protection

[jagged pier]

BV in raid

BSC in m+

[true bridge]

sweet

[jagged pier]

and ITF in raid

rav in M+

[true bridge]

so its only bsc and itf that changes for raid?

since im not progging hard in raids i wont need to min max

[sick sentinel]

some people might play ITF m+ for the haste and you can do it but its really cancer

[blazing condor]

Ravager is mega value in m+

[jagged pier]

u still want booming voice and itf in raid regardless of what your doing

[true bridge]

okok

so to recap, right now im running 3-1-1-1-2-3-1 for m+ and 3-1-2-1-2-1-1 for raid is taht decent enough for like max doing 10/10 hc and mby just mby 3/10 mythic

[jagged pier]

i mean i take bounding stride in all content but u can take cracking thunder if u want in m+

[true bridge]

ok thank you appreciate all the help 😄

[jagged pier]

np

[sick sentinel]

this was first wipe we had, thought it was add that ran to other adds turned out someone got caught in frontal knock

[blazing condor]

yeah i mean you shouldnt face him that way

dps couldve moved tho ofc

but you're not really minimizing risk

by facing him back towards mobs and towards the group

[sick sentinel]

i thought it was better angled out of the group too

thought it was on an \ angle

[blazing condor]

should've kept him to where you initially held him

up the stairs

[sick sentinel]

the other thing i fucked up on was and ickus, we killed the platform adds easy, an then i got excited and engaged LT

[peak forge]

ngl necrolord feels kinda meh in dungeons

[sick sentinel]

the little oozes that spawn from the fat guys again, i forgot to kill them, so they did there shit and merked us

[strong forum]

Yes

[sick sentinel]

it's better with glory and right now we have to use rep is the problem

[strong forum]

That why we recommend kyr/NF over it

Alot easier to play and more dmg

[sick sentinel]

with new leggo its total diferent story

hyperbole

[peak forge]

is kyrian more crit dependant because leggo?

[sick sentinel]

we use rep anyways, i never heard of any pwars using EM for keys or raids

as prot

rep and tW

[blazing condor]

EM in raid is seen

And it gets more value from crit

[peak forge]

was asking about 9.2 mainly

[sick sentinel]

i have my EM but its for dps, 235, so kinda low as well

so it has dps stats on it

[peak forge]

was thinking a EM + reverb build could be funny

but no reprisal then 😦

[sick sentinel]

that sounds for a job like parrygodx nomer

[blazing condor]

EM + Reverb is gonna be fun

since you cant run Rep + Seismic

so for the lower keys its gonna be dope

[wild hemlock]

i wana join a SF key on my ele just to watch you guys pump

[sick sentinel]

i want to see rogue and warrior, maybe a couple of other classes get disarm back personally

nothing quite as satisfying as you remove trash's weapons when they go to heroic cleave you

[strong forum]

Well kyrian is not crit dependant, but it does have some synergy yea, but most of the dmg gained from em will just be the doubled duration of spear

[sick sentinel]

its the best paird with crit i think right, haste main for all 4, mastery for NL ??? for venth ??? for NF crit/vers for kyrian

[plush tendon]

I just go Haste-Vers on all my Prot legos tbh. Not sure how the cov specific 9.2 lego will be, but if I can only have one, Itll probably be haste-crit since I play arms

[strong forum]

Well stat prio doesn't change depending on cov

[plush tendon]

just give me haste.... everything else is secondary

[strong forum]

Haste will be even more important next patch than it already was

[plush tendon]

more then 40% haste necessary

or like, get a nice smattering of stats, but make sure you got that good good haste

[strong forum]

It'll all be about getting as much rage as you can so you get as many procs from the set as you can

Lowering Avatar CD + getting outburst procs will be the main prio

[blazing condor]

time to macro IP to every spell i have

[plush tendon]

shit, my Ignore Pain is macroed to alt-f5

causes some issues sometimes when I missclick

but its all I got

[sick sentinel]

no, be chad like me and bind execute to mousewheeldown,

[blazing condor]

[sick sentinel]

execute go BRRR

[blazing condor]

my mousewheel jumps

so i cant do stuff like that

not that i would either

[sick sentinel]

jumpy boi?

[plush tendon]

my character doesnt jump since in my RP he has a condition

[blazing condor]

jumps just give me PTSD from progging Council in CN

people would RP jump all over the place

[plush tendon]

actually, it happened during Soulrender

when I got my ankles broken

[sick sentinel]

the mouse wheels i have are logi-shit and don't have free flow wheel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiIXUGqOoyw

i've heard this will happen with those given enough time

its a physical freemoving item so it wears down eventual

[wild hemlock]

council was the worst fight this expansion. idc if next tier is out. nothing can be worse than that shit

[blazing condor]

any fight that take you 10 minutes to get to the hard part is shit

took my semi shit guild like 2/3 weeks to even get to p3

and thats where the tanks gotta learn what to do and shit

[jagged pier]

council was great like all blockable

honestly fatescribe slyv and stonelegion are my worst

all fucking arse to do

[sick sentinel]

i'm going in

[strong forum]

Council was a tedious fight

Nightmare to raid lead

[jagged pier]

wasnt as tedious as the 3 i said tbh

[strong forum]

But from a pure tank pov, lots of shit to do with mostly blockable dmg

Slg made me quit

[jagged pier]

exactly

[strong forum]

Fatescribe looks boring

[jagged pier]

we literally skip fatescribe on reclear now

[strong forum]

Sylv is just too long and only magic dmg is also dumb

[jagged pier]

its the fucking worse

[strong forum]

But slg easily worst fight of the xpac

[jagged pier]

we have another raid to go yet

[strong forum]

Ya but I won't do that

[jagged pier]

[sick sentinel]

mfw can't get to vault

[tame jasper]

yep

and except painsmith all fights are boring in SoD (and even pain becomes after 300 wipes)

[jagged pier]

i like guardian all out dps slog is fun

[jagged pier]

as someone who did NH as prot this doesnt phase me, magic damage thats a healer problem

[strong forum]

I like how the edit removed the ping

Lmao

[jagged pier]

:/

[tame jasper]

in core yes, but as a tank i dont know. back in the day when those fights were aggro races (like vael in BWL) those fights were much more exciting to me

[jagged pier]

aggro KEKW

[strong forum]

It's just unfun

Knowing that you don't get rewarded for playing well

T. All of m+ this xpac

You can play like a god but if your group doesn't you'll still be squishy

[jagged pier]

so what does blizz do

here

more magic damage fights

[tame jasper]

yep

missed NW 23 and 22 this week as a) dps didnt get to kill the final boss (with spear, bl and 3 hammers) or b) dint get the 3rd boss down from his "throne" missing almost every hook

[jagged pier]

doing anything over a 15 KEKW

[tame jasper]

trying to get rank 1 prot warr on my realm 😦

[jagged pier]

well thats up to u

🤷

[tame jasper]

it is 🙂

[jagged pier]

i member the good old days where i didnt push and was rank 3 back in a season in legion

[tame jasper]

master jakey 🙂

[jagged pier]

no just everyone was playing BDK or druid

[sick sentinel]

loot here i come

[tame jasper]

now they all playing pala or druid xD

rank 1 prot warr on my realm has 2,55x

comparted to other tank classes thats not much (and year i know there are warriors with 2,9 and 3,x rating *look at @sick sentinel)

[sick sentinel]

the scale i have now is 242 and gloves i have is 246 haste/versa

248 as well (cheese gear)

[jagged pier]

do i log into wow tonight?

[mellow bridge]

[worthy karma]

I feel Jakey I tried to do a low key on my pally I watched two dps killed by the frontal on slime boss in pf and was like guess it’s not a wow day

[jagged pier]

i literally have nothing to do

[blazing condor]

Do some whacky pwarr m+ challenge

[jagged pier]

ive already run 10 dungeon on it this week

[twilit jay]

will the tier set pieces be upgradable with valor?

[oblique garnet]

next week we have an actual battle

[jagged pier]

theres no point u pull differently to me

[blazing condor]

Same key

2 pwarr key

Ez

[sick sentinel]

2 pwar 2 priests for 2 PI enhance shaman for WF

probably shit idea

reminder we can do giga reflects in spires this week due to enrage

[mighty valley]

dps suddenly remember to kick only on etherdivers

[sick sentinel]

yeah, cuz it deletes them

so they do zero dps if they die, and thy don't want to do zero dps

[native crest]

what stats do we put on The Wall cape? New to prot

[wild hemlock]

i would assume haste vers

[mighty valley]

haste + stat that you like the sound of

[sick sentinel]

versa seems to be most used for most tanks

[blazing condor]

Tanks just see ”take less damej” and go ”yes”

But yes versa is a good stat

[final scroll]

hey guys, quick question regarding prot warrior mastery, is the critical block roll separate from the block roll? meaning if I get hit, I have a x% to block, and IF I block, I have an x% to critical block VS if I get hit I have a x% chance to block AND an x% chance to critical block regardless if the initial block roll succeeded

sorry just picked warrior back up, it's been awhile

[lime urchin]

idk I just thunderclap :/

[sick sentinel]

50% critical block doesn't mean you are blockable attacked and 50% of time you do a crit block, when you block, that block then has chance to be critical or not for warrior

50% critical block means instead that 50% of your blocks, should be critical blocks

[chilly brook]

Isn't this the same thing?

lol

[chilly brook]

tldr, when an attack goes through it goes through multiple checks. A check for dodge, a check for parry, a check for block and then finally a check for crit block.

If you don't dodge or parry then it checks for a block. If you successfully block then and only then will it check for a crit block.

In other words you have to block in order to crit block.

[sick sentinel]

no? block chance and crit block aren't the same thing but you can't crit block without blocking

[chilly brook]

I mean a 50% crit block chance means 50% of blocks are crit blocks?

[sick sentinel]

i could be attacked 100 times and only block 10 attacks, and with 50% crit block chance, i would crit block 5, normal block 5 and not block the other like 89 attack you took to face/back

[distant crystal]

i don't think it's possible to have 50% crit block chance and 10% block chance is it

[chilly brook]

That's still 50% crit blocks

but ye Waat

[sick sentinel]

these are just easy to digest numbers

pretend numbers

[chilly brook]

It's really simple anyways, you get attacked if you block then you roll for crit block

[distant crystal]

yeah i could see how some people might read 50% chance to crit block meaning you're gonna crit block half of blockable attacks

ig that's what yogi is saying

[sick sentinel]

the attack must be blockable and you then have to roll for a crit block

[chilly brook]

The sentence is structured extremely weird

[chilly brook]

the attack must be blocked

not just blockable

[sick sentinel]

i do that, can you help put it in better words?

[chilly brook]

If you don't dodge or parry then it checks for a block. If you successfully block then and only then will it check for a crit block.

[sick sentinel]

well, not every attack, or let alone melee attack is blockable

[distant crystal]

does crit block chance show on char sheet

or is it just == to block chance?

[chilly brook]

mastery

iirc

[blazing condor]

If block > roll for crit block

[chilly brook]

I thought this was inferred?

[blazing condor]

if there not a blockable attack to be received

Then no crit block

Cus no block

[distant crystal]

honeslty the clearest way to tell it is the formula

[chilly brook]

Cuz the "If you successfully block then and only then will it check for a crit block." portion

[distant crystal]

in written form

[sick sentinel]

players may not inherently know that a cleave attack is not blockable and a heroic strike is

[chilly brook]

wat

[blazing condor]

But that doesnt matter for crit block

[chilly brook]

what mob heroic strikes?

[blazing condor]

Only thing you need to care about is ”can this be blocked”

If yes then just check ur mastery

And see if you get double block

[chilly brook]

Or cleaves?

[sick sentinel]

the really short version is if there is some angry dude swinging a big sword at just you, you can probably block it

[chilly brook]

If he's swinging a big sword period and it has a cleave component you can still probably block it

like 99% chance unless it's like the unbalancing blow where it's whitelisted to ignore block/parry/dodge

[sick sentinel]

what i am saying is the effect is roughly the same as heroic strike or cleave

single target enhanced basic attack, or short range frontal melee aoe attack

[chilly brook]

Still not sure how that's relevant

because frontal melees are pretty much all blockable

[sick sentinel]

shot calling thing i do, like if main threat in a pack is cleave and dots ill put in chat "cleave" "dot"

[patent osprey]

But what if it is high tide and a full moon

[chilly brook]

This is what I'm talking about

[patent osprey]

also during an eclipse

[chilly brook]

you said cleave attacks aren't blockable

which isn't the case unless it's magic

or it's whitelisted

[sick sentinel]

thats balance druid stuff because they do solar and astral crap that i won't even pretend to understand

moon controls the ocean

i don't moon magics

i played this game one time "infinite undiscovery" for xbox 360

didn't make it very far, but the story was something about they chained the moon the the earth because ???

[mighty valley]

i love that the block chance vs. crit block chance convo comes back again and again when like. we have 100% block chance the vast majority of the time so who care

[sick sentinel]

its like angling armor in world of tanks i have an idea of how it works, and assuming it works, i don't die

[chilly brook]

It's good to know how it works

[sick sentinel]

how long until we start yelling at me for dreaming about necrolord 100% crit block mastery stacking?

[chilly brook]

but really the bottom line is that when you're tanking whatever your crit block % is should be the fialry accurate to the amount of crit blocks that show up in total amount of blocks

[gray iris]

hey guys my vers is 6% and mastery 50% for ilvl 222..is it okay? IM a beginner

[mighty valley]

don't worry about it, you're fine, ilvl is king

and haste is better than either of those stats anyway

[gray iris]

i was doing &+ dung and this healer was telling me that my stats are horrible

7

[sick sentinel]

to add to what matt just said, don't forget there are tons of factors that can give you random mastery, so you may have higher crit block than shown end of some content

[mighty valley]

don't listen to random pug people, haha

listen to US

we're cool here

[distant crystal]

they really made the new PTR build 42069 huh

[sick sentinel]

how many mastery points? or better yet, link your character and wait for a yellow name to respond

[sick sentinel]

? relevance

[mighty valley]

42069 nice. the sex number

[gray iris]

oh okay thanks... i was worried for a second that 6% vers would stop me from getting healed effectively

[mighty valley]

oops

that was not meant to be a reply LOL

[distant crystal]

[mighty valley]

nah, the obsession with vers is a weird community meme that's not accurate... if you gear based on ilvl > haste > other stats, you'll get along fine

and good play > perfect stat spread anyway

[final scroll]

ahh ty ty

[gray iris]

yeah thanks man.....

[jagged pier]

blah blah stats dont matter blah blah random pugs in low keys are wrong

something somthing like that

[mighty valley]

pin that

[distant crystal]

gear doesn't matter existence is pain

but also keep shield block up

[gray iris]

thinking of getting primal legendary but it is not dropping in torghast lol...

reprisal

it is my 4th upper reaches run

[jagged pier]

is this warrior an alt?

[gray iris]

yeah

[jagged pier]

have u dont the first few quests in the maw?

like going to find the runecraver

[gray iris]

yeah done that

[sweet summit]

unlock runecarver/check bags/bank/power page

[jagged pier]

☝️

[gray iris]

how do i do that?

[sweet summit]

open your bag

open your bank

shift+j the click powers

and look

[sick sentinel]

Follow main quest line until it speficically tells you to go to torgy

then look out for any quest regarding it

[gray iris]

yeah i already did that...infact i need 1250 sould ash for that odyn horn or something

[sick sentinel]

yeah, so you just have to get the ash now, run it as warr or send from another alt is one option

[gray iris]

the problem is that the legendary is not dropping from torghast

i have ample amount of soul ash

or is it that legendary drops only once for all the chars?

[mighty valley]

if you've unlocked everything and you're doing the right wing at a high enough level, then you must already have it

[gray iris]

okay ill check my bag and the bank....is the bank shared across all the characters?

[mighty valley]

Nope

[gray iris]

omg i just checked and i already have it

[mighty valley]

LOL sorry you did all that torghast

[gray iris]

it is available in the powers section but it is not there in my bag

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ7oqmikZDQ

[mighty valley]

that means you've already handed it in

[gray iris]

to the runecarver?

[mighty valley]

yeah

[gray iris]

oh god...thanks guys you saved me a great deal of pain and frustration

[sick sentinel]

grey or orange border

if its greyed out you don't got it

[gray iris]

it is orange

[blazing condor]

Then grats u got it

[sick sentinel]

then u can make it right now

[blazing condor]

[gray iris]

okay cool...now i just need some cash

[sick sentinel]

it will count if he goes straight for r6 rep yeah?

[tender imp]

https://ptr.wowhead.com/item=186434/weave-of-warped-fates?bonus=6805

🤔

[sick sentinel]

its not very good, same effect as shaman standee or SS basically

[tender imp]

it was changed on ptr

[sick sentinel]

whats the change?

goes off on its own now seems like is differece

[urban portal]

oh so like its a generic cheat death

instead of soulstone

[tender imp]

i just tested it

u dont die, just get healed when it procs

exactly like alar

this is actually better

6min cd and doesnt dmg others

[urban portal]

ah fuck

does that mean i have to do pug fatescribe

[tender imp]

if u liked to use alar before and u want a better one yes

[urban portal]

i would like an alar

but i dont wanna prog fatescribe in pugs

[tender imp]

case of bad luck

[dawn canyon]

you know what that prolly does

it prevents kt like cheese

cuz you arent dead

[tender imp]

sounds good to me

[urban portal]

ye

its just better

for most ppl

[tender imp]

its easily bis for mythic raid progress when ur gear is bad

depending on boss etc of course

i used alar on mythic sylv prog

saved many pulls

[mighty valley]

oh I just got one of these randomly

almost sold it but thought "eh, maybe i'll regret this"

and now it's a little better

Can't tell if it still clears all your buffs etc

[tender imp]

u dont die

so no

[mighty valley]

fair enough, the "returns you to life" wording was ambiguous

[tender imp]

like said works exactly as alar

[sick sentinel]

i made an image

[distant crystal]

lol

[sweet summit]

same

[oblique garnet]

@jagged pier @sweet summit washed up

[sweet summit]

10k

[chilly brook]

https://tenor.com/view/are-ya-winning-son-gif-18099517

[oblique garnet]

bad week cant pull shit with bosses :/

[distant crystal]

why not?

[oblique garnet]

sanguine

[dawn canyon]

sanguine

well you can pull it on boss

[distant crystal]

oh EU kek

[dawn canyon]

i wouldnt recommend it

[oblique garnet]

whats next week

[distant crystal]

fort raging explosive

[dawn canyon]

better

wait actually

[distant crystal]

prot warrior week baby

[dawn canyon]

push week-ish

[distant crystal]

I think I've had enough necrolord fun on my new 60

time for kyrian

has anyone tested on ptr yet, if the fate trinket still drops aggro

guessing no but maybe 🤞

[jagged pier]

[teal swift]

@sweet summit @dawn canyon @blazing condor @jagged pier @patent osprey morning friends

[blazing condor]

[dawn canyon]

Im about to go to bed, have a nice day yuzu gm

[teal swift]

Sleep well phill

[blazing condor]

yeah me too gn gn

[teal swift]

Gn goodstuffe

[dawn canyon]

@blazing condor

N goodstuffe

[blazing condor]

[oblique garnet]

@sweet summit rare stream

Idk why discord isnt showing it

[sweet summit]

why tf u start stream at midnight

gm yuzu

[patent osprey]

have a good day @teal swift

[teal swift]

thanks Pika 😄

[teal swift]

❤️

[oblique garnet]

@sweet summit my god

these are boosters

📉

[sweet summit]

why are they

sub/barely doing

10k overall

???

[oblique garnet]

the first boss took like 5 minutes idk

3:24

[sweet summit]

ye i saw that

and fucking

[oblique garnet]

i said surely we can commit boss when its like 17%

[sweet summit]

executioner pull

xddd

[oblique garnet]

ye thats like normal pull

[sick sentinel]

where do i go to view it

[oblique garnet]

???

https://www.twitch.tv/latett2

[sweet summit]

ye idk

this is why you don't boost keys xd

[oblique garnet]

yeah

[sick sentinel]

2hrs of flask and phial

[oblique garnet]

this is why i stream the keys

[sick sentinel]

random monk

[sweet summit]

xd

[sick sentinel]

lets go big guy

want to see how man warrior tanks this shit

ohh u still sanguini fettuchini

[sweet summit]

ye late is eu chad

[sick sentinel]

i had some absolute chad DK in spires

calls out when he has CDs, doesn't just fall over to everything

i wish evey dps was like him

fearless and not so dumb

[west walrus]

Just did my very first 24 👀

[distant crystal]

[sick sentinel]

bald man mading and btiching about the latest store mount lol

some things never change

[waxen orbit]

Still good overall

What was the key & level

[oblique garnet]

Just 15sd helping guildies

I couldnt do all the fun pulls that id normally do in those boost runs

[waxen orbit]

Tragic

My record is 12.9k in a 17 mists

I wonder what I could get in SD

Still p good overall if you were doing just the standard 15 route

https://tenor.com/view/woona-vibin-catto-vibe-cat-mlem-gif-18638749

[oblique garnet]

Managed to break 13.5K in mists could potentially break 16k if i did some adjustments and had proper gas gas group

Not this week obviously

[sick sentinel]

as furry or arms

[waxen orbit]

Prot

[waxen orbit]

Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh

[oblique garnet]

Fury is like 18k arms who plays that in M+

[sick sentinel]

aint no one doing 14k on prot overall rofl, and 18k for fury? do you mean on ptr?

[chilly brook]

?

lol

[patent gorge]

Biz has for sure hit 18k in m+ I think he has a video on it

[oblique garnet]

Its not even hard

[chilly brook]

Late has at least one 16k key

as fury

So I'd def believe 18k

[oblique garnet]

Ye that wasnt even on a spiteful week

This is 3-4 months old aswell

[chilly brook]

People were doing 14k at the beginning of the season before bonegrinder

[sick sentinel]

i know its possible with full Mythic Raid gear and fully optimized, ive just never seen it first hand. most ive done on my fury was is 13k at ilvl 247

[distant crystal]

Pull patterns make or break overall

[chilly brook]

I mean doing big dam in keys is more on your group and how you pull than anything else

[oblique garnet]

Im consistently breaking 9.5-10k overall even on worse groups where i cant really pull the way id want to

[distant crystal]

Though I guess for fury you just want to chainpull 5 targets at a time eh

[oblique garnet]

as prot

[chilly brook]

nah

you want big pulls as fury as well

Bladestorm and WW uncapped

And so is Spear

[oblique garnet]

You dont play spear if you want to do big dam

[chilly brook]

NF korayn big brrrrr WW spam

[distant crystal]

So you want a yuuge pull every time bladestorm is up

[chilly brook]

Anytime reck is up

[distant crystal]

when does WW spam even take over

[chilly brook]

signet

🙂

[distant crystal]

#fury i guess

[sick sentinel]

yall think itll be worth maining fury in 9.2? or havoc dh?

im torn between the two

[oblique garnet]

Play whichever you enjoy

[distant crystal]

havoc has double jump 🤔

[oblique garnet]

Yeah and also alot of dc fel rushes among other things

[distant crystal]

Somehow, I've never experienced DH disconnects

and I've played my DH a fuckin ton loll

I have seen a couple of weird double-distance fel rushes off cliffs tho

[sick sentinel]

i have dalaran engineering on both so my war is fast, the only reason i dont play war as much is on sanguine weeks

[oblique garnet]

🤔

[sick sentinel]

Yeah it’s nearly impossible to get into pugs during sanguine weeks for me and I’m only queuing for 15s with a 2300 io lol

[distant crystal]

do ya'll use @cursor for spear

[mellow bridge]

Too many bad experiences with kyrian warriors during Sanguine

I avoid them myself ngl

[sick sentinel]

I definitely understand why lol it’s just hard to main something that’s hard to play certain weeks

[oblique garnet]

But NF is better 🤔

I dont even remember last time i played kyrian in anything

[sick sentinel]

For m+?

[mighty valley]

they're real close

comes down to your favorite blue

and nf pumps a touch harder afaik

i don't really get how sanguine is hard for us

[oblique garnet]

If you kyrian spear at the end its big int

[mighty valley]

sure, don't do that lmao

[sick sentinel]

Yeah, I don’t think anyone does but people thing we will

[mighty valley]

anyway if someone is being picky about class/cov balance at a 15 they have a baby brain

[sick sentinel]

Which is like more than half of the player base lol

[mighty valley]

this is why i avoid them

[waxen orbit]

Keep in mind also

It’s +15s

So there’s a lot more damage opportunity b/c ain’t nothin hurt in a 15

[waxen orbit]

Was referencing this message

Sorry for the ping, just wanted to clarify

B/c topic shifted slightly

[sick sentinel]

No I know it’s possible I just haven’t seen it besides mdi. But I believe

[waxen orbit]

Wait what prot warriors are you seeing in MDI

[sick sentinel]

I meant for like dps and that type of pulling

im pretty sure it doesn't, but i wonder if it makes mobs in m+ heal for more enraging affix

i know it doesn't i should say, just for some reason could see it happening some how

[distant crystal]

i mean the high dmg prot keys you mostly see will be overgearing 15s and running seismicc

idk about fury

[waxen orbit]

Nah it just empowers damage done, not healing done

[sick sentinel]

i just hate fort weeks in general

[waxen orbit]

If a mob hypothetically gets a heal cast off while enraged (i.e. the mobs in the Hakkar hallway for DOS) it will not be empowered by the enrage

Fort weeks do be pretty stinky

[distant crystal]

i like fort better as a dps

[sick sentinel]

fort and raging, so ontop of whatever key mod dmg they get addition 60% dmg near death

i'll give my key a go, see what happens

[safe thistle]

you can kite add so easily with the intervene/leap/TC/spear

a lot of class remove rage

explosive just sucks cause you cant do big pull :/

[sick sentinel]

I think you just need a shammy and soothe and you’re good to go

[urban portal]

Just book it

The moment enrage kicks in

The bigger problem with enrage is ranged attacks

Like spear throw/shoot/casts

Especially if they go on a melee

I mean a dps

[distant crystal]

just don't spend all your aoe stops before raging kicks in

[sick sentinel]

eh fuck it, whatever i got in my bags now i'll run it on monday

no way i can be arsed this week

w/o using the cdr shield wall leggo, what cd rotation can be used for the x4 guardian oblits on M?

[mighty valley]

Prot makes MDI for the phys damage groups from time to time

[sick sentinel]

so, we won't get anything for doing 16s in 9.2unless we do +20s on fort and tyr if i understand correctly?

maybe just a title and pet or something

[mighty valley]

?

You’ll still get KSM mount and gear upgrading for doing all 15s

or equivalent score

[sick sentinel]

i thought i read in 9.2 they are raising it to +20

[mighty valley]

No that’s for keystone hero, when you unlock the max all conduits item

[sick sentinel]

i could make a joke about that but i wont

[mellow bridge]

You'll have to ask for an external eventually iirc

Always DS, SB and SR obv

Then you can do e.g. wall first, ls scale 2nd, sw 3rd external 4th

Or just alternate wall and a strong external

[urban portal]

If you have 6 bops do you invalidate guardian?

[sick sentinel]

or like, how do you invalidate DG or AS

[oblique garnet]

No its magic dam on the soak thats the issue

[urban portal]

so you need blessing of spellwarding

[teal swift]

[urban portal]

@ionic fern im still not blocking

sever

gonna upload logs in a bit

at least the in game log isnt blocking

but it wasnt chunking that hard

maybe just a display bug

[urban portal]

nvm sorry was wrong

i was looking at the sever dot

the main hit i blocked

[ionic fern]

👍

[teal swift]

@ionic fern hugs

[west walrus]

Good morning everyone

[ionic fern]

[ionic fern]

[urban portal]

@teal swift how does blood dk live tank hits

rune tap and deaht strike?

and hope for the best?

[teal swift]

What hits u talking about

[urban portal]

just like general raid/m+ tank hits

[teal swift]

Depends, we have a toolbox, you really don't wanna runetap

Keep up marrow rend, and correctly pool and use resources

Every pull is a bit different

[urban portal]

so dont rune tap unless you know its gonna kill you

[teal swift]

Yep

[urban portal]

something like painsmith weapon throw

[teal swift]

Runetap costs a lot of runic power

You can use it in raid

In m+

[urban portal]

yeah i mean in raid

m+ doesnt have much tank hits

[teal swift]

It's going to cost you like 15 RP per use

In raid, you can survive everything with deathstrike

[urban portal]

oh does rune tap not give you the +10 runic power

[dawn canyon]

Andybrew said you need runetap + X for mythic sylv tank busters as dk

[dawn canyon]

No rp

Just costs the rune

[urban portal]

thats cringe man

[dawn canyon]

Very

[teal swift]

In keys you get 10rp from the rube and 15 from heart strike

So you lose 10 from talent too

15 RP swing

But as for raid, you need a cooldown plan. Minus like sylv

I can't assist with sylv.

But for most part runetap

Big big big hits

Like on guardian

[urban portal]

yeah im assuming you use rune tap a lot more in raid since you are taunt swapping anyways

[teal swift]

Or painsmith weapons

Yeah and you don't use the talent

So it costs 5rp

Instead of 15

[urban portal]

throughput survival doesnt matter too much for tanks

[teal swift]

A lot easier to justify

In keys runetapping will 100% kill you

You lose like 1/3rd of a deathstrike ler rubetap

[dawn canyon]

BDK does more throughput instead than mitigation generally so as shit as runetap is you gotta do it

[teal swift]

So you only use it when you have no choice. When I was fighting soulrender

It was better for me to ask for pain sup

And shit

Rather than runetapping

[urban portal]

forbdk you just kinda alternate heart and death?

[teal swift]

But still runetapped as nessesary

[urban portal]

and marrowrend upkeep

[teal swift]

Kinda

[dawn canyon]

Also bloodboil

[teal swift]

Dk is a resource management spec

You need to keep 3 runes rolling

[dawn canyon]

Pooling

[teal swift]

And keep about 70-80 rp

[urban portal]

pooling is cringe

full send

[dawn canyon]

I usually stayed at 100 but i suck at bdk

[teal swift]

I full send in raid unless I need to pool

But yeah basically don't waste rp

Don't waste runes

And always log keys

And raid

[urban portal]

logging keys cringe

[teal swift]

90% of my deaths are because I deathstrike hella fucking late

[teal swift]

Stfu

[blazing condor]

Log keys so you can get top parses

[dawn canyon]

It's good

[teal swift]

It's so important esp for tanks. Bdk especially.

Bdk has threat issues

And survival issues at tines

You have to review lots of shit to fix the play.

[urban portal]

yo

you cant say that

just because yogi is asleep

[dawn canyon]

Ur right

RP waste bad though

[teal swift]

Very bad

[urban portal]

say it when hes awake

[teal swift]

@sick sentinel log keys

[dawn canyon]

He does

[teal swift]

He'll see it after LOL

I dont

I should though

It's so good, see your mistakes and ahit

[dawn canyon]

Deleted it cuz it was uncalled for and mean

[urban portal]

imagine if theres a WA that tracks wing timers on bosses

so you can min max the shit out of block

[teal swift]

What, I respect Yogi's tenacity. He and I both know he's bad. But he has more tenacity than any other tank I've met.

So I wanna help him.

[dawn canyon]

I can try make one

[teal swift]

He has a good personality

[urban portal]

tracking swing timers on adds is cringe

but like on ST might as well

do i have anything better to do on a tank

[teal swift]

There are

For monks

Because they wanna purify instsntly

[urban portal]

I love monks

[teal swift]

Glad I could help with bdk shit

[dawn canyon]

Target info and then swing could work

[urban portal]

I want to go to monk disc but they aren't funny

[dawn canyon]

But idk how to get it to work only if targted

[teal swift]

Brewlounge is really xool

@sullen valve ily

[dawn canyon]

Im only here, dk and paladin (for mog)

Also UI channels to steal good shit

[teal swift]

Gursdian discord has pumps

He's a very good resource

@dawn canyon

[dawn canyon]

I dont have a druid but ill take a look

[teal swift]

I barely play mine

Wordle 221 3/6

🟨⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛🟩🟩🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Get rekt

[ionic fern]

Oh, that's the new game everyone plays that i have no idea about.

[jagged pier]

🟨 ⬛ ⬛ ⬛ ⬛

⬛ ⬛ ⬛ ⬛ ⬛

🟩 🟩 🟩 🟩 🟩

im actually god

[blazing condor]

Oh i didnt think yall played wordle

Its fun

[jagged pier]

i mean u can try, but look at how much help we've all given him over the months and its like he doesnt pay attention

like nothing has changed

[teal swift]

Yeah it's super fun

Dm me you scores if you like daily

[teal swift]

Is that fake?

[jagged pier]

no

[teal swift]

That looks fake lmao

[blazing condor]

Wordle 221 4/6

⬛⬛⬛🟨⬛
⬛🟩🟩⬛⬛
🟨🟩🟩⬛⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

[teal swift]

Oh nice

4/6 pog

What's your starter word usually?

[ocean reef]

No idea what this wordle is

But I see people spam it each day

[blazing condor]

I always start with ”bread” cus thats what i did first time

[jagged pier]

proof

[teal swift]

I do Adieu

As my starter word too

Was that pure luck LOL?

[blazing condor]

All skill

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/wack-meme-gif-24235109

[jagged pier]

no i looked at the letters i had left

and thought of the first word out of thos letters

[ocean reef]

That story hella whack

[blazing condor]

😠

Spoilers

[strong forum]

See jakey isn't dyslexic

He's just too big brain

[blazing condor]

He needs to be in his right environment

[teal swift]

I s2g

[blazing condor]

Like a savant

[teal swift]

I've cli ked the spoiler tag twice

[strong forum]

Can't mark spoiler on phone

[teal swift]

Even if I click the image?

And click spoiler???

[jagged pier]

yes

[teal swift]

Jfc that's dumb

[blazing condor]

I cam

[teal swift]

I'm sorry if I ruined today's wordle for anyone

[blazing condor]

Can

[teal swift]

Genuinely feel bad

[strong forum]

You have to put spoiler in the data name iirc

That works I think

[blazing condor]

Idk what yall talkin boit

[teal swift]

Doesn't work for me

[blazing condor]

Works for me

[teal swift]

Yuzu skriver

[ocean reef]

Charge yo phone

[blazing condor]

I will i just woke up

[ocean reef]

Oh goodstuffe is a dane

[blazing condor]

Dont charge it overnight usually

[ocean reef]

[teal swift]

Ded phone gang

[blazing condor]

Im a swede

[teal swift]

@blazing condor bro turn on OLED mode

[ocean reef]

Monka

[teal swift]

Jfc

Click darkmode 10 times on mobile

Turn on amoled

[strong forum]

|| https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/697995591921172532.gif? ||

[ocean reef]

Gray looks better

[teal swift]

Black looks way better

[blazing condor]

I dont see why id need darker dark mode

[teal swift]

And saves metric fuckton of power

[teal swift]

Less electricity used, saving the planet

[ocean reef]

My phone has no power issues so I don't need to

[blazing condor]

Fuck the planet

[teal swift]

It's literally better for the environment

[blazing condor]

What it ever do for me

[strong forum]

Dafuck is oled mode

[teal swift]

Go to settings

And spam click darkmode

[ocean reef]

Turning on black mode would be a tiny tiny diff

[teal swift]

On mobile

[strong forum]

I clicked it 30 times

Nothing happen

[ocean reef]

And then I wouldn't be able to use the funny amongus gif

[teal swift]

I@strong forum on mobile

Spam click dark, around 10 and this option comes up

[blazing condor]

Probably just a samsung thing

[teal swift]

Has to be on mobile

[teal swift]

No, discord mobile it works for all phones

[strong forum]

Oh discord

I thought phone

[teal swift]

Yeah

[blazing condor]

Cringe

[ocean reef]

Not pressing the button tho

[blazing condor]

Doesnt work for me yuzu

[teal swift]

You unlock amoled by spamming dark mode

Then u doing it wrong

[blazing condor]

I dont remember if iphones have amoled or not

[teal swift]

Cause it's an app thing, not. A phone thing.

[blazing condor]

Well yes

[teal swift]

Idk apple is cringe

[blazing condor]

But different OS

[teal swift]

Go buy a real phone

[ocean reef]

Or keep the phone you like the most

[blazing condor]

damn we grown ass adults still doing phone wars

[teal swift]

Or get anything other than an apple

[ocean reef]

I dont use or buy iphones because I don't like ios

[teal swift]

I support the right to repair.

[ocean reef]

But I love macs

[ionic fern]

I found my old Nokia 3310 so i'm going to be rocking that as soon as i find a charger.

Take that wannabe Snake players.

[teal swift]

I'm sure it still works

[blazing condor]

They sell new one of those for like €20

[ocean reef]

Cant do school work without a macbook now

[blazing condor]

Used to sell em to people who wanted a burner phone

[teal swift]

Low key, I kinda rather have a 3310

[ocean reef]

Feels alien to use a Windows laptop now

[teal swift]

I'd be less tethered to my phone

[blazing condor]

U should buy a real phone like an iphone

[teal swift]

I will not get an iphone.

I can't ethically support the company

[blazing condor]

At least i can spoiler images

[teal swift]

That fights right to repair across every industry

[ionic fern]

I honestly get the phone that's the best value for the money.

[teal swift]

Their anti consumer practices actually disgust me

[ionic fern]

Last time (and still have it) it was OnePlus 5 for me.

But now they are also super expensive for w/e reason so i guess i'm swapping to something else.

[teal swift]

Like it's really bad

I use my Google pixel xl2

I'll get any new phone that offers me ip67 or better rating

Needs to be waterproof so I can shower and wash phone in the shower with me

Not memeing.

[jagged pier]

what the fuck are u doing to your phone

actually

i dont want to know

[blazing condor]

iphone 13 has ipx68

[teal swift]

Every time I've taken off someone's cSe

[blazing condor]

[teal swift]

There's like fucking skin and oil and shit everywhere

It's disgusting

[blazing condor]

[teal swift]

My phone's actually water proof, so it stays really clean

[ionic fern]

[blazing condor]

Snake yuzu confirmed

Shedding skin

[teal swift]

I've also dropped in hot tub once by accident

I have a really bad medical condition

[strong forum]

I don't dare to test out the water proof part

[teal swift]

It's a kind of dandruff

[strong forum]

👍

[teal swift]

When it flairs

It snows everywhere

Always

To the point where I'm putting steroids on my scalp twice a week

Forever

And then using antindandruff shampoo

And this medicated shampoo

It sucks.

[teal swift]

I do ^•^

[blazing condor]

I kinda get that on my skin during the winters

Not as severe probably

[teal swift]

Yeah it's really bad

[blazing condor]

But lots of dry skin i need cortisone for n shit

[teal swift]

Bleeds, scales over

[blazing condor]

Yeah not that bad

[teal swift]

And like coats everything in white dust

I've been trying to deal with it for a year now

We finally found something to help,

But hasn't cleared up, but not shedding anymore

It's just a genetics thing

Not a hygeiene thing :(

Plz don't judge

I'm very very insecure about it

[ocean reef]

Oneplus is pretty pog

Had a Oneplus 2 for 3 years or so

[teal swift]

I dread the day my phone dies

[ocean reef]

Until I one fateful day dropped it and the screen cracked completely

[teal swift]

I really like the pixel 2 xl

It's the right size

[strong forum]

I are samsung galaxy note

[ocean reef]

Samsung Galaxy S21+ atm

[strong forum]

[ocean reef]

Got it for cheap so jumped on it

[strong forum]

I don't care for phones anymore

[ocean reef]

Neither really, I don't use it permanently

[strong forum]

I used to care to make sure I always had a better phone than everybody

[ocean reef]

At most it's a Discord+Spotify device

[strong forum]

To flex

But I stopped caring like 3 years ago

[ocean reef]

Then the other things here and there that you use a phone for

[strong forum]

Discord + Spotify

[jagged pier]

i want my old sony ericson back

small

compact

not apps

was bis

[strong forum]

I had a Sony Ericsson Walkman

[dawn canyon]

Old sony brick >>>

[strong forum]

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/catjam-darkbigbug56-gif-22216433

[dawn canyon]

I love pressing a 3 times for a c

[jagged pier]

i didnt mind that i was so fast

https://tenor.com/view/typing-fast-jim-carrey-gif-5315333

[ocean reef]

I'm still a boomer when it comes to phone typing

But on PC I'm a hackermans

[mighty valley]

damn even I’m not a boomer for old phones

[strong forum]

T9

Bis

[jagged pier]

look okay even with all these fancy apps nothing has beaten snake on the nokia

best mobile game ever made

[mighty valley]

True it was legend

[jagged pier]

andu could play that for like a week without recharging

[ocean reef]

Snake on the Nokia 3310

I also had a drawing game on it

[ionic fern]

I still remember making ringtones on those phones. 😦

[ocean reef]

Where if you moved your little dot cursor over something it'd either turn it black or the same colour as the background

[lime urchin]

Hah, look at all these old farts here

[jagged pier]

[strong forum]

Sit down bebi

[ionic fern]

@sweet summit also reading like "What are they even talking about..."

[jagged pier]

TRUE

KEKW

[ocean reef]

Erga zoomzoom

👶

[mighty valley]

We legit got fuckin sci fi computers in our pockets and it sucks shit

[oblique garnet]

why on earth are you this active at this hour

[sweet summit]

👴

ya'll boomers

cba

[blazing condor]

Preach

[jagged pier]

we are boomers we are up early

👴

[blazing condor]

Imagine being a minority as a zoomer

[mighty valley]

Zoomers are getting jobs now

Fucked up

[ionic fern]

Cause we're actually active during normal EU hours.

[blazing condor]

Im still in bed cus my class got canceled

[jagged pier]

lucky

wish work got canceled

[ocean reef]

Having a good sleep schedule helps

[jagged pier]

[ocean reef]

[ionic fern]

Been at work for..3h now.

[jagged pier]

[oblique garnet]

soon

[ocean reef]

Gn when you get there

[jagged pier]

WTF U MEAN soon

its the fucking morning

[ionic fern]

Your sleep schedule is seriously messed up.

[ocean reef]

Oh I thought Late was an NA'er

[strong forum]

Demon

[oblique garnet]

Its a rollercoaster

[blazing condor]

And im too short to ride it

[sweet summit]

sad

!

[oblique garnet]

Sometimes good sometimes bad

[strong forum]

All prot people except sense are eu

[oblique garnet]

Never consistent

[ocean reef]

happy

!

[sweet summit]

!!

[ocean reef]

[sweet summit]

[blazing condor]

Funny how pwarr still tips to NA with that spread

[ionic fern]

I actually think Deswind also has Prot tag and he's NA?

[strong forum]

Ah... Right

[blazing condor]

[sweet summit]

[strong forum]

May have forgotten about him

[ocean reef]

[ionic fern]

Understandable.

[strong forum]

Deswind MDI coach

[sweet summit]

deswind owns

[jagged pier]

[strong forum]

Finder of routes, skipper of pride

[blazing condor]

Na pwarr is on another level

[jagged pier]

finder of standstill meta

[ocean reef]

yes & u

[ionic fern]

That's just psychopatic.

No one can stand still when playing WoW.

Mad lad.

[oblique garnet]

Its because sense is raiding as prot and none of the eu raid as tank anymore except jakey

[blazing condor]

…i can

I dont mind siegebreaker

[ionic fern]

"Its because sense is raiding as prot and none of the eu raid as tank anymore except jakey"

Fixed it.

[jagged pier]

thats actually true

[oblique garnet]

I do raid

[blazing condor]

You boost

[ionic fern]

😂

Aren't you a warlock now?

[oblique garnet]

Infact i have tanked 3 bosses on mythic

No

Im warrior

[ionic fern]

Shaman?

👀

[jagged pier]

warrior