protection

[sick sentinel]

here's what i found

[cinder nova]

I already sent one that just does a /y when the aura engages and a /y when it drops.

[inland raft]

I have mine currently to /yell please interrupt or we all die! Rarely gets kicked now

[cinder nova]

Decided to publish it

https://wago.io/r0QzAlASj

It's painfully simple.

[wanton panther]

Hi everyone. I need some tips or suggestion for Sylvanas Mythic if anyone has good experience.
So we die at phase 3 at platform 3 where everyone says is the hardest part for the tanks. I end up dead due to 7-9 stacks on me + tank mechanic either Heartseeker or Banshee's Blades.
here is my character, gear talents, conduits etc: https://raider.io/characters/eu/Ravencrest/Pillowhuger
and here is our last wipe:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mfvJjqp8MdVzxw4Z/#fight=15

The problem is that we use Ironbark and Sacrifice on CD on the tanks and there are times that I and the healers are out of CDs. This is where I am 100% dead.

What can I do for max mitigation ? Maybe use The Wall or swap Night Fae ?
Thanks in advance!

[jagged pier]

U shoild need need ironbark or sac on the tank on cds, u only need them for certain points, u can actually take 7-10 stacks without cds at all. U have to really think about when your using your, for instance on first platfork i use LS ans aegis when fury is 10 seconds away so i get another use of LS later and aegis i can use like 2-3 more times in p3 i forget the actual number, but just spunking stuff on cd is never the way if u want ti maximize mitigation u need to understand how much u can take without a cd or an external then work from there

I only use 1 external in os and pain sup at the same time every pull

As your running repisal u could also charge and intervene more to get that extra rage for IP she hardly moves so u can run around the platform and get the rage

[runic sparrow]

platform 3 really is awful, especially for warriors

who is your co tank?

[jagged pier]

He has a vdh

[runic sparrow]

we've just started swapping a lot more on platform 3 and making sure to dispell after every veil

made it a lot smoother

[jagged pier]

But my point is you say u dont have externals try saving them or somthing for platform.3 i guarntee u wont need to stack as many cds as u are earlier

[jagged pier]

I dunno what we do tbh im so zoned in on the fight, im like this is where i use x

This is where i do y

When it gets to p 3 anyway

[runic sparrow]

eeh platform 3 still requires attention when im on warrior for me. monk on the other hand is just lmao on that boss. nothing does dmg

[runic sparrow]

how do you handle it? do you solo platform 3 or swap every cast or how?

[jagged pier]

As i said i dont really pay attention to it

I just know when i taunt where i stand and what i press

All the platforms after 1 just meld together for me

I basically just play on muscle memory

[wanton panther]

Thanks @jagged pier! I will try to make those tips to work!!

I will also switch to The Wall. Any suggestion about trinkets ? I am using Aegis and Scale right now and I was using Aegis + Ashes of Al Ar before.

[mellow bridge]

You don't really need the wall

Are you the primary boss tank? In that case reprisal is honestly better

I can't really check logs rn but you're probably just overusing defensives when it's not needed

Reading stuff like healer externals are being used on CD is a pretty big red flag

[wanton panther]

Well on CD I meant that I am in situations that I always need one external, when carrying 12 stacks, or when Sylvanas slaps my ass with Heartseekers.
Good to know about The Wall. I am co-tank but we almost share soaking and tanking the boss.

My big problem is when I have stacks + she casts a mechanic on me, either Heartseeker or Blades. I am like insta dead without any CD.

But thanks for your replies, I will try to use less CDs on the next run and hopefully I will have something ready for platform 3 🙂

[cinder nova]

Am I buying into a sim trap if I'm using Phantom Fire and Shadowcore Oil over Spectral Strength?

Also is Eternal Skirmish over Eternal Stats just a meme or is it quantifiably more DPS?

[teal swift]

St vs aoe

[cinder nova]

Skirmish is ST, Stats is AOE?

[mellow bridge]

Phantom fire is the completely normal choice for us in st

[slender loom]

I will be there in min know we still have time restarting my computer

[sick sentinel]

shaded weapon mod gang

[sand pebble]

i added my thoughts on 9.2 set bonus, what do we think

[cloud dagger]

should have added per mob affected

[urban portal]

nice meme

[jagged pier]

Well that teir set would be shit as we cant revenge like druids can spam thrash

[plush tendon]

I kind of like the current tier bonuses they came up for warrior

My issues with the class are the reliance on reprisal for SB uptime and AM not being baseline and instead on a row that affects SB uptime

[jagged pier]

I just want a teir set thats fun and interesting that changes are rotation slightly like the teir sets of old, so im happy

[plush tendon]

It’s cool to me

Empowers SB or thunderclaps

[strong forum]

It's gonna be huge for execute

Actually

LS + Banner + reprisal + mega SS rage + lots of avatar

Our execute is gna be nutty

[plush tendon]

I’m ready to drop the DK for war full time this coming tier

Even though the war TMog is poop

[jagged pier]

Maybe they actually fix banner rage and Unerving focus 🙏

[ocean yoke]

just threaten your raid team with being bad at anything that isnt prot warrior

works for me

[plush tendon]

I’m the raid leader

[strong forum]

Pain

[ocean yoke]

all the more effective then

[strong forum]

[jagged pier]

[plush tendon]

Put my warrior on some fights, but DK was used for Soulrender, guardian and probably Slyv starting next week

[ocean yoke]

i got lucky our other tank was way luckier on dk lootwise and subbed that on soulrender

[plush tendon]

Ive always been a DK main, but ever since BFA I’ve kept the warrior on par

Even leveled it second at the start of SL with all the haters like ‘war bad lmao’

[ocean yoke]

ive been enjoying some vengeance dh lately ngl

it takes me 15 mins routinely to stop double jumping every time im back on the warrior

[plush tendon]

I’m debating DH for next tier to, purely for M+

The bois and I got to figure out what comp we wanna run to push that title first though

[ocean yoke]

that battle shout niche is nice for raid

[plush tendon]

I traded my army of wars for a army of mages and boomkins

3 of each

The lack of a ehacement player was 😦

Just can’t find any

[ocean yoke]

i keep yelling at my team to put me in windfury group but they keep giving it to those dumb melee dps

like have you even considered my parse?!

[plush tendon]

Wished I cared about parses

[jagged pier]

I get in the WF group

[ocean yoke]

[jagged pier]

But we dont have many classes that benefit from it

[ocean yoke]

we do right now sadly so no windfury

i did have it a bit in nathria before patch rerolls

[jagged pier]

Well it depends right, looking at guardian i get about 600dps out of windfury, if u can get that and a dps gets less than that out of wf u should be in the group

[ocean yoke]

unfortunately the guy who went enhance is elemental on sylv prog now so no mire windfury for anyone

hoping to kill next raid day or next week though so thats nice

[plush tendon]

The real goal…. Force all my melee to turn into range specs (for raid)

Slowly but surely…. It will happen

[sand pebble]

but thats not what it does, bonus may as well read spend 240 rage to empower your next ss/tc/ip by 200% and pressing avatar gives 10% damage reduction and a free empowerment - rotation doesnt change - that empowerment is going 100% into ss, defensive avatar is mininal at best

[jagged pier]

it might only be used on SS, but slow on TC can also be used in some content, and it also adds the complexitiy of hitting 8 stacks and not having rage that when u hit that empowered SS with the extra rage gain, u dont overcap rage thats quite a bit of rage management to add to class thats already flooded in rage

especially during banner u dont want to overcapp ever u want ever bit of rage spend to so the banner buff is extended

[mellow gorge]

Real prot warriors will use empowered IP 😎

Probably won't even work cause it has a cap on max health

so it will be most likely less value than mention 😎

[strong forum]

We're gonna see how it plays out

But it's gonna create some awkward moments with rage management

That's where the skill ceiling will rise a bit

[mellow gorge]

true

it'd be quite nice to have a big slow

with empowered TC

if what i read was correct, w crackling thunder it'd be 90% slow

without it a 60% slow

[sweet summit]

yes

that is correct

[mellow gorge]

90% slow is juicy

though i'll lose bounding stride 😦

[jagged pier]

60% is more than enough

[autumn pendant]

62,4

[lilac bloom]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4JKxMhNGWw8P7g1V/ for mythic nine

[strong forum]

Needs more SS and revenge casts

And more execute

[jagged pier]

and more blocked hits

your at 54%

your running the wall?

[strong forum]

More avatars
More spears

[jagged pier]

and your not running PV as a conduit?

[strong forum]

4 avatars in an almost 9min fight is 7 avatars too little

[lilac bloom]

yah i'm running the wall

[strong forum]

You should also play booming voice and then demo shout on CD

You only used 1 shieldwall when you are playing the wall + am

Effectively making you not wear a legendary

[jagged pier]

[strong forum]

It's only a 1min CD when playing that setup

Start using it

[lilac bloom]

ya.. that i should

the thing is

the strat.. how i'm not realy tanking but just tanking after the boss does melovolance

[strong forum]

Just use it when you don't have SB anymore

[lilac bloom]

ok

[strong forum]

Then you'll already use it alot better

Cuz you only blocked 54% hits

Which is about 30-50% too little

Not using a CD is worse than suboptimally using it

And optimally using SW with wall + am is hard to judge

[lilac bloom]

what i want to know is the strat.. we we doing ok.. we did fine when we were tanking on the outer edge of the middle circle.. then where were .. melovalnce go to where tanks are putting suffering so easy to do melavolence.. .. ..

at 80% he has that armor.. we just let the main tank take try to hit first orb then 2nd and third orb lands hit witht the suffering from boss

we kinda did that till third 3rd phase and end up ppl dying

i think problem that time is.. i dind't help tank off tank the armor at 80%

he was like doing it all

so helm armor was look shooting suffering at boss and probably at raid too

[jagged pier]

the helmet beam does no damage and even then its up to the raid to avoid

the tank has to hit all 3 otherwise its pretty much a wipe if u arent used/ over gear the fight

the best way is to put the boss in the middle of the 2 closest ones so the helmet beam hits them

[mellow bridge]

you cant off tank the armor?

that's not a thing

[jagged pier]

and point the boss out at the odd one

the helmet will always aim at the boss

[mellow bridge]

^

[lilac bloom]

it does say on video that u just stand to the closest to the armor to aim the suffering somewhere or at orb

my raid leader says it.. aims at boss most of the time so doesn't need to tanked

[mellow bridge]

nah

that's wrong

maybe outdated ptr stuff

the helm always shoots his line straight to the boss

[lilac bloom]

yah thats what he says

[mellow bridge]

if youre not the active tank at the moment, you have nothing to do

just hit the boss and do dam

[lilac bloom]

thats waht i've beendoing

the other tank just takes the boss but most of the time he gets 3 or just 2 orbs

[jagged pier]

if there are 2 orbs up he should hit 2 if there are 3 he should be hiutting all 3

[mellow bridge]

yeah so if youre not the one having to snipe the orbs

you just have to aim the beam out of the grp

ez job

[jagged pier]

if he misses its up to u to hit the ones he miss with the next suffering

[lilac bloom]

yah

which is what ive been doing

just can't hit all

[jagged pier]

because hes ither missing to many

[lilac bloom]

i thought if i stand close to the helm it will hel pme aim the suffering to an orb

[jagged pier]

or your positioning wrong

[lilac bloom]

this is the one i haven't tried yet

[jagged pier]

poisitoning next to the helm is going to do nothing for u unless theorb is inline iwth the boss

[lilac bloom]

ok.. well then .. thats all on him

[jagged pier]

as i said above

[lilac bloom]

because all i do is just taunt boss after suffering

[jagged pier]

u need to put the boss in the middle of 2

and point the boss at the thrid

[lilac bloom]

ok

hopefuly.. that helps

what about transition to p3

[jagged pier]

if u mean shatter

and u arent using raid cds there

thats dumb

[lilac bloom]

ah i see

[jagged pier]

and if ppl cant dodge makes it even worse

[lilac bloom]

yah that is true

oh wells got 30% hopefuly we can get some changes

[supple temple]

Do you guys think we gonna change congreg for 9.2 ? i mean with set bonus and cov leggo

[lofty widget]

so far it's looking to be necro for raid and nf/kyrian for m+

[sick sentinel]

You know, looking back on I miss the infested mechanic as much as it grossed me out and scared me Lil but

You could see the infested dude, and you'd know it was going to happen but worms would drop and group would go apeshit

[mellow bridge]

infested was absolute trash

[strong forum]

Infested was horrible

Don't even attempt to sympathise it

With 1 Single mistake you could rip the entire key

And it's not even a "we'd die mistake"

It's just a "we can't do this pull anymore" mistake

[mellow bridge]

Especially lovely when the worms sometimes just bugged out

[mellow gorge]

wait why is it that bad

[mellow bridge]

because not being able to complete a key AT ALL anymore after 1 mistake is not very fun design?

[mellow gorge]

what does it do

to literally ruin a key

[mellow bridge]

infested mobs had a passive very strong healing aura that applied to any mob near them

[mellow gorge]

through 1 wrong push

ah

passive sanguine

[mellow bridge]

so you could only kill them in a pack

when they died, they released like 2 or 3 worms

if those worms reached another mob, that got infested too

add a couple of cc immune mobs in a pack, fuck up worms once

[strong forum]

10% healing per second

To the mobs around it

[mellow bridge]

now you have cc immune aoe healing machines that you cannot possible kill anymore

gg

[mellow gorge]

jesus

sounds impossible in inspiring weeks

[strong forum]

Imagine inspired mobs inside sanguine

[mellow bridge]

inspiring didnt exist luckily

[strong forum]

That's what infested was

But it's a sanguine that moved with the mobs

And once you killed the inspiring mob, it would split off into 2 little worms you had to kill

[mellow bridge]

it's literally the worst affix this game ever had imo

[strong forum]

Ify ou didn't kill, they would infest more mobs

And those mobs could heal again

And would spawn 2 worms again

[mellow gorge]

sounds terrible

indeed

speaking of which

[mellow bridge]

and besides being able to fuck up a key like that

[mellow gorge]

we don't know the affix for 3rd season yet

do we

[mellow bridge]

it was just NOT fun at all

nope we dont

[strong forum]

We won't know until a few weeks before 9.2 launch

[mellow bridge]

but the last 3 seasonal affixes ranged from okay to very good so I'm optimistic tbh

[strong forum]

Usually around 1-3 weeks before launch

Is when we will know s3 affix

[mellow gorge]

I see I see

hopefully it won't be prideful 2.0

coming in with more pride

[inland raft]

Its gonna be mini sylvanas mobs

That we have to redeem for a buff

[jagged pier]

leave my queen alone she just got her soul back

or somhing

i dunno lore

[inland raft]

Lol

[mellow gorge]

nah nah

the affix is going to be mandary choreghast run, clearing 1 layer while in a dungeon

[jagged pier]

i doubt it as u dont even need to do torghast next patch

[mellow gorge]

they'll find a way to drag it back

they always do

[inland raft]

The question is will the new leggo ranks still need the prior currency like still meed ash as well as cinders or completely free?

[dusky canopy]

I imagine this has been asked 1000s of times however I’ve been absent, So are their any legion time walking items worth collecting? I’m sure however nothing will contest aegis lol

[mellow gorge]

h m m m

[jagged pier]

from what we know the answer is no

its all from the new place

[mellow gorge]

There's a new currency called Cosmic Flux

that's all i know atleast

[lofty widget]

you will still need ash to get rank 1-6 tho

[inland raft]

Ya just wondering if they gonna remove that requirement or not

[mellow gorge]

"All legendaries can now be upgraded with Cosmic Flux, a new currency inspired by lessons learned from Echoes of Ny’alotha in Battle for Azeroth. Cosmic Flux will be rewarded from a variety of activities in Shadowlands Season 3, such as defeating raid bosses, PvP, Mythic+, Torghast, Tower of the Damned, and World Quests."

oop, there is choreghast

[inland raft]

Keyword there is upgraded

[jagged pier]

thats 1 of the sources

[mellow gorge]

ye, but as treas mentioned it's "upgraded"

so we might still need soul ash/cinders

to create it

then we use whatever the new currency is

and upgrade it

[inland raft]

Im hoping its totalt untied given they are trying to at least appear that they are learning

But guess time will tell

[ebon geyser]

Imagine thinking that once u have rank 6 u are done.

[inland raft]

Dont worry we will def have islands/visions/choreghast 4.0 in 10.0

[sick sentinel]

i liked infested because it made you panic

[strong forum]

[sick sentinel]

if you didn't deal with it, you were fucked

so, you HAD to

[inland raft]

It was shit

Especially with how buggy it was

Once killed something upstairs in waycrest

It infected the downstairs and also pulled them

There was also that rat in freehold

[sick sentinel]

i hated TD too, but se i never had the issue of mobs teleporting 3 floors up with final boss 50% hp and then it pulls everything else

the closest thing i had to that was pulling mob out of cage without rogue with twilight dev

the idiot test of under rot, you had to dodge a frontal cleave and random targeted breath (could stun it) and if you pulled left ticks you'd have to face them all away from group and then move away as the cast went off at death,
next pack has a guy that does both a heal and a prevent death, and you are supposed to be looking down the ramps to see which side randomly doesn't have the mask so you can pull the cleave matron.

fuck that place lol

[sturdy sable]

We do theyve mentioned wed still need ash to create the pieces

[mellow bridge]

holy shit that fucking rat

i completely forgot about it

[inland raft]

The most dangerous mob of azeroth

A rat

[sick sentinel]

i wish we could re-roll the missive stats on our already crafted leggos in 9.2 even if i had to pay ash/cinder or stygia i wouldn't mind

[inland raft]

Thats why you do haste/vers its hella safe

[sick sentinel]

i know, but what if i want to try haste crit rep for example

[inland raft]

Even on my pinkprot i do haste/vers even though mastery slightly better for them then vers

But its the safe choice as always good

[sick sentinel]

because i made these before 9.1.5, i was making them for arms at the time, so now i have to go farm gold, ash and cinder again to have proper stats on it, arms had its other one fixed

[jagged pier]

thats the stats u want on EM

if u play EM without crit u might as well not play the leggo

[inland raft]

Ya em is either vers/crit or haste/crit you want crit on it

So dont see the prob

[sick sentinel]

well, they fixed enduring blow so its the goto now like reprisal, and i crafted that with crit haste

thats finished at 262 now

[inland raft]

The bug for eb didnt change prio of leggo for arms, its the same as before with eb for st and em for parse padding on fights with adds

[sick sentinel]

i was briefly talking to arms and i believe they said that's only one you'll use now because it was fixed

[mellow bridge]

not for m+ or aoe in general, no

[sick sentinel]

oh, hmm, well, i mean, i'm sure 1 scuffed leggo can't hurt too much in 9.2, just bothers me a bit lol

[inland raft]

Nothing scuffed there though

[mellow bridge]

and you dont even have to do that

you can scrap old legendaries to get ash/cinders back

you "only" lose the gold

[inland raft]

Vers crit is ideal for both arms and prot em

[sick sentinel]

wow token is 25$ plus tax now, and i can't be bothered to level herb, i've heard that is insane money

[inland raft]

Just dont use mastery missives and your fine

[sick sentinel]

some guildy saying he made 30k farming some herb for like an hour

[inland raft]

Rest of the stats are fine for both specs and just change jewelry/gems/enchants if your super worried about stats though stats are so minor anyways

[sick sentinel]

i'd just be worried that some day i'd roll a healer monk for example and craft some legendary with crit mastery and then its like well, i'm out 25 bucks and most of the gold wow token just give me

and this leggo is garbage

[inland raft]

I mean you just check wowhead for what you should craft your gear with if you dont know the class or even just pop on raider io or wcl and see what stats majority use before crafting

Every class has stats that are always safe to choose

[modern brook]

legendary system is dog shit

[jagged pier]

i dont get what was wrong with the like 1 class leggo that was bis of the entire expansion

i thought that was nice

even when i couldnt get it

[modern brook]

reprisal :^)

[sick sentinel]

no mastery craft here

[modern brook]

Hear me out Jakey

Legion Legendary system

but instead of dropping the legendary

it drops a Korthinut

and you take it to the korthinut korthicracker

and you trade it in for a legendary of your choice

[jagged pier]

how about we just dont have borrowed power thats actually part of the class design and call them legendaries

🤷

[modern brook]

im trying to remain realistic jakey

[jagged pier]

its what we used ot have

[modern brook]

If we didnt have Borrowed power, hunters might need to learn to play T-T

[true sparrow]

Remove gear entirely, borrowed power.

everything should be based on quick math flash cards. Raids will deal with like, 13-times-tables.

[modern brook]

13 times table is ez

its the 12 times table + whatever your multiplying

ie 13x10=130

ezpz

[sick sentinel]

that becomes alot more complicated equation when its a physical bleed attack over 8 seconds you blocked and used SW for

[modern brook]

u;d just remove flash cards

vaughn's proposed system is flawless except thinking a prime number would make a good raid boss

[sick sentinel]

i think thats partly why shooters are more enjoyable too is because you have no idea if your attack will hit, and if it does hit will it deal damage, and if it does, how much

[modern brook]

?

[sick sentinel]

but, unless you take the game whatever it entirely apart, or count how many bullets it takes to kill something, you never really are told this is how much damage you do, and this is how much you need to kill X

[chilly brook]

I don't really feel like theres much of an issue with legendaries other than you lose them next xpac

[jagged pier]

well they arent really legendary is my point

they are supposed to be hard to get

and not everyone can get one

[chilly brook]

Granted I'm not a fan of reprisal because it's a bandaid fix for the problem of the class

So in that sense I have an issue with legendary design

Would you care that much if they were named something else?

[jagged pier]

i would still care the same

they shouldnt fix base class issues

[chilly brook]

Sure

But that's not a legendary problem

[sick sentinel]

the valor system and changes are good

because it worked in BC and wrath

you kill some bosses and get some points and you use those points to get or upgrade gear, perfection

[inland raft]

Lets gimp classes then give them a piece of gear that fills in the gap, engaging

[blazing condor]

feelsreprisalman

[sick sentinel]

cant stand doing these NF quest line

5/9 don't want to finish, can't stand that place personally

i like the ability way better than kyrian one personally because fucking huge attack range

[strong forum]

NF campaign is pain

Pure pain

Even with flying and speedrunning it, it took like 6hrs to finish

[plush tendon]

Best campaign is the Necro campaign

NF and Kyrian are both

[autumn pendant]

true

Necro is just a breeze

[wild hemlock]

10.0 when

[chilly brook]

Idk necro campaign feels like a drag to me

NF seems fast

[urban portal]

Going back to bfa takes forever

[tropic gorge]

I hope the people doing class balance are on the class discords, taking notes as to what the players want/would like to see

Or maybe be more transparent about their design goals/philosophy

[cinder nova]

https://tenor.com/view/ray-liotta-lmao-goodfellas-wiseguy-lol-gif-9467035

[strong forum]

Yeah nah they aren't

Half the time they don't know where to take a class

[cinder nova]

That actually made me laugh

[frigid thicket]

I was wondering what people would say if Victory Rush would generate rage. since its kinda rare that we get to use it, cuz we need the last hit on a mob to trigger it.

[cinder nova]

Neat, but not game-changing.

[smoky wave]

Gag Order back please.

[tropic gorge]

Lol I know. A boy can dream

[sick sentinel]

i do like 4 nf quests and then go AFK for an hour

[tropic gorge]

You guys have a lot more fortitude than I do. I'm not moving from kyrian, mostly because I don't want to do another cov grind

I consider myself lucky that kyrian goes so good with both arms and prot

[sick sentinel]

my goal is to have all 4 reknown 80 and the 262 leggos crafted before 9.2

[tropic gorge]

How many have you grinded so far

[sick sentinel]

kyr and NL

[fading dirge]

all four to 80, used all the easy covenant stuff like callings for venthyr so I didnt actually have to play it, and grinding the rest from dungeons and raids

[sick sentinel]

i did 40 to 80 necro in like 2 days

but i love necrolord banner

[tropic gorge]

Tank spec + heroic dungeon should be a quick ish grind until it stops giving renown

[mellow bridge]

why do you want the cov leggos at 262 yogi

that's a pretty huge waste of gold atm

since you'll be able to have all 4 on one slot

[tropic gorge]

I want a cosmetic war banner. :(

[sick sentinel]

9.2 you can use 1 cov with a normal one

and to say i did it

[tropic gorge]

With the option to use faction/race/cov as the sigil on it

[wild hemlock]

well in 9.2 you get a lego belt

[fading dirge]

yeah but like muy is saying you can build a belt that swaps covenants with you

[mellow bridge]

yes but you get a new legendary recipe

[wild hemlock]

that swaps when you swap cov

[mellow bridge]

that is all 4 cov leggos in one

it changes automatically when you swap cov

so you need only 1 instead of 4 leggos

[wild hemlock]

just hold tight buddy

[sick sentinel]

huh?

[mellow bridge]

yes

[wild hemlock]

lmao yes

[tropic gorge]

I didn't know the new leggos would auto swap. Now I don't feel as bad for not wanting to farm torghast!

[mellow bridge]

like if youre gonna use them right now, it's obv not a waste

but if youre making them in preparation of 9.2, youre wasting time and gold

[wild hemlock]

yes

[fading dirge]

Only the belt will auto swap mimic

which you will have to craft in 9.2 first

[frigid thicket]

reading this makes me really happy that i was hesitating about crafting a covenant leggo 😄

[sick sentinel]

well, i didnt' hear about the one that changes with you so

[tropic gorge]

Perfect. I'll take it

I've yet to get lucky and have a Dom socket belt drop. Watch me start getting them now lol

[ebon geyser]

I thought the belt was given

[mellow bridge]

there is no dom socket belt for us

[mellow bridge]

I dont think we know how it works 100% yet

[tropic gorge]

Oh. That explains that! Tbh I made legs off the icy veins guide and haven't looked at it since

[strong forum]

It's not only a belt, it can have several slots but only belt is confirmed as of yet

[sick sentinel]

that and because this is my first time doing NF or venthyr story

[tropic gorge]

I hope the new powers don't suck

[strong forum]

New powers?

[sick sentinel]

and by doing this i unlock 3rd soulbind on alts

[tropic gorge]

Oh it's the same regular non cov ones?

[strong forum]

Yes

[ebon geyser]

We don't get new power

[tropic gorge]

Can I put the wall on a belt?

[strong forum]

There's not gonna be new legendaries

[mellow bridge]

they might balance the cov legendaries a bit but there wont be any new ones

[tropic gorge]

Cause in my mind reprisal + wall could be amazing. Altho I'm sure I'll be proven wrong about thst lol

[ebon geyser]

Imo let the belt be cov and wall or reprisal in back

[fading dirge]

you cant do the wall and reprisal

it has to be a legendary and a cov legendary

[tropic gorge]

Of yeah they are both normal

Oh*

[ebon geyser]

I think is one legendary be cov specific and another legendary of your choice

[mellow bridge]

yea

[tropic gorge]

Is there a good tank cov power? I haven't looked at the seller since I bought em for arms

[strong forum]

So it's gonna be reprisal + X

[ebon geyser]

Boom internet is better than mine lol

[cobalt garden]

I swapped to a Green boy so I could test Avatar with Banner and the Giant Skeleton Toy. Next tier, my goal is to maintain a gigantic skeleton for as long as I can each pull. #goals

[strong forum]

X being necro/kyr/nf/venth leggo

[ebon geyser]

Or the wall if u feel adventurous lol

[strong forum]

Yeah nah

[ebon geyser]

Reprisal is too juicy

[strong forum]

I said it since 9.0.5, you're inting if you play Wall

And I'm not gonna go back on that

[mellow bridge]

agreed, wall is int for almost everything

[cobalt garden]

Wait, inting? LULULU

[fading dirge]

I used it on Mythic eye prog, but after the kill I never remembered to switch to it

[sick sentinel]

yeah, well, i still feel like crafting lure for torghast farm runs, and theres at least 1 other leggo i know for sure i need, norgranons i think?

[cinder nova]

Don't need it on M Eye prog

[sick sentinel]

kek

[cinder nova]

Progged on eye with EM bro

You can easily coast on EM before hitting the upper half of the raid, even on prog

[mellow bridge]

I was in a pretty bad build when I progged eye so I actually needed wall to live

*guild

[cinder nova]

Just press your buttons better.

[cobalt garden]

Does "inting" still me purposefully losing, or did the definition change?

[cinder nova]

Intentionally feeding, otherwise just throwing.

[mellow bridge]

I guess you arent purposefully losing but you are being worse on purpose for no real reason

[cinder nova]

You're actively being a detriment.

It's being hyperbolic on purpose to make a point.

[sick sentinel]

it stems from "intentionally throwing the game"

[mellow bridge]

this

[sick sentinel]

int'ing is worse than playing bad

its playing bad, on purpose or not caring if you are playing bad

newb vs n00b

[mellow bridge]

ngl this week is making me want to play a dps alt

but idk what to play

🤔

[sick sentinel]

a perfect example would be the boss casts a fire circle around you, so you put it on the warlock to have him killed, or stand in it your self, take the cleave melee to the priest and aim it right at them

that kind of thing

[jagged pier]

fury or arms

[cinder nova]

Maybe I'm just potato brain, but EM Fury feels weaker than EM Arms in keys.

[strong forum]

Windwalker

[sick sentinel]

i boosted a rogue and i have a 208 mage ready

[cinder nova]

I peaked at around 68K DPS on some pulls as arms

Fury barely pushed 30K

[strong forum]

Arms has higher peaks

But lower lows

[sick sentinel]

thats why im trying to do the questlines, but i just CBA'd

[strong forum]

Fury is consistently average

[cinder nova]

idk I've never really seen the low lows except on some weird pulls. Usually I'll have WB/Spear for every pull and I alternate between SS with it and OPC+BS+Ava on others.

Fury I saw a lot of pulls where I just didn't have BC

[sick sentinel]

i got a couple other toons at lvl 50 as well i just want to have as much crap unlocked for them as possible

[cinder nova]

In generally it felt a lot more desynced, so I could've been playing like shit

[urban portal]

Fury's consistent cleave is much better

If packs live long

[sick sentinel]

i always prefered arms but okay

[inland raft]

Just play ww

Press spin2win with bdb and do double next persons damage

[tropic gorge]

I'd like to try fury again. I do prot/arms with a focus on prot.
I tried fury for a weekend, I need some better stats and a much better weapon to really make it work for me

But rampage crits for each hit is super sexy. But outside of that, for me st least it felt meh

[modern brook]

fury owns

[rotund thicket]

does anyone know why most of the top log necro warriors play marileth? i thought Heirmir is the play for pumping?

[modern brook]

Marileth simmed more

@runic sparrow

also one of the slimes fucks idr which though

[rotund thicket]

wydm with fucks? do you mean the 6% dmg gain?

@modern brook thats mine: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/v8sGV6sNLdCEPXU2gghe5z

[modern brook]

yeah this one

[modern brook]

this is dslice?

[rotund thicket]

oh rip, i simmed dungeon

xD

[modern brook]

yeah ok

lol

[rotund thicket]

nvm then, merileth just sims 70 dps higher on ST 😄

[modern brook]

#protection message

around this message is julor and i's conversationon the topic

[wild hemlock]

i was gonna say it should just be ST since the buff applies to the mob only

not on yourself

[mellow bridge]

doing that rn and i obv instantly forget to swap conduits

[runic sparrow]

Kevins oozeling is nutty

[rotund thicket]

i really thought the 3% str buff from heimir would be better

[runic sparrow]

Everything about marileth is just insane for raiding. The oozeling, stat buff on fleshcraft usage + cc immunity and the shield buff on super short cd for when you drop below 50%

[kindred willow]

how difficult is mythic sylv p3 for prot warriors in general compared to other tanks?

[runic sparrow]

doable, but a lot more rough than on something like monk or dh

[kindred willow]

our new tank is having a lot of issues with it, i did it as bdk so kinda hard to give any advice 😄

[runic sparrow]

platform 3 can be rough, especially if you arent bis geared

i usually get all the externals in p3

[kindred willow]

platform 2 seems to be the issue, usually he wont make it to p3

[runic sparrow]

can you send some logs? proper usage of spell reflect can go a long way

[kindred willow]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tfGwaHFrdm4nxC9Y/#boss=2435&difficulty=5&wipes=1&type=deaths

theres the log from yesterday, ignore everyone else, our group was turboscuffed

[modern brook]

:)

[jagged pier]

when u die on platofrm 3 because aegis is 1 sec off cd C:

[runic sparrow]

from a quick look, most of his deaths are from either:
sitting on too many stacks
not having anything up for banshees blade / heartseeker
or sitting on low hp for long enough between banshees to die from a second cast of it.

but i mean phase 3 is rough for tanks, especially if they arent used to it

it can take a bit to learn when to use defensives and when you can rely on ignore pain / healers

[sick sentinel]

7/9, i'm workin on it

[runic sparrow]

deaths like these for example are hard to survive. sitting at 50-60% for so long makes surviving another banshees ability rough

[sick sentinel]

maybe onto venthyr tonight if no further hiccups

[runic sparrow]

you have two discs though, i'd recommend trying to get him to call for pain supp more often

[sick sentinel]

i know pi is technically good for us, but who should be primary target for it,

[runic sparrow]

we should be 😎

[jagged pier]

prot warrior in execute phase

[sick sentinel]

i have to add it to my ability team tracker, but there is priest in our guild

he doesn't understand why i take alot of damage when i play badly got mad lol, 100% because not enough blocky blocky

[runic sparrow]

i got this nutty log yesterday on remnant due to PI

[jagged pier]

yer but i instantly invalidate any log i see with PI

[frigid thicket]

in my guild it was always reserved for our boomkin

[sick sentinel]

one of the guildies says "enhance go brrr...."

which is 100% opposite what u told me lol

someone not u maybe

[runic sparrow]

tbh they should just remove it. its ridicilous how much it does

[jagged pier]

yes

if u know how to game it

[sick sentinel]

i just don't know how long the PI CD is so what abilities i would want to time it with if i was the target

[runic sparrow]

really hoping they make a buffless leaderboard. one of our rogues keep messaging them asking for it, but they say it'll take too much server space.

[sick sentinel]

just, i dunno about priests

[runic sparrow]

banner

[lofty widget]

just make it a personal buff

[jagged pier]

6.9 k on guardian without PI and with the wall equiped

rank 1 3 pis

and only 400 dps higher than me

[sick sentinel]

nono, i know what to do, enhance shammy, PI priest, uh, rogue or monk maybe swap monk for hunter/warrior/dk

[jagged pier]

look at this

[sick sentinel]

pretty sure feral cat dps is dead

[jagged pier]

me on my own with the wall

all the rest of u using dps leggos

[sick sentinel]

i have no idea what kind of buff that would bring

[modern brook]

To store two leader boards yeah. To hide unethical parses by default should be ez though

[runic sparrow]

yeah but then you run into problems like what counts as unethical parses

one pi? warrior banner buff? windfury?

people would be up in arms

[modern brook]

Nerds will complain about anything

[sick sentinel]

does feral cat give some kind of debuff of party buff?

[modern brook]

No

[runic sparrow]

as fun as it can be with external damage buffs, i hope they remove them next expansion. its so messy to play around

[sick sentinel]

nothing we can work off?

[modern brook]

Uhh kindred affinity

But that's not unique to feral

[runic sparrow]

i think we'll see some absurd numbers next tier during progress with buff stacking.

[modern brook]

I honestly don't mind them

I just think they do too much

Like imagine pi I'd it just gave a 10 min debuff that made it so you couldn't benefit from it again

Ethical team work

[sick sentinel]

2venthyr+X priests, 1enhance sham, 2 necrowarrior

[frank hemlock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784484669071818752/916060273394217020/image0.jpg

could be fake news wlogs posted it

[runic sparrow]

pretty sure thats fake. seen that posted with different dates a few times

[mighty valley]

there is no hotfix post for today

also they would not make that change in a hotfix lmao

a friend made me a weakaura which plays Gas Gas Gas when I get PI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljwUlY9WW1I

[scarlet wedge]

any of you able to get the tier set working on PTR? i had it working for a bit inside Oribos and popped avatar, havent worked since

[deft vortex]

jeez gonna need a weakaura to track overburst stacks on prot warrior.

[scarlet wedge]

nvm, relogging worked

[ionic fern]

Jep, it's weirdly buggy.

[scarlet wedge]

noticed that Ignore pain at 6+ stacks just consumes the Outburst stacks without getting the increased effect

[ionic fern]

Jep, as i said..weirdly buggy.

[mighty valley]

report the bugs, s'what ptr's for

[frigid thicket]

thats why its a TEST realm. to see if everything is working as intended 😉

[ionic fern]

Really?:O

IF ONLY I KNEW EARLIER.

Damn.

[mighty valley]

mwahi mid-way through leveling his 6th character on ptr, his new home

[scarlet wedge]

was mostly cause class discords sometimes likes to gather info about the bugs

[ionic fern]

👍

[runic sparrow]

anyone tested how set bonus works with the wall and heavy repercussions yet?

[ionic fern]

Doing the scenarios now.

Tho getting sick of the re-logging every time it bugs out.

[modern brook]

Strem

:^)

[sick sentinel]

they're waiting for you, in the test chamberr

[ionic fern]

It does.

[runic sparrow]

lmao thats nuts

AM still probably better, but pleasantly surprised that they made sure The Wall works with it

[lofty widget]

does that mean 60 rage and 15 seconds off wall cd?

[sick sentinel]

reprisal glory leggo haste first crit 2nd versa mastery last

someone give it a go

[ionic fern]

Scratch that - it seems it doesn't. I just went over the logs
Without anything = 45 rage
With The Wall + HR = 53

[sick sentinel]

no, run AM

[slim vortex]

Is the 2pc actually giving outburst stacks right now? The 4pc gives it to me, but not the 2pc.

[keen laurel]

is anybody able to tell me how much value windfury adds to the necrolord legendary for banner uptime?

[sick sentinel]

3 1 1 ? 2 3 1 talents

[ionic fern]

The 2p is bugged as hell currently.

[slim vortex]

K, so I'm not just crazy.

[ionic fern]

At random times it just stops giving stacks

And you have to re-log to make it work again

And then it stops again.

So it's kinda horrible to testr.

[runic sparrow]

ah thats actually sad

[slim vortex]

It doesn't even give a trackable buff, does it?

[ionic fern]

No.

[slim vortex]

Cool cool cool.

[ionic fern]

Time to check Necro for all of you NL fanboys.

First things first..did they fix Banner with Unnerving..

[runic sparrow]

hoping theyll update it so it works with the talents and wall

kinda shitty if it doesnt

[fading dirge]

The offensive/defensive mode shield you can get from the vendor in Oribos is a really cool idea. Extra block and 22k shield on lowest health target, then use it and it switched to a shield spike and on use damage

[ionic fern]

Banner not fixed yet. 😦

[runic sparrow]

Banner not fixed? What issue does banner have

[ionic fern]

Unnerving + Banner i mean.

[runic sparrow]

oh wow, ive been playing necrolord since CN and had no idea that was bugged

but tbh you get so much rage during unnerving that its hard not to rage cap even if that is bugged

[ionic fern]

You know what's fun?
During the "so much rage moments" you are forced to dump with IP and this means you will more than likely not be getting those 2p procs with SS.

[runic sparrow]

yeah that might be awkward occasionally

[ionic fern]

SS + Unnerving works btw.

With Outburst

~69 rage

[runic sparrow]

lmao

i mean surely they are gonna fix it so wall and HR* works with it. must be an oversight

which would result in almost 100 rage gain shield slams

[ionic fern]

It's really awkward testing it currently.
You can check your buffs but you pretty much have to stop using IP at 7 stacks since if you use IP during that time it will auto-consume the buff with it.

[runic sparrow]

wait so if you are at 7 stacks and use IP, bringing you to 8 stacks, that IP consumes the stacks?

[ionic fern]

Jep.

[runic sparrow]

thats so dumb

[ionic fern]

Jep.

😄

[runic sparrow]

wish theyd just remove the ip all together

its so bad

[ionic fern]

It literally doesn't need to be there.

[runic sparrow]

in every situations we'll use SS or thunderclap

we are never ever going to want IP 50% buffed

[ionic fern]

It's going to be one of those "GOD DAMN IT" moments when you do get it.

[modern brook]

100 healing parse inc

[runic sparrow]

Indomitable is going to start being even better with all the extra rage we're getting

[modern brook]

the gimmick is your healers keep you alive at 30% HP

[ionic fern]

The fun thing is that it currently doesn't provide you the "buffed IP" from the Outburst either because it's used at 7 stacks and not 8.

[modern brook]

and u spam never surrender buffed IPs

[ionic fern]

So you just lose the stacks and get your regular IP.

😂

[runic sparrow]

jfc

[ionic fern]

Well, it's the first pass on the PTR so lets hope these issues get fixed.

[runic sparrow]

surely

it being so buggy brings hope that it'll have the expected synergies with talents / legendaries

[modern brook]

from what ive heard a lot of the effects are server side scripts instead of spell effects rn

so it might have stuff to do with that

[ionic fern]

Jeah.

Seeing 15-17k SS crits feels nice tho.

[runic sparrow]

wish theyd allow it to work with execute too 🥲

90k executes yes please

[modern brook]

bug report

"works with ip not execute"

[runic sparrow]

wonder if we're gonna see the return of TC spam warrior from bfa

with unstoppable force

[frigid thicket]

i think we should get an overall IP buff. not as a choice to use it with the new set

[modern brook]

iunno 1 tc every 240 rage dealing the damage of like 1.5 revenges

idt its coming back

[sturdy sable]

^

Was just typing that lol

[modern brook]

i think they just through tc on there cause it covers aoe

[sturdy sable]

Most likely

[modern brook]

like most prot warrior things

i wont lie i dont like the set i think its lame :/

even if it worked

[runic sparrow]

pretty sure its gonna be closer to 2.5-3x a revenge. still questionable, but worth exploring

[modern brook]

i guess

[get 8 stacks]->clap -ava->revenge->revenge->clap

will likely be the move in aoe

I just dont think UF will be worth using

its not like avatar actually helps us generate rage at all after its first use so we wont be able to take advantage of the tc cdr

[sick sentinel]

1 more faction quest line to go

[modern brook]

I'm sitting here trying to edit this rotation to be right

and i cant even do that

[modern brook]

the chance of you being able to sit the CDR without procing Slam or needing to burn rage and thus overcap a stack of outburst is like im possible

[frigid thicket]

[get 8 stacks]->clap -ava->clap->revenge->revenge->clap maybe?:D

[modern brook]

cant do clap->ava->clap

cd

[frigid thicket]

true, im not the smartest

[modern brook]

i did the same

you could likenvm

[strong forum]

6.5k crit

Just as expected

You get 1 kegsmash every 30 seconds

Actually no

Kegsmash crits for 11k

[jagged pier]

It so low

[modern brook]

prot sucks 😦

[strong forum]

Our ST will be nice

[modern brook]

add a 0 to both

2000% TC clap damage

500% IP

[strong forum]

if they fix the set

Big if

[modern brook]

nah they will

[strong forum]

Watch them

Just watch them

[modern brook]

whatever the next broken version we see is the one we'll be stuck with tbh

From my understanding most set bonsues are not actual thinsg yet

they're just scripts

so a lot of the bugs are steming from that

[runic sparrow]

remove the IP interaction and make it work with talents and legendaries and its really good

but yeah hopefully its just due to the script thing that it doesnt already

[strong forum]

My genius is almost frightening

[ionic fern]

See, it's funny. I could have casted a SS for ~15k damage there instead and multiple Revenges off from the rage gained. 😂

[modern brook]

T-T

[ionic fern]

And that was in a 5 target situation

[strong forum]

[modern brook]

i like that there are multiple situations for us to lose damage with this

[strong forum]

:)

Pretty easy for guide writing tho

"NEVER USE OUTBURST FOR TC OR IP"

(unless you want that slow from TC)

[modern brook]

LMAO

bro

you know how many people are gunna be like

YEAH I USE MY OUTBURST TC ROOT THEN LEAP AWAY TO KITE

in 9.2

for there like weekly +10

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-laugh-kek-intensifies-kek_intensifies-gif-10111909

[modern brook]

less funny is the # of people we'll get saying "I feel squishy idk why im always using outburst on ip and just die" 😦

[sick sentinel]

quad slow with with crackling thunder

[ionic fern]

OH

OIH

OH

The slow from TC is still 20%.

😂

[modern brook]

o'riley'ssss

[strong forum]

HAH

[modern brook]

LMAO

[pallid isle]

but that sheild. Love having thorns back

[strong forum]

GG

[modern brook]

TCLAP cant win bro

[mighty cairn]

is the rage gain for tc/ss boosted

[strong forum]

Die tclap die

Yes rage is boosted

[modern brook]

yeah

[sick sentinel]

check if the TClap duration is double

[modern brook]

tripled*

[sick sentinel]

that too

[strong forum]

Yo, what if that set bonus tripled SS reset chance

[pallid isle]

TClap my slow shows 40% w/ outburst

[modern brook]

honestly ive said it

[sick sentinel]

someone has to test the necro thing though

[modern brook]

give me back 0cd shield slamin battle cry

thats the tierset

[sick sentinel]

must be enough idiots on ptr to get a key together

[frigid thicket]

is double leggo available on ptr?

[sick sentinel]

raid too cuz it was raid heavy more than m+

[ionic fern]

Wait, it's a tooltip error.
Blizzard is breaking me with this testing wtf.

[modern brook]

T-T

how is it 40

it should be like

60 w/o talent 90w/

right?

[mighty cairn]

how good does the wall look with tier set

or is it pure cope

[runic sparrow]

depends who you ask : )

[modern brook]

it doesnt work with it this iteration

assuming we can trust mwahi

[runic sparrow]

surely theyll update it so it does

[modern brook]

yah

i think its safe to expect that

[runic sparrow]

with wall + glory + tier set we are looking at shield walls potentially sub 40 seconds

which is absolutely nuts imo

[modern brook]

yaeh i mean

yeah

thats nuts

thats an 8% overall damage decrease on its own

well thats a misleading statement

but 40% DR for 8s every 40s will reduce 8% of all damage taken as the duration of the fight extends to infinity assuming equal rate of intake

the next time someone asks why we cant/dont sim for survivability can we just quote the above statement jeez

[sick sentinel]

picture form, for future pin

[modern brook]

you should crop my name out

Mwahi wont pin things i say becaue im too right

[sick sentinel]

i mean, there is also no infinity fight most times because there is usually some kind of wipe mechanic on most bosses

[modern brook]

also rarley do fights have a steady damage intake

turns out theres a lot of variablity in tanking which makes it hard to generalize

[agile pumice]

Isn't shield wall 50%?

[sturdy sable]

It is now

[modern brook]

Oh

9% then

Maybe 10% actually

I'm doing mental math here so cuT me some slack

[sturdy sable]

Also we have to compare the wall to glory it terms of SW reduction in think the wall beats out the rsge gen from glory

Wait

[runic sparrow]

Yeah wall reduces shield wall way more than glory does

[modern brook]

No we don't:)

[sturdy sable]

Im dumb

[runic sparrow]

but you can run both which is the point

: )

[modern brook]

Are we getting higher conduit levels too or nah?

[chilly brook]

Should be

They are supposed to be adding/tuning souldbinds/conduits but not adding more renown

At least according to the preview

[frigid thicket]

buff fueled by violence pls. thanks blizzard ❤️

[chilly brook]

Gross

[frigid thicket]

i wish that conduit was at least usefull. but right now its just too weak imo

[vague quarry]

I'm more of a lurker, but just wanted to thank you guys for sharing all the prot warrior knowledge and wisdom, manged to get my first keystone hero ach tonight ❤️

[chilly brook]

That's what idiots like me are here for

[strong forum]

"we've heard you loud and clear, we will be adding more renown levels and not add or tune any conduits!"

[ionic fern]

[strong forum]

grats

[chilly brook]

Kekw

[wheat bronze]

From my testing of the 2pc

Outburst Consuming 30 rage grants a stack of Outburst, upon reaching 8 stacks of Outburst your next Shield Slam or Thunder Clap are 200% more effective, or your next Ignore Pain is 50% more effective.

There are two buffs associated with this:
364006: This is simply a tracker for how much rage you've spent. You gain 1 stack per 30 rage spent. Extra rage is still stored (ie you have 40 rage spent, you will be at 1 stack and 10 rage towards your next stack).
364010: This is the aura that actually buffs your next Shield Slam, Thunder Clap, or Ignore Pain.

This means you need 240 rage spent to get the 364010 aura.
The issue is if you are at 200+ rage spent and you get to 240+ by using an Ignore Pain (costs 40 rage), you spend the rage first, which gives you the 364010 aura, and it is immediately consumed by the cast of Ignore Pain; completely removing your choice to use it for damage.

[ionic fern]

Jep.

[chilly brook]

Oof

[strong forum]

[chilly brook]

I'm not worried though

That will get fixed

Would be a huge oversight if it didnt

[frigid thicket]

if you got one, youre definitly able to get the others aswell! keep on working and you will have them in no time 😉

[wheat bronze]

It doesn't even seem like it buffs the casted Ignore Pain, just consumes the aura

[chilly brook]

Everything else seems to work like it should

[modern brook]

Mwahi and friends had a conversation re that a bit above

[wheat bronze]

Ah

[modern brook]

But yeah that seems to be the current implementation always good to have it confirmed

[shut summit]

avatar also just deletes all your buffs and gives you the effectiveness one, feels bad

[chilly brook]

I'm assuming someone spaghetti coded

[wheat bronze]

This makes sense (no pun intended) to me, though

[ionic fern]

It's awful from gameplay perspective tho.

[modern brook]

I need a weezing laugh emoji stat

[chilly brook]

Doesn't make much sense to me

[frigid thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[mighty cairn]

are they trying to encourage people to minmax avatar after consuming the buff

[runic sparrow]

are we able to stack more than 8 stacks?

[mighty cairn]

feels awkward

[ionic fern]

No. 🙂

[mighty cairn]

hopefully changed

[shut summit]

nope

[wheat bronze]

There are other abilities that work the same way already

[runic sparrow]

zzzz

[shut summit]

when you have the effectiveness one active, cant gain anymore

[chilly brook]

Doubtful

Probably just spaghetti code

[mighty cairn]

yeah prob

[strong forum]

Off to a great start

[modern brook]

From what TCS in other cords have said the implementations aren't real

It'd all server side scripts

[strong forum]

Wake me when September ends

[modern brook]

And a lot of these bugs would point to that being the root cause

[chilly brook]

It's the first PTR build

All expected

[modern brook]

Yeah

[chilly brook]

This patch has a while before its coming

[modern brook]

The bigger problem at hand is that 2/3 the set is a trap

[ionic fern]

It's a big mini-game of not hitting the wrong button.

😂

[shut summit]

yea not a fan

[chilly brook]

It's the old BoC

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-saitama-whack-a-mole-gif-15044824

[chilly brook]

Only consume on blackout kick

[frigid thicket]

the only minigames i play belong in mario party

[chilly brook]

Or rather tiger palm

[strong forum]

Pwar 9.2 gameplay colourised

[chilly brook]

Never anything else

In our case, only consume on shield slam

[strong forum]

Meanwhile vdh

Oh only 17m uptime on immo aura which does 20k dps by itself?

And generates souls for free?

[chilly brook]

Kekw

[strong forum]

Truly a 1apm spec now

[runic sparrow]

so excited to proc the 8th stack right after pressing shield slam and then afking for 4 seconds

[strong forum]

Pogging

[chilly brook]

Just press revenge

For a reset

Duh

[mighty cairn]

does soul cleave getting uncapped in 9.1.5 mean anything for vdhs in keys

[chilly brook]

[mighty cairn]

or is it just a minor thing

[chilly brook]

Minor

[strong forum]

Minor thing

They do like 6% more dmg now

[mellow bridge]

I hate how the optimal play for VDH literally removes a button from their rota with the new 4p

it's such bad design

[mighty cairn]

kk i dont play the class but vdh looks like a fun alt tank

[chilly brook]

VDH is gonna be disgusting in 9.2 though in terms of damage output in keys

[strong forum]

Vdh isn't fun unless you play spirit bomb

[mellow bridge]

they should make it so that you dont lose your GI stacks when you refresh immo if that's what they're going for..

[chilly brook]

Irregardless of the set bonus

[modern brook]

Vdh is going to be disgusting period because u have to play dh

Whata grody class

[strong forum]

And spirit bomb is alot harder to play optimally

[mighty cairn]

isnt havoc still going to be good in raid

[chilly brook]

Double lego means you're going to be doing a lot of Kyrian sigil

[mellow bridge]

SpB + BF is pretty fun ngl

[mighty cairn]

or will people run vdh and havoc

[strong forum]

As it stands right now

Anything but vdh is wrong

Cuz they have infinite damage

With 4p

[modern brook]

Iunno

This has Akari vibes

Or sinful surge

Like the thought it's getting to live is a bait and ur dumb for thinking it

[strong forum]

Hence why I said

As it stands right now

It will never go live like this

[modern brook]

Yeah but I don't get to call you dumb often

So I'm jumping on it

[mighty cairn]

do you think glory will ever get changed to only effect party members like wf totem

it feels awkward microing the buff in raid

[modern brook]

Prolly not

[strong forum]

You don't micro it

[modern brook]

^

[strong forum]

Just don't

Not worth it

[runic sparrow]

glory is pure selfish, whoever is lucky enough to get it gets it

[sick sentinel]

i just press the button and if you wanted it you were tracking it and beside me

if i use the glory i tell people about it in hopes they listen or see it and understand

i never know if that works

[strong forum]

Banner is to be treated like a comic con ticket

Be there or be triangle

[modern brook]

[mighty cairn]

sounds fair enough

[modern brook]

I unironically don't get that nom

[mighty cairn]

was easier to play around necro in cn back when the uhdks would just get it

[strong forum]

From what the hit TV series "The Big Bang Theory" taught me, the tickets to comic con sell in literal seconds and only the absolutely omega yoinkers get it

[sick sentinel]

BAZINGA

[strong forum]

And the other part is a popular saying "be there or be square"

But the subversion of expectation of the rhyme "there and square" to swap it out with triangle(another geometric form), creates comedic effect

https://tenor.com/view/bow-bowing-michael-scott-steve-carell-the-office-gif-5632990

[chilly brook]

Literally make a WA tracking its CD and give it to any DPS who cares and tell them that they better be near you when it's off CD because you're pressing it on CD

[mighty cairn]

yeah back when i used it i had a "banner up in 10s" weakaura

and a weakaura saying which 2 allies was closest to me

time to play around with necro/glory on reclear

[sand pebble]

anyway to track this bonus, stacks or what it actually does?

[ionic fern]

?

[sand pebble]

yes that one

i see no buff

[ionic fern]

That is the buff..

Maybe your ui messing up?

[ionic fern]

Showing in logs just fine

In game look at the buffs .

What else are you looking for?

[sand pebble]

no buff shows, no tooltip changes

[ionic fern]

Literally from in game..buff shows and tooltip change once it hits 8