With 100% crit block you only need to use half as many SBs meaning you can spend more rage on revenge
#protection
blazing condor
strong forum
This sounds suspiciously like someone else
blazing condor
Crit block = double block meaning if you can 100% double block you block as much damage as 2 SBs in 1 SB
strong forum
Stahp
tame jasper
okay thx
sick sentinel
its not me
im not special enough to make a second account on same platform to shill my 45 iq ideas
near pewter
For raid, I want to prio Haste over other secondary stats correct? Is there a "cap" for haste or nah? Like i should full gem, enchant for it?
sick sentinel
starting at, and after 30% you get taxed 10% for each 10% you go up is very short version - this only applies to raw stats, lust and pi far as im am aware don't affect you in this manner cuz its % based gain
compounding of course
most people i talk to here go for 30-40% leaning more towards 40%
the highest used haste i know of in this channel is around 43-44% by some 250 something guy here
near pewter
does the haste on your character sheet include DR's?
sick sentinel
i want to say its already tax calculated in at the end, but double check right
sweet summit
does the haste on your character sheet include DR's?
yes it does
sick sentinel
yeah, and so if you are at 40% haste flat as example and someone does 30% lust
you are going to 70% haste for that duration, and so if you instead gained 3000 haste say some pretend buff, you'd get nerfed to hell and get maybe 55% haste
sweet summit
what
near pewter
Okay cause with OWS stacked and Into the Fray, im over 60%.... too much?
sick sentinel
ITF is a % gain
near pewter
Im aware
sick sentinel
most people i talk to here go for around 40%, thats the best advice i can give you
near pewter
is that with into the fray?
sweet summit
i would not worry about it until you have 40% haste without itf
itf haste does not dr
neither does lust
and shit
near pewter
im over 40% haste without it
sweet summit
then you have great gear wth
near pewter
I know.... Im asking if it is worth to just keep stacking haste or not
sick sentinel
BEDMAS brackets > equations > division > multiplication > additions > subtractions
sweet summit
haste still has value, but you should probably look into other stats now 
assuming you're using your highest item level gear of course
near pewter
okay i guess to be more specific... im starting mythic guardian tonight. I usually stack verse, should i run lots of haste?
sweet summit
guardian doesn't hurt outside of sunder/obiterate combos, where you have cooldowns enough to live if played properly (without vers) 5% extra dr from vers will not save you if you fuck up your cooldowns there
i'd just play the regular stuff
near pewter
lol my "regular stuff" is stacking verse
sweet summit
near pewter
thats why im trying to figure out if more haste would be better
distant crystal
yes
sick sentinel
with AM wouldn't 60% haste be kinda stonks?
distant crystal
more haste more better
sick sentinel
you'd have SW up in a minute
i'd say if possible i'd want to watch that fight after you kill it
near pewter
With that much haste is it better to runt he Wall leggo?
plush tendon
Haste shouldnt affect Lego decision
and for Guardian, you could probably run any lego.... reprisal might be meh on that fight, but I have no idea.... I played my BDK for that fight and solo tanked it 🙂 (off tank just taunted his obliterate and then back to doing big deeps)
near pewter
I mean... that isnt really solo tanking then?
if the off tank does his offtank mechanics?
plush tendon
Tru; but basically let him spec fully into damage
near pewter
I was just thinking with more haste I could get my SS procs to get SW up faster
plush tendon
prob over thinking it
only time you need SW would be obliterate, which is roughly at 00:30, 1:40, 3:20, and 4:50 (assuming you dont screw up the pylons)
so with AM you get it down to a 2 min CD, could use last stand plus demo if it aint available yet, or plan a external
if you had the wall, then you prob have it to a 1:00-1:30 CD
so a general plan could be Obliterate 1: SW, Obliterate 2: Last Stand+Demo, Obliterate 3: SW, Obliterate 4: external+demo
near pewter
okay
jagged pier
and for Guardian, you could probably run any lego.... reprisal might be meh on t...
Repisal is the best leggo on that fight, unless u dont have enough externals (which is very rare, but the case that i have) like all the damage is melee repisal is and should be the go too
near pewter
Repisal is the best leggo on that fight, unless u dont have enough externals (wh...
thanks
jagged pier
With the wall u have SW for ever tank combo but u cannot tank the boss for very long as he casts and melees really slowly so u actually run out of SB pretty easily if u arent running rep even with proper usage
If u have externals go reprisal u can tank most of the fight and just SW/ external alternate tank combos
plush tendon
a Real Chad move would be Cov Specific Lego
sick sentinel
glory
plush tendon
Glory, Natures Fury, Elysian Might
when you out of stuff to tank with, just dump the boss on your friend
EZ gains
sick sentinel
im still really interested to see what 60% haste pwar looks like
jagged pier
And like with the wall u wouldnt be primary tank
near pewter
we are running prot warrior Prot pally
jagged pier
Glory, Natures Fury, Elysian Might
I am just saying so tho i was rank 3 now rank 5 on guardian with the wall and no PIs u dont need a dps leggo to do damage
plush tendon
we cant all be as cool as you 
strong forum
"im just average"
jagged pier
I keep saying it just press buttons
ivory elbow
near pewter
Would the wall leggo with heavy repercussions be an option at all? That would be a ton of extra rage?
I think our pally can solo soak first combo?
jagged pier
Well i was average but i worked at it and got better, i would still say in m+ im worse than most of u and the worst of U me erga and mwahi @strong forum
jagged pier
Would the wall leggo with heavy repercussions be an option at all? That would be...
No
HR only gets value from reprisal
near pewter
okay, i guess last question would be mikanikos or niya?
jagged pier
For what?
near pewter
for guardian
jagged pier
Literally doesnt matter
blazing condor
Spent two hours making an easy-to-understand shadow guide for my mom that she will use to do dailies and campaign 
now i know how to play shadow at least
chilly brook
Spent two hours making an easy-to-understand shadow guide for my mom that she wi...
Good guy Goodstuffe
jagged pier
hes not a good guy promised a carry to me and mwahi yesterday
we still havent had one
blazing condor
Good stuff comes to those who wait 
jagged pier
plush tendon
jagged pier
https://tenor.com/view/gotword-deeznuts-gottem-deez-nuts-gif-4394929
KEKW
waxen orbit
Listen to my guild’s reaction to finally downing Painsmith
It’s contagious
Literally the first pull of the night after a week break
strong forum
looks accurate to me
waxen orbit
That was right after the boss
You can see me stage dive into the lava at 0:38
A dwarf-sized pillar of flame shoots up
strong forum
fake news
distant crystal
I stage dove into the lava on our rekill Monday
blazing condor
Good stuff doesn't take 50+ attempts at mage tower
I was just doing strafeless% why you hating
distant crystal
Fight wasn't over yet but my ramp was 
blazing condor
How many attempts you got on strafeless huh?
strong forum
1
waxen orbit
I was in DPS prison for Painsmith but at least I got a purp fury parse for it
“No fucking way this is happening–
NO FUCKING WAY DUDE—“
eruption of 20 raiders and 6 guildie spectators screaming in the discord all at once, followed by me fucking punching my wall
strong forum
i wish i was this happy about killing bosses
teal swift
I'd like to stop wiping to remnant
WE fluked a kill with 5 healers, so all the shit overlaps and makes tanking absolute cancer
teal swift
then we tried to 4 heal it, and everything lined up well
strong forum
here my reaction to a boss i wiped to for like 1hr
teal swift
then we went back to 5 healing
strong forum
waxen orbit
then we tried to 4 heal it, and everything lined up well
Wait you mean you don’t like the geometry aiming boss?
teal swift
I dont mind it
i dont like when it randomly swaps
tanking jobs
like 5 times because of dumb overlap
but the helmet just keeps hitting the same tank
I like consistency
and the fight is a roulette every time
Oh, i accidentally grabbed a ball last night and didnt realize it too
so i was stupidly slow on my bdk
and didnt know why :kekw:
teal swift
I just dont like the massive random nature
strong forum
that little smh at the end
waxen orbit
At least Painsmith is reliable, you always know what you’re gonna get
teal swift
Its easy when its on farm and it dies in 3.5-4 minutes every time
but like 5 healing the fight
makes it EVEN MORE RANDOM
and im like wtf
waxen orbit
Tbh I’d force one of the heals to DPS
dawn canyon
One Boss away from PS, cant wait
ocean yoke
remnant was my favorite with painsmith a close second
sweet summit
liking painsmith 
teal swift
Liking Remnant
like its satisfying to hit 3 balls
but like the random nature makes the fight hell
ocean yoke
hell yeah dude i am simple man
sweet summit
guardian sucks hate it
ocean yoke
the nine is fun but seems to have so many just dead periods
sweet summit
it's just a hc boss without mechanics very sad
ocean yoke
probably just since its third
waxen orbit
My first time killing remnant as prot was also dookie because I was playing with a consistent 95 MS and charging to avoid getting knocked off, but the ping delay would make the charge register when I was already knocked off 
sweet summit
the nine would be epic if it was a later bosd
teal swift
the best boss is the nine or guardian
I really like the eye
waxen orbit
Internet is better now thank fuck
jagged pier
i wish i was this happy about killing bosses
literally my face, after every boss kill cause it shouldnt have taken that long
jagged pier
teal swift
<:greensloth:766650223098855504> literally my face, after every boss kill cause ...
I choose to play with a guild I absolutely adore
which means our prog. . . is special
jagged pier
I like my guild i liked my guild before
teal swift
Im happy when we kill a boss lmao
strong forum
i always say "i prefer good company" but 2/2 times im unhappy with poor performance over enjoyable company
i used to play with a german streamer back in legion, he did late night "shows" for content but my god they fucking SUCKED ASS so after a while i got fed up
good people but man... they were trash
teal swift
Im mentally unstable with a personality disorder
My guild accepts and loves me for me
strong forum
we didnt accept anyone in our guild
thats why it was so fun
everybody was equal trash
jagged pier
True
blazing condor
You tolerate bad players who you enjoy
Then its too late
Now youre stuck
Frustration!
teal swift
I used to get frustrated at shit like that, but honestly I just love what I do.
I'm given full autonomy and decision making for the tanks
That's enough for me :)
teal swift
I'm happy with aotc and a handful of mythic bosses
For the most part I'm getting everything I need to really enjoy the game
Gearwise
jagged pier
No winning it took u forever
blazing condor
How many attempts did it take for yall in legion?
jagged pier
150ish being undergeared and with no knowledge :)
blazing condor
🙂
jagged pier
But imma say it, it was harder in terms on numbers than now like this version is easier for warrior than it was back then
jagged pier
blazing condor
no cope with proper movement i wouldve gotten it way early
waxen orbit
mage tower numbers wise is really easy
Copypasta imminent
blazing condor
i just like making super easy things a bit harder you know 😎
get myself a real challenge
jagged pier
idk this version of mage tower is easy 4 me but i have severe psychosis and whenever i play wow i just sort of zone out like im not in my body and im just playing my character on auto pilot or something dodging mechanics and doing big dam its pretty crazy but thats just who i am
blazing condor
idk this version of mage tower was apparently hard 4 me
waxen orbit
Why did you just post a Principal Skinner fancam
halcyon crest
Yooo all
My dwarf prot warri is getting a rename! Any suggestions? Funny names welcome
strong forum
fortnite
blazing condor
@jagged pier u want that boost m8
sweet summit
yea
jagged pier
Give me 30 mins if u want me to play if i can just afk at entrance i can come.now
blazing condor
id rather have you play 
blazing condor
@ionic fern
waxen orbit
Yooo all
My dwarf prot warri is getting a rename! Any suggestions? Funny names w...
Balomir
Nice dwarf ring to it
balmy edge
Does Ultimate Form not work on painsmith orbs anymore? Died two weeks in a row now trying to fleshcraft through them.
waxen orbit
Tolkien-esque and everything
ionic fern
Yes?
blazing condor
boost time
blazing condor
in 30
balmy edge
CC Immunity from channel doesn't seem to work. Anyone got intel on if end of cast immunity still works?
blazing condor
memory
chilly brook
Does Ultimate Form not work on painsmith orbs anymore? Died two weeks in a row n...
Afaik you never flash crafted the balls only the spikes
Balls do stupid amounts of damage
Spikes not so much
Really you shouldn't do either though
balmy edge
Three weeks back and before that I always just chilled in p2 and fleshcrafted through the balls with marileth
since cc doesn't hit it doesn't do dmg
idk maybe they shadownerfed it
will go for full channel and see if the 3sec window works next reset
jagged pier
@blazing condor @ionic fern LETS GO]
sweet summit
didn't ping me
jagged pier
and @sweet summit erga if ya want
sweet summit
blazing condor
everybody welcome
ionic fern
What do we even have? 👀
Am i healing?
sweet summit
ionic fern
Ok, so i AM healing.
jagged pier
😎
strong forum
who needs healing
oblique garnet
Ditched yet again i see 
jagged pier
first to log on gets invite
ionic fern
😂
strong forum
Can I get a stream
yes
oblique garnet
What affixes is it
oblique garnet
And
ionic fern
Inspiring/Grievous.
strong forum
idk
sweet summit
👍
ionic fern
oblique garnet
Better not see any reprisals @strong forum @sweet summit @blazing condor @jagged pier @ionic fern
strong forum
ionic fern
Leaper?
oblique garnet
jagged pier
sweet summit
crit vers bigger damage
ionic fern
jagged pier
strong forum
:POG
oblique garnet
I can respect the hustle but youre gonna lose in dps
jagged pier
I can respect the hustle but youre gonna lose in dps <:sadga:869134702970273812>
yer but we doing PF
so need a buff boy
jagged pier
and im necro atm
oblique garnet
so need a buff boy
Why
blazing condor
253 ilvl 
oblique garnet
Its 15
blazing condor
how u doin
strong forum
yes
oblique garnet
242 god here
Yikes youre 14 ilvls lower than me
jagged pier
yah but slime buffs on 3 bosses gunna be big
oblique garnet
I dont even have 259 shield or wep yet
jagged pier
🤔
edgy cradle
is there a discord for shaman?
sweet summit
sinful tendon
guys quick question, whats the main defences for prot?
sweet summit
wdym
sinful tendon
defence abilities to use in something like m+' just started tanking the other day
edgy cradle
@sweet summit is 4.1k dps as resto good?
edgy cradle
sweet summit
i don't know
sinful tendon
how do u show covenants. is that details?
balmy edge
guys quick question, whats the main defences for prot?
Weekly? Keep SB up and spam revenge wiv leggo
High key? Keep SB up and spam IP 😠
oblique garnet
Could be higher if pulls were better
oblique garnet
8k but thats also more of an high key thing
Everyone in that group has kinda low damage
edgy cradle
8k seems crazy ahahaha
candid path
DPS per mob would be a more useful metric, but it's just not standard/easy to track
The reason a higher-end Warrior is going to do 8k-ish is because they can handle larger pulls, they're not just going to sustain 8k ST DPS, obviously
oblique garnet
@sweet summit show dps of run
oblique garnet
The reason a higher-end Warrior is going to do 8k-ish is because they can handle...
We were talking about healer dps
candid path
Oh whatevs
fallow cape
is there a haste breakpoint for prot
candid path
No
oblique garnet
No
fallow cape
hell yes brothers
jagged pier
<@165864577760755712> show dps of run
oblique garnet
You can easily do 10k + dps on warrjor now
fallow cape
im at 52% with into the fray
oblique garnet
This is embarassing team i expected more fun pulls not pack by pack
oblique garnet
Sure you can
Probably not in plaguefall but any other dungeon
You all should play NF for the heal @jagged pier
modern brook
ergaw owns
oblique garnet
Ergaw struggled with living
modern brook
dont we all though?
lucid dew
Anyone know if there are cheat death trinkets from old expansions for mage tower
chrome zealot
I don’t remember any cheat deaths from other expansions on the top of my head. I know BFA had one that gave a big asorb if you dropped to low hp
Oh wait, I think there was a cheat death from dazalor raid in bfa, think it gave you a healing asirb though for how much it healed you
patent osprey
doesnt that appear when u leave group quick
kek
U can see the other guy in the group in the picture there Xd
jagged pier
but erga still in the group
sweet summit
idk man
sweet summit
gaming
chrome zealot
Why bring dps and healer when tank work 😎
blazing condor
im just tryna make the SF feel good about themselves 🙂
sweet summit
overall plummets when bosses take 5 years to die :/
oblique garnet
Erga doesn't have to smash heal buttons cause he has like 20% leech
Yeah dont you all?
ionic fern
I wish. 😦
sweet summit
wtb more leech tbh
chrome zealot
What if pull the entire dungeon on each boss 😄
oblique garnet
Dont need to press healing buttons if mobs die quick 🙂
strong forum
DROP ILVL FOR LEECH?=!=?!
oblique garnet
What if pull the entire dungeon on each boss 😄
Thats what i kept telling them but they wouldnt listen
oblique garnet
strong forum
this key was a score upgrade for me btw
ionic fern
LOL
oblique garnet
Erga playing with thr leech shard and absorb shard
oblique garnet
Ofc hes gonna leech more than everyone else then xd
How many actual gear pieces you have with leech
ionic fern
He had like 13% from gear? 👀
blazing condor
how much leech do i need to do a +17 all prot key?
sweet summit
trying
oblique garnet
how much leech do i need to do a +17 all prot key?
0
You shouldve abused the SF for free tips and tricks while they arent busy sleeping or being absent 8)
ionic fern
True.
blazing condor
i was too nervous to even look their characters in the eyes
jagged pier
Its time to hibernate till new raid
sweet summit
:wicked:
jagged pier
GAMING
blazing condor
+17 keys logs :pogchamp:
blazing condor
strong forum
yeah its all on stream
oblique garnet
Also erga why floorpov with 13% leecg
blazing condor
Well it's all part of boosting you're always gonna get some bad players to boost
sweet summit
don't have rage for shield block
and they never intervened me
or taunted
not my fault
sweet summit
revenge
oblique garnet
sweet summit
blazing condor
who had the log?
sweet summit
1/4
ionic fern
😂
sweet summit
hehe
ionic fern
who had the log?
Pretty sure it's not personal.
So you can just check under your own character.
blazing condor
o ya
sweet summit
ty for the intervenes @strong forum :/
blazing condor
blazing condor
yeah honestly 
strong forum
if i had played reprisal i prolly woulda done the same if not more dmg
than i did right now
blazing condor
im kinda dog with seismic
blazing condor
being washed up as a SF:
being washed up as a Valarjar: 😎
sweet summit
We're all washed up, it's fine.
speak for yourselves 😎
jagged pier
Its fine @ionic fern at least we are all washed up together
jagged pier
☝️
oblique garnet
speak for yourselves 😎
Debatable
sweet summit
ionic fern
WHen we getting the Late vs Erga showdown.
jagged pier
:o
ionic fern
Duel infront of OG gogogo
oblique garnet
Try again in 2 weeks when the world stops spinning
ionic fern
👀
blazing condor
world ending in 2 weeks confirmed
blazing condor
no more taxes
strong forum
world ending in 2 weeks confirmed <:wokege:878564603137761342>
MH:rise releases in 2 weeks no!
shut up
oblique garnet
I dont think ive ever gotten this sick
blazing condor
maybe the real monsters were the friends we hunted along the way
sweet summit
did the rona get u
ionic fern
blazing condor
where's kleia when u need her
oblique garnet
did the rona get u <:pepsihands:589678101446000670>
Yeah unfortunately
sweet summit
praying for u🙏
ionic fern
Get well soon.
sweet summit
get well soon
blazing condor
Feel better 😿
oblique garnet
blazing condor
🥀
raven sluice
Any particular horde race that is better for prot than others?
strong forum
nothing that will actively impact your gameplay or stop you from doing X
waxen orbit
Anyone know if Poxstorm could be decent despite being Agi?
I just got traded one because no one needed it
dawn canyon
howd you get your hands on a veinripper?
strong forum
get one traded
needs to be mythic ilvl for it to be remotely worth
but in other news
dawn canyon
good news everyone
dawn canyon
sounds annoying
tbh
yes you get to press a lot of buttons
but once you have that haste you also need to press those buttons for it to be worth
and uh i have the feeling my hand would fall off
sick sentinel
60% haste be like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is7W5m_ug7E
strong forum
in bfa we had loads of situations where id get 140% haste just by myself
without haste amps
dawn canyon
ive had my fury at 230% haste w/ lust on muezala
strong forum
just procs
dawn canyon
ive had my fury at 230% haste w/ lust on muezala
and the game just doesnt work at that point
globals are so fucking buggy then
sick sentinel
the hunter i played with briefly kept saying he was getting 1100% haste during lust i guess?
strong forum
well thats cuz fury
sick sentinel
i don't really understand ubt
strong forum
1100% is not possible
like sure, maybe 200% if you have a billion procs
but 1100% is not possible
sick sentinel
was BFA, but maybe with lust and his buffs he was at 110.0%
and was reading it was 1100% lmao
strong forum
thats more reasonable
oblique garnet
Anyone know if Poxstorm could be decent despite being Agi?
Poxstorm isnt good on agi uses either anymore
distant crystal
Poxstorm isnt good on agi uses either anymore
it's a lil bit of free dmg
not gonna beat the str loss for sure but should beat any other agi weapon at same ilvl
cept ripper
urban portal
Yeah pox beats everything on same ilvl
fiery badge
So I got KSM as a DPS , looking to get into tanking thinking of a Prot warrior. Do I have have to be a 10head to play Prot warr?
inland raft
shield block bad hits, revenj goes brr zug zug
mellow bridge
There are easier tanks but prot isn't particularly difficult or complex either
ocean yoke
its simple hit shield block and if you ever die roll a die to decide who to blame
my strat
modern brook
i'm dumb as fuck and i can play it somwehat well <:okayge:917646812519739433>
Bad example
Ergaw owns
sweet summit
teal swift
There are easier tanks but prot isn't particularly difficult or complex either
Can't think of a worse tank for sylv tbh
Fights built to fuck pwar
teal swift
mental scarab
Prot channel is one of the most fun and interesting class discord
mental scarab
Yea it goes from Nasa level brain to farmer in the Wood zug zug
blazing condor
Cant be washed up if you were never good to begin with 😎
mental scarab
And no cunty people realy
jagged pier
Cant be washed up if you were never good to begin with 😎
THIS ACTUALLY
mental scarab
Haha
blazing condor
Im still swimming
ionic fern
And no cunty people realy
That can be fixed tho.
I'll take the role of the meanie, it's fine.
mental scarab
blazing condor
Doubt
mental scarab
See best channel
blazing condor
Bring forth Bulli-fango
ionic fern
Silence @blazing condor
ionic fern
Oh right, that was lower.
blazing condor
Wait no
ionic fern
What totem. 👀
blazing condor
In DoS 🙂
jagged pier
Silence <@!186864948343865344>
KEKW
regal glen
No shame in dying in m+
blazing condor
😎
blazing condor
sick sentinel
Biggest shame under pulling by 0.04% and then killing last boss halls 5 seconds to go, but nope, have to go back to start and deplete 13
blazing condor
How do you even underpull by that little? You mustve left out like that one groundskeeper on the right side at the start
Thats not chained to the pack
sick sentinel
I'm starting to get tired of this shit
blazing condor
Its legit difficult to underpull like that lol
ionic fern
I'm starting to get tired of this shit
Starting to get tired of your own mistakes?
blazing condor
One of us
sick sentinel
I'm starting of getting tired of giving a fuck any more
blazing condor
Its all about having fun
ionic fern
Don't play then.
sick sentinel
It's fun and games until you're wiping to what feels like nothing
ionic fern
All you do recently is come here and complain about how you're tired of that crap...either stop playing(or focus your play on something other than m+) or actually start taking our advise and improve.
blazing condor
Yogi pvp arch????
sick sentinel
Doubtful
I'm just tired of playing repair bill and no loot simulator
For effort that it really shouldn't require
regal glen
Same bro, I feel you
sick sentinel
Fuck wow, so upset with how bad it's all been turning last 2 years
Not even mentioning the allegations
blazing condor
I mean
Just dont play then
Why do something you dont enjoy
Pick it up again later if you get the urge
Stop torturing yourself
sick sentinel
No replacement activity
regal glen
Gotta stick it to the man, play more
regal glen
2 pwars are always better than one
blazing condor
5 is apparently the good combination
regal glen
Clearly not
blazing condor
I’d be curious to see how far you could actually push keys with 5 pwarrs
regal glen
Since you still died
blazing condor
Literally who are you
ionic fern
I got 18 SD from that dos
blazing condor
Replace me with Late and its gg
sick sentinel
Stop torturing yourself
blazing condor
Easy portals
sick sentinel
He chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace, and with boiling blood he scoured the umbral plains, seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him.
blazing condor
regal glen
Literally who are you
Literally nr 1 warrior frfr
blazing condor
I got 18 SD from that dos
Like these affixes are ass as well so its very easy
with better weeks
sick sentinel
Or from wolfenstien "I am death incarnate" :)
sick sentinel
Normally, I would be okay putting myself under this kinda stress it's what I've grown accustom to
Last few years less tolerance for going hard
dawn canyon
Yogi let me Teamviewer ur pc and i’ll uninstall for you
Based
sick sentinel
We'll just see about that
ionic fern
Tanking pugs will make you a better tank as long as you are constantly looking to improve yourself.
You will start paying attention to the things that pug's do and learn how to resolve them.
-Positioning
-Interrupts
-Kiting
-Pulls
-CD usage
-routing in general
sick sentinel
If I didn't have the asmongold upbringing where my mom reads to me the hobbit when I'm kid and I get warcraft 3 as birthday gift when I'm like 20 from them might be easier to walk away
regal glen
What? Hahahahaha
blazing condor
how old are you yogi?
sick sentinel
Boomer af
sick sentinel
Nearly 40
sick sentinel
I've stated it a few times
I'll wait till 9.2 and if that still feels bad to play I'll break a few if 10.0 sucks I'm skipping it or done
just play some low keys
that u know u can time
untilt
dawn canyon
Id be happy if you could tank my 9 on Horde
sick sentinel
Just the game in general, there was probably huge factor that I had friends and gm with new friends in bfa
I'm just not happy with the game and the maw doesn't help at all
Feels like actual literal purgatory Los level of hell everything about it plus its largely barren
what are you doing in the maw tho
Nothing
Literal nothing
regal glen
Then why go there
sick sentinel
Haven't done anything there in a month
go somewhere u like then
maw is pretty useless
That's exactly it, it's such a shifty and depressing place to be I actively subconsciously avoid it
but you literally have no reason to go there
im not sure why that's an issue
blazing condor
This man needs to go chill in nagrand for a bit
sick sentinel
If I wanted to get conduits a d research past lvl 4
i dont think ive been to the actual maw since 9.1 release
i mean that takes
couple hours
but also doesnt even matter if you cba to do it
Again, I'm still at l4 research never done any of it at all past li,e 3 months
Because it's a very depressing zone to be in at least for me
lucky you dont have to go
ever
sick sentinel
that's like saying you don't like the town you live in because of a street that you haven't gone down for 3 months
and never ever have to go down
doesnt make much sense
Yeah I just can't be arsed any more to do all these dailies and callings and weeklies
you get nothing out of them?
ionic fern
I'm also confused.
You've timed all your last runs according to R.io..?
So you're just complaining every time you happen to deplete one? 👀
sick sentinel
like the content you are listing does absolutely nothing for your character in the greater scheme
regal glen
Literally me fr fr
sick sentinel
I'm nit-picking now but on the raider is site on right hand side it only shows timed runs
dawn canyon
I havent been to torghast in 2 months and ive never felt better
sick sentinel
yeah i did all my covenants the day 915 came out
and now im chillin
never have to go back
dawn canyon
need one run of torg to be able to craft leggo for 9.2
sick sentinel
Torggast is okay
I enjoy torgy when I go to do it, I did not enjoy dpha ING to do it twice a week per character In 9.0
im glad we live in the present :)
That's why my mage is dead couldn't finish torghast in time and did it on warrior instead, never touched ,age since
anyway is there any actual issues you feel about the game that matter or are you just a bit tilted
maybe you gotta just go farm some mounts or some cool xmog for an hour or 2
I just knew had to do torghast on one of them and had like hour left when I started
There is too many issue I have with the game to type it and have it come out as coherent
but how many of those issues actually matter
like for example your issue with the maw
you gain nothing from being there anyway
you can avoid that at all costs and nothing bad will happen
same with like callings etc
they just give you a bit of rep and a tiny bit of gold
Like here's a very minor example , the 2 mobs at top of left and right stairs, very start of halls when you engage them, the caster decides to hover 10 feet In the air and cast shit so only thing you can do is have its spell interrupted and move it so it's on the ground and you can melee it because pretty sure you can't when it's in the air
ionic fern
Ok, so interrupt it? 👀
sick sentinel
It's been there since 9.0 and I've opted it happens every single time
which caster?
ionic fern
My serious advise to you is:
Stop playing the game as it seems like you're just being tilted by almost everything in it. 🙂
blazing condor
Yeah honestly
Why tf are you still playing
Tell me one reason why you still play the game
jagged pier
I only play for SH weekly atm
inland raft
Yup everyone has constantly given advice and you just get more and more tilted
Find something you enjoy man
ionic fern
I only play for SH weekly atm <:copium:839076283467431956>
This.
I don't even log onto WoW outside of that. 🤷
strong forum
I've done 2 keys, surely that must be enough for 2 vaults
inland raft
I got dragged to a timewalking key for guildy alts yesterday
jagged pier
First time ive had fun in the game putside of raid for months
inland raft
That should be good for a year
ionic fern
"BUT PROT HAS NO SELF SUSTAIN BRUH"
sick sentinel
i've had a lot of fun playing cod and no wow
blazing condor
It actually was fun
sick sentinel
no consequence kill lots of people game
ionic fern
The saddest thing about the keys last evening was that our overall DPS was higher than my average PuG DPS'ers.
ionic fern
jagged pier
blazing condor
Nerf SFs
jagged pier
sick sentinel
time to see how i can deplete 12 spires
regal glen
Just don't
sick sentinel
people yelled at me for runing other peoples keys
so i now only run whatever is in my bags
it is what it is
sweet summit
what's wrong with being bottom 
blazing condor
Ask ur dad lol
sweet summit
wtf
sick sentinel
only thing at all that went wrong on spires 12 was healer wasn't able to get everyone to 100% since i didn't use spear at right time on add and got overzealous pulled early (final)
dk died to something mystery again relatively same spot
sick sentinel
time for shitty ms paint drawing
blazing condor
5 tanks with no real self healing (except erga) who could run the dungeons
sweet summit
sick sentinel
final boss platform of spires,
so, i took that mob to there in ordr so that i could pull boss and let it put its shit there by not using spear well
but then forgot to account for using spear and it did a bunch of group damage and when i overzealous pull boss early, bit too low and wipe
before 9.2 i would love to see SHW of 5 prot one with each 262 cov leggo and a reprisal probably
acoustic willow
Is it ok not to run Ravager if I’m only doing Heroic and M+ up to 20? My uptime isn’t very good on it
ionic fern
Just use it on cd..
sick sentinel
it feels like (insert horrible disease here) to play though
dawn canyon
macro it to ip with an @heavy mirage cast 
oh we're pinging this poor guy for every macro :monkaS:
sick sentinel
results from the 12 i had low dps
ionic fern
Why are you posting random pictures? We've already gone over this with you and these pictures just prove the point. You are not taking our advise.
sick sentinel
to uninstall
or something else
last thing i can recall being suggested to do is go watch some pwar video on youtube m+ and i searched from pika and probably someone else but the last pika video i see about m+ is from 10 months ago now
then i found beefyboi, which you guys were in agreement that he wasn't all that good and his new videos are of him doing 17-22's as dps warrior
ionic fern
We've had long discussions about how you can improve for months now with the majority being "press your buttons more".
Bullfango even made a hour long video analyzing your play..
At some point it just becomes repetitive and feels like you are ignoring our advise just so you could continue complaining
nocturne sage
Basic tanking question: Does anyone unbind their turn keys (A + D) to avoid mobs/bosses hitting you from behind?
ionic fern
Not me..
jagged pier
A and D should be strafe not turn
cinder pasture
^
ionic fern
Also that.
nocturne sage
Oops, I may have misspoke, but yeah I kinda feel I’m turning too much and not making proper use of basic tanking things
jagged pier
same
nocturne sage
Ooo, I need to try that
jagged pier
thats not somthing u try its somthing u need to do
strong forum
^
nocturne sage
Coming from DPS i need to adjust my play style to be less….lazy
strong forum
keyboard turning shouldnt exist
nocturne sage
Well, I’ve been getting away with it just from being lazy and whatnot, obviously not a good idea haha
sick sentinel
so, even when theres no mechanics going on just some random do nothing pack i'm just not performing rotation properly? or constantly moving away if i'm doing it right?
ionic fern
Your rotation is there to generate you rage which in turn leads to higher DPS output and defensive usage.
If you can't get your rotation right and/or use your rage properly you are not going anywhere.
You can't just skip the basics and hop to some "godlike level".
sick sentinel
I have a hard time determining at what point of the rotation i am currently at
and then what the next action should be
ionic fern
Logs would help with that.
strong forum
well
sick sentinel
4k i'm clearly doing something wrong though
and its always been that way even in BFA nomer complained i have low dps
ionic fern
Have you logged anything?
sick sentinel
so whatever causes low dps is my issue
strong forum
not pressing buttons causes low dps
back in BFA you were a clicker
you missed major rotational buttons and defensive usage back then
often overcompensated by hastily pressing the wrong button
so youd use both SB charges instantly
then you wouldnt dump rage with IP, other times youd press IP when you should press SB
sick sentinel
ionic fern
With Reprisal
ionic fern
Wouldn't say soi..considering you only did 3.6k dps.
And now you're doing 4
Kinda the same.
strong forum
from what i can tell, its that you are just overwhelmed by everything going on and lack the ability to decide on what to do
situational awareness needs training
so you rush yourself to do something
sick sentinel
i could upload the run i just did but i was a tad bit salty in it
strong forum
thats alot of overcapping
ionic fern
Alot is a understatement.
No wonder you're doing no damage if you're wasting like half your rage generated.
sick sentinel
i have no idea when or what or where that log is
ionic fern
Does it matter?
It just shows you're not playing correctly.
There's literally no excuse for that.
blazing condor
🍿
sick sentinel
because then i can do more logs for current and compare? and if its not getting better still
sick sentinel
like i said i'd uplaod this recent run i did but healer was trying to act stuck up or something wasn't having any of it
ionic fern
What does it matter? 🤔
sick sentinel
i don't like to put stuff up like that where i'm being snarky with people
ionic fern
Upload a log.
Not a video.
We've gone over your videos and analysed them and it has gotten you nowhere.
sick sentinel
i'd have no idea if logs survive on pc or not
ionic fern
?
sick sentinel
i did get some loggerhead program and it kept asking me to log or no, and i didn't understand how it works
so god only knows what its logged
ionic fern
WoW directory->Retail->logs.
blazing condor
Plug the jakey video
jagged pier
How do i log ?
So, if you have been here for a while, you may have noticed that whenever somebody ask for advice we ask them for a log, and if you’re new you might have no idea what that means or how to get one so :
🔸 First, download Loggerhead (https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/loggerhead) or ERT (https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/exorsus-raid-tools)
Once you have one of these any time you enter a zone where you might want a log (ie dungeon/raid/torghast) these addons will automatically start logging (in the case of ERT you have to activate automated logging in the options).
Alternatively if you don’t want to install an addon for it, whenever you are going to do an activity you want to log type /combatlog in chat to start logging said activity.
Remember to activate advanced logging in the options (System -> Network -> Advanced Combat Logging)
All these options will store your logs in your wow file inside the retail folder and the log file.
🔸 Second, go here (https://www.warcraftlogs.com/client/download) download the client. Select the live section of the client, select the upload a log button and select the fight you’re interested in putting up as a log and boom you’re done.
🔸 Third, once you’ve done all this, your log is uploaded you can put it up here and we can look at it together to see if you’re doing something wrong.
If you wish look at your own log Jakey made a nice little video explaining what we look at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tRp8lULT8
sick sentinel
i gotta watch the video to figure out how to make sense of reading logs now
blazing condor
Understanding how to read and use logs to improve is probably the best way to do it
sweet summit
:revenj:
brittle owl
:revenj:
blazing condor
13cpm revenj with reprisal instead of seismic on 🙂
Some nerd count how much lost dmg a min that is
brittle owl
@ vel
sweet summit
sick sentinel
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mTY4Zb6L29rFGgAw/#fight=last&type=resources&spell=101&source=3 so like here for isntance is the run i just did
with the wasted rage
says i wasted like ~1000-1500
sweet summit
closer to 1500
dawn canyon
That's a lot of revenj
sweet summit
which is way too much
blazing condor
You got hit like 50 times by dark seeker
But thats another topic
Gotta stand in melee with the robot birds
sweet summit
press your buttons bro
sick sentinel
44 % block or whatever not impressed with that myself
thats the overheadsword line is it? (dark seeker)
next copper
I thought Dark seeker was the ranged attack the automatons used.
lime urchin
Dark seeker is something else, you can spell reflect that
lime urchin
He jumps away and does it
sweet summit
hate that mob it is very cringe !
lime urchin
But you can reflect it
sick sentinel
oh okay so i actually need to be ontop of him then
lime urchin
Yes but he jumps away
Which gives you a free charge!
And a spell reflect
Damage meter goes brrrrr
urban portal
Bullfango even made a hour long video analyzing your play..
where can i find that
lime urchin
last thing i can recall being suggested to do is go watch some pwar video on you...
Go to twitch and watch his videos there, you can rewatch his runs there 🙂
sweet summit
where can i find that
it was "only" like 30 minutes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l5H6cGEXxk
