im p sure daily grinds didnt turn 4m people from the game
#protection
waxen orbit
im p sure daily grinds didnt turn 4m people from the game
I’m talking about garrisons providing daily shit as the only content driving people away
blazing condor
a bunch of shit happened those years
mighty valley
"the only content" was the problem there, and the shift in game focus like goodstuffe said
sick sentinel
what is the deal with tich server USA i keep seeing
theres alot of love hate with that realm
chilly brook
what is the deal with tich server USA i keep seeing
?
blazing condor
idk im eu
mighty valley
honestly wow's biggest problem is its audience is overall aging up and getting bitter, and they're not doing anything to refresh it for a new audience
sick sentinel
some people say DON'T INVITE TICH,
blazing condor
tldr people just wanna be kids again and have fun
blazing condor
its like the NA version of Sanguino
patent osprey
Venthyr Prot
ionic fern
I mean..i just want to log on and play the game without feeling like i'm left behind just because i'm not logging on every single day and playing 8h+
😦
blazing condor
play more efficiently 
ionic fern
Venthyr Prot
Aww, how did you know you were my favourite streamer. ❤️
sick sentinel
wtf they'd say, but i think that was the image they had that tich is full of condescending douchey whiny players leave if they don't get high enough dps or the warlock died randomly
waxen orbit
I mean..i just want to log on and play the game without feeling like i'm left be...
This is what I am talking about. And this is the issue that has been on the table since BFA that people have been united talking about, yet Blizz has just not listened lmao
patent osprey
Aww, how did you know you were my favourite streamer. ❤️
I played Prot warrior yesterday and @blazing condor told me to go back prot pal
chilly brook
honestly wow's biggest problem is its audience is overall aging up and getting b...
No lol, the biggest problem is the devs (like a lot of devs in the industry now) have this weird obsession with being right and that whatever they do is the right decision because their decisions prior to that brought them success.
Siege is having the same issue
blazing condor
I played Prot warrior yesterday and <@!186864948343865344> told me to go back pr...
ionic fern
$mute 186864948343865344 5m
true pawnBOT
Done.
waxen orbit
No lol, the biggest problem is the devs (like a lot of devs in the industry now)...
True
sick sentinel
tichcondrius has some huge negative stigma going on around it in general like ragnaros
ionic fern
I played Prot warrior yesterday and <@!186864948343865344> told me to go back pr...
He can't hurt you anymore.
For 5 minutes.
@blazing condor 
chilly brook
Literally brought the game back from the brink of death by fixing bugs and making it a better competitive experience, adding a decent ranked system and then continually doing that. Now they're focusing on nerfing things that no one asked to be nerfed and trying to make the game easier and are essentially making changes focused on the casual audience. Guess what? They've been on a steady decline, but they're convinced they're right.
ionic fern
I played Prot warrior yesterday and <@!186864948343865344> told me to go back pr...
Did you try PTR m+ as Prot?
mighty valley
this is just armchair psychology shit, another bad thing the community does is try and pretend they're equipped to analyze the people and process involved, when they should just stick to criticizing the actual game
chilly brook
this is just armchair psychology shit, another bad thing the community does is t...
I know people who worked for Ubisoft....
blazing condor
well my mom works for jagex she can ban ur account lol
chilly brook
This isn't some armchair psychology thing kek
sick sentinel
i got chatbanned from RS because i figured out that you can type "bullfuck" and it got around the censor
ionic fern
BLizzard should just start communicating more effectively and people would be happier.
-Big glaring issue not getting fixed? Just answer us WHY..provide us the reasoning.
Currently it's just..silence.
sick sentinel
so i got small chat mute for that like 1-2 weeks i think
ionic fern
Even if the answer won't satisfy 100% of the people it will still be a answer and will more than likely make things clearer for others.
waxen orbit
Even if the answer won't satisfy 100% of the people it will still be a answer an...
This
Right now it is a one sided abyss of communication
mighty valley
i think their communication could be a lot better, but also communication with a big game audience is very hard and it's not trivial to fix that
waxen orbit
We shout into a pit and the pit doesn’t respond
That’s the communication we’re getting
mighty valley
all of their most outspoken communicators from the past got eaten alive lol
ionic fern
i think their communication could be a lot better, but also communication with a...
Definitely..you can't answer everyone about every issue. 🙂
chilly brook
"oh hey this guy has a 90% pickrate and a high win rate"
"huh must be his gun we should nerf it"
"oh lets add 5 more operators that have grenades, you know the thing this guy counters?"
"wow that's a great idea!"
"huh he's still got a 90% pickrate and a high win rate, I think we need to nerf his gun again"
"Should we add more grenades too?"
"Yeah why not"
"Huh weird he still had a high pickrate this last season, let's just nerf his gadget"
This is literally the siege balancing process
blazing condor
@patent osprey also can't believe you snitched like that. really gonna do me that way 
chilly brook
Like obviously in a meme format
patent osprey
<@!133743762999476224> also can't believe you snitched like that. really gonna d...
kek
sick sentinel
zovaal feels like a completely throw away or reduntant comic book villian with no real motives and we can't see his real face or body and voice and then at the end of the episode, its like a mutant from another planet on xmen, they are just defeated and banished
chilly brook
But that's literally what happened over a few seasons, they kept adding things that an operator counters and continued to nerf the operator because they felt he was over represented even though he was the only one who could counter throwables for a long time. And they saw it as a problem with the operator rather than a problem with how many throwables are on the table.
sick sentinel
theres no real set up for him, hes just there and oooo he angry
he gunna kill us all!! with death magic!!
mighty valley
i think there's some interesting stuff below the surface with zovaal but the surface is so boring, why would i bother digging deeper
waxen orbit
That’s because the Jailer is a writing tool, not a genuine character
From the perspective of a writer, there is nothing there to flesh him out
mighty valley
i can see that character work went into him if I work hard enough but his entire presentation is dull enough that I don't want to
chilly brook
That’s because the Jailer is a writing tool, not a genuine character
He basically is a plot device
waxen orbit
No clear, understandable motives, no understandable factors that make him somewhat relatable or fathomable as a real person, nothing. He is simply a vehicle for Danuser to peddle Sylvanas’ arc further
chilly brook
I wouldn't go that far tbh
But his setup is weak
And he definitely feels like a tool to advance the story
mighty valley
also don't obsess over one writer
chilly brook
no
waxen orbit
also don't obsess over one writer
You really going to extremes here g. I didn’t obsess lol; he’s the lead writer
strong forum
You don't understand
mighty valley
the community lays everything at this one person's feet and analyzes everything through that lens, i'm just doing a small caution
strong forum
Zovaals plan was insane
sick sentinel
they fucked it all up,
waxen orbit
the community lays everything at this one person's feet and analyzes everything ...
Of course they do??? He’s the head of narrative?? That’s his job??
chilly brook
Zovaals plan was insane
sick sentinel
what should have happened is 9.3 should have come out, and then surprise! it was arthas all along and he was just collecting even more souls
mighty valley
sigh. the buck stops with him, but on a game like wow, the story is a large process with many voices. the wow forum community acts like this guy goes into a cabin and returns with a hundred pages of parchment, like it's just his obsession
waxen orbit
what should have happened is 9.3 should have come out, and then surprise! it was...
Pls no
mighty valley
wow story has always been a mess that sometimes accidentally makes something good that people like
sick sentinel
the spirit controlling arthas leaps into zovaals body and he goes nuts, destroys oribos into a million pieces
mighty valley
but even during wotlk, or mop, pick your heyday, the vocal forum community was like "this is the death knell for wow story"
sick sentinel
we've killed and captured baine so many times this point who even cares
guy dies, rezzed 3 expansions later
chilly brook
the spirit controlling arthas leaps into zovaals body and he goes nuts, destroys...
?
chilly brook
guy dies, rezzed 3 expansions later
???
waxen orbit
Leave Arthas out of this, his arc was perfect
waxen orbit
Don’t let the current writing department taint his character
sick sentinel
theres been lore characters that they are dead, and then they get rezzed back to life in future expansion
mighty valley
arthas' death sucked
chilly brook
theres been lore characters that they are dead, and then they get rezzed back to...
Baine isn't one of them??
mighty valley
and he showed up so much in wotlk that he became a cartoon character
you really don't need to personally show up to sneer at me for collecting six bear asses, lich king
chilly brook
arthas' death sucked
His death was probably the most iconic death of a villain??
mighty valley
yep. people raged about it at the time
chilly brook
and he showed up so much in wotlk that he became a cartoon character
Hard disagree lol
chilly brook
yep. people raged about it at the time
source?
mighty valley
it was corny! we all just get frozen and then tirion fordring steals the show!
and then people were mad about the whole bolvar thing
also the entire plot of icecrown was cool and creepy and we learned that everything good in arthas's soul was absolutely dead and gone. and then he's like "is... is that you? papa?"
"daddy?? im scared daddy"
strong forum
<:danderson:904606068108304424>
I was looking for this dumb fucking omega tldr of his plan that all doesn't make sense at all
On reddit
Couldn't find it
sick sentinel
there was malders that the helmet of domination was broken and un-recoverable like the frost mourne
chilly brook
I was looking for this dumb fucking omega tldr of his plan that all doesn't mak...
lol
sick sentinel
they wanted to loot it and wear it peice it back together
people will mald about any stupid thing if you let them
waxen orbit
People who try to justify current WoW lore
strong forum
Cuz he fails his own plan intentionally to then safe characters only to kill them off later for no logical gain, but it's all his plan
Really fucking 
blazing condor
u just jealous of his 10 milliion IQ
sick sentinel
i was 100% expecting 9.3 with arthas whoop some ass
mighty valley
from my perspective, wow story has always been pretty bad at the big cartoony comic book story moments, so my expectations there are low. but the smaller stuff in the leveling story and zone content and stuff can sometimes be surprisingly good
sick sentinel
the spirit whatever
mighty valley
so overall i enjoyed shadowlands, loved revendreth
sick sentinel
i don't know the technical term for LK spirit
mighty valley
even if i roll my eyes at the big boom bang story stuff
waxen orbit
WoW lore was good up to the end of Legion and first patch of BFA
blazing condor
didnt like ghuun
strong forum
I was invested until the story for raid was "oh yeah we found this temple with an old god thingy"
"yeah go kill it, that sounds good"
Nice lore
chilly brook
I just hate that there was no buildup
Gotta be careful wouldn't want to be a cartoon villain
😛
waxen orbit
I’ll never understand the “cartoon villain” argument
In the Justice League show, Darkseid was a villain. Justice League was a cartoon. Darkseid was a good, fleshed out villain
compact plinth
“Artificially made old god”
I mean people have C'thun on farm
waxen orbit
Really just strikes me as someone who has only watched 1960s cartoons
waxen orbit
I mean people have C'thun on farm
Touché
compact plinth
When they wanna be lazy with lore, a group of adventures get the job done
Or just go back in time
AKA Cataclysm
mighty valley
In the Justice League show, Darkseid was a villain. Justice League was a cartoon...
just a shorthand for when someone starts to feel like some 60s batman shit. "i'll get you next time, champion"
i don't think anyone's like "modern joker is a shitty cartoon villain"
blazing condor
"yeah go kill it, that sounds good"
you know that shit is on sight 
sick sentinel
💀
strong forum
you know that shit is on sight <:Pepexecute:595606525272391710>
Learned that from dayz
chilly brook
I miss the old PUBG
Put a stupid amount of time into that before it officially released
Was downhill after the 1.0 release
blazing condor
pubg kinda pioneered the BR scene but it shat the bed
it just wasnt a good game
poorly optimised
strong forum
Idk, BRs I never got into. But dayz? Where your life has actual value? Big adrenaline
blazing condor
DayZ was mostly just a walking simulator in my case
never really got far into it
eventually would get some cool loot and find some stuff but then just die
and its like
chilly brook
pubg kinda pioneered the BR scene but it shat the bed
didn't help that they did a bunch of weird balancing decisions with 1.0 and reworked a bunch of things like driving
mighty valley
DayZ was super fun with a group of people
chilly brook
Some of the most fun 1000 hours with friends I've had lol
mighty valley
i still play pubg super casually with a group, would be absolutely miserable as a competitive game but for hanging out road trips that occasionally has a shoot out? still my preferred br
don't make me build a tower
distant crystal
i haven't played in a while but I put a LOT of hours into pubg back in the day
Wild that it's gone from f2p to pay and bacck
robust rover
Oh, I keep forgetting. @patent osprey Thanks to some of your YouTube videos a month or so ago, I learned better how to do some opening dungeon pulls (and other pulls going forward). Might seem trivial, but I didn't understand until watching how effective charge, revenge, leap, clap, charge revenge, intervene back can be to pulling packs quickly and getting a little initial agro. Sometimes I wonder if I should roll DH with how much I love this type of movement.
scenic mural
can u link said video
lime urchin
Oh, I keep forgetting. <@!133743762999476224> Thanks to some of your YouTube vi...
I highly recommend going to @patent osprey twitch, where you can watch back many many runs
distant crystal
I prefer to go to his house and watch him push through the window
mighty valley
Ping Mwahi instead
distant crystal
ping @cursor they deserve it
waxen orbit
Every fucking person in #protection on their way to ping Plka because of his raw, unbridled prot warrior Chad aura
waxen orbit
TRUE
Except paladin is a lot smoother of an experience than warrior for like 99% of keys (except ToP) 
blazing condor
Wittle baby wants smooth keys in his wittle game
sick sentinel
well
chilly brook
I swear yogi
west walrus
I prefer pinging @waxen orbit because reasons
chilly brook
If you bring up IV…..
sick sentinel
when going on some group event, i think you'd rather want to be smooth rather than rough
paladin sure makes it seem easy, whatever
waxen orbit
I prefer pinging <@!203999248931356673> because reasons <:okayge:917646812519739...
@waxen orbit
west walrus
sick sentinel
same idea, you punch an enemy for low tier damage does a heal, does a cc thingy in doom
chilly brook
same idea, you punch an enemy for low tier damage does a heal, does a cc thingy ...
Yogi…..
sick sentinel
mhmm?
chilly brook
IV is bad
mighty valley
yogi is the IV defender
sick sentinel
noted
mighty valley
it's ok to have a pet talent
as long as you acknowledge that when you're doing real hard stuff, it is not ideal
sick sentinel
intervene? sure
patent osprey
lol love it
dawn canyon
^^
oblique garnet
Ran it once during 5 pwarr grievous
This is why you dont do damage
not enough 
Revenge heals you
jagged pier
torpid fiber
will we be recrafting reprisal in the boot slot in 9.2? should i craft it in legs or boots right now if i dont already have it?
mighty valley
only craft it now if you're gonna use it before the end of the patch, otherwise you're just gonna have to buy another vessel anyway
torpid fiber
and would it make sense to just make it in the boot or legs? cause i plan on running more keys before 9.2 drops
mighty valley
afaik boots are better next patch, but legs are better right now
teal swift
Morning fire s
mighty valley
🔥
sick sentinel
teal swift
Not here it isnt
Oxford comma is life
I wouldn't buy from them for that reason alone
chilly brook
strong forum
teal swift
Who gives a fuck about an oxford comma
Weren't you reading 
I do
mighty valley
a friend once showed me an email where someone said "I've been playing games recently: Halo, World of Warcraft with my dad and husband, Overwatch..."
it's not an oxford comma but still
i always think of my dad and husband, overwatch
watch your grammar kids
sick sentinel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC8jBHvy9G8 avatar + LS + SW + SB + SR + IP
torpid fiber
if you look at your great vault but dont select anything then go clear heroic SoD, will that clear count towards next weeks vault even though you havent selected anything yet?
ocean reef
Yea
That vault you open is locked to the previous resets vault progress
Anything you do in the new reset will count towards the next, regardless of if you have picked an item or not
ocean yoke
shut summit
🎉
hollow bolt
congratz!
final gust
Blood DK main, tried prot warrior out in a m+. Does prot do any AoE damage at all? I mained warr in BfA where visions would proc avatar constantly and you could smash out thunder claps but it just felt like I was spending most of my time waiting around for my shield slam procs- which are ST only. Is it really that bad, or am I just bad?
teal swift
Yes
final gust
yes to all questions?
final gust
is it just from revengie spam?
final gust
i'll be asleep then kek
mighty valley
Don't use the BFA talents, don't overuse IP, and you should have plenty rage for revenges
Empty GCDs should be very rare
final gust
that was the problem
in bfa you could basically keep IP up all the time
so I was used to doing that
teal swift
IP is a second line of defense. You mainly use it when you have to.
Or to prevent rage capping so you can funnel more rage u to AM
final gust
felt a lot better
urban portal
thunderclap isnt a real spell
teal swift
You sure?
I thought thunderclap was a ground effect
So it counted as a spell for procs and shit
strong forum
You can but it still resets SS and does like 60% the of the dmg of a revenge without costing rage :)
But yeah TC sucks as a button
blazing condor
TC feels bad to press
blazing condor
no nitro but :max:
teal swift
Why no nitro..
strong forum
blazing condor
me in the grocery store
lime urchin
What are all these old farts complaining about thunderclappin
Coolest ability ingame
sweet summit
strong forum
I removed that glyph cuz those 3 singular bolts are annoying
lime urchin
my graphic settings wont let me see that glyph 😦
blazing condor
😳
spare ice
hey guys, i am trying to get into tanking for my friend grp but i struggle really hard in higher keys. how do we survive bigger pulls? i feel so squishy...
are there any youtube channels i should take a look at for how to pull and use cdsß
urban portal
What's your definition of high keys
Your friends shouldn't make you tank anything more than a 15 if just starting out
ionic fern
Do you have any logs/vods or anything else that could provide us more information?
Are you playing Reprisal?
More often than not it's usually a mix of:
-Low SB up-time
-A lot of wasted rage
-Prioritising IP over SB
-Not pressing your rotational buttons enough so you have less rage to go around and use
-Not using your defensive CD's
spare ice
What's your definition of high keys
i can tank up to 16.17 just fine but everything beyond that feels really hard. i play reprisal legendary, i keep SB up at all times. it just feels like im unhealable sometimes. do i need to use a defensive on every pull? i will try to log our next key and post it here. maybe tomorrow evening
ionic fern
You need to use a defensive when needed.
Even on 20's you don't need them on "every pull".
If you're confident in your own good play and think that's not the issue then it's more than likely casts going through and people not interrupting.
jagged pier
mwahi the amount of ppl i see that say i have SB up all the time but still feel squishy literally 99% of them have like 50% blocked hits in the end
urban portal
I play like ass and I have like 70 min
spare ice
our comp looks like this most of the time me as tank, monk dps fury warrior hunter or wl and heal pally
urban portal
But that's cuz sometimes I let shield block go to press aegis
spare ice
maybe i just lack versatility?
blazing condor
vers dont mean shit
jagged pier
i guarantee your playing wrong
urban portal
Vers isn't even that good of a defensive stat
spare ice
alright i will post logs tomorrow then
blazing condor
urban portal
@ionic fern if you are eating exclusively autos (assuming shield block isn't up), is crit or vers a higher survival up
Crit gives you parry chance right
And it converts into a higher Parry chance than vers converts into dr
ionic fern
Crit is one of the best defensive stats for us in those "nieche" situations. So crit. 🙂
But due to Crit being RNG and only working against melee attacks it's still worse that Vers in almost any real situation.
urban portal
Ok just making sure I understand the tank notes post correct
Vers is 80 per 1%, how many points of crit for 1% of parry?
Just want this for my own future reference
teal swift
Crit is one of the best defensive stats for us in those "nieche" situations. So ...
I like vers stacking If you have access to gladiator gear
jagged pier
honestly remove vers we will all have more fun
ionic fern
Vers is 80 per 1%, how many points of crit for 1% of parry?
35
urban portal
Nvm I got it
blazing condor
vers is just a boring stat
urban portal
According to tank notes it's 39 points/parry
spare ice
vers is just expensive :/
ionic fern
Oh, you were looking for parry.
i thought you were looking for how much crit rating for 1%.
Imagine reading sentences fully.
strong forum
For dps vers is good, but defensively it's beyond overrated.
The only time it mattered was in bfa s4 with full corrupts in 25+ keys
urban portal
Yeah crit rating per 1% parry
ionic fern
urban portal
When you have cringe classes like dh
Where 12% of your damage auto crits and 30% of your damage not affected by mastery
You wish you had vers
urban portal
Is there a fundamental diff between dodge and Parry
teal swift
blazing condor
not really
teal swift
Read this.
blazing condor
parry gives revenj
strong forum
Dodge and parry are the same defensively
ionic fern
39
"Oh, you were looking for parry.
i thought you were looking for how much crit rating for 1%.
Imagine reading sentences fully." 
urban portal
Outside of class interactions ofc
strong forum
For me? Its skimming through a sentence, then assume something vaguely related to the sentence
:nodders:
teal swift
This is all I saw when I replied. My apologies, when I went back up to read the rest I realized it was already corrected.
teal swift
Literally hadnt gotten there yet. :(
ionic fern
For me? Its skimming through a sentence, then assume something vaguely related t...
Same. I just default to the "most asked questions". When i see IP and SB in the same sentence i default my answer to "Don't prioritise IP over SB".
teal swift
Wait, you weren't making fun of me
blazing condor
🧟
strong forum
Same. I just default to the "most asked questions". When i see IP and SB in the ...
Yea same
strong forum
You were mocking yourself
Yes
teal swift
🐌 🧠
blazing condor
we're all zombies but not worth being in skyhold cus aint no brains to eat here
ionic fern
It should be called Ignore Brains not Ignore Pain.
strong forum
I had to think giga hard today how I can recover from yesterday
ocean reef
I had to think giga hard today how I can recover from yesterday
Too much MH farming?
strong forum
I went to my sisters cuz she had her birthday, when I left my bike had a flat tire, so I rode my bike home with a flat tire. Which is exhausting, then I noticed I left my backpack at my sisters with my portmonnaire and my bike pump
teal swift
That and the joy of shorter que times.
I play tank, so when I fuck up mechs
I don't get one shot like I do when dpsing.
gaunt dawn
Is there a fundamental diff between dodge and Parry
Both act the same, however as a STR user your chances of Dodging are diminished based on the level of the attacker. Parry is also diminished but you have supplementary Parry from STR.
strong forum
So it was 1am, I changed my tire on my bike, thinking about how the fuck am I gonna get my backpack back. Can't get money for train cuz no portmonnaire, can't get there with bike cuz no pump to fill it back up
gaunt dawn
When you go above a level 62 attacker, you're not dodging.
(Unless you have some cringe +Dodge Rating gear)
which does exist next tier
gaunt dawn
⏸️
blazing condor
i use shadow resist gear so i can survive in SoD
teal swift
Both act the same, however as a STR user your chances of Dodging are diminished ...
VDH mitigation is pretty good too with it being flat additive parry.
gaunt dawn
nope always been like that
teal swift
In first iteration
ocean reef
https://ptr.wowhead.com/item=188269/pocket-protoforge?bonus=1826
If you dodge you don't have to think about parrying
gaunt dawn
If you dodge you don't have to think about parrying
True
teal swift
Hmm, I owe scar another apology.
teal swift
Apparently I didn't even correctly read it when I was insulting his work to his face.
blazing condor
depends on ur shield
teal swift
Oh well, will let it Lie
We've moved on.
blazing condor
they have different parry frames
ocean reef
I know the small bucklers were the best for it
But I was just too stupid to take time to learn it
Was easier to spam roll instead of learning something new
blazing condor
its true
i would always just use small shields
felt nice
but yeah you gotta learn the bosses as well what you can/cannot parry as well as their swing-timings
ocean reef
Using my brain for more than R1 spam
blazing condor
sounds like dex propaganda to me
blazing condor
thoughtcage kinda coo
blazing condor
its literally free defense stop complaining??????
teal swift
Strong for m+ looks weak for single target
gaunt dawn
depends how long the debuffs lasts for
teal swift
That looks like a 100k damage trinket every 3 minutes
gaunt dawn
p confident those numbers arent final
ocean reef
Would be very surprised if the AoE part doesn't get changed into a scaling AoE
teal swift
That's not even the issue
Single target that shit hits for like 12k 6 times
Before vers and crit LOL
ocean reef
On a 3 min CD
teal swift
Ye
ocean reef
It's not exactly outlandish on that long of a cooldown
teal swift
It's gonna be nice to tank with
Rift shard seems undertuned rn
Obv numbers not final
mighty valley
yeah do not waste any brain time on numbers when gear first goes in
ocean reef
Need to have the numbers ready for the inevitable many questions regarding "Is this good", that'll come
The numbers being "w41t f0r f1n4l tun1ng"
urban portal
Both act the same, however as a STR user your chances of Dodging are diminished ...
Ye I thought so, dodge on something like bear is effectively the same as party on warrior
ocean reef
urban portal
Yo that's 60k hp healing, and big aoe, long cd thi
gaunt dawn
Ye I thought so, dodge on something like bear is effectively the same as party o...
Yeah, if you want more detail on it yuzu linked a page I have explaining it all 🙂
urban portal
Yeah read through the entire thing
I was the one who linked it to yuzu
:)))
Ty
For writing it
It's literally impossible to find wow info
Like the math behind it
Wait
blazing condor
Panthea the true TC
urban portal
Dodge doesn't trigger Barb's while parry will?
Someone on brew discord says they don't take Barb's because of that
teal swift
@gaunt dawn what class you gonna play for this round of prog?
teal swift
My cotank is out monk
I will likely be bdk or pwar
Prolly bdk cause I'm decent at it.
blazing condor
my monk is 200 ilvl
my guild mate made me level a monk to 60 otherwise he wouldnt give me a trinket i needed in cn
gaunt dawn
<@236180096535363584> what class you gonna play for this round of prog?
Monk prison, BDK or Prot Pal
leaning to BDK if im not in prison
teal swift
leaning to BDK if im not in prison
:)
gaunt dawn
I did all of normal testing on BDK
and a couple of mythic bosses
the rest i did on VDH
jagged pier
🤮
teal swift
I like bdk, it just feels smooth to play in raid.
I'm kinda bad tho, so next tier I'ma need help reviewing my logs
T.T
teal swift
I mean I'm already in there
And active
Other than one specific channel, I like this place more.
dawn canyon
I own a doggo but i agree cats are cool
dawn canyon
Dogs are more work for sure
teal swift
They also give better affection
Cats are just wonderful and cute.
Dogs are more family imho
But cats are really nice pets.
dawn canyon
They also give better affection
Cats dont come if you call for them
blazing condor
they do if you replace the "call" with sound of food bowl
teal swift
Cats dont come if you call for them
Mine does
dawn canyon
If you drop anything into the bowl doggo will recognize the Sound and come running
Then you guys have godly cats
teal swift
And she also knows how to sit, rollover, and heel when we're outside.
strong forum
Then you guys have godly cats
They just have a godly owner
blazing condor
♟️
strong forum
teal swift
I've trained My cat. I need to leash train her still
As is I can only take her for a walk in our yard
But she follows directions.
strong forum
I didn't do shit, just exist
teal swift
But need to leash train her.
dawn canyon
You sure you dont have a dog
teal swift
My cat has never scratched a single person.
She's been taught how to be super gentle
Even when playing and excited.
dawn canyon
Very cute
teal swift
Ty
Oh you meant the cat
I'll pass it on to her.
I'm sure she'll appreciate it. I have had long conversations with my cat
dawn canyon
<a:ExcitedBlushette:932414006679973888>
Best Addition to skyhold since him here
dawn canyon
teal swift
Like we'll sir down and talk for like 40 minutes with her looking at me responding with meows
dawn canyon
Ciche todu
teal swift
It's kinda nice
teal swift
<:oldwisetodu:934385748239609856>
U break me hearr
dawn canyon
Like we'll sir down and talk for like 40 minutes with her looking at me respondi...
Very good cat
strong forum
<:oldwisetodu:934385748239609856>
Wtf
teal swift
I don't think she understands
dawn canyon
It's the meow that counts
dawn canyon
☁️
teal swift
☁️ 🕶️
blazing condor
🐶
blazing condor
why
teal swift
Oh yeah wanna see the best default discord emoji
That I still don't know why it exists?
blazing condor
📮
blazing condor
thats where i meet your mom
west walrus
🐮
strong forum
😎 ☁️
teal swift
☁️ 🏩
jagged pier
hairs not wild enough
teal swift
Fr tho
Why is there a love hotel emoji
👩❤️💋👩 this emoji was banned on some mobile game server too...
strong forum
Love hotels
teal swift
🏩
jagged pier
dis Nome
strong forum
Like, it's literally hourly hotel you rent for sex
I know, just like most hotels
teal swift
@jagged pier hey Jakey, I love you boo
jagged pier
👋
teal swift
🤗
I feel ill. But I wanted to say good night to you my friends. You all actuslly mean a lot to me and help me feel better every day. Thanks for existing.
Gn
jagged pier
gn 
dawn canyon
Gn
blazing condor
i say "n" instead of "gn" cus if it was a "gn" i'd be fishing (at night)
teal swift
uncut juniper
Is there an outburst / seeing red Weakaura out there?
strong forum
If you feel really fancy you can make add a condition to shield slam to glow when you have the outburst buff
That's what I'd do, make shieldslam glow red during outburst buff
uncut juniper
yeah why not :3
blazing condor
yeah thats kinda dope
uncut juniper
i even got the spell IDs but im pretty awful at creating WAs even though i know youre right and it might be a simple task 🙈
364006 seeing red
364010 outburst
strong forum
Create template
dawn canyon
Wont work on live yet
uncut juniper
yeah im on the ptr
strong forum
It's the most simple WA to make, I recommended trying to make it yourself
Making WAs is awesome once you get the hang of it
uncut juniper
im not unwilling to do that. totally not. but i dont know where to start :D
dawn canyon
I started by making my skill cooldowns from template and then messed around with the triggers and stuff
uncut juniper
sneaky
dawn canyon
just duplicate an aura and change the trigger spell id
Duplicate group>change load>change auras Tadaaa new spec weakaura KEKW
strong forum
On display you then change the text to %s for seeing red
Outburst doesn't have duration so you don't need any text
uncut juniper
strong forum
The thing that takes the most time for WAs is positioning if you start from scratch
sweet summit
ye 100%
uncut juniper
Thanks for always believing in me guys. i just made my very first clunky weakaura all by myself. stop crying. No you're crying!
uncut juniper
Thanks man. it means sth to me :x
jagged pier
oblique garnet
ionic fern
Probably true. Can't possibly complete a +5 otherwise.
oblique garnet
Why are you signed to +5
ionic fern
Cause i'm pugging and no one will take a 215 DH to anything higher .
jagged pier
Isnt flames doing keys?
oblique garnet
Cause i'm pugging and no one will take a 215 DH to anything higher .
Let me tell you about this great heroic boost for only 200k or something
sick sentinel
jagged pier
sweet summit
:D ead
blazing condor
:DDDD ead hambuger
blazing condor
ilvl or vault?
sick sentinel
id say both but im not sure pretty close id imagine
if there is shield would be awful close to 249 equiped is 247/8 i think?
have to "tuesday morning position my self by vault before reset" right now though
dawn canyon
if there is shield would be awful close to 249 equiped is 247/8 i think?
Shield ilvl = block
Highest Block best
sick sentinel
all i meant was im still stuck with a 242
but its haste whatever, so i aint bitchin
sick sentinel
remember guys: its the player not the gear
im 248 and i fucked up a 14 pf and got a druid meleed by not being in range on PF final, trying to charge
dawn canyon
I beg you to get a weakaura between your Player and target frame
sick sentinel
thats with demo button, but is all the ones
(the long icon row ones in middle/bottom aren't always active)
dawn canyon
Id maybe put the bottom ones in a more visible area
Imo a fat rage Bar in the middle could help but that isnt a bad start
sick sentinel
i was going to run the 15 after cuz we were going to time it, just, yogi things happen
ocean reef
I do wonder why your general dungeon WA is all the way at the bottom
And your general skills over to the left
sick sentinel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZqPPtGjn0A Plaguefail 🙂
dawn canyon
That's a good weakaura
blazing condor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZqPPtGjn0A Plaguefail 🙂
did u guys know if you don't know boss-mechanics you die to the boss
sick sentinel
you die to the boss if you do know mechanics and don't do them
or RNG
bad timing
maybe the healers having a hard time getting mana back or the rogue died to a cleave because he got aggro after a giga ambush
blazing condor
first wipe was just the tank not being a tank
rest is just people being bad but its okay as long as people have fun 🙂
so no hate
sick sentinel
thats the attitude i wish blizzard had towards the big 3 forms of content
it's okay as long as people are having fun
blazing condor
yeah its kinda crazy
jagged pier
as an average player doesnt even do m+
blazing condor
its a good reality check
easy to always just assume most people play like you do yourself
for me thats like 3/10m and 2,3k rating which isn't even anything
jagged pier
well its when ppl say KSM is ez
and its like top 10% of chars that have a run a m+ have it
jagged pier
both u can buy
sick sentinel
and its that circle jerk of them running together in lots of cases
teal swift
Incant fucking sleep
jagged pier
YUZU GOT TO BED
teal swift
I'ma try again but jfc
blazing condor
bye yuzu
sick sentinel
so, you have to get in the circle jerk or buy it from houkulan or whatever
teal swift
Shoot me in the face, I need sleep it's 630am
jagged pier
then get off your phone
blazing condor
ive only pugged my ksm's
teal swift
YUZU GOT TO BED
love you gn
sick sentinel
it doesn't always help
but it can make the difference between timing a +10 and +15
sick sentinel
having pepega's as guild mates and running it casual
thats the effect i've seen with normal every day players
ocean reef
@jagged pier don't you run keys with Erga
blazing condor
not even part of the SF clique yet
im just there to get laughed at
ocean reef
Where he does questionable things
blazing condor
but that counts as well....right
ocean reef
And plays unethically
jagged pier
<@179993058186625025> don't you run keys with Erga
i have a few times, ive been in a key with @sweet summit lock thats something u dont want to do
but skyhold weeklies are where its at
sweet summit
ocean reef
ocean reef
ErgaWL with BaneziProt
blazing condor
none of the keys ive ran with Erga has been "good"
ocean reef
Is where dreams go to die
blazing condor
oblique garnet
Erga is washed up
oblique garnet
When key
sweet summit
i'm boosting tonight
blazing condor
ur boosted every night
sweet summit
o
strong forum
That makes so much more sense
oblique garnet
Nvm not gonna do keys this week its sanguine
blazing condor
im hating cus i ainting
strong forum
Nvm not gonna do keys this week its sanguine
Bro you say that about every affix
jagged pier
i'm boosting tonight <:dander:905248880910815302>
need anyone could use gold
oblique garnet
Bro you say that about every affix <a:keksquad:766690598635044895>
Nah just sanguine
oblique garnet
Grievious is irrelevant and so is necrotic
jagged pier
TRUE
oblique garnet
And i thought they removed bolstering
oblique garnet
Oh that sounds like fun
sweet summit
we're pretty stacked sry jakey
jagged pier
we're pretty stacked sry jakey
strong forum
jagged pier
https://gyazo.com/c1286241d3e2ac312992ed5f8b148f08
not good for skyhold weeklies none of use can hit explosives
im out
blazing condor
explosives are irrelevant
sick sentinel
And necrotic
oblique garnet
This is lies
sick sentinel
the way you listed them reminded me of this shit post
strong forum
No matter if the affixes are, necrotic, sanguine, bolstering or grievous. Tyrannical fortified or storming I am not playing! - Barack 'Late' Obama
strong forum
Can't believe it
oblique garnet
No matter if the affixes are, necrotic, sanguine, bolstering or grievous. Tyrann...
I did play on necrotic
I just dont enjoy sanguine
sick sentinel
@strong forum @oblique garnet
oblique garnet
You may have played, but you did skip skyhold weekly multiple times because of i...
No i have skipped skyhold weeklies because either you are doing them during raid hours or im sleeping
blazing condor
so skip raid???
jagged pier
I just dont enjoy sanguine
cant stand still for stand still power
blazing condor
siegebreaker is bis in skyhold weeklies tbh
self proclaimed "free thinkers" when the revenge button lights up
Dunno what u talking about
Well except for dead people trying to be smuggled over the border
Thats what ive heard from canada
sick sentinel
trucker crap, its affecting alot of people, i'll leave it at that
strong forum
Did someone get banned mid conversation?
sick sentinel
nope, i just removed it
strong forum
Ah
primal crypt
is prot warr viable yet?
blazing condor
No try again next xpac
primal crypt
that's what I thought
primal crypt
Yamo still alive
strong forum
Checking
primal crypt
I was guild hunting, told them I wanted to play prot and got declined
jagged pier
I was guild hunting, told them I wanted to play prot and got declined
we strong next tier guild is bad
but then again all tanks are strong
🤷
primal crypt
Yeah, tanks are playing really well is what I've heard
still threat issues from what I hear
blazing condor
Never had threat issues
strong forum
Next season threat issues will be a thing again
jagged pier
but with full 4 set can see there might be issues when a WW bursts like 1mil dps
mellow bridge
WW first needs a tierset that actually works for that kekw
strong forum
Yea 9.2 is gonna be rippy
jagged pier
Next season threat issues will be a thing again
nah they'll just up threat by 100% for tanks again
sick sentinel
its not that Pwar is a dead spec its like playing on nighmare mode on doom as opposed to hurt me plenty on a paladin or DH say
primal crypt
Fury warrior might as well just start on the floor
jagged pier
nah give us big buff drop it down at the start of next expansion make more ppl complain
sick sentinel
we can do all the same shit, but its just way worse for us in every regard
primal crypt
we have spell reflect
primal crypt
fawk em
west walrus
primal crypt
I like warrior because I never kite
either I stand there and take the hits or just die
Save me shield block
blazing condor
Monk just vivify me
sick sentinel
i have cow stomp
primal crypt
monk....
west walrus
Dying is always a damage output issue
sick sentinel
so i don't have to worry about dps not stunning shit for me
shit always on me as tank anyways
so just pop it any time i get scurrd
primal crypt
Dying is always a damage output issue <:okayge:917646812519739433>
this
sick sentinel
or to reset a reflecty boi
blazing condor
We keep him fed Dont worry
primal crypt
good, he likes the canned stuff
true bridge
yoyo I havea question regarding builds, so Im not an experienced prot warrior and therefor i decided to run with The Wall leggo, does this make anger management better than HR?
sick sentinel
was thinking i was going to charge her, and then i couldnt to close or something walked out to get charge, something happened tey got meleed
jagged pier
AM is better for dps and magic damage regardless of leggo
sick sentinel
saw it happen and was super furious
true bridge
ohh
jagged pier
yoyo I havea question regarding builds, so Im not an experienced prot warrior an...
u also dont need HR is you are running repisal
u should in general always be running AM
for any content
if u want more block with the wall u run bolster
sick sentinel
pmuch
jagged pier
it is only made good with reprisal
sweet summit
^
true bridge
ahh
jagged pier
and it gives u that extra % of blocked hits which u dont need unless your doing 25s
sick sentinel
and even if it was good, the 9.2 set bonus makes AM the default only pick in that row
true bridge
yea im not xD
jagged pier
and by extra like 10% extra if your play rep correctly
sick sentinel
UF trash
true bridge
ok
sick sentinel
its either ITF raid or rav cleave