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mighty valley
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Definitely do some world bosses in there somewhere

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Callings if they’re quick ones

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Probably do korthia weekly, assault, anima weekly, souls weekly along the way

tired bay
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World bosses give like 3 renown each if you do them at 50

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40**

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When you approach 50 itll be 1 each

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I used to just do world bosses - callings - smash torghast until i wanted to kill myself and then do some campaign

lime urchin
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There is no need to burn yourself out getting renown to max level imo

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Play game, do callings etc and content you like to do

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And you will be max renown before you can say hail primus!

blazing condor
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virgin "grind renown and covenants to try and min/max my character and try out different abilities" vs chad "i picked kyrian"

strong forum
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58 renown is enough

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After that you get barely any player power

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Irrelevant amounts

blazing condor
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mikanikos

honest plinth
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Hes qt right? :)

blazing condor
sweet summit
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so true bestie !

stable cradle
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Bron is the real hero of mikanikos soulbind - change my mind

sweet summit
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wrong

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bron sux

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😠

stable cradle
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Bron chan is number 1

brittle owl
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shut up gaara fanboi

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mikanikos numbah wan

blazing condor
sweet summit
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true !!!

blazing condor
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thx for ur support, Erga!!

rotund thicket
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hey guys, since i have around 1,3k haste, should i get versa enchants and sockets? my rl mentioned that at some point haste should be worse then versa πŸ™‚

jagged pier
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nope

rotund thicket
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so im gucci with 60% haste infight? (with OWS ofc)

jagged pier
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u want 40% haste un buffed

rotund thicket
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even on fights like fate and sylvi? with heavy dot dmg?

jagged pier
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yes

rotund thicket
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alright, ty

mellow bridge
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Does OWS count for the haste dr cap?

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I'm actually not sure

blazing condor
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i thought it did

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but idk

brittle owl
strong forum
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Yes it does

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How often do I have to explain this

strong forum
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If you get haste rating, it counts towards the stat DR

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If its haste %, it doesn't

blazing condor
mellow bridge
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Don't be disappointed dad

brittle owl
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getting 1% extra or less vers from gems/enchants is the sort of minmax that makes no sense for anyone outside HoF or those rare giga efficient guilds that wanna have as low a pullcount as possible

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also wtf is this emote

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why does it exist, this isnt dreamgrove

mellow bridge
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It's for when dad is disappointed

brittle owl
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no that's a simp emote

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this aint a simp discord

blazing condor
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isnt ows kinda ass to use if you got base 40 haste then

sweet summit
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seramore

blazing condor
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or does it not matter

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idk how much the DR% actually is

sweet summit
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20% @ 40%

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so u get 8 instead of 10

blazing condor
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where's the next cap?

strong forum
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30-39 - 10% dr
40-49 - 20% dr

blazing condor
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if any

brittle owl
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🧒

jagged pier
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🧒

brittle owl
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heres your cap

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now go stack haste

blazing condor
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stack these nuts

strong forum
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Past 50 you get like 30% dr and 60-126% is 50% DR

mellow bridge
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That's a boring cap

strong forum
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Smth like that

mellow bridge
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Thought you had better style than that

brittle owl
sweet summit
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yankee with no brim

blazing condor
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πŸ‘²

brittle owl
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yank my nuts

strong forum
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Oh god

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Stop erga

blazing condor
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allah the almighty smite down this infidel

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for his words are like sandpaper to my ears

brittle owl
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sand my nuts

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wait

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what

brittle owl
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i did not see that coming

sweet summit
mellow bridge
rotund thicket
strong forum
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:)

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Overcompensated

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Removed corruption, which enabled the Degen stacking in the first place, then implemented stat tax, but you can't reach the relevant ones anyway even with max gear

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It's in place now, but nobody actually cares about that

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All it does is, if you can somehow (which you barely can) reach 40% of raw stats rating of 1 stat, youll start looking into other stats.

That's all

rotund thicket
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but we will most likly reach the 40% with 9.2 right? should we then consider going vers as soon as we reached that breakpoint? or is the DR haste still better?

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i mean i have 42,81% with OWS 5 Stacks thats why im asking πŸ˜„

strong forum
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Yeah you're a rare case

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Of having haste on literally every slot

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Is it 42% with OWS and ITF, or legit 42% haste rating

blazing condor
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I got 30% haste and run OWS

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Feel like thats fine enough

tardy sequoia
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regarding shitty pulls, can someone tell me what happened in this short lived key?

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in order to avoid in the future

tardy sequoia
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that's it?

gaunt dawn
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that killed two people

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which then made loads of other shit happen

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interrupts on it should be pre-assigned

tardy sequoia
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yeah it was premade

strong forum
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Classic mistake, don't pull the tide emissary ontop of them!

blazing condor
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Fuck the bubble emissary

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Boing boing boing

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Heroic throwing that bisch because no one else would wanna tag it

fringe marten
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? What emissary? We doing BFA again?

modern brook
sick sentinel
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bfa? if i could get that paladin and DK for TW bfa we'd destroy it

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i swear we must have did a million keys in bfa, thats how it felt at least

tardy sequoia
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and now? we finished the dungeon with just 1 min remaining

blazing condor
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Tbf HoA is a tight dungeon

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If you dont pull big every pack

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Also that log isnt working properly

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Doesnt seem to be logging the entire dungeon but maybe i cant see on mobile

mellow bridge
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yea the log is weird

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but one thing that you can see anyways is a lot of very random unnecessary deaths

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like to frontals or even the lasers on first boss

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those will cost you a lot of time and are generally easy to fix

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Frontals might be on you as the tank if you are moving the mobs erratically

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Put a marker on your head and try to always keep them looking in the same general direction

tardy sequoia
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also, is there a vid on how to correctly move the 1st boss?

mellow bridge
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just look at some high key hoa videos

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and watch how they do it

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altho they probably skip the tormentor there which you arent doing I assume

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so you have more space to work with

tardy sequoia
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how many casts does the boss have before going lasers?

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i mean both on me and dps

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cause DBM isn't working properly

mellow bridge
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you can look at his energy

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he starts spinning at 100

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I dont remember the exact amount ngl

tardy sequoia
blazing condor
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I think he always do this now(???) otherwise look at his energy and DBM

mellow bridge
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what keylvl are you doing malaachi

tardy sequoia
mellow bridge
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you shouldnt need to do that then tbh

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like it's not that hard to play endboss with sogg debuff (and without the magic dr)

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but if you need it for the timer, you should be looking at your pull sizes and group dps

tardy sequoia
mellow bridge
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it's just the first one that doesnt work properly with the timers I think

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anyways just look at his energy

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and he will always do a smash right before lasers iirc, so you can just drag him into the new puddle usually

blazing condor
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First for me has always been 4 slams

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And directly after 4 he beams

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And iirc (havent done hoa in 3 months) its like that throughout the fight now

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In 9.0 it was different and more irregular

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So look at count and look at energy if ur unsure

tardy sequoia
sick sentinel
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they added some new 500g incense item that grants you all of your conduits at 200ilvl at the BOA vendor in oribos beside the flight master at top level between blue and white portal

blazing condor
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Pog

modern brook
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Doesn't m0 give 213

mellow bridge
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not all conduits drop in m0 tho

lime urchin
modern brook
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Hoa 1st laser timer fake as fuck yeh

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P sure it'd 4 slams

tardy sequoia
honest plinth
mellow bridge
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yeah just checked

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it only drops 184

modern brook
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Ahhh game sucks

mellow bridge
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well

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a bit less now with that item

sick sentinel
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they added this last night for alts

lime urchin
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Well that’s how I mostly do it, but perhaps I am missing a certain logic behind the encounter

lofty widget
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you can judge by the energy bar, the first sequence ends with a slam, next one ends with a throw, then slam etc

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you can use that to judge when to move out

tardy sequoia
frail oar
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Made it to Variss 40% πŸ™‚

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in what should be around my 60th try

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i'm starting to see some progress thanks to all your recommandations

blazing condor
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you can do it

blazing condor
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i can only get loot from bosses ive killed on mythic right in mythic vault

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i cant remember

sweet summit
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killed ever, not limited the week

blazing condor
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yup ok thanku

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@sweet summit why dont you got the "fury" role in disc btw

sweet summit
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not good enough okayge

blazing condor
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at least youre good enough to be in the prot-shitter peepoHappy

sweet summit
blazing condor
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they still havent added a tp from ve'nari to raid?

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wait nvm am dum

sweet summit
modern brook
blazing condor
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I SAID WAIT NVM!!!!

blazing condor
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hells yeah brothers we in this 5/10 hc pug

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πŸ™ rdm

ocean yoke
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huge get it

sweet summit
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gl bro

nocturne sage
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I am on the struggle bus with trying to keep SB up with Reprisal in raid, any tips?

blazing condor
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didnt get it

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had to play as arms too

sweet summit
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next week

blazing condor
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no

sweet summit
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vault it

blazing condor
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then i have to do more SoD and fuck that

lime urchin
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It really should be a non issue

blazing condor
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it's easy to weave in charges and intervenes even when holding aggro

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bosses dont really move if you leap > charge or just walk out > charge

nocturne sage
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Its the walk out > charge that I have most problems with, or maybe I'm just being super lazy haha

blazing condor
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whats your sb% right now on bosses?

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effective uptime

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if you got a log

nocturne sage
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pretty low, typically 10-20% at most, maybe one or two 20%+ if i'm having a good day

blazing condor
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if that is effective uptime

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then you have way more problems lmao

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thats like - not pressing SB at all territory

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if you dont use reprisal and just use shield block you got way more than 20% so maybe you're just looking at full uptime and not effective ones

nocturne sage
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Then I've been reading my logs wrong....oops

blazing condor
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Can you link a log?

nocturne sage
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Trying to find one where I was tanking, so it'll be a minute

mellow bridge
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you want to look at your damage taken

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find melees

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and hover over it with your mouse

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you can do the same for blockable abilities iirc but melees should usually be the first thing you look at

nocturne sage
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Alright, so I'm feeling quite dumb, I've been looking at the % damage blocked/staggered

mellow bridge
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should look like this

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when you hover it

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in this screenshot I blocked 88% of all melees and didnt block 12%

nocturne sage
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Ohhhh, wow, yeah I am dumb

mellow bridge
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so what % are you at

nocturne sage
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50ish% to 82% depending on the fight

mellow bridge
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Raid fight?

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50% is really low

nocturne sage
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Yes, only heroic too

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Painsmith and Soulrender are at 54%

mellow bridge
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Sounds like you are either wasting your blocks when you're not getting hit

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Or you're just sitting on charges

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And basically not using reprisal at all

nocturne sage
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Most likely both

livid venture
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should be looking at this in bottom right by mouseover on hits column to see how many are blocked vs not

nocturne sage
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Yeah, I'm definitely not using Reprisal as it should be used

mellow bridge
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eh w/e

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same shit basically

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actually you just made me realize

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my blocked % is better than I thought LOL

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slightly higher

ocean yoke
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i swear every time i play an alt and we have a prot warrior theyre constantly whirlwinding

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why does this keep happening

chilly brook
nocturne sage
blazing condor
ocean yoke
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it is a powerful instinct

jagged pier
ocean yoke
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none of them have been sadly

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at least i assume average damage hit with it would be over 400

rotund thicket
coral quartz
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if I'm starting out as prot, what 2 legos should i craft first for M+ and then for raids? I see heavy rep but for all high keys which im not geared enough for yet, and for raids I see WClogs showing legos all over the board. I'm kyrian for what its worth too.

rotund thicket
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Reprisal is awesome if you get into the playstyle

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for both, Raids and M+

modern brook
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Wall is used on some raid fights with low blockable damage

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Reverb used on joke keys

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Reprisal is optimal or near optimal in basically every situation

rotund thicket
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Glory is good in raids if you thinking of playing necro πŸ™‚

coral quartz
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perfect, ty all!

modern brook
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Glory is for parse whoring guardian

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At least currently

rotund thicket
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tbh, if played correctly its 45+ sec of 20% strength, 400 mastery and 30% MS

chilly brook
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I did it for one raid and it was 50ish seconds

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With reprisal next tier and glory lmao

rotund thicket
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i play it on sylvannas and get like 45 sec each time

patent osprey
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did you guys know you can rely on someone else's keystone to run a new dungeon?

sweet summit
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you didn't get a new key after doing a dungeon?!

patent osprey
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nope

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didnt get one no matter what i tried

sweet summit
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that is very cool and epic

mighty valley
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in the future i will be relying on someone else's keystone to run a new dungeon

rotund thicket
jagged pier
chilly brook
jagged pier
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With rep its gunna be close to 100 uptime we think

strong forum
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What am I missing here

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Oh I guess it's meant sarcastically

strong forum
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Yeah took me a while to understand that it was meant sarcastically

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My brain no work too well

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I did like 16hrs of work in 9hrs today, majorly fried

lament zealot
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I had a 40hp wipe on Magetower yesterday. That felt pretty good.

strong forum
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Nice

chilly brook
strong forum
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I mean he did say wipe

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So I'd say yeah, Velen died

chilly brook
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Oof

sturdy sable
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Dude cant take a hit to save his life

sweet summit
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he sucks 😠

jagged pier
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well it is a tank challenge of course your group cant take a hit just like pugging

ionic fern
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I'll believe it when i see it.

jagged pier
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THIS

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also welcome back mwahi

patent osprey
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I was streaming last night 😦

ionic fern
ionic fern
rotund thicket
strong forum
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Ya in that case I'd stop going for haste

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Ows is practically perma haste

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And you have too much

rotund thicket
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would you drop OWS then? im at 37% without it

strong forum
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Either that, or look into other rings/neck

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Ring/neck alone make up like half your stat budget

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Easiest slots to min max

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Or just drop ows, also works

modern brook
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Hardest of caps

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2nd break point is 453345 which is currently unreachable

rotund thicket
lament zealot
sweet summit
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good shit

chilly brook
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That's bigger than me

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5% wipe proceeded by like 10 p1 wipes after before I killed

jagged pier
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.4% wipe followed by 12 hours of attempts on druid for me

strong forum
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Rng bro

jagged pier
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me being shit

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more like

modern brook
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Jakey owns

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Please do not bully jakey

jagged pier
gloomy cradle
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He has a vulnerable soul, don’t take advantage

sick sentinel
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my new keyboard has arrived

dawn canyon
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Huge W

sick sentinel
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been trying out sub rogue and lock, i'm not very good at it yet but i could learn to love it

blazing condor
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The yoginator is spreading

hushed creek
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mage tower is so crap. I can't get last 5% . I need more "umpf" or anything πŸ˜„

jagged pier
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i dunno that video seems completely off tbh

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like ufh shouldnt be our issue we have execute

hushed creek
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mage tower on prot pala is just way easier πŸ™‚

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without mechagon trinket it would be even worse I think ,almost 5k dmg is gold

jagged pier
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its all about comfort of class

blazing condor
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revenge kinda trucks in MT tbh

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you only really need 2 casts to kill all the ads

strong forum
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from what ive heard is that prot pally plays the worst (next to druid) in MT

mellow bridge
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idk why people say that

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didnt feel any harder than e.g. warr to me

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I guess they dont have a safe against getting knocked off

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but both surviving and the dmg check are really easy

strong forum
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people said its cuz lack of divine toll

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cuz they lack HP influx through that

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and also way less aoe dmg

hushed creek
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None of you feel that p1 is bit too long ? I guess you're just good and I'm not πŸ™‚

blazing condor
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p1 is boring as fuck

strong forum
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p1 is chill AF

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less than 3min long

blazing condor
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p1 is just patience really

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cus i just wanna get out of there

strong forum
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if you take more than 3min in p1 youre not playing aggressive enough

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for example @hushed creek in your video you already made 2 mistakes of leaving the pool too early

blazing condor
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i played my p1 slow asf

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think it was like 3:40 or something

echo canyon
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play def trinket in mage tower or dps?

strong forum
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dps

echo canyon
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phial and second?

strong forum
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phial is actually quite terrible in there

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so id recommend other trinkets, like the one from the eye

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sack does huge amounts of dmg, if you have the cyclotronic blast from BFA that one is OP

echo canyon
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just have shadowland trinkets

strong forum
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matrix can be good, albeit a bit RNG

blazing condor
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OWS felt real nice in there

echo canyon
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ok will try whit eye and matrix

blazing condor
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since you never lose the 5 stacks

strong forum
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pwar generally doesnt need anything fancy, its pretty easy

blazing condor
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yeah MT is pretty safe for pwarrs. Damage output needed and damage intake mitigation needed is not an issue at all

hushed creek
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vid was made from early tires. Now I actually have good gear , just I panic too much in p2. Now its stable but last % happens on ani nr4 and this is too much. Maybe I should use second dps trinket πŸ™‚

blazing condor
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yeah he should be dead before 4th annihilate

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or rather i dont think you can live a 4th stack

strong forum
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you can

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sense and me both have gotten our kill after the 4th annihilate

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if you play around it i bet you can live a 5th

blazing condor
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yeah u right

hushed creek
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heirloom trinket should be nice here I guess as a second dps one. In p1 10% against deamons can make it smoother

strong forum
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so ive heard

hushed creek
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damn I'm old. I did it in legion ,but now I'm just too slow πŸ˜„

lime urchin
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this thing slaps too

strong forum
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i found it now way easier than in legion

hushed creek
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crit gems ?

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not str ?

strong forum
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str should be better but idk if you can slot in str gems in there since theyre cogwheel sockets

hushed creek
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I was wonder how many of you used those glove from pre legion that cast arcane blast to demons from time time . I had it on main (war)but they are gone. On alts I still have them so maybe it will boost dmg

sweet summit
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i didn't play back then so all i had was hoa and bfa cloak pepsihands

strong forum
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uuuh i had those but like every nomal person got rid of them

hushed creek
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yeah thats why I have them on alts :P. But they must be good

sick sentinel
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I know I kept everything worth it trinket wise from bfa that I managed to get

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But that wasn't much

blazing condor
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I had them but didnt use them

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😎

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Call me lactose intolerant the way i be avoiding the cheese

sick sentinel
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Turns out some ppl at blizzard weren't lactose intolerant lol

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God still hard to believe that particular story is still floating in the news on top of other shit they are bring accused of

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Just honest to God with coivd bullshot as well feels like peak Clownworld

blazing condor
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at least they're pursuing vegan options

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instead of regular dairy

sick sentinel
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how skyhold prot describes shield block up time

blazing condor
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helping my poor mom through korthia stuff and she's out here popping 500dps

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bless her

strong forum
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Parents playing video games is weird

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Or parents sharing your hobbies, also weird

sturdy sable
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I used to raid icc with my dad back in the day

strong forum
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Weird

sturdy sable
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Yeah he thought mana drain on the 2nd boss was the move since her shield dropped at 0% mana

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He played a Warlock

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So hed spam mana drain till the shield popped

strong forum
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Only if mana drain did more dps than he would do dps

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Which I doubt it did

sturdy sable
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Yeah he didnt get it

blazing condor
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my mom is a bigger gamer than i am at this point

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but she's never really played any online games

halcyon crest
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Hey all
Can anyone help with MT shit? I feel like I'm missing something or doing something wrong
I deal like 0 dmg

waxen cradle
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That's awesome, if she tries to tell you what to do you can threaten to kick her ass in PvP

strong forum
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That's a broad statement

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If you deal 0 dmg, that could mean several things

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You leave the pool too early

halcyon crest
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i try to stay til around 7 stacks

strong forum
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You don't press enough button, and thus lack rage gain
You don't press enough revenge, and use IP too much

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You don't press enough execute

halcyon crest
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nope mainly try to use fury on revenge

strong forum
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Yeah then you should do enough dmg

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If what you're saying is true

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So something doesn't add up

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How long does it take you to get to p2?

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Do you even get to p2?

halcyon crest
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nope xD

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I feel like I just suck ass

strong forum
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How many infernals do you get

halcyon crest
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I think Ive never gotten more then 3 before I die or get knocked off

strong forum
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You can kill Variss before the 3rd infernal spawns

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Which is the recommended amount of infernals, 2

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If you go in with more than 2 infernals into p2, you're making it alot harder on yourself

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It's not unbeatable by any means with more than 2, but it's alot easier

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So now that we know that

mighty valley
strong forum
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What do you think you're doing wrong wombat?

jagged pier
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the only thing kids are good for is farming herbs

halcyon crest
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prob to hectic and miss a lot of things or miss VR windows

strong forum
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And tailoring

rotund thicket
strong forum
mighty valley
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just gamer raging at my child for not fixing my mistakes

jagged pier
halcyon crest
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thats what I thought too, but I keep getting blown up by thing xD

strong forum
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But yeah, just get comfortable with what you're doing. Abuse VR, treat the adds ( all of them) as walking HP pots

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And kill variss as soon as you can with getting 5-8 stacks of the debuff at a time

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And instantly re-enter the pool if you can

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To dps him

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Also a note, IP is very strong when you have high stacks

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Use SR in p1 aswell alot, it helps a bit with mindrend to stay healthy

halcyon crest
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ok I guess I just have to keep trying

strong forum
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It's mainly a muscle memory fight

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Once you got the timings down, and your class play, it should be pretty easy

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A test of patience

mighty valley
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it's just drawing your attention to a lot of things, some of which are instafail

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but they're all individually easy to handle

halcyon crest
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ok...
I guess I'll just have to keep at it

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thanks all

chilly brook
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Look at it as a training session to improve as a player

lament zealot
blazing condor
sweet summit
normal zinc
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I have been summoned

sweet summit
blazing condor
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:goodstuffe: πŸ™‚

sweet summit
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πŸ™‚

blazing condor
#

:erga: πŸ™‚

blazing condor
#

mood

zealous kayak
#

anyone else got knocked back from smash at tank challenge when the smash cast get started and and isnt even close to finsih?

blazing condor
#

not really

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but infernals tend to cast the knockback way faster when they respawn

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can also be that you get hit by an eye at the same time as infernals are up

mighty valley
#

sometimes i think that's happened but it's just another infernal or an eye

zealous kayak
#

i used a orb p2 and infernal started the cast and got knocked before i even saw the brown shit on the ground...

blazing condor
#

πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

blazing condor
#

U guys have cocks?

strong forum
lime urchin
#

6 5% wipes on Kruul in a row

plush tendon
lime urchin
#

whats a tech

modern brook
#

Eyir cocks

gilded tendonBOT
plush tendon
sick sentinel
#

Versatility was a mistake, debate me

mighty valley
#

what's your opening statement

mighty valley
#

looks like i win the debate. another victory in the marketplace of ideas

blazing condor
#

Ez

lime urchin
blazing condor
#

Prove your skill by beating it with normal sl gear

lime urchin
#

Hah skill sadge

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Well 4% wipe with SL gear on

rotund thicket
#

press Execute harder Pepexecute

lime urchin
#

well thank you for that tip

#

because we did it bois

#

somehwere between 150-200 tries sadge

strong forum
#

grats!

lime urchin
#

\o/

#

now the hardest part of the challenge, what shield to transmog with the set..

strong forum
#

notorious gladiator shieldwall

lime urchin
#

hm, is that still obtainable?

strong forum
#

yes

blazing condor
#

Gj Roirin

lime urchin
#

I am going to regret redoing this on my dudu, arent I

jagged pier
#

probably]

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druid for me at least was by far the hardest

#

paladin bdk next but both pretty ez

#

then monk, vdh and prot warrior are just a joke

#

but i did druid before the nerfs

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so

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🀷

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it seems pretty free now

lime urchin
#

okido

blazing condor
#

Good thing i only play warr

#

😎

jagged pier
#

same

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😎

sick sentinel
#

hey lads, any updated stuff on prot talents/conduits in m+?

jagged pier
#

its still the same

sick sentinel
#

same as the current wowhead guide or do i find it in pinned?

plush tendon
#

thats the real shame of this TMOG... lack of good red and gold shields

#

feel like that would be a common color palate; guess not

blazing condor
#

Use a tabard

#

Match with that one

sick sentinel
#

Yeah I agree with color options and styles for wow shields

#

Not enough or something

blazing condor
#

Parry Dagger when blizz?

strong forum
#

Looks good to me

plush tendon
#

naw, the gold is off

#

and the red is off

plush tendon
strong forum
#

Gl getting that to match perfectly

#

Loleh

#

I'm using valajar tabard with it

blazing condor
#

I took the pandaria one

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The one from the lorekeepers or whatever

#

But i dont use that mog at all now

strong forum
#

Neither do I

#

I just slapped this stuff together for people as recommendation

#

Then logged off again

plush tendon
#

Wish I played legion and got the Dark PVP version of that set 😦

sick sentinel
#

use this shield

strong forum
#

Doesn't fit at all

sick sentinel
#

Gaming was better in the 90s and early 2000s unironically

plush tendon
plush tendon
sick sentinel
#

you're entitled to an opinion even if its wrong

plush tendon
strong forum
plush tendon
#

Current Mage Tower Set+Past Mage Tower Artifact Appearance+Spell Book is max clout

strong forum
#

Nah.

blazing condor
#

Gaming was always best when you were a kid because life hadnt started sucking back then

strong forum
#

Primal elite glad
Cruel elite glad
Set of undead slaying
Unholy ashbringer

blazing condor
strong forum
#

That is clout

plush tendon
blazing condor
#

He on x game mode

strong forum
#

Book is ugly so is the set

#

No clout

sick sentinel
plush tendon
#

AoE4 pretty good, even if the Chinese are BS

sick sentinel
#

the set is alright, doesnt really scream "warrior" but it looks okay

#

the mount is amazing cause of its uniqueness

blazing condor
#

Jump King πŸ™‚

plush tendon
#

yea, its a paladin set

sick sentinel
#

I quite honestly can't remember any good games to come out at all in last 3 years maybe doom eternal but that lived 18 months and is now dead

plush tendon
#

wearing it as tribute to all the fallen ret paladins

blazing condor
#

Also a more accurate comparison would be from 2010- considering you compare with literally 20 years

strong forum
#

Can't get more tribute to fallen paladins than that

plush tendon
#

good looking set; not gold enough

blazing condor
#

Chad play is to mix the set the with all different color combinations

#

T6 + legion + MT + pvp

sick sentinel
#

To be honest I feel like if blizzard ever died I'd just go back to Xbox and retro games

blazing condor
#

πŸ™‚

sick sentinel
#

Maybe new battlefields or call of duties

strong forum
#

also s3

#

so s3+t6+tomb+cruel+mT

#

its gonna be an abomination

sick sentinel
#

But I'd never go back to long term rugs

blazing condor
#

s3 was?

strong forum
#

vengeful

blazing condor
#

Ah yea

#

Well kinda baked into pvp <:^)

strong forum
#

gna stream it i guess

sick sentinel
#

I remember having argument with you guys about how to pull the emissary in under rot near the final boss

blazing condor
#

Plug that stream my guy

strong forum
blazing condor
#

Top logging pwarr behemoth goes fashioncrafting

#

Worst timeline

sick sentinel
#

I just remember he was way back in a little corner and so you had to go stand on a very specific location and not move from it or the surrounding pat would get you

plush tendon
#

Other then push my IO.... but I think my title dream is dead 😦

blazing condor
#

grow up

#

😦

strong forum
#

its so ugly

sick sentinel
#

If I got ksm ever I would be happy to quit wow now as like a break for some months or year

#

Basically only thing I want to do in wow at all

#

Get ksm, kill jailer that's my only list.

strong forum
#

you only get cov set from campaign right?

sick sentinel
#

uhh like far as i know your locked to whatever cov u r currently for mog

mellow bridge
#

nah not anymore

strong forum
#

ooooh i love it

#

i have to fucking be renown 80

#

to freely switch cov:)

#

so now im cucked

#

love it

plush tendon
#

go grind some renown

strong forum
#

right

sick sentinel
#

ad break for 2 viewer andy upon entering

strong forum
#

lemme do that πŸ™‚

#

real

#

quick

mellow bridge
#

you need 80 renown on any char

sick sentinel
#

kek

plush tendon
#

well you can get 40 for free

strong forum
#

no i cant

#

πŸ™‚

#

cuz i never hit 80

plush tendon
#

.....omg.... you real casual

strong forum
#

yes

sick sentinel
#

noo

strong forum
#

lmao

sick sentinel
#

wait

#

nome....

jagged pier
#

KEKW

sick sentinel
#

just go on ur 80 char

mellow bridge
#

pretty funny ngl

sick sentinel
#

im 10000% for serious

strong forum
#

yeah so funny πŸ™‚

#

now i need to wait 2 weeks

#

love it

plush tendon
#

bruv

strong forum
#

"free covenant swapping with 9.1.5"

#

oh wait nvm you have to be 80

#

πŸ™‚

#

love it

blazing condor
#

Gringe

#

Chad only ever played one cov on one character gang

strong forum
#

yes

blazing condor
#

Lies i actually have a brewmaster with 200ilvl

#

Sad

sick sentinel
#

do u not have phones?

#

i mean a character with 80 rk

strong forum
#

i was 76

#

before i quit

#

and i stopped doing renown quests with 58

sick sentinel
#

take u less than an afternoon to get to 80

strong forum
#

not if youre 1

sick sentinel
#

from that point

strong forum
#

love this game

sick sentinel
#

is worth it, once u get 80, u can go to ori and buy 500g things 2 of them that give all 200 ilvl conduits, and 40 RK

strong forum
#

YOU THINK I DONT KNOW THAT

mellow bridge
strong forum
#

the only part i didnt know was you need 80 for your "free swap"

sick sentinel
#

how are we supposed to bow to you as omnipotent god when you not even 80 RK yet lulw

#

i was just kinda already at 80 when 9.1.5 come out or was extremely close to it :S, yup, world quest peak content, imagine how much better this game could be with double the dungeon and raid pvp arena zone count on launches of expansions or patches, nobody at all is playing for fucking world quest and farming some base that goes away in 10.0 literal means nothing then

plush tendon
#

so get that bar filled today, then Wednesday mornin you can be Kyrian again

#

and just in time for Christmas!

sick sentinel
#

i wouldn't mind doing torghast and shadowlands base crap if it lasted or meant something in the future besides "i did this worthless thing! achievement"

plush tendon
#

WoW is a season based game inside each expansion; the good part is once you are 80 renown, you are done with renown till the end of the expac

#

or be like nom and not care

#

LEL

sick sentinel
#

i just never want to be felt like i'm being rushed to do something, especially if rewards just degrade to the point of vendor/disenchant fodder in the next patch / requiring further gold sinks to maintain

plush tendon
#

I'm all for them adding catch up mechs later; the thing is, if you want to do current content you kind of need to get those power increases early to get full value

sick sentinel
#

for example the scrapper was a god send in bfa, get basic mats back for shit you don't need

#

i got so many god damn ore out of that thing

plush tendon
#

not sure why they didnt continue that TBH

#

Scrapper was lit

#

except explusom

#

granted, I liked BFA and played the expansion all the way through

sick sentinel
#

it doesn't have to be as useful as that one spitting out so many reagents but i feel like there should be a scrapper in SW dwarven dist and in ORG, (TBD location) works for all players above lvl 5 and accepts most gear as scrap, gives back something useful, based on leather gives LW crap, plate gives ore, etc rework entire professions tree but keep 95% of it make all of LW one tree

plush tendon
#

I get why BFA gets so much hate, but once you got the gimmick for each tier, it was pretty fun

#

and, probably a hot take, but I preferred BFA dungeons to SL and Legion dungeons

sick sentinel
#

i pugged ksm in BFA without any voice comms or premades, i think thats achievement in itself

plush tendon
#

Me and the bois still waiting for Timewalking Freehold

sick sentinel
#

ludwig wipe πŸ™‚

plush tendon
#

Ludwig wasnt that bad of a boss

#

the 1st and 2nd boss were the tough ones

sick sentinel
#

this is 100% what happens cuz im pretty sure you get knocked down and have to wait for get back up animation which fucks you

plush tendon
#

Ludwig was a boss you pulled trash into and constantly during the fight

sick sentinel
#

he wasn't bad at all, but he could fuck you like that

plush tendon
#

Just cant get hit by shell πŸ™‚

#

The dangerous part of that fight was making sure you werent in the path of his charge back to his shark

sick sentinel
#

the ww, i just swim in that shit

#

SB + SW

plush tendon
#

I would, but tank job is to bait the shark away 😦

sick sentinel
#

whoever has the most current move speed is that job LOL

#

cuz thats a "don't get hit dummy run away"

plush tendon
#

well you dont really want a DPS to do it as you want as much uptime for them as possible

#

and movement speed wasnt important for that

#

as it was more of a stutter step

#

since it targets the closest person; went too fast, and it would just turn on ya bois

sick sentinel
#

on captians one of the guy summons a big ass tornadoe that follows him to his location dos a bunch of damage

plush tendon
#

Captains was only scary if it was Eudora Tyran

sick sentinel
#

funny thing is if you let it reach him, it just dissapears, so often best strat was to do nothing and set up a defensive for it

#

not really, you just intervened her when she was grapeshot and standbehind lol

#

u just literal sit him still when its coming, which is opposite what you'd think you should do

strong forum
#

do i get timewarped badges from weekly quest?

sick sentinel
#

like the looted item? or 5/5 reward?

strong forum
#

5/5

blazing condor
#

Ludwig wasnt even a boss

#

he was just trash

sick sentinel
#

far as i saw no badge for 5/5 bonus beside the doing the runs ones

blazing condor
#

Freehold was kinda ass in a sense that you chose which bosses to take and when

#

Still kinda cool tho

#

A lot of variation

lime urchin
#

Waycrest Manor! \o/

mellow bridge
#

huh

#

how is choosing your boss order kinda ass

sick sentinel
#

heres what i got on some toon i had

#

sob had like 8 font txt lol

blazing condor
#

Idk if i even like SL dungeons

#

I feel like theyre polished well but just boring to play

#

Compared to like TD in bfa not one of them is particularly buggy

strong forum
#

SL dungeons are ass

rose furnace
#

SL dungeons poopy

plush tendon
#

not a fan of SL dungeons

#

except for Theater tbh

rose furnace
#

I'm hoping Tazavesh spices it up

sweet summit
#

10.0 will have good dungeons

plush tendon
#

but Mechagone M+ was pretty good

rose furnace
#

I did it once when it came out

#

I can't wait for that mail boss on m+

#

"Throw me the package!"

plush tendon
#

I dont even know what the mail box mechs are

sweet summit
#

same

#

just zug

plush tendon
#

though the music boss is creative

rose furnace
#

You gotta toss the boxes into the mail shoot

#

But they have a limited range so you have to throw them to other people in your group

#

Aka healer mechanic

sweet summit
rose furnace
#

The dungeon is gonna be big mechanics check tho

#

Last two bosses are pretty yikes

sweet summit
#

never do last part okayge

#

only first part

#

sack drops from first part anyway

blazing condor
#

Ive never once done taz

rose furnace
#

Give sack

blazing condor
#

They call me Mr Int-my-logs

rose furnace
sick sentinel
#

yeah but u don't have an angry bullfango raging at your play video format lol

plush tendon
#

Wow, now I want to go back to BFA where I had BoM, VoP, and single talent choice that was SOOO good

sick sentinel
#

you mean like now with devestator and AM and indom?

sweet summit
#

miss bfa...

#

take me back...

sick sentinel
#

i want BFA back so i can do heroic war fronts for easier cool mogs

#

don't give a fuck about mage tower

plush tendon
#

Theres more options in todays talent build then BFAs, but BFAs talent build was just so good

sweet summit
#

i just wanna clap...

lime urchin
#

I like most dungeons from legion, bfa and sl but it’s such a shame the older ones become obsolete

lime urchin
plush tendon
#

clap clap clap

#

no HR or Reprisal needed for 100% SB uptime

lime urchin
#

Wouldn’t it be great to re-use all that old stuff in competitive environments!

sick sentinel
#

it sounds dumb and lame but i like wow and warcraft when its edgy and dark bloody and full of murder and skulls death rituals and shit

#

some poor human gets captured by X and torn alive find his remains for some quest

#

it just feels super saturday morning cartoon now than in old days

blazing condor
#

Um

rose furnace
#

8.3 prot warrior was untouchable

#

VoP procs for infinite avatar, twilight devastation was dropping dump trucks on trash packs

sick sentinel
#

for me 8.3 was "point towards enemy and pray to god for TDev"

#

then pray it hits as much shit as possible and crits

rose furnace
#

N'zoth tank trinket was so damn good

sick sentinel
#

no, link trinket and aoe trinket from EP

#

i would use them forever if they were in current

#

the link one when it was curent was insane for m+ because you just macro focus your healer or mouse over and then BOTH of you had like a 200k shield if u stay in range

sweet summit
#

link trinket? aoe trinket from ep?

sick sentinel
#

the aoe one would just proc fairly large aoe thing around u deal damage helped gather threat

sweet summit
#

the one from radience?

sick sentinel
#

2nd last boss and cant remember

sweet summit
sick sentinel
#

im not logged in

rose furnace
#

Vita charged titanshart + psychic shell were all I needed

sick sentinel
sweet summit
#

(that one was dogshit dandy)

sick sentinel
#

if u say so, i had it and i found it incredibly good

#

better than m+ options i had

blazing condor
#

Ider what i ran in EP

#

Urchin + rezan i think

sick sentinel
#

that phial of arcane went off all the god damn time and hit rapidly while it was up

#

it would hit like once a second or more which is why it was so useful for me ontop of that it hit all targets in circle

rose furnace
#

Yeah but the damage was poopoo

sick sentinel
#

you'd go in and itd hit 4 things 3 times by time you did 1-2 gcd

#

would provide aggro in pinch, i dunno it seemed to do good dps in my eyes

strong forum
#

arcane tempest was good in perfect ST situations

#

which was kinda sad, wouldve been omega if it stacked to 6 at all times

#

on all targets

sick sentinel
#

So every time this trinket's proc hits only one enemy, it will grant another stack of the proc buff. Each stack increases the speed at which the damage ticks happen (and therefore causes more overall damage to go out, since the duration remains fixed at 20 seconds). This effect can stack up to 6,** at which time the trinket is hitting several times per second.**

sweet summit
#

it was good if you played perfectly around the stacking part, but that was not realistic so it was just very mediocre at best

strong forum
#

^

sick sentinel
#

like i say i stand by it still i liked that trinket more than most i have tried

strong forum
#

if you got it to stack to 6 stacks it would be good

#

but it rarely did stack to 6

sick sentinel
#

it just goes off and does it's things and if you are lucky to get it stack it can be stonks

rose furnace
#

Vita charged titan shard = more haste = more TD procs = πŸ“ˆ

sick sentinel
#

does dmg 360 whats not to like

strong forum
#

vita shard was πŸ‘Œ

sick sentinel
#

i think i had that boss 4 str dps trinket

mellow bridge
#

fokin vita shard

sick sentinel
#

i didn't like it at all

mellow bridge
#

felt like 90% of m+ players wore it at some point

#

lmao

strong forum
sweet summit
#

cos they did

strong forum
#

:wicked:

sweet summit
#

:WICKED:

#

what is that even

strong forum
#

arcway

#

from back in legion

chilly brook
sweet summit
#

πŸ‘΄

#

ah

chilly brook
#

More haste=more block

mellow bridge
#

yea ik

strong forum
#

this trinket could do some nasty dmg

chilly brook
#

Also healers make me laugh

strong forum
#

vita was just nasty

#

240 base haste

#

+1.6k haste proc

#

ZOOOM

sweet summit
#

give more overstatted raid trinkets please ty

sick sentinel
#

it was so good

strong forum
#

font was also dumb

rose furnace
#

Psychic shell being a 1 min CD made healers a 4th dps slot with group CDs

sweet summit
#

HANDSUP

sick sentinel
#

used it all the way until SL

#

font of power was giga stonks

chilly brook
#

Bricked my 15 on my 219 DK yesterday, holy paladin was struggling to keep everyone else alive and then complains about how I'm undergeared and my health is yoyoing and how hard it is to heal

rose furnace
#

πŸͺ€

sick sentinel
#

channel for like 4 seconds and get giga buff longer u can channel it every 2 minutes.............. OKAY!!

chilly brook
#

Meanwhile he dies on a pack of like 10 mobs and I'm sitting at 10k HPS living for a minute and a half without a healer

strong forum
#

SHIT TANK

chilly brook
#

Must be undergeared

sick sentinel
#

NEVER TANK AGAIN

chilly brook
strong forum
#

bro i had the same in bfa when i played VDH, was a UR 20 and he told me "bro you dont have any vers youre gonna die"

chilly brook
#

Hit him with a "maybe track my runic power guy" and then he left

strong forum
#

then i proceed to solo an entire 9pack of mobs cuz the healer died to 1 charger mob

chilly brook
sick sentinel
#

wait, so he was confused that your hp bar was dipping and refilling when ur a dk

strong forum
#

the healer wouldnt have died if i had vers bro

sick sentinel
#

hes never heard of deathstrike?

strong forum
#

i swear

chilly brook
#

I'm assuming he was trying to panic heal me

sick sentinel
#

tell him hes a baboon

chilly brook
#

He kept hitting me with sac after I would death strike to full

sick sentinel
#

and needs to look up how game works

chilly brook
sick sentinel
#

this is literal design of DK to dip and refill

mellow bridge
#

VDH in S4 was so nice to play

#

except for your dmg lmao

chilly brook
#

VDH s4 was dreamy

#

So much fun

mellow bridge
#

I solo'd so many pulls in high keys when the group died

chilly brook
mellow bridge
#

lmao

sweet summit
#

love pressing shear okayge

mellow bridge
#

well

#

the shear part wasnt the fun thing

chilly brook
mellow bridge
#

but the 1 mil hps was yep

sweet summit
chilly brook
#

Only ran shear if it was actually dummy high keys

#

Personally anyways

mellow bridge
#

yea shear ftd was for push keys only

#

didnt bother with it in lower keys

chilly brook
#

Fracture+TD7

sweet summit
sick sentinel
#

so long as i live i will never ever forgive the shaman that lusted boss 3 TD 25% hp +15 for ksm

#

i raged at him alot but i can never forgive his mistake

mental scarab
#

9TD roulette game when all normal brain people stacked versdeswind

rose furnace
#

I remember once the verse stacking meta came around when the top dogs wrre were pushing their high 20s+ keys

#

I was like "you don't need all verse for +15 keys"

blazing condor
#

Welcome to 9.1.5

#

Its still like that

rose furnace
#

"If you're not copying what the dudes doing +26s are doing for this +4 you're not invited 😠 "

static silo
#

yo guys, whats the general opinion regarding tier set bonus for warrior tank in 9.2?

sweet summit
#

terrible execution of a great idea, many bugs. looking spicy okayge

rose furnace
#

Tier set bonus be damned, we get an on-use effect shield this tier

sweet summit
#

that shield looks very epic and poggers

sick sentinel
#

why do i need to bind extra button again

#

blarggh

rose furnace
#

Can always open your inventory and right click the shield

sweet summit
#

:notokayge:

rose furnace
#

With mmo mouse buttons I have everything bound

#

I put lust on my bars, I'm not afraid

lime urchin
#

Clicking abilities while keyboarding turning

#

Get on my level, plebs

rose furnace
autumn pendant
#

I promise

sweet summit
#

gg go next

blazing condor
#

:nop:

chilly brook
modern brook
#

ppl still think warrior is bad at handling magic damage

blazing condor
#

Ppl still think

modern brook
rose furnace
#

Ppl

sweet summit
#

p

agile pumice
rose furnace
#

I would leave

#

I don't pug anything above farming 2s for renown

#

M+ culture is toxic

agile pumice
#

pugging m+ on alliance is pure suffering

rose furnace
#

I'm be damned to log into r.io to link my alts to my main just so I can have some funny numbers appear next to my name when I apply to a dungeon group

blazing condor
#

Rio score doesnt mean shit

#

Everyone is bad

#

In every rio

#

The only good m+ players dont play anymore

mellow bridge