no 😦
#protection
old flame
sweet summit
no?
old flame
lfr opens wings every other week
old flame
helm anyway right? since that's from anduin and we haven't gotten him on normal yet
I know I know, scrub guild
sweet summit
yeah i'd take helmet here
old flame
haste vers is good stats too
sweet summit
yep!
old flame
thanks! we should be able to push to anduin in one of our next raid nights and then prog him (crab and x'ymox gave us the most trouble) lithium was pretty cake, just need time on anduin lol
mighty valley
Anduin's complicated for your average normal guild but he just got hit with another round of big nerfs
craggy pilot
what kind of nerfs?
chrome falcon
big add inside hp got blasted
so you can probably do everything in both kingsmournes
mighty valley
yeah, anduin hp nerf, big downstairs add hp nerf, and wicked stars do a lot less damage
plus stealth nerf of making the vfx on the downstairs ground splats better
shut summit
🔨
craggy pilot
we were hard stuck on Normal Anduin monday in guild
no one in my guild was saving CDs for down even after i told 🤦
had a guy say "this fight is probably tuned for 4 piece"
mighty valley
just rare that a normal fight ever gives a shit about where you use your CDs lmao
craggy pilot
tru
hollow citrus
Anyone with tier wanna run SOFO? Got heroic tier legs and gloves if anyone has other parts and would like to run with the intention of trading. Send me a message in disc.
craggy pilot
if i want an addon that does something similar, but isnt ElvUI 🤔
just raid frame addon
is Grid2 the best option i guess?
radiant magnet
it has a lot of healing functions, but works for raidframes
frosty holly
I run vuhdo. Because it's so damn easy to set up. Helps for alts also. Like i can bind on paladin for example BoP/LoH/Sac easily just on the frames
Middle Mouse on Frame is LoA. If not on frame. It's something else
radiant magnet
theyre both good. play with one for a week, then the other for a week, then pick
craggy pilot
do they have profiles which can be easily swapped to other characters?
craggy pilot
ill try it out real quick thx
hoping they have a test mode
so i dont have to go into lfr :>
craggy pilot
test mode for different sizes?
craggy pilot
like can i make a diff view for 5 man, 10man 20man 40man?
radiant magnet
exactly that
civic torrent
This sounds really dumb, but what exactly does the block value contribute to on a shield, how can we value the VG shield vs one with secondaries?
I tried googling but couldn't find an answer for retail
gaunt dawn
Block value is the amount you block for
Should be shown in game when you mouseover block on the stat window
civic torrent
So it's a flat value?
gaunt dawn
Yeah but you can also crit block as a warrior
civic torrent
Some information I've come across says it's 30% dr for blocking
craggy pilot
you can hover your block, and see the % you block
gaunt dawn
I think I've got it all explained on tanknotes
civic torrent
I'll take a look, thanks Panth
gaunt dawn
Nah it's all chance stuff there
Value is just tooltiped
Uses the same calc as armor tho
Block / block + k
eager lodge
we got 2 pc today boys
gaunt dawn
Yeah it's an interesting concept
And prevents then from having to make bosses do silly amounts of damage
To go through your ever increasing armor
safe thistle
do you sue a wa for keeping track of outburst or just play as always and enjoy the free perks
mighty valley
i'll probably use one, you really don't want to spend it on thunderclap ever, especially not in single target
civic torrent
SS = at least 45 rage which is 2 revenges which is stronger than a 200% stronger TC, however to be honest I fish for a shield slam with revenge if its on CD and if I dont get it I TC
just to use the proc
urban portal
yeah the tc proc kinda blows
hollow hill
252 Elegy of the Eternals or 252 Pocket Protoforge with 52 avoidance?
I have 262 alchemy stone as my other trinket
thinking of dropping alchemy stone actually and getting a different 262 crafted piece
cinder nova
Any way to farm Enlightened rep?
ionic fern
Any way to farm Enlightened rep?
twin raptor
19 NW on reprisal
what trinket do you use? do you have tier set?
waxen orbit
what trinket do you use? do you have tier set?
Aegis and dogshit 246 phial
Don't forget the dogshit
jagged pier
thats standard NW damage no?
jagged pier
exactly standard NW damage as i said
waxen orbit
Idk if I'd say that's standard for a defensive build for most people when we're undergeared for content
But standard for last patch on a low key with damage shit yea
lofty widget
can someone help me with vault? chest would be 2-set, but sin stained is also looking kinda good
waxen orbit
Not like it necessarily matters a ton
waxen orbit
can someone help me with vault? chest would be 2-set, but sin stained is also lo...
Chest
Tier >>.
dark lark
Chest tier
sweet summit
tier >> few ilvls on neck
lofty widget
sigh
sweet summit
distant crystal
i slacked and didn't do a warrior key last week, GV was shiny this morning tho with fat 239 tier legs 
ionic fern
So the journey begins.
distant crystal
are you rp walking to the GV right now?
sweet summit
i slacked and didn't do a warrior key last week, GV was shiny this morning tho w...
ez
waxen orbit
ionic fern
are you rp walking to the GV right now?
No, i'm RP walking at work to get coffee.
I did 1 key last week so i have high hopes for my vault.
distant crystal
tier shield inc
ionic fern
Instantly getting full 4p.
blazing condor
Tier wow token
strong forum
Ez clap
humble tendon
Guyz i am confused. What should i take?Neck has socket and leech, gloves are bis for prot (and arms which i play sometimes) and could turn into tier set after week 8 and trinket is not bis for warrior but still 278 but stamina not strenght. Any suggestions?
sweet summit
gonna keep it real with you chief
i'd take neck
mossy peak
take the fat neck imo, thats the sort of baloney you can only rip from your box
mossy peak
it's no speed, but it'll do
sweet summit
you'll get plenty more gloves you can turn into tier later
sweet summit
true 
strong forum
That neck is gonna last until 10.0
mossy peak
and that definitely seems like the tier wing folks will be hitting first, given uh
the
halondrus situation
sweet summit
lmfao
humble tendon
thanks guyz that was helpful
blazing condor
how does it feel to live my dream
limber temple
I am over the moon 😂
jagged pier
🖕
limber temple
I actually cried.
ruby stirrup
@jagged pier ya jakey i always want to see your rio raider profile , what is your name in game
blazing condor
look at this nerd actually completing keys
ruby stirrup
i will see his stats and copy paste
ruby stirrup
ya Jakey how stats doesn't matter when you are running massive haste with 1018 haste at 31%
why you hide the good stuff for you
blazing condor
every guide also says to get haste if you choose within ilvl 
ruby stirrup
i see , thanks for the link 🙂 i will keep checking you from now and then to do my decisions
blazing condor
ionic fern
Absolute chad.
vocal geode
Guyz i am confused. What should i take?Neck has socket and leech, gloves are bis...
trinket is just reactive defense matrix, did around 600k dmg + absorb in a mists 16 on my monk
neck huge though
jagged pier
its not
it depends on how much damage u take
as warrior takes the least damage
it does no damage for us
vocal geode
I mean it's 2k pr. hit right
ah, 10% per incoming damage, max ~2k at 262 ilvl for me
sweet summit
yeah
it's a good defensive trinket from dungeons, sure
but it won't do insane damage u less you "forget" to use shield block 
blazing condor
jagged pier
bring bakc iron madien
deft hinge
look at this nerd actually completing keys
Lol! 😂
sweet summit
real...
ionic fern
so i can just
Just do it regardless.
ionic fern
Stack mastery
sweet summit
miss iron maiden...
ionic fern
And Revenge + RNG block
sweet summit
would've been like 10% by now...
jagged pier
yep
ionic fern
They should allow us to use triple Legendary..
-One actually solid one
-Covenant Specific one
-One utility one that will never be used otherwise
Gimme leaper.
Smh
jagged pier
LEAPER LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
blazing condor
ppHop
blazing condor
🥪
ionic fern
Can't even remember half the Legendaries we have cause we never fucking use them.
sweet summit
2nd charge SW lego
ionic fern
blazing condor
U wish lol
ionic fern
Just use misshapen mirror on all the raid bosses and stop complaining about "HURR DURR MAGIC DAMAGE".
Right?
sweet summit
civic sparrow
I don’t know if I am just an idiot, but is the Devastator talent bugged or something? It’s supposed to have a 25% chance to reset shield slam, but I am now level 21 already and have never had shield slam reset
civic sparrow
that's a later shield slam rank
Makes sense now
sweet summit
until you're level 31 (i think it's 31 you get SS resets)
it's very cringe don't know why it's like that
blazing condor
weird synergy with devastator
blazing condor
sweet summit
crazy
craggy pilot
alrdy have the gauntlet tho
sweet summit
pog
craggy pilot
should i wait until we kill Halondrus, and then take the Legs after?
ionic fern
Don't.
craggy pilot
i was so disappointed when i saw hand tier
as i alrdy have it
but then i saw leg tier as well <3333
or i take leg tier from vault, and then i can trade when we clear Halondrus
potentially
but i guess now i have to kill Anduin + Rygelon/Lords to get 4 piece...
balmy edge
Yo lads, How good is Codex for prot in raid/m+?
sweet summit
"it's a good defensive trinket from dungeons, sure
but it won't do insane damage unless you "forget" to use shield block "
craggy pilot
"it's a good defensive trinket from dungeons, sure
but it won't do insane damage...
wait is that why codex is shit? it doesnt proc when u block?
sweet summit
it does, but the more damage you take the more damage it does up to a cap of x
and with sb up you don't take big hits
craggy pilot
ohh i see
strong forum
It's a great trinket, but it won't be alot of dmg output for us
Compared to say bdk and vdh
Or monk for that matter
west walrus
'Morning all 
sweet summit
basically a more defensive and less offensive matrix
craggy pilot
252 ring + socket vs 265 ring without? 🤔
uncut notch
252 ring + socket vs 265 ring without? 🤔
I'd say ilvl - each point of primary is worth approx 3 secondary points, (I think). The ratio could be wrong but the logic is true
uncut notch
rings dont give primary kekw
So just do the maths - +16 secondary, is that worth more than the gap to the new ring
If the new ring has less than 16 of the secondary you will socket, dont bother
craggy pilot
ill go with the ilvl fuck it
west walrus
Maybe it's time to pick an item from last week vault 🤔
vocal geode
I'd use scale and codex even though codex not that good on prot warrior according to the conversation above
blazing condor
people pushed with aegis + rdm last patch yall think that'll be the same for this patch?
or aegis + codex now
(or something else)
sweet summit
aegis + codex is what i'm planning to run once i eventually loot a codex
jagged pier
i need teir set first
tame jasper
I play aegis + fatescriber for push
jagged pier
blazing condor
at least codex aint locked behind a weekly lockout
tame jasper
I picked it once in a trash vault far before it was changed useful on ptr - lucky me
jagged pier
hc and higher probs
craggy pilot
ok, i only have it Normal 😦
jagged pier
maybe hc aegis will get out scaled by somthing
craggy pilot
so will stick to my Scale
jagged pier
i mean normal aegis is still insane
craggy pilot
ye but so is 252 Scale 🤔
tame jasper
maybe hc aegis will get out scaled by somthing
Was this „out SCALEd“ intended? 🤔
jagged pier
ye but so is 252 Scale 🤔
normal aegis is and has always been better than 252 scale
blazing condor
i still dont know how good phial is now
jagged pier
mwahi hasnt been playing
craggy pilot
😄
jagged pier
till like yesterday
craggy pilot
mwahi playing lost ark or something 🤣
jagged pier
i mean his status is 10.0 waiting room
tame jasper
mwahi hasnt been playing
We only watches players playing 😂
blazing condor
pog
blazing condor
youve cleared higher keys than me at least 🙂
ionic fern
Ya
craggy pilot
mwahi goated
ionic fern
Even had a DK DPS.
blazing condor
hes orange
ionic fern
Was weird.
woven flint
So, i'm wanting to jump back into tanking on my war again. Last time i did was pre emerald nightmare in Legion. Was the best way to farm mythics for the ilvl i needed per raid lead before EN opened. Been mostly pvping as arms, but i want to do myth+ so i can expand my vault option, plus, i generally miss pve
currently 246 ilvl equipped as a vulpera. I don't have a tank leggo yet, but i do have 262 elysian might legs. Whats the highest key any of you experienced prot was think i could do while trying to get back into the groove of tanking?
jagged pier
thats all up to how comfortable u are yourself
jagged pier
with that gear and u being comfortable u could do 15s for sure
craggy pilot
but you will have less SB uptime
woven flint
okay. wasn't sure if i could hit something that high so fast. since its been awhile i just don't wanna go in have a group rage at me because i might mess up, plus, i really don't know the routes for any of the dungeons, i.e. for trash precent and stuff
strong forum
They will rage for sure
woven flint
i know the mechanics fairly well
craggy pilot
Charge in, 2 stacks of shield block, spam some revenge+shield slam
jagged pier
oh groups rage at the tank if anything goes wrong even if its not your fault
craggy pilot
when SB runs out, you spear and run away
jagged pier
craggy pilot
oh groups rage at the tank if anything goes wrong even if its not your fault
i had people saying "oh nice tanking mr warr" yesterday
felt good
they said "havent seen a warr tank in a long time" at the start 🤣
jagged pier
okay. wasn't sure if i could hit something that high so fast. since its been awh...
if u want more defence when playing with EM just run bolster talent it basically does reprisals job
but upper reaches is up this week i believe
woven flint
k, well seems you guys say just wing if im good, so i'll try it
craggy pilot
if u want more defence when playing with EM just run bolster talent it basically...
bolster 🤮
jagged pier
i mean its what u play if u dont have reprisal and more to be more defensive
craggy pilot
k, well seems you guys say just wing if im good, so i'll try it
if you have correct talents, and know your class, lego will not bring you down basically
jagged pier
its what we did in season 1
craggy pilot
people played Seismic Reverb last season, and did fine in +20
craggy pilot
its what we did in season 1
but AM is just so nutty
woven flint
and here i was actually cocerned about doing a +5, but guess i was just downplaying myself
craggy pilot
tbh i would maybe try do a guild grp first
and let them know youre getting back into tanking
strong forum
There's a difference between skilled people with max gear running +20 with seismic
And a guy who hasn't played tank in 6 years going in with a dps leggo and 20ilvl below what a +15 drops
woven flint
find one thats like in discord and such?
craggy pilot
jagged pier
yes nielsen theres a difference
between slash and nome
a big big difference
he hasnt tanked in 6 years
craggy pilot
but he can check 😄
jagged pier
he has gotten a defensive leggo
craggy pilot
for the flow of tank
jagged pier
he should play bloster
well not really nome did have aggro in that key
or any of those keys
just me and erga
woven flint
so glad i joined this. its nice to have ppl to talk to and bounce ideas/ ask for advice
jagged pier
oh thats not our 5 prot key
woven flint
no, been late to the game
craggy pilot
ah ok
woven flint
was in the hospital after week 1 with cellulitis
craggy pilot
you can also bounce talents and shit if you need
sweet summit
idk what that is but sorry to hear that
craggy pilot
TC build is maybe ok without Reprisal? @jagged pier
sweet summit
glad you're okay now(?)
woven flint
skin infection
jagged pier
TC build is maybe ok without Reprisal? <@!179993058186625025>
no
woven flint
was a flare up, i got mrsa back in 2019
sweet summit
TC build is maybe ok without Reprisal? <@!179993058186625025>
i did try it
craggy pilot
:revenge:
craggy pilot
even with Tier set?
sweet summit
qtf is that
woven flint
now im on a 6 week 24 hour vanco PICC line
craggy pilot
qtf is that
Punish BV Heavy Repercussions 😄
woven flint
24/7*
jagged pier
nie please stop with this stupid fucking suggestions
sweet summit
losing devastator :notlike:
craggy pilot
haha
jagged pier
they arent helping anyone
woven flint
well, i checked icy veins for talents and stuff before coming here
craggy pilot
Jakey getting annoyed at me 😭
woven flint
so, stats wise im currently at 13.5% crit, 28.7% haste, 19.4% mastery, and 27.08% vers
craggy pilot
well, i checked icy veins for talents and stuff before coming here
just remember that stuff is 90% based off having Reprisal alrdy
jagged pier
it doesnt matter that your memeing or not there is a new guy in here and he could read what your saying as legit things to consider @craggy pilot
woven flint
well, basically i did that, and its all my pvp gear from last season lol
west walrus
Gloves in my vault... the only loot I got last week from the raid :/
craggy pilot
disclaimer: TC and SS build is shit, but it should rly be a thing (hint blizz employees in this discord if any)
woven flint
hit duelist for the first time ever on 2 seperate wars
hence why i have EM legs and im 246 ilvl, i think im wearing 1 ring thats from ZM, its a 242,
wait, i take that back, i have the helm too that lets me socket crystalizzed spheroids. and in that i have 5% haste buff
here's my wow page character if anyone wants to look it over and give any thoughts
broken mulch
How good is leech for prot wars? Do I ever drop ilvl for it?
sweet summit
it's cool
no
strong forum
No you don't drop ilvl for leech
That is a dead meme from bfa s2 and bfa s4
And in bfa s4 you could only get away with it cuz you had 5pt7404it050% vers
jagged pier
mwahis s4 leech build 🙏
broken mulch
Ahhh cool cool yea it's been years since I tanked xD
sweet summit
you can fuck around with it
but realistically it's not better
lavish thunder
strong forum
Helm
Rygelon drops chest
Which is higher ilvl
That's why you craft on Helm
That way you get max stat budget
quick elk
this maybe a silly question, but 2 pieces tier would trump 20 ilevels on a shield ?
craggy pilot
yes
quick elk
thanks!
craggy pilot
kinda depends what tier piece as well
if it is legs/hands, you could kill the bosses before checking (depending how far your guild is)
pallid musk
Was busy with raiding when my topic went on fire here about protection since I have struggle to manage good self heal in tyrannical week
Using 252 phial, 236 scale and 20k health pot
jagged pier
what no its not
a shield drops from first 2 bosses in the raid
i have a shield
and no tier set
wintry nymph
mmh ok
ill delete then
:)
Wouldn't it be better to take shield tho? Because in a couple of weeks you can get the tiersets guaranteed by crafting them from other pieces
wintry nymph
Okay
hardy ridge
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/bleeding-hollow/shpack don't mind the scuffed xmog, forgot to redo it after getting 2 tier pieces ;^)
mortal whale
Well if you dont mythic raid a max ilvl shield surely is better than tier as its your only source of a high ilvl shield and you'll be able to craft tier pieces later?
pallid musk
Got 2 tier and using it. Mythic GV 278 been rings / cloak and trinket which I don’t need. Hope next reset will be better
Just thanks to 2pc free ignore pain
strong forum
There's always next week! Smile
pallid musk
Ya, and a gif went in when I was abot type ..
mellow bridge
you can take the tokens now if all items are shit
and get free sockets later
it's at least something
pallid musk
Hehe going get something 278 for C A week 8
One of my guildmate got 2pc mythic 278 in 2 week
strong forum
Matta got 4p
strong forum
But shit ain't gonna matter in 4 weeks
At that point everybody will have full tier
Well except me
blazing condor
Same
deft hinge
im getting Tourette syndrome from this socalled "Great Vault" shit, fuck, hell
robust rover
Can you craft the legs into 278 tier in a few weeks?
pallid musk
You can turn to Creation C in week 8 to a tier so we’ll it’s worth have some
Yes 3 more week
robust rover
Right. Thanks.
deft hinge
werent we supposed to get tokens with loot from great vault this week? to get tier set those who get Tourettes from crap loot?
timber jasper
i'm very sorry for you 😄
chrome falcon
pocket protoforge is bad right
strong forum
Yeah
timber jasper
yes
for memes
radiant magnet
take the tokens, at least you get gem slots
strong forum
That neck is decent for parsing
chrome falcon
PARSING YOU SAY?
strong forum
Unless you have a 252+ big dick haste neck with socket
chrome falcon
259 kt neck
chrome falcon
i guess it's the 3 ilvl upgrade weapon
chrome falcon
could take the helmet as an investment for 5 weeks from now
strong forum
Does it have haste?
chrome falcon
no but it doesn't matter
strong forum
Also
chrome falcon
creation catalyst turns it into the exact tier piece with same stats
strong forum
You gonna run unity helmet anyway
chrome falcon
at least that's what i heard
strong forum
Unity helmet :siren:
chrome falcon
unity on HELMET?
strong forum
Yes
chrome falcon
funky
vocal geode
werent we supposed to get tokens with loot from great vault this week? to get ti...
yes if you pick the tokens
you pick item or tokens like before
dark lark
Sounds like he was just unlucky and didn't get any
craggy pilot
which upgrade unlocks 1 extra WQ?
ocean reef
which upgrade unlocks 1 extra WQ?
The top research in the left most column, that looks like a yellow rune
It takes an hour
craggy pilot
ty
mellow bridge
werent we supposed to get tokens with loot from great vault this week? to get ti...
no?
there is no such thing
You can upgrade your items into tier slot items later on but that isnt live yet and has nothing to do with tokens
mighty cairn
the tokens can let you add sockets to existing items
a different system than the tier set creation system
humble tendon
i vote the sinsmasher
jagged pier
tokens
radiant magnet
nm, orange isnt a bear in here. sorry, slightly drugged up
strong forum
I'd skip tbh
chrome falcon
Anyone know which one of these 20 Hylbrande Console weakauras is the best one?
ionic fern
I'd skip tbh
Yep, i just logged off..i'll sleep on it.
strong forum
Good choice
jagged pier
Yep, i just logged off..i'll sleep on it.
vernal vale
So considering rhy drops gloves with haste verse at a higher ilvl why are we looking at helm for unity. I would have thought rhy gloves and use tier in the other slots.
jagged pier
max stat weights
strong forum
More stats > better stats
jagged pier
☝️
blazing condor
leech > more stats > better stats
distant crystal
leech > more stats > better stats
deft hinge
15% haste = acceptable as long as moar stats is the answer we get
strong forum
You can get close to 20% haste with neck and rings exclusively
blazing condor
100% crit block = 50% less uptime needed on sb = more revenj
strong forum
So if you're at 15% haste, you're using trash jewelery
blazing condor
Its simply math
jagged pier
by more stats we mean more strength
but then again about 20 ilvls on a ring is an upgrade
regardless of stats anyways
strong forum
Which still leaves open 10 other slots of gear which can have haste on em even by accident
mental scarab
100% crit block = 50% less uptime needed on sb = more revenj
Jepp
jagged pier
blazing condor
Why minmax when you can minmin
north dome
Is Codex of the First Technique any good for tanks?
north dome
sadge 😦 alrighty, thanks
lofty widget
it's really good defensively
blazing condor
Just not as good as it couldve been
primal cape
tried 275 codex on some 15ish this afternoon, does around 300k~
lofty widget
but hardly does anything offensively
primal cape
17 hoa : 295k
jagged pier
doesnt do much for prot warrior i think
its great defensivly its a better RDM it just does nothing offensivly
steel mist
guys need your advise for the vault
vers mastery belt vs crit haste neck with socket
deft hinge
what belt u using? compare picture
chrome falcon
if your current neck is crit vers you should probably take the neck
oh but it's not 278
hm
probably the belt then
unless you have legendary plans for that slot
waxen orbit
(You should) ^
primal cape
i like playing with AFE 275 atm, procs a lot
waxen orbit
Either take tokens or that neck
gray iris
hey guys, is 68% damage mitigation good with am?
waxen orbit
Belt is useless with Unity
safe thistle
you can always craft unity elsewhere where you got low ilvl and poor stats. revered is fairly easy to get
if i get a 278 belt ill craft it somewhere else
strong forum
hey guys, is 68% damage mitigation good with am?
define damage mitigation
blocked hits? no thats very bad
gray iris
yeah blocked hits.. i did 8+ nw and have 239ilvl shield...
strong forum
well shield ilvl doesnt affect how many hits you block
you got a log to shoot me i could check?
maybe i can point out a thing or 2
gray iris
strong forum
woah okay
youre missing ALOT of SS and TC casts
like boatloads
way below the norm
SS should be around 12cpm, TC around 8-10cpm
gray iris
oh okay... yeah i got back to gaming after a while...will try to improve
I usually avoid TC because of low damage
strong forum
you only casted 18 spears in a 25min dungeon, when the CD is only 1min(down to 40sec)
you only casted 19 ravagers in a 25min dungeon, when the CD is only 45sec
strong forum
I usually avoid TC because of low damage
it generates rage
and resets SS
which is more rage
which is more CDR through AM, and also more rage for revenge
gray iris
ah okay
strong forum
more revenge means more SS resets, which means more rage
you see where im getting at?
use rage to generate rage
gray iris
yeah i should definitely focus on ss and tc
strong forum
you only used 1 shieldwall, you never used last stand
you can and should use them ALOT more often
gray iris
i only use them when im in danger of dying
strong forum
CDs are there to be used, not to be held for "oh shit" moments
why save them
no point
gray iris
my thinking is that it might save my ass if i fuck up lol
gray iris
so i should be using them whenever possible?
strong forum
not whenever possible, but go about it like this
"will i need this in the next few minutes or not?"
gray iris
oh okay that makes sense
strong forum
if you wont need to use it soon, why not just use it now on the upcoming potentially dangerous pull ( obv not on easy pulls )
gray iris
aah i get your point... I use them only in emergency lol
strong forum
ima try to look for a comparable log from me so you can compare it a bit
radiant magnet
if you know an upcoming pull will be bad, saving it is ok
but if you expect next 10 pulls to be normal, use it frequently
strong forum
mh only have 1 NW log, but thats a meme run
gray iris
haha okay thanks bro
strong forum
this is mists
from 8 7 months ago
should somewhat look like this
fuck i used elysian might
maaaan
bro i only have meme logs from last season
gray iris
damn 13.5 ss cpm.... xd
gray iris
how do i stop that?
gray iris
i open with ravager - sob- avatar- ds and revenge casts
strong forum
you wasted over 15% of all your rage
just use more IP to prevent overcapping
thats its main use
strong forum
well you can see your rage bar
just dont empty your rage bar 2seconds before SB CD comes back up
and keep in mind youre playing reprisal
that is ALOT of on demand rage
with intervene alone
gray iris
alright man...will keep these things in mind
urban portal
@gray iris
for reference
this is a top prot warrior log
they waste the same amount of rage but has double the generation
jagged pier
i mean thats still aweful
lofty widget
should waste like, sub 50 over a run
mighty valley
you start to get a feel for the phases when you have big rage income and can IP a lot, and the times when it's coming in slowly and you should be conservative
mighty valley
wow just calling out jakey right when he's right here
strong forum
arms
mighty valley
Is it... normal for fury to bleed that much rage
strong forum
was his first run as fury
mighty valley
fair
strong forum
thats an 8month old log 😄
mighty valley
i've never logged my offspec fury runs but i don't feel like i end up capping that much
strong forum
but i imagine wasting rage as fury is really easy
cuz you can only dump rage when youre capped or close to
jagged pier
^
sweet summit
that's why u play gnome for 5% extra max rage 😎
quick coyote
Daft Q where in logs does it show rage generation and wastage?
lofty widget
resources, then change from hit points to rage
quick coyote
Cheers. Hmm looks like I got some work tae be doing
Last raid pull we done tuesday. Lot oh wastage.
craggy pilot
anyone know the WA for boss energy Liquid are using?
blazing condor
nop
dawn canyon
craggy pilot
dam
mighty valley
we're gonna see wasted rage skyrocket as people get set bonuses
grizzled lotus
We should get pretty TUFF with the free IPs from the proc + the bonus Rage giving us even more
mighty valley
it's critical to not waste all this free rage
it's gonna be a good loop to have avatar all the god damn time
jagged pier
we're gonna see wasted rage skyrocket as people get set bonuses
yes u will see a huge gap between good and bad players
cold zealot
Do i replace one of my haste rings with the 265, im sitting at 26% with the new ring or 32% with my current setuo
mighty valley
idk I'd probably just sim this
feel pretty good at above 30% haste but it's all feelycraft
cold zealot
same im hestitant bc of that
mighty valley
13 ilvls is a pretty big jump and you can regem and reenchant for haste
i'm more interested in crit now just to see those big shield slam numbers from tier more often
but that's not real advice
agile pumice
All in on vers/mast to get the biggest shield slam numbers possible
cold zealot
yeah. got my 2 set and went to guradian hc, was really irritated from the 25k ss crits
jagged pier
sockets are worth like 15 ilvls tho
chrome falcon
jesus fucking christ
i did 5.2k dps on our dausegne kill last week without tier
tonight i did 9.5
jagged pier
to this degree? nah
yes
strong forum
thats literally how it works
jagged pier
to that degree
jagged pier
^
chrome falcon
it really isn't
strong forum
its not a normal tier
chrome falcon
no tier set has ever double a tank's dps
chrome falcon
forgive me for making a point that your extremely girthy yellow brain figured out before me
strong forum
we've literally been saying for months that your rage gen will increase by 100-150% 😦
i guess it just didnt really click until you saw the actual number yourself
ive not been memeing when i said youll do 30k execute dps with max gear
deft hinge
i wont be saving avatar for execute
strong forum
?
deft hinge
i have about 45 ish now
strong forum
yes but you dont have tier or glory
both which absolutely explode your rage gen mahogni
jagged pier
only going necro next week
plush tendon
wow, so much power
chrome falcon
i think necro is good as soon as you get 4pc but it doesn't matter either way
plush tendon
I was hyped for Necro since I swapped to dps for raid
but if Necro Prot is a thing.... guess Ill tank a few dungeons 😛
strong forum
the benefit of necro is the huge rage influx from the massive banner uptime in raid
in m+ you cant generate that kind of uptime
so kyrian and NF shoot ahead
chrome falcon
you can get pretty solid banner uptime in m+ too depending on the dungeon
but the others are definitely better
mighty valley
i'm on 2p kyrian and already feel like i'm mashing IP constantly
chrome falcon
yup
mighty valley
4p necro is gonna destroy my pinky finger
chrome falcon
have fun when avatar starts to legit cap your bar
waxen orbit
Currently designing a WA that triggers a custom sound when I have Avatar active and it’s just gonna be the DOOM: Eternal OST
mighty valley
whenever I get power infusion GAS GAS GAS plays
chrome falcon
in raids priests should genuinely be PIing us during execute
sweet summit
that's a cope but yeah sure
mighty valley
in heroic one of my priest buds would just be like "roll for PI" and sometimes I'd win
and then one of my wife's alts is a priest, so that one's easy
craggy pilot
is the Earthbreakers Impact any good for Prot?
waxen orbit
Dookie
sweet summit
it's uhh
alright
but like
split+increased damage in aoe trinkets are usually quite fucking shit + you're forced to move for max value which can be cringe
waxen orbit
split+increased damage in aoe trinkets are usually quite fucking shit + you're f...
Okay but Whetstone do be goated with the sauce
sweet summit
nope
humble tendon
the 265 free cov belt we get is it upgradable to 291 i suppose?
waxen orbit
You have to recraft it
cinder nova
Do we know when the WF sheet is gonna get updated with 2p/4p
mighty valley
Confused because the numbers update for prot warrior 4pc but the info on the right says it's not implemented yet
safe thistle
jujst for prot war but as you can see without it were already right behind arms
i think it will just make it even more relevent
cinder nova
It's probably updated for 2L but not 4p
I'm asking about the roadmap of implementing it. Have they said anything about it of late?
chrome falcon
got a 252 sigil for padding wooha 
safe thistle
i would say not a lot got 4 piece yet to help with it 😛 so we will see better data/result with some more weeks going on.
safe thistle
ohhh even more recent one É
safe thistle
haha im scared to click
chrome falcon
my one chance to clean sweep parses and my raid trolls me on lihuvim
mighty valley
These are the same numbers but ordered it looks like
waxen orbit
Naw look at right side
mighty valley
Prot is 410 on both
waxen orbit
my one chance to clean sweep parses and my raid trolls me on lihuvim
I snatched your Desausage, Arti, and Proto parse :>
But good shit homie
Guild trolled me on Lihuvim too 😦
chrome falcon
yeah my sausage could have been better
most of the execute phase was killed by her shield
and i think i need to be kyrian for prototype
waxen orbit
Oh for sure
Oh shit wait it says my parse on some of those is ranked higher on my page but you have higher damage? Is mine not updated yet?
chrome falcon
yeah won't be locked in until the end of the day i think
chrome falcon
i forget exactly how it works
waxen orbit
Well done g
waxen orbit
Once I get tier I'll catch up 😢
chrome falcon
Oh yeah that's why I said this was my only chance because I'm not beating people when they have the same as me and are actually playing the damage covenant
cinder nova
Playing Necro?
cerulean wyvern
sweet summit
ya it owns
cinder nova
having to turn my brain on for using rep always tilts me though
I'm thinking of making auras that ping noise when Intervene and Charge come off CD
So I can just avoid having to ever look at my bars
safe thistle
Twitter
craggy pilot
anyone have a good WA for Seeing Red?
cinder nova
I modified the one that's pinned to make a sound when you're at 7 stacks so you know when you should be taking your finger off TC to SS those sweaty 35K crits
And it also shouts "Empowered" when you get Outburst.
craggy pilot
send it ❤️
oblique garnet
ya it owns
4p check
oblique garnet
I'm thinking of making auras that ping noise when Intervene and Charge come off ...
Why not just have weakauras track that
oblique garnet
think its included in every warrior pack
oblique garnet
5p <:seramore:917663298869145640>
That is epic are you feeling the carpal tunnel fury yet?
oblique garnet
Bro i played it on 2 bosses and my left hand is already dead
sweet summit
yeah binds are a huge factor
oblique garnet
idk its on 1
sweet summit
i'm super comfortable with what i have
oblique garnet
Yeah same
oblique garnet
🤔 maybe mousewheel for rb
sweet summit
g is zerk rage lol
sick sentinel
everybody calls me a retard
sweet summit
sick sentinel
cause my spear
sweet summit
same man
sick sentinel
is on shift U
sweet summit
ya ok i agree with them sorry
sick sentinel
i just got big hands man
sweet summit
no offense
chrome falcon
excuse me
ocean reef
I got long fingers
But I'm not gonna press Shift+U for an actual bind I use somewhat often
Especially not your covenant ability
sweet summit
shift u is way too far away
cinder nova
send it ❤️
sweet summit
to be used in combat
chrome falcon
i just click my pot
sick sentinel
i just click my pot
waxen orbit
ocean reef
sick sentinel
then he calls me retarded
ocean reef
Doomed..
sick sentinel
cinder nova
Why not just have weakauras track that
I do, I just hate having to look around. I focus a lot on just rotational bullshit because I'm a smoothbrain. I'm going to mod my existing auras to ping.
chrome falcon
i didn't call you retarded!
sick sentinel
it was a joke mate
cinder nova
Human brain processes sounds faster than sight so having distinct sounds for intervene, charge (1 charge), and charge (2 charges) can help me track it with my eyes literally closed.
oblique garnet
shift u is way too far away
👀 maybe its better if i dont show my binds
lime urchin
my brain doesnt process anything 
sweet summit
oh no...
craggy pilot
SS giving 50 rage damn son 😄
sweet summit
now you have to show lol
craggy pilot
https://wago.io/qchqJD6QA
ty ❤️
chrome falcon
what do you guys have your devastator icon bound to
waxen orbit
I don't have it on my bars anymore
waxen orbit
I fully tore that shit off
chrome falcon
i used to have deva on 4 that's a good one
sweet summit
haven't changed it since bfa
chrome falcon
but 1 gang
cinder nova
I have kept it there for a while, but leave it on in the rare case they ever completely hamstring Devestator.
chrome falcon
if deva ever stops being meta no-one will play this class
cinder nova
Or I'm doing Prot PVP
waxen orbit
Wait actually I can't remember where I put devastator on
It's been so long
I think
It may have been 9
oblique garnet
now you have to show lol
cinder nova
What the fuck is that
oblique garnet
For mount yes