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jagged pier
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POG

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late gunna do more dps in keys than i can again

blazing condor
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Its cus hes blue

oblique garnet
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Started tier as ele shaman>played it on one boss healed rest>got 252 wep on warrior on vault got asked to reroll

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Healed till painsmith*

oblique garnet
west walrus
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Started tier as prot warrior, got asked to switch to BrM, left the guild

jagged pier
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its okay Nowah rated BrM as worse than prot next tier

jagged pier
west walrus
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(it was a toxic guild ^^)

jagged pier
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and i gave up

oblique garnet
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Xd

jagged pier
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KEKW

oblique garnet
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Brm is turbo broken

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Its not even funny

jagged pier
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yer but it doesnt bring anything

oblique garnet
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Atleast we have m+

west walrus
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It's so chill to tank as a BrM

oblique garnet
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It has 5% phys debuff

strong forum
strong forum
jagged pier
sweet summit
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it does big dam

oblique garnet
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True and with paladin dead mw might be the play

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But still

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Brm is good

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Because its brm

strong forum
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Brm is good if you only look at yourself

oblique garnet
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It has good damage and if you die on it idk what to tell you

strong forum
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If you die on any tank its your fault

jagged pier
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honestly with the damage increase and all the free IPs and you likely to run the wall and a lot of bosses

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prot gunna be good

strong forum
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A raid tank doesn't die

ionic fern
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It's fine guys, chill.
We are the Execute so we get brought everywhere.

oblique garnet
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Unless something severely changes prot will have the least representation

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Why bring prot when dps warrior has the same rally

teal swift
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Are you british

west walrus
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I'll be happy to be one of them

strong forum
urban portal
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Apparently dps warriors mediocre?

strong forum
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But you can always bring more tank warriors

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For the same gain

urban portal
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Next tier

strong forum
oblique garnet
urban portal
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At least in raid

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Who TF knows

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Just heard max saying it

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I personally think it's like middle/middle top

oblique garnet
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Max says alot of shit

blazing condor
urban portal
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Max also says prot warrior pretty good

jagged pier
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:max:

strong forum
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Eh

blazing condor
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๐Ÿต ๐Ÿ’‹

strong forum
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I would never trust max

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Or any streamer

jagged pier
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member when max said dont bring prot warrior then did anyway

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i member

oblique garnet
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Guardian simp meta inc

strong forum
sweet summit
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how do i make my tanks roll guardian

strong forum
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I expect to see bdk+pally all the way

sweet summit
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asking for a friend

urban portal
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Brew if not nerfed

strong forum
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Brew has to get nerfed

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It's unreasonably

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OP

oblique garnet
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Also if max is basing his theory with 1 legendary then yeah i can see dps warrior being mediocre

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Because atm its hard carried by shards

strong forum
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The entire rwf is fucked

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No double leggo means everything is different

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And then depends on set rng

oblique garnet
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If echo and limit manage to kill last 3 bosses without 2x legendaries its gonna be straight to farm week 4 latest for any top50 guild

teal swift
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Lmao

strong forum
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That's the other meme

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Indeed

sweet summit
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that's why i hate it

strong forum
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Very dicey tier

teal swift
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Echo vs Liquid

sweet summit
oblique garnet
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Its so bad

strong forum
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If its balanced around having everything, then rwf is gonna be boring

oblique garnet
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I hope they scrap the idea totally

strong forum
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If its possible to be killed without everything, then the tier will be a joke

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There's no winning

urban portal
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Ye

teal swift
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NotMethod vs NotLimit is this rwf

urban portal
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Even worse than 9.1

west walrus
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Necrolord will be good anyway or just with double leggo?

urban portal
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We love castle nathria

oblique garnet
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Yeah and if they do

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Gg tier is bad

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And short

teal swift
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Ignore rwf. Balance it so that by end of tier 10% of players can CE

jagged pier
oblique garnet
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Because the actual skill difference between players in rwf vs top50 isnt that huge

jagged pier
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cause of the regen u get from the wall or rep

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without it necro kinda bad still

blazing condor
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Are they gonna be called liquid limit now

blazing condor
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Sounds kinda sus

strong forum
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Limit is deadge

teal swift
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I've seen the same guilds in top 5 forever

ionic fern
jagged pier
oblique garnet
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^

teal swift
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Ah ok

jagged pier
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they just do normal raiding but still kill it stupidly fast

oblique garnet
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The difference comes from raid hours and split prep etc

teal swift
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If I was going to raid more than 6-9 hours a week

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I'd better fucking be ce first 8-10 weeks

urban portal
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Nah most top 50 pull overtime

teal swift
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I want fucking hall of fame

urban portal
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A lot of them hide logs

teal swift
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If I'ma be raiding 20-50 hours a week

ocean reef
urban portal
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My friend just got recruited into a Hof guild and the hidden logs are nasty

blazing condor
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Nothing like playing 10 hours a week and getting to SLG after 8 months

strong forum
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Only a handful of guilds raid more than 10hrs a week

ocean reef
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Making CE accessible to a vast majority of people removes any sort of achievement you'd get from having CE in the first place

oblique garnet
teal swift
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It's usually like 6, 9, 8, 10, or 12.

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Seldomlre than that

blazing condor
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Ye i think we did 7 hours in total akshully

oblique garnet
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Could be 7 days a week could be 5 only time will tell

teal swift
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2x3, 3x3, 4x2, 4x2.5, 4x3, and 5x2

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Are the most common I see

strong forum
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Like, it's really only method, liquid, echo, bdgg and pieces that raid every day right?

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Aversion too I guess

teal swift
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In mop I did 6 days 3 hours a night, we barely got AOTC in SoO

jagged pier
teal swift
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God we were all miseray bad.

jagged pier
oblique garnet
teal swift
oblique garnet
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Just not 12 hours a day 7 days

teal swift
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I wasn't good either.

blazing condor
jagged pier
teal swift
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We raided 18+ hours a week

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Optional 1h extension

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We raided every day but Sunday

oblique garnet
ocean reef
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If you exclude boosts, then achieving CE on your own should be because you're good, not because the raid got tuned to be hella easy and accessible

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CE is for those that want a challenge, not a free "look-I-did-it" trophy

jagged pier
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tbf i wouldnt mind them making raids easier just then no PTR and no dungeon journal

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it opens raiding for more players

blazing condor
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Ptr kinda dumb

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I mean no

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Ofc not

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But still

ocean reef
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I don't think that would make much of a difference

jagged pier
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but then again thoughs players would go into raiding like they dont run m+

ocean reef
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People will still just use guides

teal swift
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I don't think romanticizing the idea of CE, and gatekeeping it is the play here.

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It's just mythic raiding. The more people that get to experience all the fights the better.

strong forum
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CE already gets glorified

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When it really has no value

teal swift
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The idea, that more people achieving something cheapens your own accomplishment. All that matters is the date. Look at KSM.

ocean reef
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I'm not trying to gatekeep CE

urban portal
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Not this tier

teal swift
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Anyone can KSM late season.

urban portal
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This tier mythic is heroic tuned higher

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Especially after nerfs

teal swift
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I'd like to see it be accessible, over the 6 month tier, just make it more and more accessible.

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No reason you shouldn't.

ocean reef
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If Mythic remains the difficulty it is, it should only encourage people to actually get better at the game to get CE

teal swift
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It doesn't.

urban portal
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In fact mythic is just heroic that you need to stop dam on

teal swift
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The stats show it doesn't

ocean reef
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Then frankly

blazing condor
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I mean mythic raiding in general is way more restrictive than HC its not just the difficulty. You cant cross-realm for a long time and you NEED 20 players

ocean reef
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If you want CE, play like you want it

blazing condor
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Most people dont have a good way to find 20 people willing to consistently raid

teal swift
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It's not about deserving it. It's about making the content accessible to more people over time. Why does it impact you, if your farm raids, that we all bitch about 4 months in, get easier?

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You still get the challenge and the glory for having cleared it early

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And more people get access to later bosses

ocean reef
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I've cleared it consistently 3-4+ months into the tier

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I'm not a HoF raider

teal swift
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How much do you really need to be validated by an achievement?

ocean reef
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I'm not validated by my CE lol

teal swift
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You're clearing it post nerf. Why not nerf it more?

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Why not continue to make it more and more accessible until the next tier

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Like how does it hurt you, with more players having it?

ocean reef
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Sure make it more accessible through the tier

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But designing the tier from the beginning to be easier

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Is not the way to do it

teal swift
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I'd like to see mythic raid tuned insanely hard at the start

blazing condor
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I mean wasnt that what they used to do

teal swift
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And then progressively get easier.

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Yes.

blazing condor
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ICC, DS and SOO

teal swift
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I loved how ICC buff handled it

blazing condor
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You had the buffs

honest plinth
west walrus
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It's already getting more accessible through tier as we get more and more gear

teal swift
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But yeah, banezi and I can 100% agree

ocean reef
teal swift
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Make mythic hard

ocean reef
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Not everyone likes raiding but loves m+

teal swift
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Better to over tune

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And make it insane

honest plinth
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You need to find a guild you want to play with

teal swift
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Than undertuned

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If you make your raid easy it's fucked

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At least you can balance down, not up.

oblique garnet
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I dont think anyone is arguing otherwise

teal swift
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Anyways I got 5/10m

west walrus
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Blizzard chose to soft nerf it by the gear (shards, double leggo,...)

teal swift
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I got some nice parses am 99/94/94/77/98

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I'm okay with that.

west walrus
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While not a true nerf, this is a way to make it more accessible

teal swift
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The 77 sucks, both tanks were dead. Fluke kill.

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I'm glad to be mythic raiding

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Still think painsmith should've been 9th boss

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Not fucking ,6th

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Imagine if guardian was 6, kt 7, fate 8, painsmith 9, sylv 10

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Difficulty curve would've been so much better

oblique garnet
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Well painsmith was the only properly tuned boss in this tier

teal swift
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First 3 were tuned fine

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First 3 bosses are supposed to be extremely accessible

honest plinth
urban portal
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Eye pug terror

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Not as powerful as huntsman tho

teal swift
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But yeah, honestly. I'm a mediocre player

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I'd like to CE. But I'm happy just killing 5/10m

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What I'm unhappy with is someone telling me to use shackle and drw defensively, so I stop wasting healer externals by calling for them.

ocean reef
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I understand where people who haven't gotten CE's or struggle getting it, comes from

teal swift
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I just want CE. I want that feeling.

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But I know if I want it and go for it

strong forum
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My feeling was - "eh"

teal swift
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I have to make sacrifices I don't want to make

strong forum
ocean reef
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My first CE I was kinda excited for

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But any after that it was just me being relieved from killing the bosses

honest plinth
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Ye you jusr need to find better guild if you are good

ocean reef
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And not getting the CE

strong forum
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I was just happy that I won't have to full clear the raid anymore

oblique garnet
teal swift
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I literally got an invitation to a CE guild couple weeks ago.

ocean reef
teal swift
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I'm not willing to leave my guild.

oblique garnet
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Or well wasnt CE back then

honest plinth
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So i dont get your point

teal swift
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I have the skill.

strong forum
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Back when I enjoyed raiding achievements didn't exist

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:boomer:

teal swift
wicked whale
strong forum
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CE is more about guild than about your personal skill

teal swift
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@wicked whale ily

honest plinth
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So there is no reason to talk about Ce :)

strong forum
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Or well, raiding is

oblique garnet
teal swift
strong forum
oblique garnet
honest plinth
sweet summit
strong forum
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:uno:

teal swift
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@strong forum since you're bere

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I'm just gonna pretend this person doesn't exist

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Thanks for restraining me.

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I appreciate you. Every time I see your cloud with glasses

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I think, breathe, don't fight

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Oh how times change

strong forum
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I meaaaan its not a fight, just varying opinions

teal swift
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Can you beleieve we've been friends for almost 3 months already?

wicked whale
sweet summit
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but u called it fun

dawn canyon
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Id argue whatever is your first last Boss you kill youll be looking back positively

oblique garnet
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Cringe LoS mechanics

wicked whale
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Azshara was fun you copers

teal swift
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Also azshara was hot as fuck

wicked whale
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Not an Argument i wouldve brought up but sure

oblique garnet
blazing condor
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Azshara kinda ass

teal swift
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I got AOTC that tier

ocean reef
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Remove first phase

teal swift
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Barely touched otherwise LOL

ocean reef
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And it was pog

wicked whale
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I just remember being one of three warriors and being the only one not having charged a hulk

blazing condor
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EP wasnt that fun honestly

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First three bosses were literally non-existant

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Ashvane got trivialised

teal swift
blazing condor
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Orgo was kinda fun

teal swift
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Really fun

dawn canyon
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Coral

blazing condor
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Council was fine

teal swift
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I liked zaqul

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As well

dawn canyon
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Zack shoulders i still want

teal swift
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Minus that prog being when my ex left me

dawn canyon
teal swift
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It was bas

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Her family called a hostage situation in

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Mid raid

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So I basically got swatted

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And had no idea what was happening

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I didn't even know anything was wrong in the relationship lmfao

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It was all fine ofc, but God damn

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Fucking terrible night

blazing condor
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Thats not za cool

teal swift
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๐Ÿคฃ

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I'm over it

jade socket
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@potent zephyr

teal swift
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@jade socket hi vil

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Big hugs and kisses for u friend

ocean reef
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Wonka has been called

teal swift
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Ik I overshare

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I just try to be open about my incredibly shit life.

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Ik you guys prolly don't care, but it's therapeutic to talk about ^^

ocean reef
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Oversharing happens but would be best to be in DMs

teal swift
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/Shrug

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U prolly not wrong it's ok tho!

slim pier
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hello my tank fellows

ionic fern
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Hello another tank.

teal swift
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Hi box!

jagged pier
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hello

dawn canyon
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Better to talk about it than let it rot you away from the insides

strong forum
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I prefer rotting okayge deadge

slim pier
teal swift
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@jagged pier ๐Ÿซ‚

slim pier
strong forum
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Box don't fit

jagged pier
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๐Ÿ‘‹

strong forum
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Too smol

ionic fern
slim pier
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damn

dawn canyon
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Dbts intervene makes him an honorary tank

ionic fern
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We are just here because we like complaining about DPS'ers/healers being bad.

slim pier
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that's true

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i do dbts intervene

honest plinth
jagged pier
slim pier
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sometimes intervene the tank by accident and die

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does that count

dawn canyon
strong forum
slim pier
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the same exact place too

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before i ever saw that clip

teal swift
dawn canyon
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THE TANK IS A FUCKING GOBLIN

teal swift
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You're good people

dawn canyon
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DUDE

honest plinth
strong forum
teal swift
slim pier
ionic fern
slim pier
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some of them at least

strong forum
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Fuck people

jagged pier
ionic fern
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We play tanks so we could stand in shit and continue DPS'ing.

blazing condor
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๐Ÿ˜ณ

ionic fern
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That's how hard we want to pad DPS.

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We are willing to play tanks.

slim pier
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we can finally dps next tier properly

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with the set bonus

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no need to play fury or arms

strong forum
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Have better execute than those 2 anyway

jagged pier
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am i the only player that actually finds dps'ing boring like i did it for 1 tier can that was enough

slim pier
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yes

blazing condor
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its omega bedge

strong forum
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I played dps for half a tier in uldir

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And every raid I begged to tank

slim pier
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you know what's also, bedge swapping every 4 stacks

strong forum
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Cuz im much better anyway

jagged pier
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like i legit volunteered to do the all the machanics cause i was bored

ionic fern
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Raid tanking is more boring than raid DPS'ing tho.

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

dawn canyon
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Yes

slim pier
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yeah raid tanking is boring as fuck

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4 stacks

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taunt

dawn canyon
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Except pala because pala is basically dps

strong forum
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Only after 2 tanks quit and downing zul I got to tank

slim pier
strong forum
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Dpsing in raid is so braindead

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It's too simple

jagged pier
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i dunno i prefer tanking in raid ๐Ÿคท

dawn canyon
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I dont mind bedge content with the guild

jagged pier
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especially now dont ever need to stop when stop dps is called

dawn canyon
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They are my Entertainment

slim pier
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is the set bonus big for dps?

blazing condor
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doesnt matter how simple it is people will still find a way to wipe you

jagged pier
strong forum
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Dpsing in raid is just do 1 mechanic every 3 moons

slim pier
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Outburst, causing your next Shield Slam or Thunder Clap to be 200% more effective and grant Ignore Pain.

ionic fern
slim pier
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im assuming shield slam for st

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and TC for aoe?

jagged pier
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u dont tc

strong forum
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Tanking you have alot of min maxing to do and actual stuff to look out for

jagged pier
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200% of 0 is still 0

dawn canyon
strong forum
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Especially if you also make callouts

slim pier
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but it's not 0

jagged pier
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it is

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compared to SS

slim pier
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in aoe tho

jagged pier
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even in aoe

strong forum
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You need like 10 targets

jagged pier
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TC is a fixed amount

slim pier
strong forum
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Lmao

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For TC to beat SS

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Cuz SS gets you 2 revenges

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TC gives you 0.7 revenge

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That's why you never TC

dawn canyon
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T in tc stands for trash

strong forum
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For every empowered TC you did, you wasted 2 revenges

jagged pier
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should empower revenge

strong forum
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Empowered seismic revenge

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:lickge:

blazing condor
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blizz probably don't know we use revenge

jagged pier
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:kreygasm

teal swift
honest plinth
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Revenge no rage cost next tier

teal swift
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I really care about people.

strong forum
teal swift
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My actions have shown how loyal, and how much I care about the people I care about

strong forum
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IP is already at 17cpm

slim pier
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remember bfa tc

blazing condor
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i didnt really like the TC meta in bfa tbh

honest plinth
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I was young my tc was strong

blazing condor
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as a principle

dawn canyon
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But also dont forget to care for yourself

teal swift
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I care about some people***

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If you cross me

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I generally fucking hate you and will burn you at the stake.

dawn canyon
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We dont talk about the spit incident bedge

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Bad memory

teal swift
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Show me respect for 3 steps, I'll show you respect for 10. You burn me once. I'll set your life on fire.

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Phill, you've been respectful and sweet, and I've only ever responded to you in kind.

honest plinth
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We need a DC movie with you ๐Ÿ˜…

ionic fern
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What on earth is going on.

blazing condor
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its too early for this

dawn canyon
teal swift
dawn canyon
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I think me never playing League helped

teal swift
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I'm very... @strong forum might call it... Energetic, passionate, and high amplitude

dawn canyon
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I think that describes you pretty well

teal swift
ionic fern
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You're very Ping happy aren't you?

slim pier
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I'm joking

blazing condor
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i just shitpost tbh

slim pier
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me too

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shitposting is the best

dawn canyon
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Shitpost respectfully bedge

slim pier
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yes of course

dawn canyon
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And make a typo in every single fucking message

teal swift
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I love tanking. I'm very passionate about it.

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I have no drive to DPS or heal

slim pier
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does BOOBA respectfully actually work

teal swift
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I wanna tank, and even on farm I wanna inlrove

slim pier
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reminded me of twitch chat

sweet summit
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?

teal swift
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And get better and better

teal swift
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Big hugs

slim pier
teal swift
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Improvw

dawn canyon
ionic fern
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Only thing i cared about during Farm when i still tanked was padding DPS and parsing.

teal swift
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Improve, with big thumbs

blazing condor
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parses is what makes raid tanking acceptable

slim pier
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parses this tier are dog

blazing condor
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which is why its justifiable to pad

slim pier
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so many externals

teal swift
dawn canyon
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@slim pier Nice cock, respectfully
It's kinda weird, no?

teal swift
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I always wanna push my dps as high as I can, I also wanna kill shit so I try not to pad.

blazing condor
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imagine finally getting a prog-boss but on a bad attempt

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yikes

slim pier
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thanks tho

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lmao

blazing condor
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i aint showing off that 70 parse

slim pier
dawn canyon
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I like the shape peepoBlush

ionic fern
teal swift
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Both tanks were dead

slim pier
teal swift
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Yet.

blazing condor
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just press buttons seanbee

teal swift
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I make a lot of rotational mistakes

slim pier
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i never got a 100 parse in mythic

teal swift
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Like overuse of marrowrend.

slim pier
teal swift
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Also missing a 259 jaithys

jagged pier
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100 parses are cheesing

teal swift
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And a second 252 trinket.

dawn canyon
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Yuzu do you watch lepan?

teal swift
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I don't watch anyone

dawn canyon
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He's a cool bdk

blazing condor
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99 parse is respectable

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100 is just eh

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cool but probably cheese

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thats why i dont have any

sweet summit
dawn canyon
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Also lepans BDK is fully bis since 3 months deadge

teal swift
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@blazing condor I'm honestly happy with 75+

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Very happy with 90+

blazing condor
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each one to their own peepoHappy

dawn canyon
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Purple is pogga

teal swift
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And orange and above are really nice.

ionic fern
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I gave up parsing when Corruption came out cause it was just..RNG luck at that point.

blazing condor
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not rng anymore

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unless you run UH

ionic fern
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Jeah, now it's just "who getrs the most externals".

teal swift
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My issue with parsing is ilvl parses are fucking dumb and meaninglesa

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And I don't ce

ionic fern
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Like

teal swift
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So I'm not gonna get that jailer 2h

ionic fern
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Damn my TD never proccing on adds on Za'qul.

slim pier
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you're dog

ionic fern
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Jeah,m cause my TD never procced on it.

blazing condor
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but there were no corruption in 8.2

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๐Ÿค”

slim pier
slim pier
#

Never??

blazing condor
#

did yall prog EP in 8.3?

teal swift
#

@ionic fern like, do you know why I care about ce?

slim pier
#

I think so

teal swift
#

I want the fucking last boss loot

slim pier
teal swift
#

That's insanely OP

dawn canyon
#

Jetis peepoBlush

teal swift
#

So I can have a reasonable change to get sick parsea

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Instead

#

I get to use heroic welfare gear

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And do my best to get full 95+

dawn canyon
#

For BDK is jetis 246>252 wep?

blazing condor
#

๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

#

ask bdk disc

dawn canyon
#

Yuzu do you know

honest plinth
blazing condor
#

objection!

teal swift
#

In m+ no

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Bdk damage is so shit single target

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You just want as many raw damage things possible

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It's why I use phial and fucking torture rack

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Cause they sim insane

dawn canyon
#

I have a 230 dk with no leggo should i play some BDK keys garms

teal swift
#

239 rack outsims most shit in raid for me

slim pier
teal swift
#

Blood shards existed

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LOL

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Look at this fucking breakdown

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Our ghoul autos do giga damage

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LOL

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50% uptime

slim pier
teal swift
#

But yeah jaithys proc adding like 500 dps

slim pier
teal swift
#

Soulrender damage breakdown

slim pier
#

Blood boil looks so cool

dawn canyon
#

Is there no better dam option than super strain?

teal swift
#

Nope

slim pier
#

there isn't yeah

teal swift
#

Not for aoe or st

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LOL

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Even next tier we're prolly keeping super strain

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While all the dks are like POG LOoK at our tier seeet

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And I'm like ExcitedBlushette

slim pier
#

is the tier set good

teal swift
#

Hard to replace super strain

#

It's decent ye

slim pier
#

what it do ๐Ÿค”

teal swift
#

Directly correlates with parry and drw

#

Look it up I don't remember

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I will be using super strain at least until 4/4 tier set

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Then see how it's doing

blazing condor
#

skyhold turned into dead warrior chat sadge

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worst timeline

slim pier
#

fuck lmao

teal swift
#

LOP

slim pier
#

When you take damage, you have a chance equal to 100% of your Parry chance to lash out, Heart Striking your attacker. Dancing Rune Weapon now summons 2 Rune Weapons.

teal swift
teal swift
#

And then crw gives more drw

slim pier
#

imagine having so many rune weapons hanging around

teal swift
#

The ICD is like 3s

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On the heartstrikes

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Lol

slim pier
#

tat

#

that's pretty good still

teal swift
#

Yep

#

But fr, I'ma use superstrain

slim pier
#

does it work in D& D

teal swift
#

Until I get some tier gear

#

Idk I barely tratedt

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Tested

#

And it's still broken

#

And not functioning

#

Aooo

slim pier
#

F

blazing condor
#

so will m+ taz be pogging or nah

jagged pier
#

it probs wont be pogging

#

losts of casts

#

lots of group coordination

strong forum
#

It's beyond overtuned rn so it's very hard to tell

jagged pier
#

coming out next month apprently yep

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KEKW

strong forum
#

But the trinkets, ring and neck will be of use

jagged pier
#

things still broken as well

strong forum
#

1 month is alot of time (for a normal company)

jagged pier
#

true

strong forum
#

Last 3 bosses are gonna be shit out of whack tho

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But will see

jagged pier
#

๐Ÿคท

#

whole raid could be

#

we dont know what they are gunna be tuning around

sweet summit
#

tune it around dn

jagged pier
#

like look at guardian that wasnt tuned around everyone having dom sockets

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personally i hope double leggo tuning because if its not they raids gunna get pummeled into the ground like nya'lotha was

blazing condor
#

if they smart theyll tune it around 2x leggos

ocean reef
blazing condor
#

joe mama

ocean reef
#

djoe nmama

jagged pier
#

๐Ÿค”

sweet summit
#

d'youre n'verycool

ocean reef
#

Back at you ErgaW

sweet summit
teal swift
#

Like, not broken, but like doesn't actuslly do what. It's supposed to

gaunt dawn
#

think its next build

#

both dk/pal

teal swift
#

Gn friends

dawn canyon
#

Gn

teal swift
#

I can't sleep

ionic fern
#

Same.

#

Mostly because it's 3 PM and i'm at work tho.

strong forum
#

I could sleep rn

sweet summit
jagged pier
#

sir its 2pm

#

and i could sleep

strong forum
#

All I need is no consequences of my actions and a bed

#

And I would sleep RIGHT NOW

ionic fern
#

I can't sleep during the day. If i do..i won't be able to sleep at night and then i will be grumpy the next day due to no sleep.

strong forum
#

I can sleep at any time of day

#

Built different

jagged pier
#

KEKW

ionic fern
#

I bet it's only a few years difference.

jagged pier
ionic fern
#

Now you know what awaits you once you reach my age.

jagged pier
#

but Nomes 2 days older than me

#

hes still ๐Ÿ‘ด

ionic fern
#

True.

blazing condor
ionic fern
#

So it's actually..Erga->Jakey->Nome?

jagged pier
ionic fern
#

I wonder if Sense is older than me.

#

๐Ÿค”

jagged pier
#

nah sense was playing classic and kicking names as a 5 year old

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C:

ionic fern
#

Probably true.
Protection Warrior diddn't even exist until Sense logged in, pressed Create new Character and a new class was born.

jagged pier
#

๐Ÿ™

teal swift
#

Almost 6 am

#

Here t.t

strong forum
#

Then yes

teal swift
#

I'm 30

#

Where do I fit

strong forum
#

In the graveyard

blazing condor
#

damn

strong forum
#

๐Ÿง“

blazing condor
#

im baby tho

ionic fern
strong forum
#

Anything older than me is too old

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Anything younger than me is zoomer

#

๐Ÿ™

ionic fern
blazing condor
#

:wicked:

sweet summit
#

true

strong forum
#

That is the rule

sweet summit
#

:wicked_

ionic fern
#

Damn zoomers can't even type.

blazing condor
#

well, obviously

sweet summit
#

;;OKAY

blazing condor
#

we haven't had the millions of hours that you guys have

#

the literal billions of hours you have sat by your personal computer

#

typing on the key-board

strong forum
#

Phoneposter here ama

blazing condor
#

welcome to the wicked club

strong forum
#

Yeah sit down, 2days younger bebi

ocean reef
#

I always saw myself as a boomer

strong forum
#

How old

ocean reef
#

24 in 4 months

blazing condor
#

ye u are a boomer

strong forum
#

Ye thats defo zoomer

ocean reef
ionic fern
blazing condor
#

link test

blazing condor
#

mwahi

#

lemme try

ionic fern
ocean reef
#

Why does my body feel like its deteriorating then

strong forum
#

Youre eating like shit and not doing any physical activities

ocean reef
#

And I can't even sit straight without I feel like it's scoliosis kicking in

#

Not wrong on both accounts

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Been too busy playing MH to take care of myself recently

teal swift
blazing condor
ionic fern
#

Dman zoomers

blazing condor
#

thanks 2 years studying from home

#

i swear i was like 100 ish before

sweet summit
#

np

ocean reef
#

Dman

ionic fern
#

Always on their computers.

blazing condor
#

its my life ๐Ÿ™‚

teal swift
#

@blazing condor do mobile typing test

#

I wonder how fast you can type on mobile lmao

ocean reef
#

Phone typing is demonic

teal swift
#

Big thumbs

ocean reef
#

Auto correct both saving and killing my vibe

jagged pier
blazing condor
#

im only better cus i don't have the english keyboard layout

#

scandi-one just trumps it

sick sentinel
#

You think getting old and being a boomer fuck who sucks ass sat games won't ever hapeen

#

Then it does

ocean reef
#

I'm Danish but I use Ansi layout

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Not iso

sweet summit
ocean reef
#

Gotten better at typing on my NA keyboard

sick sentinel
#

There is like zero difference between ansi and iso besides one has extra large pepga enter/return button

#

Far as I can tell

ocean reef
#

For typing it makes a big difference

#

But ya that's more or less the difference

blazing condor
teal swift
#

Not bad

sick sentinel
#

And for one like having the slim line return and access to \ button think it is

#

I'm on tablet can't see mine so it's fuckj g with my head looking at tablet lsyoht

blazing condor
#

i don't think i could ever not use my current lay out

#

meaning if i were to move somewhere else or whatever i'd have to buy a scandi one

#

which is obviously superior but yaknow its more of a hassle

ocean reef
#

I got both an Ansi and iso keyboard

#

Prefer the Ansi but can type sorta same speed on both

#

Of course if we speak actual input layout then I'd be fucked if it wasn't Danish

sick sentinel
#

Scandi keyboards are fucking omegalul

#

I'm sorry, ansi or reeeeee gtfo

blazing condor
#

maybe you should try a scandi keyboard and see how it feels

#

maybe they have the right keybinds

ocean reef
#

My brain if I had to figure out the different inputs for /;:*^ etc

#

Itd turn off

sick sentinel
#

Model m is a good keyboard too

#

Actual mechanical switches

blazing condor
#

i've never liked mechanical keyboards tbh

#

don't have one now either

#

works fine enough

ocean reef
#

Rubber dome switches feel awkward asf to type on

#

Compared to mechanical switches

#

For me

sick sentinel
#

Membrane just are worse objectively

#

You only ever use membrane to give to grandpa's pc

blazing condor
#

they are worse but its like such a small difference

#

who cares

sick sentinel
#

So he can type to his buddy about the hockey game over a 3 hour period

ocean reef
#

Ya keyboards really are just the feel in the end

blazing condor
#

maybe the grandpa is a gamer like me with 120+ wpm

ocean reef
#

The input latency is so unnoticeable

blazing condor
#

won't even take 3 minutes

ocean reef
#

That it won't make a difference

blazing condor
#

the only times ive ever felt like i would've benefited from faster latency and response in my presses have been in very frantic FPS games

#

with ability buttons

#

wow is such a fucking boomer game you can be at the top with a ball mouse and no headset

ocean reef
#

Even then your standard keyboard already has a good enough input speed that it won't make a diff

#

Like corsairs newest keyboards have some mind numbing 10k input speed

#

Forgot what they call the metric

sick sentinel
#

It's like, we got all these fucking idiots who buy fast cars and guns and then you can never use them or never go ham with them

#

It's like what's the point buying a steak that's 200$ instead of normal 20$ steak, or a Ferrari so you can drive under 60mph at all ti,especially or get arrested

ocean reef
#

You can under controlled environments

#

Just because it can go 300 mph doesn't mean you should go that fast

#

If you wanna drive fast, move to Germany and drive on the Autobahn

blazing condor
ocean reef
#

I got a few 350-400 euro keyboards, but they cost that much because of their quality and customizability

#

I definitely don't expect anyone to go out and spend that much on them

sick sentinel
#

Well you can measure its effectiveness with science and it's not a reagent or consumable

#

So if it has value it becomes an investment

#

I'm sure loads of the people in this video not from Germany or ever been on this track, so I get what you mean

ionic fern
#

You seriously have to get this "lets post random videos in #protection " under control Yogi.
Post them in #off-topic if you want to.

sick sentinel
#

Fine, whatever

fading dirge
#

Not sure if @ Jakey is allowed. Appreciate the feedback. Ran some 20s last night with AM instead of HR. My block was still over 75% so need more reprisal practice. But a huge increase in trinkets, SW, LS, and demo. Plus my wasted rage went down from 2-3k to less then 500โ€ฆโ€ฆpushing them buttons lol

ionic fern
#

Je, you can ping @jagged pier as much as you want.

ocean reef
blazing condor
#

@jagged pier

ionic fern
ocean reef
#

Always poggies seeing someone get advice and improve

ionic fern
jagged pier
ocean reef
fading dirge
#

I had to pay a lot more attention to how to maximize my shield block up time. But I found it had me using my defensives a lot more. A couple of weeks and I imagine it will become less stress as well

jagged pier
#

it will do

sick sentinel
#

i'll keep it short but i went to do DOS 13 last night, first pull tons of kiting despite hunter and rogue, nobody died 2nd pull i charged raptor didn't clap trying to get interupt guy wipe

#

kill LT, go to pull red boy, taunted it did a heroic throw lost aggro temporarily so it goes chasing someone, out of range for jar now

#

someone informs me druid DC, i just instantly quit after like 5 seconds of waiting

#

i just straight up legitimately no regrets alt f4'd cuz 2 wipes on 4 pulls and healer is DC

ionic fern
#

1)How does the "tons of kiting" have anything to do with "hunter and rogue"?
2)2nd pull Sounds like your fault since you diddn't grab aggro properly
3)Red boy sounds like your fault since you diddn't grab aggro properly.

fading dirge
#

Why F4? Just tell the group your leaving if your gonna leave.

blazing condor
ionic fern
#

The big skelly just looks at you weirdly on a +13.

blazing condor
#

odd looking duck that one

sick sentinel
#

it's enrage week and they brought up sorry i didn't dispell it

strong forum
#

|| @jagged pier get pinged idiot ||

blazing condor
#

||made u look lol||

ionic fern
#

Oh, Raging/explosive

#

ANother free week

#

What is this

#

2 in a row.

#

Wish i did m+.

blazing condor
#

same tbh

sick sentinel
#

but yeah, i dunno why, for some reason i wanted to charge the raptor first because i probably wanted to clap instantly but the guy does his spell second you engage combat

#

so you have to charge interupt him

jagged pier
jagged pier
blazing condor
#

then move in and interrupt next cast

ionic fern
#

๐Ÿ‘€

jagged pier
fading dirge
#

Yeah I usually charge raptors, us free revenge and then clap as I get in range of caster group

sick sentinel
#

i honestly felt like last week was way more free

#

last week was more or less a breeze for me

#

i actually timed shit

blazing condor
#

ksm this week?

#

pog

ionic fern
sick sentinel
#

i doubt it

#

have been having doubts about wow grow on me

ionic fern
sick sentinel
#

not even another game i'm interested in, just not fucking wow it seems like at times

ionic fern
#

I feel like we already had this discussion where you went on a rampage about how much you don't like WoW and we told you not to play it then since what's the point..

teal swift
#

Unless you're a warrior ofc

#

Then u just block through it lmao

blazing condor
#

๐Ÿ˜Ž

teal swift
#

My bdk can get slapped

#

But my lrot paladin is the one who hates it most

ionic fern
#

Just block it.

teal swift
#

Int the key until your get lucky with blocks

sick sentinel
#

i might just drop this key to a 10 and run it as completion

#

nothing to lose

blazing condor
#

ilvl in vault

#

or idk where the breakpoints go

ionic fern
#

At this point i'm just taking w/e transmog i still don't have from vault.

sick sentinel
#

you get a 246 for doing a 12 or 13 i think

blazing condor
#

vault is omega deadge rn

sick sentinel
#

all this stupid shit that should never have gone wrong to begin with and then somehow it does

blazing condor
#

making mistakes is part of the game and everyone here does it. The main issue seems to be that you keep making the same mistakes over and over and not really progressing

ionic fern
#

^

sullen valve
#

<3

teal swift
#

yuzu hope you're well

sick sentinel
#

i do wish i had better news to report to you guys

#

i almost had KSM fairly early on season 1 and stopped trying until like last week of it, couldn't do it then

teal swift
#

Ksm s1 was muuuuch harder

#

Have you considered playing an easier tank?

#

Bear druid in 15-20 keys Is very very easy

sick sentinel
#

i feel like i'd be going deeper into the maze at that point

#

where i create a second tank

#

or a healer

teal swift
#

I'm acguslly not sure why you cznt so ksm

#

Like, when you pug the group

#

Are you waiting for like 2200+ players?

#

Are you doing the route correctly?

sick sentinel
#

i'd upload and link to a video of a 13 spires i did last week, but then i'd get reprimanded for "self promotion"

ionic fern
#

It's always the same issues that you're not fixing.
It really is repetitive at this point as we've gone over multiple videos / logs
1)Poor class knowledge
2)Wasted rage
3)Low SB up-time
4)Bad positioning
5)Bad routes/pulls
And we've given you feedback regarding how to fix all of these multiple times.

teal swift
#

I kinda just charge and mash revenge, shieldslam, tclap, and shield block

#

Like at 15, ik not memeing you kinda just keep up shield block and spam revenge

#

And just route decently

ionic fern
#

On a +15 you just press W and complete the dungeon on time as long as people are more or less decent.

teal swift
#

Bring 2200+ players looking for weekly kegs who can. Pump like 10-12k dps

ionic fern
#

HAHAHAHA

#

2.2k 10-12k DPS

#

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

#

Nice one

blazing condor
#

Good one

teal swift
#

Idk I'm just sharing my experience

#

Lmao

#

15s are giga free

ionic fern
#

The people i get in my groups at 2.2-2.4k are doing around as much overall as me on my prot warrior.

#

The "good" ones are like barely 10k.

teal swift
#

My bdk pulls 6.7k

#

My friend alice hits like 14-15k

jagged pier
#

i do more damage with reprisal then most 2.3k dpsers i come across

strong forum
#

From what I've seen, the average pug does 7k dps

ionic fern
#

^

teal swift
#

Holding threat off her blows

strong forum
#

But that's good enough for 20s

#

For some reason

teal swift
#

Okay fair

#

I don't even know how to play arms

ionic fern
#

DPS isn't the issue jeah..people just fall over to mechanics that kill them. ๐Ÿ˜‚

teal swift
#

I was just mashing op Ms

blazing condor
#

Gz now u can play arms lol

sick sentinel
#

poor class knowledge is i'm not syncing up CDs to use with eachother

#

i think

teal swift
#

Honestly, don't think

#

Just find a route

#

Fill the key

#

And pull it

#

Like at 15 and below it's really hard to int the key

strong forum
#

Like yogi I've uploaded vids of my 5 tank runs

#

And they're omega scuffed

#

But we easily +2 keys

teal swift
#

I promise, keys are much easier than they feel. Just be confident don't over think, follow your route.

#

And just wing it. I've timed keys pretty well like tbat

#

Also, just start trying to pug jbto like 16-17 keys

#

For faster io

#

Dm them be like yoooo I'm solid

#

And try not to int the key

sick sentinel
#

i think the problem is that i underthink and disregard major threats until they absolutely have to be dealt with

teal swift
#

You'll get ksm quixkly

#

Uhhh no

sick sentinel
#

and then so its just im doing a boss and WTF druid is dead

teal swift
#

Nothing in a 15 is. Threat

jagged pier
#

well it is if your 5 prots

teal swift
#

I'm convinced you coukd ksm without a tank In the group.

jagged pier
#

u can barely heal

teal swift
#

Have a havoc tsnk your keys or something

#

But really, stop worrying so much

#

Pull pack by pack

#

Hold threat

#

Don't die