and i assume you went with koryan instead of mika
#protection
uncut juniper
uncut juniper
mhh k
ionic fern
@coarse seal buddy..what is this
uncut juniper
gonna craft seismic then and see how it works. since its only for dps pump gain i assume going with crit / versa missives? :D
coarse seal
<@798669903858630696> buddy..what is this
I change them all the time I wouldn't look to deep into that
ionic fern
What are you even changing...
We only have a couple of solid options
And are you using ItF/HR in dungeons also?
jagged pier
coarse seal
I think I left them on recently but I haven't pushed a key, when its a push week I'll have a play around
Melee dps think its hug the tank week ๐ค
jagged pier
it was pudh week thid week
coarse seal
Yeah I was trying those out and I also find it doesn't show all my changes, I was trying ones that suck just to see if I was missing out and it shows that. Idk how this all updates what do you run?
This week?
I wouldn't bother pushing if you gotta pug
Grim
ionic fern
The same as i run every week:
-Kyrian/NF/NL specific conduit
-AAF (if i go 2nd potency)
-Unnerving Focus
-Stalwart Guardian
-Sphere
Next week is kinda free also, it's Necrotic/Sanguine.
jagged pier
oh thats free as fuck
ionic fern
God damn DBD..made me write Unnerving Presence instead of Focus.
coarse seal
oh thats free as fuck
What keys did you push this week?
jagged pier
u think i play the game?
literally log in for raid
and mwahi keys
pugged my 20s like week 3
stopped
coarse seal
Oh OK, that is impressive
ionic fern
I think i did 2 19's this week but that's about it. ๐
jagged pier
no
coarse seal
unless u want to join skyhold weeklies
Do you guys stream these?
jagged pier
i was supposed to
gaunt dawn
nome usually does
jagged pier
maybe next time
jagged pier
nome usually does
nome hasnt in ages as he doesnt have a sub
ionic fern
๐ฆ
gaunt dawn
p rude of him
ionic fern
Next week stream Jakey.
jagged pier
there are vids on his channel to
ionic fern
jagged pier
Next week stream Jakey.
strong forum
Yeah that nome guy is a bitch
jagged pier
And it's necrotic week.
So i won't heal you above 5 stacks as before.
10 u said 10 last time
ionic fern
Yes.
But you get that monk buff.
So deeps.
And i'll even ring the mobs out of sanguine after the inevitable pug DPS stuns them in it.
jagged pier
does sound tempting
ionic fern
blazing condor
im not sure if its โฌ13 worth of fun tho
jagged pier
its not
blazing condor
i wanna do m+ but i know it wont be worth it
i dont raid rn either for that matter so that'd be all i'd do
ionic fern
That's all i do.
blazing condor
which is fair
blazing condor
yup i guess that's what imma do
ionic fern
Then you can come wreck us in m+.
blazing condor
i'm just getting abstinence from tanking
ionic fern
We will do eahc dungeon once
And then be disappointed because we don't have Legion classes.
obsidian girder
Hey, is mikanikos for slyvanas fine or rather pelagos ?
strong forum
Mikan allows you to spear every adds in p2
That's about the extend of the worth of kyrian soulbinds
If you're looking to min max of sylv, NF would be your best bet because for soulshape
obsidian girder
Okay. Thought about let go of past to reduce damage intake
strong forum
You don't pick soulbinds for their defensive properties
Because they don't provide any worthwhile ones
Your survival will depend on your play. If you survive through your play. any further reduction, that isn't a sweat on the healers or your forehead, is wasted if you are making sacrifices elsewhere
crystal iris
wait 233 sack is better than OWS?
jagged pier
yes
crystal iris
Next week is kinda free also, it's Necrotic/Sanguine.
wait is this sarcastic? xD
inland raft
Necrotic os nothing compared to what used to be
Gotta kite occasionally but its pretty free now
lofty widget
in most cases packs will die before necrotic ever becomes a prblem
jagged pier
wait is this sarcastic? xD
no those affixes are really free
crystal iris
i wanna do m+ but i know it wont be worth it
why not worth it? im having a lot of fun learning new classes and pushing my limits
crystal iris
no those affixes are really free
I mean if you pugged all your 20s in week 3 im sure you hop into 18s and they get destroyed
blazing condor
i've done enough pugging trying to push m+ for a while
crystal iris
but for pugging im still a bit terrified of fortified
blazing condor
wow players are just shit lol i cba
it's "spend 6 hours attempting to push rio and depleting 90% of keys and the other 10% you time but it doesnt net you any rio"
crystal iris
i mean if you dont have any fin then dont play..
i dont see it as pushing rio, i just see each key as a chance to improve be it tanking healing or doing more DPS
IO comes with it
game is downright miserable if you run keys just for the IO
blazing condor
thats why i stopped playing lol
jagged pier
I mean if you pugged all your 20s in week 3 im sure you hop into 18s and they ge...
depends on the pugs tbh
blazing condor
crystal iris
i tried running seismic and didnt love it
blazing condor
i dont have much to gain just running keys for the sake of running keys and doing it just to compare dps is kinda eh
who cares really
crystal iris
when running reprisal its like oh cool im revenging so much, but without reprisal i dont have enough rage / procs to revenge all that much
thick slate
M+ is definitely most fun I still have in wow. But I play with 4 friends.
crystal iris
who cares really
I mean thats the game... running keys for the sake of running keys is like saying you dont want to play the game for the sake of playing the game
so then ya id say dont resub haha you dont sound like you really enjoy the core game systems
Ill 100% be logging keys as tank this week to try and improve. tanked my first 20 last week pretty easily but im a wimp who only tanks on tyrannical
and runs scale instead of sack ๐
blazing condor
wow is fun with friends but dont really play with any
lofty widget
going from tyr to fort can feel like your take a lot more dmg but once you get used to fort it's 10x better
blazing condor
i only really have fun when i push rio but yeah im a bit cynical rn
so i'll probably wait
crystal iris
going from tyr to fort can feel like your take a lot more dmg but once you get u...
used to just takin massive amounts of damage haha?
Ive been getting a pretty consistant 80% blocked melee hits now thanks to you guys
crystal iris
im much more tanky than before so ill for sure give it a shot
lofty widget
now the next goal is 85 % 
crystal iris
fair enough
I want that trinket from the 9
and I guess ill go back to kyrian from necro just for the phial
crystal iris
ya i was just messing around with necro last week was really fun
I like the whole "support" role of buffing other DPS
plus all the absorb shield and easy to get into necro keys ๐
crystal iris
Amazing tool for threat and damage
amazing at overcapping me on rage haha
basically have to be at 0 before using it
crystal iris
even with the conduit?
lofty widget
38 with the conduit, 60 if you have LS up as well
crystal iris
with ravager down too youll get quite a bit in the space of that GCD
jagged pier
IP is off the GCD
crystal iris
i knew that was coming
haha
i do that i get a free revenge proc so now im at 100 rage with 12s of SB and 18k worth of IP
ill submit the log and you guys are like hey! how dare you IP
modern brook
ill submit the log and you guys are like hey! how dare you IP
I'll give you my secret to checking logs
modern brook
- i check macro decisions 2) I check melee block % 3) I check rage waste 4) CPM
strong forum
To exactly prevent the overcap
modern brook
after that I look at whether or not any of those resources were used well
in otherwords
making fun of you for using ip is the 5th thing on my priority
strong forum
Good
sick sentinel
i have a 252 something and 249 as well, which is pretty good for me
crystal iris
No fucks given
I do but you guys also say to SS above all else so by the time I do that ya haha
modern brook
I do but you guys also say to SS above all else so by the time I do that ya haha
yeah thats literally when you ip
slam gets reset, and using it would cap you
just ip slam and continue
strong forum
I do but you guys also say to SS above all else so by the time I do that ya haha
Ravager is the one exception
Especially if you're having LS up
crystal iris
ohhh in ravager i forget about SS?
strong forum
If you're in a big pull having ravager up (and probably also spear) + LS (potentially) you spam revenge until you know you won't overcap again
crystal iris
that makes a lot more sense
okok
ya because with SS ravager spear, intervene and the initial charge (2x free reprisals) ive got rage coming out my ears
strong forum
Yup
sick sentinel
thats a problem i run into i feel is LS + rav almost feels like too much rage gene with normal rotation
sick sentinel
i still wouldn't give ravager up for the world unless they thunderclapped it
strong forum
So you generally open with Ravager - charge + avatar - TC (for initial threat) - ss/revenge+SB
crystal iris
Yogi how did keys go after the twitch stream and everyones tips?
strong forum
Into probably an intervene
sick sentinel
the fact that it chases after targets like i think some mage spells do this as well, just makes it soo much better than what it used to be
even if it was parry before
ionic fern
It wasn't a thing before.
Even without the chase it's still better than what it was before.
crystal iris
ill try to record a key
strong forum
Far better
ionic fern
ill try to record a key
Stream.
crystal iris
that too
sick sentinel
i think for AOE's that it makes sense for that "aoe cloud chase" should be a think for those attacks
crystal iris
not the first of the week for sure lol
sick sentinel
like blizzard, or warlock meteor rain thing, they should do ravager slow chase after mobs
ionic fern
No.
crystal iris
i dont thing any of those abilities do that?
ionic fern
They don't and they shouldn't.
crystal iris
judging on the shit I get from mages when I kite out of their blizzard lol
sick sentinel
im sure theres at least 1 other spell that acts like that but
crystal iris
yeah i dont want my stuff moving i want it exactly where i put it
sick sentinel
do the at player macro and you have to physically be at location to do it, do at cursor and it goes on the statue at the top of the ceiling
spear of bastion never would move of course
strong forum
Na, ravager is the only ground spell that follows
agile pumice
Imagine if bladestorm just auto moved you
sick sentinel
i mean, centrifugal force would just mean you'd get shot out in a spiral pattern based on how hard you were spinning
becomes very hard to control movement in real life situation like that
agile pumice
Like those spinners in dos
sick sentinel
how to play a warrior
2 pm son of a bitch
watch i get 252/249 gargoyle heart as one of options bleh lol
crystal iris
i mean, centrifugal force would just mean you'd get shot out in a spiral pattern...
now sure what we are even talking about, but the forces would be the same in every direction so you would stay in place. Like a spinning top
sick sentinel
try it go outside with a baseball bat or heavy tube, piece of wood and try to spin around and stand in same location
gravity says BTFO and you have to move to maintain the spin
sick sentinel
sometimes the games or events are better when more things can unexpectedly go wrong, and not just the same way lol
picture reminds me of being young and we would go to school and the hockey arena would be right beside school
crystal iris
Olympic athlete patrick chang reminds you of the ice rink next to your school? ๐
sick sentinel
well, this was pre-internet, so it was where we would all hang out as kids
crystal iris
im just kidding that does sound fun next to the school
sick sentinel
i'd still remember it if i left, but im not counting on it yet
and i'd find some other game to waste time and money obn
its like, the only place blizzard has to go from here is up,
bobby kotick seems to be resolving itself, which will remove tons of image issues
patent osprey
why does noone in here like kleia @_@
there are so many large pulls on fort, you def would like to have kleia
plush tendon
whats the rationale behind Kleia?
lofty widget
8 sec immunity for necrotic
but im guessing people are too hooked on the cdr of mika to swap away from him
jagged pier
plka speaking like everyone does 26s where the big pulls are needed
patent osprey
if ur in a large pull, the reset alone will instantly put u back to 40+ stacks >.<
patent osprey
the immunity portion of her soulbind is what makes it OP in Necrotic
plush tendon
patent osprey
I dunno :/ I don't think warding people off Kleia is a good thing. Think saying you can play mikanikos if you want and most of the time itll be fine, but Kleia is a very strong option in necrotic for key times
plush tendon
too bad im a arms warrior now not in raid
strong forum
With kleia? Good ass
plush tendon
crystal iris
wait whats this immunity ?
strong forum
Kleia offers 8sec immunity to basically all debuffs once you use phial
crystal iris
ohhhh and necro counts as debuff smart
so i guess wait until you hit 30 stacks pop phial, wait until 30 more stacks stoneform then if the pack still isnt dead time to quit the key?
also is that single potency?
teal swift
Are na servers up yet
patent osprey
NA
somber sky
gonna be pugging my way up on tank io. Think i should do it as kyrian?
or would necroburrito make sense?
jagged pier
anything but venthyr
jagged pier
even then its fine
somber sky
I guess strong exectue and opener ya?
somber sky
i mean like tyrranical week boss damage
jagged pier
not really u dont get much execute time on bosses
somber sky
hmm that's good to know.
jagged pier
its also just a spender u can barely use while the others are a generators and u can use them wheneveer
somber sky
necro leggo with reprisal and AM does sound so sexy though
the "200% more effective" is speculated to buff everything but I am kinda sus about it.
it'll probably be like 200% more dam
(i meant the tier set)
jagged pier
necro will be goto in raid for sure
but kyrian and NF with double leggo is busted for m+
somber sky
hmm that kyrian leggo will give me a lot of control that's for sure if not just the sheer damage fro it
well thanks mr jakey
crystal iris
servers up
wild hemlock
but kyrian and NF with double leggo is busted for m+
natures fury + reprisal will be insanely fun
wild hemlock
holy shit lol
frank hemlock
i mean im not complaining, getting to pick something from that damn chest is a miracle in itself
but god damn after having nothing for like 5 weeks did i really have to get 2 upgrades in one chest lmao
crystal iris
oh i see
jagged pier
Great maintenance they decided to remove Kleias face
its a multi dollar company
crystal iris
Brutal vitality vs sphere / stalwart
crystal iris
yeah thats a given
crystal iris
theres a choice to be wrong
ok next time I will ask specifically for the list haha
Look good? cant imagine we go quad defensives
sick sentinel
I saw the 252 haste crit ring in my box but also haste versa 249 weapon
can't pass on good stat weapon
ionic fern
if ur in a large pull, the reset alone will instantly put u back to 40+ stacks >...
Weakness disgusts me.
jagged pier
he plays paladin now ive heard
ionic fern
Then you realise paladins can reset necrotic even more times so you go Dwarf/Kyrian/kleia Paladin.
strong forum
just bring your friendly neighbourhood WW and Frostmage
and you wont need to reset stacks
jagged pier
isnt this week ez anyways after the necro nerf?
sick sentinel
haven't tried tbh lol, haven't swapped out of necro torghast spec yet
could maybe do menace this week, to get things out of the sanguine
jagged pier
no
sturdy sable
Just back peddle
sick sentinel
bring monk dk druid are also good ideas
some fort routes easier than tyranical weeks, get to boss and it does nothin at all, free win
this is ring i had to pass on for weapon
sturdy sable
Do you have a wep?
sick sentinel
242 same stats
sick sentinel
already grabbed weapon haste versa not too bad, its 249
lime urchin
what are our strongest dps trinkets in m+? (except the tavez one)
strong forum
Phial
lime urchin
phial + ows?
strong forum
OPC can also own quite hard for overall
strong forum
Trinkets alone only contribute 600-700dps overall
Not more
Rest comes from ilvl and good play
I did 1 mists 15 with like 242 ilvl and I only did 8.2k dps cuz i played like shit
With seismic*
tropic gorge
man i dont understand the vault. i opened it last week as prot, and got arms gear. i opened it today as arms, and legit tanking gloves are in there
haste\vers dom socket.
what the hell
blazing condor
tropic gorge
id like to ask someone at blizzard how, exactly does the game determine what gear is selected out of the pool for a spec. and, does spec matter for most gear options, or is spec only to determine 1h\2h weapons or shields
cause i'm starting to think spec selection is only for weapons\shields
jagged pier
<@&257983573498265600>
ionic fern
$pb 857804394186670091
true pawnBOT
Done.
mellow bridge
cause i'm starting to think spec selection is only for weapons\shields
well yes
you can check in the dungeon journal what counts as dps or tank spec
it only matters for weapons and trinkets
ripe fjord
so...
wtf do i even take?
XD
current rings...
I also have this ring but i feel like stats are kinda shitty with 0 vers lol so i just run it on arms warrior...
im so bad at picking vaults for my tank cuse i cant just run a top gear sim lol
strong forum
I'd try to get rid of that 239 ring asap
modern brook
Ring theoretically an upgrade
strong forum
But 252 anime is juicy too
modern brook
Idr the stats on them
median timber
ilvl >>> all
strong forum
Is big dick crit
modern brook
im so bad at picking vaults for my tank cuse i cant just run a top gear sim lol
You're taking exactly 2 items for defensive value, aegis, your shield, and possibly scale
Ilvl >all for the rest
Sim for damage after thay
strong forum
Bro hold up
Why the FUCK aren't you running blood oath ring
That is one of the best rings in the game??
HELLO?
Imagine running a 239 vers mastery ring over a 252 haste crit ring?
Nani?
ripe fjord
yo chill LOL
median timber
there is no chill we are warriors fueld by rage
ripe fjord
You guys arnt being helpful in the slightest rn
median timber
we must slam our sheilds
ripe fjord
right??
median timber
it is good to stress just how big of a fuck up it is tho to equip lower ilvl gear
ripe fjord
fair enough lol
strong forum
Especially when it's a non haste ring
median timber
^^
strong forum
It's just that haste is the only stat you actually care about
ripe fjord
ilvl >stats
yes i get that
median timber
but?
ripe fjord
that fact is true most the time
ripe fjord
It's just that haste is the only stat you actually care about
Makes sense, Ive only been playing warrior for like 6 weeks
Im a mage main haha
strong forum
The socket makes it so they're even
However
It's big haste vs 0 haste
Or to put it into stats, it's 5% haste vs 2% raw dmg reduction
ripe fjord
So picking Anima Field 100% right?
strong forum
Well given that you have better rings, and given that helmet is a Dom socket slot
It's your only choice
ripe fjord
true
strong forum
Depends if your overall dps is good
mellow gorge
6.5k on mists lmao
strong forum
Doubt
strong forum
M8
It's not just putting all rage into revenge
It's pressing all buttons
On CD
For maximum rage gain and efficient use of rage
It's not just "never press other buttons if you can press revenge"
mellow gorge
I know I know
strong forum
That's not how this works
strong forum
Then do better 
I trust
ripe fjord
@strong forum This how we lookin now lol, much better i think
mellow gorge
so it's not like i'm not pressing other buttons
strong forum
Ya this looks better statwise
mellow gorge
but i'm not gonna press TC over Revenge when i have 60+ rage
ripe fjord
sweet
strong forum
but i'm not gonna press TC over Revenge when i have 60+ rage
Why not
mellow gorge
dps loss
strong forum
It's 5 rage gained vs 20 rage spent
Aka, more rage aka more SS resets aka more rage aka more revenges
jagged pier
U should definatly be pressing tc if u are not going to overcap
ripe fjord
Do you run Haste or Vers enchants on the rings?
strong forum
Haste
ripe fjord
k
mellow gorge
Hastey
strong forum
TC can reset SS which can mean 20 more rage for using TC once (technically)
ripe fjord
we VERY Hastey tastey noww
strong forum
Which then means you can use another revenge, which can also reset SS
It all plays together
ripe fjord
ok im done lol, tysm for your help man
mellow gorge
my TC cpm was roughly 6cpm?
just had too much rage during AoE pulls
running NF makes me overcap vq
it is nice on how much rage i get w AA
granted it doesn't deal as much dmg as spear
strong forum
That is true, in that specific case if you're overcapping then yes, you spam revenge
This was my very poorly played run for example
I play very poorly
jagged pier
Mwahi logged our runs yesterday nome
strong forum
That's a 22 min dungeon
mellow gorge
fair
modern brook
Then do better <:seanbee:836829660016803860> I trust
U never said u believed in me :(
mellow gorge
I need to get into the habit of logging
mellow gorge
granted, top DPS being at 7.7k while i was sitting at 6.5k is not bad
mellow gorge
bonegrinder on prot doesn't bode well
jagged pier
Its fine
mellow gorge
it's fine but ehhh
mellow gorge
it's annoying
jagged pier
Yer but i did that again yesterday as kyrian and without bonegrinder
Well 9.9k with rdm equiped that did nothing cauae it was a 15
If i had sack then would have been
mellow gorge
sack?
strong forum
U never said u believed in me :(
You don't have a sub do you
jagged pier
Sack of terror
mellow gorge
the hell is that
strong forum
Tazavesh trinket
strong forum
That's not a thing
mellow gorge
8 boss dungeon*
strong forum
It's a "mega dungeon" because it has so many bosses
The trinkets from there will be quite mandatory for next season
Namely Codex and Sack are gonna be hot wares
sick sentinel
do you have logs or video or can stream?
can help players better than you identify weak points
crystal iris
ill run a few more to get used to the affix
sick sentinel
try to remember that the amount you get hit for by standing in sanguine always does the same i want to say 13% hp, but a trick is it can do more damage than intended if it drops, you move, something else goes down and you go back in
so, you can instantly deleted yourself with those if you are not looking
as for necrotic, its been severely nerfed, bring somebody like a frost mage is the perfect example, who can temporarily mass freeze/cc while you run away for stacks
focus this week for me is try to do NF quest line, and venthyr, make those 2 leggos, unlock for account, maybe raid if i watch fights
mellow bridge
dw myth aint a lot different from that 
sick sentinel
intercept npc was a good time
urban portal
dw myth aint a lot different from that <:yep:703420923625078804>
for myth you need hekili too
sick sentinel
the EP gm i was raiding with had us use loot council crap and angry notes for each boss
spiral warren
tanking in heroic is about following dbm
Donโt expose me like that
mellow bridge
I don't even know what that is but I assume nothing good
crystal iris
Man this is depressing
Just bricked like 4 or 5 15s
First pull of halls triple with lust, everything is fine I drop stacks once I drop stacks twice I leap out kite them to one side go back in for a second get chunked run to the other side come back to the middle like that pack should be fkn dead before lust finishes
3 minute pull
blazing condor
it happens
crystal iris
Idk I feel bad for these peoples keys
This why I only tank tyrannical weeks lol
Iโm not doing anything different
mellow bridge
Hard to say much about it but doesn't sound like your fault if it lives that long tbh
modern brook
ill run a few more to get used to the affix
3000% ur giving back ans using cds too early
But yeah video or logs help alot
teal swift
Just bricked like 4 or 5 15s
At 15 you don't even need to reset stacks as a warrior just save mitigation for later stacks and rely on healer for first half of pull
Make sure to drop combat between pulls
My warrior goes to like 80 stacks before having to reset
sick sentinel
heres a trick i learned forever ago about necrotic, it can be blessing of protectioned (paladin immune on you) however you lose aggro and have to regain it, as well as click the buff off to start attacks again
mighty valley
If you keep leaving you're not providing DPS... on the other hand, in a 15 with lust, the pack shouldn't be living that long with or without you, so idk
sick sentinel
so, when you have too many stacks (40 or more) you call for BOP and you have cancelaura bop macro ready, and then you would do challenging shout, ravager, revenge, thunder clap
to not lose aggro on the current pack and it rips the healer apart
mellow bridge
You get all your aggro back the second bop drops actually
real fossil
heres a trick i learned forever ago about necrotic, it can be blessing of protec...
Or have a despell aura macro to thunderclap
chilly brook
heres a trick i learned forever ago about necrotic, it can be blessing of protec...
Just have a BoP cancel macro
You dont need to worry about regaining aggro
As soon as BoP comes off they go back to you
sick sentinel
sick sentinel
Is that a change from bfa that if you are bop and remove it and you get aggro back
Cuz I swear it didn't feel like that in bfa
My groups either have no idea that necrotic exists, or the healer starts freaking out at around 15-20+stacks when I won't die
slender loom
Whatโs the best leg for port
sick sentinel
Reprisal overall currently
Check pins top right pc slide ride side left to see pins phone
slender loom
K can u get from twisting corridors since upper reaches isnโt up
mighty valley
yeah just reset TC til you get upper reaches
sick sentinel
And when you go to craft it legs because most raw stats, haste first and either versa or crit
slender loom
Doesnt interfere with a dim socket
Dom
So thatโs the only leg I need I am just making sure cause i see a lot of guides say craft like 2 or 3 leg
sick sentinel
Crit rating gives Parry, which resets ss, and is no or less damage takn
mighty valley
reprisal is best for 95% of situations and fine for the rest
slender loom
Nice
mighty valley
unless you just want to pump damage and ignore defense
slender loom
I never ignore def lol ๐
sick sentinel
Just don't get hit 4 head
You don't need extra points into hp if you don't take dmg
Yeah, and then leech to self heal auto attack dmg so healer can dps too
ripe fjord
@strong forum Do you think Kleia is worth playing for this week of m+? What soulbinds you running for kyrian atm?
I was thinking maybe to run something like this, not sure if its worth to run it tho.
median timber
Why not mikanos
slender loom
Hey question can I actually get reprisal from skoldus balls says gherud the unchain drops it
Halls i meant lol
pallid isle
What's a solid target for vers stat m+ / raid (starting Mythic prog)? I'm ~246 ilvl, reprisal on legs. OWS and H nine trinket (have H guardian matrix as well)
jagged pier
What's a solid target for vers stat m+ / raid (starting Mythic prog)? I'm ~246 i...
0%
U do not need vers
ionic fern
<@!192743144276623360> Do you think Kleia is worth playing for this week of m+? ...
You don't NEED Kleia on Necrotic weeks but you CAN play her.
The Immunity is a nice QoL.
For binds probably something like this:
woven bear
Hmm my two mythic slots this week give me a devouring cold 259 or a aegis 252 ;D not sure what to pick. I already have a 252 gazepiercer and a 239 aegis, but I don't use it usually. We only do sylv progress right now, so I guess an aegis might be better there?
woven bear
only in m+, not in raid
ionic fern
I would take Aegis.
jagged pier
best wep vs best trinket
ionic fern
Also, Aegis is good on Sylvanas.
ionic plank
gz :D
ionic fern
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strong forum
That'll happen when the jailer reshapes reality
strong forum
He's a good guy
blazing condor
we're the virus
jagged pier
i dont use the portals mwahi just summons me
blazing condor
the true play is to only use portals to do everything else but m+ (whatever that'd be)
so you dont have to summon
jagged pier
but doing that puts it on an 8 hour cd
blazing condor
yeah well good thing there's only about one thing to do in wow every 8 hours
thats not m+ or raid
strong forum
Yeah I log real good
blazing condor
no ice
torpid saffron
If running Kleia would you guys consider running Menace talent ?
I know it's a not so great talent, but as a prot warr considering we have no way of getting mobs out of sanguine other than using phial with Mikanikos to push them..
Also considering pugs.. ๐
blazing condor
i havent felt the need to get another knockback
menace is kinda wonky to use
try it and see if you like it, that row doesnt really matter much
but you shouldn't need it
torpid saffron
I haven't tried to see how Necrotic feels now that they nerfed it
I've always felt like we don't need Kleia and that row for getting Immunity to Curse/Poison/Disease/Bleed
But i was wondering if in higher keys do things change
blazing condor
not needed at all
just QoL like mwahi said
necrotic isn't a hard affix per se
but it just makes it a bit smoother
torpid saffron
Ok, thanks!
blazing condor
personally i run Kleia on necrotic cus its nice to use
and doing higher keys felt fine
this was pre-nerf tho so idk if its worth
mellow gorge
are these stats good lookin since i have dom socket pieces on?
jagged pier
is that highest ilvl stuff?
jagged pier
which ever is higher ilvl
jagged pier
well yer thats in account dom socket > ilvl> haste
mellow gorge
hmm I see
i'll have to get a feel out of it tbf
see if dom sockets in dungeons are worth running over
jagged pier
its in the pins
lime urchin
Oh I may need to get dem dom sockets then ๐ฎ
ionic fern
DPS'ers who take knockup power this week should be banned.
jagged pier
vocal geode
personally i run Kleia on necrotic cus its nice to use
is it worth trading away mike dmg for the immunity
kinda tempting to try it though
strong forum
It's a huge qol
mellow gorge
laughs in dwarfism
sick sentinel
i can probably do just fine with sob and bounding, regular k potion
jagged pier
@ionic fern how are the keys going today?
ionic fern
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median timber
i think i might do keys on my baer today
sick sentinel
well, if i ever complete story for venthyr and nf, i can start other toons
trying to go for remaining big legendaries as well
sick sentinel
DPS'ers who take knockup power this week should be banned.
prot warriors who take storm bolt this week, should be banned is what you mean, right?
smoky wave
Love storm bolt this week. It's a lovely way to stop something that's about to die as you're kiting so nothing else gets clipped by its sanguine.
strong forum
I love it when I start to pre-kite out of sanguine
But the dps then don't kill the lowest hp mob
So I'm just moving for no reason and only when I stop again it dies and someone uses their cc again cock
ionic plank
classic
sick sentinel
i'm also considering to pretend to be druid with typhoon from menace cuz bounding is meh, and tc is meh as well probably won't
yeet it out of sanguine
charged additive on mik works too, small one time bump outwards
lime urchin
Yall spearing oโ bastion into sanguine too?
jagged pier
i try not too
sick sentinel
what if casting storm bolt instantly reset the cooldown of thunderclap?
modern brook
U would get a whole extra tclap every 45s
sick sentinel
it says its storm bolt, i can see the bolt part, but the storm part have harder time imagining
strong forum
Yall spearing oโ bastion into sanguine too?
Yes
Erga Mwahi and Jakey know a thing or 2 about that
Triple kyrian warrior in DoS Ardenweald during sanguine necrotic
Oh yeah.
modern brook
it says its storm bolt, i can see the bolt part, but the storm part have harder ...
I think it's just ripped from mk in wc3
lime urchin
Good good
inland raft
Yall spearing oโ bastion into sanguine too?
Isnt that how your supposed to deal with it? And then once that goes away leap across and kite the mobs through the sanguine again
sick sentinel
nonono
you sanguinate, leaving a caster alive in it, and then you storm bolt the caster
that way he's full health and ready to fight you again
ionic plank
using sanguine to heal the flesh crafters in necrotic so you can use their cleavers on multiple packs
distant crystal
I did a key yesterday where the top healer overall was Sanguine Ichor
still timed it tho!
sick sentinel
if healer is freaking the fuck out about 15 stacks just ignore till whatever you know your safe with
inland raft
Healers exist to be abused, change my mind
median timber
i'm also considering to pretend to be druid with typhoon from menace cuz boundin...
Dont forget the ursocs fury remembered lego bypasses necro and its the default lego for m+ every week
This week's afixs dont exist for baer
crystal iris
how come ursocs bybasses necro but IP / Scale doesnt
sick sentinel
i haven't tried new necrotic and sanguine but it won't bother me too much
median timber
Because you see
brittle owl
because playing guardian is a crutch
sick sentinel
only plan to do 1-4 keys this week tops
median timber
Ufr is "get x sheild for y% of thrash dmg"
Its thrash dmg causing the sheild and isn't flagged for necro
brittle owl
first avenger works the same way and is affected by necro
median timber
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inland raft
My understanding is shield from AS for protpal is also not affected though obviously isnt nearly as strong ad bear shield
median timber
It is legit the fact that ufr isn't specificly flagged for necro but 1st avenger is
median timber
They need to flag it specificly for sheild directly from dmg
And they haven't for ufr
strong forum
Fuck you
median timber
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strong forum
That's why
median timber
But next xpac is wow 2.0
median timber
Or more specificly cata 2.0
strong forum
Wow: boring ape gang
median timber
NFTS CAN GO FUCKING DOE
brittle owl
feature : nft mounts
inland raft
Remember when they said 10.0 was gonna be the great m+ overhaul
brittle owl
inland raft
And all we got was some minor tweaks and shitty affixes
brittle owl
how to trigger people on the internet with 3 letters
mellow bridge
how come ursocs bybasses necro but IP / Scale doesnt
cuz UFR shield size depends on the amount of damage dealt
and for w/e reason those shields bypass necrotic
first avenger from paladin does the same
crystal iris
someone just said first avenger goes not bypass
strong forum
Oh
brittle owl
T
sick sentinel
RRDUCTION
brittle owl
feckin yermans
strong forum
Seeing a singular N on a single line is a scary thing
brittle owl
n||o it isn't||
strong forum
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jagged pier
didnt someone just buy a NFT yachet for 650,000 or somthing?
strong forum
Someone bought an nft jacket for like 180k I think
strong forum
That's beyond stupid holy fuck
brittle owl
hats off to the seller
y'all malding over the acquisition when there's dudes making serious bank
brittle owl
consumers as a whole are stupid
coming from retail management experience, most people are stupid about how they spend their money
99.9%
inland raft
But at least most of them dont still play wow
brittle owl
inland raft
strong forum
brittle owl
to prove my point, 2 examples
- black friday
- yearly phone releases
third example
yearly sports games
inland raft
Hey now, i need the newest and most powerful device to scroll reddit and discord
brittle owl
these work just by virtue of a retarded customer base
jagged pier
black fridays my favourite sells for 599.99 day before
black friday 599.99 down from 799.99
next day 599.99
KEKW
strong forum
The phone thing for me is just a superiority complex thing
brittle owl
it's the same behaviour
strong forum
But the vanity of it is fading
strong forum
Cuz im slowly growing up into a range were people aren't broke ni๐ ฑ๏ธ๐ ฑ๏ธas
brittle owl
becaus people dumb
strong forum
2 years ago we celebrated making 1000 systems
Then we made 1200 last year and nobody bat a fucking eye
jagged pier
we had record sales these past 2 years
isnt that due to the fact that no one is actually spending money these last 2 years so much more vanity buying
strong forum
And 70% of that is intel/apple/samsung/AMD and so on
brittle owl
isnt that due to the fact that no one is actually spending money these last 2 ye...
100%, which is dumb
people have money left over because they don't go out so they actively find avenues to spend
which makes my brain ache but hey, profit
strong forum
I like spending money
wild hemlock
1. black friday
2. yearly phone releases
i do wana snag the samsung flip phone to play OSRS on lmaooo
strong forum
:peeposit:
brittle owl
it's one of the reasons most people don't evolve past the social class they're in
shit spending habits
poor personal finance
inland raft
Pandemic has been nice to me ive more then tripled my portfolio
mellow bridge
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/someone-bought-a-dollar650000-nft-yacht-for-a-game-th...
tbh whenever I read stuff like that
I just automatically assume it's money laundering lmao
inland raft
Ofc
strong forum
Has to be
distant crystal
it's pretty rampant in the fine art market
makes sense to do it for NFTs
saves you some money on paint and canvas
inland raft
Anything where value is subjective is ripe for laundering
strong forum
Wish I had enough to launder money
distant crystal
see first you get some baking soda
distant crystal
i saw some random factoids
yesterday, that the average house sold for 2.2 years average salary in the early 20th century
now it's like 9x or something
but milk is a lot cheaper now so we got that going for us
inland raft
just get out there and sweep some floors and move up in the company, stop being lazy
brittle owl
grant cardone might be a meme but his statement that house ownership is a ploy made by banks to loan money fits the picture in a very scary way
but to be real for a second
brittle owl
yesterday, that the average house sold for 2.2 years average salary in the early...
early 20th century if you left the city or village you were born in you were prob some form of nobility or middle upper class
nowadays you can legit make money from your couch
people usually don't take this into account
distant crystal
what if i just borrow a park bench
marsh plover
it doesn't bypass necrotic since bfa iirc
First Avenger definitely works like UFR. It's based on damage and necrotic doesn't reduce it.
crystal iris
this is low for a 15 eh? I dont know what avg 15 dps should be pulling
packs lived forever. Mists 15
plush tendon
depends
plush tendon
sometimes, overall can look better or worse depending on how fast things die
crystal iris
and yes im running HR, happy I did too. let me focus on what was going on a bit more. When im more comfortable ill swap back to AM
crystal iris
forgot to mention we wiped really badly
like i stunned, interrupted and feared the healers in the maze
but they got 3 casts off
so they full healed and the NF forgot to get the nut
so that was like an easy 5 minute wipe and walk back from the start
then the priest died at the last bit and we had to wait forever for him to run back
so ya i wasa trying to use it on CD. sometimes id hold for like 10s if i needed it to kite
and Kleia so no CDr
was not a smooth key, but i felt a bit more tanky. 91% blocked hits
Better be with HR
jagged pier
well kelia fucking sucks for damage, and i only used phial 3 times in the dungeon seems like a waste
plush tendon
well kelia fucking sucks for damage, and i only used phial 3 times in the dungeo...
Necrotic nerfs probably help to
waxen orbit
well kelia fucking sucks for damage, and i only used phial 3 times in the dungeo...
What level key is this that you punished yourself with Kleia
cinder nova
well kelia fucking sucks for damage, and i only used phial 3 times in the dungeo...
Only a waste if you didn't time from damage. Otherwise, if using those three saved pulls... could've been worth it, just a more defensive playstyle.
sick sentinel
only one dps spec despite having only 2 specs
stil almost beat by tank
fringe folio
Do you guys use some macro or so for spell reflect ? My reflects get interrupted by dps often
crystal iris
honestly just be grateful theyre kicking something
#showtooltip
/cast Spell Reflection
/say Don't kick my Spell Reflect
strong forum
Thats not a good macro
jagged pier
pugs inturpt?
strong forum
Cuz it yells that even if you can't use spell reflect
cinder nova
Better to make a WA for it
strong forum
So use a WA instead
cinder nova
Macro is useless
crystal iris
dont press if you cant use 
crystal iris
i have an addon thats called RSA spell announcer I use that
crystal iris
you can program what it says, I use for rallying cry too
sick sentinel
if its banner you have to do a weak aura that tells when the CD for banner finishes
so correct players can attempt to gather for buff collect
crystal iris
honestly though unless youre at 20+ level, ppl dont know wtf spell reflect is
*usually
strong forum
Even then they don't
Trust
People kicking spell reflect is like the 1 thing they succeed at
crystal iris
I usually use it on uninterruptable stuff, or when I start kiting
because you better believe if i start running away from the dogs in HoA no one is paying attention to the caster at the back
fringe folio
Alright I will look into that WA. Thanks! ๐
cinder nova
I can just give you one.
fringe folio
Sure if you have one , thx
sick sentinel