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outer solstice
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oh I know

teal swift
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If you're on na gimme free boost

outer solstice
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I'm a cat in raid

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I only tank for boosts xD

teal swift
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Sadge

outer solstice
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and I'm EU, sorry

urban portal
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P1 is not losable in sire

teal swift
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Sasge

outer solstice
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oh it is @urban portal

teal swift
urban portal
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But in pugs you can lose like 3 people

teal swift
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LOL

urban portal
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For sylv

outer solstice
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or if you have too much DPS xD

teal swift
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I've wiped p1 sire heroic many times LOL

urban portal
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Yeah at the end I just soaked everything

teal swift
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Actual fucking apes not managing stacks

outer solstice
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for sire the craziest setup we did was 10:10 (10 boosters, 10 buyer) we can take even more for sylvi

urban portal
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At the end there was this one guy called smashval running 10 sires a day

outer solstice
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only?

urban portal
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Like you just join his discord

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And he gives you free aotc

outer solstice
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we managed 24 kills in a 4 hour shift 😛 hehe

urban portal
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Yeah but y'all cost money

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He's just a streamer

outer solstice
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yeah I still helped out in the free ones though

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like discodiddy

urban portal
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But sylv isn't hard with an organized group

teal swift
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@outer solstice I'm thankful I can earn my own aotcs

urban portal
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Bitch is dying before lust is coming back sometimes

teal swift
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Even if I buy then for loot lmao

urban portal
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Actually that reminds me

outer solstice
urban portal
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Sire p2 was so jank

outer solstice
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oO why?

urban portal
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Anyone who lists in p2 is so cringe

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Lusts

outer solstice
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nah

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skip dem adds

urban portal
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When you phase into p3 with adds up

teal swift
outer solstice
urban portal
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Nothing is as powerful as heroic huntsman tho

teal swift
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For some reason all my grey parses are missing

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From the carriea

urban portal
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Mythic huntsman singlehandedly stopped pugs from getting first 3m

teal swift
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Like all my carry logs are gone lmao

urban portal
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Hungering destroyer wasn't easy either but not too hard

teal swift
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I'm fine with it, but weird

teal swift
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Z

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We couldn't really kill hungering

urban portal
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Pugging huntsman is not doable

outer solstice
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huntsman was a fun fight 🙂

urban portal
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Both heroic and mythic

outer solstice
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lol

teal swift
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Huntsman was a very fun fight to tank

outer solstice
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especially for padding 😛

urban portal
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Walk the dog

teal swift
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But yeah, idk what happened to all my grey parses from being carried when I main swapped.

urban portal
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But anyways hungering was such a healing intensive fight

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But I liked it

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This tiers eye is still terrorizing pugs tho

teal swift
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I'm really proud of my heroic parses this season.

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@outer solstice plz notice me and give me attention for being above average tank 🥺

outer solstice
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you are 😛 hahaha xD

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some CN hc

teal swift
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Rip sludgefist

urban portal
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I wish I could get into boosts

teal swift
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Parsing makes me so happy

urban portal
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It seems like such an easy way to parse

teal swift
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I'm glad you're also a parsw hero

outer solstice
urban portal
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We're u nf or venth

outer solstice
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nf

urban portal
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Sludgefist cringe fight

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Hungering good fight

teal swift
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Lemme add you Incase I ever need some help with log review

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You're clearly splid

urban portal
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Yuzu

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Did you see the 100k hps bdk

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On eue

outer solstice
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nah I have warriorbrain

urban portal
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Eye

teal swift
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Lmao, was it eye fight?

urban portal
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Ye

teal swift
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Yeah that fight is dumb

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Infinite damage cycling

urban portal
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It's lit

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I can't believe they cleared it with 12 deaths

teal swift
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Lmaoooo

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I can't believe. He convinced his raid

urban portal
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That log is a rollercoaster

teal swift
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To feed him that hps parae

outer solstice
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SoD warrior healing is OP:

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oh wait that's just blood set shrug

urban portal
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Venth blood set

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Is how you get 100s

outer solstice
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also don't forget the frost shard

urban portal
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Ofc

teal swift
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I'ma be real idgaf about hps parses

outer solstice
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yeah they are a meme xD

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but you see I swapped guild after guardian and now I have healers that can keep me alive so I can run unholy without dying from rrandom stuff

teal swift
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We overheal most content

outer solstice
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so what are your plans for 9.2 ? glory ? EM ?

teal swift
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EM on my warrior

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EM + Reprisal + crit stacking

outer solstice
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crit stacking is a trap for defense

teal swift
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Spear feels sooooo good to hit

outer solstice
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watch out if you do myhtic raids

teal swift
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Crit stacking for m+ for em

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I don't raid on warrior anymore

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Healer core couldn't keep me alive on eye

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So I swapped to bdk LOL

outer solstice
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oO

hybrid forge
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ideally what stats should i target for m+? i main fury/arms but wanna play a bit of prot for fun

outer solstice
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yeah eye smashes, but I guess it's mostly because you didn't have enough melee

hybrid forge
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high haste right?

hybrid forge
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im essentially bis so its just a matter of changing out items for better stat prio

outer solstice
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just use your fury set

hybrid forge
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i was about to ask that

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im like 25% haste + ows and about 45% mastery

urban portal
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Mastery is cringe

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But it's fine if you are new to prot

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It gives you leeway with shield blocks

outer solstice
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that's a lot of mastery ^^

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I'm at 49% with itf ^^

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49% haste

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and that's actually lower than I used to have xD

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so which soulbind are y'all running with necrolord atm? any preferences?

jagged pier
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its eminem in m+

outer solstice
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yeah the pustles seem strong 😛

teal swift
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@jagged pier xoxo

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Hi bb

jagged pier
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morning

teal swift
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How are you today

jagged pier
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tired yourself?

teal swift
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Tired

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It's 3am

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T.T

jagged pier
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perfect time for bedge

teal swift
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Sleep is haed

jagged pier
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true

blazing condor
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ive never had problems falling asleep before but now for the past two weeks i havent been able to

sick sentinel
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are you boomer age yet?

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35 +

blazing condor
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nah im young asf

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a promising youngster with the possibility of a great career behind me

sick sentinel
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cuz, don't fuckin worry, when you get old like that you just start to fall asleep almost at random, but in a predictable way

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every night feel my self physically and mentally dragging my self to bed to b asleep for some set time

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say, 10 pm, and so i'll pack it all up by 9:30 pm at the very latest start telling myself have to go to bed soon, hurry the game up at 9pm

blazing condor
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idk ive kinda flipped the day a bit

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staying up late and waking up late

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so obviously im gonna have a hard time falling asleep if i go to bed earlier at a more reasonable itme

sick sentinel
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its not a bad thing at all if you are waking up at night and doing activities during the night

blazing condor
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i sleep like a baby

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im knocked tf out once i fall asleep

sick sentinel
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NOBODY doesn't want a night gaurdsman who likes to stay up and protect tribe

blazing condor
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well im not living with a tribe in the fuckin jungle

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im alone in my own apt hating myself okayge

sick sentinel
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scarier at night and thats when all the crawlies and stalkers come out

sick sentinel
silent sparrow
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noob here, is it worth it to cast ignore pain?

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that may be a dumb question. but it doesn't feel great to me so just making sure

blazing condor
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Exception is when you take pretty much pure magic damage and need to mitigate that. Since shield block doesnt mitigate magic damage Ignore Pain becomes your main mitigation then

silent sparrow
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and that's better overall than using the rage on devastate trying to get shield slam resets and reduce the cd of shield block? perhaps I don't understand that right

mellow bridge
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devastate doesnt cost rage

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and neither should you even be playing that

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you run devastator which replaces devastate

blazing condor
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Most of the time the correct play is to dump rage on Revenge

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As far as ”correct” can go its more about preference

mellow bridge
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oh and SS doesnt reduce the CD of SB

silent sparrow
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okay yeah I'm all sorts of messed up clearly

mellow bridge
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you should prolly take a look at one of the guides

blazing condor
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Revenge should (in my opinion) be used to dump rage and you only dump rage into IP when you feel like youd need the survivability

silent sparrow
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wait

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yes revenge

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I think I meant to say revenge. In any case thanks for the info

mellow bridge
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revenge is your offensive rage dump, IP is your defensive rage dump

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IP is off gcd however which makes it more flexible to dump with in e.g. your opener where you generate a lot of rage very quickly

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IP by itself is pretty meh but it can help out in smoothing out your dmg intake

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be careful that you cant stack several IPs tho, it has a cap

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a WA can be helpful for that

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revenge on the other hand is your major AoE damage ability and should be used very often

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(oh and any rage generated that ends up being wasted because youre already at 100, is better spent on IP even if it's weak)

silent sparrow
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okay got it thanks

blazing condor
mellow bridge
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no problem

deft hinge
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i just came from a twitch stream were palbrew talked about how weak prot warriors are atm, makes me sad to see it up as discussion when prot warrior is the only thing i like playing in this game. maybe im lettin it get to me i dont know

blazing condor
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the players general view on warrior is always that they are dogshit bad

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except for in 8.3

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its undoubtably the least popular tank and most people consider it trash when tank balance has been probably the best its been for a long long time this expac

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so people just dont know 🤷‍♂️

mellow bridge
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for extremely high keys it's probably straight up worse than any other tank

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but being worse doesnt make it shit

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the gap is small and for 99% of players it's basically non existant

blazing condor
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^

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same way you dont bring a specific spec or class to top keys either

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its not just a pwarr thing

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this is the highest keys done as a pwarr right now

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if you dont do these levels then play whatever you want

mellow bridge
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like if pally and druid are the 10/10 tanks

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then dk and vdh are probably the 9/10 tanks and pwarr is the 8.5/10 tank

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still really good

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(obv random ass numbers, just as an example)

solid granite
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If you're doing 25's and up, your class of choice matters. But with 25 and up keys, you're already part of the top 1% and would just play whatever is the best anyway. Anything below that, it doesn't matter at all

fading dirge
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My group must be trash, cause wicked bolts on a 20 eat my face on fortified in HOA

jagged pier
strong forum
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also gotta keep in mind that palbrew (the current #1 brew) is also talking probably talking about the absolute peak of wows gameplay difficulty

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which are r1 keys

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and the higher up you go, the bigger even the smallest differences are

west walrus
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Pwar is also more dependent of the group.
I remember being considered a "shitty tank" while dying because no cuts were done

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Spell reflecting has its limits ^^

strong forum
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and im almost certain in saying this, but i reckon if andy really wanted to, he could get 3k+ score on his pwar in 2 weeks

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just look at season 1

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he only pushed for 1 week on pwar and ended at top10 of ALL tanks

jagged pier
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Nah prot bad

lime urchin
mellow bridge
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he probably could

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but he said himself that he tried warr on TR in preparation for TGP and it just felt worse than pally

blazing condor
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I memebr in s1 when Nerf said ”fuck it” and pushed up his like 213ilvl gearer warrior

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Not even an issue in the slightest

ionic fern
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You guys make it sound like the most important thing in high keys is having a consistent group who are well versed in communication/dungeon/class knowledge.

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Wild.

dawn canyon
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one thing to be aware of: palbrews POV is very different from most

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since he plays TGP MDI and stuff

mellow bridge
jagged pier
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why did i log in theres nothing to do

sweet summit
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love farming rift

mellow bridge
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i feel you

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sitting in tool rn, looking at all those keys i dont wanna do cuz it's bolstering

sick sentinel
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dunno who palbrew is

dawn canyon
naive mauve
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Necrolords in 9.2 meta?
Also for +20 key people or only for high keys?

patent osprey
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In reality for majority of gameplay all thr tanks are relatively close like you guys said. But at the highest levels within that 0.1% it feels like a big difference even though it technically is small but being able to survive 1 key level higher is actually a big difference to the 0.1%

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so yes all tanks are relatively close for majority of content, we are by far the weakest tank at the 0.1% level because unlike alot of other groups, the limit of a key level may not always be speed/damage but ability to survive.

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Yes if andybrew picked up prot war to push keys he probably would be 3k in record speed but he probably wouldn't be 3.15k io

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probably be 3.05k

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that's just my own perspective though ^.^

west walrus
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Sensei spoke

lofty widget
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what's the safe time to pull soggodon with quaking?

stable valve
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Plka how does necro prot war feel on ptr right now?

west walrus
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Same for Varruth (fear timer)

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No need to rush, you have a few seconds to pull

jagged pier
patent osprey
# stable valve Plka how does necro prot war feel on ptr right now?

Necro prot is very spammy but its fun. I will personally use it in some dungeons as it add survivability through fleshcraft which is what prot war really needs against high magic dam but if there's any downtime between pulls like RP angels in spires or even back tracking like in TOP, banner won't be 100% uptime. So probably still play other covs in m+. In raid though it's pretty solid but you offtank and melee healers soak up the mastery buff quite often

thorn remnant
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did anyone get close to perma banner on ptr like the wowhead post said? i was miles off

jagged pier
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lots of ppl have

patent osprey
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it's Hella degen though to keep it up 100% of the time

thorn remnant
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i tried it on a dummy so i wasnt hit, but still

patent osprey
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u don't need to be hit for 100% uptime

thorn remnant
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then i must be doing something very wrong

patent osprey
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but u NEED booming voice

next copper
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Seems like a good tradeoff to have the uptime.

patent osprey
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make sure ur spamming SB + IP with revenges

strong forum
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llarold had 17apm of both IP and Revenge

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to get that uptime

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so yeah

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IP was his most used button

jagged pier
strong forum
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well yuh

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but point still stands

patent osprey
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it's Hella degen in keys cause u can't have downtime between pulls u have to just chain pull.No time for healer to drink

strong forum
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thing is tho right

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you dont need the 100% uptime in m+

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cuz youll just recast when you know you can keep it up for a while

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atleast thats what im thinking

patent osprey
patent osprey
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cause it dies anytime ur not in constant combat with something to hit

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so that in combination to wanting to use banner with your dps's cds, yeah nto great feeling

strong forum
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ya

thorn remnant
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is there a vid anywhere out there of somewhat doing it, i feel legit stupid

ionic fern
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Idk, you can stream on discord and we can tell you if you want.

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Probably not pressing buttons enough.

thorn remnant
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would be very kind of you

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am on general voice @ionic fern

patent osprey
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my vod 2 days ago has me doing all the testing

patent osprey
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at like the 4 hour mark

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I'm figuring it out and then testing different ways

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and then degening a key with it

thorn remnant
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@patent osprey ty very much

teal swift
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@jagged pier @strong forum @ocean reef @sweet summit morning friends. huggies

jagged pier
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👋

last vessel
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going for aegis or blood scale for m+? doing roughly 20+- keys

lofty widget
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aegis

last vessel
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it's all around better for defense and offense?

strong forum
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aegis better defensively

teal swift
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Aegis is insanely good defensively.

lofty widget
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if you want offensive youd probably run something other than either of those 2 trinkets

chilly brook
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Scale=capped mitigation

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Or rather it's a capped absorb

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Whereas aegis has no limit on the amount of damage it can nullify in the time period that the buff is up

blazing condor
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Aegis is 8 seconds of mitigation

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Scale is X amount

waxen orbit
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Just had a holy priest confused as to why I died on a fort bolstered 23 trash pack when they wasted GS on pull while I had literally everything to keep me alive

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2700 btw lol

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How does someone make it to 2700 without knowing how to heal a tank

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Actually fucking mindboggling

jagged pier
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u dont need to heal a bear

urban portal
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but its only plate

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so its prot pal kingdom

waxen orbit
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They said "I just need to keep you alive at the start of the pull"

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Checked their keys

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All guardian druid keys

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Checks out dander

west walrus
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8 seconds of infinite absorb, works against DoT yep

mellow bridge
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every time a class isnt meta, people somehow forget what it does

waxen orbit
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It's called being bad

teal swift
blazing condor
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Freddy fazfrank

chilly brook
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But tldr he doesn't understand anything other than bear

urban portal
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I would say it's both

sick sentinel
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is it more that arms is just easier to play than fury?

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i think most dps warriors i see are arms

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i was playing meme fury necro in lfr something to do

urban portal
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No

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Fotm

sick sentinel
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trying some cursed fury stuff

dusky mica
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for what?

urban portal
blazing condor
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Arms is imo easy to be good at

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Just not any real skill difference in it

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What seperates the good ones from the worse ones isnt that much

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Just procs

sick sentinel
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got the LFR glory trinket LOL

dusky mica
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Ruthless Warlord's Barrier. Never dropped that before.

sick sentinel
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didnt even know, i think someone tried to trade me to get it

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only 213, but i can try it at least and its haste

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somebody traded me after one of the bosses i killed anyway

dawn canyon
urban portal
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Good players don't need WA

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And don't you see his ehp wa

dawn canyon
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Oh ya

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Guess he's using wa

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I just dont think i could tell what i can press with my Bars in that way

soft loom
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whats the go to kyrian soulbind for keys

distant crystal
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Mik

sick sentinel
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Pins

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Check em

crude notch
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Mik is less letters than pins check em

pine lotus
analog radish
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Is the tank trinket from Taza'vesh any good? Someone said it's alright but I think they were confusing it with the Reactive Defensive Matrix from the raid.

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I have it.

urban portal
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and for melee hits no tank would struggle

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except vdh

urban portal
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much better vs blood dk

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with

mighty valley
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Tanked a guild alt run and switched to necro to start getting renown

analog radish
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soon we will all be necro

mighty valley
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I was running late so I didn't do the intro quest, so I just didn't have cov abilities or soulbinds lol

urban portal
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That's too powerful

teal swift
analog radish
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Thanks guys, looks like I wasted my time getting it lmao

red dock
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Is Anger Management the go to with tier set?

urban portal
teal swift
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I need a hug :(

oblique hedge
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Ya, anger management is great for weekly 15s 😛

halcyon crest
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heyo all
Is there such a thing as too much haste as prot warr? I´m currently sitting at 35%

icy kestrel
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Anyone tried heavy repercussions or the wall in PTR, rage gen from 2pc looks bugged to me

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I get 53 for outburst proc instead of 69 (using both)

blazing condor
icy kestrel
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My guess is it is taking normal slam for 23 and then two untalented for 15 each

blazing condor
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and other stats become better at that point

cold zealot
blazing condor
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yeah youre right

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i meant the loss beceomes too much at 40 like you say

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mb mb

teal swift
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@blazing condor I still need a hug

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Gimme hug fren

teal swift
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Tyyy

teal swift
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▶ Play video
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So, remember you can stick your KT sword in a microwave 😄

ionic fern
bleak comet
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I'm not a prot warr

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just curious, does extending the necrolord banner for prot

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extend it for the 2nd player whom gets banner buff also?

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since you buff yourself with banner and an ally

ionic fern
gray iris
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hey guys, if you lose 3-4 enemies as a threat, what do you guys normally do?

oblique garnet
west walrus
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Thunderclap

oblique garnet
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If you lose threat as a warrior youre generally not pressing right buttons

gray iris
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im 210ilvl... i do charge, sob, ravager and then press revenge and clap\

west walrus
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You should use revenge sooner as it triggers deep wounds

gray iris
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oh okay... thanks im new to tanking

west walrus
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If you play with reprisal then after your charge you have a free revenge

gray iris
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yeah i gotta get legendary..

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also do you always have shield block on cd?

dawn canyon
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Depends on the mobs

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If you are facing casters only it's not worth using it

gray iris
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okay...

sick sentinel
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That's how you really get that effect to work to full potential

blazing condor
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If its a prio mob you could also cast taunt on it to ensure you generate enough threat but you shouldnt need it at all

gray iris
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oh okay thanks.. but if im pulling 2-3 packs then what? Wait for them to band together and then go for ravager?

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this is where i normally lose threat

blazing condor
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Any good dps that is aware youre pulling more should wait until you gather them up anyway

dawn canyon
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Feel free to tell them that in chat okayge

blazing condor
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Personally i sometimes pre rav one pack then just quickly round the others up through taunts/heroic throws/leaps

gray iris
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okay thanks guys..that makes sense

blazing condor
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I think i mostly rav last when theyre all piled up

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Havent really thought about it

dawn canyon
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I can also greatly recommend watching someone like plka do a key to get an idea how they do it

gray iris
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okay will look into it xd

blazing condor
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NW first pull they always pull big and many packs

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So you can look at that if you want specific pulls

steel mist
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Should I start doing necrolord covenant campaign since that banner uptime looks good for raiding

sick sentinel
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shame there is no good normal player POV of prot warrior

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players who can do a normal, maybe heroic raid, and 15's to 17's

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I get really annoyed how there are 4 different versions of a dungeon now, normal, heroic, mythic, and then mythic+ but on top of that as well, you also have different levels of keys, and those have to be pulled a certain way too because enemies are too strong or not strong enough.
then you have to also contend with the +10 affix and later +20 affix of "does everyone have grear/brain/microphone", and so you got like 10 friggin routes you have to know for 1 dungeon,
the geometry changes and enemy count placements, the bosses don't do certain abilities on normal, thats fine but they literal fall over to weird smelling farts or pose a challenge

dawn canyon
sick sentinel
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plz design all of the dungeon difficulties to be more or less literal fucking identical blizzard

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like in PF normal there is a place in that map that i can geometry over a wall, that i cannot in mythic mode

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and different enemy types and placements are present so if i'm new player and transition to m+ i'll get confused because it wasn't like that as i was leveling

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it just pisses me off that its not constant and then expected to learn it

mellow bridge
mellow bridge
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I dont remember any differences like that

left temple
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PF has some fairly small differences

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The giant guy that you’d pull with the first 3 mushroom pack isn’t there, instead he’s in the doorway where the first tormentor is

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Idk the map geometry thing, that one sounds like it isn’t useful anyways

sick sentinel
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PF normal before first boss

#

something is different about the layout of the trash and there is a giant goop golem standing infront instead

#

thats the premium example that instantly comes to mind

#

normal mode you can traverse red extremely easily

#

i was researching methods of how to skip with invis solo on normal found out this isn't consistent by accident

lime urchin
#

Do research in m0

sick sentinel
#

PF fort is usually a hard avoid for me like DOS becuase, there is (essentially not literal) 1-2shot mobs at the dead start of the dungeon, a bit a problem in NW but havent seen that in ages

lime urchin
#

You complain about such mundane things in this game, I don’t know man..

sick sentinel
#

been attempting fury as memespec tbh maybe rogue or mage

mellow bridge
#

that green guy is there because he starts walking once the dungeon starts

dawn canyon
#

how are you liking dps

mellow bridge
#

which is instantly when you enter on e.g. normal

#

but only after the countdown in m+ so you can squeeze by him

sick sentinel
#

ehh it wasn't very good, i did like -2/max from lfr and then best dps i saw on a boss was like uhhh, i want to say 5400dps

#

i'm doing memespec though, ain't got signet

dawn canyon
#

dont tell me you are playing glory

sick sentinel
#

don't got the NF or venth leggo, literal waste of gold sorta, to craft

#

would be best suited to level one of those heard NF is bad for arms venth good for arms/fury

#

so, it's whenver i get my lazy ass to farm torghast

mellow bridge
#

you can play both of those specs as kyrian

dawn canyon
sick sentinel
#

yeah signet seems to be best

#

some arms player convinced himself he was a 1h+shield dps with signet remember

blazing condor
#

Signet is kinda ass to play imo

#

Too much rng management

scenic path
#

Anyone have any idea if we’re gonna need covenant campaign or korthia campaign done to progress in the 9.2 campaign? I only finished one covenant on one toon at the beginning of SL and didn’t for any of the others

sturdy sable
#

You just cancel blade storms in ST

#

You dont "manage" avatar or reck

#

Just macro cancel blade storm into vic rush

sweet summit
strong forum
#

Not for Story progress

#

If you wanna unlock other soulbinds in other covs tho you'll need to do the cov campaign

scenic path
#

If necrolord is looking strong with tier set + leggo synergy, it’s still probably a case-by-case basis for usage right? Like at times for different affixes/group comp/dungeons in m+ it may still better to swap to kyrian for the spears rooting effect… or are people thinking the mastery buff is OP enough to always run it?

safe thistle
#

if your not in pug managing the mastery buff on some good mastery stacking class could be very good pwar necro with ret pally gonna be a good duo to synergy

strong forum
#

kyrian will be better than necro in most cases in keys

waxen orbit
blazing condor
#

Just gotta juggle covs between raid and m+

#

Not too hard

sick sentinel
#

dissapoint that AM fury only reset 1 thing

lofty widget
#

how is fatescribe mythic for prot?

jagged pier
#

its fine

teal swift
#

@jagged pier @strong forum @blazing condor @sweet summit morning

huggies

sweet summit
#

gm okayge

strong forum
#

gm

teal swift
#

How are you all today?

strong forum
#

very monhun

blazing condor
#

peepoHappy wave

#

im okayge how are you?

jagged pier
#

gm

sick sentinel
#

ebenig

teal swift
#

Ily all

sick sentinel
#

if people are putting in there torghasts "fast" does that mean we are trying to avoid addy vaults

ionic fern
#

Ask them?

#

🤔

sick sentinel
#

i got that anyways, and shaman was complaining lol, all that for 10 extra tower points running 9's for currency

waxen orbit
#

Testing out the BDK and VDH tier sets on PTR

sick sentinel
#

okay, i have a 262 ring i was going to craft it into a signet haste crit

#

i have EM but its 235

waxen orbit
#

Boost up your EM

#

Signet is only useful if you're running NF fury

sand pebble
sick sentinel
#

its done and signet is crafted anyway, looking at making a few random dps ones

spark scroll
#

any bored tanks want in a quick H Sylv kill? strong grp of buds who are 9/10M just cant find a tank in LFG -- queue up US Horde "Sylv need tank"

woven lance
#

Any consensus on 9.2 m+ cov? Necro vs. kyr vs. NF?

teal swift
#

When 9.2 is finalized we can answer @woven lance

modern brook
#

Necro is funny and cool

#

Kyr is fatty damage

#

Nf is fatty damage

#

U really can't go rong

#

Necro is getting Hella hyped cause a) it's good and b) qere finally allowed to play it after 2 years

#

But tbh raw spear damage probably still wins out

remote dawn
#

guys, hiw looks the war tank in 9.2? good?

teal swift
#

You know as much as we do.

#

Once ptr is finished we'll know.

hollow trellis
#

hey guys, Im going crazy cause I cant find an answer from googling... sometimes when I cast a spell a purple half circle shoots out, any idea what it could be?

proven breach
#

Weapon enchant

hollow trellis
#

oh my god, it could be lightless force?

acoustic root
#

Yes

wild bronze
#

Lightless force

proven breach
#

Yup

acoustic root
#

😀

hollow trellis
#

omfg

#

thank you very much

#

you have no idea how many variations of "warrior shoots out purple animation world of warcraft" I've tried googling

teal swift
#

:kekw:

#

Fair enough

waxen orbit
#

But maybe Blizz will change it or nerf other tanks to make us level with them

flint wraith
#

When you extend duration on banner does the mates also get the masterybuff for longer?

#

or only "my" kinda benefit?

waxen orbit
#

Nope

#

Just you

jagged pier
mighty valley
#

thank you

#

the whining is killing me

jagged pier
#

?

mighty valley
#

sorry, every time someone says "how is warrior looking" someone says "worst tank, awful, miserable"

#

when the balance is fine, you just have to work a little

sand pebble
#

warrior = jack of all trades master of none

#

its good at everything

ionic fern
jagged pier
jagged pier
mighty valley
#

yeah, as if the entire raid/key happens during incarn

jagged pier
#

i mean there is a skill to bear with the shapeshifting but like 99% of u guys dont do it @mortal brook member the MT tower, i do all thoughs ppl refusing to boomkin because 'thats not what bear do'

mortal brook
#

Or worse the people that didn't do bear stuff when they should have

#

And wondering why they had 17 infernals

#

Kekw

mortal brook
#

like any tank, low floor high ceiling

jagged pier
#

☝️

#

but my point is youll have to start playing the high ceiling of prot a long time before the high ceiling of bear

teal swift
#

Or you can play bdk

#

And play from Antarctica

mortal brook
#

What's the ping for Antarctica

teal swift
#

Idk, doesn't matter you're a bdk

blazing condor
#

if you play in antarctica you're insta-locked to play frost

teal swift
#

I'm a vulpera, even tho literally desert fox

#

I'm warm in my METAL armor

#

In northrend, plate should've had a debuff

mortal brook
#

Oh while im here

#

Eyir sucks

gilded tendonBOT
#

fuk u @mortal brook

jagged pier
#

😮

mortal brook
#

Nice

teal swift
#

@mortal brook gimme hug

#

While ur here

mortal brook
#

I don't have the emote access

teal swift
#

Although I'll prolly see you in the other 2 discords

#

This one is here

#

I am a huge supporter of playing the tank that you enjoy the most. All 6 are always ce viable.

#

Unless you're going for bleeding edge wf etc

#

But that's like 20 tanks in the world.

#

Just play what makes you happiest. You'll be more inclined to practice and research than something you hate

mortal brook
#

You guys are happy?

mighty valley
#

I'm happy

ionic fern
blazing condor
#

hateful mwahi sadge

ionic fern
#

Imagine

Being fury
Running EM
Boss in Execute phase
Drop spear
Bear tank runs away to boomkin convoke

autumn pendant
#

That tank deserves severe punishment

blazing condor
#

id be hateful

autumn pendant
#

or maybe

#

furious

blazing condor
#

🥁

prisma dove
#

hi! new to prot, made the wall and reprisal. The reprisal usage looks a bit complicated for me, atleast I couldn't get it to a level of passive rotation, more like "oh, i forgot i could charge/intervene, lets do this now"; which sometimes lead to turning back to mobs and dying. So I've got some questions here and there:

  1. what is the cap on shield block buff time, should I worry about it?
  2. do you use reprisal to a level of charge/intervene always being on cd, and if so, how do you manage it? I found the easiest way to weave charges into pack is to charge into casters, but pack usually gets too spread this way, and Im getting stabbed into the back sometimes
  3. when playing the wall I bring my ,khm, wall to a 1 min cd roughly, so it becomes very convenient to close sb downtime with it, am I correct? So looking at the defensives, considering 2 sb charges and sw ready on pull, can I safely assume sb into sb into sw into sb is the way to go, and what to do afterwards?
  4. conduit for rage gen from the last stand, why is it recommended here and there?
  5. if playing booming voice, am, ravager and bastion/mikanikos, do I drop all those cds at the same time for damage buffs under the Avatar, and if so what us the order, starting with ravager, correct? And this grants me 90 +rage (voice, am, charge) , how do I consume all of that? I feel it is too many globals, like it was in early bfa
  6. A lot of guides place heavy rupercussions under the other two options in that row, but top r.io warriors use it; does the magic there hide in 100%ish uptime on sb if play with reprisal, and why it is not recommended for a lower level?
  7. IP feels very meaningless to press, is there any way make it feel better, or I can use it as a rage dump when Im close to 100, and sb is on cd? (for 15 ish keys level)
  8. what to do in dungeons when group decides to ignore kicks, do I memorize caster packs, and keep all my defensive cds for those?
    sorry for a wall of text, thanks in advance for answers
prisma dove
prisma dove
prisma dove
#

but then what the point in running away if the boss follows

mortal brook
#

Thats why you open or do it with binding shot and such cuz compromising positioning for ground effects of your dps is poop

ionic fern
# prisma dove hi! new to prot, made the wall and reprisal. The reprisal usage looks a bit comp...
  1. 18s , no
    2)If i try to min-max then yes. There's a special "How to Reprisal" section here: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/protection-warrior-pve-tank-mythic-plus-tips
    3)Roughly yes. You use your other CD's like The Wall to cover for SB downtime. After you have used everything you can kite
    4)Because our other Endurance conduits are bad and Unnerving is one of the best ones. It provides a ton of rage gain which feeds into AM,damage,defensives.
    5)Yes, use them on CD. Drop Ravager from afar before charging in. Use IP (it's not on the GCD ) to dump rage and avoid wasting any.
    6)HR is good thanks to Reprisal - if played correctly you can achieve near 100% up-time on SB. This is not needed in lower level keys. Playing the class correctly will provide you with enough survivability so you can just pick up AM and provide benefits to your team via more damage. You CAN play HR in lower keys if you want to.
  2. It is kinda meaningless. You use it to dump rage or when having a heavy DoT on you (or generally facing majority of magic/unblockable damage..which is almost never)
    8)Yes, you try to save CD's for those packs. Also be sure to utilise SR/Fear/Stun to interrupt the casts. When things go south just kite.
jagged pier
sweet summit
#

sorry not sorry

blazing condor
#

make up your mind

ocean reef
#

Erga might be a gama, but I'd be scared doing another key with him on anything but a warrior ratge

#

ErgaWL burned into my hippocampus

autumn pendant
#

Erga is da wae

mortal brook
sweet summit
#

ergawl is hard gone bro

ocean reef
#

I'll sum it up to my subpar tanking that dungeon that didn't let ErgaWL shine

sweet summit
#

ergawl will never shine as bright as baneziProt peepoBlush

ocean reef
#

😳

sweet summit
#

wtf

blazing condor
#

wake up babe new skyhold emote dropped

ocean reef
#

Waking up to new emotes is like Christmas morning

blazing condor
#

and just like on christmas i'm too poor to have anything

sweet summit
#

bad rng

teal swift
#

@sweet summit ily sis

sweet summit
ocean reef
teal swift
#

Who adds emotes?

#

I'd like to suggest an emote :3

sweet summit
#

blue people

urban portal
#

Ping them

#

Surely you'll get it

ionic fern
#

Which one?

#

@teal swift

teal swift
#

I sent to vil

blazing condor
#

is mwahi blue enough to add emotes

ionic fern
#

Yes. 👀

#

Just my colour is orange.

teal swift
blazing condor
#

well there is also clowning valkyrs

teal swift
#

Yay it's added

ionic fern
#

2 separate roles.

#

1 for the colour blue and the other for power.

blazing condor
#

yes thats why i wondered cus maybe it was clown exlusive : )

ionic fern
#

Nope.

mortal brook
#

Orange for Bear

teal swift
#

Mwahi identifies as a theorycrafter more than mod it only gets confusing sometimes

ionic fern
#

^

subtle fossil
#

Hy, does anyone know how to get rid of this awful Sylvanas is jumping into a pillar staying invisible and killing us from somewhere over the Rainbow bug in Mythic?

jagged pier
#

do u have a kyrian boomkin?

#

like serious question

#

we only get it if our boomkin goes kyrian

subtle fossil
#

No just a NF Boomi

jagged pier
#

its to do with hp

#

we think

#

just stop earlier

teal swift
#

@jagged pier huggies yuzu

jagged pier
#

🤗

teal swift
#

Hi friend

#

Hope your day is going well

#

❤️

jagged pier
#

its okay hope your can sleep well tonight

teal swift
#

Thanks :3 me too

lime urchin
#

Hello frens

#

May your revenges be plentiful and sweet this week

blazing condor
#

thanks i dont play anymore peepoBlush

lime urchin
#

Nobody does sadge

stoic forge
blazing condor
#

was the drake hot sauce thing true btw?

#

sounds whack asf lol

stoic forge
#

🤣

teal swift
#

I don't see that being a commercially viable product, however in the fringes it might do well. Call them Dragon Socks

#

Oh my god

blazing condor
#

I mean honestly big brain move

#

if i was a girl i wouldnt mind getting that million dollar child support

teal swift
#

Still, lmfao that's fucked

#

Wait you think she'd get child support lmfao

#

Nah that's giga illegal

#

Plus he'd win custody lmao

blazing condor
#

idk how they do things there in america but i wouldnt be surprised

#

then again

#

Drake is not exactly known for being good with his kids lol

teal swift
#

Lmao

#

Idk

#

I dont pay attention to this shit ngl

ocean reef
#

MY TOP 5 IS DRAKE DRAKE DRAKE DRAKE DRAKE

teal swift
#

Gn yuzu

jagged pier
#

gn

sick sentinel
#

i mean, you have seen porn right

#

ppl into weird crap lol

blazing condor
#

Ah yes my favorite porn category

#

Hot sauce condom

sick sentinel
languid yoke
#

ergadruid bis

sweet summit
#

oi

ionic fern
#

Carry my DH you "oi".

sick sentinel
#

i keep forgetting that torghast is usually actually alot of fun

sweet summit
tropic linden
brazen nimbus
#

hey guys. short question here. is there some good use in dungeons with shattering throw or is it just a pvp thing?

lofty widget
#

goliath in spires and hakkar in dos are the 2 that come to mind

west walrus
#

Marauders in NW

brazen nimbus
mellow bridge
#

NW endboss not a bad choice either

#

keep in mind you cant block during the cast tho

tropic linden
#

500% more dmg when shield is up

#

Not ur shield, the enemies

rugged mural
#

Trying to decide between DK and Warrior for 9.2. Will play primarily tank in M+ and DPS (either spec) in raid. Any strong reason to pick one over the other or just toss a coin?

ionic fern
#

Fun is subjective.

#

Play w/e is most "fun" for you.

#

The class choice won't hold you back doing content.

dawn canyon
#

Warrior gets to use shields which is an important transmog aspect

#

Dk gets the cool new Ring though

#

Why not both ratge

tropic linden
#

BFA has some cool shields

sick sentinel
rugged mural
#

I find them both fun and interesting but for different reasons.

sick sentinel
#

a great exampel of this is hakkar

#

when he puts up his blood shield, toss it and it will deleted his absord, forcing him back to do nothing phase 1

dawn canyon
#

The guy has insane technical BDK guides

#

Very entertaining (imo)

tropic linden
dawn canyon
#

Always makes me wanna play bdk

sick sentinel
#

BDK has always been fine in m+ played with one

#

they are live lords is the secret

tropic linden
#

Yeah, M+ they are the same. All tanks are good at M+

dawn canyon
tropic linden
#

Raid war will always have a spot for the buff

dawn canyon
#

Pwar necro in raid looks juicy

sick sentinel
#

i still remember when it was 2death2unholy2frost runes

dawn canyon
#

But necro dk always needed

#

Slappy hands opop

sick sentinel
#

to transmog shield as tank just find the biggest one wit most pixels and spikes or whatever

west walrus
#

I'm using the one from Legion Tower Mage ^^

sick sentinel
#

how you gunna block the jailers attack if you got a wooden buckler

dawn canyon
#

Also hidden scale artifact pretty good

west walrus
dawn canyon
#

Yogi is a tauren i think

west walrus
#

I dont know what they are playing ^^'

dawn canyon
#

I prefer highmountain tauren

#

Their antlers are better

west walrus
#

Tauren vs blood elf

dawn canyon
#

Only one correct choice then

#

Dwarf

west walrus
#

Shields on gnomes look funny :D

sick sentinel
#

what everyone wanted mechagnomes to be

#

what happened

west walrus
#

I wish I could use new highmountain tail decorations on my classic tauren sadge

sick sentinel
#

that game series (DE) aged alot now, but its based

jagged pier
west walrus
#

This is a very old screenshot to compare sizes, because size matters ratge

sick sentinel
#

time for +12 SD, i didn't report on it, but i attempted 13 on tuesday, then i pulled brute with huntsmaster and stood in 3 traps, left key till now

wild hemlock
#

awe yogi

regal glen
#

A moment of silence for the people who still run sanguine depths

west walrus
#

I'm going in right now x)

neat isle
#

So just picked up prot warrior again since Cata. Just started doing Mythics. Trying to set my expectations, am I supposed to have great dps? Or are my dps bad/undergeared?

jagged pier
dawn canyon
#

Dps will generally do less than they could

#

But that's just pugs

jagged pier
#

dps upto 20s do low damage

#

i havent done keys over 20

neat isle
#

Fair, what covenant are you using?

ocean yoke
#

most of us rock kyrian, you can also go fae and do well

jagged pier
#

necros not that bad

ocean yoke
#

gamer

dawn canyon
#

That boomie

jagged pier
#

He called someone a noob for getting the maze wrong as well

distant crystal
#

deserved

#

Last night in NW 21 the hunter feign deathed exile while I was mid-ramp

dawn canyon
#

He probably thought he was the brown Meter too

distant crystal
#

I wanted to hurt him irl

dawn canyon
#

Boomie

#

Ew

#

Think hunt down is fine though

distant crystal
#

i got picked after and ramp was ruined sadge

jagged pier
#

Wildcharge

distant crystal
#

that still works?

#

never actually pulled it off, and you're still gonna die

#

but i guess i can finish wamping

jagged pier
#

I believe it does

tropic linden
#

Do we use LS on CD?

#

With the conduit that increases Rage generation

sweet summit
#

basically okayge

tame jasper
#

Looking at the tankspot mythic silvanas guide, it gives you the feeling that you should not play warrior 😦

sweet summit
#

warrior bad need buff copium

tame jasper
#

I won't play anything else anyway

#

no matter what they do with warriors

jagged pier
#

prots fine i tank slyv every week

sick sentinel
#

i ran it with IV by mistake, because was using it for torghast last night

west walrus
#

Because it's easier with another class, does not mean prot warriors are bad okayge

sick sentinel
#

no, its just like trying to tow a car in a really small truck, you can do it but you'll get funny looks

distant crystal
#

When I was in HS I towed my friend's 1980 suburban with a 97 civic

#

was a sight to seee

sick sentinel
#

doing a mythic key is like towing a car, its either all clear sailing few bumps or everything falls apart

silver condor
#

do you guys think its worth getting renown to 80 w/ maldraxxus before 9.2?

jagged pier
#

yes

chilly brook
distant crystal
#

I finally got my warrior up to 60

#

only cov i've touched is necro so far keksquad

#

A simp's life for me!

tropic linden
distant crystal
#

I either had to pay $55 to xfer my existing warrior and then level from 50

#

or $60 to boost a new one 😮

#

Now I have two warriors!

sick sentinel
#

if you start making 3 and 4 and beyond warrior seek help

jagged pier
#

🤔

#

i have 4

#

technically 6 if u include 50 and up

sick sentinel
#

EU and NA hord and alliance?

#

i just have a few lvl 60s one that i actually play, and then bunch of 50's

jagged pier
#

eu horde

sick sentinel
#

oh you did it for covenants testing

#

i think

jagged pier
#

i had like 15 or somthing max lvls in bfa for emissary gold

#

like an hour of work for 30k every 3 days

tropic linden
#

Hey, was reading the excel sheet for Spell Reflect. How did ppl tank the Eye if nothing is blockable? U just never use SB? Prot War is shit on this fight?

jagged pier
#

it doesnt hurt

#

and u do use SB it increase SS damage

#

and works against the valkyr add

sick sentinel
#

i swear you could make 50-100k gold just by leveling a toon from 1-120 and then doing the war campaign

waxen orbit
#

These aren’t exactly glory days for prot if we bein honest g

#

Tank balance next patch is gonna be stinky

waxen orbit
#

Raid tanking is fine

mellow bridge
#

you can use IP for the small eye adds

#

but the big boy basically doesnt hurt

#

only thing you need to mitigate is his cast, but you can just demo ip it every time

waxen orbit
#

Demo shout death link off CD with spell reflect to smooth out magic damage

tropic linden
#

Thanks

mellow bridge
#

the boss casts are all physical

#

except for the big AoE but that is w/e for us really

#

SR is good for the small eye add tho

#

oh and you can use SR in the last phase to prevent one stack of the heal reduction

waxen orbit
#

You can p much also save SW/LS for the small eye phases if you get in a jam

mellow bridge
#

yea 100%, you dont need anything other than demo for the main phase

teal swift
#

@jagged pier @sweet summit @strong forum morning yuzu

sweet summit
#

gm okayge

jagged pier
#

gm

teal swift
#

How are you guys doing? I had a nightmare t.t

regal glen
#

People out here being friendly and giving out morning greeting

blazing condor
#

they don't do that to you?

regal glen
#

No

#

I'm too hateful of a person

blazing condor
teal swift
#

yuzu it's a morning thing. I care about the people who help me feel better on a day to day vasiss

jagged pier
#

day was long but at least we kill slyv for i dunno how many times still not shield sadge

teal swift
#

Sadge

#

Shield so hard to get :(

jagged pier
#

yep that 259 one eludes me

teal swift
#

The 252 eluded me too

regal glen
#

You know what

#

You have inspired me

#

@blazing condor bad morning

blazing condor
#

it's literally 9 pm

regal glen
#

It's for tomorrow

blazing condor
regal glen
#

Don't forget it

distant crystal
#

idk man

#

morning at 9pm sounds like a pretty bad morning

teal swift
regal glen
#

Yes, I see

#

Indeed

#

Still

#

Bad morning BADstuffe

#

Goteeem

dawn canyon
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wokege rude

blazing condor
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mods sadge

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bulli

jagged pier
teal swift
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Don't be mean to goodboi

regal glen
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I have paid off every single mod on this server

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I'm UNBANNABLE

blazing condor
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didnt you literally get muted like 2 days ago

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"thats not being banned" yeye

chilly brook
teal swift
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:3

regal glen
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I specifically asked the mods to mute me

teal swift
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But it's okay, you're in the right plaxe

regal glen
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Ok anime profile

strong forum
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Embrace the cringe

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Only if you are cringe you are free

teal swift
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Hi nlme

strong forum
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Hi

teal swift
strong forum
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Wtf

blazing condor
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:nomeratur:

strong forum
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fucking yuzu gets an emote but I don't

blazing condor
strong forum
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GOODSTUFFE GETS IT

blazing condor
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skyhold doesn't deserve you, chief

teal swift
strong forum
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Joey is my spirit animal, in way too many cases

sick sentinel
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i don't know what happened to my poor healer, but they got destroyed on that 12

blazing condor
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logs will tell you the answer

strong forum
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Probably bad

blazing condor
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you can never have too much knowledge okayge

sick sentinel
strong forum
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Yeah that would certainly help

blazing condor
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nom for emote 2022

sick sentinel
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he did this much healing

ionic fern
sick sentinel
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yes if anyone deserves custome emote is nomer, we all love him

blazing condor
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Imagine having to choose an emote for yourself

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couldnt be me

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i wouldn't be able to decide

sick sentinel
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if i got an emote i would make it the IV logo

sick sentinel
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i just like that the heal is instant and large % of hp on relatively short cd

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gunna take damage anyways and be left low right, probably good if you could manage to not over heal with it

blazing condor
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sounds like literallytrash but with another picture

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we can make it happen

sweet summit
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YEA

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UR PFP

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GOTTEM

sick sentinel
woven bear
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Is there a WA that can show me custom text (as cooldowns) depending on bigwigs timers?

blazing condor
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too much goodstuffe slander in this here environment

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toxic 💅

woven bear
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I want to see the cds I planned for heartseekers on sylv

sick sentinel
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got one of them too, only cursed one i don't got is the stoneheart fuck that thing

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there was a monk (90%sure) or a dk, and they said they wanted it for tank set so i immediately gave it to him from zero we had run

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if you put something on that makes you unslowable past X% it just deletes the (de?)-buff

chilly brook
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Shield wall first one,

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Aegis second

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Wall 3rd

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You can alternate like this

woven bear
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@chilly brook just an example

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@chilly brook Do you use reprisal or the wall for this?

chilly brook
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Wall

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Blockable damage isnt going to kill you on sylvanas

woven bear
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hm I like it for the seekers and the adds. talking about mythic btw

chilly brook
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I know

jagged pier
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SB and SR is enough for 3

chilly brook
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Again blockable damage isnt a problem in mythic

jagged pier
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aegis will cover up to 6

chilly brook
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Maybe the goliath

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But he shouldn't live long enough

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And if he does, have a DH/warrior taunt to reset stacks

distant crystal
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doesn't everyone have a dps taunt the goliath off

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or is that just us

chilly brook
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They can use blur or dbts

chilly brook
distant crystal
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I taunt from range

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and tank just insta taunts back

jagged pier
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goliath LS at start then SW when veil comes out then aegis after that

chilly brook
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But there have been plenty of times it just hasn't even needed to happen

distant crystal
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apparently you just need an aggro change to drop or smth

jagged pier
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u will have aegis back for second platofrm

chilly brook
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^

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Tbh I save wall for the heartseeker

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Also reprisal has little benefit in p3 tbh imho

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This is over 17 pulls

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Top 4 damage intakes are not blockable

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Out of the top 10 damage intakes only 4 are blockable

distant crystal
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I wonder if there's some weird misshapened mirror tech

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to minimize puddles

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Like if you can reflect a stack on each tank with every use 🤔

strong forum
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That's very pointless min-maxing