noticeable. I took 5k damage overall on 20 pf

[patent osprey]

as a tank who can't take magic bolts to the face

[patent osprey]

trueeee i haven't play it with the buffs y et

I didn't get 4 set in my vault and I just logged off

XD

[meager locust]

So much overdumping rage during ravager/avatar

Like u spam that ip sometimes but tthat means more outburst which means MORE IP!

[patent osprey]

dungeons like TOP though, probably feels a little scarier on tyrannical bosses because u dont have as much time of SB

without HR

[meager locust]

I feel top wasnt too bad

Lich boss is scary if dispells isnt handled

[patent osprey]

at a high enough key level, not having infinite SB will feel worse

[meager locust]

Gorechop does chop

[uncut notch]

50k hyperlight bolts lets go

[patent osprey]

any warrior funnelers want to give me tier helm/chest

ty

[meager locust]

20 sec spell reflect means u can reflect all the grim harvest

And first boss knockback off pf

[patent osprey]

yeah streets with prot warrior can be kinda monka with hyperlight bolts on fort

[meager locust]

Grim sctrhe*?

[uncut notch]

reaping scythe

[meager locust]

Youre right

[patent osprey]

giggity

[meager locust]

Streets is the hardest key rn

In high levels

Those adds are insanely strong

[patent osprey]

depends on the tank

its harder cause u need a mix of physical and magic mitigation

[lofty widget]

streets feels fine with a good group

[patent osprey]

I was doing it on a 23/24 i think

and the heavy batons

were pain

hyperlight bolts were pain

[lime urchin]

Life is pain

[chrome falcon]

heavy baton is fucking stupid

that thing hits for 60k on 21 and that's just the magic portion that i reflected

[patent osprey]

Heavy baton is purgable

Make sure to yell at your mages/shamans

and dhs

XD

[chrome falcon]

everyone in my guild plays fuckin female belf anyway

[patent osprey]

my mage friend asked, can you just tank it, i dont want to use 2 globals

DPS aren't people

[meager locust]

They need to reduce rebuffing that baton

[distant crystal]

if it slaps that hard

can the mage just spell steal it and melee stuff

[meager locust]

To like once every ten seconds

[cinder dirge]

yo

does anyone know if urh heals you even if you got necrotic stack ?

[uncut notch]

it might even clear stacks

noticed random stack clearances without me popping phial

[cinder dirge]

i'm lucky enough to be dwarf and cleanse myself with racial so i don't need phial. But it might be a real pain if urh doesn't heal you when you have smth like 30 stack 😄

[chrome falcon]

you guys think ravager or ITF for a 22 tyrannical key

(streets)

[uncut notch]

ravager for rage

[chrome falcon]

yeah idk i guess

i just want more ST damage but

[meager locust]

Ravager does give more st if u have 4p

More rage means more outburst means more fat shieldslams

[chrome falcon]

more haste means more rage too

[meager locust]

But ravager also gives way more aoe dam might cut a few seconds than itf

[scenic mural]

If we are talking about singke target like he mentioned itf is better

[meager locust]

U dont gain much st damage from itf i think compared do dps class but it might means more spammable spells during urh windows

[scenic mural]

You dont gain much ST from ravager either, id much rather have 10% more haste soaming shield slams etc. ravager is the play in m+ mainly because it is an easy aggro builder that gives you a lot of rage directly on pull.

[strong forum]

thing is in m+ youll hardly ever have 5 stacks of ITF on bosses

sooo, yeh

[urban portal]

I thought it counted allies

Or are ranged too far to count

[mighty cairn]

it does count allies

ranged will usually be too far to count tho

[steel mist]

anyone feeling the buff for the prot warrior? like in sturdiness level

[lofty widget]

yes

might just be because of tyr

[steel mist]

i only have one piece

sadge lyfe

[lofty widget]

tyranical i mean

[steel mist]

oh

ok

[mighty cairn]

hard to compare this wk to last wk

[steel mist]

holy shit i need to try it in raid today and dungeons when i get back home

[mighty cairn]

fort to tyrannical and necrotic means you have to kite anyways

[steel mist]

oh shit

its necrotic

[craggy pilot]

damn was just hoping the triple tier set LFR wing was open today... then i realized its next week

fml

[steel mist]

ugggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[lofty widget]

necrotic is pretty much a non issue

[steel mist]

i hate kiting as when my group cant stun the add that empowers the dogs in halls

[lofty widget]

5 sec duration, thats like a shockwave and taking 2 steps back

[vernal vale]

I'm starting to play necro and am finding using fleshcraft at anytime other than before pull to be awkward. Can we block when casting it? It would be really handy when kicks are not happening in dungeons for example.

Dps are bad at that.

[lime urchin]

You don’t block but you do dodge and parry methinks.

[lofty widget]

you can block/parry/dodge etc while channeling yes

[lime urchin]

I stand corrected, yet again

[lofty widget]

was changed in 9.0.5

[distant crystal]

now just add that behavior to urns in DoS and lanterns in SD 🤞

[steel mist]

i find fleshcraft to be very handy in raids

[distant crystal]

also on Gorchop you can fleshcraft and let the curtains pass over you

[steel mist]

when i was tanking malganis and kintessa , mid fight pop that shit

[distant crystal]

if you have that soulbind that makes you immune to cc

[steel mist]

wait is that a thing?

which soulbind?

[lofty widget]

marileth

[distant crystal]

^

[steel mist]

ohhhhh

that one

ok

[vernal vale]

Oh, sweet. I'll definitely be working on finding more use for fleshcraft then.

[steel mist]

thats very nice

[distant crystal]

i only found out cause I got hit by that on my bear and nothing happened

[lofty widget]

it's also nice to just channel as a DR when dps dont feel like kicking

[distant crystal]

cause sleeper legendary + incarn does same thing

[vernal vale]

Ultimate Form is basically always taken anyways do that's gonna be a sweet bonus.

[shell shale]

You can bladestorm through the walls on gorchop too

[vernal vale]

DPS never want to kick because damage meters are all important

[shell shale]

Not saying prot should ever have that

[urban portal]

Ngl

For something called ultimate form

It's quite underwhelming

[vernal vale]

^

[urban portal]

Not saying it's bad or anything

[shell shale]

You can rally and last stand fleshcraft before a key starts

Massive shield going into first pull

And they all get reset

[steel mist]

this is quite good to know

those first pulls are quite try when you group up 3 packs

but then again

dps go brrr and get aggro from me when i pick them up

and my healer doesnt know how to heal a prot warrior since he got used to monks

[shell shale]

I found for most part this season I don't really need healing unless i pull like 3 packs and just stand there with 50 stacks of necrotic

[lofty widget]

then you need it but cant have it

[shell shale]

Necrotic feels like a non affix now tbh

[lofty widget]

yeah it does

not like it ever was an issue for us

[latent pier]

The spell reflect cdr thing is actually amazing.

It's usually up when I need it now.

[shell shale]

Last boss in top is so insane

I did 16k DPS to last boss in a 19 key this week

[vernal vale]

Loving spell reflect up more often.

[shell shale]

With spell reflect on every scythe

Being huge dmg

[vernal vale]

Hahaha that sounds stupid fun.

[shell shale]

Last boss literally just does 0 dmg to prot warriors now

[lime urchin]

Wait a minute, can we rally and last stand before a key starts?

[shell shale]

Yeah

[lime urchin]

And they reset?

[shell shale]

Yup

[lime urchin]

I see, interesting

[shell shale]

And fleshcraft resets too

But you keep the buffed shield

[latent pier]

Wow

[lime urchin]

Who plays necrolord jn keys anyway!

[latent pier]

I never thought of that

[shell shale]

I have been

It's nice

[lime urchin]

But mah spear goes brrrrrrrrr

[latent pier]

I haven't been necro since 9.0 so I forgot about that.

[lofty widget]

execute also goes BRRR on bosses

doing 10-11k ST on the regular now

[shell shale]

I do about 11k overall as Necro prot

[latent pier]

Praying for 2pc

[shell shale]

Wait until you get 4pc Necro prot

[latent pier]

I waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaant it

[shell shale]

I just got it yesterday

All 4 of my tier came from vault

[latent pier]

Wait

Fuck you

Continue

[shell shale]

Did you do 9/9 vaults?

Because 3 of my pieces were pvp rewards

[latent pier]

6/9 :/

I genuinely don't like the pvp in sl.

[shell shale]

Me neither lol

I hit 1950. And I get 1 win a week and do rbgs to cap

Had a 58 k shield slam yesterday in an rbg

[latent pier]

Kek

Demo is kinda gross in pvp

[shell shale]

Necro dh came to steal a base in eye of the storm. And I hit him with that. And he whispered me okay then I won't steal that

[latent pier]

If you have a good pilot

Kinda like rogue where you can really tell if you're fighting a bad one or not

[shell shale]

Only thing I didn't like about prot war in pvp. Is I shield walled and shield blocked and procceded to get 100 to 0 by a mm hunter in .2 seconds

With 0 stacks while carrying flag.

I mitigated like 200k dmg

I was like alright then

[lime urchin]

Is that because necrolord or because you slam shield slam on CD

[latent pier]

2pc shield slam is pure pain

[shell shale]

Necro is super fun spam rage and shield wall and banner 100% uptime

Shield wall not 100% but feels like it

[latent pier]

Feels like I can't spend rage fast enough still. I fizzle out with 30s on banner cd.

Wtb 2pc

[shell shale]

Yeah I wouldn't play Necro without at least 2pc tbh

Kyrian spear go brr at that point

[latent pier]

I suppose

[shell shale]

It's not too bad

[latent pier]

But it seems tanky enough

[shell shale]

It's just 2 piece rewards you for spending rage by giving you more rage

So it's pretty nice

[latent pier]

I hate how the kyrian and nf are the go-to. Necro is the true warrior covenant

[vernal vale]

I've been Night Fae all expac and AA slaps pretty good too. Plus it interrupts casters.

Necro has the best warrior flavor of them all to me for sure.

[ocean yoke]

every time on the oils before the manastorms i miss being fae

[humble tendon]

Finally i got my 278 tier set shoulders so 1/4 thats a start

[lime urchin]

Necrolord class hall is the main reason I switch to Necrolord

[latent pier]

Eyyy

[humble tendon]

time to practice necro 🙂

for when i get more

[lime urchin]

I have nightmares of all the yuuhuus at the blue bois but mah spear is so juicy!

[chrome falcon]

man the timer in streets is BRUTAL tight

we had 1 death which was our boomie during his CDs on trash and we failed it on 22

[shell shale]

Lol a guildie of mine swapped warrior this week and I proceeded to trade him 2 heroic tier pieces 2handed and rygelon gloves. And he proceeded to loot a tier.

And he had a gavel from time walking

[craggy pilot]

how is warrior doing highest dps on Halondrus HC, but pala is doing highest on Skolex HC? arent they both ST bosses? 🤔

[shell shale]

You can't miss on halondrus

So it makes fury better

[chrome falcon]

are you talking about dps or prot

[shell shale]

Oh

[chrome falcon]

fury isn't highest dps on skolex anyway

[shell shale]

I forgot where I was

Lol

[chrome falcon]

warrior might be higher on halondrus because it's a longer fight so more execute

but i wouldn't read into it

on a 3-4 min fight like that it's just RNG

[craggy pilot]

im talking tank dps 😄

just wondering which tank i should actually be playing for my Raid

Ashen seems fun as fk

and Charge weaving is kinda jerky in raid 😦

[chrome falcon]

not really

[craggy pilot]

but with the recent Spell Reflect buff, i was reconsidering my warr

[sturdy sable]

I hear blood does good aoe and funnel

But then youd have to play a DK

[craggy pilot]

ye its currently between Pala and Warr

druid DPS seems a bit insane on add fights

guardian

[sturdy sable]

Its just been nerfed

[craggy pilot]

30k dps on Anduin HC 🤣

[viral flume]

Blood dk has the best st dps with 4pc if they are allowed to be greedy and tank a majority of the time

[sturdy sable]

Check logs again in a couple of weeks to get a better metric

[craggy pilot]

but ye im surprised Palas are not WAY more ahead than they are

thought their ST was superior

[sturdy sable]

Whelp that wont fly with my brewmaster co tank doing the exact same thing

[craggy pilot]

Pala on Rygelon doing 11.800 dps

Sense doing 11.400 dps

[urban portal]

Their tier isn't that suited for st

[viral flume]

If you have a venth boomy tho that gets the pi, a NF prot pal that gives them blessing of summer during their cds will absolutely slap

[urban portal]

OUR damage

[viral flume]

And the blessing of summer damage, shows up on meters for the druid, but, in logs counts as the pally damage

[urban portal]

https://c.tenor.com/PA7_rZlLgbkAAAAM/meme-our.gif

[craggy pilot]

but all palas are Venthyr 😄

[viral flume]

Yucky

[urban portal]

No reason to play venth when you can play fae and steal dam

[viral flume]

I'd never be caught playing prot pally tho, my pally is 100% holy

😈

[craggy pilot]

my guild is kinda pepega tho, so considering doing Retribution Aura so i get free wings whenever someone dies 😄

its usually inevitable

[amber herald]

what's the proc rate on this does anybody know?

[soft prairie]

once a minute or so

[amber herald]

kinda eh then

[urban portal]

says 1 ppm on AMR

yeah

tho its about the same power as RDM?

but rdm does damage

[sturdy sable]

Rdm does a crap load of damage if your getting piped

[strong forum]

if you rng well on proto its almost decent

but its generally considered pretty bad

[amber herald]

it'd be replacing a 229 scale too

[strong forum]

na dont

[amber herald]

bracers from the vault then

🛌

[ebon pebble]

Tried this trinket in 3 different +20 Keys and 265 ilvl did less healing than my 246 Shell from DOS

[urban portal]

i would not take a 239 trinket from vault

youll get a million of those

that being said

im 99% sure this is the same HPS as a rdm at the same ilvl

just that it does no damage instead

[pulsar wedge]

what lego's yall running for prot?

[median tulip]

Reprisal

and to forestall your likely next questions, Feet, Haste/Versa

[pulsar wedge]

thanks

[solid granite]

reverberation gang

[opal pawn]

I'd make a reverb, But on my server boots are currently 190k.

[chrome falcon]

buffed material drop rate btw 🙂

[sturdy sable]

Thats the exact reason why i made my alts leggos on non meta pieces fuck paying twice if not 3 times as much

[opal pawn]

Yeah really, buffed all the drop rates so the mats are like 8k but leggos are still up to 150 to 200k on meta pieces

[latent pier]

It pays to know a goblin with everything leveled.

[strong forum]

gnot a gnelf

[median tulip]

I have maxed out BS, JC and tailoring amongst my characters

[craggy pilot]

is it possible to get 100% uptime of Banner with 4 set?

[urban portal]

Ye

Ask for pi

[craggy pilot]

😄

without PI then lol

and without WF 😦

[mighty valley]

I feel pretty close with 2 set on pure uptime fights

[strong forum]

even without PI and without WF you can get 100% uptime

[lime urchin]

But that requires pressing buttons

[lofty widget]

100 % uptime on bosses is quite easy with 4pc

[mighty cairn]

bosses yeah m+ prob not

[lofty widget]

depends on the dungeon

ive had 95 % uptime in like, mists and dos

although avg is like 80 ish

[solid granite]

bind all buttons on mouswheel & start scrolling like a mf

[hardy ridge]

Who do i PayPal for new banner sims ;p

[warped wave]

ticking

[urban portal]

I can but I don't want to

[craggy pilot]

hmm, should i play Venthyr Pala or Necro Warr in raid 🤔

cant decide

we have like 5 people who share tier piece with Pala, and only 2 who share with Warr

[vernal vale]

Necro war because it's fun

[craggy pilot]

does someone have a banner WA where i can track the duration and how much i extended? 🤔

[open roost]

i just got bis trinket guys!! cant wait to finally get invited to high keys

[craggy pilot]

fuck yes, lets go big pumppppp

[mighty valley]

there's been too much traitorous talk in here today about other tank specs

begone

warriors have loyalty and honor

[vocal bison]

You forget prot warriors are also predominantly sadomasochists.

[lime urchin]

Gz! I got that one last week!

[vocal bison]

We enjoy the punishment

[opal pawn]

That seems alot more like a personal thing. I put up shieldblock to Avoid the punishment.

[latent pier]

anyone else find it kinda stupid that the jailer doesn't drop a universal tier token like blackhand did?

[latent pier]

wait is it actually good

i thought they were memeing

[lofty widget]

[mighty valley]

no everyone is doing a little joke

[sweet summit]

everyone find that stupid

idk

[latent pier]

damn now I'm the idiot

[sweet summit]

the only good item on jailer

is the 2 hander

[opal pawn]

I think it'd be alright if it wasn't a 5 minute CD if I recall

[latent pier]

in fairness

[sweet summit]

kinda cringe

[latent pier]

that two hander is kinda insane

[sweet summit]

well, yea

for 5 specs

[mighty valley]

i'm mixed on it since everyone drops off wanting to kill the last boss after you get it once

[sweet summit]

6 maybe

[latent pier]

fury gets a lot out of it

[sweet summit]

idk i can't count

[latent pier]

total cheese

got my 278 two hander so I can pretty much vault tank spec now :D

[oblique garnet]

Do you have jailer weapon?

if not you cant

[latent pier]

didn't kill him yet so it doesn't matter

[mighty valley]

wish I liked arms at all so I could only need one weapon for offspec

[latent pier]

our guild keeps skipping :(

[lofty widget]

cant you get loot from bosses you havent killed?

[latent pier]

only tier

i think

[lofty widget]

ah okay

[latent pier]

Fellow war got a heroic gavel from dungeon week

:))))))

(hatred.)

[mighty valley]

Be happy for friends

[latent pier]

I used to main warlock and rogue, jealousy and greed are in my blood

[craggy pilot]

what soulbind is best for raid?

marileth or bonesmith?

[dark lark]

Marileth for 3x potency + Kevin

[craggy pilot]

ok, bloodmallet simming higher for bonesmith so got confused

[strong forum]

dunno if theyre using the current apl

looks like they are

https://i.imgur.com/5brpEVI.png

[jagged pier]

🤔

[craggy pilot]

🤔

[hardy ridge]

🤔

[vernal vale]

That's interesting. Close enough it could probably be considered a what feels better to you thing.

[mighty valley]

Who would you rather hang out with

[chilly brook]

the neck is good

just not worth until mythic tho

[strong forum]

according to sim tazavesh neck is better than 285 jailer neck

[urban portal]

cood be

but have you considered feelycrafting

[sturdy sable]

The cabachone?

[strong forum]

I think so

Big haste bit of vers

[sturdy sable]

Sick got a 278 one outa box last week

I saw the big haste and snatched it lmao

[mighty valley]

that was my first vault of the season

my fave cabochon of all time tbh

[sturdy sable]

I got a 278 axe from mists with leech from my first vault

Twas big pog

[waxen orbit]

cAP

[craggy pilot]

can people receive multiple banners? 🤔

and thus get like 800 mastery?

[strong forum]

Ye

[vernal vale]

Let's go. 4 necro warriors and some pally in dungeons stack stupid mastery.

[cobalt lance]

hey guys! Where i take my second Legendary? i have the first one at boots from shadow / waist from 9.2... did i need to buy and craft 2 new or can i stay at waist and buy new boots?

[urban portal]

thats fine

[cobalt lance]

if i look at warcraftlogs.com there are so much different builds...

[strong forum]

for now belt is fine

boots is bis

[azure smelt]

most of the time i use last stand and shield wall together throughout a key. is that trolling? how do you guys normally use those 2 cds?

[strong forum]

dont pair them

unless you need to

which you rarely should need to

SW has a much lower CD

[median tulip]

I usually have a plan for where I'm going to use them; specific big pulls

[strong forum]

LS can be treated as a DPS cd if youre not gonna need it for defensive play

[median tulip]

First platform on DOS, for example

[azure smelt]

thats mostly what im talking about those dos pulls hurt alot on war

so i usually use both

[mighty valley]

I usually hold SW a little on that pull for when I know people are gonna slack on interrupts / big guy gonna enrage

[median tulip]

Usually we Lust/Shield Wall the first platform, and use the Earth Elemtnal on the second

[mighty valley]

pop LS immediately though, as a health buffer for pull/DPS cooldown

i've been going left straight to ardenweald so i don't need to worry about holding CDs for 2nd pack this season

can pull endlessly in ardenweald with basically no risk

[lime urchin]

I opened mah box, but no tier! Maybe next week, yes?

[mighty valley]

Definitely

[lime urchin]

ok!

[shut summit]

[latent pier]

is vault the only way to get sockets r/n?

besides rng

[mighty valley]

Yeah

There's no exalted grind or whatever

You can relax

[grizzled lotus]

Yeah you wait til a vault whiffs then you get a socket

[west walrus]

Got my first this way this week

[eager star]

I haven’t tanked as Prot in a while - has ignore pain always been affected by necrotic?

[lofty widget]

ya

[eager star]

Kk. Thanks!

[mighty valley]

I barely noticed necrotic in the couple of keys i did last night

It's so nerfed by this point

[craggy pilot]

anyone know how the raid skip works?

[spring heart]

oi nerds why are some wars playing necro in keys

does it have highest survivability or some shit ?

[lofty widget]

big surv and big ST

[median tulip]

badly; there's a bug at the minute

If you wipe on Anduin after taking the skip the teleporter turns off and you can't get back to him

[urban portal]

the minigame is fun

[spring heart]

elaborate

[lofty widget]

trying to keep up banner for as long as possible

[upper spoke]

servers crash?

3 times in 3 days there is maintenance? or is this one just me

[odd tree]

Yea, had it drop during Shockwave in the keys I was running. The duration nerf was big.

[cinder nova]

I wish that was me. Did two 18s last night and didn't even think about it

Doing a 16 NW and I'm outhealing the monk

[mighty valley]

the biggest tank affix this week is that i have to say "remember ghosts" over comms every five seconds

[upper spoke]

anyone know a minimal prot WA? i tend to watch my action bars, and noticed my eyes drift from gameplay leading to missed mechanics & mistakes

one for mists and these dungeon minigames would enormously help as well

thanks in advamce

[strong forum]

I like mine

[upper spoke]

is it hosted somewhere?

[strong forum]

https://wago.io/Zt_bTl_7s

[upper spoke]

also, i hit 3k cosmic flux. i assume thats the cap. just got my 265 covenant belt. mind telling me where i should spend thjese?

and thanks ill check it out nomerator

[blazing condor]

No cap

[strong forum]

There's no cap on flux

[blazing condor]

Or not 3k at least

[mighty valley]

2k per 291 legendary

[upper spoke]

oh ty

awesome. from whom?

would like the other leggo from torghast, but im not near the floor where it drops

[mighty valley]

Need to bring the vessel item, two missives, and the soul ash / soul cinders / cosmic flux to the runecarver in torghast

Should be able to tear through lower torghast in today's gear

Ignore everything, go to boss

[upper spoke]

sweet thanks for the great info

[solar tusk]

Are somebody know, why are conduit "Unnerving Focus" doesn't work with legendary "Reprisal"?

[blazing condor]

Cus UF is connected to last stand

And has nothing to do with reprisals effects

[odd tree]

Or the pugs that continue to focus down every last shade.

[solar tusk]

I mean when i use LS with UF it hasn't effect on Reprisal

[blazing condor]

Sorry i dont get what you mean. Why would it have an effect on reprisal? Reprisal is connected to charge/intervene. Not Last Stand

[chrome falcon]

He's talking about the rage generation

It might just be a bug, UF doesn't work with necro banner either

[blazing condor]

oh

Idk makes sense that it wouldnt affect the rage gain from rep

Cus it flat out says what rage you get. But at the same time i get it

[chrome falcon]

it flat out says what rage you get on every other ability

it definitely doesn't "make sense" but if it's not working it's just a bug

[mossy ferry]

I really like Afenar's class WAs. Good presentation on resources, good highlighting of abilities coming off CD, and they reposition icons based on your talent and covenant setup. Great out-of-the-box option. https://wago.io/Afenar_Warrior

[solar tusk]

Somebody try wrote blizz about that?

[chrome falcon]

someone probably could be idk if the bug you mentioned exists

i can check now

yep, he's correct

the extra rage from reprisal isn't getting buffed by unnerving focus

which i assume is a known bug but

dumb

[urban portal]

im assuming charge itself is getting it

[chrome falcon]

i charged with 63% bonus rage and got 52 rage out of the deal

so 20 from charge + 63% bonus = 32

then 20 from reprisal

[urban portal]

math checks out

[chrome falcon]

but it should be 32 from reprisal as well adding up 64 total

so i dunno who our resident "report bugs to blizzard" guy is, but there's one for ya

make them fix unnerving focus+banner too while you're at it

i don't get enough rage as it is

[solar tusk]

and fix unnerving focus+reprisal

need more rage

[strong forum]

if thats the case it might not even increase rage gen from all legendaries

[solar tusk]

May be, didn't check it

[strong forum]

UF doesnt work with the rage refund from execute either, but that might be intentional or you could spin it like that since its a refund and not exactly generation

[chrome falcon]

yeah i'm not surprised it doesn't work with execute

i don't have a wall to check if it works with that though

but it doesn't work with banner regardless of if you're wearing glory or not

[strong forum]

im still and will be forever tho that signet doesnt work with our ravager

it would be so fucking sick

[chrome falcon]

make bonegrinder work with ravager

[strong forum]

it does.

[chrome falcon]

what why that makes no sense

ravager doesn't replace bladestorm for us it's just a talent

[strong forum]

ya but bonegrinder is coded to work with both ravager and bladestorm

[chrome falcon]

is that.... good? i guess even 2x damage whirlwind is way less dpr than revenge spam

[strong forum]

its not good

it does good dmg, but the fact that WW doesnt reset SS is why its awful

if it had the reset chance it would defo be good since they uncapped WW

[chrome falcon]

i wonder if we have enough rage that it doesn't matter but probably not

would be nice if it procced SS

[strong forum]

feel free to try

[chrome falcon]

i'll give it a shot next time i do something easy could be good for a meme

[strong forum]

it is good burst, but the rage you have to pump into it feels bad

but that was with last patches' rage gen

could be alot better with current rage gen

[chrome falcon]

fuck it, whirlwind's going on the bars

[strong forum]

throw ravager, hold BV until you get bonegrinder proc

press demo shout for phatty WW burst+ rage

[chrome falcon]

ah BV procs when ravager ends make sense

uh

bonegrinder*

[strong forum]

ye

otherwise itd be GIGA good

[chrome falcon]

would have been to get that passive rage gen WHILE i was WWing but still

[craggy pilot]

wtf

was just in a pug raid on my alt

killed Anduin + Lords + Rygelon

0 tier

warrior lead got on all 3

how the hell

[woven laurel]

anyone got a video of a necro prot war in a key wanna see how it is bc the dmg felt like hot garbage

[chrome falcon]

the dmg is hot garbage

you play it for tankiness

[woven laurel]

😴

are there any yt videos out anyway

[chilly brook]

idk if the damage is hot garbage

banner is a fairly sizeable damage increase

it's no spear

[sand pebble]

bring classes that need mastery, give deeps mastery, use fleshcraft on haste buff mob in plaguefall or vers banner in top - thats it for necroprot, i went straight back to nf/kyrian prot

[chilly brook]

but it's also not nothing

It'd be somewhere between Venth and Kyrian

And definitely closer to Kyrian than Venth

[woven laurel]

i though it felt so boring but i have no tier

[chrome falcon]

ah yeah

that'd do it

[woven laurel]

why does tier make it better

[chrome falcon]

more rage more banner

[woven laurel]

ig u get like double the outbursts

[chrome falcon]

more rage = more banner = more rage = more outburst

feedback loop

[woven laurel]

does tier set give bonus rage?

[chrome falcon]

uh

yes?

200% stronger = 200% more rage

[woven laurel]

oh i thought that only applied to the damage

[scenic mural]

Welcome to the land of the living

[upper spoke]

I got memory of a reprisal, and have the quest "The Final Pieces." This is expensive, so I don't want to mess it up. Should I buy ilvl 291 shadowghast boots (rune vessel) and two missives from the AH?

[scenic mural]

yes

[distant crystal]

the quest doesn't consume any of the requirements

it just sorta makes you buy the initial stuff and then you complete quest, then you can craft w/e

[upper spoke]

It's weird that my quest log doesn't show under "The Final Pieces" 1/1 Runecarver Memory Restored.

Missives of haste and versatility, right?

[chrome falcon]

yes

[upper spoke]

thanks

Any chance I need a certain reputation to complete the quest? After I bought two missives, my quest log changed to 2/2 "Different Missives Obtained," but doesn't recognize the several runecarver memories in my bags

[stoic igloo]

use the memories

[chrome falcon]

memory in bag =/= memory restored

[stoic igloo]

in front of runecarver

[upper spoke]

ah ok

makes sense. ty again

[scenic mural]

wowhead is also very helpful for these types of questions.

[torpid junco]

How is so leah gambit trinket for prot warrior? Worth running it over phial or decanter? (I don’t raid)

[sand pebble]

i used it for some free vers in keys then i clicked on it does nothing solo so i reverted back to opc/scale until i get something better to replace it with

[quick geode]

Anyone see a difference in prot after the update?

Sorry not update, the weekly reset.

[austere forum]

Do we even Ravager in keys?

[opal pawn]

Always ravager in keys

[trail sable]

just leveled up a warrior alt. going prot. do most peopel go Seismic or Reprisal in M+ with dbl leggo?

[mighty egret]

reprisal for everything

[trail sable]

@mighty egret wait Salty? its donnie

[mighty egret]

yooo

[trail sable]

reprisal? and not the DMG???

@mighty egret haste verse eh?

[mighty egret]

yes and yes

[trail sable]

xd

[latent pier]

I feel a lot tankier.

[mighty valley]

seismic is fun for keys where you're basically not taking damage just to pump

reprisal gives you defensive value and dmg through the immense rage gen + savings

[quick geode]

I did a 10 and was getting chunk damage taken. I must've been doing something wrong.

[scenic mural]

What would be your reasoning for not using ravager

[torn hawk]

trying out prot on my warr because it got buffed, I dont tank at all but how much does ignore pain factor into my rotation

[mighty valley]

you generally just press it to avoid overcapping your rage bar

and we get so much rage right now that it adds up to a decent amount

[vernal vale]

Tried out necro with just double legendary in raid tonight because tier hates me

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kpYwDNTn4ythVv1m#boss=-2&difficulty=0&wipes=2

Overall I felt pretty good about it even if I'm still cleaning some stuff up on my play.

[sand pebble]

i mean it gets better with tier increasing the rage feedback loop, better off playing nf/kyrian until then

i did a plaguefall with 2pc a few weeks back and wanted to rip my eyes out at how long the cd is

[vernal vale]

Yeah, since tier hates me at the moment I'll go back night fae tomorrow as we go to heroic.

I was just really curious how necro would feel.

[scenic mural]

My question is how is that DHs sinful brand uptime so low

[desert solstice]

What is the best trinket duo we can run right now for raid/mythic+. I’m sure Scale is still on there.

Asking because I’m getting back in to my prot warrior after this buff

[latent pier]

Do you have a mythic aegis

[desert solstice]

Sadly no

[urban portal]

its an aggregate of all bosses

ofc its gonna be low when you arent dotting up mobs on lithium

[scenic mural]

Well they have 2dhs, one with appropriate uptime and one with reaally low

Looks like he may have went NF for some fights

[teal swift]

Ara Ara motherfuckers

How are yall

[unborn moon]

I know I'm pretty late for the train, but how's Sepulcher's Savior? Any good or just a gimmicky joke shield?

[urban portal]

Both

[torn gust]

i get like 50% uptime on banner through the whole key :v

[unborn moon]

Both, uh k, guess at least its better than tokens maybe

[urban portal]

Well

If it's not max ilvl

Not worth

Just find a dung shield and upgrade w valor

[unborn moon]

Ok thanks

And one more question, does 2 pieces affects The Wall?

[urban portal]

Likely not

Tho not sure

[proper dock]

Look what a Shaman traded me today! Better than my old M + shield that’s for sure.

[urban portal]

Dam clean

Tho 23 damage is a meme lol

That swap kinda large

[torn gust]

is that like the bis shield?

[urban portal]

No

It's less consistent than a regular shield

But it can spike for good hps/dam

[proper dock]

Other form, the absorb shield is about 41k, off the GCD, 1.5 on each side so it’s a 3 min

[jagged pier]

U dont use the active

Just keep it in defensive it will have the same block as a 285 shield its a lot of extra mitigation

[proper dock]

Nice data, thanks.

[unborn moon]

Does that "shield the most injured member" works on yourself too?

[proper dock]

yes

if targeting a enemy it auto on me, if targeting a friendly it goes on them

[urban portal]

I'd imagine it decides for you

Most injured

[proper dock]

I will keep testing, so far its me by default, will see.

[unborn moon]

you can choose who to be targeted?

[hollow edge]

kind of an odd question, but is highmountain tauren better or worse than vulpy boy?

any1 but @urban portal answer pls

[urban portal]

@mighty cairn

[jagged pier]

No its not

But race really doesnt matter

[strong forum]

Vulpy boi is bis for m+ on horde

[proper dock]

So it works on my target when we are all full and standing around. LOL, but it does in fact go to the most injured person once in combat, just happens to be me most of the time. LOL

[upper spoke]

i need cinder ash or something like that for my leggo

but my covenant campaign is 1/7, chains of domination 2 or 3/7

aqnd i havent unlocked parts of torg that award it

[sick sentinel]

Then go do them

Lmao

[upper spoke]

way too tedious ....

[sick sentinel]

It's just the 2 first chapters of campaign and u should be able to skip it already

[upper spoke]

would take 10-15 hours, at least

[sick sentinel]

Unless this is it first char

[upper spoke]

this my 1st sl toon. had golf from bfa & legion

[sick sentinel]

Well

First 2 chapters of covenant campaign

And then skip to zereth mortis

[upper spoke]

sry burger in 1 hand. break from m+ to eat

did zm

its reprisal 4 feet

[sick sentinel]

Well then just welcome to sl and torghast chapters should be fine

[upper spoke]

lol even layer 2 of jailer recommends a higher ilvl

figure id chain run cosmic flux stuff then trade 3k+ flux for cinder

was hoping for another way ...

i know very little SL and stumbled on the cosmic 4 cinder thing

just want a 2nd leggo 4 m+

for fun

probly shudvev done covenant and chains rather than zm, but i knew no better

maybe i can find people who would want to run low layers of torg, but idk

[teal swift]

Vulpera is bis in general. Pure dopamine

copamine

[upper spoke]

just trying to figure out the most efficient way to do this. im not really complaining

i shouldve played all expansion

[low kindle]

does it put on use trinkets on cd or no?

[dawn canyon]

If you just do m+ and raids and stuff youll get your renown

[slim forum]

so after the buffs how do prot warriors actually stand

are they still the worse tank

[dawn canyon]

Least good is how id put it

[blazing condor]

Tier lists and comparing classes are cringe

And unironically makes players worse

Cus people go fotm meta classes believing they’ll be better

But instead they still suck

[dawn canyon]

Get good at ur class instead

[blazing condor]

Instead of just learning their own class

[lime urchin]

Get out of here

[lime urchin]

Amen

[drowsy scarab]

hey guys whats the diff between kyr and necro on prot?

like which one is more defensive/offensive?

[lofty widget]

necro is def, kyr/nf is more offense

[drowsy scarab]

as necro u play the reprisal build with Heavy Repercussions aswell right?

[lofty widget]

no you still play AM

[blazing condor]

Always AM unless youre doing giga-keys

Especially AM with tier set

[upper flame]

Define giga-keys
25+?

[blazing condor]

Yeah somewhere there and up

You can still play AM there tho but most people opt for the extra SB

[upper flame]

Guess I need to switch to AM

[blazing condor]

Dont know if its still AM with 4p regardless of key

Dont know if the more uptime on avatar together with the DR% is better

[lofty widget]

you always play AM with tier

can play HR without but eh

[blazing condor]

Yeah feels like you would

[pulsar wedge]

my ST dmg in Mplus sint were it should be. im avging 15-18k per mplus dungeon over all dmg in 19+ keys

but only doing 10-11k for boss fights

[wild hemlock]

i hope youre in wrong channel haha

[pulsar wedge]

yeahh lol my b

[topaz field]

i think this statement is wrong. If you are bad but play a good class its bad if you are bad and play a bad class its super bad

[chrome falcon]

@strong forum ok i need to experiment more but i think the bonegrinder thing might be fucking broken

[sweet summit]

[chrome falcon]

i'm topping dps on aoe packs as necrolord

[blazing condor]

My point being if the people spent the same time learning their original ””bad”” class that they did making new alts and trying to be meta, theyd perform way better than being mediocre at something that is considered better

Because the actual differences are unimportant at the average player’s level

[dawn canyon]

Noooo i cant do a 15 as feral i have to make a fire mage

[median tulip]

On the rare occasions I pug I will actively prefer non-meta classes and specs, just to eliminate the FotM rerollers

[dawn canyon]

Both feral druids ive played with were good

[wild hemlock]

like fat IO eles that have played their class through the ups and downs. those are my favorite dpsers

rogues are generally good i feel like also

skill wise not "class wise"

[waxen orbit]

Lots of potential with our excess rage gen now. Last season it left us vulnerable but with double lego + 4pc I can see this becoming a valid pick

[wild hemlock]

bonegrinder?

[chrome falcon]

secret tech i'll report back if it's functional

[rugged mural]

Left of right after the first boss in Taz Streets?

[wild hemlock]

i was thinking it was a lvl 15 talent because i didnt recognize the name lmao

and have never changed the lvl 15 ones

[scarlet bluff]

I love how you knew that he was a blood dk player at first sight

[wild hemlock]

i assumed fury

[vernal vale]

I really want to see video of bonegrinder in a dungeon now. Sounds stupid and fun.

[jagged pier]

Its not fun

[wild hemlock]

i didnt even know bonegrinder existed lol

[torpid junco]

Do we still run klia on necrotic week?

[wild hemlock]

necrotic pretty easy now imo

shockwave into hero leap has been great for me with 5 sec duration

[blazing condor]

Kleia is a comfort thing

No reason not to run her but no real reason to run her either

you can do both

[mighty cairn]

mikeneko is a lot of dps tho

[shell shale]

does bonegrinder proc off ravager for prot?

[lofty widget]

yes

[shell shale]

Lol I hope i dont have to make another keybind for whirlwind xD

[deft hinge]

u gotta wait til 10.0 for that

[crimson mountain]

Ww is still a dead button, right?

[jagged pier]

yes

[modern brook]

hey guys back to make sure yall mourned me correctly

[blazing condor]

more like whofango

[modern brook]

Aight im content; bye everyone!

[blazing condor]

bye ❤️

[chrome falcon]

nah bonegrinder is good actually

it's pretty finnicky and i wouldn't use it on a fortified pack that hurts

but you can absolutely destroy packs with it

[scarlet bluff]

Oh yeah, that damage could be fury also. My bad 😅

[drowsy scarab]

with the 4set i always play AM right?

[sweet summit]

POG

[strong forum]

Rip

[sullen tangle]

should i switch to necro at 2 piece or wait for 4 piece?

[chrome falcon]

whatever you want you can play necro with 0 piece

[sullen tangle]

thnx

[vernal vale]

Anyone have the motivation to look at my logs and point out any mistakes I'm making. Feel like I'm still wasting too much rage.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kpYwDNTn4ythVv1m#type=damage-done&boss=-2&difficulty=0&wipes=2

I'm actively working on getting my rotation cleaner and cleaner.

[strong forum]

cant see any big mistakes on skolex

besides just wasting 10% of your rage

[jagged pier]

low blocked hits

even tho u running rep

like 68% on anduin kill

[urban portal]

You should have much bigger %hits blocked in raid than m+ since you have downtime

Don't be too trigger happy w block when you aren't tanking

Just keep a charge on cd

[mental scarab]

when can we reroll tier gear? got M shoulders in my vault again and wrists high haste and mastery with socket, keep the tier? dont raid at all

[agile pumice]

2 weeks

[mental scarab]

oh whats the thing called os i can google it 😄

[agile pumice]

Creation catalyst

[mental scarab]

thnaks

oh cheap to

[hardy flare]

how good is the shild from the first boss in mythic ?

[mighty valley]

good defensively, offensive mode is generally worse than just having the stats

there are probably ways to get value out of the activates but that's a lot of effort, and you can happily chill in defense mode and feel fine

if you get a higher ilvl shield that'll just be better though

[modern pulsar]

Is there a best leggo by fight resource for the raid? I know the wall and reprisal can be interchangeable.

[blazing condor]

you can always check logs and see whats used

see the statistics

[strong forum]

generally reprisal for almost all fights

[modern pulsar]

is there a fight were The Wall should be used? is it worth crafting to 291 then?

[strong forum]

i think LoD is like the only one

[mighty valley]

reprisal is a little higher effort on Skolex and LoD with the constant uptime

but I haven't upgraded wall yet

[blazing condor]

my wall is 235

[vernal vale]

Thanks, I feel like I've got some timing somewhere wrong with muscle memory on just hitting shield block on cd.

[jagged pier]

skolex, pantheon

wall fights

[pale roost]

how are protv tanking after buffs and with 4set =)?

[mellow bridge]

why pantheon

[jagged pier]

because only the bosses that do the tank machanics melee

and the wall allows u to have SW for every tank buster

for like half the fight u arent being melee'd at all

[shut summit]

yea you can make reprisal work but having wall / using wall on every humbling strikes to not nuke your raid is ideal

[jagged pier]

actually like after the nerf like more than half the raid fight u arent being melee'd tbh

so u dont need the block from repisal

[frigid vault]

@pale roost Fun, you get a lot of rage and procs to play with. You're still very vulnerable to anything you can't block.

[blazing condor]

was there any conclusion to ve'nari's story?

if any lore-frogs know?

[cold zealot]

alt raids... too fun^^

rygelon normal for context

[toxic tapir]

So, I saw a prot warr using hit artifact two hand while prot spec, does anyone know how to do that?

[jagged pier]

well it was an old bug

could be back i suppose

[toxic tapir]

´but do you know how its done?

[strong forum]

you swap to arms

then whilst you have the tmog window open you swap spec

and on the same frame that the spec finishes switching and switches to your prot gear, you hit apply tmog

thats how it used to work

but has been fixed after a few weeks/days dunno if its back

[jagged pier]

did he have a shield or not?

could be an arms warrior in d stance

[toxic tapir]

no i am 90% sure he was prot

[latent pier]

It really should just be like that tbh

Wanna look like an arms war but are prot, hell why not

[blazing condor]

fun detected

🔨

[latent pier]

You'd even be able to give enhance their friggin 2h gimmick back without any number work

[mighty valley]

enhance deserves nothing

give me windfury and log off

[royal marten]

Enhance has been without 2 handed longer than it had it

[latent pier]

Does prot get much out of windfury?

I was mostly dps in 9.1

[strong forum]

prot gets the most of all tanks out of windfury

same as arms gets the most out of all dps

[royal marten]

More rage more fun

[strong forum]

WF is around 700 dps at max gear

[mighty valley]

trying to balance maxing raid dps with not becoming the incredibly annoying nerd that keeps saying "look at this chart, I should be in there"

[jagged pier]

im in it in my raid

get more out of it than other ppl

[blazing condor]

there's not even a reason to argue about it

"do you wanna give me wft or do you wanna int the dps"

[mighty valley]

you seem to be assuming human beings are rational

[cinder nova]

With NL memes is oil or stones better for pump

[blazing condor]

i am an assooomer

[cinder nova]

"tank damage doesn't matter we're putting the feral in instead"

I'd rather kill myself

[blazing condor]

all damage matters its literally what the game is revolving around

[latent pier]

I want to know what the healers that say that kinda shit do when nobody's dying

Do they afk for tea

[blazing condor]

they go fail mechanics and wipe the raid

[latent pier]

You forgot blaming the tank after

Who's best healer damage wise now? Usually feral talent resto or resto sham ain't it?

[mighty valley]

shaman was huge, dunno if 9.2 changed anything

[latent pier]

Lava burst for them hits harder than ele lava burst iirc

Just no mast procs

[jagged pier]

see if u actually do damage your raid gets more damage out of u having WF than a bad dps

[strong forum]

feral literally gets nothing out of it?

like what

why the fuck a feral

[vestal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/229293639220723713/958876682574499880/unknown.png

[cold zealot]

I simmed myself with 4set and 2 legos and its 550ish dps increase for me with my current gear and its 240ish rage over a 5 min encounter

[strong forum]

ye i dont think wordup resimmed with the new APL yet

as i said WF is 700 dps on maxgear sim

[potent anvil]

4p prot owns

[jagged pier]

yer would be nice if bliz let me get tier tho

[potent anvil]

Probably can optimize the bonus better, but nice to see tclap actually clapping

[jagged pier]

u should not be using it on TC

u get 2 revenges out of a buffed SS + the SS damage

its more than 1 buffed TC

[potent anvil]

I see

[jagged pier]

its harder to play and optimise

but u do more damage and get more rage

so u get more buffed stuff

etc etc

and no UF isnt good

👍

[sweet summit]

4p deswind owns

also

[jagged pier]

☝️

[potent anvil]

[jagged pier]

[latent pier]

[blazing condor]

Oops sorry accidentally left my spear of bastion in ur dms

Wyd tho?

[sweet summit]

crab

[minor helm]

Deswind always owns

[jagged pier]

[potent anvil]

[lofty widget]

obvious question time, does demo reduce dmg taken from orbs on third boss in spires?

[sweet summit]

yes

[chrome falcon]

How hard can it be to make it remember you soulbind when you swap cov

[sweet summit]

very

[chrome falcon]

If I start one more goddamn key with pelagos I’m going to lose it

[sweet summit]

(jk there's one on wago u can yoink)

[chrome falcon]

Figured, I had too much faith in my warrior brain

[sweet summit]

[chrome falcon]

And I was so ready to try bonegrinding

[oblique garnet]

Dont

Waste of time

[chrome falcon]

Nah I think it’s worth a shot

You can get 5 fucking giga whirlwinds in the window

[oblique garnet]

Ww doesnt proc you any ss

Costs more rage

[chrome falcon]

Procs the mobs dying

[oblique garnet]

So does revenge

[chrome falcon]

Not as hard

With grinder, banner and avatar up WW hits for 10.5k per target

I don’t think I remember revenge doing that

[oblique garnet]

Maybe you actually have enough rage gen now for it to be worth

[chrome falcon]

I’ve been doing it in joke keys like 18 and under

And on short packs I top dps

[jagged pier]

we did this all last season

[chrome falcon]

As necrolord

[jagged pier]

it isnt worth it

[chrome falcon]

Last season when we had half the rage generation?

[oblique garnet]

Last season rage gen was the issue

[chrome falcon]

Go try it in an easy key

It fucking obliterates packs

If you start WWing at 100 rage you can get 5 WWs during the window

I don’t know how viable it is at a higher level where you can’t just incinerate 150 rage on nothing

[oblique garnet]

I mean you kinda can

Because atm your rage gen is just ridiculous

Ill test it at somepoint when i have the chance

[chrome falcon]

I bursted 60k on the double murloc pull at the start of gambit

Without spear

Which is not even remotely possible otherwise

[jagged pier]

i mean the 100 rage wasnt the issue in season 2 was getting 4-5 everytime when i was playing bonegrinder

its just arse to play

[chrome falcon]

Oh yeah it’s really fiddly

[urban portal]

It's like arms bonegrinder but slightly better

[chrome falcon]

But what else are you using that second/third potency on

[jagged pier]

usually ashen now

[chrome falcon]

Bone grinder is a pretty free addition especially on 3potency and sometimes you’ll use it for a huge ass burst

[dry spear]

do u guys see any value in playing necrolord in m+ or just kyrian?

[jagged pier]

easier time to optimise with necro

but kyrian if u can play it does more damage

[urban portal]

not to mention every other 3rd potency blows

[chrome falcon]

Well yeah that’s why it’s a free addition

Even if you press like two empowered WWs that probably more damage than SoF

[strong forum]

You ain't catching me dead playing sof

Waste of a conduit

[urban portal]

nothing else to take

[strong forum]

Ashen

[latent pier]

I will say

only thing I miss swapping to necro is the upgraded owl slave

[chrome falcon]

You get two hearthstones though

Pretty tight

[latent pier]

two jeeves tho

if you're insane enough to upgrade it

[whole sphinx]

Hows necro feelin vs kyrian? Finally got my 4pc. Gonna try er out i think

[sweet summit]

feels pretty damn good

[lofty widget]

very fun

[shut summit]

is great

[sweet summit]

constant rage influx epic

[whole sphinx]

Awesome!

[nocturne pasture]

Are you guys playing marileth or emeni?

[lofty widget]

marileth

[mighty valley]

there was some brief discourse yesterday when bonesmith was a fraction of a percent ahead on sims

so idk play what you feel

who has the chillest vibes

[chrome falcon]

heirmir is a homie

but kevin is THE homie

[mighty valley]

lends you his oozeling and doesn't even expect it back

[latent pier]

IMO even without 2pc it feels the best.

[whole sphinx]

I just got 4pc tuesday so shpuld feel awesome

[latent pier]

lucky bastard :<

[safe thistle]

so playing marileth we dont get CaS ?

[sweet summit]

you can play 3p3e

but then you lose safeguard

kinda up to you, if you need safeguard to save someone in a high key from a one shot then you play it

otherwise play 3p3e

[safe thistle]

for raid i mean

[sweet summit]

oh

yeah

[sweet summit]

[safe thistle]

this should be good for raid or you would let go ashen

[sweet summit]

ashen is huge for dps

definitely run it

[safe thistle]

i think about like ahlondrus fight

kk

but i dont love condensed anima sphere 😦

i do*

[sweet summit]

long distance relationship

bad rng

wcyd

[safe thistle]

hehe

normally i go potato defensive on emeni