Can i mute this fury hater.
#protection
ionic fern
sweet summit
fury owns
light halo
Well thanks for the info. Makes me feel better about trying to gear
ionic fern
strong forum
Can i mute this fury hater.
Not a legitimate enough reason
I'll go cry to mommy if you do
arctic bone
if you play DPS you feel like this
ionic fern
The moment you agreed to be a SF you agreed to be abusable by the mods.
It was in the contract.
arctic bone
ionic fern
🤷
strong forum
Contract means payment
jagged pier
the only piece u tend to drop ilvl on for are tierset and neck and rings where u want more haste
lime urchin
no it does not
strong forum
no it does not
Shh
arctic bone
xD
ionic fern
Contract means payment
You are getting paid by the "Thanks" and satisfaction you receive by helping new protection warriors avoid traps like "IP OVERCAP" and "UF PLZ YES?" and "VERS GUUD??"
arctic bone
owns and fun to pay to play is different feelings 😛 bt yes fury is smacking like a train atm
ionic fern
arctic bone
just not my cup of tea, arms feels more intriguing as a dps all because of tactician procs, flavours it up a bit from going 1.2.3.4. 1.2.3.4
ionic fern
im in spain without the S
Have you tried Ignore Pain'ing it?
arctic bone
Have you tried Ignore Pain'ing it?
too much rage 😛
ionic fern
arctic bone
cant inflict enough revenge on the people if you ignoring that pain 🙂
jagged pier
i mean u can
because it allowed u not to overcap and get more SS's
which is more rage
which is more revenges
which is more SS procs
and the circle continues
arctic bone
the problem is over rage spending on revenges then I get into a oh shit moment to have SB up 😛
they say need to have 90% uptime on SB is that possible 😮
for entire run overall
ionic fern
Yes, it's possible.
Then again i'm just actively refusing to use SB at times cause the damage intake is small enough that i couldn't care less.
arctic bone
damn, best i got is about 80% and that was concentrating on fully keeping SB up as much as I can and using way less revenge
so I gotta up that number
ionic fern
I mean..do you?
Are you dying?
arctic bone
nope not dying bt feeling like im taking chunky damage at times for healer
did a 13 hoa now, was needing to perma leap away and just chill throwing axes
ionic fern
Don't worry about healers.
99% of them don't do anything productive with their time anyways when you're playing super defensive.
arctic bone
haha
ionic fern
You'd thyink that "Oh, i got CD's, i will spam IP and i got SB so the healer can DPS while i chill at 100% HP".
And then you see the healer sitting there spamming your health bar which is already not moving.
🤷
light halo
arctic bone
hehe true 😛
ionic fern
When ever you go into a key just remember:
-Non of the DPS'ers has interrupts on their bar
-The DPS'ers WILL stand infront of the enemies, especially if they have frontals
-The healer does not know that he can DPS
-Someone WILL fail the invis skip
Will make the run a lot smoother.
Oh, and the lowest DPS player at the end of the run will blame you for being a bad tank.
jagged pier
actually ive had warlocks this week say there bad
when they were below me on damage
2 difference warlocks in 2 difference keys
indigo bramble
I know you can Deflect Riftmaw on Skolex NM (as in it'll damage the boss) but on HM can you at least block it (but not damage the boss back)?
lilac bloom
i'm getting smashes with soul reaper from anduin.. they say to use shield block every time.. but seems like it over hits that mark
if big adds dont die.. then they do hit hard right?
sweet summit
do you have full damage reduction
ionic fern
SB mitigates the physical part of it.
sweet summit
from kingsmourne phases
ionic fern
😦
jagged pier
well its magical as well
ionic fern
Yes, that was my point.
pallid isle
Ya, if you don't get the full 100 willpower it chunks
sweet summit
ya
jagged pier
well u should be going into that phase with 100
pallid isle
even at 80 it hit me for ~80k w/ SB
jagged pier
or u might as well wipe
pallid isle
total p+m
pallid isle
100 wp = 90% DR
I was panicing like how tf am I supposed to survive that, then saw the DR thing
lilac bloom
then i better make sure.. cos it hits me hard when i taunt swap
like one shot
even when i had my sb up.. or using my bloodscalp trink i cooudn't survive that hit
plush moat
so when does this open on bloodmallet ??
tropic linden
yeah, u don't have 100willpower
strong forum
This opens once the simc profile is finished and published
tropic linden
was with 60 willpower and the adds just one shot me
strong forum
If you'd like to help mwahi out he'd greatly appreciate it
tropic linden
How can i help @ionic fern ?
ionic fern
It should already be done.
strong forum
Fine tuning is never done 
ionic fern
I'll check with the Bloodmallet person.
plush moat
so how can we help? 🤔
jagged pier
its open source 👍
strong forum
As I said, fine tuning on the apl. And if you're more well versed can try to help to properly implement the set bonus interactions
It's all open source, anybody can pitch in
craggy pilot
anyone know how i get fastest Soul Cinders?
Jailer Gauntlet faster than normal torghast?
jagged pier
any
tropic linden
isn't dps spec better?
jagged pier
ye
craggy pilot
i have no mount tho 😦
tropic linden
nono, do thorg, not TC
craggy pilot
ye i mean if you completed Twisted Corridors, you can mount in Torghast
shell shale
Yeah I wouldn't recommend skipping mobs in twisting
silk finch
The complete run is closer to 6 minutes regardless if you do it as fury or protection. If you have engineering, pop@your cloak and run to the end. Kill boss. Should be able to reuse it on floor 4.
craggy pilot
this week also kinda sucks
mortregar + soulforges 😦
i should maybe go NF
i cant run past anything
these fire guys melt me
craggy pilot
wtf in soulforges i cant even dmg the floor boss 😄
fucking torghast man
ill try NF prot
i was Kyrian Arms just now and got rekt
silk finch
You picked a bad week to speed grind. And SF is not the one to grind.
craggy pilot
had 1650 soul cinders rdy
just made Reprisal 290 yesterday
but realized i also need 290 Painbringer for Arms 🤦
silk finch
That’s why you play fury, signet and done 😊
craggy pilot
how so?
strong forum
Low target count
And with 100% parry uptime it's just a breeze
My best flawless runs I always had in mortregar
I peaked at like 308 points
craggy pilot
oh thought i want speed, not points 😄
"enemies affected by shouts" does that count for Piercing Howl?
strong forum
Ye
strong forum
oh thought i want speed, not points 😄
Mortregar can be ultra fast
If you rng well
My fastest run was like 8min, and going flawless. Layer 12 ofc
craggy pilot
do i need layer 12 now?
took me 14 minutes for 230 soul cinders...
gonna take me 2hrs for a full lego then rip
indigo bramble
I added the first few bosses of SOFO (up to Pantheon) to the Spell Reflection Tracker. Also added a condition where it won't trigger if Spell Reflection is on cooldown. Also added a flashing text (the bar doesn't show for me even though I have name plates)
If anybody wants to give it a try: https://wago.io/-w_IWkPpg
urban portal
God send
strong forum
do i need layer 12 now?
No layer 9 is enough for it to be fast
waxen orbit
All this time spent on Halondrus is making me wonder if we'll see a RWF as gloriously long as the HFC one
Yall remember that shit?
472 tries
strong forum
Well uunat was 746ish
Over an entire week on 1 boss
This current tier may very well go until people unlock double legendaries
Anduin isn't dying this week
west walrus
Imagine, being picked as prot warr, because of the nickname AND being a female tauren 👀
strong forum
Some people are just cool
west walrus
yeah :D
sturdy sable
Yeah i imagine everything will fall over with double leggos
strong forum
Halondrus wont
It only makes it easier to survive in p3 and end the fight quicker but it's still gonna be a bitch
little marsh
is prot warr weak right now? other classes tier feel super strong and ours is a bit dissapointing isnt it?
I want to try to tank in m+ this season but idk, feels like we are the worst tank
mighty valley
Ours is fun and strong, some others tanks' are just bananas
strong forum
It's the weakest tierset defensively yes
No doubt about it
Design wise it's 2nd to bdk
But other classes tier numbers are just stupid
uncut notch
Ours is fun and strong, some others tanks' are just bananas
Paladin tierbonus have trash pulls punching themselves to death
strong forum
Bear tier is insanely overtuned
Monk tier is overtuned
Paladin is aight imo but it just allows them to do crazy things with their holy power
urban portal
Monk tier has too much synergy with their leggo
mighty valley
If your goal is to get accepted to a lot of m+ pugs, warrior is the worst choice for sure in current state
little marsh
prot bonus needs that the buffed attack heals/shields % of dmg done or whatever
strong forum
Pwar is factually the worst m+ tank
But still plenty strong to do upwards of +25 keys
We've not gotten weaker
We've gotten stronger, but the other tanks just got a bit more stronger tiers
little marsh
and dmg at least? do we pump compared to other tanks? 😄
strong forum
Hard to tell
My initial thoughts are that every tank will on average pull 13k dps in high keys
With the exception of bear doing 17 to 20k
And in mdi style of playing for max dmg, every tank will reach 20k dps, and bear 25-30k
mighty valley
This is my class though, in sickness and in health
little marsh
and ST dmg? jesus its getting more depressing now
mighty valley
no balance issue can make me get a wow divorce
strong forum
I'm just being real here
St dmg bear and pally will be Kings
Pwar will absolutely destroy execute dmg tho
Literal execute dps King
M+ meta will likely be the same as last patch
Except swap WW with fury and mage with hunter
So:
Pally/bear
Rogue
Fury
Hunter
Rsham/pally
strong forum
Their bis leggo is basically tailored for the tier set
I really don't understand how "kegsmash does big heal + big health increase" synergise with anything
Tbf I don't know anything about monk legendaries, I just know none of them increase dmg
urban portal
Their best leggo gives them 1 more keg smash and makes it do more damage
So yeah
Literally tailor made
tropic linden
Prot War is fun for me, that's all that matter
urban portal
Yep it's super boring
tropic linden
And i'm only doing +10 ATM
urban portal
It's got like 1.5 lines of text
jagged pier
50%
mighty valley
jagged pier
yer but tier set is 50%
mighty valley
they were talking about the talent
apparently their flaming feet leggo is the biggest ST dmg one anyway?
jagged pier
not annymore
mighty valley
icy veins writer lazy
gaunt dawn
icy veins writer lazy
i've let him know the feedback 👍
before 4p, charred passion is better for damage
after 4p then keg all the way
mighty valley
tell him i will fight him in the streets over this thing that doesn't even affect me
sweet summit
k🥚
blazing condor
Keck
gaunt dawn
if you notice any other weird stuff on guides, feel free to DM
🤝
According to sims
Charred Passions is still slightly better
so the info is technically correct
strong forum
Warri discord right if I write it
sturdy sable
I think fire feet is a minor dps up
Your right and it requires better play
dawn canyon
🦀 💀
urban portal
damn
radiant magnet
now to one-shot anduin
blazing condor
#thanks
distant crystal
gonna be hilarious if they full clear today
urban portal
This boss has very few dps and hps checks, which most of the top guilds already match easily.
What wipes them are individual and personal mistakes. Something that shouldnt happen on that level of play.
I dont know if its simply impossible to juggle bombs perfectly or not, but Ive seen a lot of wipes to people just NOT looking at the bomb timer or NOT looking at motes.
Im personally incredibly disappointed by that. I thought RWF would be better than this.As an example, look at how many guilds are on Halondrus? 6?7? That means that Echo and Liquid keep wiping to the SAME individual responsibility mechanics as the next 5 guilds.
Especially on the Eu side (i havent paid too much attention to NA) Lorgok keeps being in for pulls, even tho he doesnt have 4p and dies every single pull. It's incredible. I would've thought RWF guilds would bench failers.
I might sound doomer or toxic, but Im not. I'm just really surprised by the level of play displayed and also the level of mistake tolerance. If it was my guild and I was dying as much as Lorgok I wouldve been benched.
I find them wiping on personal responsibility mechanics incredibly weird, also them not benching repeated failers incredibly weird. I dont wanna be toxic, Im just disappointed. Please explain why this is happening.
Edit: For everyone thinking Im wrong (mildly said), here is a prediction for you, that will prove Im right:
The next nerf on Halondrus will reduce PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, aka reduced number of bombs, bombs not wiping the raid if they explode, shorter/reduced damage bomb debuff on re-pick so you can pick them up faster, etc. Basically the next nerf will make INDIVIDUAL MISTAKES less punishing. Mark my words. And if that happens before someone kills it, please dont be scared to come back here and admit I was right.
mighty valley
who wrote this
brittle owl
some reddit anon
mighty valley
oh ok, no one that matters
imagine if they benched people for mistakes on this boss
more bench than guild
urban portal
anvil gaming moment
strong forum
This copy pasta is all over wow rn
And it's not even meant ironically
That's the sad part
mighty valley
gamers gonna gamer
radiant magnet
Someone who wasnt there said a thing. Can we talk about how my brother would coach the Super Bowl next?
mighty valley
honestly i know how to coach football
- if they drop a pass, why aren't they playing the running game
- if running isn't getting anywhere, don't they know the NFL is a passing league these days
mighty valley
so is the vigilant shield any good
prob good defensively in m+ but not worth any ilvl drop
distant crystal
I'll turn you around and check behind u
strong forum
Thanks for having my back
mighty valley
You turn your camera around
related, saw people on reddit asking "how does firedup turn his camera without turning his character???"
epic rwf tech
mighty valley
mac players from the 90s with only one mouse button
strong forum
Real gamers play on laptop mousepad
dawn canyon
Touchpadwarrior is glad in pvp on touchpad
radiant magnet
good toon name "Touchpadwarrior"
radiant magnet
only if it comes from reddit
waxen orbit
This boss has very few dps and hps checks, which most of the top guilds already match easily.
What wipes them are individual and personal mistakes. Something that shouldnt happen on that level of play.
I dont know if its simply impossible to juggle bombs perfectly or not, but Ive seen a lot of wipes to people just NOT looking at the bomb timer or NOT looking at motes.
Im personally incredibly disappointed by that. I thought RWF would be better than this.
As an example, look at how many guilds are on Halondrus? 6?7? That means that Echo and Liquid keep wiping to the SAME individual responsibility mechanics as the next 5 guilds.
Especially on the Eu side (i havent paid too much attention to NA) Lorgok keeps being in for pulls, even tho he doesnt have 4p and dies every single pull. It's incredible. I would've thought RWF guilds would bench failers.
I might sound doomer or toxic, but Im not. I'm just really surprised by the level of play displayed and also the level of mistake tolerance. If it was my guild and I was dying as much as Lorgok I wouldve been benched.
I find them wiping on personal responsibility mechanics incredibly weird, also them not benching repeated failers incredibly weird. I dont wanna be toxic, Im just disappointed. Please explain why this is happening.
distant crystal
It was actually THD on his burner acct
shut summit
mighty valley
this makes the copypasta worth it
lemme copy
before delet
there
it's in my cringe compilation
latent pier
What are you guys doing for tazavesh street routes? I feel like I just can't do it 15+ no matter how much we blast that key.
somber dune
I deleted it~~
latent pier
I've been running for a ticking sack but yeeeeesh
tawny maple
Just have good DPS and it's ez
mighty valley
tazavesh still just overtuned compared to similar key levels
latent pier
I need a route! ;.;
tawny maple
The one on Raiderio is fine
mighty valley
overall going left seems smarter
latent pier
Though I'm happy I only died once on the last 15
It only took 20 minutes over the time limit >.>
tawny maple
Streets is pretty streamlined not really much you can do
sweet summit
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dino+dogs pull kinda fucks on fortified (people will die) not the tank tho) so you can split that pull if you don't have huge cds
rest is pretty straight forward
latent pier
Gathering everything to the door and just aftershocking it down with the group's aoe was my most successful strategy so far.
mighty valley
watch the road
ionic fern
I believe in you
sweet summit
ty man
latent pier
I rewatched Biz's reflect and tip videos last night, massive help x.x
Also, ty for the route!
dark lark
This boss has very few dps and hps checks, which most of the top guilds already ...
I love this
sweet summit
u taunt before volley after red shit on ground
distant crystal
it's reflecting the red shit?
sweet summit
the bolt
distant crystal
i could prob just read it, ahh
sweet summit
you reflect the bolt
distant crystal
my luck someone would kick anyway then i get melee'd to death
sweet summit
but there is always a volley right after the red shit cast thing
so u can taunt then
right?
well you move out of melee
mighty valley
yeah this doesn't sound like protection talk >: (
latent pier
You guys ever use seismic reverb or whatever to blow up low keys?
Or is that kinda just a meme
The double revenge lego. Forgot the name and not at comp.
jagged pier
yes its greats
jagged pier
Is prot war getting defeensive buff ?
it doesnt need it
latent pier
yes its greats
Might try it once my auctions sell lol
austere forum
is it bad to macro Shield Block into Shield Slam?
austere forum
ok. I am having trouble figuring out mitigation...
latent pier
A tracker does wonders. I use Naomi's but free ones exist and do the job fine
Naowh's. Autocorrect ftl
chrome falcon
does someone have the copy pasta on how to log
austere forum
Do I use these two abilities often - or sparingly ? Victory Rush + Ignore Pain?
chrome falcon
or is it in the pins in a different channel
you're almost never going to have victory rush available
use it if it's up though it's good
but yes you use ignore pain
there's nothing else to spend rage on defensively
austere forum
ok one more: revenge only on procs? or more often?
jagged pier
How do i log ?
So, if you have been here for a while, you may have noticed that whenever somebody ask for advice we ask them for a log, and if you’re new you might have no idea what that means or how to get one so :
🔸 First, download Loggerhead (https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/loggerhead) or ERT (https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/exorsus-raid-tools)
Once you have one of these any time you enter a zone where you might want a log (ie dungeon/raid/torghast) these addons will automatically start logging (in the case of ERT you have to activate automated logging in the options).
Alternatively if you don’t want to install an addon for it, whenever you are going to do an activity you want to log type /combatlog in chat to start logging said activity.
Remember to activate advanced logging in the options (System -> Network -> Advanced Combat Logging)
All these options will store your logs in your wow file inside the retail folder and the log file.
🔸 Second, go here (https://www.warcraftlogs.com/client/download) download the client. Select the live section of the client, select the upload a log button and select the fight you’re interested in putting up as a log and boom you’re done.
🔸 Third, once you’ve done all this, your log is uploaded you can put it up here and we can look at it together to see if you’re doing something wrong.
If you wish look at your own log Jakey made a nice little video explaining what we look at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tRp8lULT8
chrome falcon
ty jake
mighty valley
ok one more: revenge only on procs? or more often?
way more often
latent pier
yes its greats
quick question, just made it on some lower ilvl boots to trial it, do we change any talents when we rock it?
jagged pier
no
latent pier
thanks again.
junior jolt
it doesnt need it
I am not saying it does, but guildie said prot wars are getting defensive buff soon
was said by blizz, but cant find that info, thinkin its troll
distant crystal
jagged pier
I am not saying it does, but guildie said prot wars are getting defensive buff s...
havent heard anything of the sort
strong forum
thats copium
latent pier
it may be bullshit but
please don't be bullshit please don't be bullshit please don't be bullshit
deft hinge
it wont happen, blizz gave us 6% dam. that was their answer
junior jolt
hes gonna link it to me
He said it was something along the lines of a defensive buff
distant crystal
never gonna give you up
junior jolt
Not offensive
distant crystal
never gonna let you down
latent pier
Is prot the weakest offensively too?
latent pier
via blueposts, I guess?
strong forum
Is prot the weakest offensively too?
No
junior jolt
I think it was a tweet from lead dev or smt
strong forum
Riiiight
junior jolt
prot war will be fine with double lego and 4set offensively
but was surprised to hear smt about defensive
strong forum
I'd be extremely surprised
About any kind of pwar changes
Especially from a fucking tweet
They never say that on twitter
junior jolt
I dunno I am praying he send it to me
latent pier
prot war will be fine with double lego and 4set offensively
Kinda curious how we compare to the others on this front when everybody has their new toys.
I assume nothing will ever touch kyrian pally, but otherwise
Like a dev wouldn't break NDA to tell you that shit, so I'm really doubting you.
junior jolt
Well my friend says his friend works as a plumber at blizzard because they needed a repair
And he overheard them speaking the lead dev
nah jk, my guildie will link it to me soon and if its authentic will say here
it wasnt clearly stated what it is, just something along the lines of def
mossy ferry
Anyone know off hand the current post-nerf scaling factors for the Blood Spattered Scale shield hitting multiple targets, and how many targets it scales up to?
latent pier
so this was an elaborate troll
His dad might work for Nintendo dude
mossy ferry
And whether the scaling factors are the same as or different from Pulsating Riftshard?
latent pier
It got nerfed?
distant crystal
nerfed awhile back, my 262 was doing 93K shield when it hits 5 targets
mossy ferry
It did get nerfed. https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-9-2-ptr-trinket-tuning-hotfixes-for-february-18th-phial-of-putrefaction-326007
distant crystal
and it stops at 5
afaik
but it was on a bear with giga vers so idk the base numbers
chrome falcon
prot is doing fine offensively now that the raid has some fights we can actually execute
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XF94CWMaJZdVcy7P#fight=29&phase=5 not really incredible evidence of anything since we didn't kill it but
i didn't even have the execute conduit on
tropic linden
w8, we are using the execute conduit?
chrome falcon
if the fight has a 2 minute long execute phase? fuck yeah
strong forum
in raid you 100% want to use ashen juggernaut
craggy pilot
anyone know how Anduin works with an uneven number of people?
urban portal
w8, we are using the execute conduit?
everything else fking blows
chrome falcon
the execute conduit is fucking crazy
50% crit chance on an ability that crits for up to 30k? yes please
urban portal
show of force has to be the worst conduit in the game
latent pier
prot is doing fine offensively now that the raid has some fights we can actually...
More curious about m+ regarding our offensive limits. I know other tanks are better, but I like prot and can't be assed to gear another char
latent pier
show of force has to be the worst conduit in the game
Bet
distant crystal
latent pier
urban portal
thats not a potency conduit
shouldve specified
and thats actually relevant in pvp
tho its not amazing either
urban portal
if show of force had 2 stacks to it then its good
urban portal
or flip it around
chrome falcon
yeah i mean if you could stack show of force and then dump a 2pc thunderclap into it
that would be sweet
latent pier
Feels like we got punished for how good prot was in bfa.
chrome falcon
yeah the conduit would make a lot more sense gameplay wise
prot is not good in m+ but it fucks hard in raid
and it's still totally fine in m+
urban portal
prot prob pumps on among us
chrome falcon
prots biggest problem in m+ is getting invited to groups because people think prot sucks
strong forum
i still dont understand
why they got rid of iron maiden
and gave use this bullshit
chrome falcon
what is/was iron maiden
urban portal
strong forum
%chance on revenge cast to reset SB cd
chrome falcon
oh was that on beta or something
strong forum
ye
urban portal
it would be like 10~ or so at current ilvl
tropic linden
everything else fking blows
was using TC one
chrome falcon
yeah with the conduit ilvls we have now
urban portal
yeah
chrome falcon
that would be fucked up
urban portal
that one blows
strong forum
they removed this, and replaced it with show of force...
latent pier
Having downtime one the one thing that makes you tanky just seems like shitty design in general.
Heavy repercussions should be baseline
urban portal
my only problem with this conduit is that it isnt potency
chrome falcon
nah AM should be baseline
strong forum
AM
latent pier
If I had to pick
chrome falcon
having shield block downtime is fine
latent pier
Yes
chrome falcon
gives us windows of weakness to play around
latent pier
Windows of weakness are fine not a fucking hole in the wall
strong forum
AM downtime is only fine if you can deal with it elsewhere
but in the current game
AM downtime is terrible
tropic linden
Do i revenge on execute window?
latent pier
How does the offensive mode on that raid shield work?
chrome falcon
oh shit that's a good idea
have every ability macro'd so that if it could be execute
it becomes execute
urban portal
you only IP if you need to live
tropic linden
Yeah, the second won't trigger
latent pier
So is ip just worthless? I basically pressed it between packs when I had too much rage
urban portal
no
tropic linden
Cause u used execute
chrome falcon
no IP is good we're memeing
urban portal
the 2nd wouldnt ever trigger
tropic linden
the 2nd wouldnt ever trigger
that's the idea
urban portal
even if you cant execute
tropic linden
oh
chrome falcon
if you have to ip then ip it's just depressing
tropic linden
even if you cant execute
why? If i'm not on GCD
urban portal
its just how macros work
strong forum
even if you cant execute
it would work
urban portal
arms could literally fit their entire rotation in 1 macro that way
strong forum
its a priority list
urban portal
lemme try it real quick
strong forum
theres a difference between X spell on CD and cant use X spell
if a spell is on CD, yes it wont work
strong forum
but if you legit cant use execute, it just uses the other
jagged pier
that would be like 20% with ilvl and empowered by now
then we wouldnt need to play rep
jagged pier
nah it was higher than that from what i remeber
tropic linden
even if on 10%, would be just fine
chrome falcon
tbf even if we didn't need to play rep
it's not like any of the other legendaries do anything
latent pier
I'd really like if reflect kept the Dr for its entire duration over just going away from one cast
chrome falcon
play legion private servers
jagged pier
it's not like any of the other legendaries do anything
but u could run a dps leggo
strong forum
at 226ilvl it was already like 10%
jagged pier
without loosing defence
strong forum
iirc
jagged pier
at 226ilvl it was already like 10%
yer exactly
latent pier
If I'm playing a private server I'd do MoP over friggin legion
jagged pier
it would be busted by now
urban portal
@strong forum @tropic linden it doesnt work on arms for execute and slam
strong forum
if im playing private server id kms
urban portal
will try it with execute and revenge
chrome falcon
that's the only way you're going to get godlike spell reflect
urban portal
charge isnt on gcd
chrome falcon
rip glittering scales
urban portal
thats why it works
yeah it completely bricks the macro
/cast execute /cast revenge
urban portal
like i said the only reason charge works is because neither charge or intervene is on gcd
vast plume
🤔
urban portal
otherwise fury would literally have 1 button rotation
/cast rampage /cast raging blow /cast bloodthirst
strong forum
as if it doesnt already
urban portal
its 2 buttons rn
strong forum
urban portal
50% les
urban portal
what do you mean
blazing condor
feels like theyre talking about the wrong conduit
urban portal
yeah this is wrong
mwahi fix this
brutal vit is increasing your IP by a % of damage
its kind of like leech
blazing condor
i mean deep wounds count as damage
but thats definitely not gonna add to your IP lol
pic seems like they talking about the deep wounds conduit i cant remember the name of
urban portal
you get free deep wounds from doing anything
you cant not have deep wounds on something
blazing condor
urban portal
you have to be actively trolling
ionic fern
Probably just a typo.
candid path
will fix
sweet summit
ty llarold love u big time
candid path
👍
sweet summit
friendzoned again
candid path
❤️
blazing condor
mossy ferry
@candid path While you're here, the warrior trinket page description for Aegis refers to Stagger: https://www.wowhead.com/protection-warrior-gear-guide#trinkets
candid path
oh lord
strong forum
You meant to say oh llarold
candid path
I fix!
ionic fern
True.
strong forum
i knew something was off
latent pier
so as ilvl goes up, will secret technique be the play or probably sack + scale?
latent pier
mine's only heroic so not sure if it's gonna be bis but I won't complain if it still is.
trying to farm specific trinkets is ass.
Which key do you guys hate the most?
dawn canyon
in general its defo SD
junior jolt
streets is ez
mellow bridge
yeaaaaah
junior jolt
which side do you go? left or right
mellow bridge
I've done both at +19
and it's significantly harder than every other key
you can easily add 2-3 keylevels on streets to get a realistic number for it
junior jolt
I find it much easier then others
mellow bridge
there are just so many random casts that can easily kill any group member at any point
most groups cannot stop every cast
and the tank dmg is absurdly high in some packs
depending on your keylevel stuff like that doesnt happen as dmg isnt high enough yet
altho I will admit that on fort the bosses are ez af
junior jolt
ive tanked 19 street, but not complete bc pug leave immediately
they fail on post
disban
I find left side, extremly ez
mellow bridge
we did left too in our timed run
junior jolt
though i pref right side, ppl just dont focus on the teleport and kick
mellow bridge
the cats are massively grp dependant tho
I guess as you play warr it's kinda easy thanks to spear
but if you dont have spear/vortex theyre VERY hard
junior jolt
yeah, we used everything on that one, but it wasnt prob
tbh pug is just toxic
so its always hit and miss
junior jolt
do u have any set?
junior jolt
tier
junior jolt
Yeah thats bangin, I mainly pugged last tiers and 1st / 2nd week curve
but since i join guild, we not allowed to do bosses if a raid day is available
mellow bridge
1st week curve with pugs is real good tbh
mellow bridge
I'm very happy theyre releasing tier catchup
so many of my raid are already at 3 pieces
junior jolt
I think its the only best thing out of SL
mellow bridge
meanwhile a few have 0 or 1 lmao
so next week we will probably have 4p and 0p in the same grp
with the same amount of boss kills
👍
junior jolt
Yeah, terrible imo
I havent seen one
but tbh, its my guild raid times that are extremely difficult to cleanup on things I dont have
wed - mon - tue
when raid schdule is over, no time to look for bosses im missing ;_; sadge
mellow bridge
how many do you guys have down?
trust me, some of the later ones youre not gonna pug anyways rn lmao
junior jolt
only 4, 1 more raid day tomorrow
mellow bridge
I cant see a pug get past anduin at the moment
junior jolt
tbh the pug group i usually join, they got everything iirc
mellow bridge
lords would be doable maybe but rygelon slaps hard too again
that must be one hell of a pug lmao
junior jolt
yeah they are all mixutre of CE
mellow bridge
is it more like an alt run or what?
junior jolt
no its ppl just raiding 12 hours a day until boss dead
junior jolt
so its not efficient 😛
Guild much more efficient and consistant, but its hella fun sitting there with ahead of curve and everyone else slowly catching up
but at a great cost of time, bc of inefficiency of pug
junior jolt
I like to build bridges with people I hate to defeat a boss
I dont think about myself
I try to think for the greater good of Azeroth
mellow bridge
Yea I know that feel Harrow
junior jolt
What does she want?
mellow bridge
Raiding in my previous guild wasn't very fun
But luckily I found some great people 
junior jolt
do u play on eu?
mellow bridge
Yeah
mellow bridge
I just like to play a diff specc each tier tbh
I need smth else after an entire tier of one tank
junior jolt
I have to do much more to do what other tanks can do
mellow bridge
Nathria was brm, then sod as prot and now vdh
junior jolt
Yeah, thats good way
I can stop playing war - since like late vanilla/tbc
I know i would have much easier time on prot pala, vdh, bdk
and well guardian x)
mellow bridge
Kyrian always
You could play necro if your group REALLY needs it
But it's quite a bit worse
junior jolt
what u mean by rep
sweet summit
hello
mighty valley
rep-risal
junior jolt
i knew that
sweet summit
yes it is safe
yes it should be reprisal
strong forum
If you can't be fucked that's you on m8
mighty valley
blatant muyuu disrespect
junior jolt
what rio are u muyuu atm
strong forum
Surely there's a way to fuck
sick sentinel
Anyone else try paladin from warrior and find it boring as hell compared to prot war?
sweet summit
fake prot
mighty valley
warrior fucks
strong forum
I don't play other tanks
cinder nova
do you get conders for uhhh
junior jolt
I love playing prot pala, I have all tanks - only thing I hate about it is the bell noise
cinder nova
salvaging 262s
strong forum
Besides vdh, but vdh is shit in SL so I don't play it
sweet summit
yes you do
junior jolt
drives me nuts
cinder nova
oh pog
sweet summit
1650 back from salvaging 262
cinder nova
How many do you need for 291
cinder nova
bro that's it?
sweet summit
ya
cinder nova
finally blizz gets it
mighty valley
torghast is also comedy easy to farm now
cinder nova
Am I memeing for going feet with reprisal?
strong forum
No
cinder nova
Seems the only slot since leggies is tier
sweet summit
yes
strong forum
Yes
mellow bridge
Feet is normal yes
mighty valley
three people have now said feet are correct lmao
sweet summit
need more
strong forum
🐾
junior jolt
Uh like 2850
nice im slowly getting up - 2729 atm - do u play in pug ?
strong forum
Erga you 3k yet
mellow bridge
Rn I play mostly with rnd guildies
sweet summit
no lol
strong forum
Slacker
mellow bridge
Some of them have XP, some don't
sweet summit
have been in raid prison for 2 days in a row now
mellow bridge
3k next week ez <:deswind:533073964096946176>
I desperately need a spires tmr still
sweet summit
mighty valley
all these numbers sounded so high for week 2 then i remembered there are just two entire extra dungeons to get score from
sweet summit
i have a 20 spires for u wink wink (please let me out of tank prison)
mellow bridge
cinder nova
does the runecarver salvage
sweet summit
cinder nova
or is it oribus
strong forum
I just saw only 8 tanks are 3k
sweet summit
runecarver
strong forum
You are excused
cinder nova
OriBUSSY
sweet summit
ty nome
mellow bridge
I don't think a lot of tanks felt like pushing the first tyr week
With new scaling and fucking bolstering lmao
This week is so much more comfy
junior jolt
yeah its much more chill this weak
mellow bridge
Well it's a diff way than they usually do it
Only blizz can tell us if it's intended or not I guess
strong forum
Ya but still, the discussion was if its a bug or not
strong forum
And yeah, seems intended if there's not been a word about it
mighty valley
our m+ power gain is gonna be way bigger than last season too
cinder nova
Don't get clapped kek
mellow bridge
Some pulls with urh are spooky ngl
strong forum
Seems like this is just a different approach instead of doing 10% key scaling instead of 8%
Like in s4
Dunno if it changes anything for high keys
mellow bridge
It def hits us harder early on
strong forum
Ya hits harder early
But in the long run?
Cuz if it's the same outcome
Should've just went with the 10% lol
mellow bridge
Yeah
strong forum
yeah its much more chill this weak
That's mainly cuz it's easier to deal with pack hp in lower keys rather than boss hp
junior jolt
yeah
waxen orbit
That Spires padding 
waxen orbit
Simplifies it when glancing mid combat
icy flax
Hey guys, I could really use some help.
I need to find out why a Prot warrior tank in my guild is dying so much on: Prototype Pantheon Heroic.
The log is: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DRa7TJ2bNt6qzV3p#type=healing&fight=37
Warrior's name is: Xugo
I was given consent from the guild to ask, due to social anxiety from the other party.
Any assistance or comments on how we can improve is much appreciated.
dark lark
- You guys should probably clean up the deaths of your healers/dps first; in wipes 1, 2, 4, and 5 he's not the problem.
- In wipe #3, he takes 4 out of 7 melee hits without blocking in his last 15 seconds, and from what I can tell he isn't hitting Ignore Pain much to ease off the damage of Burden of Sin, which is honestly a healer mechanic unfortunately.
- In wipe #6, he takes 5 out of 9 melee hits without blocking in his last 15 seconds. He also gets hit by the Animastorm which is avoidable. Also in wipe #6, you have two healers down (the Hpal died twice, and an Rsham is dead)
mellow bridge
It's at 60 something%
That can easily be 25% higher
Like in the last wipe
He intervened once and charged 3 times in 6:30 mins
That's awful
So much SB uptime and free rage missed for no reason
2 SW casts only while playing AM, could easily fit another good one in at least
Playing double on use trinket but barely using them
A single scale cast in that duration, just use a good passive trinket at that point
The amount of rage wasted by overcapping isn't too bad
Oh and very low CPM
My sod logs have a solid 15-20 cpm more
That's a LOT of stuff wasted
This is him
This is me on a random the nine log
Missing a shit ton of SS and TC casts which are just basic rotational mistakes
Don't really wanna look at more on my phone but that should be plenty to work at
(very likely your entire raid is doing very similar mistakes so don't dogpile on him too hard, thanks)
median tulip
Oh, they are putting a Season 3 socket item in the vault
mellow bridge
Yeah the vault changes are real nice
median tulip
Changes are here if anyone wants to read: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/great-vault-rewards-update-march-15/1201225
shut summit
icy flax
@dark lark @mellow bridge Thanks a million you two, both for your quick responses and your constructive criticism. Hope you have a good week.
ocean yoke
ooh 2 piece feels quite nice
chrome falcon
I am officially claiming credit for this bug fix along with the mods of the discord
But really, mostly me. You're all welcome.
shut summit
😎
chrome falcon
Now everyone can enjoy the 4piece that they don't have yet!
mighty valley
this bug is why i'm fucking terrible (don't have tier)
forest fern
not sure if i'm that bad or what... is tanking heroic Vigilant Guardian is that hard to do?
mighty valley
No
if you're doing something like... 24s before getting tier set, then maybe
anything else, no
limpid pawn
24's?
mighty valley
+24 keys
limpid pawn
only 1 person has done a 24 lol
and there are a ton of tanks i see (prot war) that have HR
i wanna know if it actually feels better than AM
limpid pawn
lol, this reminds me of versatile corruption in nyalotha
ppl were saying "only in +24 keys!"
but that made things so much easier even in lower ish keys
mighty valley
It'll get you to basically perfect block uptime with no effort but you'll do less damage, so it'll be slower
what keys are you doing?
waxen orbit
felt so much better
Then you're not properly using your defensives or managing shield block in lower keys if HR feels better
Also is LFR worth for tier?
mighty valley
It’s worth the ilvl drop, up to you if it’s worth the queue time + however long it takes an lfr group to figure its shit out on your server
For a kinda low chance at drop
urban portal
Also is LFR worth for tier?
Here's what I would do: queue up as a tank every hour or so, if you don't get the tier boss immediately then leave
Do that over the course of a week while doing something else
Today I had to sit through the entire raid on my warrior but got put into halon as dh
crystal iris
just did a key with HR
It’s nice in Fort
crystal iris
Also is LFR worth for tier?
Yes
waxen orbit
FUCK
crystal iris
Didn’t get?
waxen orbit
Cleared all of norm
5/8 heroic
Not a single piece of loot
No tier
No gear
Nothing
crystal iris
Rip
waxen orbit
Gotta love Blizzard's bad luck protection regression
crystal iris
If everyone got tier week 1 it wouldn’t be so exciting
The tokens are good for trading once we get gear
waxen orbit
I'm talking about reroll tokens
Like we used to have
There was nothing wrong with that
crystal iris
Ah
waxen orbit
Just offered a degree of bad luck protection
So you could have another fair shot at the piece you needed
But they removed it because ??
crystal iris
Woah nice
I mean it’s basically impossible out of 9 slots and then re-doing normal and heroic
You’ll get something this week
waxen orbit
Hoping I get something decent. Got 278 non-tier gloves last week with a 9 slot 😢
crystal iris
Think about it this way if you get 278 tier then you get that same drop from@normal you can sell it for like 300k
Or maybe 15 mil if you run with rogues
cinder nova
Today I had to sit through the entire raid on my warrior but got put into halon ...
mfw I queued into LFR, immediately got Halon, then copped tier legs :^)
I'm sweating about my vault. I'm hoping for tier chest/shoulders since I have some decently itemized gloves from M+ and an above-average ilvl hat
I'll take tier in those slots too, just sucks I'd be trashing my ilvl
strong forum
You'll love dropping ilvl. If you want to or not