Tanking is just thicc milk
#protection
jagged pier
@gaunt dawn u bad not even tanking in MT bear skin
paper valve
Hey, Iโm gonna join our social heroic run on my prot warr that is 215 ilvl, is that too low to withstand most tank mechanics or will it be fine?
jagged pier
no its not too low (miss read so edited) KEKEW
teal swift
Hey, Iโm gonna join our social heroic run on my prot warr that is 215 ilvl, is t...
I did some mythic at like 218
Just use 2x defensive trinkets
That's what they are theredor
green cradle
hello i have a question what should i keep as hands , just got 246 in vault without dom shocket or should i keep on my 226 with dom shocket as a tank?
mellow bridge
how many dom sockets do you have
and are we talking about raid or m+?
In M+ you only really need 4 dom sockets so dropping one for higher ilvl is fine
In Raid you def want 5 sockets tho
forest meadow
After considering your response and reading all the whining on the "should we keep PI" post, I think I have a better answer. As tank and healer, I'm comparing my current performance against my previous performance; damage, CDs, recognized mistakes, deaths, SB uptime etc. But as a DPS, I'm comparing myself to 2 other people in addition to my previous performance, so I feel less stressed as tank or healer. I'm competitive, but competing with myself doesn't make me as high strung. I'm always trying to maximize damage in every role though, and enjoy recording myself to analyze my own mistakes for future improvement. Just hate being the bottom of the 3 DPS lol.
modern brook
there are weak auras in the pins
idk this version of mage tower is easy 4 me but i have severe psychosis and whenever i play wow i just sort of zone out like im not in my body and im just playing my character on auto pilot or something dodging mechanics and doing big dam its pretty crazy but thats just who i am
forest meadow
I like M+ way more than raid. I just heroic raid to hang out with the guild.
teal swift
After considering your response and reading all the whining on the "should we ke...
I like out dpsing dps xD
forest meadow
Lol
teal swift
Just makes me jammy ngl
blazing condor
maybe this is the week i actually get guardian trinket ๐
been meaning to test it
not even gotten it on hc since i havent played past months
teal swift
This was the nine last night. But yeah, im getting gapped by our dps now ๐ฆ
strong forum
Henlo who ping
teal swift
Lol
but yeah you make valid poin ts.
Fuck PI
fuck kindred spirits
fuck night fae paladin
fuck focus magic
Just remove them all
timber cloud
Real ones call for rally to boost demo damage - hidden tech
teal swift
modern brook
yall just hate them because warcraft logs has a hard time seperating them from ethical logs
timber cloud
Some of you are the only reason I put in effort lmao
modern brook
Fuck Int classes tbh
actually true though
timber cloud
I remember catching flak from Jake for having PI on my guardian parse so I went natty the next week and beat it
teal swift
Compete for the love of your peers
This is a race, and its basically michael fhelps vs some random person with water wings. Doesnt feel like a competition
Hows Nome been btw?
Ivemissed you homie
strong forum
Bro im hot all the time
modern brook
hard facts but i wouldnt know cause no stream ๐ฆ
modern brook
yo actually got an upgrade from vault
i did too which was weird cause i literally did 1 15 last week
blazing condor
same lol
modern brook
lmao
modern brook
mellow bridge
plush tendon
Gonna be starting some Mythic Sylv prog after the Holidays.... is it troll to play my Prot War over my Blood DK (equally geared) with a VDH off tank. Also, I'm raid leading sooooo my attention is like in 10 different places every pull XD
jagged pier
thats up to u
sick sentinel
doing freehold for a mog, and im getting sevre flash backs to ludwig unavoidable deaths due to pic related
brittle owl
wth is that drawing
forest meadow
Green shells are in Mario Kart my dude, wrong game.
sick sentinel
it was in the sense that if you got hit in that sitaution it was 99% that you were locked into that scenario and would die
it would throw you backwards and then come at you, knocking you back again and it comes at you again, unless you got an external you'd die
tardy sequoia
i recorded my Kruul fight
can someone explain me (besides the fact that I died getting knocked off the platform) how come I did so low damage?
I got 3 stacks of annihilation and he was 16% of health
sick sentinel
"unavoidable"
UNAVOIDABLE CHIN MOVE!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtBqSd_BVso
jagged pier
thats 20 revenges u missed out on
tardy sequoia
so more revenge is the answer?
jagged pier
thats the only way youll go damage
lofty widget
and execute under 20 %
tardy sequoia
i run booming voice
jagged pier
okay thats fine
sick sentinel
apparently sub rogue is best rogue im reading? blehhhh last time i played sub was 2005 vanilla to early tbc lol
i hate that shadow dance stealth thing switch the bars every 3 seconds
strong forum
Sub is really good right now ye
sick sentinel
i tried out bleed assassin necro rogue for a bit, it was okay for AOE, boss fight, outlaw appears to be in the shitter
tardy sequoia
If you can execute, you do nothing but execute
also i lose aggro in p2, adds attacking velen dunno why
strong forum
Yeah their habit changes, they are more aggressively going after him
Have to zip around a bit more often to get adds off of him
modern brook
outlaws literally fine
they're theoretically the highest st spec on rogue rn
blade flurry didnt get uncapped and people think that means the spec is dead
distant crystal
i wonder what sort of degenerate emojis from other servers caused them to be verboten here
modern brook
Iunno
sick sentinel
i'll have to try different talents and stuff but i wasn't too impressed with first attempt outlaw rogue, thought about trying warlock or something else (druid shaman)
modern brook
Fully geared outlaw is like 300~ above other specs in st
distant crystal
i don't know that it's the best rogue spec to choose in much content these days
i guess like, guardian?
sweet summit
sub ๐
modern brook
I think sub is the least gear dependent of the 3 just cause eit doesn't use frost set
sweet summit
true
distant crystal
any time there's downtime the other specs will gain ground or pull ahead
modern brook
Ehh that's some bfa shit tbh
Ass damage is loaded into its burst, bleeds don't do anything anymore
Both sub and outlaw rely on uptime to reduce cooldowns
Turns out melee specs like being in melee
forest meadow
Take that back
sick sentinel
i just don't like having to completely change bars and bindings cuz stealth
would have to have 2 sets of bindings for rogue like class (druid) and for classes that don't swap bar sets
cinder nova
Is there a way to disable variable druid bars?
Or better, just fucking make a gallery of macros that swap what an ability does based on my stance
distant crystal
Do you use any actionbar addons like
elvui/dominos/etc
What you're looking to turn off is stance paging
I think there's an option for the base UI too if you're using that
cinder nova
Elvui. I'm just tired of having to remember to update all my binds and trying to find ergonomic design between all the bars feels futile
Which is weird, because I used to revel in stance-dancing as Arms in WotLK
I must be getting old
distant crystal
that's what bar1 looks like for druid by default
if you just delete all that, it'll be static in all forms
(and it'll be whatever you had in caster form)
sick sentinel
I just remember trying to run bartender4 with stealth bars
and everything went to total shit
sick sentinel
i like it
distant crystal
ears clipping 3/10
sweet summit
๐น
modern brook
https://i.imgur.com/RlECETl.png
Stinky mog tbh
strong forum
no u
lime urchin
Ok 
strong forum
Uldir set is great
blazing condor
I SAID BOW
strong forum
strong forum
modern brook
chilly brook
@strong forum furry
blazing condor
<@192743144276623360> furry
MF Doom from the 1500s
chilly brook
modern brook
MF Doom from the 1500s
lmao
strong forum
Magic find doom?
strong forum
Male female doom?
modern brook
blazing condor
modern brook
metal face doom
mellow bridge
just did the destro lock challenge in 12 tries
that wasnt very hard lmao
2 challenges left for the mount
๐
blazing condor
wake up babe new muyuu pfp dropped
sweet summit
:WICKED:
strong forum
He looks like black sido
mellow bridge
wake up babe new muyuu pfp dropped
blazing condor
you look dashing, darling
mellow bridge
gonna do frost mage next
but i think i'm gonna struggle with the healing challenge
havent healed since bfa ๐
modern brook
He looks like black sido
sm
i literally said to myself
"nom is so german sometimes"
and then you hit me with this garbage
modern brook
smh black sido the disrespect ๐
strong forum
"nom is so german sometimes"
Idk if that's a good or bad thing
modern brook
Idk if that's a good or bad thing
neutral tbh
strong forum
sweet summit
same
blazing condor
๐คจ
strong forum
Me when
Bottom text
mellow bridge
https://tenor.com/view/iwantntrio-sobbing-uncontrollably-omori-gif-23408543
same
strong forum
Erga is hot
sweet summit
blazing condor
skyhold grooming pog
sweet summit
๐คจ
blazing condor
ur 12
sweet summit
okay
strong forum
Uhm achchuchjally she's an ancient dragon
blazing condor
sweet summit
strong forum
Yeah old dragons need rest
blazing condor
SF have their own private E-RP room in skyhold
strong forum
Factually correct
jagged pier
fuck how does he know
modern brook
jagged pier
didnt do the challenge in under 15 attempts not SF material anyways KEKW
jagged pier
jk jk
jagged pier
unless what?
blazing condor
i actually did it first try but then i spent the rest of my attempts tryna do it blindfolded
jagged pier
๐ค
blazing condor
took a bit too long cus i couldnt really strafe
did my first m+ today in 3 months
no interrupts and bad dps after queueing for 30 mins
blazing condor
i live in spain without the pa
sweet summit
๐
blazing condor
twisted fucking cycle path
sweet summit
my life is
modern brook
my life is spain without the s
EPANA
brittle owl
go on
sweet summit
_ _
blazing condor
im on a strict sea food diet
i see food - and if it's a fish i eat it
sick sentinel
good plan
blazing condor
im not a giraffe
blazing condor
hehe
chilly brook
@jagged pier I see u
chilly brook
i dont hide under a false name
Oh I changed it to make the trolling even better
Nothing to do with anonymity
blazing condor
we are legion
sick sentinel
we do not forgive, we do not forget, expect us
green cradle
how many dom sockets do you have
i have 3 dom sockets with those hands total
mellow bridge
then wear them
coral quartz
noob here, so apologies, but do you ever whirlwind at all? or is that a waste of rage?
sweet summit
you only use it if you for some reason choose to play merciless bonegrinder and have the buff active
(it works with ravager (it is mostly a meme build)
coral quartz
you only use it if you for some reason choose to play merciless bonegrinder and ...
Thank you @sweet summit !
sweet summit
sick sentinel
unbind it take it off action bar forget that it even exists
bad button on so many levels for us
on next attack, as opposed to instant, less AP multiplier, doesn't get a bunch of buffs
and i think it may alos be 180 degree arc not 360
brittle owl
<:okayge:917646812519739433>
sick sentinel
opening the vault in BFA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnTbO26u9bQ
tardy sequoia
what is a shield that's good for MT transmog?
sick sentinel
jagged pier
i already chose vault
strong forum
๐ฏ
sick sentinel
i turn off all my gifs, so whenever there is a gif that starts empt fram this is all i see
strong forum
Powerful
sweet summit
what is a shield that's good for MT transmog?
"protective barricade of the light"
fits well enough
strong forum
This man making me get out of bed...
brittle owl
purple kinda sus there
sweet summit
and you can't stop me
sick sentinel
the sword is wrong
tardy sequoia
purple kinda sus there
^
brittle owl
^
either the mythic uldir shields
OR
the gold face ulduar shield
i think it comes in gold/red too
strong forum
Or get a red shield, and pick a tabard that fits the shield, and match the weapon to shield
brittle owl
or that
strong forum
Then you can get away with offcolour stuff
sweet summit
no
brittle owl
mythic ulduar shields prob work best
strong forum
Small shields own
brittle owl
depends on race tbh
strong forum
The bigger the race the better I like small shields
brittle owl
why cus it looks like a dinner plate
brittle owl
door slam hoes
strong forum
Go play nightborne male, and equip Uldir shield
brittle owl
bulwark of azzinoth on tauren male
brittle owl
Go play nightborne male, and equip Uldir shield
that's like roleplaying as a door that has warrior offhand
strong forum
Nightborne male get OBNOXIOUSLY LARGE SHIELDS
sweet summit
yo?
sweet summit
ok i give up
brittle owl
kinda throws it off
strong forum
Cruel elite glad? Real shit
MT set? Dumb shit
brittle owl
cuntiest of cunts
sweet summit
ok back to green ๐ฅฌ
brittle owl
good shit
sweet summit
brittle owl
saladorc
brittle owl
broccorrior
strong forum
that is cursed
brittle owl
kill it
sweet summit
brittle owl
with gas
sweet summit
nuke
haughty sleet
Howโs Prot looking for 9.2 raid
brittle owl
EP shield
brittle owl
close in tint in that pic
might be lighting
ykno what would work really well with it
and i hate that it's the case because its fucking pepega
tardy sequoia
<@!165864577760755712>
how do you get this shield?
brittle owl
balance of power paladin artifact tint
sweet summit
radience of azshara mythic
strong forum
how do you get this shield?
bfa s3 pvp shield
sweet summit
wait really
tardy sequoia
elite?
strong forum
its not ea raid shield
sick sentinel
sick sentinel
this is the shield i'm suggesting but it's venthyr locked
strong forum
no Elite pvp weapon colours dont exist in bfa
tardy sequoia
and where do you buy it?? how much does it cost?
brittle owl
iirc
brittle owl
wowhead knows probs
strong forum
well thats the alliance version then
brittle owl
^
sweet summit
it would seem you are correct 
brittle owl
strong forum
wait when did they add a sparkly effect to the Tomb paladin shoulders
strong forum
that has to be new
chilly brook
No
brittle owl
nop
strong forum
i changed literally nohting about my graphic settings
chilly brook
i changed literally nohting about my graphic settings
Too bad you can't change your brain settings to catch up
sick sentinel
he activated avatar today
chilly brook
strong forum
know so much
me?
chilly brook
I only jest in love
sweet summit
u and milk man
chilly brook
Tmog is true endgame
sick sentinel
i'm just thinking if i want to boost a character or not or dunno yet
chilly brook
You can't make your lock not be retarded in raid
But you sure as hell can make yourself look baller
sick sentinel
warlock is complicated
sick sentinel
not always as simple as LOLDOTZNPETZ
chilly brook
Spoiler alert I play one
And both people who play warlock as a casual alt have done the lock mage tower and our lock main wouldn't have been able to do it without there being a legit exploit
sick sentinel
shame that the venthyr lock sucks, looked like it could have been fun
strong forum
And both people who play warlock as a casual alt have done the lock mage tower a...
i heard warlock challenges are really fucking easy tho
just like mage
chilly brook
i heard warlock challenges are really fucking easy tho
I'm smooth brain with destro but if I just spent a little more time I'd be able to do it
It's not hard
strong forum
destro was the worm right?
chilly brook
Demo idk cuz no play demo
sick sentinel
might be good in some demonology thing where you sumon fuck loads of pets and then blast enemies with reduced dmg/magic
chilly brook
destro was the worm right?
Yea
chilly brook
Affliction is what I play
chilly brook
The aff one isn't that difficult
strong forum
but can cheese now with curse of exhaustion
chilly brook
It's just all about getting a clean transition in p5
Aka killing karam while having agony rolling and no weirdness
plush tendon
The Destro one aint bad
grab the seed trinket first boss Emerald Nightmare
big help on the adds
raven hatch
Does anyone else have issues with taking threat from their Blood DK co-tank in raids? My blood DK basically leaves me AA'ing the bosses because I'll take from him if I do?
chilly brook
Haven't played with a DK in a while
sick sentinel
i just want to hold W and kill things reliably on my toons
plush tendon
Does anyone else have issues with taking threat from their Blood DK co-tank in r...
I play BDK.... if as a warrior you are pulling threat off more then maybe on pull (it happens) then he needs to look at his rotation
chilly brook
Only time I'd RIP from the last one I played with was if I was Venthyr and pumping at the start of a fight and or just pumping like crazy in execute
plush tendon
^
sick sentinel
i played with a DK and Hpal healer main, so i know EVERYTHING a paladin or dk does now
plush tendon
If you are consistently pulling threat off during the fight, he needs to look at his logs and up his damage. BDK is also unique in the way that high parsing DPS on a BDK usually translates to proper management of their defensive and optimal resource generation
chilly brook
If you are consistently pulling threat off during the fight, he needs to look at...
I wouldn't call that unique
Usually high parses for most tanks is just optimal resource gen
plush tendon
Yea, but death strike is both their biggest source of damage and mitigation
sick sentinel
i just don't know how you don't have aggro as a DK when you just run in put dots on people drop a giant circle dmg and literal pull target right to you, darth vader death grip too
plush tendon
i just don't know how you don't have aggro as a DK when you just run in put dots...
it happens. Their damage is meh and their burst damage is very low.
But in the middle of the fight it shouldnt happen if they playing properly
strong forum
DK getting aggro needs 2 miracles and a half
sick sentinel
because of grip they are just better tanks in dungeons with casters, i saw this all of BFA so i know for sure
strong forum
and those miracles are called misdirect and tricks
chilly brook
it happens. Their damage is meh and their burst damage is very low.
Its fine if you're necro tbh
You have decently good burst threat at the start
raven hatch
following my threat question with blood dk, even if I have dom sockets and blood link, but he doesn't so I do pump more than him
plush tendon
following my threat question with blood dk, even if I have dom sockets and blood...
that could be a problem
why doesnt he have his blood set?
does he have any set?
sick sentinel
i wish rogue and hunter would understand to put the mobs between me and healer when they vanish fd
raven hatch
hes only just started tanking again so missing his set
chilly brook
Blood set is a lot of damage and as a consequence threat
sick sentinel
so the mobs run towards me, even if through to healer, better chance that i hit it
chilly brook
Does he have unholy?
plush tendon
yea, then that sort of answers the question
raven hatch
he has nothing
chilly brook
Yikes
plush tendon
no blood set= sadge
raven hatch
so its probably not a player issue
raven hatch
xD
plush tendon
It could be both
chilly brook
I wouldn't rule it out
plush tendon
or a little of both
strong forum
i wouldnt rule it out either
chilly brook
Got some logs?
strong forum
r5 bloodset is "only" 900-1k dps
raven hatch
i'll see what its like when he gets the blood set and raise it with him if he doesn't start generating threat properly
chilly brook
I can tell you real quick
raven hatch
in between tank swaps I literally just AA and nearly take threat back
strong forum
so like 1/6th of what a DK should be doing
chilly brook
Nah figure it out now
plush tendon
at least he has a second taunt in Death Grip to get aggro back
raven hatch
2.8k
strong forum
yeah okay thats
chilly brook
Yeesh
raven hatch
242 ilvl
strong forum
very little
plush tendon
I was gonna say, doing 6k on a blood is pog
plush tendon
I looked at those
strong forum
chilly brook
I wouldn't call myself "good"
And I've landed within the top 100 of prot several times
Even top 10
sick sentinel
how far down the list do you have to go to see 2.8k dps i guess is another way of putting it
strong forum
grey parse
chilly brook
how far down the list do you have to go to see 2.8k dps i guess is another way o...
Very low
strong forum
maybe green
sick sentinel
to put this in full context for the guy in question
chilly brook
Like I said
plush tendon
These are mine; ignore fatescribe and soulrender (grips and running with add for the burn). That is sort of where you want to be as a 'good' bdk
chilly brook
I'm doing 2.8k dps in single target on my 218 blood dk with no sockets
plush tendon
you wont lose aggro, wont be on front page, but at least your cotank wont yell at you
strong forum
https://i.imgur.com/CdM4mtu.png those are mine with like 243 ilvl and blood set rank 3
and pwar and bdk do roughly the same dmg in raid
plush tendon
is that Mythic or Heroic?
sick sentinel
my dps lately is like 5k per mythic+ successes i think
i know 4.8 was a number saw like 2 times last week
so, its not good still,
nobody logs m+ texts i think
plush tendon
At least in this scenario, just need to have purple parses
thats all anyone asks of you
if you really cool, like Nom, you go for the orange ones
raven hatch
fair enough thanks for the help guys
plush tendon
Im just not that cool
strong forum
kinda 
i didnt get any 99s tho
but thats lack of ilvl
and lack of pulls as prot
i only got like 2 kills as prot
plush tendon
Yea, being held back by the lack of non weenie content
sick sentinel
completing a +15 in time even with 475 gear and TD was 99 parse for me
strong forum
me no get parse
plush tendon
yea, im not even that cool on my warrior
plush tendon
still a solid purple parser....thats all Ill ever be
sick sentinel
plush tendon
and I accept that
sick sentinel
me go face tunnel vision
strong forum
No 99s either
cuz 
sweet summit
No 99s either
nice hc logs bro
chilly brook
nice hc logs bro <:ratge:890357732543168594>
He linked his heroic logs tho
strong forum
wanna see my mythic logs?
chilly brook
You don't want to see mine
sweet summit
chilly brook
The prog kills really hurt
jagged pier
well that hc
plush tendon
No one likes a show off
sweet summit
:(
strong forum
yeah nobody look at Jakeys logs
chilly brook
<:ratge:890357732543168594>
Literally ugliest character
plush tendon
well that hc
we only care about high parsing heroic logs in this channel
jagged pier
yeah nobody look at Jakeys logs
i wouldnt look at them anymore ither
plush tendon
Mythic logs are for try hards
jagged pier
true
strong forum
okay jakey fell off
jagged pier
its elitist to do any raiding tbh
strong forum
ratio + L
chilly brook
I might push to try and be a lazy ranged boi next raid
plush tendon
Honestly, kind of toxic to even suggest logging in
chilly brook
jagged pier
and the fact i stopeed fucking caring
strong forum
he dropped an entire rank
jagged pier
i got 3rd thats enough
strong forum
not gonna make it
sweet summit
nice
strong forum
The real man's metric
plush tendon
we do have a rank 1 affliction lock healing log in my raid group
we pretty stoked about that
sweet summit
that's huge
sweet summit
holding
strong forum
sweet summit
uhh
plush tendon
look at these healing logs
sweet summit
what
plush tendon
absolute chad warlock
strong forum
strong forum
mellow bridge
look at these healing logs
looks like everyone took that guys healthstones
strong forum
He even missed his touch of death
Cuz he was mad that I didn't do a 20sec pull timer for his trinkets
So he only healed
Cuz
mellow bridge
for his trinkets?
sweet summit
so
mellow bridge
wat?
strong forum
That psyche trinket + badge
Or other way around, he had double on use anyhow
He had a few R1 logs early on cuz he was 10ilvl ahead of literally everybody cuz of pvp gear and INSANE dropluck
Like stupid dropluck
plush tendon
looks like everyone took that guys healthstones <:ratge:890357732543168594>
My dude realized the important things to raiding in a casual mythic guild: Dont die, be at raid, and do mechanics. Damage parses are meh, but he does everything else.
fringe marten
The opposite of that luck; is my luck with shoulders. Many kills on torturer guy, now we even got our CE..mythic dom shoulders don't exist for me. (even heroics..I use 233's)
Are you guys PSYCHED to be chasing ANOTHER gear set with Blizzards amazing RNG personal loot system next tier?? ehh?? AM I RIGHT? Such an exciting game~
sweet summit
tier sets are gonna feel great with personal loot !
modern brook
Is it bad that I saw this and I thought the joke was a r1 mw healing parse is only 1khps
modern brook
I was like dang thought mw was better than thay
fringe marten
I can't wait to not have my tier set for like 6 weeks of raiding~ woooo~ or be using normal pieces to complete the set, while progging half way through the mythic tier~
strong forum
Wellllll
The new tierset works differently
You turn a regular item into the set piece
And you can get the resources for it from every content
modern brook
Also our set is dog water
strong forum
So you can get a 278 vault item, and just turn it into a set piece
fringe marten
I don't think the tier set bonus is awful; it just might not be as strong as other classes..it's a nice bonus for 'us'.
strong forum
wasn't that a catch up mechanic
Not as far as I know
strong forum
I don't think the tier set bonus is awful; it just might not be as strong as oth...
We're praying for a rework
Cuz it's just bland
modern brook
It's hot trash
strong forum
And not strong enough by itself
modern brook
Cause half it doesn't do anything
fringe marten
Nom..does it HAVE to be a normal piece? IE is it even MORE exclusive than dom sockets to get your set?
modern brook
And the other half is actively bad
strong forum
Nom..does it HAVE to be a normal piece? IE is it even MORE exclusive than dom so...
By normal I mean ANY piece
You can get the tierset from m+, pvp and raid
Without restriction
fringe marten
'it's hot trash' is it better than..do .5% more damage to a mob..stacking 3x? wooo~~~ the excitement.
strong forum
You turn a regular item into the set piece
modern brook
Smh other people having an apple core doesn't turn our banana peel into a meal
fringe marten
Wait are you telling me they learned from the Dom socket fiasco? If only they listened to their players and didn't throw spaghetti at a wall to see if it sticks EVERY new expac.
strong forum
It's not a drop like Dom sockets or Dom socket pieces
fringe marten
Bullfango I'm not arguing it's lackluster..just saying it's 'something' more interesting than 2% more damage IMO.
modern brook
It'd literally avatar does a little more, shield slam does more once every minute or so
Outburst has the potential to be interesting yeah
But it's not
fringe marten
They're just scared of prot warrior... they saw what happened in BFA and cower behind their Bears~
modern brook
I mean we have reprisal we don't need a set
strong forum
And thats not alot of hype
modern brook
8^)
modern brook
They're just scared of prot warrior... they saw what happened in BFA and cower ...
Hard true
fringe marten
"Prot warrior is strong, we need to gut every aspect of why it's good right now.. and bears are ok right now, make them godlike..no NO..make druids in general INSANELY OP." "Ok boss"
strong forum
I don't think blissard knows
modern brook
I think
strong forum
Or planned for that
modern brook
That the power level of bear isn't innately problematic
Hit take alert btw
It's just that the requirement for hitting that level is like
You need a water bird to press 1 on your keyboard
fringe marten
"What if they were the most durable tank, tied for second highest dps tank..and make their ranged DPS spec SO POWERFUL it's almost required for mythic raid progression? Sounds fair to me~"
modern brook
U just barely have to login
strong forum
Welllll bears only do so much raid dps if they can do anything but tank
The less they have to tank the better
fringe marten
That's always been the issue with bear, very tanky for very little effort..and I'm FINE with that. The tradeoff is SUPPOSED to be lower damage; not MORE damage and also invincible every minute or so~
modern brook
Our bear tank gets like 96+on everything and to my knowledge he just cat vokes the openers lol
fringe marten
Yeah but the 'intended' way is to have swaps so during every swap they're going to convoke, or use their..vampire garbage? whatever that may be..or are pure tank druids still nightfae?
fringe marten
Hundy%..when my cotank was a bear every single fight was "can you tank first?" Now my cotank is a DH and he always wants to go first.
fringe marten
..it's more damage for everyone if we go zombiepeople..but we ain't doin' it.
fringe marten
Are most tank druids kyrian now though?
modern brook
Most are nf or ven
fringe marten
All that really matters right now is that they barely cut my pizza and I have these odd huge pieces...? meh..
mellow bridge
Are most tank druids kyrian now though?
depends what u look at
fringe marten
I figured..so they're still convoking. I know pure boomies are vampires now.
mellow bridge
a lot of the very high key pushers play kyrian
most casual/midcore players probably still NF
modern brook
Hysteria+ berserk is still really good for bear tbh
But kyrian is Def the look
For reasons statee
fringe marten
my focus tends to be Raid first, M+ second..and I only push M+ until me and no one else in guild is hunting anything from dungeons.
chilly brook
a lot of the very high key pushers play kyrian
Oh do they really now?
mellow bridge
yeah
especially on tyra they play kyrian with the cov leggo
but even on fort a lot of kyrian with ufr
chilly brook
strong forum
Guardian that is
fringe marten
Oh I forgot we can swap now can't we freely? If you swap covvies do you lose your mission table dudes?
chilly brook
Still looking like overwhelmingly NF
strong forum
Which is weird
mellow bridge
idk i find that pretty useless considering you can swap anytime and rio only shows what they logged out as last
according to rio im a fury player now
fringe marten
Oh swag..then I might finally toy with zombies for their shield xmog and to try banner..ONCE.
modern brook
according to rio im a fury player now <:ratge:890357732543168594>
Nice me too fury owns
mellow bridge
maybe it's a week by week thing too but last time I watched lemike play with jay he was kyrian
just as an example
mellow bridge
Rio stuff is too unreliable
fringe marten
Dude HOW do you mess up cutting a pizza this bad? Marcos did me dirty this time~
plush tendon
well Venthyr Bear is probably awesome in Wake
modern brook
Also its a nw
And ven bear enables the stupid item pulls they probably needed for thay
fringe marten
Well I'd imagine the highest key completed will be a NW for the entire xpac.
strong forum
He's playing with naowh
chilly brook
Looking like a per key thing
mellow bridge
possible
strong forum
Kyrian is just better
chilly brook
Some of his high keys is venth
strong forum
Tbh
chilly brook
Some are Kyrian
strong forum
Venth is good for ultra omega dumbfuck pulls
But for everything else kyrian is much much better
Cuz it's big dick dmg for your WW or Mage
But harder to play cuz you don't play UFR anymore
mellow bridge
I dont think mage ever gets the bind
chilly brook
Yea def a per key basis
mellow bridge
it's usually WW for AoE and rogue for bosses
chilly brook
MotS hes venth as well
strong forum
Mage gets bind sometimes too when WW doesn't have CDs
strong forum
Iirc
fringe marten
What is Kyrian doing for the damage of mage/windwalker?
chilly brook
His highest key was venth on MotS
fringe marten
rather..what is guardian kyrian talent?
strong forum
What is Kyrian doing for the damage of mage/windwalker?
16% more vers / haste
mellow bridge
What is Kyrian doing for the damage of mage/windwalker?
16% vers for WW every 40s with the leggo
and 8% passively
fringe marten
Oh the covenant leggo? hm
chilly brook
mellow bridge
I'm honestly always skeptical about r.io for dungeon information
it's very often flat out wrong
chilly brook
His tyrannical key on MotS was NF
strong forum
Maybe has logs
chilly brook
Pretty sure the dungeon completion information is not wrong?
mellow bridge
yea logs would clear it up
fringe marten
so is it for the whole team or for 'other' players only..or does the tank get the versa too?
mellow bridge
so is it for the whole team or for 'other' players only..or does the tank get th...
it's for himself and the bind
the stat both of them get depends on the binded person's covenant
fringe marten
oh you choose a target as well? hm.
chilly brook
I'm honestly always skeptical about r.io for dungeon information
Like I've never seen the dungeon information be wrong
mellow bridge
necrolord gives versa, kyrian mast, nf haste, venth crit
chilly brook
The overall thing sure because it's based on what you are at the moment
strong forum
so is it for the whole team or for 'other' players only..or does the tank get th...
Botj linked players
fringe marten
Yeah but 8% versa passive, 16 every 40s for how long? Is purty solid..a lot better than our Kyrian leggo (for tanking..for dps it's cool)
chilly brook
All the DoS keys I'm looking at from him are NF
fringe marten
that's 8% DR for 12 seconds in any 'big' pull..on top of being a BEAR already~
strong forum
You don't think about the DR
You only care for the dmg.
Anything else is copium from bad people
fringe marten
in any substantial key..the tank still needs to worry about the DR..well; unless maybe bear~ =\
strong forum
You don't go like "yeah I pop this now for defensive use"
mellow bridge
they do for bosses on tyra
strong forum
You pop this because monk tells you to because he's bursting
fringe marten
I get that..but I'm also trying to see it from the value of the tank.
strong forum
Is also good dmg for tank
fringe marten
But bears are so stupidly durable that..whatev~
chilly brook
Idk why we're even talking about a class that can't do the mage tower because too many mechanics
Smh
strong forum
fringe marten
Guardians had it easy IN legion.
mellow bridge
idk this version of mage tower is easy 4 me but i have severe psychosis and whenever i play wow i just sort of zone out like im not in my body and im just playing my character on auto pilot or something dodging mechanics and doing big dam its pretty crazy but thats just who i am
idk what all this bear tower crying is about tbh
you just owl p1 down with heart
get barely 2 infernals
strong forum
Mad cuz bad
mellow bridge
and then you cant die in p3 unless you get knocked off
strong forum
That's literally it
mellow bridge
or get like 5 annihilates
strong forum
Literally just mad cuz bad
mellow bridge
I dont play bear and I did it in like an hour
fringe marten
I remember it took me a good chunk of tries to get the tower in Legion.
mellow bridge
it's a yoke
strong forum
You're just a scumbag elitist
mellow bridge
the only tank one I found legit hard was BDK pre nerf cuz the adds would fuck you up
strong forum
Clearly
mellow bridge
but consumption fixed that problem
(for the first time in 2 expansions that button was useful)
fringe marten
All I know is..he just said "I played a Blood DK" and that's when I knew he had mental prollems~
fringe marten
I remember when WoW came out..there was a tank.
I still play that tank.
That's all I know about WoW.
mellow bridge
I played a warrior to lvl 30 on classic
and then I remembered why I didnt play on classic private servers
chilly brook
I just can't believe none of you guys are playing necrolord prot in high keys it's just the best option overall
fringe marten
Yeah but that's in classic, that means you knew WoW had newer tanks...
mellow bridge
next patch I will if I still play warrior
chilly brook
Next patch necro woyer actual sleeper
fringe marten
Next patch my MMO of choice will be Elden Ring.
jagged pier
Next patch necro woyer actual sleeper
well not if they dont fix the tier set
chilly brook
well not if they dont fix the tier set
I'm not even worried about it
mellow bridge
I usually play a diff tank every tier
jagged pier
ew
mellow bridge
but since I'm playing a lot of alts rn anyways
I might just get enough variety to go with warrior again lol
fringe marten
I did a 15 Darkheart last night..are those dungeons tuned up or was my dps bad..or am I bad? I know the dps was bad because I matched 2 out of the 3's overall dps..
But still it's a 15; that's like...Seismic reverb boots go BRRR key~
sick sentinel
You're just a scumbag elitist <:ratge:890357732543168594>
mellow bridge
the tank dmg is mostly a joke
but if you mess up a kick or a mechanic, your group gets oneshot
sick sentinel
purple score in that game is the equivilant of 2.6-3k io
fringe marten
WTF is this Yogi LOL.
There's a dude in our discord that used to be in guild that plays a ton of WoT.
I mean..? I get the parallel.. World of TANKS~ Ok ..I see you.
mellow bridge
I remember when that game came out
and then it turned out, you can literally buy better ammunition with real money
sick sentinel
it was for xbox but i played a ton of wot
mellow bridge
didnt bother trying it out then lmao
fringe marten
When I worked in retail management there was a regular customer who would buy hundreds of dollars of WoT cards monthly.
And he's NOT a whale in that game..not even close.
sick sentinel
yes, and no, its not quite that simple, on pc u have to have gold which is paid, and then u have silver, whichis wow gold, grindable for free
fringe marten
Whales in WoT spend a lot. Like..Black Desert Online a lot.
sick sentinel
on console u can spend silver as thought it would be gold for i think, 4000silver per gold? im not sure but like so yes and no about gold ammo
fringe marten
According to the guy in our discord all the money is apparently in buying the new spiffy 'event' tanks that are like..OP; so it's straight P2W.
sick sentinel
the game went down the shitter on console and its same as on phones now, so its no longer worth playing
mellow bridge
According to the guy in our discord all the money is apparently in buying the ne...
yeah
miss me with that shit
fringe marten
The two times I watched him play he would be doing ok, then get absolutely shit on..and he'd say "Oh that guy bought the new event tank it's a..panzer shrek Tiger Schmizer" or some crap.. "it's like 20 bucks right now"
sick sentinel
i dunno you can grind through each of the lines for new tanks, its fun but its slow and boring
fringe marten
Or you can pay the 20 bucks and win and feel better about why being a UI coder for the department of defense makes you SUCH A DIGITAL BADASS~
(says the moron who pays a company 15 bucks a month to play a game I constantly complain about...)
I could vote with my dollar and go play FFXIV or stop mmo's all together but then I might have to do "life" more, and I'm trying to avoid~
mellow bridge
I hope you dont want to play several classes
cuz FFXIV classes all feel the same
chilly brook
cuz FFXIV classes all feel the same
I strongly disagree with this statement
fringe marten
I played a bard up to level cap and did the entry level equivalent to like? heroic raiding in the previous expac for FFXIV.
I do too matt, they actually play really differently.
chilly brook
Monk plays nothing like dragoon
fringe marten
Now they are ALL available to the same character? But they play very different.
chilly brook
Gunbreaker is nothing like warrior
mellow bridge
Monk just lost most of their uniqueness from their heavy positionals
fringe marten
Nothing plays like monk in ffxiv..except..ANY pvp'er in WoW.
chilly brook
No they didn't
fringe marten
? did the monk position thing change with the new expansion?
fringe marten
What sucks is I played bard TO BE a support class; my buddy was a tank so I played a class with a tank external/etc. I was racing to get to level cap when the 'new' expac at the time hit; shadowbringers. And I made it like 2 days before shadowbringers hit..then That expac killed the tank external and all bard became was a ranged DPS class with a mana regen buff LOL.
Hit level cap, then a couple days later the new expac hits and the patch notes state they removed the tank external mitigation CD from bard..I was like "bruh..now I'm just a marksman hunter with mana regen"
sick sentinel
my extent with 14 was i downloaded it and played to lvl 14
got bored and uninstalled
chilly brook
Well ye
fringe marten
I cannot blame you, vanilla FFxiv is AWFUL.