protection

[sweet summit]

ok it was 40

still

bull owns

[sick sentinel]

i've been over that video when he first dropped it

[urban portal]

im gonna watch it

cuz im about the same skill level as yogi

[sick sentinel]

he gets gradually more angry as the video goes on

[urban portal]

yeah but he never overcapped on rage

[solid granite]

any tips on how to not get blasted by the caster mobs in HoA on keys +21 and up?

[ionic fern]

-Cordinated interrupts
-SR
-Kite
-Stun/Fear

[teal swift]

Morning Erga

[sweet summit]

gm

[teal swift]

Scream at your group to fucking kick and stun. HOA is pretty much the only key you're powerless and at the hands of your idiot teammates. I hate it.

[solid granite]

yeah, i feel that. Even with Broken Mirror it feels horrible to be chunked by the bolts

[teal swift]

I swapped to bdk, and the caster mobs lost relevance. But honestly HoA is so teamwork reliant for tanking

It's really painful to pug

[blazing condor]

depending on how slow you wanna play it you can always pull the 2 caster mobs infront of each shard separately

because they are not chained to the shards

[teal swift]

The issue is HOA timer is tight

You really need to get into that 1st boss asap

[blazing condor]

yeah i wont deny that usually you have to pull big

[teal swift]

% is super front loaded

HOA used to be gigafree

Now it's supremely tight

[blazing condor]

yeah i think i do 7 pulls in total (minus tormentors) up until 1st boss

with skip included

after that is

[sick sentinel]

halls is an example of a dungeon that works well for casual runs and breaks down during high keys

it looks great has a nice theme, but it has some really really annoying mechanics

and a fuck load of trash before second boss

[chilly brook]

Wat

Halls has like 0 trash before second boss

You do all the trash at the start

Then 1st boss then skip to 2nd

[sick sentinel]

what i mean is its way over populated in general

maybe not way too much but there is so many things that can accidently get pulled

[chilly brook]

Just don't pull

[sick sentinel]

bunch of weird pats from solo mobs or if you pull the guys down first stairs to left when they are beside 2 uhh, sentry? (they don't move i mean) you get those

[chilly brook]

Just invis

[sick sentinel]

i won't ms paint it but i know exactly what im talking about here

its between the second LT and the gated garden thingy

[chilly brook]

I know what you're talking about

[sick sentinel]

that can chain aggro if they are too close and they social

[chilly brook]

Just invis pot

[sick sentinel]

thats a part i've seen many times failed due to, and pull around this factor

[blazing condor]

you dont touch anything after the 1st boss before 2nd boss

you just invis

period

[solid granite]

with tormentors excluded, we do 8 pulls before the first boss and 1 before the 3rd

[sick sentinel]

this is before first boss now

[blazing condor]

no?

[sick sentinel]

i don't mean that you pull anything between 1 and 2 maybe the 4 guys at small stairs

[solid granite]

but on fortified hoa feels like a punishment

[chilly brook]

@sick sentinel

[blazing condor]

pog

the big play is to grab the gargoyle on the right side of the boss stairs

[chilly brook]

Literally impossible to mess up

[blazing condor]

if the pat is right

but thats bound to chain pull something

[chilly brook]

You don't pull anything after the stairs

You pull the 4 mobs at the bottom of the stairs

But nothing after

[sick sentinel]

apologies im not explaining correctly

if you stand like this and heroic throw some shit, they will all 5 come together

and so i specifically wait till they come closer to stairs and group

[chilly brook]

Wat

Am I looking at

[blazing condor]

yeah thats true those packs are easy to get chained together

i get it

before the 3rd shard

there's 2 pats and 2 guys inbetween them

on both sides of the fence

[chilly brook]

Where the tormentor is?

[blazing condor]

to the left of the tormentor but yes

if you look towards echelon

basically the packs before the 3rd shard

[chilly brook]

Who cares if you get them

Not a big deal

[blazing condor]

i usually pull those 3 packs together tho

[chilly brook]

Just don't pull the small bois to compensate

[blazing condor]

you can always kite them back and forth by strafing between the edge of the fence

[sick sentinel]

i've just learned it's not safe to do that in general, or at least not on fort grevious weeks

[chilly brook]

It's fine

[sick sentinel]

unless you got cd

[chilly brook]

At worst you get a dog pack and a caster

[blazing condor]

2 dog packs and a caster

and a thrust dude

8 mobs in total

[chilly brook]

Yea but if you get 2 dog packs

That's 100% on you

[blazing condor]

yeah kinda

its kinda easy for it to get messy tho

it happens if you pull the pat too close to the 2 guys at the gate entrance

because the 2 pats patrol parallel to eachother

[chilly brook]

At the end of the day you control the positioning and when things get pulled relative to other mobs

And if it's that big of a concern you can always max range the pull or los

On stairs

Although really just triple pull it with DPS CDs

Can't die if the mobs die

[solid granite]

If you have infinite dps, who needs a tank?!

[chilly brook]

Not actually wrong

Too bad the game doesnt work like that

[sick sentinel]

this is another part directly same area i have problem and how

interupts tend not to go out or somthing bunch of damage happens and people freak out during the quaking dust clouds things run into the 4

[blazing condor]

thats just a low key problem

nothing you can do

[chilly brook]

Idk getting the imps shouldn't be a huge deal

I usually grab them with the pull to begin with

[blazing condor]

same

[sick sentinel]

fort they just cause trouble for the healer

[teal swift]

I like to pad

[chilly brook]

They shouldn't

[teal swift]

So I grab lots of little shit lmao

[chilly brook]

They don't hit hard at all

[sick sentinel]

its not bad but its just annoying and can wipe

DEFINITLY can kill someone

[teal swift]

Big DPS makea my brain flood with serotonin

[blazing condor]

if its tough i wait til casters are dead then pull in

[blazing condor]

they can only kill you cus they just melee swing

[teal swift]

It's why Im such a slut for parsing lmao

[chilly brook]

This

[chilly brook]

Same

[blazing condor]

m+ parsing

[chilly brook]

But sylvanas had killed my desire to tank

[sick sentinel]

well, i've seen them pull and then that seems to be a tipping point of when we wipe

[chilly brook]

So I'm looking to be a warlock boi now

[blazing condor]

just aoe taunt them

[sick sentinel]

it probably feels like we were going to anyways

[blazing condor]

you probably panic

[teal swift]

Trying to prog eye on warrior

[blazing condor]

everybody

[teal swift]

Made me swap to bdk lmao

Healers couldn't keep me alive during eye phase

Sylv looks like a fucking nightmare as a warrior

[chilly brook]

Sylvanas is 10x worse

[teal swift]

Everything on the fight is built to fuck you

I prefer bdk anyways tbh. It's always been my preferred tanking style

[sick sentinel]

"is it possible to have negative fun? because if so i did whenever i did heroic sylvannas" - asmon gold

[chilly brook]

I just wanna throw dots out and spam seed

[teal swift]

I got a 95 on heroic sykv

I'm never going back

[blazing condor]

ez

[sick sentinel]

way asmon described that fight he made it sound like torture

[blazing condor]

asmon isnt directly a good player anymore

or rather

not read up on the fights

[distant crystal]

never was lel

[chilly brook]

I have like 0 dom sockets on my lock, not even good stats and I'm doing as much damage in keys as my warrior

[sick sentinel]

he said if anybody dies at all for any reason you don't have enough dps to kill it

[blazing condor]

he had some great parses back in WoD i remember

like top fury parses or whatever

but i dont really know

[sick sentinel]

which i think is hyperbole alot

[chilly brook]

Hes had a lot of good parses in the past

[distant crystal]

that might've been true if you were trying to get AOTC week 2 or something

[jagged pier]

well that incorrect u can have like 3 ppl dead and still killl her

on mythic

[blazing condor]

yeah

[distant crystal]

now it's a hold dps fest

[blazing condor]

hold dps

[sick sentinel]

he probably playin with shitters i bet

[blazing condor]

hold my sub

no he's carried asf

[sick sentinel]

like, relatively speaking shitters

[blazing condor]

he has no clue

[jagged pier]

no hes bad

[sick sentinel]

i get that yup

[jagged pier]

@strong forum play the gif

[blazing condor]

Kungen and Asmongold are our fallen warriors

[solid granite]

i had top fury parses once - doesn't mean imma good dps player.

or a good player to begin with

[blazing condor]

u press buttons good

[sick sentinel]

i just don't know how he has this massive ego when he doesn't even have all the achievements

still no king mechagon

[blazing condor]

my first hc sylv log i had scale + splinter + the wall

turtle mode bois

[sick sentinel]

i need automatic trinket to make scale more viable

dual on use is fine but meh

[solid granite]

asmongold is the embodiment of a car crash.

[sick sentinel]

he's got some struggles and he defintely could have made better life choices

[blazing condor]

idk he's just been taking care of his mom all his life p much

no wonder he lives like he does and is the way he is

put his own life on hold to stay and support his mom and live like trailer trash

luckily he became rich asf

[sick sentinel]

i wish that they would repair the existing house and remake it as the home would have been, but up to code and then let him do whatever he wants with it

[blazing condor]

We'll see if he even continues living there now that his mom has passed away

either keep it but move somewhere else

[chilly brook]

I mean Asmon doesnt have any illusion of being good

He knows hes not

But he also knows he was

And that's fine

[sick sentinel]

it doesn't seem like he has any ambitions to move out unless he is forced to or he gets an offer he can't refuse like he gets a paid built new house

but i'll stop streamer talk

cuz i garuntee there is some motherfucker watching him that probably simp him a new his own house, lets be real

[ionic fern]

@sick sentinel
-Wasting too much rage, use IP/Revenge to dump
-Revenge casts are more or less OK but SS/TC are wayy too low
-Blocked hits could/should be higher
-Ravager/Spear/Avatar casts should be higher (Avatar is probably lower because you wasted so much rage so AM couldn't use it )
Just checking one of your openers in the image..if you want to maximise your AoE damage you should cast Revenge wayyyy more with the extra Rage like in the img 2

So in general..press more buttons and pay more attention to your rage.

[sick sentinel]

nvm i'll look into how to read the logs again still didn't comprehend full thing, one thing that i'm attempting to do is record with OBS because then i can get an overlay of pressed keys, however don't know how to show mouse and have trouble recording it proper format possibly need to look into it

[dawn canyon]

There's a weakaura that Shows used Buttons @sick sentinel

Get that one put it somewhere visible and use that as a Review Tool

https://wago.io/RvbxkQEv2

Alternatively Details streamer plugin

[sick sentinel]

positve i ran that 12 as kliea share too

cuz i did halls and no way i wasn't running it like that

[blazing condor]

doesnt matter

[dawn canyon]

A soulbind cant make up for Bad casts

[sick sentinel]

better to save with mov or mp4

[urban portal]

As long as it uploads

[blazing condor]

does seismic sim properly?

[strong forum]

afaik yes

[fiery badge]

Bro have you seen that video of Asmongold “pushing glad”

[blazing condor]

nop

[blazing condor]

guess it'll be a answer but crit should be more valuable than haste in a seismic build righ

cus of parries = revenj

[ionic fern]

It's 3ppm now for free revenges.

But Crit is big for damage generally yes.

[strong forum]

^

[blazing condor]

thanku

gonna sim and see

cus i got some degen crit build for my seismic but i have no idea cus i never play seismic

OPC + Crit Gland and rest is just critty

[ionic fern]

Do EM with a full crit build.

[blazing condor]

hmmm

I need to get 262 EM and Seismic anyway but

[rancid tiger]

hmm

so dps gear for tankin is good

can u use spear and EM ?

only doing 15s

[ionic fern]

Yes...

[rancid tiger]

my tankin xp = zero

😛

[ionic fern]

Why wouldn't you be able to do that?

Your survivability comes from proper play.

[rancid tiger]

kek. Reprisal leggo it is

[ionic fern]

😂

Just keep SB up and use your rotational abilities properly

And it's fine in 15's.-

[blazing condor]

good thing reprisal is great dmg as well

as well as survivability

but the true chad play is seismic

[rancid tiger]

_D

guess ill try at some point

[blazing condor]

its fun

[teal swift]

Honestly. Tanking mentality should be.

Meet minimum survival, add in a buffer for your personal skill level, push dps

Maybe in 10 years the rest of the community will fall in line instead of minmaxing defense

[blazing condor]

wow is literally all about damage when it comes down to it

so why not push for it

regardless of role

[teal swift]

Because more than half the tanking player base

Is still stuck on tank take hit, tank damage don't matter zugzug

[sturdy sable]

Id say more thenn half

Atleast on ally

[blazing condor]

yeah most tanks are just full on turtle

the whole damage push comes after players feel comfortable enough that they can survive what they're doing

learn to play the class > min/max dps

[sick sentinel]

has anybody ever heard of or tried a strategy in PF keys where you would go for tormentor up the stairs from ickus first, and then clear the remaining trash for more dps on trash fort weeks? just a random thunk

[blazing condor]

Yes thats what you do

thats already the strat

you usually go to the Ickus room > clear first pack on left > go tormentor together with far pack

then kill the last pack with the red blob

[sick sentinel]

like before killing the pre-boss trash?

[blazing condor]

yes

and you take red slime pack (first on the right) last and use the blob on boss

[sick sentinel]

oh okay, i didn't know about that, is there anything special to doing that, just kill the small group at landing of stairs and run across room up stairs to right?

[blazing condor]

yeah

i would suggest not taking the pack with you though

literally no reason to it makes it very much harder than it needs to be

cus you get the frontal and spikes guy

[sick sentinel]

theres some bullshit about he doesn't become active until you kill final guy of that pack whatever remains

[blazing condor]

boss is always active

he just doesnt jump around until you kill one pack

[sick sentinel]

im thinking about island pack just to left taht you normally interupt cc to landing

[blazing condor]

yeah but it doesnt matter

you kill any of those packs

he starts jumping

but you can attack him from the beginning anyway

[sick sentinel]

and then whenever you kill the island guys on the left, he starts moving around

[blazing condor]

yes

or any island

[sick sentinel]

not sure what reseting on him looks like and its a huge space

[blazing condor]

ive only tried to reset him once and it didnt work

pretty much pulled him forward to the small island before 3rd boss

still active

[sick sentinel]

he always stays on the top left one as your entering till you kill a pack though right

[blazing condor]

yes

[sick sentinel]

okay thx thats easy then

[blazing condor]

🙂

its usually worth to kill the tormentor first because it's either the fire guy or executioner = always good DPS powers

[sick sentinel]

is it invis or something, mdt make it look tight

[urban portal]

it gets worse in pvp games

idk if you play league

but they think in league tanks should do 0 damage

[blazing condor]

its not tight at all yogi

[urban portal]

and purely a meat ball

[blazing condor]

you mount up and just run through the green

the last pack before stairs might be a bit tight

if you pull that just take it before tormentor but you just jump up on the side of the stiars

[teal swift]

Depends on the character for me, I'm trash like na gold at best

I dig Sunfire big dam

[urban portal]

but still you get my point

people think every tank should do 0 damage

[sick sentinel]

like this path?

[urban portal]

regardless of game

[teal swift]

Those same tanks still die in 3s to a vaybe

Kek

[urban portal]

at least in pve games you can taunt

how can you taunt a player

[teal swift]

But yeah u rifht

Playing shen

[urban portal]

you get banned if you taunt a player

[teal swift]

Obv

Shaco Ctrl 3

Another taubt button for some reason

But yeah the tanks I play, mainly built for cc engage, but you need to have enough pressure to not get ignored

[blazing condor]

straight through the middle

[teal swift]

Other wise you engage and they ignore you and make it 4v5

[blazing condor]

you can take that path too im pretty sure

[ocean yoke]

if you yolo engage enough times the team will hopefully get the message

[teal swift]

We call that Inting

:kekw:

[ocean yoke]

the line between inting and making brave engages is always thin

[ocean yoke]

holy shit finally an OWS, from someones alt trading it whos gotten 2 before me but still

[waxen orbit]

Fucking 16 pulls on Guardian and the first 3% pull of the night I get a 99 parse as fury

Final pull we kill it, and know what I get? A 9 because of a fucking ping delay chunking me into a beam

Fucking euthanize me

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-scream-rage-anime-gif-16784947

[teal swift]

Depends if you win the teamfight lmao

[ocean yoke]

the big brain strat is play with 3 friends so you can always blame the random teammate if you screw up

[teal swift]

Trueeeee

I'm just bad I accept it

If people wanna spend time with me on league

They can carry me or we can lose

I'm mostly in the business of spending time with people I care about

[ocean yoke]

I've played it so long I inevitably get tilted eventually when it sinks back in how bad I am still

I certainly never play alone, only arams even with others

[teal swift]

I have 90% winrate in arams

I play with my ex gf from Germany she only gets like 100ms lag to na

[blazing condor]

Woke up to league

[jagged pier]

[verbal ledge]

Is there a Weakaura that can Tell you to spell reflect if you are targeted by a reflectable spell in both Raid and M+ even if the Mob targetting you is not your current target?

[blazing condor]

Doesnt the normal SR WA do that?

Or is it just for the one youre targeting. I dont really remember

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10M3tlTgVTI

pepega car mouse!

i think sadly that alot of the better options like weakauras only track if the spell is being cast in general or if it is only at you, its probably pain to createi know for fact it is huge pain to have it track a spell, if its at you and your SR is ready, or at least i could not work out how.

i saw that nomer had somehow renamed the bosses cast bar of some deadly ability to "deadly ability" "deadly frontal" or something"

[wheat temple]

Hey ya'll. Got any recommendations for DPS trinkets on the mage tower? Hard stuck on Kruul for 10~15% hp left on my attempts. This is after battle pot/drums. Ugh.

[sweet summit]

are you getting knocked off early?

[wheat temple]

Lately, been managing to survive until drums wear off. Usually wait until I spell reflect the spell (whose name I forget) that heals him through damage. Noticed I am getting punted some, wondering if I can stop that from happening all together by nuking him down before the drums wear off.

[sweet summit]

killing gruul in 40 seconds sounds very fast

are you getting nuked by annihilate?

if so, which one?

[wheat temple]

By the third one usually. 😂

The last bit is one giant cluster f*

Can't seeee.

Trying to see now if another DPS trinket might tip the balance in my favor. Less time blinded by mobs, effects and the pressure.

[sweet summit]

SB
SB + demo
SB + SW
SB+LS+ RALLY+demo

this covers you for 4 annihilates

orbs are OP, both for healing and for extending time between annihilates

pressing buttons (i know it sounds dumb, but please bare with me) also helps a lot. warrior is the tank where gruul has the highest HP number, so you do need to slap. big damage, HUGE executes lots of shield slams

[wheat temple]

Got it!
Just lawd, tiring to get to Gruul in the first place.

[sweet summit]

ye p1 is a bit boring once you've got it down 😂

[plush tendon]

Seed trinket from first boss Emerald Nightmare

big damage

on add sets

[wheat temple]

Oooh, got that one!

My second one is... uh

[sweet summit]

ravaged seed pod, more like, ravaged seed pog

[wheat temple]

https://gyazo.com/76b159ec76a051169a1e857133e683b5

[plush tendon]

I bet the Sethe trinket from bird boss in Hellfire might also be juiced

it just does so much damage

[sweet summit]

can warrior use that

[plush tendon]

can they?

I have no clue

[wheat temple]

Time to ask wowhead

[plush tendon]

didnt do prot warrior... did VDH and Guadian

[wheat temple]

Nooope, we cannot. :(

[plush tendon]

sad

if you have BFA rep, the Clcotronic blast also pretty good

[wheat temple]

MAN. Regretting tossing away my mechagon trinket.

[plush tendon]

also, if you havnt done this quest already; try to get https://www.wowhead.com/item=139997/gauntlets-of-legion-devastation

[sweet summit]

crusader is also still strong healing too

[plush tendon]

its a legion quest

[sweet summit]

if that'd help

[plush tendon]

and those gloves just add like 5% damage

[wheat temple]

Already got that. 😁

[plush tendon]

a set of dreaful glad gear from MoP?

[wheat temple]

Don't think I have, gonna go and see.

[sweet summit]

also remember seeing that DST is strong

but idrk

[wheat temple]

Sorry but aaah, what's DST? :p

[sweet summit]

dragonspine trophy

from gruul

[plush tendon]

Other cool trinket, and it may be troll, but the leveling trinket with the heal on kill

[sweet summit]

didn't that get hard nerfed?

[plush tendon]

did it?

[sweet summit]

bro idk that's why i'm asking

[plush tendon]

I have no clue

Right now, ya boi gots to work on the Warlock and Paladin one

then decide if I have the strength of will to learn to heal

or do Arms keys

[sweet summit]

arms keys

[plush tendon]

[wheat temple]

GL! Gonna try out the suggestions. Was hoping to get this done before New Year's but oh well. ALSO, FELLOW ARMS AFFICIONADO.

[sweet summit]

🙏

[plush tendon]

More like, I get yelled at for playing Fury

by my tank

[sweet summit]

fury owns

[plush tendon]

Our group comp is scuffed though; doing 24s with a VDH, double mage, and a resto shaman (plus my boosted ass)

still need about 100 points to get into the title bracket 😦

[coral quartz]

Where are the high key streamers at 🤔

Always seeing pals/druid

[plush tendon]

Plka is on vacation now since its not really a push week

[coral quartz]

We need more than him!

[plush tendon]

but Prot is not very popular in general this patch (although not a terrible pick, other stuff just better)

[coral quartz]

What are we lacking

After playing reprisal I’m scared how the spec will feel when it goes away

[plush tendon]

Theyll have to review Prot Warrior for WoW 10.0

Reprisal is basically the band aid they came up with to make it viable

[coral quartz]

It’s so fun and reminds me of the DH momentum talent

I feel like that leggo alone is what makes prot as okay as it is in m+

Without that specific leggo we would be in trouble

[dawn canyon]

What would we want back from previous expansions?

[coral quartz]

Idk if it’s wanting something back, but to solidify what prot does better than the rest going forward and not using leggos to fill in gaps in poor class design

[plush tendon]

Anger Management+Bolster working together

[dawn canyon]

A third charge of shieldblock would be cool but im unsure how helpful it would actually be

[coral quartz]

Feeling kind of rage starved too which feels bad

[wheat temple]

Yes please.

[plush tendon]

Oh, and AM being baseline

make it happen

for all warrior specs

[blazing condor]

Bfa was p nice with bolster + am

[jagged pier]

just want a good base class and fun stuff to do

[plush tendon]

maybe in 11.0

[coral quartz]

Sad

[sweet summit]

[jagged pier]

i dont mind fun SH weeklies tho

but like everything atm is just not fun

[plush tendon]

play arms

the game becomes a lot more fun

[sweet summit]

wrong

no totem = no happy drug if arms

[plush tendon]

meh

[blazing condor]

Sh weekly

[plush tendon]

give all shamans Windfury

[sweet summit]

make it raidwide too

[dawn canyon]

Give enhance aoe

[dawn canyon]

No, dont want the greedy hpals to get more dps 😡😡

[plush tendon]

enhancement shaman is actually pretty cool; lots of my raiders have been playing it and they say its fun... until they look at the meters

[dawn canyon]

Jpc is playing it now

And isnt doing too bad

[plush tendon]

no, they dont do too bad

but you feel like you are pumping, then you look at the WW next to you and are like 'ok then....'

[dawn canyon]

Enha has so shit aoe

[jagged pier]

wrong

[plush tendon]

Guess I'll go tilt myself in League then

Waiting for 9.2 and AoE4 patch

[jagged pier]

league

EWWWWWW

[plush tendon]

Another way to say "guess Ill go fuck myself"

[jagged pier]

TRUE

[coral quartz]

What about lost ark NA release @plush tendon

[plush tendon]

No way I'm adding another MMO to my gaming itinerary

until the League MMO comes out

[strong forum]

Just remove wow

Ez clap

[blazing condor]

Skyhold cs push when

[dawn canyon]

All Portals only prot warrior i believe

[jagged pier]

well we did do a 17 on grievous week

[sweet summit]

doable

[jagged pier]

so 20 tyran with not bad affixes might actually be doable

as u could pull trash onto a boss for seismic cleave

might have to slightly plan, instead of 'do we have a lust?'

or should we pull all these

are we going to use urn

[sweet summit]

nah bro

just wing it

[jagged pier]

true

[plush tendon]

This week aint that bad

just slow

Inspiring in certain packs is -_-

[dawn canyon]

Mists :)

[plush tendon]

yea, some troll pulls in Mists can ruin that key

with inspired

[sick sentinel]

troll (figuratively) warlocks, stands too close to portal skip location "i can't do it boss"- some months ago

shame there is no way to put a tiny world marker that isn't 5-10 yards whatever it is now exact precise locations people can stand, probably close to cheating though (toy box items personal spot light or other toys come to mind if you get ppl to agree on it now)

[blazing condor]

Honestly that 17 would be loads more clean with less yolo pulls

Like 20 isnt an issue im sure

But probably better to have it fort than tyrann id imagine

[dawn canyon]

Ravager venthyr Boss killer prot warrior

[sick sentinel]

i imagine this is very common too, but its something i do in my keys and all my dungeons or LFRS

raids mark the 2 tanks with square and circle, and dungeons tank square healer star

reason for it is for everyone to quickly be able to see where location of that person is

[blazing condor]

Its common albeit not as useful

Many people have automarker WAs etc for the mobs

So people know what to interrupt and who’s on what mob

[sick sentinel]

i've seen that but i don't understand why it marks what it does

[plush tendon]

Automarker is the greatest thing ever

[sick sentinel]

if i knew why it did each icon it would be way better

[plush tendon]

basically marks mobs that interruptible casts

[lofty widget]

it just makes it easier to call interrupts on higher prio targets

[plush tendon]

and then allows people to focus on those mobs or if you are in disc, you just start calling mobs 'star' 'circle' 'diamond'

[sick sentinel]

i just do skull and x really moon for cc

[blazing condor]

It doesnt matter really what mark something has

Its just so people are like ”billy youre on circle”

[plush tendon]

yea, markers having meaning is such a boomer thing

[sick sentinel]

i mean, skull and x are really really good markers for "kill this, and this too"

[blazing condor]

Yes

Automarker dont usually do those tho

Cus you got triangle, square, diamond, star and circle

[lofty widget]

it does if you have a good one

[blazing condor]

Not often more caster mobs in a pack

[lofty widget]

like putting skull on goliaths in soa

[plush tendon]

I bet you could set the automarker weakaura to prio skull and X

[sick sentinel]

i just want auto marker lite where it does skull x and moon for possible CCs,

[blazing condor]

Yeah well people should know what to kill anyway

🤷‍♂️

[sick sentinel]

go down the list if really nessecary but keep simple

[plush tendon]

lol, good joke

[blazing condor]

Thx worked on it a while

[plush tendon]

'we doing a big pack in HoA with dogs and houndmaster.... better focus the groundskeeper'

[blazing condor]

People who dont care to learn what mobs do in dungeons because ”its a tank thing” is tilting

[dawn canyon]

I literally can only tell what to prio because of a platermod that colour Coded nasty shit

Dps brain

[blazing condor]

Same with not having basic understanding of routes

[sick sentinel]

dps doesn't interupt tank takes ton of dmg healer struggles 2 dps dies then tank dies wipe

healer you suck learn to play

[blazing condor]

Everybody sucks

Welcome to wow

[dawn canyon]

The dos mechagon grab soggo Route makes me sad as dps

[blazing condor]

?

The Soggo los?

Or what

[dawn canyon]

You do the first 2 large packs outside

Go into mechagon

Kill soggo

Go ardenweald

[sick sentinel]

soggy balls

[blazing condor]

Thats kinda retarded tbh

Like

Unecessary

Soggo just gives a little shield

[dawn canyon]

Dratnos skip less route i guess

[plush tendon]

on higher Tyran, getting Sogo buff actually pretty awesome

[blazing condor]

You only need to take executioner and fire guy

[plush tendon]

but it needs to be like a 23+

[dawn canyon]

In my 17 :/

[plush tendon]

In a 17 you press W

[blazing condor]

Its stupid because i assume you clear the entire circle before arden if you take that path

Which is dumb

[plush tendon]

dont over think it

[blazing condor]

Fire guy on the right? Go right then back around to arden

[dawn canyon]

You do yea

[blazing condor]

Fire guy on left? Go left, then into mecha for executioner then back

[plush tendon]

The ardenweald boss hurts quite a lot; having the 20% shield for that fight is very good

same with not doing Hakkar til you got dem daggers

[lofty widget]

wouldnt even bother going to fire guy first if he's on the left side

[dawn canyon]

Having a coordinated pug doing the lightning correctly also helps

[blazing condor]

Well assuming you go arden first

Then why not cus hes literally outside

[dawn canyon]

Everyone does hakkar last it seems

[plush tendon]

I mean, even in our group, the boss still trucks

[lofty widget]

we do manastorms, dealer, hakkar

[plush tendon]

and you have to kill Sogo anyways; I dont think a tank lives through Mu Zala at higher keys

[blazing condor]

Yeah ive seen higher keys go manastorms first cus might as well

If you go around

[plush tendon]

works well with lust timing

[dawn canyon]

defo the hardest Boss in the dungeon

[plush tendon]

Hardest hitting, wouldnt say the hardest

its also the longest

basically need to start him with 6 mins on the timer

[dawn canyon]

Hakkar can go pretty long if unlucky

But then you just deplete once you cant break the shield

[plush tendon]

we started doing a delayed lust on hakker for later shields

[blazing condor]

Just time the shatter throw 😎

[dawn canyon]

😎 i dont have shittering throw keybound

[plush tendon]

but we also plan out immunities and Damage reduction to help with shield

[blazing condor]

Do it

Actually has value in sl dgs

[plush tendon]

shattering throw is pretty good damage

[dawn canyon]

You're doing real keys, im still pepegaing up to 20 in pugs :(

[blazing condor]

Since hakkars shield ”ramps up” if you land the throw as soon as it casts it just gets deleted

Sry for bad england

[plush tendon]

17s are real keys

[dawn canyon]

There has to be a WA for that

[blazing condor]

Look at dbm

[dawn canyon]

Idk i always feel like i am doing Baby content if others are doing 28s

[plush tendon]

slowly working ya way up 🙂

[blazing condor]

Shatter throw has 1,5s cast

But yeah probably

[dawn canyon]

That's too much math

[blazing condor]

Im not consistant with it

[dawn canyon]

Yup trying to get 2300/2400 and Portals

Maybe ill be able to grab guildies so i can actually use coms

[plush tendon]

keys with guildies always the play

[dawn canyon]

I depleted my 19 soa because guild Officer healer died 3 times on devos 🥲

[blazing condor]

I got 7 portals in the first week before s2

Then i never got my last

[plush tendon]

to what?

[blazing condor]

But havent really cared to push this season

[dawn canyon]

I dont even know

The disc just exploded

Cr, again dead

Cr, again

[plush tendon]

did he get charged?

[dawn canyon]

Possibly

[plush tendon]

do you guys do frost boi?

[dawn canyon]

Yep did all of em

[plush tendon]

unlucky

[dawn canyon]

Yea ill just say it was unluck

[blazing condor]

Maybe didnt stand in bubble lol

[plush tendon]

^ could be that

[dawn canyon]

Maybe got the cr during Explosion yea

[blazing condor]

Oopsie

Or got a million stacks of the pools during intermission

But thats less likely

Probably bubble or charge

[dawn canyon]

Doesnt matter as long as they dont play like that in raid

19 untimed still was decent io, although p. sad depeleto

[blazing condor]

Yeah

[plush tendon]

no one likes depletos

[dawn canyon]

1% wipe cuz bear couldnt solo the 300k hp

This week we get the soa

[plush tendon]

get those portals!

[dawn canyon]

[wheat temple]

Damn, its working but panicked the last second, died to Annihilate at 4%

[plush tendon]

you got this

was the same for me when I did bear

so many sub 5% wipes before I learned to calm down and just do it

[mellow bridge]

just had a 1% heal mage tower wipe

last one I need for mount

[sick sentinel]

would be funny if anyone who cheated to get the all specs for mount was banned

i think you get mount for MT

[plush tendon]

Remember, exploit often and exploit early

[sick sentinel]

like people who pay to have their char played some crap or bought it off 3rd party gold sell thing

[blazing condor]

I heard if you complete a key at 00:00 tonight ur gonna get double rio

[jagged pier]

doing m+

KEKW

[blazing condor]

Ikr

Im just the messenger

[plush tendon]

.... i mean thats what im going to be doing tonight 😦

[jagged pier]

[blazing condor]

New year new me

[jagged pier]

so u actually gunna get good?

https://tenor.com/view/gotword-deeznuts-gottem-deez-nuts-gif-4394929

[sweet summit]

🙂

[modern brook]

Okstuffe

[blazing condor]

Yes i will

[modern brook]

I believe

[jagged pier]

we all believe

🙏

[blazing condor]

How do git gud tho

[jagged pier]

press buttons more

[blazing condor]

i will not dissapoint next time

A-at least i 99 parse though. Thats good right?

[dawn canyon]

Are m+ Parses damage done or something else?

[edgy cradle]

guys u understand pc? this is the best discord sv sooo u may help me, i have the same fps no matter the graphics i have in wow, is that normal?

i5-10600nonk ; msi 1660super oc

[blazing condor]

Check so you havent locked your fps

M+ parses can be based on damage, healing, time etc

Same as raids

[strong forum]

addons heavily influence performance of wow

and its a cpu based game

check legit all of your settings, a big one is triple buffering

that one just hemorrhages fps

[jagged pier]

theres several types like with normal raid logs

all useless in m+ tbh

[blazing condor]

If you go on advanced settings on the right side you got FPS sliders as well

[brittle owl]

remember kids

years come and go

rio is forever

[dawn canyon]

Yea all i know is my m+ is purple and my raid isnt

[brittle owl]

[jagged pier]

wrong it changes every season

[edgy cradle]

my cpu shoudlnt be a problem

maybe wow is hold

[brittle owl]

wrong you can see prev seasons

checkmate zoomer

[edgy cradle]

i dont have bad fps tho

[jagged pier]

[edgy cradle]

was just going for lower settings

[brittle owl]

feck

[edgy cradle]

if i could go for more fps

but stays the same

[strong forum]

yeah i have the same thing

1 or 7

same fps

i could never figure out wow settings tbh

i just got better hardware

[edgy cradle]

unlocked

nomeratur understands me hahaha

[strong forum]

going to 10 is a waste

tbh

[edgy cradle]

just saying

its same

xD

[strong forum]

when i had worse hardware

[edgy cradle]

that is on raid but even in open world hgappens

[strong forum]

7 to 10 was legit 0 difference in visuals but massive fps drops

[edgy cradle]

oh

[strong forum]

when youre in raid i would lower particle density to low

[edgy cradle]

usually i go for high density particles

and then all near "good"

or fair

[strong forum]

and spell density to essential

[edgy cradle]

i do go all 10

[jagged pier]

i literally raid at one with projected textures, my pc can do more but theres zero point in it

[strong forum]

that is the single biggest fps gain in raid

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDhQFHcMgNs that video title lol

[strong forum]

is he from rag or azralon?

cuz i wouldnt invite him too

[sick sentinel]

no, he's saying not to invite them

[strong forum]

yeah and im saying hes bad

[jagged pier]

u can tell by his tmog hes bad

[edgy cradle]

nomeratur can u show ur settings? curiosity

[sick sentinel]

well, we don't have his logs

[blazing condor]

Show sets

[strong forum]

dont need logs to tell me that

[sick sentinel]

but how do we quantify on what we can see that he is ba

[strong forum]

his movement, button presses, talents, CD usage

[jagged pier]

no meme Nome actually said i was good at tmog, best complment ever

[strong forum]

also his trinket choice

[sick sentinel]

i cant make out his trinkets

[blazing condor]

Shameless vulpera bias

[jagged pier]

spent 15 secs at the start of the first pull with enough rage to SB but didnt use it

and IP'd instead

[strong forum]

on first pull alone, for a solid 3 globals he didnt press a single button

he doesnt taunt the big guy in

[jagged pier]

from before i was vulpera

[strong forum]

doesnt play ravager

[sick sentinel]

well, is he worse player than i am

or am i worse

[strong forum]

hard to judge

i think youre better than him

[blazing condor]

The based way to do 1st pull in dos is to spec into plummage with mikanikos and jump down stairs

Easy 20% dr

[strong forum]

eh idk

very hard to tell

i havent seen enough

and i majorly CBA

[jagged pier]

^^

i need logs of both of u to compare to judge

but i also dont care enough

[blazing condor]

uninteredted SFs

[sick sentinel]

he's malding about ragnaros doesn' have time for this bullshit 5 minutes in lol

[edgy cradle]

how heavy? weak auras are part of that?

[strong forum]

yeah

especially bad Weakauras

eat shitloads of fps

[sick sentinel]

all the things turn it off

[jagged pier]

yer get rid of old WAs

and stuff

[strong forum]

you can do weakaura profiling

to see which WA eats the most

and fix them or get rid of them/replace them

[sick sentinel]

always turn off ATT (all the things not att[ability team tracker])

the xmog att will fuck your memory

and you will get 5 minute crash loading screens like asmon

[edgy cradle]

le me google this

[strong forum]

you can enable WA profiling

with the WA icon on the minimap

it tells you how to open the profiling window

[sick sentinel]

there is way to get the full addon profiling as well

[strong forum]

and then you just press start and go into combat and do you stuff

[edgy cradle]

without doing nothing

LUL

i should delete that one

[pseudo sigil]

nooby question but my warrior is very fresh best place to get quick 200+ sword/shield?

[strong forum]

its only 0.8%

thats not that bad

or is it?

i think my "wa lag" in combat is 0.17%

cuz i cleaned it up real good

[plush tendon]

Korthia? M0s?

[blazing condor]

does it make sense that my OWS sims higher than OPC for my seismic build or is it just ”sim bad”

[jagged pier]

more haste is more revenges

[plush tendon]

If you have friends, they could do a little world tour with you and maybe convince them to give you a weekly 15 corpse run

[pseudo sigil]

korthia is a good call what's the best way to target a piece? i'm new to this patch as well

[jagged pier]

OPC isnt even that good with EM tbh

[blazing condor]

I genuinely dont know whats most important for a seismic build

[jagged pier]

rage

[blazing condor]

[jagged pier]

u want as much rage as possible

[edgy cradle]

@strong forum thoughs on dx 11 vs dx 12 , testing both and just see what works for me?

@jagged pier

[jagged pier]

i dont even know what dx im on

🤷

[plush tendon]

dafaq is a dx

[jagged pier]

direct x

[blazing condor]

Dx nuts

[strong forum]

12 is better

[plush tendon]

12 is bigger then 11

[jagged pier]

must be better then

[plush tendon]

its why im so good at golf

always go for the highest score

[sick sentinel]

i don't really know what this means but i found it

[blazing condor]

You do want as high score as possible in golf 🙂

But as low strokes as possible!!!

[edgy cradle]

so i removed a addon called aurora , got 20+ fps what the fuck

[plush tendon]

I bought a new computer 🙂

went from 59 fps to 200 fps

=gains

[blazing condor]

Gains but replace the ”in” with ”rm”

[plush tendon]

now I can look at the floor in full HD

no lag

[sick sentinel]

what

you've never heard of the look down speed running strategy to get more FPS to beat the game faster?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKkhzioZVD0

[blazing condor]

Ofc ive heard of it

Stop assuming so much!!!!

[teal swift]

Happy new years eve to my loved ones.

@jagged pier @sweet summit @strong forum

[sweet summit]

happy new year

[strong forum]

hny

[blazing condor]

🍯

[waxen orbit]

2022 is goin to be 2021 again but on mythic +27 difficulty

Calling it right now

[topaz ember]

h(o)(r)ny to you too

[jagged pier]

🤗

[distant crystal]

Betty White died

one last fuck you from 2021

[waxen orbit]

NOOOOOOOO

https://tenor.com/view/tv-smash-angry-punch-gif-14888321

[distant crystal]

my last name is white and i named my cat Betty

didn't even realize it until her first vet appointment when they called for Betty White in the lobby

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-panda-rage-mad-gif-11780191

[blazing condor]

At least she was kind enough to not ruin 2022 from the get-go

What covenant yall think she ends up with?

[teal swift]

I put my fist through a 55 inch tv on thanksgiving

Regret, but satisfying

[waxen orbit]

Zug zug

Why

[teal swift]

I was really angry

And I don't even remember why I broke my own tv

I have more irl rage issues than my warrior ngl

But I'm getting better

[distant crystal]

sounds like you need to dump some of that rage

revenge more

[regal glen]

I heard she got a mean left hook, definitely going maldraxus

[blazing condor]

Maldraxxi Betty White

[humble tendon]

Happy new yearrrr

[ionic fern]

Happy new year.

[worthy flicker]

does warrior have a spreadsheet or the like that lists spell reflect usages, similar to rogues?

[dawn canyon]

Yes

[worthy flicker]

nvm it was in the faq

[blazing condor]

someone checked pins

I see this as an absolute win

[jagged pier]

Nah thats a lie no one looks at the pins

[cinder pasture]

He's got too much smarts to play warrior....

[distant crystal]

probably a mage main

[lime urchin]

Happy new year!

[blazing condor]

Happy new year frens

New year new us

[lime urchin]

2022 even more revenj!

[blazing condor]

2022: Revenge of the revenj: the movie: the game: the movie

[sick sentinel]

give demon hunters revenge, in wc3 dh unit multiplayer says "at last i shall have revenj"

[teal swift]

They'll be a bear main soon

Gotta do calculus to parse on thag

[noble stump]

Prot guys, i am Crafting the charge/intervene lego ( reprisal? ) and trying to look forward a teir, should i go boots with it since legs are teir for next raid? im guessing so... just wanting to see the general consensus

[urban portal]

you craft it on leg right now

but who knows next tier

either way you need to recraft next tier

because ilvl

[noble stump]

I guess just tryin to save gold since the r6 peices are pricy on my server.

[sick sentinel]

how does using kliea immune kyrian potion work with grevious

[lofty widget]

you wont have grievous stacks for 8 seconds

[sick sentinel]

what about without then but kyrian potion, does it remove any of it or only if healed to the amount it says

[lofty widget]

it's gonna clear your grievous stacks and then instantly start counting up from 1 stack again, unless it heals you above 90 %

[safe thistle]

grievous is not a big issue anyway

[sick sentinel]

i was scared that i would get to 3/4 grevious which is when it starts to get scary

and then it would only remove 1 stack, at a time, some how thought it worked like this (base k-pot)

[safe thistle]

as a warrior grievous aint that big off a deal since you prveent a lot of dmg before it land on you

if you have a mage in group get food

help healer quickly before pull if your low by eating quick

dont chain pull with stack remaining

[sick sentinel]

generally speaking overall dungeons do you guys tend to favor 2melee1range dps or inverse 2range1melee

[safe thistle]

depend if its a dungeon with lots of kick and if you have a resto shaman

anyway theres so many cc in game now

[sick sentinel]

hard to go wrong with hunter rogue whatever

[urban portal]

who cares

[lofty widget]

whatever signs up is good enough

[urban portal]

it doesnt matter if 2 or 3 melee

[safe thistle]

just pick those that know to dps

[urban portal]

take high io

thats it

[lofty widget]

^

[safe thistle]

and avoid Quel'thalas

haha

[sick sentinel]

3 melee with pwar or bdk is just fine

[safe thistle]

from what i saw you do 12-15 keys you dont need anything special for those pick anything

[urban portal]

^

[teal swift]

And ragnaros

[sick sentinel]

i dunno about monk, i tried monk for less than 10 dungeons in bfa, keys rather

dk i did like 25 keys

[safe thistle]

ragnaros is like loterry sometime thers some 2-3k io guys there

[teal swift]

Same with qt.

[lofty widget]

server-bullying not cool

[sick sentinel]

some ragnaros fuckers are giga pumpers

[teal swift]

Both should be avoided due to gigalotto

You want consistency

[safe thistle]

im on zul'jin

area52 is solid

[sick sentinel]

i dunno, at some point don't you have to say enough is enough when you can expect inconsistancy with extremely high variances on disconnects or being able to speak their langauges, or just skill

ragnaros is a universally known term with a negative conotation in the keys crowds

[urban portal]

only NA

[dawn canyon]

Kazzak on eu always poop

[sick sentinel]

like at what point does this not become a legitimate issue

[teal swift]

I'm on a52 and I'm bad

[dawn canyon]

Gordunni insane if you join their pug

Shit when they join yours

[dawn canyon]

17s have been ultra smooth for me currently

+2 all 4 of them i played

Fully pugged with random ass stuff

Since 15 is the bare minimum for 252 that go above generally actually care for m+ and dont play like monkeys

[sick sentinel]

keys between 3 and 11 are a special level of hell

because thats the REALLY bad players that can't climb at all

[teal swift]

What, I do low keys with like 2200-2600 players who want valor lmao just list valor farming

[safe thistle]

yah

theres sopme 2kish in +2 lol

[sick sentinel]

i feel like youd beat pf in 18 minutes at 2k on a +2

[safe thistle]

quicker than that

[fiery badge]

When I started doing 15 and up it got way easier

10-14 specifically the 10-13 range in particular is the worst

That and 7-9 range is also bad

[sick sentinel]

no i think under tens are the worst cuz it trains you to pull without considering the seasonals

so then you go into a 15 forget pull wrong paths

[fiery badge]

Yeah

That makes sense

[safe thistle]

yup like if you do small keys you can ignore shield block, bad habit to do

as long as you know its fine

[dawn canyon]

13 is the worst

Noone wants to do them

Because why not do 15s

But also everyone who then does them sucks

[fiery badge]

Yeah I mean in like a 10 the other day I ran with a mage that didn’t know what time warp was

[sick sentinel]

well cuz its always called lust or hero right

thats what you do in LFR

HERO, LUST

and you spam it till someone does

so he only knows it as the lust/hero spell

[urban portal]

sub 10 is doable

no affixes

invis past first pack

pull the slimes into the boss

then just pull huge

[modern brook]

my new years resolution is to #protection all of youy

and also ht 69 renown on my warrior

[mighty valley]

thank you for #protection all of us bullfango

[cinder nova]

I just watched Don't Look Up and have a flash of realization at what a huge relief it would be to hear the interminable arrival of a planet-killing comet.

[distant crystal]

now watch station 11 for more dystopian hellscape action

[teal swift]

I like the climate change metaphor. Everything about the movie... Is just amazing

Literally what's happening rn.

[ocean yoke]

idk this version of 2022 is easy 4 me but i have severe psychosis and whenever i play the new year i just sort of zone out like im not in my body and im just playing my character on auto pilot or something dodging mechanics and doing big dam its pretty crazy but thats just who i am

[mighty valley]

idk this version of 2022 is easy 4 me but i have severe psychosis and whenever i play the new year i just sort of zone out like im not in my body and im just playing my character on auto pilot or something dodging mechanics and doing big dam its pretty crazy but thats just who i am

[blazing condor]

2021 pastas in 2022

[brittle owl]

idk this version of 2022 is easy 4 me but i have severe psychosis and whenever i play the new year i just sort of zone out like im not in my body and im just playing my character on auto pilot or something dodging mechanics and doing big dam its pretty crazy but thats just who i am

[sick sentinel]

i just, i need to stop for a second, because i don't think i've properly discussed this game, i'm not sure i can fully describe this experience, every moment is suffering and confusion and regretting every choice that i have made in my life that brought me here, because this is one of the worst things i've ever played, even playing this game under the best of conditions with everything working it feels like i've bitten off more than i can chew you know, i feel like even showing footage of this game is punishing you the viewer for wanting to be entertained by true awfullness for gazing into the abyss for finally realizing that everything isn't going to be okay and that humanity is going to destroy itself and thats probably for the best.
https://youtu.be/YU0AWYGAeKI?t=1216

aka: when i upload a YT key video for skyhold

[blazing condor]

You can just farm cinders now right?

for them leggos

[strong forum]

Yes

[blazing condor]

guess i'll go slave torghast for a bit

[jagged pier]

[blazing condor]

life update: it got worse

[unkempt palm]

Has blizzard made a post yet if they’re changing prots tier sets in 9.2?

[tame jasper]

The Name of Bronns buff is "Bron's Call to Action" right? So for a cancel macro i would have to write "/cancelaura Bron's Call to Action" right?

[sick sentinel]

how about blizzard gives limited ability of jump to majority of pets/summonables

if it can take no other action to come closer to you, it first tries to jump in last location it saw you 3 times, and if it fails the jump it teleports to you

that way they don't collide if it follows your real time position going up stairs example

[blazing condor]

yes