just because you can and know you wont need them soon tm
#protection
strong forum
safe thistle
would you still pick ravager in m+ or ITF this season with the relic
strong forum
ravager
waxen orbit
Anyone have a Gambit route?
blazing condor
Anyone have a Gambit route?
@sweet summit
sweet summit
!1z52UTnoqy4NiBiEM82KGaS5cTfqDVLi2ruE1wvPaBPUDVjp7Rgo0ICuAtamepm)Zh)hsk5z(V6BEBAy66xoneMNd)Xy3e03PL5PhH(7hV4Fy3CA)PVw6N9nZHFU(7tHUtldZF8k33mD(FcVnFBvIAoOtl8eZ)SuZ5MkPQYyvsJr77oifWCE(GwBLvARZWywHHzHHu(Abe3AAEWxR8nnVhcTF8680hVE7B9VdjFCDOzyE50uZyGMWt0W7I)5R1(6dwi4bmGgfxDubX0CG5uh5qGnkM(ymyOt3rxCPMwiwHIZDwPWuj4gD1kTkWlG)Bw6BxZ1TBpEP)LNEy4V8nFVTh4R7Ai83tdTVm1pgA9N9nNdxw6ha3fW4(4qJvD(XPHLqS0SC9AyC(llddX1rQDZY5HWpcdXyFFDWBiD5FaxiUy2mIyflwuIg1DRdBGtFgMuX4R1IYwUYw8QIw42dWMfHvBoNN0ueyvrI0OI4W0Liit4M1cuYfGvDop5aW(eOWcuybkSqdbvZ4XYT1xB81U4dSQ4tWMe4rf(OgNRz36qeGHUBMZzqquvioYsCSOrArJ3g98ARG47cIXRrJXuA9YYKHZxN3ExAqUKzRkHqzq(SriuUieR7tlGWgNHJqIGuufKYVGynDNbRzB3abqn6kAIROqxrJUIfDfdXvKewq(yoIrijgbF3oLvKMHAykVjTtIMm3KAjzOvBxmEBj3AxedtvKBdpYTHr4Mt4wvIignRI4K7XgUtAZjj7YqP3kiC0yJtDRtzbZ10tSsY6Zrlz49vaBLQPY9Xs5ChVXd3zzuBef3gKVYHLVVzdO05fgJKtnzoAcbF(kHtSyHotGUKaK)Yl4U3E31t5uqdHxQgEY0KuruOY9lM2ubpWPjALHh6vsw0Mnj)CD7xDl02Y9onkICUCFK6wwuN)t3AKffdxVZ20eBlDKxtQ1ssEr)cFV9Don7CnIiCs4u)YUROfTB5wGLtLEIiDCZ8l924G)2tFXrJVfp9s2NwgVeMgJFTJWcFSt47W7RxF59TWW6x50pnwSpQ5AF38F21DlmV924KGT9DD9VT(js)xmnn)Bi8neo))d
waxen orbit
Thanks g
Gonna test this on a 13 with some guildies and then hitting it on a 17 later tonight
sweet summit
pretty chill if u get past murlock area clean
also grab the weak aura for first boss
waxen orbit
Guildie is saying the giant in first pull 1 shots people??
sweet summit
wrong
waxen orbit
They tweakin or is there sum to that?
sweet summit
stomp only stacks twice
and does not do a lot of damage
well it does damage, but not nearly enough to one shot
safe thistle
a 16 this week is close to a 22 last season eurg
jagged pier
no a 19
safe thistle
at least on boss hp
strong forum
youre comparing fort vs tyr then
safe thistle
dunno seems s2 was easier to start into than this one
anima power were way better
should make it that the rune you destroy make the other 2 despawn would be less dumb ?
dark lark
Does it really matter? The relics don't do much on their own
strong forum
so seems fine to me
safe thistle
well then i got very bad groups... boss were taking foreverrrrrr to kill
dark lark
Well yeah, st damage is very important in tyrannical
safe thistle
first week i guess the fact i gotta do it with guildy that does like 1 key a week and last one were like 2 months ago so they get vault... got me
dark lark
Every pug specs pure aoe in DOS because of going ardenweald first in S2 and then wonder why Hakkar doesn't die
strong forum
dont underestimate the inability for people to play well
its a HUGE factor even in low keys in SL when it comes to perception of difficulty or survivability
safe thistle
oh yah i felt it well when manastorm didnt get kicked and i had no spell reflect or interrupt up myself
i though glory would help the group on tyra didnt do much
safe thistle
any buff cant help bad play i guess
oh well once they will get 278 ilvl keystone master might be possible with them...
strong forum
safe thistle
my back hurt 😛
dark lark
Honestly the easiest way to pug high keys quickly is to form them yourself and be picky about who you bring
dark lark
Or inspect everybody else's ilvl and score if you're invited to one
Then, focus on your own play
Lol jakey
limpid pawn
a 15 currently was like a 20
dark lark
i can carry 95% of keys
You can't carry dps that don't prio target or kick or die :/
jagged pier
a 15 currently was like a 20
no
we lost 3 levels
so an 18
we've just lost a lot with dom sockets gone and tormentors gone
they were a lot of damage
dark lark
its just harder
It feels extra hard to do that as warrior, as pal or dk I feel like I have more tools to prevent group damage
I can only shockwave stormbolt intshout so often
dark lark
Grips are actually massive though
Like if you're pulling a faraway caster or a hot stubborn houndmaster
Or the spear thrower and bird pack in spires
I'm not talking about the raw tuning of warrior, I think it's damage and tankiness is fine
But the utility of other classes just lends themselves so much better to carrying keys
strong forum
bfa likes a word
ivory elbow
i have both tho
ivory elbow
is there a conduit i am missing xD
strong forum
then id just use safeguard instead
dark lark
You're not running soul glow spectrometer
strong forum
much better than the shockwave
dark lark
The one that goes up to 3% damage buff
strong forum
the shit trait on the left
ivory elbow
which one on the picture xd
strong forum
safeguard.
i literally said it
use that one instead of the dogshit one youre using in bottom right
ivory elbow
🤡
chrome falcon
bro i know it's week 1 logs but every time i see Boost get 3 PIs as prot warrior
ivory elbow
🤣
chrome falcon
it cracks me up
lime urchin
strong forum
bro i know it's week 1 logs but every time i see Boost get 3 PIs as prot warrior
its boost
always tries to do degen shit got get r1 logs at all costs
and jakey even beats him without it
chrome falcon
strong forum
but his guild started private logging
strong forum
trying doesnt mean succeeding
give it a few months until everybody has max gear and speedclears bosses
once every prot is full NL degen thats when the real sweaty shit will happen
strong forum
30k execute dps inc
jagged pier
skolex today
blazing condor
what does dailies in zereth mortis get you if you do them?
like in the long haul
im kinda too lazy to do the zereth mortis dailies but dont wanna superint
safe thistle
its the only real rep youll get
blazing condor
ye but the rep gives me what?
safe thistle
perma augment rune at exalted like all end of patch
safe thistle
😛
blazing condor
poge
safe thistle
i see you have the savior shield like it so far ?
safe thistle
but if its higher ilvl you pick it right 😛
strong forum
cuz those 1% stats aint gonna make up for a well timed absorb
jagged pier
like the sheild has saved me before
strong forum
cant you just make a WA lol
jagged pier
i dont make WA's
strong forum
smh
jagged pier
i just get told to import them
strong forum
WAs are fun
safe thistle
on mythic the shield is still 30k not bad at all
strong forum
we're very old soon
jagged pier
its 30k once every 3 mins
safe thistle
ohh 3 minute
strong forum
yah cuz its 2x 1.5min
safe thistle
ahh th 1m30sec is for each mode so you gotta come back to use again true
jagged pier
the damage is aweful, like over a dungeon is does nothing
and the on use cant crit so its kind of ok
blazing condor
holy
just wiped on 3rd boss HOA and lost key cus DH ran around and just kited a ghost
despite the lamp being directly next to the boss
so then we just had 2x ghosts whole fight
never seen that before
safe thistle
its a dh... 😛
sweet summit
wope
frigid spire
i miss Glad warrior 😦
obtuse monolith
i miss Glad warrior 😦
May its memory be a blessing
jagged pier
just wiped on 3rd boss HOA and lost key cus DH ran around and just kited a ghost
I saw it at the start of th expansion when ppl dont know the lanterns respawn
But i wouldnt expect it now
blazing condor
this game never ceases to surprise me
i called him out on it and he said "didn't see it"
like my guy
jagged pier
Pugs never suprise me
blazing condor
if it aint in any of the other 3 corners
jagged pier
Ive marked then before
blazing condor
its probably in the 4th
jagged pier
And ppl still run around
blazing condor
pat pat
waxen orbit
Just goes to show you that outside of your own sphere of high end players, 99.9999999% of this game’s player base is a walking paradox
Simultaneously elitist mindset yet dogshit at the game
Schrodinger’s gamer
strong forum
Schrödingers skillset
strong forum
Literally me on the left
Unless im the one on the right
Then im not the one on the left
chrome falcon
Is boost in this discord? I have to know how his raid reacts when he takes 4 PIs on heroic progression week
It's goddamn hilarious i respect that shit
jagged pier
Hes the raid leader and has always done shit like that
Like in uldir, he made it so he didnt do any mechanics on guhuun and just have max uptime even tho warrior was great at running the ball
chrome falcon
Even as RL I would never have the stones to ask for every PI on progression
Though after finding that we do 12k dps in execute with BL now I think I will
jagged pier
I dont think he asks
strong forum
Boosts literally only goal is just padding the logs
strong forum
Is boost in this discord? I have to know how his raid reacts when he takes 4 PIs...
He's Korean what do you think
chrome falcon
I didn't really do keys last season, do people just hate prot warriors
I am having a nightmare getting into pugs
I only ever get in when they need my covenant
chrome falcon
craggy pilot
did anyone find any nice Wo skips so far?
but you still have to kill that pack when you come out then?
kinda feel like the Urh might be better than Vy because it doesnt jump off
what if you go right, lust 1st pack, lust hakkar, lust pack outside NF, and then almost lust for NF boss as well?
not sure how the time will come out, might try that tbh
mellow bridge
yes
you can see their order
she throws little black things at the pillars in order of the circle appearing
ocean yoke
craggy pilot
is the 255 even better? 🤔
maybe better than the Stitchflesh?
did a couple of Urh kills, feels rly good compared to Vy jumping all over the place
urban portal
Better than bloodbath I'd say
remote cloak
Gonna be dumping target/mark macros for the relics for this seasons affix's feel free to take em
/target Vy Relic
/script SetRaidTarget("target", 8);
/target Urh Relic
/script SetRaidTarget("target", 8);
/target Wo Relic
/script SetRaidTarget("target", 8);
lofty widget
finally 40 % unbuffed haste
fading quiver
did i win the mythic + lottery?
scenic mural
Imagine go over time in a +7, then arguing with each other when not one dps is over 5k😁
waxen orbit
Tbh you asked for it when pugging a +7
scenic mural
grim hare
so should i be able to tank most trash pulls or do i need to kite as much as possible
urban portal
thats a vague question
sick sentinel
about how much vers should you go for? or is it dependent on your character and stat weights
median tulip
You shouldn't aim for any specific amount of Versa
median tulip
iLvl > Haste > Else
sick sentinel
oke doke
waxen orbit
so should i be able to tank most trash pulls or do i need to kite as much as pos...
Seriously depends on what packs you're talking about
Most packs? You should be able to face tank it
Just have shield block up with the occasional major CD
Only things to really kite are enraged things and gargons on Halls when bleeds are high and you have no way to clear it
Or kite if you're dying and your healer is dogshit
Like I said, it depends heavily on what you're talking about
balmy steeple
what are the current predictions for the 2 best high m+ trinkets?
waxen orbit
Ticking Sack and Scale
Both 278 obviously
252 Aegis will likely still be a fantastic runner up, if not outright competitor to Scale, though, despite the item level difference
It currently is even against 255/262 Scale variants (highest obtainable this week)
mighty cairn
are any defensive raid trinkets looking good or nah
balmy steeple
isnt ticking sac a straight dps trinket? does it scale well in prot?
mighty valley
killing stuff faster helps you live
waxen orbit
isnt ticking sac a straight dps trinket? does it scale well in prot?
Yes
Literally our best trinket
balmy steeple
ty
waxen orbit
Np
crystal iris
Gonna be dumping target/mark macros for the relics for this seasons affix's feel...
sorry what is the second line of each macro for?
waxen orbit
Lmao normal really is a joke
1 shotting every boss
99/100 every boss without trying
Tf going on in this difficulty level
honest flower
urban portal
every tank sucks about the same
buoyant pasture
Prot is fine but the other tanks bring more to the table in m+
sand pebble
scarlet bluff
Give us 6666% better ignore pain instead 😑
urban portal
make ignore pain abosrb 75%
blazing condor
is vicious headbutt blockable
Pretty sure it is
waxen orbit
Accurate
sand pebble
make ignore pain abosrb 75%
Give us legion ignore pain
sweet summit
mental scarab
Give is perma SB Huhu
jagged pier
I mean u can already have that
lime urchin
Hello frens
I am afraid to ask silly question
But I’ll do it anyway
We spell reflect that thingy on aerdenweald boss in Oda Side right? That doesn’t give the others the debuff, right?
jagged pier
if u mean the aoe where u ahve to go up, yes, yes u can
brittle owl
why are people crying about ignore pain
lime urchin
Because they don’t use mah macro
lime urchin
if u mean the aoe where u ahve to go up, yes, yes u can
Ok good. Thank you mr Jakey
brittle owl
and gave way to the whole ip>sb spectrum of autism
blazing condor
Dos is goated for spell reflects
Every boss has an ability thats beneficial to spell reflect
As well as shadowcore and shit
lime urchin
But with timing the shadowcore reflect can be sometimes a lil tricky, with all the other castings going off!
ionic fern
The smash?
Just watch his energy. He casts it once that bar is full.
blazing condor
But with timing the shadowcore reflect can be sometimes a lil tricky, with all t...
You can always reflect the first one at least
Otherwise just gotta be zoomin quick
uncut notch
tbf the damage has been fun, ive been absolutely ripping this week
tepid nest
did i win the mythic + lottery?
did you spend valor on this?
jagged pier
ew spending valor week one?
tepid nest
ye, bit sus
strong forum
Well, that ring is valor worthy
To be fair
And accessories, trinkets/shield are like the 3 things you are legally allowed to use valor on
dawn canyon
not wep 
strong forum
Idk, isn't weapon pricey af
Like 2h weapons are absolutely illegal to upgrade
Fucking 1500
Aren't 1h 750?, that's way too much, you could upgrade a shield 3x for that
uncut notch
Fucking 1500
Criminal - esp for fury
dawn canyon
i just get weps from box 
uncut notch
Not only is it hard to get a 2x 2h but when you do it will be the TOP5 you run with your friend to boost him instead of the 15s youve been farming and youve got a brick wall of Valor to get it somewhat workable
jagged pier
Fucking 1500
cant remeber but conquest wep is 1800 which means 3 weeks before u can buy it
but u can buy 2 1hs in that time
dawn canyon
smf fury
strong forum
Die fury die
sweet summit
live fury live
ionic fern
live fury live
Agreed. We are Pro-Fury channel.
sweet summit
lime urchin
Fury fun!
strong forum
Heresy
sweet summit
agree
jagged pier
i enjoy it in pvp, but thats about it
strong forum
oblique garnet
i enjoy it in pvp, but thats about it
Couple things wrong with that sentence can you tell which ones?
sweet summit
pvp is very fun !!1!
lime urchin
What is a pvp
sweet summit
spoiler, i did
oblique garnet
Spoiler i didnt participate
strong forum
NF, no SB using 12ilvl lead having ass
dawn canyon
spoiler you get to redo it someday
oblique garnet
5 prot this week in keys would probably do fine if our ST wasnt ass
dawn canyon
next week maybe?
strong forum
Give it till 4p2l
ionic fern
It's fine.
The last 20% of the bosses HP just melts.
dawn canyon
necro protter to kill boss
ionic fern
😂
strong forum
And bosses are gonna evaporate || sub 20 ||
strong forum
If everything works there, pwar will be #1 dps on that boss yeah
strong forum
sweet summit
6% buff tho !!
dawn canyon
6% buff and jailer 20
strong forum
Yeah every class lost Dom sockets, but pwar didn't
safe thistle
doing more dmg tha dps in keys aint a good thing for the event to come though 😛
some class got shafted hard by bliz for balance issue with the 2 leggo set piece
strong forum
Current numbers are literally 0 indication of anything
And no tank should do more dmg than any dps spec in m+, that's a shit player issue
safe thistle
i tested the cosmimc protoweave in keys and it heals is equal to 2% leech
but the avoindance is nice for fight like halondrus
undone verge
And no tank should do more dmg than any dps spec in m+, that's a shit player iss...
11 dos…
I was like oh this will be quick and easy so I can go to bed but then muezala is a 10 minute fight
lime urchin
Maybe the mage was eating chocolate cookies or smt
radiant magnet
mage brought lust!
undone verge
Probably while I was getting my ass beaten in
strong forum
11 dos…
Wow that's hilarious
That's less dps than people did with 180 ilvl in 9.0
undone verge
The worst I had seen before this was a rogue doing 3k in a 20 pf, but there is no excuse for a frost mage in dos
rugged mural
252 Sepulcher's Savior vs 246 crit/haste shield for M+? Not sure how valuable the passives are. The shield every 3 mins isn't too bad at ~22k
sweet summit
252
sweet summit
aegislash is way cooler and better and more epic in every way
undone verge
Now imagine you’re running for your life while some big purple ass hole spams shadow core at your face while your healer is getting one shot by the frontal and the mage hasn’t interrupted once the dungeon
strong forum
Aegislash has 5% more block value than shields of equal ilvl, and in this case its even higher ilvl
So it wins even more by default
rugged mural
Ok, thank you. Interested to see if I can plan out the actives well
sweet summit
don't use the active
rugged mural
Can't tell if you're serious or not? Best to keep it on defensive for harder content?
pale gust
That's tank dps of week1 of SL
How much are you doing?
lime urchin
If you time yer key, dps meter from the party doesn’t matter, yes or nah?
jagged pier
6-9k depending on dungeon
jagged pier
If you time yer key, dps meter from the party doesn’t matter, yes or nah?
doesnt matter if u dont
sweet summit
How much are you doing?
halls 17
jagged pier
99.9% of times is mechanics being failed that doesnt time a key
craggy pilot
halls 17 <:okayge:917646812519739433>
oof nice, i had this in a +11 NW
what kind of gear are you rocking by now Erga?
craggy pilot
whoa nice, im only 245 😄 guess i gotta smash some more +10s
also considering playing without Scale, and just going Phial+Sac 😄
strong forum
How much are you doing?
I was talking about that mage
That mage did 180ilvl tank dmg
quick coyote
Q. As a kyrian Pwar whats the best SB (single target and M+)?
quick coyote
Cool wasn’t sure if it had changed.
undone verge
Honestly what’s stopping me from doing those big keys is just even when I have SB and IP up, I still feel like I’m taking too much dmg, or I just don’t feel sí have enough rage to keep ignore pain up. Maybe I’m just pressing revenge too much, but like the highest I can push atm is a 15-16
lime urchin
I mean, those screenshots of dps meters really mean shit right
lime urchin
Honestly what’s stopping me from doing those big keys is just even when I have S...
Drop some logs so people can see where you can improve
For example, how often you use shield wall and your effective shield@block uptime
median tulip
Aegislash has 5% more block value than shields of equal ilvl, and in this case i...
if it's in defensive mode
strong forum
As you should use it most of the time yes
And next week you'll have 2x fort + 1x tyr active
Isnt that lovely
sweet summit
🙂
jagged pier
strong forum
"we've seen the popularity of the affixes over the years and decided you give you the Sam affixes twice ontop of that!"
"but fort and tyr is always active?!"
""
jagged pier
probs extra tuning for tier sets
not that a lot of ppl will have them quickly
if at all
jagged pier
that copium i reckon end of expansion youll still see ppl in pugs without them
strong forum
Yeah it's obv to counteract tier + 2leggo
But they could've just done the s4 route and increase key scaling
And not just slap this thing on
mellow bridge
if pugs at the end of expansion dont have them, theyre retarded
you will be able to instantly craft a set at that point
sweet summit
undone verge
I’ll drop logs tonight I haven’t taken any yet
jagged pier
heard that before but
plush moat
guys, is Shard of Annhylde's Aegis still way better than the ones in the new raid now ?
jagged pier
yep
blazing condor
Someone crash course me in fury trinkets i am apprently raiding as dps in a few hours
undone verge
Overwhelming power crystal and Old warrior soul. Anima field emiter also really good
inner sable
Use the ones that give dps
undone verge
Overwhelming power crystal and Old warrior soul. Anima field emiter also really ...
Guardian trinket if you need another one.
Phial from pf also is really good
Or ticking sack of terror from Taz
Or soleh trinket
jagged pier
power crystal has never been good for us
blazing condor
Man i aint touched dps for a hot minute
And when i have ive played arms
But dont got EB as arms so fuck it fury time
undone verge
power crystal has never been good for us
Prob not for prot but it’s S tier for fury
At least it was, bunch of raid trinkets are gonna overshadow it prob
blazing condor
What gives the crit value in fury from opc? Em? Or just in general
I guess this is a better topic for #fury but fuck it
undone verge
EM recklessness paired with em crit dmg paired with OPC’s crit chance is busted for crits
Running Pelagos and AM+Recklessness conduit is nice for keeping CDS lined up.
Sometimes I’ll wait and keep OPC up for my 1 min bursts, but usually I just press opc off cd until it lines up. But def ask #fury about whether opc should be used off cd or held 30 sec to line up with cds
undone verge
EM recklessness paired with em crit dmg paired with OPC’s crit chance is busted ...
Recklessness crit plus double rage allows you to spam rampage
Pretty much just optimizing how many times you can press rampage charge-reck-opc-spear-rampage-bladestorm-rampage-execute(if it procs)a#-(normal rotation of rampage>execute>raging blow>blood thirst>whirlwind
blazing condor
Thanks
undone verge
It’s all about the muscle memory id practice on some target dummies before you raid
sweet summit
Someone crash course me in fury trinkets i am apprently raiding as dps in a few ...
sim it
blazing condor
Yeah i realized you can do that
Also shame for not using 
But im not home and was a bit stressed!!
sweet summit
!!
craggy pilot
255 shield, worth upgrading with Valor? 🤔
strong forum
255 shield, worth upgrading with Valor? 🤔
Not yet
craggy pilot
ah ye tru
strong forum
You'll get 265(?) drops
Starting next week
So you'd essentially waste like 3 upgrade levels just because you were greedy
jagged pier
278
undone verge
Someone crash course me in fury trinkets i am apprently raiding as dps in a few ...
Btw if you want to get more advanced with an opener reckless before charge the blood thirst aparently gets you rampage, but that’s just what the fury discord says
blazing condor
thanks : )
turns out im not raiding at all but imma look into my off-spec anyway so tyvm
undone verge
turns out im not raiding at all but imma look into my off-spec anyway so tyvm <:...
np
wild hemlock
you will be able to instantly craft a set at that point
sorry for necroing. but could you explain for my dumbass. My main is shammy but i did some keys on my prot boy this week
minor helm
You'll get 265(?) drops
Should be 262
blazing condor
🍿
eager lodge
this has to be worth the valor right?
dawn canyon
Nice name
eager lodge
thanks
urban portal
this has to be worth the valor right?
Yeah with a socket for sure
mighty valley
gotta be one of my favorite cabochons
waxen orbit
Gambit keys are a myth
They don't exist
They only exist when it's someone with OCE ping or someone with like 8 untimed 15s and 2k io last season
chilly brook
What gives the crit value in fury from opc? Em? Or just in general
Just general
EM definitely helps tho
chilly brook
Realistically a lot worse
Just learn to charge
And intervene
It's really not a lot of work
rough ridge
I figured that was the real answer
the wowhead guide makes it seem not way worse to use the wall but I figured it was being generous
chilly brook
Like I promise you
blazing condor
i think people just overestimate the actual difficulty of reprisal
chilly brook
It's not hard
blazing condor
you just press intervene and charge more
chilly brook
It's simple tbh
chilly brook
The opportunity cost is a lot lower
rough ridge
gotcha
does it cause any problems in raid intervening your co tank or do you usually pick a melee
chilly brook
melee
lime urchin
Reprisal makes prot woioir even more fun!
And you get a charge, and you get a charge, and you get an intervene
icy flax
Have yall been using the revenge lego or too squishy
clear zenith
Hey guys, didn’t find it in pins: do we leave Unity on belt or is it worth crafting in a different slot?
cobalt grove
I use the wall when I need more shield wall uses in a raid encounter or primarily single target fights.
ocean reef
Have yall been using the revenge lego or too squishy
Seismic is definitely usable but generally speaking reprisal is also a lot of extra damage if played properly
While also giving you survivability
urban portal
benzai tank?
ocean reef
yes I witnessed ErgaW tank so obviously as a peer of his I'm now also a prot warrior
jagged pier
ocean reef
<:garms:917120195527598201>
You liked what you saw?
wild hemlock
let me bring the windfury
waxen orbit
Bro fucking So'leah hurts
sweet summit
strong forum
DW my charizard card is right there besides me
blazing condor
mint innit
oblique garnet
yes I witnessed ErgaW tank so obviously as a peer of his I'm now also a prot war...
🤔
sweet summit
pretty good
ocean reef
erga never lies
oblique garnet
erga never lies
Sure 
ocean reef
Sure <a:keksquad:766690598635044895>
I believe Erga with all of my heart and soul
He would never lie to me, to my face
strong forum
i am rosjen
sweet summit
chilly brook
i am rosjen
Oh sheeeeeeesshhh where ya been????
Took an extended vacation at the start of BFA huh?
eager lodge
Do explosives not give you stacks in sanguine depths anymore?
eager lodge
I wonder if that means spiteful's won't give a stack either
lime urchin
Do explosives not give you stacks in sanguine depths anymore?
No they don’t
deft hinge
have they fixed lock portal skip in mists? the portal never works after patch
strong forum
theyd have to rewrite how walls work
blazing condor
also have they fixed heroic leap with it?
or did i just a suck the last time i tried
blazing condor
radiant magnet
they adjusted the invis walls around that area. apparently locks can still pull it off tho, just harder
blazing condor
since you got like 8 classes who can skip anyway it dont matter realllly
worst case just invis pot
radiant magnet
guild lock says they have to climb the wall there to get closer or higher, then cast
cant confirm that, but meh
deft hinge
yeah som of my friends got trough, we others standing there like fools
radiant magnet
just some new trick. give it a month, all the locks will know it
til then, adjust & adapt - we're good at that
pure sun
Anyone got a good lil guide for how to properly use reprisal in m+?
blazing condor
Anyone got a good lil guide for how to properly use reprisal in m+?
Theres a section in the icy veins guide
But tldr use intervene on cd and charge weave
oblique garnet
have they fixed lock portal skip in mists? the portal never works after patch
They messed with pathing this patch you can leap alot of things now either but the gateway works for somepeople and some doesnt
median tulip
Anyone got a good lil guide for how to properly use reprisal in m+?
Make a macro that intervenes on your focus target and set a melee DPS as focus to make using intervene utterly brainless
strong forum
Mouseover gang ww@
Just broadly aim mouse into melee camp
And Spam intervene, should work
median tulip
The other good tip is to make sure you know the caster/ranged mobs in packs, because they make counter charging an absolute doddle
My actual macro is this:
/cast [@mouseover, help, nodead, exists][@mouseovertarget, help, nodead, exists][@focus, help, nodead, exists][target=targettarget, help, nodead, exists][]Intervene
Conditionals
strong forum
Nodead and exists are the same essentially
median tulip
And you might think so, but there are edge cases where they are helpful to have in place
median tulip
Nodead and exists are the same essentially
Not actually true; for example, if you don't have the "exists" conditional in the @sinful boltovertarget section the macro will terminate there if the mouseover doesn't have any target at all
Like I say, it's an edge case, but it can happen
strong forum
Idk bro my shit just work and it's legit just @mouseover help exists, I think
The usual intervene + charge in 1 button macro
Does the trick just fine
median tulip
To each their own playstyle
strong forum
urban portal
yeah its annoying when it says "invalid target" or whatever
at the end of the day doesnt matter
strong forum
Get bugsack
(addon)
And clean up your addons in general
I see alot of shit on that minimap
Also update addons if you didn't
chilly brook
that's a mess
my friend centralize your player frame, target and your weakaura
and put details somewhere where it's the furthest most out of the way place from the center of the screen
lilac bloom
i can't get rid of this message
i might do that
everytime someone says something it overlays it
frigid spire
ok dumb question time how dose one get more procs of REVENGE seeing its our main bread and butter with the Lego and 4 pc
pliant sage
ok dumb question time how dose one get more procs of REVENGE seeing its our main...
Reprisal gives Revenge! as part of it's Charge and Inter rewards. More procs for more damage.
distant crystal
And you might think so, but there are edge cases where they are helpful to have ...
nah nodead includes exists
[@sinful boltover, help, nodead] covers bases
get rekt Mouse
median tulip
I've had so many people insist this is the case, but I know for sure that edge cases exist that show it does not
If you want to take the chance, you do you; me, I'll keep the macro that I know works as intended every single time
distant crystal
i mean it doesn't hurt anything
but if you're ever running out of macro space keep it in mind
median tulip
I think I've got 70 characters space still on that one
waxen orbit
Your first problem is your UI dawg cus respectfully what the fuck am I looking at
agile pumice
yo he got the catalogued research tracker tho
frosty holly
but if you're ever running out of macro space keep it in mind
If you run out of macro space you get addon for unlimited macro!
shy yoke
Is there any reason why people are taking Heavy Repercussions over Anger Management? (Lv 50 talent)
Its due the reprisal leggo I suppose but its really that worth?
mellow bridge
It's for maximum block uptime when playing reprisal and without tierset
It's not worth for anyone outside the very top end
golden basin
is there a sound effect in the game as satisfying as the "clunk" block sound? Am I just playing prot warr for that?
waxen orbit
What do you think I am named after?
opal pawn
I also love the sound of Spell-reflect going off.
waxen orbit
wSHACK
opal pawn
Prot warrior just has a lot of satisfying sounds all around. It's great.
safe thistle
so far i started the new raid and i feel like it gonna be painful, seems a lot fo fight gonna be cosmic dmg
median tulip
It's just a shame Revenge is so weedy and unsatisfying a noise
opal pawn
I've seen quite a bundle of logs, And most logs are saying that -most- of the damage you take is melee. There's a couple outliers. But I'm not sure, I haven't treid the raid fully yet.
scenic mural
Anyone have a weakaura for whenever a mob your tanking enrages (whether the affix or just a built in enrage)
teal swift
but melees will almost never kill you
That's because bdk needs to be able to face tank them
Which makes them trivial for everyone else lmao
The fight needs to do 2 things:
- Put out physical damage in a way that bdk can survive
- Put out magic damage in a way that prot warrior can survive
teal swift
Basically makes all tanking trivial
urban portal
if blood dk doesnt get one shot by a melee
teal swift
In raid
teal swift
Basically if both ends of the extreme can survive
All tanks can survive
And shit monk will have it easy as fuck lmao
teal swift
If melees Do too much damage
They'll prolly either nerf the damage
Or lower the damage and increase the speed
With proper tank play
They don't want you getting globaled.
Orgazoa nightmare fuel
cobalt grove
I have a funny memory on that boss
We were looking clean to kill him, our pally tank gets down to the bottom pretty quick and without thinking captain America's his ass. Killing like everyone in the raid except myself who was on a dh at the time and already at the bottom.
dark lark
Necrolord Banner Sims
https://tinyurl.com/bannersims
Is this updated for 9.2? Says 9.1 at the top but wasn't sure if the title was forgotten
ocean reef
That's definitely only updated for 9.1 @dark lark
It's made by Max, who isn't playing atm
And you can also see the values in the 5 min sim are akin to SoD sims
(As well as the prot paladin having a note: waiting on T27 profile)
tame jasper
As for upcoming vaults: theoritical question: 1) 278 shield vs 252/265 tier token (of the esrly bosses) - shield to pick? 3) 278 tier tokens outrules it all? @jagged pier @ionic fern @sweet summit
golden basin
Thwump is a great warrior name
waxen orbit
I simply be thwumping
steady karma
👀
Listen, you start posting shit like that, you're gonna start creating expectations
and if I see any death count screenshots after this, I'm gonna have to start banning people!
steady karma
Archi not being very subtle about it
why tf are you in every channel at all hours of the day?
don't you have a hobby or somethin?
ocean reef
I have school that's my hobby
Gotta be up to date with the latest Skyhold questions
urban portal
hes on public transportation
or at school
afaik
either way perfect time to be on discord
urban portal
thats all i know from you
you are either on the bus
or at school
or on the way back
ocean reef
I simply just spend too much time here for no particular reason other than seeing someone with a question I can help them with
And because I half the time don't have anything better to do either
jagged pier
As for upcoming vaults: theoritical question: 1) 278 shield vs 252/265 tier toke...
Token
waxen orbit
We don't speak of that key
tame jasper
ok thx
jagged pier
ok thx
well i mean honestly ither in a few weeks u can start putting tier on pieces anyway
🤷
jagged pier
i mean its also a tone of extra rage
and also a tune of free buffed IPs which will actually stack up
blazing anvil
anyone got a full dps build for prot? (any cov) (1 leggo) and eventually 2 leggo?
jagged pier
literally the same as the defensive build
blazing anvil
anger management would be better than heavy repercussions no?
reprisal has no dps gain?
jagged pier
yes it does
jagged pier
and u should be running AM anyawys
rage free revenge
and as u run BSC in dungeons
its a free 50% buffed revenge
blazing anvil
I was told that seismic reverb was better for dps
jagged pier
in keys for sure, but u loose so much defensive gain, if you are not extremely comfortable there is no point in playing it
blazing anvil
I dont play reprisal in keys
been tanking 15/16s for guild with signet off spec pretty easily
so Im assuming seismic in keys would be better for pure dps
jagged pier
🤷 up to u
waxen orbit
been tanking 15/16s for guild with signet off spec pretty easily
This week? Calling BS
blazing anvil
This week? Calling BS
nop :o
waxen orbit
Good on you for surviving
blazing anvil
thanks man, was fun lol
waxen orbit
I feel like after hitting Streets, Halls feels miles easier in terms of magic damage to handle
blazing anvil
yeah streets was rough
waxen orbit
I thought DPS missing kicks on Dark Bolts hurt at +25 last season
blazing anvil
dratnos route is ez, but actually pulling around people is monka
alpine saddle
waxen orbit
Arthas fanboy noises
ionic fern
Missed kicks
There's no such things as missed kicks. Only bad tanks taking too much damage.
blazing condor
also - sounds like a healer problem
waxen orbit
There's no such things as missed kicks. Only bad tanks taking too much damage.
True kekw
mighty valley
i'm so glad streets is getting nerfed before it switches to fortified, jesus christ
sweet summit
nerfing it again?
jagged pier
are they?
ionic fern
Streets?
blazing condor
fortified?
sweet summit
jesus?
ionic fern
Are you R1 prot yet?
blazing condor
no
jagged pier
jagged pier
me?
ionic fern
Fuck.
jagged pier
no im bad
sweet summit
LOL
ionic fern
No, not you Jakey, you're washed up.
jagged pier
not even top 10 anymore
blazing condor
jagged pier
No, not you Jakey, you're washed up.
true
sweet summit
nope :/
blazing condor
you done with the API @ionic fern ?
blazing condor
then why you typing here then etc etc etc etc
sweet summit
rude
jagged pier
getting the ban hammer rdy for that comment @blazing condor
blazing condor
was just tryna defend erga
sweet summit
cleanest key ever
ionic fern
Did you time it?
jagged pier
sweet summit
right? @restive ice @ocean reef
blazing condor
right? 🔫
jagged pier
sweet summit
tyvm
restive ice
would definitely run again with famous warrior erga double u
sweet summit
blazing condor
ocean reef
no half measures
blazing condor
thanks, mike
jagged pier
i love when i charge explosives and the damage doesnt kill them
ocean reef
Leap into heroic throw into charge
ocean reef
jagged pier
they did time it
ionic fern
You would have timed it BETTER.
ocean reef
jagged pier
nah u got to run signet and HR like the guy from earlier
ionic fern
What?
jagged pier
some one was asking about damage
said he was running signet
and was asking if AM was more damage than HR
so i presume he was running signet and HR
blazing condor
chad
jagged pier
🤷
blazing condor
we're all just sheep playing the same builds
sweet summit
truege
blazing condor
pre cast rav and you just start bladestorming
jagged pier
I wish ravager worked with signet
same
ionic fern
we're all just sheep playing the same builds
I'm not playing the same build.
I'm built different.
blazing condor
ur not playing period
ionic fern
I am.
blazing condor
blazing condor
how do you do it?
ionic fern
By forcing myself to log-on.
jagged pier
😂
ionic fern
ANd Chapter 3.
So i guess i'll do it today.
Actually no..not today.
Today is international women's day.
So happy women's day to all of the women of Skyhold.
blazing condor
strong forum
pre cast rav and you just start bladestorming
Well you'd in this case throw down another ravager
Signet working with Ravager would make bonegrinder actually quite the powerful conduit
Cast avatar, which casts reck, throw down ravager which extends reck, then have a billion rage for outburst, then spam whirlwind, while spamming whirlwind you spend enough rage for another avatar, then maybe proc avatar from ravager later on for another outburst proc
The feedback loop would be insane
blazing condor
ppOverheat
jagged pier
true
blazing condor
Wonder how yogis doing
jagged pier
probably having more fun than we r
strong forum
i'm not reading that
Weak
sweet summit
yea
strong forum
Can't even see the OPness of signet with prot 4p
Smh
Top dmg with this 1 simple hack
sweet summit
ionic fern
Who even wants to be top damage.
You're a tank.
You tank.
You take hits.
You don't do damage.
Smh.
jagged pier
ionic fern
Also, lets be honest here, most people are so bad at the game that you will still beat them as a tank in damage.
Even with the current tuning.
😂
strong forum
That's not satisfactory
jagged pier
just design stuff not to ignore our tool kit
like i can fear undead in pvp
but not in pve
🤔
ionic fern
You know what i want?
Every time you join a key you get the option of choosing who gets interrupts/dispells/soothes etc.
I would just give them all to myself so i can do all the mechanics and actually enjoy m+ as a tank.
sweet summit
purge on ss when
jagged pier
we had that already
blazing condor
Well then the answer to ”when” is ”back then”
solid granite
oh, today's international woman day? yay, i guess
blazing condor
Can i get a whole ”pogchamp” for every woman out there
ocean reef
Pog
blazing condor
Why apologize when thats just as good
keen epoch
So guys, today on NA's great vault. Max ilvl piece from m+ vs normal raid tier set piece. What should we choose? ( In case we get that option )
jagged pier
that depends on a lot of things
for instance i have 1 piece of tier already so if there is one in my vault im like 99% gunna take it
if i didnt i dunno probs take a hc tier piece over a 278 piece
but i wouldnt take a normal tier piece over it
safe thistle
anyway theres not a mechanic that can make m+ piece be tier piece ?
safe thistle
ahhhhh
jagged pier
in time there is
mellow bridge
well
we dont know yet how quickly we actually will be able to create a piece
since it's timegated and we dont know the rate it unlocks at yet (afaik)
safe thistle
seems like a "well see when we get there" thing
wild hemlock
Wonder how yogis doing
❤️
wild hemlock
Every time you join a key you get the option of choosing who gets interrupts/dis...
did you swap to pally
ionic fern
No.
deft hinge
i tried the route-weakaura that was supposed to mark the mobs on the route of the mythic dungeon tool addon. its ofc not working for me, any1 else had luck with it?
makes m+ so much easier then have to learn route in head within the minute u get it inside the m+ with pug group
very similar to automarker, but instead marks npc`s u have marked on m+ dungeon tools
ionic fern
What?