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it's the other collector spell that's random
So I just resubbed and am learning the new affix, is there a general orb you guys kill for trash/boss to keep it simple or does it really change a bunch depending on the group/fight
drain life?
Almost always Urh
urh is great
Na they cast curse, bolt and collect sins
when you refelct the curse on them, does it hurt the melee when it goes off, like to people need to run out of it if you reflect onto the mob
(talking from a fury perspective since it wont target tanks)
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Think it just negates it
i don't remember
i know the mists one does damage to your party still
no the red circle 100% goes onto the mob
and the SD one too lol
I've never had curse cast on me so I wouldn't know
which cast in sd? 
Explosive anger
again, a dps thing though
but if your fury warr reflects that back onto the mob you better book it out of there lol
i'd treat this as the same
is your second pull of halls massive too?
the 2 casters and the little dudes and the pat with dogs?
You kinda always pull big in halls
^
I have trouble surviving the second pull usually because im out of defensives
Doesn't seem that massive of a pull
I usually pull left shard first pull. Then semi big pull with pat and some casters. Then the big pull with pat+casters+groundskeepers before right shard
Then shard
But its probably not meta nowdays
Most of those mobs do blockable dmg, dogs are just dogs
Havent done hoa since like early s2
it's not massive, pretty standard pulls there
thats what I do when i dont want to be too fancy skipping stuff
ya the standard massive pulls lol
the dogs suck though
dogs fuck
and inspiring makes casters fuck harder
They don't suck if they actually die
rest is free %
I usually do what Dog said

i also does the old pull same as Dog
Dog
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after first pull i do the 2 casters with patrol maybe the other 2 casters
which is still pretty big. if its a higher key i wont touch the patrol ever
I have yet to start researching m+ strats for this season
Hard with rwf and all
So i am behind on it i usually read up at least
But i assume not super much has changed
only thing I do differently is pull the groundskeepers with the patrol before the last shard
to get Urh
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That's mine hoa route
pretty standard
I wondering for sometime... Is this a dog with a crown, or crown with a dog ?
I run it 2x aka 20+
yeah i've just started looking at what pulls others do
learning a few good strats here and there
i am who i am and its up to the masses to define me @west walrus
exactly. and then adjusting those to your own playstyle / affixes
really nice groundskeeper pull into boss
You are still Goodstuffe in my heart
funnel damage for rogues and others and no problem with 2 gargoyles anyway
But you gain a lot of insight
Goodstuffe, i remember that guy
going to try that next run
who? 
I could probably use a second defensive trinket. My pally has a 252 Aegis but on warrior ive got OWS and Scale from S2
I am goodstuffe
yes there was a video where Golden Guardian explained a +20 NW they did in about 13mins - the explain vid is 45mins long or something like that, but very very interesintg. ofc normal players cant do such a run, but you learn a lot about things you should be aware of
Can we do similar damage to bears and pallies with 4p and seismic meme build or no and do we need 4p for it.
Weβre all goodstuffe in one way or another

Considering the fact that I saw a bear do 27k on first boss of mists with 17k overall DPS id say no one can touch bears
A good bear does 16-22k dps in keys
A good everyone else does 11k
So yeah, nobody gets even close to bear
Whenever they enter incarn they pulse 1k dmg and 1k healing ever 0.9sec (hasted)
Entirely uncapped
lol
(scales with ap)
do you not run ravager?
i usually do
:))
was just playing around with itf
whiuch CD banner has?
2
80% uptime :)
I assume we want to wait for outburst before popping avatar to not waste it?
Ok I want to try seismic. I feel the buffs tomorrow defensively will let us get away with it instead of reprisal maybe 15-19. Any tips to maximize damage other than just revenge spam lol
yes kinda, duru
Obviously stay within spear
i delay avatar if at 6 or more SR stacks
I just miss the rage you get on pull from reprisal
I can only mongo-play seismic
Not like deswind-play it and actually stay alive in higher keys
Its glass cannon baybe
between needing SB and maybe an IP on pull, i run out of rage quickly trying to get value from seismic
Tier helps with that
ss is like full rage bar eh?
45
so ya
now THIS is gaming (overall in streets 20)
But you get outburst like every 10-15sec
h o t
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Somebody didn't click overall 
baited
still decent

Ya is big
necro soulbind?
Kevin
its probably around 85-90% combat time
I might just play that to not have to change conduits
@lofty widget can i see your streets route 
you said something about skipping left and right yesterday. got me curious
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ty king
i do too
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and make the ultimate streets route β’οΈ
do we know next affixes yet?
spiteful, necrotik
not bad
hate necrotic cringe affix
but supposedly chill
Do any encrypted get affected by affixes? Either the ad itself or the spawned miniboss
Like inspiring
Always a damn thing
cope
Or they just inconsistant as fuck
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L + lost the run to fire toremntor
worth to fleshcraft midpull?
Who couldnt get interrupted
Okay here
|| w ||
so SB then fleshcarft
Whomst wanna boost me in raids i have no guild
since 9.0.5 change u can block/dodge/parry ye

gonna miss this though
what are you playing?
Marileth?
is that not marileth
no thats emeni
yup
rap godess
although this is nice too
bottom left and pick up CAS
will do more than stagger and rally isn't huge in keys
also ashen>SoF
its from wowhead relax haha
Die sof die
also ill put ashen on when i start using execute
when I stop fearing for my life
Execute directly increases survivability


So start using it on 3 or less targets, or on prio targets
-40 rage + 15 rage?
What else you gonna use the rage for?
40+20%(?)
It's there to be used
ya ill use it if ive got SB up and IP
Don't think too hard about IP.
You won't ever get to use execute if you want IP up all the time
exactly lol im a wimp tho
once i get comfortable sure
step out of your comfort zone
How good are the Prot buffs?
Atleast 7
poggers
I am by trying prot again lol
one more step
timed all my 21s on pally last season, but warrior scares the shit out of me
PTSD to last season bricking 5 15s in a row not surviving first 10m of halls
Do u lust first pull?
That's probably cuz you're trying to play pwar like prot pally
You gotta play differently
I been bricked a lot 15 as protection
Play around different things
I get bricked up playing protection
how so? Also I was pwar before ppal
Same
I'm just saying probably probably, not definetely
In fact I play ppal like a warrior trying to take 0 damage and up my block as much as possible lol
Are servers down? I reactivated a few hours ago, so I haven't picked up the maintenance schedules
Servers should be up
id suggest logging your runs, at first i came here seeking help, guys are nice they will tell what to do
like i learnt that i was spamming ip for no reason, not enough casts and etc
servers were down? lol ive been half half afk messing with addons and stuff
which helped me a lot personally
Idk I played until 2 hours ago, then took a break. I was disconnected and now receive login errors
ya i think login servers are dead/dying
I godda say the current iteration of prot warrior is actually a lot of fun if you play it right and try to game Seeing Red well. I highly suggest a WA that shows you guys your stacks so you can ideally game it right and hit a Shield Slam with the max stack buff. The difference in Rage is insane. It's just another step of nuance to playing Prot Warrior well
ya this iteration is loads of fun with this tier set
I haven't played any other tank outside of BDK but I feel like Prot has to play a lot more nuanced to be good in a raid
oh yeah, guess login server maintenance? as im very much logged in currently
Which I like
6 hours of login server maintenance? ouch
And it's a never ending rage fest with healers that keep wanting you to spam Ignore Pain essentially
which I don't think is the right play at all lol
what is tier?
I wonder how much different it'll feel with the changes tomorrow
Baby dont hurt me?
ive been online semi AFK since this morning at 9
yeah had i known, i wouldn't have allowed connection to timeout
just when i was getting into it
seeing near 30k Seeing Red Shield slam crits bricks me up hard
It's just that dungeon and boss design is absolutely fucked compared to bfa
Yea I feel VERY tanky tbh. This raid does not seem too bad on tanks excluding some outlier bosses
yes, 1st pull, 2nd boss, 4th boss
And we have such a versatile tool kit with talents and legendaries to really combat any of thes bosses
only complaint
is that they split intercept
into charge and intervene
so double time has to be a talent
and not baseline
Yea
imagine never wanting to play Dtime
its like not wanting bounding strides
FOREVER BOUNDING AND DTIME
mobility godssssssss
real
there is something about a zooming big ass tauren
everyone has such a hard on on bears. yes they are insane and carry a lot of the DPS right now but I've had 2-3 bears tank keys for me when I went DPS and they all did absurd DPS but died on some trash pulls without CDs
idk how I feel about a playstyle like that
being super engorged only every few minutes and then being a paper tank outside of it
idc about this as much as I want Shield Slam to purge again
slamming someone and they lose a buff

'member when heroic throw silenced? 
Shield slam randomly cleanses a party member of a debuff
mop
the good ol times
ah didnt play mop
Gag order, glyph
was earlier, I stoped before mop
im a wrath baby, ended at the end of cata and came back in legion
Just give me back WoD prot
why did they get rid of glyphs
π ββοΈ
griff
remember stance dance π
they didnt?
no
I want my DPS prot spec
real glyphs
not cosmetics
but why are they gone
Yeah its why inscription exists in the first place

blizzard didn't want to balance it and the other bs systems they keep putting on top of it

remember unending rage?
Thats just my personality
no
"too complicated"
im super drowning in rage lately
i started fr in bfa
oh
I had 170 rage in legion
fucking sometimes hitting overcap cuz i cant spam spells fast enoguh

or i have a Max IP already up but sit at 100 rage
so before that is just 2nd hand information
shield slam purge is sorely missed tbh
but i guess it still loops into Anger management
Overcapping rage is infinitely worse than capping IP
i usually press it anyways, still feels shit
give me another spell that does damage instead
Stop feeling like shit
stop feeling?
Ye
Press F to Ignore Pain
That ur bind for it?
IP hasn't felt good since emerald nightmare
E
You do have that...
its too tiny man that shit sucks ass
yes
Is literally baked into Indomitable
how does it not feel the same then lol
back then you didnt even need a healer 90% of the time
youd just blast solo 20 mobs
lol
ah thats it
didn't they rework some shit going into bfa too
it was more absorb then, got it
with mitigation
They reworked block
idk i just know i did insane amounts of healing and self healing then
It was 30% baseline mitigation pre-BFA
and you could solo bosses like a VDH almost
Now block scales with block value, you didn't have that in legion
pre-SL?
So block is stronger now
are they patching anything or is this just maintenance?
maintenance
got it
getting 4% hp back when your IP is caped at 6x and absorbs 90% of damage
is a huge difference in feeling
than 4% at 50%
^
how big were health pools back then
yuge
Can't compare
millions
and while we are at it, give me Neltharions fury again. i loved pressing that eventhough it seemed to be a kind of hated spell
In legion tanks had like 10mil HP at the end of antorus
but the class fantasy was pretty on point with that shit
Bdks had up to 22mil hp
thats a bit silly
lol
Nelthatrion's Fury was good
Cuz their hp scaled with dmg intake
It was just situational
Or some shit
and did like no damage
exactly
if i knew a big monster hit was coming and I had Nelths ready I knew i wouldnt die
felt good
i looooved to press it
it was goated on KJ
MY MAN
Like legit a "I take no damage" button during KJ
Yeah if Nelth fury did literally 10-15x more damage it would have been about on par with the other stuff
Fucked up those mana wyrms in upper kara real good though π
nfury was epic for felclaws though
tried this, this route is nutty 
keladan alive pog
π

Where that Pantheon kill video at doe
Also @shut summit do you ever have your guildies or healers cry and ask why you play Prot warrior when there are "so much better" other tank classes out there? lmao
thanks now I'll just delete my shield
wait ppl do that?
π
yup
Legit have had healers make comments yea
Is that because you are the GM or because they know Prot is actually good
lmao
They don't like my responses
in the 2 guild ive been in doing mythic never had that π€·
"Why don't you IP more, why don't you XYZ"
probably because you don't have shit healers
I usually say 'I'm sorry, would you like to tank?'

"Your class is bad because you need external help to stay alive while a Brew doesn't"
cuz we dont do splits and dont require people to play x or y meta class so isnt expected of tanks to do it either
Neither do we but it's still annoying
i did get asked this by the GM on slyv but when i explained one heartseeker arrow gets rid of it and ill just adjust some cds he was quiet after that π
I say "yea my bad I forgot you'd rather sit AFK than to do damage when there is no healing to be done, but you can't even do that properly so I guess it makes sense"
I always found it funny when healers think your class is bad because you have to ask for externals during luls
Imagine not using externals XD
Exactly.... we CAN figure out how to game any inadequacies
Shift stuff around
Make small strategy changes whatever
well it was my first night on slyv they had killed it i was still trying to figure out cds myself but ended up having no issue when i sort my cds out
Sylvanas was poop for Prot tbh
OH wait, avatar gives you outburst without restting stacks of seeing red
@sweet summit
I loved P3 prog on Sylv. P1 was shit. P2 less shit but shit. P3 was great. And tanking sylvannas was easy once you figure out timings and play your defensives right. Never felt inadquate
I found p3 to be the worst actually
plz vault dont fuck me again, give 4pc
swapped to my BDK for that for a reason; you can just one man army shit much harder as blood
p1/p2 wasn't bad
π
My 1st vault had a 278 haste trinket and a 265 shield and the rest was even worse
and i thought you already had 4 piece
sense doing more damage than all ppl with 4 set please dont get it @shut summit no one will be close
did LFR for first time in idk how long

still didnt get
you need legs?
ok, thats desperate
gloves/helm
I only have 2 piece, but even I'm not that desperate
same. i refused to do it week 1
did it week 2
nothing
Imagine not having 4pc and not slamming LFR tier bosses every week
casuals
Unfortunately
no, its called self respect
the two pieces I need
aren't in lfr
our zenith strugglin
ive only actually ever only looted 1 tier piece ever
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lol my guild is the same. I am the only senith boy needing a 4 set
I need a helmet or shoulders
my 2nd vault had a 278 tier chest
luckily though, as a raid of we will have like 17 people with 4 piece
which is Gucci
π
and more 3 piece then 2 piece π
MWAAHHH
Is it just me or is every guild have Venerated token finished for their team
pika
Pala/priest/shaman have had 4 set for so long T_t
which one is that one?
you ever seen Mystic tier drop off from Anduin-Ryeg
you already know thaqt the game always feeds loot to the shitters first
its druids and hunters and mage for us
was mystic for us, they've been rolling for tertiaries
our hunters are giga geared
Its fine.... I RL..... theyll put me in their backpack
like all 7 of them have 4 set
lol
Venerated have it best because if your a DPS shaman, your competing basically with healers XD so you will get your 4set first
literally I'm sitting at less than 1k damage behind our 4 set gamers
zenith have it best. nobody plays monk anymore and you usually only have 1 in the raid
only two more weeks lads....
I'm gonna be slapping when I get my 4 set
maybe 1-2 warriors (eventohugh lately it seems more)
and what was the third class in zenith?
we have 4
I gotta start benching some
rogue

We're trying to arrange some saved healers for a Heroic Dreedful token run
ah yea
not having 4set is my issue 
rogue only uusally 1
rogue, warrior monk
zenith BIS
ill pump i swear 
bro legit it's the slowest
our zenith drops were giga
ours were dogshit
we pray to the almighty weekly box
3 4pc warriors, 4pc monk tank, 4pc rogue + 3pc rogue
3x 4 piece warriors
screw you and all of the other zxenith boys
u stole all the zenith
I finally got my boomy 4set this week
been going ham w/ bear keys
you mean hitting 1 button over and over?
Only takes 1-2 pulls before the healer starts giving me PI 
Umm I have to use fingers to dump rage sir
well, us warriors we use our fingers for other fine things
Every time the wow-news channel in my guild discord lights up
and Im not changing
I'm flabbergasted to not find bear nerfs
next week for sure 
next reset they may slightly nerf Demo locks
but i find they should buffer other classes over nerfing some too hard
its the last tier in arguably the worst expansion
yes yes don't nerf bears just buff the dmg of all tanks, healers, and dps specs in AOE
let ppl have some fucking fun
100%
I did have a shadowpriest beating me in Theatre tho
ideal
that guy was pumpin
never lose aggro
i dont have aggro issues ever really and if i do lose 1-2 mobs here or there we have a ton of ways to get them back
Ideal world, tanks are strong, can hold aggro, and do lots of damage so they can have fun π
multiple taunts... challenging shout is my favorite spell to steal all trash mobs from our off tank
so the puny paladin has nothing to hit
bear right now reminds me of the height of Vengeance tank meta
not the DH but the AP buff :p
Paladin gets to have all the fun doing like 20k DPS openers with ashen ^.^
fuckem. their threat sucks ass outside of CDs
then basically never trying to actively tank the boss so they can dps
or all prot paladinsds i did keys with may have sucked
cuz they cant hold aggro outside of CDs for shit
Honestly, Prot War does more damage then Paladins (in keys at least)
^
You see some really great specimins in pugs
naw, Prot just pumps
all the fotm rollers probably dont know what theyre doing
Like a prot pally with less interrupts overall than a mage
the tank I had the least amount of aggro issues with is a Vengeance Tank that knows how to play spirit bomb properly
Every pull you have divine toll ????
almnost never pull off them
Every pull I got spear
Divine toll is literally the larget aggro spell you can h it
Idk how you manage that, takes some meticulous shield aiming
to make sure you don't accidentally kick something
Its literally impossible to have paladin be the worst aggro tank lol
Im not saying its bad
Also prot pala permakicks entire dungeon
Divine Toll is stonks
fury warrior pulls threat off me all the time
Spear + Crystal plus some nice crits and shits on me like R kelly on underaged girls
but so is spear
hits 5 mobs 5x with shield then bashed the shit out of em like 4 times in a row
even after i spear ravager
no aggro issues when they have CDs
my prot pally does 45k for the firs 20s of a pull in M+
Fury warriors that start dpsing before mobs are gathered deserve to die LOL
outside of CDs i pull off so maybe the prot paladins ive done keys with suck ass
like DHs that use hunt first GCD
dh hunt into floor pov into brez
na, i allow my DPS to be monlgoids in keys when I tank
you know why?
also melee dps that get trucked by groundskeepers on the first pull of halls
Chaellenging shout + intervene + all other shit we have
other funny thing; Paladins 4 piece pulling shit by accident XD
What about fury warriors that wait 4 GCDs and still die

^
SAMEEEEEEEEE
part of the class
π¦
you know the right side after the first boss in Spires
We call those respectable deaths
the little tiger shits
So annoyed
arms is rly fun in keys
i said "IM GOING HAM in 4...3....2....1.."
The reason tanks lose aggro to tiger shits in Spires, is because they can't tank them for long periods of time
went in went ham
fury is too much button mashing
and now i was tanking tigers
Like it legit pisses me off
do you have 4p on both your brew and pala pika?
idk man. every tank can stand still and tank those tigets for 5-7 seconds
that I can't play the spec I'd like to
and then they kite
because so many bad tanks
@mighty cairn I only have 4 piece on my brew, my war + pala are 3 piece gamers
nice
Blood can tank them longer; parry prevents the bleed π
People shouldn't even be going ham on that Tiger pull -_-
Blood is nuts
@patent osprey saw you streaming warrior again, are you out of Brewmaster jail or is there nothing to gain from keys on your Brew now?
Like actually might gear blood
How 4p brew feel
its super fun
Blood does dummy damage
why not, fury CDs are short enough to be back for the next pull
so much RP you gotta run Bonestorm
plus the next pull has Urh
cause you cant spend it fast enough
does 4p bdk go fae?
but its so fun to haha
People just AOE the Kitties, but the praetor is literally what is killing the tank
no, Necro
Kill the praetor and the tank can get more aggro instead of trying to live
most tanks dont pull that praetor with tigers cuz they are scared
second, good tank will kite the tigers near the prateor
third
they dont have slappy hands thats why
because DPS see AOE and just AOE
If i was a full time pug tank, id also probably not pull it togeather because DPS just aoe -_-
you play frenzy on Tyran weeks
idk.... if you a right side gamer in spires.... it would feel bad NOT to pull the praetor with the tigers
That never happens cause the praetor jumps out when range don't stack
OOK OOK
that pull usually goes fine for me
^
but havent done it on a high key in a while
yea, I aint doing Plka keys
The pull goes fine for me in high keys, cause im yelling at my DPS to kill praetor
usually a rav + spear + some TC/Revenge helps
i just let him ass blast me with dark seeker π₯²
what r peopleβs thoughts on the double pull into double goliath pack
how do you pull them as prot without dying? leap onto the first ones and ravager the second?
itβs p funny
then you can just HT or taunt whatever is needed
need burst aoe to make it work
otherwise, not worth
bring Hunter, GG
need an rsham to kick
π
There is no perfect way, I usually TC the first 3 set, and then leap/ravager into the 2nd set
But i still die sometimes
yea, but thats left side
cause blizz is stupid to put invis mobs
right side is faster
mess up the big spell reflect my day is ruined
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyIMKiWpdU4
when i catch that praetor lacking with my spear
Dave Chapelle stand up.
All credit goes to Dave Chappelle!!!
thereβs birds on right side too
ok true
It is always best to go left after first boss, clear the 4 Skirimishers + 3 Etherdivers, and then go right for speed
theres a pack after double goliath pull
Who was it that tagged me yesterday about the pull bug?
probably me
Its undulating maneuvers that causes it, it wasnt grevious, grevious does it too though π
Erga did iirc
when you double with spear how do you live the pack before 2nd boss?
yep
LMAO??
Few ways
okay that's even worse
press buttons and live?
useless
IDK, maybe CC something if you scared?
CC the bird
ye just tested
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if you have a paladin they pre bop you and you run it to get them out of stealth
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try a lucky ravager at range to get them out
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shield wall and leap in. Maybe another external
Im actually playing alot of warrior on stream lately. I have 4 piece brew, but its kinda boring and I don't love it as much as pala/warrior. So this week I just got 3k on all my tanks to get conduits to max level ^.^ Ill start pushing more on pala/warrior when they have 4 set
never leap into a pull
it reflects 1 damage to anything i click
charge in, leap out for the kite
Charge into invisible mobs ?

lool
why would you
yes just see them 4head
Brb charging stealth mov
what about the fact that it pulls mobs not targeted?
thats why I said jump into first and ravager second
Yea if you have them targeted you obviously charge if your ravager hits them
I dont trust TC for first pack
Lmao
ravager right side, leap+tc left pack charge into praetor
make a dps use a ground effect
I'm not saying leap onto a pack you can see
nah, never had that, it pulls mobs you target cause it reflects dot damage to them
thats what i do but i mean i get stunned by 2nd pack anyway usually
just retested, pulled 10 mobs by clicking, for 1 dmg xD
my question isnt how to play prot warriors rotation lol. its how to get them out of stealth without hunter. obviouslt you charge into the pack once they arent invis anymore
hasn't killed me tho
did i just accidentally target them then? 
Blizzard 4head XD
im leaping into a pack I cant see
if we're talking about right side after first boss in spires
guess it's a good way for us to pull in mists? XDDD
And if you pre wall and just walk in you are usually fine
now that
oh well, the more you know
both of those pat, so if you leap in and miss one you get stunned eh
sounds like a dumb idea
at a high enough key level ur still dead through SW
any dot dmg remaining while codex is up, reflects 1 dmg:D
just waste a defensive and eat a 5s stun
not if you got splinter
The idea is to just never get stunned or ur dead LOL

just to avoid wasting leap on 1 pull
you're leaping into the unknown tho
You also want SW for the double goalith pull right after with the first pack
what are you talking about I know whats there!
its not unknown!
they patrol
yeah i just didn't expect environmental damage and all of that until now 
Should be back in time. Unless you pull goliaths and the path all at once
Then it probably isn't
yeah you do pull those togeather
servers really broken eh? there are like 4 listed keys rn
Most ppl split the twin Goliath the the first pull
And if you have a priest you just have them pop that shit they have that gives your CDR
Symbols of hope?
ya
i never get it right, somewhere around here
Is Symbols still broken with prot?
yeah the apex
idk it's broken w/ bear tho :p
but if your range dps still are not in melee, the praetors jump out and still kill u
symbol is a dps cd for bears
T_T

is the tiger stun RNG or is there something you can do to game it?
using last stand UF during lust for rage dps gain yay or nay
outside of bop
yay
The worst is when you tell mages to fking be in melee so they praetors don't kill you, but they mirror images at range and you still die -_-
also i think you could have an arms warrior parry intervene you befoe going in
DPS aren't people
but who play arms anymroe
I mean this broken
people who don't like incompetent tanks losing aggro
nah they fixed that pretty sure
you know VDH did the same thing but with their like 1 min cd
Fel dev op
played with a holy priest early weeks and didn't happen then
praetors jump to players
so if everyones in melee they dont jump
didn't know that lol cus aint no way everyone stacks ever
ranged DPS is stupid anyways
Exactly
yeah that is annoying
you tell em to stack and theyt think stacking is 15 yards away
I love this UI
BuT i DoNt WaNt To LoSe CaStS
its fine
we just wipe cuz now the mob gets to cAsTs
thanks I stole from other people
Rare
apperance
just wait til 9.2.5
9.2 is fine

9.2 actually good so far tbh
I uninstalled
can you link the prot WA?
as per usual they should have started this expansion at its current iterration
game sucks
And ubsubbed
patch good
and the game would have had double the player base now
only bad thing is getting revered for the unity recraft
no its not
its fine
ppl dont have to fucking clear half the raid in 2 weeks
difficulty is fine
9.2 is good, but it kinda took too long to get here, so me and many others are kinda burnt out
they nerfed heroic way too fucking fast
peopple shouldnt be complaining before 2x leggos and tier
didnt even consider the tier and double leegdnarys being a thing
the moment the 2nd week came out and ppl got 4 set heroic got 5x easier
moment double leggo was a thing heroic is now like LFR
Double Legendary is so beans for prot warrior compared to other classes π¦
they nerfed it the week before double leggos and now heroic is a joke
necro and kyrian ones are kind of cool
I used Khakhans as well for a long time
BIS UI
Lux is nice but i like khakans better
Kyrian one is almost not impactful at all, just doesn't feel fun. All you get is crit with kyrian spear
I Use Quazi for the buff bar but I never actually look at the abilities
and an extra 4s
seeing red is so much fun though
are you tracking it
yes
or you just going about your rotation
definitely track it
It makes spear hit harder though
cuz if you track and game it well its so fulfilling
getting those SS max stacked in feels fantastic
in fairness it is a significant amount of damage
the rage you get is insane
Avatar->BV->Spear->BOOM
the problem is getting a Seing Red stack but SS being on CD and you dont have enough rage for revenge to hope and fish for a proc
so now its eiter sit on the proc and dont Tclap
or tclap
@fluid beacon
clap before spending the rage
ez fix
thats all fine and dandy unless you have to pop a IP
and now u proc'd Seein red
its a lot of nuance
but it makes it funnnnnn
but Glory in Raid is really fun
i have this
and seeing how long you can keep it π



