protection

[mellow bridge]

it was tight for me too

had like 5-10s left at max

and I again barely killed an add before it wouldve been too deep in the puddle

[sick sentinel]

i feel like its really an 18 s cooldown reduction because you get that giga move speed for 3s

[modern brook]

bounding stride is good for the warrior on the move and for when a fight has 30s intervals that require movement that you cant replicate with charge or intervene

otherwise crackling thunder

the row really doesnt matter

[sick sentinel]

i just wonder if its better to have a larger clap, hit more things do a bit more dps

[mellow bridge]

well the question is

does you being quicker in keys actually do something

youre probably not gonna start a pack by yourself just because youre faster for example

[strong forum]

MY

LEGS

[mellow bridge]

on the other hand, CT helps a bit with aggro when collecting packs and helps a bit with slows

[modern brook]

candid photo of @strong forum

[mellow bridge]

but in the end, neither will do much

[sick sentinel]

i mean that sounds like something i'd do, leap to get a move speed so i could charge and pull earlier

[mellow bridge]

and then you die because your healer isnt as fast as you are

[strong forum]

Shit healer

[sick sentinel]

just pop SW block and IP

till they get there

[modern brook]

I tanked a 12 hoa on saturday

forgot demoralizing shout was a button until last boss 😬

[brittle owl]

bad

🗞️

[modern brook]

😎

no need

[brittle owl]

[modern brook]

i was pumping

[sick sentinel]

i'm trying new buttons for things, i dunno if it really works, unbound 7 and E (IP and SB) and put them f1 f2, then i put avatar num 1, last stand num 2 sw num 3, demo num 0

now, i don't have a good thing to put on E

[blazing condor]

How come you changing?

[sick sentinel]

like, i tried to move all of the abilities i have that deal damage, all of those bindings to the main bair, and shit that doesn't do damage to other bars, i could, and should, but don't use reflect for damage for example, so it goes on main bar now

[mossy ferry]

I can't recommend getting a 12 button mmo mouse and moving your rotation to it enough. My left hand was basically a claw all the time to reach the buttons I needed. Now I'm faster and more comfortable.

[jagged pier]

no

[sick sentinel]

its nitpicky but i have 12 and 2 button mouse already, and would prefer if some company made a 4 side button mice

as well as this abombination somewhere

never got it to work good with any game sadly

[mellow bridge]

the fk

LOL

[mellow bridge]

you are using numpad buttons?

that sounds horrible

[sick sentinel]

tried it for 2 dungeons, just trying things out

[mellow bridge]

well

[modern brook]

i mean

the point of a keybind is that you can access it quickly

[mellow bridge]

either youre moving your left hand away from the left side of your keyboard where all the other buttons are

as as well as your buttons to move

[modern brook]

wow ainta rhythm game, you shouldnt have to switch grips

[mellow bridge]

or you are using your right hand which means you lose more direct control of your character

the way he faces, moves etc

both are shit to be honest

losing control of your character as well as simply time to move your hands around

is just awful

[restive grove]

is Kruul meant to cast twisted reflection twice back to back?

[mellow bridge]

you probably CCd him somehow

CC makes him recast it again

[restive grove]

yea i intimidated his cast

[modern brook]

yeah my immediate reaction to that was you stormbolted it cause a kick was on cd

[restive grove]

thats just mean

[jagged pier]

but u SR reflectiom

[mellow bridge]

you have to kick or SR it

[modern brook]

^yeah thats whati meant sorry

[mellow bridge]

CC just makes him recast it

but be careful, if you got the nether horror adds up, they eat up your SR with their attacks

[modern brook]

didnt realize the SEMANTICS POLICE was gunan ream me out 😦

[brittle owl]

thats cuz u a weeb

weeb

[modern brook]

honestly its a price im willing to pay to simp

[waxen orbit]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/rfb97j/mage_tower_20_tanking_comparison_shows_you_need/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[jagged pier]

execpt i killed far faster as in kill time than in legion

[waxen orbit]

Uh huh

[jagged pier]

yes

in legion i took like 4 anhilates

i didnt even get 3 now

so imma press x to doubt that math

or at least its not taking somthing into account

[waxen orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/frankly-thats-a-skill-issue-hazzikostas-ion-ion-hazzikostas-skill-issue-gif-21595688

[strong forum]

What does that shit compare

Antorus gear?

[waxen orbit]

Nighthold gear

[jagged pier]

🤷 one of the first warriors in the world to do it yes skill issue

[waxen orbit]

Just read it kekw

I 3 shotted that shit in NH and I can acknowledge it was scaled differently this time around

[strong forum]

Also why the fuck

Does nerf take years to kill variss

?

[waxen orbit]

Because that’s the strat

[strong forum]

What strat

Lmao

The strat is kill variss before 3rd infernal

Boom done

[waxen orbit]

Pretty sure you can’t do that without TW gear

[jagged pier]

i literally did that without tw gear

and didnt even get 3rd annhilate

[strong forum]

Bro im checking my vod

Right now

[jagged pier]

so thats just wrong

[mellow bridge]

Nerf is just not doing a whole lot of dmg lmao

[jagged pier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR2a5WiOFW0&ab_channel=Jakeyplops

2 infernals in the gear i just wear

[strong forum]

I killed variss after 2min58 seconds

With my SL gear

[mellow bridge]

Sadly nerf doesnt show his dps in that video

[strong forum]

That's almost twice as fast as nerf did it

[mellow bridge]

but he is just doing it really slowly

[strong forum]

Nerf took over 5minutes to kill variss

[jagged pier]

nerf took 6 mins to kill variss?

what the fuck is he doing

[mellow bridge]

he took like 5:20

[strong forum]

That's as long as my kill

Of the entire challenge

And Jakey did it in less than 5min total

The entire thing

So this thread is garbage

[jagged pier]

4:35 for me

again

with no extra gear

just literally what i wear in SL

[mellow bridge]

the lengths people go through to excuse their bad play

is incredible

[jagged pier]

druid about 20 secs more as its all well tuned and scaled relative dont know my monk timing didnt record it as i 2 shot it and was juist trying it out to see what it was like

XD

[sick sentinel]

everybody is at all moments biased towards themselves

[jagged pier]

nah guys u need twice the damage because u dont hit variss ever thats why

[mellow bridge]

I had 2 infernals on my bear when I phased

and I dont even play that class

lmfao

[strong forum]

And taking nerf pov of all people

[sick sentinel]

thats why i say bounding is better and someone says no fuck you crackling

[mellow bridge]

had to learn bear while doing the challenge

[sick sentinel]

its just inevitable

[jagged pier]

same

[mellow bridge]

I'm legit confused about Nerf tho

why is he doing it that slowly

[strong forum]

Nerf isn't an amazing player.

That's why

[sick sentinel]

everyone has different opinions we just try to agree on as many things as possible to get by together

[brittle owl]

das good shit mang das good shit

[strong forum]

Nerf is good at playing dungeons, not at the tanks he's playing

That's why

But reddit doesn't know that

:)

[sick sentinel]

i won't link to my twitch, but its the copium man stream

[jagged pier]

idk this version of mage tower is easy 4 me but i have severe psychosis and whenever i play wow i just sort of zone out like im not in my body and im just playing my character on auto pilot or something dodging mechanics and doing big dam its pretty crazy but thats just who i am

[strong forum]

idk this version of mage tower is easy 4 me but i have severe psychosis and whenever i play wow i just sort of zone out like im not in my body and im just playing my character on auto pilot or something dodging mechanics and doing big dam its pretty crazy but thats just who i am

[brittle owl]

idk this version of mage tower is easy 4 me but i have severe psychosis and whenever i play wow i just sort of zone out like im not in my body and im just playing my character on auto pilot or something dodging mechanics and doing big dam its pretty crazy but thats just who i am

[waxen orbit]

idk this version of mage tower is easy 4 me but i have severe psychosis and whenever i play wow i just sort of zone out like im not in my body and im just playing my character on auto pilot or something dodging mechanics and doing big dam its pretty crazy but thats just who i am

[sweet summit]

idk this version of mage tower is easy 4 me but i have severe psychosis and whenever i play wow i just sort of zone out like im not in my body and im just playing my character on auto pilot or something dodging mechanics and doing big dam its pretty crazy but thats just who i am

[waxen orbit]

Ayo disclaimer btw @jagged pier I was just shitposting when I said the skill issue comment. Felt like referencing Ion for memes n shit; ain’t mean it genuinely

[strong forum]

I'm getting ready to farm down votes again

Here they come

Cuz reddit can't handle the truth

[waxen orbit]

Quick tell them they’re all trash and you fucked their moms

[jagged pier]

show respones

[waxen orbit]

Pull an Xbox on em

[jagged pier]

[strong forum]

No responses yet

[jagged pier]

what u say

they all bad?

[strong forum]

But I cba having this bullshit up without any actual comments against

I prolly won't get any but will see

[waxen orbit]

Redditors sorting by newest comment to enrage themselves

https://tenor.com/view/typing-petty-fast-cloudy-with-a-chance-of-meatballs-flint-lockwood-gif-4907824

[sick sentinel]

you are the downvoter or will be recieving them?

[modern brook]

lmao the lengths people will go to to protect their ego is insnae

if you cant down mage tower ur bad

[sick sentinel]

Neftank would need to be doing on average 1.3k dps to have the same time as Mage Tower 1.0 that’s DOUBLE what tanks currently can do.

um.... okay

whatever the fuck that means

[waxen orbit]

I wasn’t particularly siding with the OP; I was just posting it here because I thought it was an interesting breakdown

And thought provoking

[sick sentinel]

i don't intend to do ANY mage tower or legion m+ i can't handle current m+

[modern brook]

nah

No attacks at you thwump

But thats napkin math and copium

desperately trying to validate it by using known names

[sick sentinel]

we should have had like 2 months to try to complete this

[waxen orbit]

“Streamer no do it first try so that mean need nerf “

[sick sentinel]

cuz, now i just will never give a shit about trying if its only till tomorrow or next week or whatever

[modern brook]

honestly just scrolling through the comments looking for nom's post

[waxen orbit]

Kekw it’ll likely get mass downvoted because Reddit is where non-uniform takes go to die

[modern brook]

already sorting by contreversal

[sick sentinel]

i know its not, but i want to say this is him

[mellow bridge]

you have an entire month for it

[waxen orbit]

^

[mellow bridge]

altho now almost one week is over

so more like 3 weeks and 1/2 days depending on your server

[sick sentinel]

well, the timewalking was same zone and it was only for this week right?

[modern brook]

all im saying

[waxen orbit]

I agree with the sentiment that this content should be extended longer though. Purely because it’s enjoyable and we’re in a current content drought

[mellow bridge]

TW was for 2 weeks

[modern brook]

People were complaining about Complete %'s on thursday lmoa

[sick sentinel]

so, i probably got those 2 things confused

[mellow bridge]

and they extended magetower another 2 weeks

you can still do legion m+ in this ID and mage tower for another 3 IDs

[sick sentinel]

i'm still going to wait until minimum tuesday to see what bugs they clear on mage tower

[chilly brook]

If people are complaining about current mage tower lmfao

[modern brook]

"if"

[waxen orbit]

Legion M+? On alliance?

[chilly brook]

I've been doing it in SL gear

[modern brook]

the wow community is dog shit bro

[chilly brook]

It's fine

[sick sentinel]

i don't car about nerfs, just, unintended interaction crap lol

[modern brook]

its 90% complaining about wow

[waxen orbit]

This is the only real answer

[modern brook]

as if rolling changes are a thing only wow does

[chilly brook]

Keys on alliance

[modern brook]

alliance

[mellow bridge]

there are no negative bugs in our challenge as far as I can see

[sick sentinel]

at the start of bfa because we were all pepegas we wer alliance the dk and paladin

[modern brook]

prots well within the doable margin

[waxen orbit]

Im 77 io away from tormented hero and LFG is just a barren wasteland

[modern brook]

the only spec i played that i thought yeah ok this might need a tuning was feral

[waxen orbit]

Because I refuse to fork $25 to go horde

[modern brook]

and im comparing it to like LATE legion mt for feral

where i literally didnt know what 3 of my buttons were and first tried it

[mellow bridge]

the only spec that might have needed a bit of tuning from the ones I tried so far was BDK

which did get a small nerf

and should be 100% fine now

[chilly brook]

Well hopefully in a few months you won't need to

[modern brook]

they better not

[waxen orbit]

Blizzard? Doing something to benefit Alliance players??

[modern brook]

or at least give a free race change to everyone

[waxen orbit]

I’ve been alliance since I started in cata, I’m used to blizzard using my jaws as a metaphorical urinal

[modern brook]

i like that "doing something to benefit alliance players" includes "letting them play on horde"

[sick sentinel]

mass server and faction change

[inland raft]

I mean factions existing still is pretty silly

[waxen orbit]

Shit dude at this point with the 80-20 split on NA that’s the best thing they can do for alliance

[strong forum]

Honestly I should be able to shift into that new bear form as warri, I'm paying the same sub

[inland raft]

Doesnt even fit with the lore anymore

[strong forum]

[modern brook]

hard disagree

alliance exists to weed out 12 year olds

and its doing a great job

[waxen orbit]

:T

[sick sentinel]

take up to 15 toons and put them on any server or faction you like, if you swap faction race changes too, costs say 300$

[waxen orbit]

Imagine

Actually thinking one faction is better than the other on a real world equivalence

Literally could not be me

[modern brook]

bro every time im at the mage tower

its just 4 druids talking to one other

complaining that they cant beat it

becuase you actually have to play the spec

and not just lmao overtuned legendary go brr

fuck druids tbh

[inland raft]

Tbf bear tower was far far easier in legion

[waxen orbit]

“Why can’t I just slam my dick n balls into thrash and win? OVERTUNED”

[waxen orbit]

This is also true but still

[distant crystal]

i've done guardian fire and boomy so far

[modern brook]

didnt bear gimmick first phase with leggos in legion

[waxen orbit]

Mhmm*

[modern brook]

or did they address that

idr

[distant crystal]

i'm on pace to get the mount before christmas

[modern brook]

i have swole bear so i know i was able to do it

but that doesnt mean much

[modern brook]

who do you have left?

[inland raft]

I keep thinking of going for mount but then remember it means actuall playing the game instead of just talking about it

[waxen orbit]

Listen, I’m all for bitching about WoW. Blizz sucks McFuck. But people are bitching about the wrong thing when it comes to mage tower. Sure, there are definitely some fights which need tuning, but mfs be out here attempting MT 200+ times and trying the same strat every single time and then wondering why they don’t win

[modern brook]

semi related it was awfully bold of thme to release a NEW swole bear skin without first addressing any of the bugs associated with it lmao

[inland raft]

I did prot pal, ret, fury war, and prot war even though prot war was redundant for mount and then got bored of wow again

[distant crystal]

havoc dh, prob arcane mage or maybe demo lock

disc priest

and uhh, the healer one

[sick sentinel]

this was from day 1 or 2

[waxen orbit]

Did you have elixir of tongues?

[sick sentinel]

one of the druids no idea if he beat it or not, IMMEDIATELY said FUN when asked random crowd

no idea of his spec

[modern brook]

i meant the bosses lmao

[sick sentinel]

so, SOMEBODY is enjoying it

[waxen orbit]

Disc priest one is fucking hard

[distant crystal]

xylem sigryn tugar and thorn

[waxen orbit]

Because it was built around how much damage disc did back in legion and now disc does iffy damage without boon

[sick sentinel]

KEK

[modern brook]

pog good luck

[waxen orbit]

I won’t even cap bro Xylem felt rough

[distant crystal]

did like 20 pulls of Xylem

[waxen orbit]

However my arms shoes are dusty

[distant crystal]

it does feel rough but i'm playing havoc

feel like i need a speed set for that one

[modern brook]

xylem is a tight fight tbh

[sick sentinel]

the other thing about mage tower too is i just walk in and i see the location

[modern brook]

if u scrollup a bit me and @mellow bridge were talking about that fight

[sick sentinel]

and first thought i have is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNidS5s4UFs

[distant crystal]

prepot unbridled fury is kinda huge if you're ricch

[chilly brook]

They already stated they're looking at cross faction now

[mellow bridge]

@distant crystalhavoc is rough indeed

[distant crystal]

gets like 22 seconds of free unbridled fury on pull

[mellow bridge]

you need to perma drag him to the middle of the arena

or you wont be able to reach him in time half the time

[modern brook]

yeah its hard to laugh at the idea when ur looking at other things 😦

[distant crystal]

yeah not dragging him when i kicked seemed like my most common fuckup

[mellow bridge]

and you need to work well with kick and fel eruption

[distant crystal]

i've been using UC

[mellow bridge]

oh and chaos nova is a free full hp heal when you get stuck in the ice

[distant crystal]

for the juicy souls

[mellow bridge]

you can do the same without uc

i did it with uc too at the start but fel eruption felt more consistent to me idk

both work probably

[distant crystal]

oh wait, not UC

whatever the one that removes the cost of nova

[modern brook]

i did xylem on Sub and prepot felt useless

damage pre-shadow is really just "how long do you want to be here"

[mellow bridge]

oh yeah it's unleashed power

not unleashed chaos

w/e

i knew which one you meant

[modern brook]

but im hearing that p1 is way harder for havoc than it ws for sub so

[mellow bridge]

FE helped me stay alive more than UP did

[distant crystal]

you have like no time to make it to the invis duder

[mellow bridge]

yeah

that's why you need to drag him to the middle

[distant crystal]

just enough to FR FR and disengage

insta

[mellow bridge]

so you only have to move half the arena at most

[distant crystal]

ya

[mellow bridge]

that's what killed me in most of my P1 tries as well

[distant crystal]

are ya'll using the seedpod?

[mellow bridge]

and I hope you got books to change talents with if you make P2

[distant crystal]

ya master of the glaive for p2 right

[mellow bridge]

Seedpod is probably yuge if you have it ngl

[distant crystal]

i got a socket one on my dh 😄

[mellow bridge]

I swapped from demonic appetite to blind fury and FE to master of the glaive

[waxen orbit]

Btw

Windscar Whetstone and melee ring from CoS on my first try

Pog

[modern brook]

pog

[waxen orbit]

Broke 12.7k in an eye of azshara with that shit

[distant crystal]

i was running 2131111

for p1

(havoc)

[waxen orbit]

Okay I actually just rewatched my vod and I don't know why the fuck I said "that's a strat" because I straight up killed Variss in 2 minutes 32 seconds

What the fuck was I talmbout

[mellow bridge]

lmao

[brittle owl]

i think you got some second hand

[strong forum]

:)

[jagged pier]

KEKW

[strong forum]

See

Now imagine

Taking twice as long

[wet compass]

Until the advent of M+ the majority of edgy 12 year olds were playing horde since M+ got big the majority of good players in general have been forced horde

[blazing condor]

alliance exists for lore reasons only at this point

i would say it existed so that bad pvpers could complain about the other faction always winning but they changed that

[sick sentinel]

what if blizzard just ejected everyone out of the horde that joined horde after say start of legion cuz "horde op"

too bad, you were alliance, you have to stay alliance now

[waxen orbit]

Errrr

Nty

[sick sentinel]

its the world of WAR craft war is what the entire thing hinges on

[sweet summit]

wish i could play dwarf/nelf :/

[blazing condor]

im dwarf irl

no stoneskin tho

[strong forum]

Wish I could be Dorf again

I'm irl elf, so in games I want to be dwarf

[jagged pier]

same

[chilly brook]

One day

[strong forum]

Vulpera makes do

But Dorf is special

[chilly brook]

Hopefully cross faction in 9.2

If not it definitely needs to happen in 10.0

[strong forum]

9.2?

[blazing condor]

theyd probably hold onto it until 10.0

so they can actually have a selling point

[strong forum]

10.0 at the earliest

[blazing condor]

cross realm and cross faction shit

[chilly brook]

Eh they don't need to be holding onto anything

Big dumb

They need to do whatever they can to start rebuilding any semblance of trust

[blazing condor]

they will still always have casual players with subs

who aren't knowledgable on whats happening

and dont really care

but yeah they still need to save face from a lot of th eplayerbase

[strong forum]

But they will

9.2 is the perfect entry for cross faction

But its a better selling point to rope in new players for 10.0 instead

After the great World rebuilding

"chapter 2"

[blazing condor]

i wonder what the new xpac will even be about

what can you even do at this point

unless its "now we gotta rebuild azeroth and vanquish evil...together!<3"

[waxen orbit]

They don't care about trust

Blizzard's entire business model is short term gain >>>>>>> anything else

[mighty valley]

there is a point when lack of trust hits stock price

[waxen orbit]

Once again; Blizzard doesn't care

They're not exactly the most economically-adept company in the business

To sum it up in a picture

[sick sentinel]

at least blizzard is making accurate eyes

[waxen orbit]

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but you can't tell me when you look into Ion's cold, unblinking eyes you don't see a spiritless reptile peering back into your soul

[strong forum]

Idk in bottom right pick he kinda cute

[waxen orbit]

Kinda has Theodore from Alvin and the Chipmunks energy

[mighty valley]

"looks kinda tired" -> "man has no soul"

[jagged pier]

Bottom right kind looks like me

[blazing condor]

Bbw jakey

[jagged pier]

Theres just more of me to love

[inland raft]

10.0: bobby's yacht

we work together to design his new yacht

[jagged pier]

🙏

[sick sentinel]

are the wind sails also going to be stripper poles?

[modern brook]

softskin dwarf

[mighty valley]

dwarf that moisturizes

[somber stump]

how many of you guys are using cheat death trinkets on mythic sylv?

[waxen orbit]

🤷‍♂️ Couldn’t tell you chief, my guild is progging Painsmith

[inland raft]

Not worth

[somber stump]

im having a big fit with my RL, im telling him it's really not worth using it

[chilly brook]

Nope

Not using it

[waxen orbit]

There aren’t any notable spikes of damage for tanks there

[chilly brook]

Tell your healers to do some shit

[inland raft]

Between you anr cotank you can have a defensive every buster

[waxen orbit]

Sounds like your raid lead is just fussing for something to complain about

[strong forum]

on early prog people used it

but i dont think anybody has it used on prog outside of hof

[inland raft]

And with current gear really dont even need defensives most of the time

[sick sentinel]

he doesnt sound very bright if he says you need a cheat death trinket

[modern brook]

tbh use it unless yall are doing kill pulls

[somber stump]

better trinkets to use are aegis and scale/ows right?

[sick sentinel]

handy sure, but by no means required or even goo

[chilly brook]

You're better off using aegis and scale or aegis and defense matrix if you need defensives

[inland raft]

Heals need something to do

[strong forum]

aegis is godtier on sylv

like stupidly good

[chilly brook]

Aegis is nuts

[waxen orbit]

Definitely run aegis

[chilly brook]

Like 300k absorb by end of p1 nuts

[inland raft]

And ya aegis is huge

[modern brook]

🤷

[somber stump]

what part are you using aegis on? i was thinking p2 mostly

[waxen orbit]

Realistically speaking you could honestly get away with Aegis and Phial/sack

[modern brook]

if your prog is being halted causeyour healers cant keep you alive through an aegis

use the cheat death trinket

[chilly brook]

Reactive Defense Matrix is good too

[strong forum]

any tankbuster

[modern brook]

imo

eventually your healers will figure it out and you can swap

[chilly brook]

First heartseeker, and then the double heartseeker I take at end of p1

[inland raft]

Really good for the channel workout brain making me choke on name right now

But any buster

[strong forum]

tank buster is 6 hits

so aegis will literally remove 50k dmg there

[chilly brook]

If you use it at before she does phase 1.5 it's up for first platform of p2

[strong forum]

3 arrows + dot ticking

[inland raft]

Scale breaks in like 2 hits aegis mitigates every hit

[chilly brook]

And then if you use it there it's up for second platform of p2

[waxen orbit]

If you’re running anger management, you can basically have shield wall up for (at the very least) every other heartseeker

Use aegis to fill the gap

[sick sentinel]

nom i know we went over this before at some point, is it still good to use lightless enchant for like m+ or is celestial just better because it makes your abilities hit for more

[inland raft]

Doesnt matter

Run whatever most use celestial

[somber stump]

alright, thanks for the input guys

[waxen orbit]

Lightless is great if it procs on a pull of 5+ targets

But all around, celestial is just more reliable

[chilly brook]

Tldr cheat death trinket is kinda weirdchamp

[sick sentinel]

someone yesterday was saying celestial way better and i'm inting hard by using lightless

[inland raft]

Next to no difference

[mellow bridge]

I dont think cheat death is that bad for early prog

[inland raft]

Variance in procs is bigger

[mellow bridge]

healers have a lot of shit to heal and might be struggling to keep you alive

or your own gameplay might do that

[chilly brook]

I mean

[modern brook]

[mellow bridge]

wiping in p3 and wasting 10 mins because of a random death to a combo sucks

[chilly brook]

Aegis gives you much more wiggle room

[mellow bridge]

yes

I'd just run both for early prog

and then swap from cheat death once you get comfortable and no more random deaths

[chilly brook]

Or you run aegis and RDM

Or scale

[sick sentinel]

is 5% str just pretty much like 5% versa while its up?

[inland raft]

If so worried about survival over damage id just run double on use even before a cheat and use scale too

[chilly brook]

Because if you proc cheat death you're probably gonna die anyways

[mellow bridge]

almost any tank that will prog sylv now will have those random deaths wasting a lot of time tbh

[inland raft]

But thats just me

Better to run aegis and dps though

[strong forum]

its better

[chilly brook]

The random deaths I've had wouldn't stop a wipe if I had cheat

[sick sentinel]

i know it would be better for granting attack power and block stuff

[chilly brook]

Literally 150k absorb>cheat

[waxen orbit]

^

Heart wouldn’t save you against mythic Sylv

You’d revive from it and immediately get one tapped by the next heartseeker round

[chilly brook]

And the fatescribe trinket doesnt remove the debuffs

So if you die off platform while soaking up shit in p3 and you use that you're probably gonna die trying to get back to your healers anyways

[inland raft]

If your dying on sylv either heals arent doing job or you/cotank arent just check whats killing you “random” deaths don’t really happen on her

Very choreographed fight

[waxen orbit]

It’s never the heals’ fault /s

[chilly brook]

Sadly true

[waxen orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/sxcd-faces-serious-gif-13728604

Oogabooga tank bad

[strong forum]

always the healers fault

wdym?

[chilly brook]

From a raid perspective nah

[waxen orbit]

Tank blame is pretty rampant kekw

[strong forum]

yes

from a raid perspective yes

[ocean yoke]

you can never go wrong blaming a hunter either

[inland raft]

No cd soak every puddle die its heals fault change my mind

[chilly brook]

Everyone's always like "well can't you just do this to be more tanky?" Or "why aren't you running a second tank trinket?"

[strong forum]

not if youre the RL

[waxen orbit]

FUCKING FELT THIS

“Why are you running Phial and Sack?” Because I have no issue with defensive, quit scratching your nuts and heal me 7head

[inland raft]

Those balls won’t scratch themselves

[strong forum]

before i look at my or anyones gear

[chilly brook]

I love prot when I have a great healing core

[strong forum]

i look at CD allocation

period

[chilly brook]

I hate it when I dont

[strong forum]

.

and 99/100

you can use CDs better

[inland raft]

Just play pally

[chilly brook]

And the funny thing is the times when I've had a great healing core they're like "yea we barely heal you"

[strong forum]

we literally got a way smoother Sludgefist and Council mythic

after i revamped all healer CDs

100 pulls in

all of them

[inland raft]

Because if you use cds amd have a solid heal core and not just one or two trying to carry rest,passive heals will likely keep you up

[waxen orbit]

I once got told by a raid lead to rage dump into ignore pain in raid

[strong forum]

find out where you struggle

and then use CDs so you dont struggle at that moment anymore

shift CDs around, do you need HPS or just mitigation

who is taking the dmg there, who needs the most babysitting

[chilly brook]

Sylvanas is the only fight I actually press IP on religiously

[waxen orbit]

“We need you to play as defensive as possible because if our healers have to choose between using a heal on you or on a DPS, we could lose a DPS and then we’d lose more overall group damage”

[inland raft]

Cant hear you over sound of revenj

[waxen orbit]

Or, and hear me out, DPS can use defensives and not get hit by avoidable mechs and we can all play in a damage oriented manner

[waxen orbit]

Not even joking that’s deadass one of the only fights in this whole tier which actually hurts

[inland raft]

If im dpsing im not moving out of my dreamweaver circle for somethint as silly as mechanics

[waxen orbit]

Reject mechanics, return to monke

[chilly brook]

The best part is when the same dps who they need to heal, didn't even use healthstones or pots

[inland raft]

Thats what sr+dbts is for on opener

[brittle owl]

gotta adapt to your raid friends monkeys

[waxen orbit]

Y e p .

[ocean yoke]

if i can press execute im not doing mechanics

[chilly brook]

And you've used all yours and the phial

[brittle owl]

nobody likes the dude that calls out people not using pots and hs

[inland raft]

Often have an ip up on opener as well as arms

[sick sentinel]

phial still 216

[waxen orbit]

Why? Because he has a point?

[inland raft]

So not moving for first swirleys ever

[sick sentinel]

have to put points into blade kit first

[chilly brook]

I mean in general no one likes being told they can do better

[waxen orbit]

That’s the only way to improve kekw

[chilly brook]

That's why so many people are reeing over mage tower

[waxen orbit]

Touché

[brittle owl]

well

you've already one guy doing that in raid

[chilly brook]

The amount of mythic raiders I've seen complain about the fact that it's too hard and too many things to keep track of

[brittle owl]

generally tends to be better and more orderly for the rl to callout people

[sick sentinel]

some people absolutely want to be told what they did wrong

[inland raft]

Ideally your raid is fill of people who as soon as they die recognize for themselves what they did wrong

[waxen orbit]

That’s reasonable

[inland raft]

But getting 20 of those is a monumental task

[waxen orbit]

Factual

[inland raft]

Even limit and method have “those people”

[brittle owl]

i mean, you don't hve to be reductive

anyone can make mistakes

[waxen orbit]

Some people want to raid just to hang out, which is fine, but that’s what you do weekly heroic parse/meme runs or guild RBG nights for

[chilly brook]

Usually I am that person

[brittle owl]

even if you yourself think that you recognize your own mistakes

you can sometimes tunnel vision in your own role and ignore other aspects

[waxen orbit]

No sure anybody can make mistakes, but details and the health potion tab exists for a reason

[inland raft]

Ofc everyone makes mistakes ive charged my arrow before by accident

[waxen orbit]

It’s there for retrospect so that people can actually use their defensive on the next pull

And if they don’t, they’re lowkey just inting if it results in a wipe

[chilly brook]

I mean tanking is very simple

Set everyone else up for success

Dont die

If you're not dying do more damage

[waxen orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/sacred-text-star-wars-luke-yoda-gif-16551138

[chilly brook]

His head so big

[inland raft]

His head was subverting expectations

[waxen orbit]

He playing dwarf IRL

Forehead built like a runway

[errant oriole]

Hey guys was just curious but the wall is 2nd best for both mplus and raids correct?

[sick sentinel]

so, you guys figure if i can learn to point boss away from group, and use my dmg increase abilities before using dmg cd, that i'll do like 5 times better

[waxen orbit]

Either run reprisal or Elysian might

Wall is yucky

[inland raft]

Or Seismic in m+ if not running reprisal

[sick sentinel]

it seems to be those are the 2 major issues more than anything

[inland raft]

Revenj goes brrr

[waxen orbit]

This but on fortified weeks

[tardy sequoia]

@jagged pier did you use a particulare gear during Mage tower?

[waxen orbit]

Elysian Might on tyran

Ez 8.8k boss DPS average

[errant oriole]

So run reprisal for both content then?

[inland raft]

Yes

[jagged pier]

i used nothing

[waxen orbit]

For max defensive sure

[inland raft]

Other leggos are chosen for damage

[errant oriole]

Oh

[tardy sequoia]

got it

[errant oriole]

Ok thanks guys

[jagged pier]

literally what i had on at the time

[inland raft]

Reprisal is decent damage and godlike defense

[jagged pier]

swapped phial for gland that was it

[errant oriole]

Any best talents for reprisal?

[waxen orbit]

Always double time

And BSC is pretty nice, unless you’re in raid

[inland raft]

Other options are good damage at cost of defense, and stuff like wall is almost never used unless you have a niche situation where you always dying and running it gets you another wall

[waxen orbit]

I am of the belief that for every boss in SoD you can just run EM

[errant oriole]

Also what do yall think of the set bonuses?

[waxen orbit]

Save a shield block for a tank buster with demo shout on tank busters here and there, use your toolkit, do big damage

[inland raft]

Well some groups dont have enough cds for say guardian and wall can be useful there but ya it’s generally best ignored

[waxen orbit]

Compared to every other tank? Raw sewage, but not surprising considering Blizz uses our spec as a urinal in comparison to other tanks

It’s decent

[errant oriole]

True lol

I like the avatar 4 set :)

Bonus

[waxen orbit]

4 set is the only thing I like

[inland raft]

Most tanks looking solid next tier

[waxen orbit]

The outburst mech looks dumb. Empowering shield slam is dandy but who tf is pressing thunderclap for damage unless as a filler ability (edit) or in M+

[inland raft]

Though vdh is exceptionally standout if goes live as is they gonna be pumping huge numbers

[ocean yoke]

have they fixed the thing where using IP that would give the outburst would eat it without even enhancing it?

[errant oriole]

Ah so prot may be considered weakest again?

[inland raft]

Doubt it

[waxen orbit]

As always

[mellow bridge]

there's no way VDH is gonna go live as it stands

[lofty widget]

was prot ever considered the weakest?

[inland raft]

Prot will be least played prob but thats always the case unless its runaway op like bfa

[mellow bridge]

altho tbh the vdh set should get reworked

[inland raft]

But wouldnt say its weak

[sick sentinel]

pro tip, whenever you edit a message like i am doing right now, it will say in tiny hard to read text (edited)

[modern brook]

Probably the weakest unless it's the strongest

People suck at this class

[lofty widget]

if weakest means we're getting buffed then im all for it

[inland raft]

Prot is the class people act like doesnt exist until its broken op

Then they were always such big fans

[errant oriole]

Think thats the issue is cause people suck at it?

Lol

[inland raft]

Its very high skill cap tank that tells you in the form of death if you fuck up

And doesnt have a lot of flashy techs like say pal or dh

[errant oriole]

Ah

[inland raft]

Other tanks are quite reactive like protpal while prot is very proactive

[errant oriole]

Since dom sockets are going away in 9.2 would boots for reprisal be ok?

[sick sentinel]

warrior is point shiled at enemy and fight try to ignore as much bad crap as you can, pray you live

[waxen orbit]

Legs for max stats

[sick sentinel]

if you don't point shield at enemy, you are fuckd

[errant oriole]

Ah k

[inland raft]

You shouldnt be praying you live, your survival is as much in your hands as any other tank

Its just you need to know before damage comes out

While other tanks twnd to react to damage more so then prot

[sick sentinel]

well part of the problem with prot warrior is if you do it well enough nobody will even notice you are doing it right

besides big dps

its just like okay, this is how its supposed to work

[waxen orbit]

Your healers will

[inland raft]

Your healers will 100% let you know

A well played prot is a healers dream

A badly played one is a nightmare

[waxen orbit]

A good prot warrior will have a healer salivating

[inland raft]

No tank is as predictable as a well played prot

Makes healers comfortable

[sick sentinel]

like, im positive there is tons of bosses in m+ some of which i don't know how certain attacks work

final boss of PF there is an acid rain cloud, no idea other than that its some magic aoe dmg i have to deal with

[waxen orbit]

The only boss in M+ which should have you clenching as a prot warrior is third boss of Spires (Oryphirion)

No other boss in M+ is really a threat

[sick sentinel]

i haven't played dps main so i don't understand the dps struggle

[inland raft]

Eh third boss spires is simple af on prot

[ionic fern]

Why would that have you sweating? o.o

[inland raft]

Its literally melees

[waxen orbit]

The soak phase being entirely magic damage

Lmfao

[ionic fern]

🤷

[sick sentinel]

hang on

[waxen orbit]

Do that on a tyran 24 and tell me your ass isn’t puckered

[ionic fern]

If i did a 24 Tyran i would take soakers. 🙂

🤷

[inland raft]

Ya

I aint soaking

Im over there pressing revenj

[waxen orbit]

Reasonably so, but pugs don’t listen

🤷‍♂️

[ionic fern]

On higher keys they tend to listen more than on lower keys.

So i'll take my chances.

[waxen orbit]

They don’t listen up to a 24 chief idk

[inland raft]

Higher keys they usually dont even nees to be told unless theres two soakers

[ionic fern]

Okay chief

Idk

[inland raft]

Then you just say who doing it

They know you arent doing it as tank

Doesnt even interfere with their dps everyone mobes to side and they just soak standing between boss and bubbles

Assuming stacked them right

[sick sentinel]

last night,

i bet you can figure out what happened there

[waxen orbit]

What the fuck is that orb placement

[inland raft]

Second boss is harder if you are intervening and getting lucky and taking the dot

I intervene every dark steike and hope get the dot

[ocean yoke]

oh god

that picture

[sick sentinel]

i never have any trouble at all with the 2nd boss

he is turbo easy

[inland raft]

Its easy just saying harder then third but its relative ofc both easy

[blazing condor]

2nd boss WAS annoying asf

before the super-nerf

now its baby

on tyrannical it would always just wipe some tard ranged

cus you'd have 10 orbs up

[waxen orbit]

2nd boss is tank it on one end and stack two orbs top of each other, leap to other side and face him inward so DPS can hit him from the back when he goes into recharge phase and dodge all the bolts going out in front of their camera

Ez money

[blazing condor]

now you dont even have to stack orbs

[inland raft]

But ya you can intervene a random ranged each dark strike and if get lucky you fet the dot which makes heals life far easier

[blazing condor]

considering they disappear

[waxen orbit]

No, but it’s nice to stack them because the bolts will overlap and shoot in the same direction

And then ranged only have to move once as opposed to twice for casts

[inland raft]

Especially if your heals is a pally not having to triage someone else makes fight a breaze

[waxen orbit]

Helps for maximizing the raw number of spells they can get off

[blazing condor]

yeah i mean you still do stack them

but you dont need to

[waxen orbit]

True

[blazing condor]

before if you had a bad tank it was kinda gg

[inland raft]

Just make sure to tank her in a way that stack them while melee fan stand behind her

A lot of tanks only think about positioning her without thinkng about melee

[waxen orbit]

Season 1: what’s a melee

[waxen orbit]

Oh good lord what is that

[sick sentinel]

start at one, follow

never fails

[waxen orbit]

That’s over complicating it

Go top

Then bottom

Then top

Then bottom

Rinse repeat

[inland raft]

Overcomplicating it

[sick sentinel]

not really, just dump 2 in same location and run for 3rd so group doesn't get hit by the crap p2

[inland raft]

I literally just start at a side move to middle and back repeat

First season it was about maximizing

But now just move back and forth

[sick sentinel]

well, i put them close to pillars, that way the crap isn't going 360 degrees

and then you just side step blue frontal

[inland raft]

Pillars dont matter, dps arent standing there anyways

[waxen orbit]

It’s too dangerous to tank it on pillar with melee lowkey

Too enclosed of a space

[inland raft]

Basically when she dark strides second time just charge her and then face her away from group

Gg ez done

[waxen orbit]

^

[inland raft]

Bonus pounts if you intervene a range and she chooses them and you just plant

You take dot and everyone just pumps

[sick sentinel]

well the pattern on that boss is 2 black blots, and then the flower attack from wherever i placed those and they spread out as i move her farther from the locationspawned

[waxen orbit]

I respect the method but there’s just simpler ways of going about it to accommodate mdps

[inland raft]

Doesnt matter they are a atraight line doesnt matter if your a mile away or right next to them if they gonna hit you you move either way, so just enough space to have reaction time is all you need

More you move her more people have to adjust

If ranged are in good spot she will be plenty far away and they just adjust once per phase

[lime urchin]

I am so close with Kruul

and I am so trying to keep it cool when I get booped off

[waxen orbit]

Oof

Shockwave/fear shout when the demon knock backs finna go off

If you can’t dodge it*

[inland raft]

Kruul is just about staying calm and walking in circles

You got this

[waxen orbit]

^

[inland raft]

War is easiest one cuz p2 so short since we spamming execute

[lime urchin]

well, easy is a relative thing

[sick sentinel]

so on the left, we can see that like, 3/5s of the beams are no longer a threat due to proper placement, they just go into neverland

[inland raft]

And that doesn’t change you start on side move to wherever she moves to

And peope atand onsame side

The opposite side is still irrelevant

You can move her more if makes you comfortable but its pointless post nerf

[cinder nova]

@waxen orbit did you post the logs for the melandrus trinky

I'm farming it atm

[sick sentinel]

i've always done that figth this way and never ever had issues with it since learning that method

[waxen orbit]

Wdym the logs for it

I ain’t put it on Warcraft logs

[prime kayak]

how do i deal with kruuls annihilate ?

3rd did like 11k dmg

[cinder nova]

Press Shield Wall

[inland raft]

Shield block first, can demo second though i just blocked that one too

[ionic fern]

SB+IP
SB+IP+DS
SB+IP+LS (if you're full HP) and/or SW

[cinder nova]

Or just keep delaying it.

Mwahi don't be silly

[inland raft]

Then everything on third

[cinder nova]

DS is for DPS

[ionic fern]

Idk, i played DR.

[waxen orbit]

Gotta get those execute numbers up

[inland raft]

I just played m+ talents cuz just hopped in without thinking

[prime kayak]

before what annihilate im suppose to kill him ?

[jagged pier]

just dont get a 3rd

[cinder nova]

Why?

[waxen orbit]

Should only get 2/3 anns

[cinder nova]

Why dragon

[inland raft]

So bsc without reprisal and was fine

[cinder nova]

Just to one-shot the adds?

[ionic fern]

Mostly because i swapped to it for one try for fun and then forgot to swap back.
But jeah, it was great for adds.

100% not needed tho.

[cinder nova]

Yeah - don't the adds and boss wet noodle if you aren't clowning stacks

[ionic fern]

++

[inland raft]

I phases with 7 stacks and fresh adds even never felt like was in danger

Pal in other hand took me a while

[waxen orbit]

Thinking about her

[ionic fern]

[strong forum]

Wish it did dmg

But it's a dps loss to press it

Not worth

[sick sentinel]

how about... dragon shield..... and you hold up your shield and it deals a whole bunch of fire damage

[summer gorge]

When you hit phase 2 do you have 3 of the big fel golem things or 2?

[inland raft]

That… is what nelths was

[sick sentinel]

i didn't play any legion at all

except for quest leveling

bleh

[cinder nova]

I seriously miss Nelth's Fury

Being able to just he-man Taeschalach was so sexy

[blazing condor]

play Runescape

[sick sentinel]

already been there in 2003

before wow exist

[mellow bridge]

I had 3 I think but you can def phase him at 2 already

[blazing condor]

i am honestly so bad at this game

havent played for a while and still cant get MT down

im so fluctuating

feels like its full on rng if im gonna get into p2 or nah

[jagged pier]

gitgud

[blazing condor]

ya

im literally telilng you im shit

[strong forum]

Git gudder

[blazing condor]

not possible

ive peaked

im actual garbage

[strong forum]

Highly stacked garbage

And that from a guy with good parses

Smh

[blazing condor]

thats what pains me

here i am thinking im hot shit

when in reality im just shit

[jagged pier]

you and the forums both

at least u accept it and will get better i pray

[blazing condor]

🤷‍♂️

doubt

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxJ6N6xSECQ

when i start a key 🙂

welcome to hosetown, population: you

[waxen orbit]

Holy FUCK DO DPS EXIST ON ALLIANCE

JESUS TAP DANCING CHRIST

I'm literally just trying to do a 20 Nelth Lair and no DPS are signing up

Kyrian restosham and Kyrian prot warrior, both 2600+ and not a single DPS coming to this like w h a t

[sick sentinel]

im gunna go run this 14 halls and if i can time it and get a 15 im gunna run that

[mellow bridge]

you can do it Goodstuffe

[blazing condor]

no

[sweet summit]

yes

[blazing condor]

15% on 3rd annihilate getting tossed around like im a ping pong ball

[sweet summit]

oh what

[blazing condor]

ya

[sweet summit]

are u pressing buttons or

[blazing condor]

my only excuse is that moving with mouse during p2 is aids

thats not my record btw just my last pull

but still

[sweet summit]

oh ok

but yea

idk git gud or git cheese

[blazing condor]

id rather not do it at all than cheese

take it that i suck on the chin

no hollow victories

[strong forum]

Idk have you seen my p2 kill?

Can't be sloppier than that

[blazing condor]

it can

[distant crystal]

did you die with an orb up?

[blazing condor]

i recorded last pull lol

[strong forum]

M8

Watch my p2

I dare you

[distant crystal]

use them orbs early and often

[blazing condor]

ya im using orb

[distant crystal]

(assuming it's not radically different from druid)

[jagged pier]

M8 watch my P2 i nearly died to the adds

[strong forum]

Yeah

You've not seen mine

I lived with 39 hp

4 mobs on my ass

[blazing condor]

i had 2 orbs left when i died cus i thought i could live a 3 stack annihilate with full hp

and no defensives

[strong forum]

Twisted reflection not reflected

[distant crystal]

wo wo wo

[strong forum]

Can't get closer than that

[distant crystal]

warriors get to reflect it

[strong forum]

Yup

[distant crystal]

and do they heal off it?

[strong forum]

Yup

[distant crystal]

nerf!

[strong forum]

Pah

I did it without reflecting

So git gud

[mellow bridge]

yeah

but then you get baited by the SR

and end up reflecting the adds

and then you are sad

[distant crystal]

man the guide i was looking at said he always casts TR right after anni

[mellow bridge]

he usually does

[strong forum]

My guy only casted it like twice and I had to kick both

[mellow bridge]

tbf

[distant crystal]

the first one was right after anni but the rest were just whenever

[mellow bridge]

I didnt even reflect it in my kill

[distant crystal]

had me paranoid that i'd missed one

[mellow bridge]

cuz him becoming all shiny and sparkly made it too easy to miss the orbs

lmao

[distant crystal]

maybe cc'ing the boss to delay anni desyncs stuff

[strong forum]

You can't see shit

When you reflect it

[mellow bridge]

yeah

it's horrible

[strong forum]

That's how I got knocked off like 4 times in p2

Model too big

[mellow bridge]

I died like 2 or 3 times cuz of reflecting and not being able to see shit anymore under him

so I stopped doing it

[blazing condor]

yeah my p2 is so incredibly ass

[mellow bridge]

you can do it king

[blazing condor]

it honestly just feels 100% rng

i know what to do

but its so incredibly sloppy depending on pull

not tryna its all on me

not saying the fight is rng in that sense

[strong forum]

https://youtu.be/QFmd3StFEyw?t=3m54s

Check this shit

So bad

[modern brook]

nom strem

[strong forum]

And I got rng cucked too cuz 2 orbs ontop of each other

[blazing condor]

my last attempt was more scuffed tbh

[strong forum]

Very poggers

[blazing condor]

i got knocked 100 times cus i couldnt see shit

and i got stuck on the beams

[strong forum]

Idk how you can do that

Like, just abuse heroic leap and charge

You see me zipping like 14 times

[blazing condor]

i just struggle with moving around

dodging but still faceing kruul

[mellow bridge]

you can literally spacebar jump over beams

[strong forum]

Need to learn to strafe

[blazing condor]

i am jumping

[strong forum]

You're not strafing are you

[mellow bridge]

and yeah you just strafe kruul around in a circle

[strong forum]

Cuz youre moving with mouse

[mellow bridge]

99% smash dodges that way

[blazing condor]

yeah i got strafe bound

and i use it in m+ now and then

[mellow bridge]

I move with mouse and still strafe

[strong forum]

I always Strafe even when kiting

And turn around mid air

So I jump back, then turn around so I can block

[blazing condor]

i know that but never really been an issue

[strong forum]

Whilst jumping backwards

[blazing condor]

thats something i probably do

more natural

[strong forum]

And continue running away at max speed

Whilst still blocking

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-speed-gif-14031767

[blazing condor]

yeah i do that in this p2 attempt but mostly im just backpedaling which obviously doesnt work

[mellow bridge]

yeah you dont want that

[strong forum]

Backpedal bad

Always Strafe

Backpedal is only for group play

So the dumb dps can keep up

Or if you wanna micro re-position bosses/mobs

[blazing condor]

when i kite i just kinda book it with no issues i dont exactly get hit in the back

even without strafing

but yeah idk it's just

im watching my replay and i can see its just mess

[strong forum]

Git gudder, start strafing

And keep kalm

That's the main part

I could've saved my ass with better shockwaves /feares in my kill

But it's dead, I'm not happy about the kill but ah well

I got him to 10% on my 2nd attempt then I just kept being dumb for another 10

[mellow bridge]

that's a classic

almost get him very early on and then have retarded deaths for the next 30m

[distant crystal]

imagine killing the inquisitor in your first 20 attempts

[mellow bridge]

that's how I did like 3 of my challenges

[distant crystal]

couldn't be me

[blazing condor]

fuck it, strafe time

rebound some shit

[mellow bridge]

rebinding stuff monkaW

[blazing condor]

a tank isn't supposed to be doing solo content anyway

im still good in real tank settings like dungeons

[mellow bridge]

but you can get even better if you do MT

[blazing condor]

false

i do MT a lot and im still shit

[distant crystal]

with enough MT practice you can start soloing keys

[mellow bridge]

[blazing condor]

also having to rewatch the intro every attempt

[strong forum]

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