im advocating for people to track Seing Red
#protection
fluid beacon
patent osprey
its not making you so much tankier you can do different pulls or changing your gameplay
its just a boring legendary
plush tendon
true
plush tendon
Glory is pretty cool
fluid beacon
does it?
patent osprey
Glory is cool cause it makes you tankier for longer
plush tendon
but not having spear in M+ is sad
sweet summit
true
patent osprey
And GLORY MAKES YOU SKIP XAV SLOW in TOP
fluid beacon
i gave up on necro before i hit 80 and then they nerfed it and i never felt the need to roll it
patent osprey
It is fking BIS
sweet summit
:yejoice:
chrome falcon
i made glory in 9.1 and never looked back because it's just actually fun to play with
distant crystal
stun immunity is way cooler than you'd think it is
chilly brook
i gave up on necro before i hit 80 and then they nerfed it and i never felt the ...
they only nerfed it for fury
blazing condor
And GLORY MAKES YOU SKIP XAV SLOW in TOP
o yeah i remember thinking about that in 9.0 thinking it was gonna be good asf
too bad necro was ass
fluid beacon
ohhh got it
patent osprey
but yeah, other than glory, its all boring. Also why is venthyr so fking useless for prot. It is sad
chrome falcon
venthyr prot has to be the worst spec/cov combo in the game
chilly brook
Premature nerf feelsbadman
fluid beacon
idc what people say but condemn is the coolest spell animation and sound for an ability we had it a long ass time
id love to play Venthyr just to have condemn again
it looks amazing
chilly brook
venthyr prot has to be the worst spec/cov combo in the game
I will still maintain Venthyr was good on Sire
distant crystal
condemn is a p sick cov ability like thematically
urban portal
but yeah, other than glory, its all boring. Also why is venthyr so fking useless...
I still think the only problem is the fact that we don't have it available 100%
distant crystal
replacing a warrior spell vs just adding a button
urban portal
If it was weaker during non execute it would be ok
distant crystal
is that the only cov ability that replaces a spell?
urban portal
As it currently stands you get an IP with an execute every cast
urban portal
is that the only cov ability that replaces a spell?
Nf dks
chrome falcon
@chilly brook where the >80% thing was totally useless? doubt
chilly brook
is that the only cov ability that replaces a spell?
nah NF for dk
patent osprey
Either make venthyr prot be able to condemn whatever the % is, or make condemn AOE but do less dam
fluid beacon
Ancient SHockwave is bis anyways but the cooldown is too fucking long 😭
distant crystal
oh that replaces DnD?
chilly brook
<@!133532617940140032> where the >80% thing was totally useless? doubt
p3 dam was the only dam that mattered
and condemn helped a lot for that tbh
fluid beacon
and change the animation where instead of you smackign your weapon top down make it a wide ass arcing cleave spell with the same sound
oooffffffffffffffff
chilly brook
it also was significant absorb
urban portal
i feel like theres a huge design space limitation because of 3 specs
distant crystal
TC has a 40% chance to cast condemn on any target over 80%/under 30% or w/e the condem thresholds are
sweet summit
Like after a TC, let condemn hit aoe
even then it's still a spender competing against generators 
patent osprey
Yeah but it'd be cool/fun
fluid beacon
even then it's still a spender competing against generators <:sadga:869134702970...
so what. sounds sick
urban portal
you can pretend its a generator because it generated an IP for free
sweet summit
i mean
patent osprey
Whoever in skyhold is talking to Warrior Devs, please make condemn cleave ty ❤️
chilly brook
my cotank hated me being venthyr on sire
sweet summit
the concept of condemn is still sick
chilly brook
he had such a hard time keeping aggro
chilly brook
sweet summit
it's just implemented poorly for us, and tuned poorly for arms/fury
urban portal
there was no thought into condemn prot
patent osprey
it could be so much more 😦
sweet summit
fluid beacon
or make it a bigger shield if it cant cleave
amber herald
why is necro good now?
urban portal
why is necro good now?
funni big rage
blazing condor
why is necro good now?
tier
fluid beacon
there has to me some value in hitting a spell that drians your rage
sweet summit
glory and reprisal + tier for infinite banner hack
chilly brook
why is necro good now?
big rage unlimited banner
so big rage
big strenght
big mastery
go brrrr
amber herald
so it needs the 4 piece?
chrome falcon
no
fluid beacon
how much strenth?
chrome falcon
it helps though
fluid beacon
i thought it only gave huge mastery
chrome falcon
21-23% depending on your conduit
shell shale
Conduit
livid dagger
Is necro a thing again even after the nerfs?
sweet summit
i've been bamboozled
blazing condor
ticket
chrome falcon
the nerfs were only for fury...
urban portal
Is necro a thing again even after the nerfs?
was not nerfed for prot
sweet summit
what hte heck
fluid beacon
i didnt know about the strength buff
shell shale
Did the conduit upgrade item only work for cov you were in?
chrome falcon
were you kyrian when you use the 3k conduit item?
sweet summit
yes
chrome falcon
urban portal
buy another one
shell shale
No fking way lmao
urban portal
:DDD
chrome falcon
gj blizz
scenic mural
It does not
chrome falcon
that would make sense huh
urban portal
not in the ina discord
sweet summit
other wah
fluid beacon
idk how much strength I even have right now
chrome falcon
but i guess it's not even in your conduit book when you're not that cov so
blazing condor
safe thistle
tank aggro aint an issue in game the issue is dps brain
chilly brook
but i guess it's not even in your conduit book when you're not that cov so
yea but you don't have to do this with the one they put on the vendor by the flight point in oribos?
chilly brook
like tf blizz
chilly brook
for how long?
infinite
sweet summit
for as long as you can maintain it
chrome falcon
infinite in the right situation shaker
fluid beacon
so ignore pains will be much bigger during banner too
chilly brook
ehh
upper spoke
kyrian the best? new 60, about to hit Zeth'Mortis. Is it easily reversed?
chrome falcon
yes
upper spoke
sorry for repeat question
chilly brook
define much bigger
chrome falcon
you can freely swap
fluid beacon
IP scales with strenth
chilly brook
not by much
fluid beacon
whatever it is its bigger
upper spoke
cool thank you
sweet summit
Attack power * 3.5
fluid beacon
i didnt know about the STR factor at all. didnt know there was a conduit for it
chilly brook
guys
chrome falcon
banner increases the size of my IP by about 30%
chilly brook
you all ready
chilly brook
for your 55% IP?
sweet summit
am ready
chilly brook
sweet summit
as heck
fluid beacon
30% larger cap on IP is big
chilly brook
Idk how I feel about IP being 35 rage instead of 40
chrome falcon
there isn't a 30% larger cap on IP
fluid beacon
which means you dont have to technically cast it as frequrntly
chrome falcon
IP cap is based on your max hp
chilly brook
30% larger cap on IP is big
?
fluid beacon
and can dump more into Revenge
blazing condor
i feel like im just accidentally gonna press it more cus im APM-spamming
jagged pier
Idk how I feel about IP being 35 rage instead of 40
gunna be harder to dumb rage
fluid beacon
he said 30% more IP im assuming he means the max IP you can get no?
jagged pier
only really effects the better prot players tbh
chilly brook
gunna be harder to dumb rage
that was my thought
blazing condor
then im good 
chrome falcon
@fluid beacon no i said it increases the SIZE of my IP by 30%
chilly brook
who said that
chrome falcon
not the cap
sweet summit
IP cap is based on your max hp
IPs "cap" is based on the tooltip value, not your max hp 
fluid beacon
so you hit the cap sooner?
sweet summit
2x tooltip
safe thistle
why would you use IP anywau spell reflect is there and melee you got DbtS
sweet summit
no
chilly brook
why would you use IP anywau spell reflect is there and melee you got DbtS
wrong chat brother
sweet summit
the tooltip updates dynamically with buffs/debuffs
chilly brook
This isn't arms
sweet summit
doesn't really change anything
fluid beacon
We use IP here not for its survivability but to dump rage to loop into Anger Management so we can DPS more with Avatar
sweet summit
safe thistle
wrong chat brother
lol just woke up
fluid beacon
https://tenor.com/view/im-uncomfortable-the-office-michael-scott-steve-carell-make-face-gif-16137305
safe thistle
orc racial work on ip too 😛
strong forum
We use IP here not for its survivability but to dump rage to loop into Anger Man...
thats exactly it
fluid beacon
and with 4 set thats even more true
does Avatar override seeing red stacks? its probably in the pins eh
ionic fern
sweet summit
yes
chrome falcon
you could also override your outbursts and waste one
not that i would ever do that lol haha just in theory
🙂
sweet summit
🙂
fluid beacon
you could also override your outbursts and waste one
Nice. Even more nuance
So now you have to have an even bigger brain to play prot warrior effectively
blazing condor
from 2cm to 3cm brain
safe thistle
would you replace ows or aegis for a 5 minute boss fight.
with first sigil
oh wow im still sleeping brb later when ill have coffee
strong forum
for dmg absolutely
naive hatch
what trinkets are you guys running rn? I have a 246 scale and a 239 aegis, but i want to fit my OWS in there
(limping through 15s)
lofty widget
aegis+ows is a solid combo
grizzled spindle
ows?
strong forum
aegis owns
waxen orbit
what trinkets are you guys running rn? I have a 246 scale and a 239 aegis, but i...
If you’re limping through 15s it’s either gear, your group bad, or you should probably share logs or something
But yeah aegis + OWS is a solid combo
grizzled spindle
what is ows?
waxen orbit
Old Warrior’s Soul
violet violet
Codex is nice too if you’re sick of playing around ows
If next week is necrotic, aegis/codex make that affix a joke
naive hatch
If you’re limping through 15s it’s either gear, your group bad, or you should *p...
the issue is entirely me
i'm a garbage prot warrior
but i continue limping through and trying to improve
chilly brook
well that was bigger than i thought it'd be
Can't say that's a problem I've ever experienced
blazing condor
Can't say that's a problem I've ever experienced
come home to me this weekend and i'll show you
chilly brook
because the group wouldn't kick wicked bolts
still timed it
but my deaths weren't really my fault
plush tendon
If your not using kick on CD in Halls.... you doing it wrong
at least as a DPS
but honestly, just give us a nice dungeon with little to no casts and just melees blizz
please and thank you ❤️
dawn canyon
Or wcm
distant crystal
make outburst t-clap an interrupt
plush tendon
slime boss trash.... spell reflect
distant crystal
or even like a stun
distant crystal
cause outburst SS is already good
distant crystal
t-clap needs something to make it compelling
plush tendon
please and thank you
distant crystal
aoe kick would be sick
distant crystal
tho i guess tying it to a proc would be kinda weird
waxen orbit
the issue is entirely me
I’d be willing to sit down and give some pointers later when I get home if you wanna share logs homie
Some other folks in here also do it pretty regularly
If you want some friendly advice and stuff we’re here
No judgment
distant crystal
judgement is for paladins
naive hatch
I’d be willing to sit down and give some pointers later when I get home if you w...
I'll have to log some keys and get back to you
waxen orbit
No worries g
waxen orbit
judgement is for paladins
Judgment is for me when melee DPS A+D+A+D spam during Blasphemy
safe thistle
so Will Smith is a warrior
safe thistle
it was weak so weak i though it was wake at first, i think he hold back
held*
fake*
waxen orbit
so Will Smith is a warrior
waxen orbit
that was a rogue slap
Nah bro you heard the impact on that shit?
distant crystal
Chris popped evasion tho
waxen orbit
Like hitting a mf gong
safe thistle
chris is used to get slapped !
distant crystal
You can see he sorta dodges and dampens the blow
chilly brook
Nah bro you heard the impact on that shit?
doesn't matter Chris looked like it had 0 impact
safe thistle
lol
chilly brook
also what warrior fucking slaps
strong forum
will is smirking all the way
chilly brook
at least punch him
strong forum
this shit wasnt serious at all
distant crystal
also what warrior fucking slaps
two thumbs pointed at chest This guy
strong forum
idk why people make it out to be serious in any way
safe thistle
only so ppl speak about the oscar since nobody give a fuck about it anymore ?
chilly brook
this shit wasnt serious at all
prolly staged tbh to drum up the hype since the oscars are dying
waxen orbit
idk why people make it out to be serious in any way
Will and Chris have had light beef for a minute apparently
plush tendon
only so ppl speak about the oscar since nobody give a fuck about it anymore ?
yea, didnt even know it was on XD
strong forum
sure but people read too much into it
waxen orbit
prolly staged tbh to drum up the hype since the oscars are dying
And yeah this is prolly it
distant crystal
idk how this helps the oscars tho
strong forum
you can see him trying not to fucking laugh
plush tendon
was too busy doing another normal raid
chilly brook
And in what world do people get assaulted on stage and not get escorted out
strong forum
idk how this helps the oscars tho
any PR is good PR
distant crystal
like...are ppl gonna watch next year in case some drama happens? doubt
chilly brook
homie just sits back down
plush tendon
And in what world do people get assaulted on stage and not get escorted out
the US of A
waxen orbit
like...are ppl gonna watch next year in case some drama happens? doubt
You’d be surprised
distant crystal
I think Will Smith is just a lil unhinged
chilly brook
doesn't get escorted out by security or the police
plush tendon
LA is a weird place
distant crystal
he's got scientology and his swinger wife messing w/ his head :p
safe thistle
yahhh they say speak bad about it or good, but speak about it (smoething like that)
plush tendon
10/10 would avoid
chilly brook
the US of A
nah fam this is how you get tackled/forcefully removed from an event
pretty sure it's staged
waxen orbit
It’s for sure staged
distant crystal
big doubt
sweet summit
plush tendon
maybe; if someone smacked you like that in Boston, there would be a bar fight
cant let yourself get slapped like that
chilly brook
a bar is different from an awards show lol
waxen orbit
Oscars would have straight up drawn and quartered a dude for doing that not even 5 years ago. This is 110% staged
chilly brook
^^
plush tendon
a bar is different from an awards show lol
doesnt matter; gonna let some guy walk up to you and smack ya
waxen orbit
Chris not pressing charges after too
amber herald
idk if it's fake if you watch the after the slap clips
chilly brook
personally no I wouldn't
waxen orbit
X to doubt the reality of the situation
chilly brook
but shit is fake
strong forum
doesnt matter; gonna let some guy walk up to you and smack ya
thats the smart thing
if you fight back youre just as dumb
simple as
safe thistle
the only show ive ever watch was the golden globe when it was Ricky Gervais
plush tendon
thats the smart thing
It may be the smart thing to do... but sometimes, you got to keep it real
strong forum
chris made the correct move and took it like a champ
dawn canyon
Is a good meme template
plush tendon
^
waxen orbit
if you fight back youre just as dumb
Yeah if you’re on stage and maintaining an appearance, you’re taking a huge ass W if you get smacked and you play that shit off. It’s not like some random in the streets picking a fight where bets are off. Assuming this is real, which it likely isn’t, Chris made the right move
strong forum
exactly
safe thistle
people are dumb, i stay away of those... 😛
waxen orbit
I’ve been in 7 throughout my life and even I can see fighting back in a situation like that is flat out fucking dumb
plush tendon
sometimes you cant help it; afterwards you question yourself like wtf was I doing
but in the moment, your body just goes
waxen orbit
Rough area
safe thistle
never mess with the King of the hill
waxen orbit
strong forum
in the moment? i just laugh and leave
plush tendon
I mean, lots of factors yea?
plush tendon
heated argument, maybe some booze, someone puts hands on you
blazing condor
what happened to live laugh love?
waxen orbit
what happened to live laugh love? <:sadge:820202363359854633>
Soccer moms. Soccer moms happened
blazing condor
u mean football
plush tendon
but again, Chris played it off well
blazing condor
nice
waxen orbit
Elite
plush tendon
in this instant
waxen orbit
waxen orbit
Chris’ health bar ain’t even budge
plush tendon
was kind of a bitch move if ya think about it
waxen orbit
That’s why I’m saying that shit faked
Looking at the vid, Will deadass laughed at the joke too
plush tendon
That’s why I’m saying that shit faked
ya know, that makes too much sense
wild hemlock
will was a bitch for the sucker punch. at least walk up aggressive so they know its coming
plush tendon
still, the meme is born
amber herald
find after the slap of will smith heckling him
plush tendon
will was a bitch for the sucker punch. at least walk up aggressive so they know ...
100%
wild hemlock
give him a little warning
blazing condor
he fragile as hell
amber herald
it's very aggressive and not fun
wild hemlock
i would be more embarrassed that i didnt let him know it was coming
waxen orbit
All this shit reminding me of the whole “entanglement” meme
wild hemlock
tell em youre gonan beat his ass or something on the walk up lmao
blazing condor
how can he slap?!?
dawn canyon
Stealing
wild hemlock
low tier meme imo
plush tendon
Theres no stealing in memes, only re-sharing 🙂
blazing condor
then why is it called a me-me ???
woven laurel
how are the prot warr buffs, good or not a huge impact?
blazing condor
strong forum
Pretty good, but won't suddenly turn us into meta tanks
limpid ruin
If I tell everyone that they do will I get more pug invites?
waxen orbit
No but you will get clowned on
woven laurel
Pretty good, but won't suddenly turn us into meta tanks
wasnt expecting that just want to be more appreciated!
dawn canyon
Tell them "huge pumper" idk
scenic mural
im gonna start practicing necro but im gonna iss spear go brr
strong forum
Well given that naowh just said on stream again that pwar sucks dick
Your chances aren't gonna be too swell when trying to get invites
jagged pier
woven laurel
Well given that naowh just said on stream again that pwar sucks dick
mindgames with blizzard
blazing condor
you know what i think
pwarrs actually ARE bad
we're just so deep into our cope that we somehow managed to become good
woven laurel
we thinkin necro or kyrian for m+?
strong forum
It seems that necrolord is slowly becoming the better choice for higher keys
woven laurel
It seems that necrolord is slowly becoming the better choice for higher keys
any reasoning as to why?
strong forum
More defensive cuz huge uptime on 21% str and 400 mastery
wild hemlock
fleshcraft, banner, more defensive
strong forum
And you ignore movementspeed slows
tropic linden
Hey @sweet summit , why u run ITTF instead of Ravager in that halls 23?
lofty widget
big executes
strong forum
He's trying it out for science iroh
woven laurel
More defensive cuz huge uptime on 21% str and 400 mastery
what tree to run?
strong forum
That's about it
sweet summit
^
strong forum
what tree to run?
Marileth
analog burrow
I did run necro for a top key once. It has some really high uptime and feels nice with execute. I do wish execute hit harder
urban portal
I did run necro for a top key once. It has some really high uptime and feels nic...
Pwar has the strongest execute in the game
Idk how much more you want
It's stronger than arms
scenic mural
i feel like i trouble with getting aggro on bigger/spread out pulls as necro
plush tendon
what pathing do i go for teh tree?
chrome falcon
my execute record so far is 42k so honestly if you need it higher than that you might want to play an expansion pre-stat squish
jagged pier
left at the bottom
jagged pier
and u dont run SoF
tropic linden
Are we using Merileth for M+ and raid?
woven laurel
thank you
chilly brook
literally homie is doing 11k dps from execute alone
jagged pier
Are we using Merileth for M+ and raid?
yes
safe thistle
even if we have the most powerful execute still in raid its brew and dk that were there and thats because they dont even need healing, healer only need to heal raid
meager locust
Peot war ex is as strong as arms
chilly brook
even if we have the most powerful execute still in raid its brew and dk that wer...
that's not even true though
meager locust
Its insanw
chrome falcon
it's stronger
urban portal
It's stronger
meager locust
True stronger
safe thistle
fury is strong too you can get your shout off them
urban portal
Prot execute tooltip is like double arms
plush tendon
left at the bottom
really? Ok. I was following the Wowhead one, but put the intervene one instead of the rally
jagged pier
really? Ok. I was following the Wowhead one, but put the intervene one instead o...
well yes but u should be going with sphere in bottom left and go there instead, and u run AAF or ashen instead of SoF
chilly brook
I mean it's not perfect
safe thistle
i see a brew not war
chilly brook
but acting like prot is some burden to your healers is kinda kekw
chilly brook
i see a brew not war
previously linked log
plush tendon
well yes but u should be going with sphere in bottom left and go there instead, ...
so its really Ashen over Show since Plague is a triple Pot
strong forum
yes
chilly brook
i see a brew not war
chrome falcon
Show does nothing
strong forum
ashen is big stonks
chrome falcon
Ashen makes one of the hardest hitting spells in the game crit 60% of the time
chilly brook
The idea that blood requires no healing is a meme
strong forum
but acting like prot is some burden to your healers is kinda kekw
thats just dumb people having no idea
ocean yoke
ashen owns
chilly brook
Blood just appears like it doesn't soak any healing
latent pier
I forgot how dumb ashen was. Thank you prot discord
chilly brook
but in general blood just deals with the big spikes but the healers top off
plush tendon
Blood requires roughly the same amount of healing as any other tank
chilly brook
although right now probably not as big since runic power is through the roof
latent pier
I don't have 2pc yet and I already have some dumb uptime on the banner
chilly brook
so they can afford to top themselves off a bit
plush tendon
until they just outgear the content
latent pier
If it's up for execute its fun time
safe thistle
how much difference we see from 2p to 4p
sweet summit
yuge
plush tendon
2 piece is more fun then 4 piece
chilly brook
even if I go to top healing parse for DK
plush tendon
but 4 piece adds a lot of damage
chilly brook
homie still needs 4k ehrps
safe thistle
i dont have 4p yet
sweet summit
it's an extra outburst every 30-40 seconds, + 10% damage +10% dam reduction
safe thistle
theres tomorrow buff too im hyped for
sweet summit
🙏
safe thistle
its not the best but its better than a will smith slap
meager locust
Ive logged 45-50% uptime of avatar in combat
That 10% damage reduction ontop always from buff tom will be nice
safe thistle
yah avatar come quick with AM
meager locust
If only they can add another 10% dam reduction from magic doe 😦
safe thistle
4p ppl not playing AM must be just dumb ?
sweet summit
yes
plush tendon
homie still needs 4k ehrps
NGL though, that Blood isnt healing a lot
chilly brook
NGL though, that Blood isnt healing a lot
The top blood log for healing
needs 4k ehrps
plush tendon
I mean, in the other log
chilly brook
and homie is doing 16k hps
plush tendon
are we lookign at the right one?
chilly brook
no I get what you're saying
lofty widget
you can, no?
chilly brook
Since you can't block tank hit
you can block lance
safe thistle
you can block lance
urban portal
Yeah but not laser beam
safe thistle
most healer doesnt even know that he keep using lance during intermissionn
chilly brook
I mean laser beam isn't bad
chrome falcon
no but you can pretty much always have SR/DS for the big beam
safe thistle
we switch every beam so it hit like a wet noodle
real thunder
Noob question, I hear people saying they now have more than they know to do with? When do you get THAT much rage? Outburst isn't always up so where does all the arge came from?
chilly brook
¯_(ツ)_/¯
urban portal
Play better
chilly brook
theres always 1 tank that get tank time on halondrus too
yea which would be sense in this log
chrome falcon
press last stand and see what happens
safe thistle
last stand + spear = full bar
real thunder
Yup with the conduit but that's only when last stand is up
plush tendon
I will say though, playing Blood on Ryg was night and day better then my Prot War
mighty valley
reprisal is already a lot of rage, now if you charge + avatar on pull your bar explodes immediately
chrome falcon
that's a crazy shitload of rage
charge+avatar+ss with reprisal and 4pc literally overcaps you
safe thistle
i waste too much rage i need to work on that it just keep cominggg and cominggg
i try to use it more on revenge over IP but revenge aint fast enough
mighty valley
we just gotta press both a lot
chilly brook
ARE YOU ZE?
no lol
chilly brook
I raid as fury chief
chilly brook
Sylvanas stole any desire I had left to continue tanking
I'm a washed orange-pink parser for prot
never 100s
chrome falcon
i'm just waiting for the rest of the good prots to get their 4 sets so i can go back to being purple/orange gamer instead of pink/yellow
chilly brook
I'm just glad this tier has no weird rng shard system
sweet summit
no new lfr next week right?
sweet summit
chilly brook
shard rng kinda made parsing aids
safe thistle
i will have to ask my co-tank brew to give me is piec ehes already 4p
echo egret
Xy'mox : if you pull people to you with the debuff, and they "fly" over a ring, do they get hit ?
safe thistle
no
sweet summit
they fly over
echo egret
okay
deft vortex
hey guys i need help deciding between 3 trinkets for M+. Overwhelming power crystal at ilvl255, Bladedancer's armor kit at ilvl255, and Pulsating Rift Shard at ilvl 252?
distant crystal
wait wut
p sure if you pull ppl through the ring on xymox they get clapped
the tank succ?
chilly brook
hey guys i need help deciding between 3 trinkets for M+. Overwhelming power crys...
bladedancers is bad
safe thistle
they fly over it and dont get hit
chrome falcon
@distant crystal nope they definitely don't that's the whole strat on mythic
fight would be literally impossible otherwise
jagged pier
p sure if you pull ppl through the ring on xymox they get clapped
nope u can pull ppl through the ring
distant crystal
i know they get hit by traps and will take portals in the way
jagged pier
yes
chilly brook
analog burrow
yes <:okayge:917646812519739433>
I know it's for the tier set but I feel like heavy recup uptime can be good in a dungeon
waxen orbit
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LMFAO
OUTTA POCKET
jagged pier
<@!203999248931356673> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/560228184587632643...
#off-topic for these memes now boys
waxen orbit
Yessirski
chilly brook
<#238061143497768960> for these memes now boys
waxen orbit
We violated the holy rule
safe thistle
my keyboard is dying which one should i switch too ?? i dont want any corsair
safe thistle
unless i can get that spacebar fixed somehow
safe thistle
base keyboard could survive atmoic bomb
safe thistle
i dont like corsair logicial
sweet summit
i ordered a ducky 
safe thistle
never heard of ducky
safe thistle
program
safe thistle
ya
safe thistle
who rebinded the moving key as E/S/D/F so to allow better pressing and binding of other key?
sweet summit
no that's weird 
strong forum
i move by pressing my laptop mousepad
sweet summit
that's even worse
distant crystal
I have a bicycle pedal under my desk for moving forward/backward
floral schooner
I send a telegram to my wife and she move my character for me
chrome falcon
i simply become my character and play the game from within the game
it is not hard
idk this mage tower is just easy for me
plush tendon
who rebinded the moving key as E/S/D/F so to allow better pressing and binding o...
I havnt, but I know people who have
and it makes good sense
just too used to WASD
blazing condor
who rebinded the moving key as E/S/D/F so to allow better pressing and binding o...
mouse gang
plush tendon
am a real gamer and have a mouse with 16 buttons
could never get used to the one I had
went back to a mouse without all the side buttons
mighty valley
i'm an esdf sicko
sweet summit
wtf
chrome falcon
if i could rewire my brain to esdf i probably would
chrome falcon
same like if i tried to learn to do that i would int every piece of content i did for like a month
mighty valley
I switched over in burning crusade so I've had some time to adjust lol
robust yacht
lol i started in the quake days rebinding to ESDF so i've been used to it :X
literally 2 of us in the world 😮
sweet summit
not real
amber herald
a real gamer plays with esdf and a 16 button mouse
amber herald
anything other than that and you're not really playing the game
latent pier
Random question, does reflecting a spell still stop regeneratin'?
strong forum
shouldnt
latent pier
might switch to zandi so was thinking of some techs like that situationally
strong forum
🤔
strong forum
their animation are awful imo
chrome falcon
tauren should be the only race allowed for prot warrior
strong forum
sweet summit
rule nr 1. vulpera banned
strong forum
one of the few races that is illegal to exist is tauren
urban portal
do taurens eat beef
chrome falcon
name 1 mechanic you actually need to see
sweet summit
dn
chrome falcon
banner+bl+avatar and you're about as big as lihuvim shit's tight
and bigger than this midget model of mal'ganis
blazing condor
cant run safeguard with 3p3e necro
sweet summit
sweet summit
?!
urban portal
Show them the power of your 165 conduit
safe thistle
Used to be an orc now love my new life as furry
Might go dark iron dwarf when we can be in same guild
safe thistle
Lol make him a swimming 🏆
woven laurel
what is the dps loss switching from kyrian to necro
craggy pilot
how much % Jailer HP is the aim for Phase 3?
safe thistle
We need a tuba/google helm....
chrome falcon
@craggy pilot we pushed him to like 35% at the start of p3 and still killed it with LITERALLY SEVEN people running into a hole while trying to soak the azeroth beam
So around 40% will be good enough, but the lower he gets the fewer defiles he'll cast
maiden ravine
what is the dps loss switching from kyrian to necro
is there a dps loss? It's more of a dps shift
woven laurel
is there a dps loss? It's more of a dps shift
personal dps loss
chrome falcon
it's an overall dps loss
unless your extra tankiness lets you pull bigger and harder
woven laurel
unless your extra tankiness lets you pull bigger and harder
i always pull big
maiden ravine
Thought Necrolord was overall more damage between high up time on the STR and the mastery
safe thistle
Who doesn't like it big
chrome falcon
on ST kyle
spear does a metric fuckton of damage, the str/mastery doesn't make up for that on aoe
woven laurel
spear does a metric fuckton of damage, the str/mastery doesn't make up for that ...
def not spear makes up 20% of my overall
maiden ravine
do we scale that poorly with STR?
safe thistle
the burst/utility of the spear/theter and its ready so quick
on fort week spear is so good
i think necro mihgt be better on tyra week though
maiden ravine
I might not pull big enough with spear then. It was 17.7% of my overall, add another 4% in for Mikanikos. I feel like 4p and having a constant 20% str would be about equal, if not as "bursty"
safe thistle
its not 100% uptime that easily
urban portal
20%str is never 20% damage
and you dont have 20% str constantly either
only 20% int is 20% damage
20%str is like, 12-16% damage
maiden ravine
eh? The damage formulas aren't that different
urban portal
a part of a non int class's damage is in weapon dps
ive ran the sim giving myself 10% str
it doesnt come out to be 10% damage
urban portal
did you get your 265 conduit
safe thistle
dunno i miss the extra dps button kyr/nf give though 😛
blazing condor
but i think i had ok uptime on the banner
urban portal
maiden ravine
I liked NF a lot more than Kyrian
safe thistle
nf is the way to go for street anyway
blazing condor
where do i check for banner uptime btw?
log didnt work for some reason but for future ref
urban portal
its the best you got
blazing condor
yeah true
maiden ravine
Every 240 rage spent with 2p refunds 30 if used on slam which helps feed into Anger Management and every pop of Avatar is 45 rage with 4p.
A little shocked that name hasn't been reported yet.
urban portal
i got better names
i had a 6 day vacation
im trying to get this name reported
so i get another name change
if yall wanna report me now yall are welcome
im unsubbing for a week
strong forum
:susge
chilly brook
if yall wanna report me now yall are welcome
I wouldn’t report you for a funny name
tropic linden
our buffs come tomorrow right?
urban portal
ye
tropic linden
I think we can SR all Riftmaw from Skolex now
urban portal
dont think you can SR riftmaw in heroic
blazing condor
normal strats pog
urban portal
tropic linden
dont think you can SR riftmaw in heroic
Not for the reflect, for the 20% DR
crystal iris
@chilly brook dont you find it wierd that the weak aura shows IP uptime over SB ?
the SB part is so tiny
chilly brook
<@!133532617940140032> dont you find it wierd that the weak aura shows IP uptime...
nah
chilly brook
the SB part is so tiny
underneath your IP there's a progress bar showing the remaining time on SB
chilly brook
¯_(ツ)_/¯
not really a big deal tbh
just need to know if you have block rolling or not
upper spoke
Are there any cool SL engineeering recipes?
upper spoke
cr?
sweet summit
combat ress
upper spoke
oh ok. thanks. no helm like bfa, tho?
upper spoke
oh nice
blazing condor
Member cardboard assassin?
dawn canyon
i member
upper spoke
so engineering is 1 profession. i have most old recipes, so i wont drop it. recommendation for second? i just hit the part where a SL crafter wants to give me a legendary recipe (i think), and because i got tailoring as a placeholder, it's trying to give me tailoring recipes
broken stratus
Anyone know why people saying codex works better for other tank than prot war?
upper spoke
i wouldnt mind inscription or for gold, but if you say I should get blacksmithing or something i will do that
broken stratus
It’s 10% after mitigation?
dawn canyon
you dont want to be crafting your own lego its ULTRA expensive to level up
upper spoke
ah ok
dawn canyon
what i recommend is a side one for making gold gathering or crafting
whichever you prefer
jagged pier
It’s 10% after mitigation?
the damage it does is calc'd after mitigation yes, but its still like flat 10% dr for us so its really good defensivly
upper spoke
i read missives sell ok, so i was leaning towards inscription. what do you mean by crafting?
broken stratus
Thanks Jakey!
upper spoke
yah ty for advice
urban portal
so engineering is 1 profession. i have most old recipes, so i wont drop it. reco...
alchemy
double flask
vernal vale
Next week is necrotic I believe. Anyone have the kyrian soul bind for phial clearing stacks. I've been nightfae all expac.
strong forum
no need
kyrian phial naturally clears basically all debuffs so you can just run mikanikos
vernal vale
Oh, sweet.
strong forum
necrotic is nerfed so hard that kleia is defo not needed to be played
vernal vale
Thankfully.
viral axle
Is Necro worth it without 4 set or should i wait to switch to it until i get it?
mighty valley
seems worth in raid at 2set, waiting on 4set to try it hard in keys
lofty widget
i wouldnt play necro until at least 2 set
wont have the rage to maintain banner without it
strong forum
You can play necro in raid as soon as you want
But 2p/4p is gonna make it alot stronger than without obv
You can more easily play nf/Kyr cuz it's just press this CD and you already got all of your value out of it
chrome falcon
@lofty widget not really true you can hit 50-60% banner uptime with just 2 legendaries
lofty widget
that doesnt make it worth it over kyrian imo
strong forum
I assumed it was about raid
strong forum
In keys yeah don't play it until minimum 2p
crystal iris
feels weird tanking without divine toll tbh
coral widget
tried that streets route with the 1 dude invis doing the market and going left and it was much much easier. Thanks for the tip
crystal iris
damn im healing like a pally tank now
like overcapping on rage and IP and spamming revenge
hardest part of necro is SB uptime with me chainpulling like a madman to keep banner up
waxen orbit
Shouldn't be a problem
You're running reprisal right?
Uptime doesn't really matter so much as effective uptime and damage blocked
But still, I manage about 83% uptime on average overall at the end of keys as necro
old flame
Question, why sphere instead of undulating?
mighty valley
which one is undulating again?
old flame
the fake stagger
bottom of marileth tree going right and getting finesse conduit
or go right and take sphere
old flame
right. and I guess the smoothing isn't that critical even in raid?
crystal iris
But still, I manage about 83% uptime on average overall at the end of keys as ne...
I’m usually aiming for 80% or higher blocked
But y’a if you’re chain pulling big packs % blocks starts to look like uptime %
mellow harbor
Necro does feel really good, I held a banner for 2 mins and 30 seconds literally the entire boss fight
chrome falcon
Remember to just repop it when it comes up even though it hurts
Would kill for it to be off GCD
cinder dirge
off gcd would be damn good ye
it's rly frustrating to be forced to use it before pulling a pack
It looks like it is nothing but you can lose aggro super easily by using banner AFTER charging
and get someone killed
chrome falcon
Yeah I only do that if I have CS ready
crystal iris
Remember to just repop it when it comes up even though it hurts
even though it hurts?
chrome falcon
Yeah if you have 8 seconds left on banner and you pop banner
You don’t keep those 8 seconds it just goes back to 15
But you want to rebuff your group and get Kevin back so
crystal iris
ah I dont think ive run a high enough key for that lol
trinkets from this season that we like?
the taz one?
Ive got an old S2 scale and OWS heroic
chrome falcon
Aegis bis until the end of time
scenic mural
Not many good dungeon options, i run codex and scale
crystal iris
I know my pally has 252
but not this guy
and im not going back in there anytime soon
chrome falcon
Defensive bis probably aegis and codex
crystal iris
thats why I specified this season
chrome falcon
Codex and scale probably ok I guess defensively
crystal iris
guardian druid nerfs incoming
mellow harbor
There's a post?
true sparrow
How does Rygelons corrupted strike work? it hits for, say, 100, you block and take 25, then you take 25 dmg/sec from wound?
but you cant really gauge how bad it is from the stack count?
crystal iris
Warrior new HPS tank? 3.8k overall
only mashing IP to dump exess rage in between globals, still did like 9k DPS
some doofus made a NW +15 group with no kyrian..
mossy ferry
The "Thank you for your feedback regarding this bonus!" on the notes for the Guardian 4p nerf is doing a LOT of work.
"Please stop writing forum posts about this."
latent pier
was that set bonus the reason guardian was so cracked
or are they still cracked damage just less cracked
mighty valley
the set bonus is cracked but won't be uncapped cracked
so they won't be able to go quite so hog wild
think they'll still be the meta tank though
for m+
oblique heath
the set bonus is cracked but won't be uncapped cracked
thank the heavens, hope
scenic mural
for bears being meta, they dont have much representation in say top 50 for m+
i dont think, correct me if im wrong
oblique heath
I just hope we can stay be in a good spot at the star of expansions vs the end
*start
thick charm
What is the cov for prot war now with double leggo and 2 pic or 4 pc tier?
mighty valley
the very top is pretty diverse for tanks
and then around the ~20 level there's a ton of bears
scenic mural
i was suprised yet unsuprised to see so many veng dhs, almost made me dust mine off
oblique heath
hopefully we see more wars if these buffs and IP can keep our healer dpsing a bit longer
pallid isle
Defensive bis probably aegis and codex
My codex wasn't doing a whole lot by itself. is it only good in double defensive? (18 SoA ~277hps, ran codex and H OWS)
or is that just cause its SoA
thick charm
necro is coming to be bis
unless I have 4 pc?
scenic mural
isnt it like a 30-40% uptime on 10% DR?
scenic mural
unless I have 4 pc?
especially if u have 4 p
thick charm
especially if u have 4 p
ok. I still have 1 more pc to go. And will start to practice for Prot war. CUrrent main is fury
need more guideness
Do we need to change the talent to outburst?
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=364010/outburst
urban portal
for bears being meta, they dont have much representation in say top 50 for m+
cuz bear is bad in raid
early on in the tier most ppl are playing on their raid chars
scenic mural
fair, but so are VDHs
latent pier
What makes vdh so popular? Just the utility sigils?
They seem like actual dog ass for taking hits
urban portal
fair, but so are VDHs
vdh is also really bad in raid
scenic mural
vdh is also really bad in raid
which was my point. they are pretty common in top 50 while being ass in raid
sick spade
necro is coming to be bis
Which soulbind?
scenic mural
marileth
sick spade
Ty
tender oyster
When my dbm states “defense” whil tanking a boss, i assume it wants active mitigation. Is shield block enough? Or do i need to ensure i have block + IP up too?
mighty valley
You just need to know the fight and your own strength... some of them will really want a big CD like shield wall
Don't worry about IP uptime too much, if you're playing right you'll generally get enough IP just by pressing it to avoid overcapping rage
oblique heath
Don't worry about IP uptime too much, if you're playing right you'll generally g...
love to hear it
scenic mural
i think its better defensively than offensively no? idk i just know its one of the only real defensive options from dungeons
and were you carrying the rogue and the hunter?
mighty valley
yeah it's definitely not a damage trinket, don't run it in easy keys
limpid lion
codex is garbo did a 15 carry and it was awful
the damage codex reflects is calculated after mitigation
also the damage it does is directly proportional to the damage taken meaning it will do more damage in higher keys
plucky hearth
and were you carrying the rogue and the hunter?
yeah
limpid lion
but yea it should be a pretty dog trinket for prot since a lot of damage prot takes is heavily mitigated
thick charm
you just get it passively
ok thanks
mighty valley
strong for survivability, that's all
limpid lion
it's also a stam trinket which means you are losing mainstat that would otherwise be on your trinket slot
ie more damage loss
scenic mural
stop it i like it, big hp = big checks
jagged pier
but yea it should be a pretty dog trinket for prot since a lot of damage prot ta...
Codex is not a bad trinket for prot its literally a 10% damage reduction, and it does actually decent damage depending on what your doing things like rygelon and jailer aand high keys the trinket is amazing
jagged pier
Codex is not a bad trinket for prot its literally a 10% damage reduction, and i...
Ppl need to stop judging things by the damage they do, aegis does mothing yet is still bis.
scenic mural
now we can just say when its brought up
urban portal
Well let's do some quick math, in ergas key he took average hit of 7.3k, so 10% of that would be 730. AMR says it's 2.5 ppm, assuming erga has 30% haste, it'll be 3.25 ppm. This would equate to bout 40 hps