Im enjoying it
#protection
sick sentinel
as opposed to execute say, even for prot, it shouldn't really do a ton of damage but it uses all your rage
crystal iris
usually i have all the rage at start of pull not finish
Healer whispered me asking to come to more runs 🙂
sick sentinel
this was the purpose of the 3 tab guy for necro with carvers eye and execute conduit
crystal iris
i rarely have enough rage to dump into more than 2 executes
sick sentinel
so, for TOP, first and last boss its arguable u could use lust and necro banner when first of 3 goes to execute range
cuz, p3 final top is tough too, and then the idea is you just kinda use banner whenever but prefer execute-ish ranges hp for trash
lofty widget
i rarely have enough rage to dump into more than 2 executes
pair LS with ravager and youll have rage for days to execute
crystal iris
I like it. I forget about last stand a lot
sick sentinel
press LS with ava is a good move on pull right after rav>charge>ss>demo yeah?
crystal iris
I think im pretty happy with the fact that the healer only had to do 5k HPS and only 26% of heals on me. I usually see tanks needing 30-35% healing. Healed himself more than he had to heal me
sick sentinel
or after rav but before charge?
my HPS hovers around 2k, should be like, i dunno, closer to 3k like u with proper rotation and mechanics
lofty widget
ill usually LS after i place rav, with avatar and spear most of that extra rage would be wasted anyway
hps is a pretty bad metric tbh
crystal iris
Yeah but % healing on each player is a betterish metric no?
sick sentinel
yeah, true, it counts that giga bubble from m+ torgy powers as a heal lmao
crystal iris
On my healer if I have the tank on IV healing the whole run at the end ill notice that 38% of all my heals went to them
but in a run where i dont heal the tank as much i will have more healing done on myself and 25-30% on the tank
sick sentinel
i find my self often picking the power that gives crit, because relatively speaking i have low crit % for what is meta for us or ocassionally the one that gives quasi-avoidance to group if i know there is little trash to final
but stoneward is just way too good to not take. -15% mdmg just can't compete, same with drippy
next time we have spiteful with the ghosts someone try taking 5th skull or i might try it too.
crystal iris
my HPS hovers around 2k, should be like, i dunno, closer to 3k like u with prope...
My healing usually hovers around 2-2.5k
sick sentinel
how much is your dps in said keys
i'm pressing some more buttons and had 5.6k last dungeon, has been as low as like 3k lol
crystal iris
Yeah it’s between 5-6k usually. Once I get more comfortable in higher keys I hope to be able to get it up a bit. Also as necro my Dps will be lower than if I was kyrian
I like emeni more than bone smith I think.
sick sentinel
when i was doing bonesmith i was also taking resourceful so that i could place in vetran and later get the execute one too, as well as a defensive through lowered FC
sick sentinel
spiral warren
Time it yogi you got this
sick sentinel
definitely have to look for group willing to attempt to complete if it goes to shit
spiral warren
Top is pretty straightforward should be pretty smooth
modern brook
ip efficiency <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<rage effiicencty
if using ip at max ip shield will keep you from rage capping you ip
modern brook
but in a run where i dont heal the tank as much i will have more healing done on...
Its not a great metric but it sure is better than hPS
warriors need more haeling by virtue of not being the other tanks
thick slate
What are the thoughts on the new set bonuses? We’re gonna become clap bots again?
sick sentinel
the part where the 2set buff that stacks to 8 does nothing is ????? as in like, wat?
thick slate
Yea that looks like we have been cheated 🤣
thick slate
Hope it’s just a missing description. But I can already feel unstoppable force and anger management coming back.
sick sentinel
i am already picking am
thick slate
I’m running hr, but I was thinking to try.
sick sentinel
it's currently the play for meta keys because you get more damage through avatar reduction and better damage reduction than HR overall because SW better for magic
yes, you don't need HR in keys, it is complete overkill unless you run high lvl keys more than 22's say
thick slate
We don’t really run a very meta comp, but I’ll give it a try. I just don’t want to sacrifice ravager. One less button feels bad honestly
Also no we’re only at 19-20 now
sick sentinel
pretty sure you don't drop ravager for itf in keys if thats what your thinking
hr and am is last row, rav is 2nd last row
thick slate
So it’s still isn’t worth to go unstoppable even if you get more avatars?
sick sentinel
no, not at all, ravage is better
ionic fern
Hope it’s just a missing description. But I can already feel unstoppable force a...
AM is already the play.
thick slate
Hmm. That sounds good then!
mighty valley
the part where the 2set buff that stacks to 8 does nothing is ????? as in like,...
it would be really awkward if the stacks gave us anything because we wouldn't want to spend them
they're just building up to the huge SS
sick sentinel
it could be an AOE explosion for 1500 damage say within 5 yards each time it triggers at 50-90% chance to go off, stat buff could be short time after proc occurs, 3 seconds. could be heal, dmg buff
mighty valley
you're right, it could be something enormously overpowered
the exciting part is building up to a big hit - they could tune it with more passive buff stuff if they want but that would take away power budget from the SS buff
green python
Hey guys, how much haste should be targeted by default to tank in mythic +?
crystal iris
target? 20+ ?
green python
Okay thanks 🙂
and for level 45 talents, "into the fray" & "ravager" seems to be viable, how do you make the choice? :p
mighty valley
Np! Good luck
sick sentinel
40% from stats is where you want to stop
this counts from items and potions anything that is a stat haste, after 30% and 40% you take 10% and 20% less from haste, 1050 and 1200 for 30% and 40%
green python
@mighty valley @crystal iris @sick sentinel Thank you for the clarification! 🙂
sick sentinel
do note that things like blood lust, or that say % haste, do not count towards tihs
green python
do note that things like blood lust, or that say % haste, do not count towards t...
Okay because it's "flat stat" (that the good name?) and not a number of haste like we can find on a weapon for example ?
crystal iris
Okay because it's "flat stat" (that the good name?) and not a number of haste li...
we mean when you press v to see your character, the number of haste that you see
when you are not in combat
sick sentinel
because its reading the number on your haste stat to determine tax, but blood lust doesn't matter it won't tax your for being lusted
because it doesn't increase haste by a number, just a %
these guys get close to 40% haste through good gear and trinkets from current raid, OWS, glory, and alternatively, AFE from spires keys to bridge the gap.
crystal iris
anyone have a way I can announce when my necro banner is up. I use RSA addon and it doesnt show cov abilities?
sick sentinel
i'd just do WA have it post a chat message, the owner has a feedback section in options could send them a DM, i know they have updated it in the past
ionic fern
anyone have a way I can announce when my necro banner is up. I use RSA addon and...
Just.,,/cast Abiltyname /say Abilityname is up ?
sick sentinel
no, because then everytime its hit off cd it spams hell out of chat and gets annoying
ionic fern
Why would you hit it off CD?
sick sentinel
accident, but people may confuse you actually having the banner up or not because they saw the message in chat and burn a CD, this is the issue he is trying to avoid
ionic fern
? 😂
sick sentinel
true enough, it would be to reduce future confusion
crystal iris
I hadnt thought of the macro thanks!
crystal iris
smart
chilly brook
Does anyone have a WA for reflecting Soul Split in MOTS?
remote orchid
Its okay i know i wasnt the best but the 245 ilvl tank was pulling was pulling like 10-15 mobs for a group of 230 ilvl dps and heals, with no voice communication. So i was expecting to fail. Im just happy i did it. Highest kry ive ever done.
Yeah it is but those people are coordinated and geared, we were all low 230ish ilvl maybe a oittle lower besides the tank. I get people can do it but not us when the tank is pulling 10-15 mobs and expecting it to go well with no communication or warning
urban portal
Not to be rude but people were doing 15-18s with 226 gear so that's definitely not the isdue
jagged pier
^^
mighty valley
With gear like that the tank can do single group pulls on a straightforward route and time it with room to spare
urban portal
For sure
A lot of 15 is missed cuz people are too ambitious
But it's not just 1 particular person
blazing condor
blazing condor
thanku
inland raft
And honestly dont lose all that much damage either
sick sentinel
Don't do a yogi and try to double pull trash + lts in m+ even if your are running an 11 for skyhold discord
I did that twice in top 11 the other day
inland raft
Trash on lts is dependent on which lt and what trash but it generally isnt a problem but also isn’t necessary at lower keys
sick sentinel
it was the LT trash just inside abomb wing and teleport wing
only 11 tyranical but tab throwed the green guy and not sure about the golem, but got him too,
sick sentinel
this is top abomb wing where the LT is, how do i make sure i don't get the abomb always in future runs if i have to go get lt
modern brook
Throw weapon and back up
teal swift
Not to be rude but people were doing 15-18s with 226 gear so that's definitely n...
WHat did last season cap at?
sick sentinel
right, well, how do i know what position for the golem is most safe
like, at which part of patrol do i start to move in the room
i'm planning out a 16top in my bags which would be biggest key i've done so far so i would like to prepare for anything to go wrong.
wild sandal
is show of force conduit good? or i stick with the execute one
sick sentinel
show of force is not picked currently generally speaking, because TC damage is simply no longer good
lofty widget
i'm planning out a 16top in my bags which would be biggest key i've done so far ...
i usually wait for him to be at the far end of his patrol, so the hexagon in your pic. you can probably pull him earlier but why risk it
sick sentinel
when i did the 14 pf some monk whispered me saying "i will destroy adds", he sounded confident so i bring him and he did pretty okay, we 2 chest
blazing condor
tormentors dont pull other mobs so just make sure you can taunt/HT the tormentor and not aggro anything else then back it up
broken stratus
Do you still have a chance to block attack even if you don’t have shield block up?
sick sentinel
depends on your mastery stat, which generally isn't good to put points into actively
you want points into haste and crit, or possibly versa, for raids
sick sentinel
hard to go wrong with haste versa
lime urchin
But critttttt 📈
sick sentinel
yeee
im tryin to get my crit up
i would be happy to have close to 20% crit and 30 some haste
nothing wrong with versa haste at all though, probably good for arms/fury, or raiding or pvp
ionic fern
<:catman:769917539835969587>
👋
novel temple
I sort of wish abilities that crit gave extra rage like they did back in mop
hollow hare
what is the best lego for M+?
strong forum
reprisal
strong forum
????
lofty widget
must be trolls
hollow hare
what i was thinking
strong forum
you only play shield wall leggo on sylvanas mythic
and guardian if you plan on soloing every tank combo
thats it.
hollow hare
it was a pally i think
that told me... but i told them that i was using the right lego
teal swift
i'm planning out a 16top in my bags which would be biggest key i've done so far ...
What, just run at it
ToP is easiest key
You pretty much can't overpull
It's pack by pack, and you can time it with plenty of room to spare with any reasonable route
Try to prioritize getting ark + varoth asap
Ezpz time
chilly brook
it was a pally i think
Tell him hes an idiot
lime urchin
I wouldnt know how to respond if someone would utter such foolisness
something like that probably
regarding ToP, there is a mistake in the dungeon journal there
it reads that a 2h weapon drops there
but it doesnt
IT DOESNT
patent osprey
lime urchin
urban portal
right, well, how do i know what position for the golem is most safe
Top is a linear dungeon
Just hold w
You don't actually have to skip a single pack
You technically should skip one but who cares
inland raft
On a 16 hold w dont backtrack for lts or anything youll be fine
sturdy sable
At this point you could probably hold W and time it sub 20
So long as everyone has some idea of whats going on
modern brook
that told me... but i told them that i was using the right lego
Yeah but are you using the right leggo
Equipping reprisals is one thing
Actually using it is another
sick sentinel
16 top was on time, and it turned into 17 dos
well, that 17 is completed, no timer lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSqTa9IADHk spear of bastion
hollow hare
Yeah but are you _using_ the right leggo
Yes I'm 110% sure I'm using the lego properly
blazing condor
Then the guy is a sussy dumb dumb
uneven river
starting mythic sylv prog tonight anything worth knowing thats not obvious ?
tardy sequoia
is there a way to regain aggro on a pull where ravager/spear/avatar is on cooldown?
spamming revenge and thunder clap is not enough
maybe I should not cast all my damage CDs on a single pull but keep them for more pulls?
pallid musk
I would go Represial with charge->revenge->SB->intervene->Revenge
To make sure have high SB uptime
jagged pier
spamming revenge and thunder clap is not enough
u really should be having any aggro issues at all 1 revenge is literally enough to keep aggro
so u number 1 probably arent spamming revenge or TC
and number 2 probably not hitting the mobs with revenge
unkempt palm
is there a way to regain aggro on a pull where ravager/spear/avatar is on cooldo...
If this is actually true, don’t forget you have challenging shout an aoe taunt on a 3 min CD
rotund thicket
hey, is there a way to place down the conqueres banner? or how do you make sure it buffs the right person?
mellow gorge
stand close to em
rotund thicket
well, does that mean my boomis have to stay in melee to get the buff? and the other meles have to go away from me? 😂
mellow gorge
no no
pop it close to em
they get buff
you move out
they don't have to stay within range
afaik
rotund thicket
so it stays on them?
mellow gorge
yes
rotund thicket
well, thats okay i guess? ty
mellow gorge
yw yw
brittle owl
nerzhul 🤔
plush tendon
STUCK on mythic nezhul
getting a good phase can help tremendously; good time on a prog kill would be to phase after a suffering into balls (just hold DPS for timing if you want). After phasing use personals, big healer CDs, rally, then its lust, do one set of dispels (assuming double dispel strat) and knock your raid into chest armor and wait until that knockback happens.
After that, its pretty much free as long as you have your DPS alive and they correctly used all their CDs in P3
lilac bloom
YAH we got him to 28%
then alot of ppl were dying b4 that
mainly due to p3 that dark thing on the floor and the one that does knock back
and melovelance at the same time
plush tendon
Without looking at a log, its hard to tell
lilac bloom
but i see a few ppl keep running through me during suffering and melovelance
yah i have to log it next time
plush tendon
but I can say this: do your double dispell ASAP and then set up in front of the chest. Dont worry if shit is dropping where the raid is stacked as long as the chest will time out soon (since youll be knocked out of it)
Also, do you have people assigned to throwing balls off?
strong forum
in theory necro
mellow gorge
is niya good by chance?
since i'd run dreamweaver but dreampod is kinda
kinda detrimental
strong forum
Niya is the soulbind to run in ST raid encounters
mellow gorge
alrighty
mellow gorge
ye. gonna try niya this week
sick sentinel
i got stuck on the bridge quest for venthyr and said fuck this go do keys
would be better push week if i played better, did manage to time 16 top though, complete poor 17 follow up key
rotund thicket
if i play necro for my 2 boomis, is it worth to play without glory? @ mythic sylvi
chilly brook
if i play necro for my 2 boomis, is it worth to play without glory? @ mythic syl...
If you're going to play necro
Just full send
Tbh glory or nothing
rotund thicket
was thinking about reprisal
chilly brook
The point of playing necro is to just full send into buffing the group
rotund thicket
kk, is there a weakaura like the PI one? so the boomis can call for the banner?
plush tendon
kk, is there a weakaura like the PI one? so the boomis can call for the banner?
that would be cool
chilly brook
Idk if there is, I wouldn't make a change like this for prog though
If you weren't progging with it probably not worth changing now
plush tendon
tru, just in general
plush tendon
very gross
but I got 3 boomies on my raid team now
3 boomies and 3 fire mages : ^)
chilly brook
I've been considering making a WA that I can supply DPS to let them know when my banner is coming up so I can watch them fight for the buff
sick sentinel
are there any melee specs that use mastery for cleave dmg?
sick sentinel
is that frost or unholy dk, and common spec for them?
chilly brook
Also sin rogue
sick sentinel
yeah, rogues are nice
chilly brook
Monk
Just a flat damage buff for monk
Maybe feral? But I haven't seen one of those in ages
sick sentinel
i like inviting dps monks, rogues, hunter and paladins, or dk warlock
chilly brook
Mastery should be decent for paladin
urban portal
are there any melee specs that use mastery for cleave dmg?
Almost every melee spec uses mastery in cleave
urban portal
are there any melee specs that use mastery for cleave dmg?
Almost every melee spec uses mastery in cleave
Except outlaw
Don't invite people based on how good mastery is for them
Just invite based on how good the player/class is
sick sentinel
no, carries lol
by people with gear and io
only thing i spend gold on is flasks and 1hr consumes
mellow bridge
monk doesnt even care about mastery in aoe anymore if theyre necro
it's so dumb lmao
fringe folio
Do any of you also play brewmaster ? I am doubting a bit which tank to play. Anyone that plays both ?
Mainly wondering about (I) playstyle difficulty difference and (2) damage output wise (mainly m+)
blazing condor
i dabbled just a little so my opinion isn't of much value
brewmaster was fun and would deal pretty good damage
a lot of buttons to press
and playstyle centers a lot around handling brews and absorb + stagger
but i liked it
late rampart
Brew definitely has higher dmg than warrior. Brew tankiness is just okay. Good enough to get the job done, but I wouldn’t put it above prot warrior.
Prot warrior with reprisal takes the least melee damage. And just like prot warrior can be, brew monk I feel I struggle against bleeds/magic damage. At least with warrior I feel ai have better tools to handle having shieldwall, spell reflect, and demo shout.
Ultimately both tanks are perfectly good, and I find both very fun. (Probably my 2 favorites to play personally of playing all 6 tanks in m+). Tank balance is extremely close right now when you compare to any other point in the game. Play whichever of the 2 you find to be more fun/engaging 🙂
Ah and I guess I missed your playstyle difficulty difference. I really wouldn’t say either is particularly tougher than the other. Brewmaster playstyle will be an adjustment if you have no experience with it/ have only played prot warrior. Guess I would say all tanks pretty much fall into a category of easy to pickup, difficult to master. So it’s up to you how difficult a tank like brewmaster would be. If you put in the time to learn and practice it, you can become great a brew just like any other tank.
rugged gyro
I wouldnt say really close, bear legendary needs toned down. God mode every 3 minutes is kind of far beyond what other tanks are capable of
But prot warrior is really solid, i love playing mine more than most other tanks
late rampart
True. I should add my playstyle is like 15-20 keys and doing packs of reasonable size at a time. Pushing to the top of keys, and doing incarn style bear pulls don’t really apply to me.
But yes, incarn bear can accomplish something no other tanks can match currently.
rugged gyro
I was just saying if i could shield wall, and pull half a dungeon and live for 30 seconds without having my HP bar drop. That would be balance
lol
fringe folio
Thanks for the info all. Did help 🙂
rugged gyro
The only thing i wish they would change it make revenge cost no rage, but have the shield slam proc, just reset a cooldown.
If they did that, i wouldnt play any other tank
mellow bridge
honestly I wouldnt mind if every tank had a godmode ability
make us strong again
lofty widget
is that what vengeance was?
mellow bridge
vengenace made you deal big dam if you took big dam
late rampart
We need vengeance to come back with a vengeance. Fun for everyone.
chilly brook
Ultimately both tanks are perfectly good, and I find both very fun. (Probably my...
Monk really only has higher damage if you're abusing the fuck out of Dave
late rampart
Yea you can pump your damage from dave even higher by being degenerate. But under normal circumstances with normal dave use, still more damage. And obviously brew monk’s damage from dave will scale up with key level as you take more and more damage.
late rampart
Simply not true… prot warrior damage is not bad by any means. But brewmaster does more damage. Just check warcraftlogs.com if you are unconvinced.
chilly brook
Also I think monk survivability is pretty fuckin solid tbh
chilly brook
Simply not true… prot warrior damage is not bad by any means. But brewmaster doe...
Key logs are dubious at best
Show me the brewmasters doing 13k at the 3nd of a key
urban portal
Show me warriors doing 13k at the end of a key
lofty widget
didnt kungen pull 14k?
chilly brook
I think so
late rampart
Guessing you are talking about seismic reverb? Strong legendary that does big dam in aoe. But more practically you are going to be running reprisal to survive. And loses out in a tyrannical week situation versus a fortified.
chilly brook
Trash damage isn't suddenly devalued on tyran
late rampart
True. But trash dies faster leading to less damage from the legendary. And boss fights take longer leading to less damage from the legendary.
strong forum
In lower keys pwar defo does alot more dmg than brew
But in high keys monk does more dmg pwar
But that will prolly change in 9.2 cuz monks get legit 0 dmg from set or legendaries
late rampart
Yup. I didn’t realize he was refering to prot war in a low key using seismic.
strong forum
Monk generally does the most m+ dmg right now in actual keys
By like 1k more on average over other tanks
late rampart
Monks definitely losers on tier set at first glance. Could change, but not holding my breath. 😆
mellow bridge
if nothing changes, yea
chilly brook
Monk generally does the most m+ dmg right now in actual keys
Yes but that again just comes down to abusing the fuck out of Dave
late rampart
How is using an ability in your spellbook abuse?
chilly brook
Using the ability itself isn't
But parsing and generally doing damage comes down to taking huge amounts of damage inside your dave window
late rampart
You don’t have to intentionally take extra damage in a high key, the damage comes to you.
chilly brook
Your damage outside of it isn't bad
late rampart
In a high key you naturally take huge amounts of damage. So it isn’t an abuse of any sort…
chilly brook
I'm aware the damage comes to you
strong forum
I think the goal of 27+ keys is not to get the most overall dps as a tank
And I'm talking 27+
In those levels monks do the most dmg
chilly brook
What I am saying is that Dave is a huge portion of the damage you deal if you're going for damage
And it's kinda a weird thing to inherently want to take more damage to deal more damage
late rampart
By your argument I could argue that revenge is a huge portion of your damage when you use seismic. So what? Why does it matter?
chilly brook
They both function quite differently?
I stopped playing my monk as soon as I realized I would need to do stupid stuff in raid to actually parse
late rampart
If you’re saying you don’t like how dave CD works, meaning more damage leading to more purified damage leading to more stomp damage? Sure, don’t disagree. But doesn’t invalidate brew monks, or make Nom wrong.
chilly brook
I didn't say he was wrong
I just said it goes back to abusing the ever living fuck out of Dave
late rampart
But it’s basically a separate discussion from if monks do the most damage.
mellow bridge
not like dave abuse really matters in raid parses unless youre going for 99+ or smth like that
(unless the parse meta suddenly really shifted from nathria to now which is when i played brm)
chilly brook
Kekw
Not saying it's a perfect analysis between the three
But you're seeing the difference between an 83, 94 and 100
In terms of making up the dps difference it's literally basically dave on the 83 and 94
late rampart
In raids there is degenerate abuse. But in keys it is just natural use.
sweet lantern
I was reading above that monks are not that tanky. Is that for M+ only? Why are they so popular in Mythic Raiding, just for DPS?
sick sentinel
monks are a completely foreign concept to me
i pull shit, i attack, i use some brew a little bit..... ??????? wtf i died
cuz i had one at 120, but i only ever did like 3 keys on him one was AD low and it was miserable
blazing condor
have you always been able to have one of each items in NW or is that a new thing
i swear you could only have 2 max
but idrk
sick sentinel
guys having a good question for you all cause i heard that if a warr tanks a key 35% of the healers healling done should be on the tank ad max? is this true?
i know you can hold a shield after you hold a spear
dunno about orb
lofty widget
has been like that since 9.0.5 i belive
ionic fern
guys having a good question for you all cause i heard that if a warr tanks a key...
I'm confused. If you tank a key 35% of the healers healing should be on the tank?
ocean yoke
i dont think ive ever looked at % of who the healer is healing tbh
sick sentinel
I'm confused. If you tank a key 35% of the healers healing should be on the tank...
Yeah this is what i got told if 35% (or less) of his total healing is done on you you apperently have a smooth key
Just wanted some verification on this if this is actually a thing
ionic fern
Nope-
mellow bridge
literally no one looks at that
strong forum
it aint
mellow bridge
I was reading above that monks are not that tanky. Is that for M+ only? Why are ...
Monks need more healing than other tanks but they are hard to kill usually
that's just the nature of their stagger
sick sentinel
Allright thnx! So they made shit up xD
Is there a true BiS gear list for m+? Or is it more like whatever works dor the team?
strong forum
nop doesnt exist in this day and age of wow
just a priority list of stats
ilvl > haste > vers > crit >= mastery
sick sentinel
And what about trinkets? For higher keys cause i am just starting to push 18/19’s scale 252 but what is the best next to it? Defensive wise
fading dirge
Yeah I run aegis and Defense matrix in my 19s
sick sentinel
scale is worse than aegis
Ohh really i did not expect this
strong forum
where have you been all patch 
fading dirge
well for 19s thats overkill
my healer needs a little extra help cause my dps like to eat stuff to the face
strong forum
i guess?
strong forum
not rly
you shouldnt need full defensive trinkets in 19s
its not illegal to run it
but defo shouldnt be needed
sick sentinel
Yeah i just ran a 19 with a pug pala dps who loved to not avoid shit and wanted to stack with quaking and a priest healer who is always been holy an swapped to disc a week ago for the first time
So yeah i needed it xD
priest i was running with was disc i guess and he give me PI that i totally wastd
i dunno if he gave it to me alot but at least once
inland raft
Aegis/reactive is what i run on my pally cuz i dont have anything else yet
Hoping for ows out of box, i dont even have a reactive on my war had one drop but gave it to someone else, i need to pump 
ebon geyser
so with this class changes and hoping blizz dont gut the tier set , is it kyrian now the way to go instead of NF?
sick sentinel
i really need to get going on venthyr quest line and NF quest line
just to have them done
but, i have to go arms or somethin, no god damn way i can do venth tank, just won't work
ebon geyser
my paladin is Kyrian at the moment and if i have to switch i will go vent with pally and kyrian with warrior
for just tanking i dont dabble in dps lol
sick sentinel
i was TRYING to do venth, like, immeadiately afte ri got necro 80 as my second, and it was also for story credit
and i got to some stupid bridge quest and if i leave the zone i fail the quest tried for about 20 minutes and said to hell with it
that, and, execute at full hp, yeah, too much rage dump
ebon geyser
if u get to 80 on Kyrian and i swap back to NF do i have to start at 40 or both will be 80
ebon geyser
well i though if i had one at 80 all will be at 80 and i could swap freely and that was a lie
sick sentinel
only thing u have to do is set ur conduit paths (not the conduits themself) on swap
take the quest
ebon geyser
i dont wanna level 40 lvls im lazy
inland raft
Theres a weakaura that will auto set your soulbind based on class/spec
ebon geyser
i swap my lock from nf to necro and i almost cried when i saw him at 40
i though once i had one at 80 all covenants go to 80
sick sentinel
i'm totally against it but i'm doing it anyways and i'm gunna roll NF for a bit at least
lofty widget
40-80 doesnt take that long, just spam torghast layer 9
sick sentinel
starting at 40 nf
ebon geyser
i mean if the synergy of kyrian and the tier set is that good or good or even better that NF , i dont mind swapping my pally to venthyr
sick sentinel
i have had success with 10 and 11 torgy's but not fond of 12 or 11 for farm
11/12 just hits a bit too much, too much going on for zombie farm no brain
inland raft
9 is most efficient
sick sentinel
do you go in groups
i typically go in a group of 5 close to m+ run,i know if you get avatar last stand ones you cant lose, and the shout ones that make target take more, demo last longer
and then, so, the mobs just fall over
autumn pendant
mellow gorge
cursed
sweet summit
mystic warren
5 warriors +20 when?
autumn pendant
17 rn
ebon geyser
So if I'm ready the prot notes correctly with the tier set we are looking at necro≥kyrian> NF?
autumn pendant
delicate saffron
late rampart
Necro with glory will be very strong in raid scenario. Tough to say at this point if it can beat out kyrian/NF in m+ scenario though.
sick sentinel
if i have to make a guess, necro glory will be haste, crit, then mastery, we have to see what final AP values are going to be like but probably nothing really change
use shield block...
im not a math guy too much but i know all these spells have co-efficients like they are calcuated by 250 base dmg+ (35%ap x2) <-made up one
so, if something ends up doing more damage might change things, doubtful though
late rampart
Conqueror’s banner does no direct damage. Gives you 20% str from conduit, 400 mastery to you and 2 party members (3 with glory) and 4 rage per second. The idea is that since glory legendary allows you to extend the buff substantially (1 min long on 2 min CD or 50% uptime) that the extra 4 rage per second becomes huge combined with anger management leading to more rage spent leading to more avatar uptime with the 4p bonus of 10% more dmg and 10% less dmg taken.
The reality though is it is hard to imagine it is viable to reach such uptimes in m+. Where going pack to pack your buff could drop off. Maybe on tyrannical weeks it is a solid play and you pop it on every boss? 🤷♂️
It is a much more promising theory for raid right now than for m+. Although certain fights in raid will likely make it not playable due to certain downtimes potentially. Have to see the fights. But on fights it works on it could be pretty insane.
ebon geyser
i mean i only care mainly about raid m+ is extra
sick sentinel
i almost feel like you'd use it between the hp gaps of condem, like, so, in the main phase of fighting most bosses
and it ends as boss is going low, like that's how i'd imagine it being useful
so, maybe you'd do it at 70% on some tyranical guy, so you can push p3 faster, top final?
ocean yoke
barring any tuning kyrian would probably still be a very competitive choice for m+. the damage from it is nuts
i would guess over necro for sheer ease of use if literally nothing else
sick sentinel
so, if nobody is in range does nobody get the buff?
somehow you press it at totally wrong moment
ebon geyser
i mean NF fairy slam is good too
sick sentinel
i'm working on nf but i dunno if i ever finish it lol
see wht i can do, i'm crafting that 262 whenever i get chance, i have a whole bunch of leggos need it too
ocean yoke
i like fae, but i also love 40s cd spears
sick sentinel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSqTa9IADHk spear of bastion
thing related
ocean yoke
i usually go fae during raid reclear, gotta keep kyrian for prog since i started prog as it and wanna be as consistent as possible
sick sentinel
sob is fantastic
ocean yoke
itll be a shame losing all these options going into next xpac
still a chance some are kept around somehow as talents etc but still
ocean yoke
im very dumb ill always try
ebon geyser
i usually go fae during raid reclear, gotta keep kyrian for prog since i started...
u have both at 80?
ocean yoke
at 60 or so for fae, everything past getting final trait is just some small conduit stuff so doesnt matter
ive got all but 3 or 4 at 252 anyway
ebon geyser
so u have 80 in kyrian and 60 on fae
ebon geyser
and u mean to tell me when u switch from one to another they stay at the same level
80 and 60
ocean yoke
yeah if youve hit 80 on one youre good to swap around freely
ebon geyser
because if thats the case i will def go kyrian on my warrior and go venthyr on my pally if when i swap they stay both at 80 once they are 80
ocean yoke
make sure youre 80 with one cov or youll need to cap after swap but yeah after youve done that youre good
just 3 clicks at the oribos npcs from a different covenant
ocean yoke
can swap around all you want then
exotic pike
do you guys prefer shard of annhylde's aegis or blood splatter scale for tanking m+. i got shard at 239 and splattered at 246 . Wondering which one to use
mellow bridge
Aegis >>>> scale for m+
Scale is good, but aegis is just straight up broken to be honest
left temple
trim bay
hey guys i hope this isnt a stupid question. in regards to dom socket gear whats the ilvl we sacrifice. like is the shard we put in worth 20 plus ilvl? for example if we have a 3 set is it worth using a 252 bracres over a 239 bracers with dom socket?
warped mulch
How much of a sim trap is ISD on a prot warrior? I have a ISD 13 ilvl higher than power crystal and it is simming a bit higher, you know for those farm fights where I act like a degenerate and use no tank trinkets, but I have heard ISD never really performs as well as it sims.
sick sentinel
I q d?
If if it's that one we need a weak aura because it can do other things you don't want like restore healer mana
warped mulch
yeah, IQD
sick sentinel
My understanding is you want to trigger it to give Stat buffs, or do executes, but I never used it much due to seemingly random nature
warped mulch
right, just not sure how accurate the sims are on it for beating out a -13 ilvl power crystal
sick sentinel
Well it can restore healer mana, heal you or make earth elemental is tank dudes
So it's probably too hard to do in practice to where it increase dps
Oh and it functions as normal pvp trinket as well if you get steeped say (haven't tested against sheep page says "removes cc"
urban portal
its good
in terms of damage
its better in m+
it gives like double the stats of IQD at double the cd
its not a sim trap
and its not random
you know what its going to do always
you just cant control it
warped mulch
well, the stats are
sick sentinel
I think the trick to making that work was you wait for full party hp before pull and then go iqd avatar charge normal stuff
sick sentinel
And you could more or less garuntee more iqd Stat boosts
I never used that trinket power crystal more than handful of times
And felt like I was wasting my time and effort when I did, then again crit
Gear set I have wouldn't allow crit to be chosen then, not enough nearly
13-16% atm I think on crit
sick sentinel
Yeah my base crit from crit gear alone no buffe is that number
sick sentinel
I want to say like 340 but I was going to swap to glory try in torghast
sick sentinel
So, use slightly different gear
Yeah cuz gunna go craft nf leggo maybe venth and 262 enduring, will be torghast all week
opaque hearth
anyone know if the emissary heroic cache gives Syl and KT loot?
honest plinth
What soulbind is better in terms of dps in m+ currently, niya or mika?
urban portal
mik
lime urchin
anyone know if the emissary heroic cache gives Syl and KT loot?
It doesn’t
jagged pier
How much of a sim trap is ISD on a prot warrior? I have a ISD 13 ilvl higher tha...
its a huge bait and only worth if your running necro lord
jagged pier
What soulbind is better in terms of dps in m+ currently, niya or mika?
mika
koryan however is uber busted
lucid pasture
@jagged pier hw high would the potential uptime be on avatar with ss
?
ss+reprisal or sumthin
jagged pier
not enough to make it worth while ever
lucid pasture
nvm then, was a quick thought, if the uptime was high enough maybe it would be worth with the set bonus
ionic fern
Well, the restrictions are the Condemn windows.
lucid pasture
yee
ionic fern
And for Execute windows a properly played NL will do more.
lucid pasture
nimble log
ionic fern
Huh?
jagged pier
it already is on anything ST
lucid pasture
yeeyye
ionic fern
I'm just gonna chill as Kyrian. 😦
lucid pasture
kyrian godtier no cap
ionic fern
It has the potential to be IF you play it correctly.
urban portal
meaning not losing a single swing while charge weaving?
and im assuming its reprisal
ionic fern
If you want to NL you will go Glory.
And try to maximise the uptime on the buff.
Pretty much trying to have the buff up 100% of the Execute phase = big damage.
rotund thicket
i love when the banner runs out and its only 29 sec left on the cd 
blazing condor
i have no idea cus i've literally only been kyrian
jagged pier
well near perma banner gunna be juice in raid next patch
jagged pier
🤔
ionic fern
Jeah, that was a nice touch.
ionic fern
It honestly depends on the trinkets.
ionic fern
I mean..i'm still using a Scale right now so..maybe i can get by with that another tier.
😂
blazing condor
ionic fern
I don't have Sack. 😦
blazing condor
we're in the worst timeline
ionic fern
I think i just defaulted to Scale/OWS right now.
On Tyrannical keys i tend to run OWS/Phial.
I don't trust my DPS'ers/Healers enough so i want to have the extra on-use..you've seen the groups i have.
jagged pier
i havent even done 1
havent logged in since clearing the raid
KEKW
can do 1 this evening
the moment i get slyv sheild i start running more m+ to try and get that sweet 252 phial
strong forum
:treadmill:
jagged pier
blazing condor
how i sleep knowing i dont have to spend hours of my week playing wow and not getting any loot
silk edge
sack is good on m+ aswell or is more of a ST trinket ?
jagged pier
its insane for both
silk edge
k
ionic fern
can do 1 this evening
Let me know when.
jagged pier
will do
modern brook
is next reset legion time walking
strong forum
I thought 7th?
jagged pier
maybe i dunno
strong forum
Can you repeat the question?
jagged pier
its like ppl expect me to open in game calendar and also pay attention to what its showing
i do nither
its soon tm
tho
lofty widget
it's not the reset tomorrow but the one after that
ionic fern
7-20 December
jagged pier
@ionic fern we gunna be doing ksm legion???????????
shrewd bronze
Guys, it's been a while since I played prot so I can't really tell looking at the tier set
Is that good?
The general outlook of it
lofty widget
not the best of t he tank sets, but it's definitely good
theres a writeup from llarold on wowhead if youre interested
shrewd bronze
Neat, i'll look it up, thank you
ripe fjord
What are your guy’s go-to m+ trinkets, I’ve been running Scale/OWS. Should I be running anything else?
distant crystal
RDM, Aegis, phial are big ones
median timber
How are all yall shield slammers today
strong forum
5/10
median timber
Why so low
median timber
Boring tho
median timber
Better than drama
strong forum
I hate drama with a passion
ripe fjord
RDM, Aegis, phial are big ones
Lol I’m a bit of a tank trinket noob, what does rdm stand for and what’s the full name of Aegis?
jagged pier
How are all yall shield slammers today
pie
distant crystal
reactive defense matrix and shard of annalhyde's aegis
i butcherered the spelling there but fuckit
ripe fjord
Kk, I’ll look into those, I’ve REALLY liked BSS on prot warr lol, I feel like it saved my ass a LOT, so might be just looking for a replacement for my 233 OWS lol
jagged pier
scale is buget aegis
distant crystal
for keys at least, aegis is just a better scale yeah
and RDM is just a nice passive absorb + dps combo
ripe fjord
Ight, I’ll get dat one
distant crystal
it's kinda similar to OWS in that it's defensive/offensive
but in a different way
robust rover
For Necrotic coming up, I've never been Kyrian during this affix until now. Would a setup with Kleia look like this? https://www.wowhead.com/soulbind-calc/kyrian/kleia/warrior/AwC-apYBBRy6ABElLTsAJAVMTQAVHJEAJSUCADV2AAA Or would there be a point to taking Bearer's Pursuit to slow mobs (does this work off aoe attacks?)
mellow bridge
looks fine but honestly you dont need Kleia
ripe fjord
Yeah I actually love how mika uses phials for u, very nice
cinder pasture
I hate it as a tank
lofty widget
you shouldnt take that path tho
distant crystal
it helped u live laugh love prot warr
distant crystal
at least you can survive the first couple seconds of a pull without cds
modern brook
that path is fine
using kleia is ??? but i respect it
but that path gives you the 2 juciest things in kleia's tree at the price of lol sof
I cant tell if spear of the archon is good though cause details either doesnt track it correctly or its under a different name i ant find in it
robust rover
Sounds good all. I'll start with Mika first as there is also the nerf to necrotic to help as well.
jagged pier
i mean it wasnt really an affix before anyway
modern brook
necrotic was never a concern
tbh
we have a shield :^)
and also aegis existed this patch
robust rover
necrotic was never a concern
So I only did a little 10-15 lvl tanking as a warrior. As a BDK, necrotic was really rough when my "defensive" is to self heal... I basically had to kite asap and essentially died often on some packs.
modern brook
yeah BDK doesnt have a shield :^)
robust rover
Also I have an Aegis now, so how do I best use it? Initially on pull or when stacks of Necrotic are going up?
modern brook
you'd use it as you would any defensive
Aegis just gets value against necrotic because the absorb isnt affected by stacks
robust rover
Thanks! That works for me.
modern brook
similar to how Shield wall always blocks 40% of incoming damage regardless of stacks
mellow bridge
copium
sick sentinel
me 9.2 with glory and leaper and bounding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gluVzxIm8R8
meme spec
its not alot, but leap does some aoe dmg, you'd get a movespeed, but it doesn't really synergize with anything besides.... taunt?
agile pumice
100 taunt parse
sick sentinel
completely invalidate fights like dealer
jagged pier
@ionic fern im ready
sick sentinel
i put it in the transmog channel
strong forum
Imagine all the juicy high rolling on matrix
And just immune entire dmg events and do big dam
modern brook
RDM = Retard dumb moron
I'd reather be a dumb moron than a weeb stupid
tropic gorge
i dont recall where i was at, but i saw the Blood-Spattered Scale land a crit this week for 25k
i was absolutley amazed that 1: it could crit
and 2: it would do that much damage
ripe fjord
i dont recall where i was at, but i saw the Blood-Spattered Scale land a crit th...
My BSS always hits for ~20k when I hit it, it’s amazing for burst threat lol
I’ve gotta really used to it tbh
jagged pier
as many of use have said before yes it is
mellow bridge
first week i finally had a 252 matrix to try
prefered using 259 ows over hc matrix tbh
sick sentinel
@tropic gorgeit does that in an aoe around you if i remember, and gives you IP like effect
ripe fjord
What does matrix drop from?
tropic gorge
yeah its a mega shield
ripe fjord
Raid?
sick sentinel
mega shield is what im gettin from that box tomorrow
tropic gorge
i like to use bss in big ass pulls for bonus threat, and meter padding lmao
sick sentinel
252
mellow bridge
What does matrix drop from?
guardian from raid
ripe fjord
Shit, my prot warr is on alliance and I don’t mythic raid on him yet
mellow bridge
it's already very good on heroic which you should be able to pug
tropic gorge
i need to try to get more guardian kills in
ripe fjord
Ikk, I just don’t like having to use 239 trinkets lol
But I’ll downgrade from my 246 BSS ig
mellow bridge
what's your other trinket
ripe fjord
OWS
tropic gorge
i use shard of whatever from the 9 heroic
ripe fjord
Yeah ik
tropic gorge
i got ultra lucky and bonus rolled +avoidance on it
ripe fjord
That’s one is hella good
tropic gorge
+bss
ripe fjord
Not bad!
jagged pier
aegis from normal/lfr is better than a 252 scale
ripe fjord
Bruh
jagged pier
and matrix from hc is better than pretty much any other trinket
ripe fjord
That’s
jagged pier
not really uncapped damage mitigation is insane
ripe fjord
not really uncapped damage mitigation is insane
Ik lol, just getting lucky enough to get a 252 bss just for it to get beat by a heroic on-use from raid
ripe fjord
I’m not a prot warr main
jagged pier
for any tank
ripe fjord
I bet u can’t guess my main lol
sturdy sable
Warlock
ripe fjord
lol MY BAD bud
sturdy sable
Aw man now ill never know if im right
ripe fjord
Aw man now ill never know if im right
<—-
tropic gorge
hah, i have a reactive matrix from lfgr in my bank
lfr*
massive ilvl drop tho. the lfr version reflects 4774. i have to wonder if the drop from 246 to 213 is worth it
jagged pier
no only aegis
tropic gorge
speaking of gods trinket. am i seeing my scrolling combat text wrong, it seems to abosrb dot dmg
jagged pier
yes
tropic gorge
i dont know how to look to see what is absorbing what
jagged pier
aegis reduces all damage
tropic gorge
its so redic powerful. i love it so much
jagged pier
very powerful
river elm
Try it on brewmaster, it absorbs stagger too.. thing is busted
jagged pier
yep
tropic gorge
i was told months ago it didnt
jagged pier
well u werent in here
strong forum
tropic gorge
it wasnt really suprising. more verifying that what i was seeing is what i was seeing
it was in here lol
i dont remember who
strong forum
Ban him
tropic gorge
lmao
time to do my mc run for bindings
in all the time ive ran mc, ive seen one binding drop
agile pumice
Hope you're ready to get the same one again
tropic gorge
it wasnt me it dropped for lmao
the guild i was in during vanilla had one drop during a raid i was in
lime urchin
252 scale of Hakkar or lfr aegis in m+?
strong forum
Scale
lime urchin
HAH trick question! We play dps trinkets!
ocean yoke
gotem
ionic fern
Damn, i diddn't know BRM did only 2.9k dps.
strong forum
ionic fern
Jk, pug DPS'ers are just bad and Jakey pumps. 😦
sick sentinel
i gotta farm out some torghast
save 280 points and i could buy the explosion thing, that would sure as hell help with it
ripe fjord
Jk, pug DPS'ers are just bad and Jakey pumps. 😦
Wait wtf, is that overall dungeon dmg?
ionic fern
Yes
lofty widget
which dungeon?
ripe fjord
Yes
Yeah that is NUTS
Most I’ve pulled on prot warr is 6k overall in a dos or something lol
lime urchin
stream the pumping Jakey! show us!
chilly brook
lime urchin
I still think it would be fun to see 😦
strong forum
I have 2 dumb keys on my YouTube if you wanna see that
lime urchin
with many revenj?
strong forum
1 key was with elysian might
1 was 4 pwars running seismic
Very old keys tho so not crazy overalls cuz undergeard
jagged pier
stream the pumping Jakey! show us!
maybe next time
jagged pier
when u do 9.9k and mwahi whispers u at the start 'doesnt sack do more dps than RDM'
strong forum
Life tough
ionic fern
😦
strong forum
Shoulda played better
modern brook
No new content
boooo
sick sentinel
when you have completed the mythic raids and +22's, it's time to create your own content by playing weird specs and talents minimizers
daring bay
Are warriors legit the worst tank atm? if so what makes them less desired than other ones?
Squishier? less dmg? i feel like utility wise they should be on par with the other ones
sick sentinel
the problem is that warrior is based on active prediction and execution of using the right cooldowns or not
and if we don't predict damage right and mis-use CDs, we take too much dmg
daring bay
I mean, we can have close to 100% uptide on SB in combat right?
and other than that its the basic "hard hitting" shit everyone has to use cds for
and if warrior is just "harder to play" which tbh i dont buy, the best people in the world still would play it. But they are playing all the other tanks
sick sentinel
for magic you have reflect for universal -20% mdmg, IP but thats only 50% absorb and wall, of course indom or other effects that heal help a bit
mm, there are people here who have no problem with playing the spec, i'm inbetween, but not a good player
daring bay
Maybe ye, but i just wanted to know why people would play a paladin lets say, rather than a warrior
esp wince monks and rouges are so popular now
lofty widget
it's just down to popularity with bear maybe pulling slightly ahead in higher keys
sick sentinel
i don't play pink bubble boy
lofty widget
tank balance is incredible atm
sick sentinel
yeah, if you are warrior tank and you or healer or group is complaining you are taking a lot of damage or people just randomly dying its likely unkowingly you somehow
because, you have the power to decide the size of the pull and where the mobs put some of their shit on the ground
or didnt do right cd, too early too late, many things can go wrong
ocean yoke
warriors mostly just got a pretty undeserved reputation from SL launch patch so theyre less popular
sick sentinel
thunderclap became so bad that ravager is now the default for any aoe content, need i say more?
that can't help anything
ocean yoke
thunder clap being a wet noodle stinks but i like ravager
thick slate
Anyone knows what’s the actual range on the necro banner? The two closest allies tooltip isn’t helping at all…
lofty widget
my guess would be there is no range, why do you need to know anyway?
if your desired target is that far away the buff will probably go on someone else
sick sentinel
i want to say the way it works is as soon as its activated it chooses 2 players closest within 30 yards, and as long as you can keep the buff up on your self you keep buff on them? could be confused
it's up to 3 others with emeni
i think if nobody else is in range when you activate, nobody else gets it then, but i may be confused
thick slate
Hmm ok. It’s just I remember Emeni range was stupid small. But I’ll test it out. Got kyrian to 80 today. Necro is next )
sick sentinel
i had heard about a bonesmith execute build with carvers eye, but someone told someone else to do emeni
quiet crane
Paladin has incredible damage aswell as insane self healing, bear is immortal every three minutes and you spam thrash and iron fur it’s brain dead and also has a ton of utility
You don’t usually have to work as hard as those tanks for the same results but like it was stated earlier tanks are stupid close in balancing
@daring bay
daring bay
I feel like with a monk and rouge our buff should compensate for the dps diffrence
quiet crane
Not quite but it’s nice to have
daring bay
But ye, our healing departments not the best
quiet crane
That’s true but our dmg intake is very smooth and is very predictable
Therefore making it easy to heal
daring bay
Ye, bur if a prot warr does 4k lets say overall in a key
A pala would do what? 6k?
On 5 target patchwork for rouge over 1 min our buff gives 700 dps to a rouge
Idk feel like there shouldnt be a big diffrence
Guess i gear a pala and see the diffrence
urban portal
But consider that if you have more survival, healers can spend gcds doing damage
So that matters too
worthy karma
umm so I've been doing 18-19s but I did a 15 and was like capping on rage...like revenge spamming the night away and still capped. I still shouldn't dump it at cap into ip tho (when not serious magic dmg) right? Maybe spread out my ravager and spear? I kinda dump them ontop of eachother
worthy karma
for sure thank you
mighty valley
Always dump, remember it's all spinning down avatar from AM
Rather that than like, missing out aligning your CDs with avatar
sick sentinel
1 more torgy and i can do my 262 enduring
forest meadow
Yeah IP to prevent rage cap, and it's like 45 second avatar and maybe 2 minute shield wall. Rage gen with reprisal feels so crazy. But alllllll over the battlefield.
coarse seal
A pala would do what? 6k?
So many variables in keys, I can average 8k overall DPS as a prot warrior in SD. The guy who raid tanks with me for my guild is probably an equal skill level but as a prot paladin doesn't manage to crack 7k and everyone will tell you prot paladins are crazy dps...the balancing is very close so would just play what you enjoy
strong forum
Generally vdh pwar and pally do the same dps in m+
Monk a bit more
Bear and dk a little less
Altho a very good bear will do the same dmg as pwar/vdh/pally
wooden radish
@ionic fern
uncut juniper
So many variables in keys, I can average 8k overall DPS as a prot warrior in SD....
What kind of Setup (covenants, Talents, trinkets) are you running for maximizing dps in Low 15-17 keys? Since survivability ist clearly not an issue in this keyrange im always looking for the most pumped Setup to blast weekly Keys.
uncut juniper
Im running kyrian mika EM with Power Crystal Blast Build.
jagged pier
u should not be running power crystal
uncut juniper
but i didnt think of seismic. i assume you mean gems and enchants when talking about "crit" or is there sth else?
ionic fern
Gear.
uncut juniper
ah
jagged pier
no keep them all haste
uncut juniper
u should not be running power crystal
but i like the burst xD what to use instead?
jagged pier
i had 30% crit yesterday and like 15% haste felt horribly slow to play
phial and sack
100% more damage
ionic fern
i had 30% crit yesterday and like 15% haste felt horribly slow to play
BUT THE PUMP.
jagged pier
even ppl in raid running EM use phial and sack
jagged pier
BUT THE PUMP.
BUT 7 SEC CD ON SS
ionic fern
😂
uncut juniper
sry whats sack :D
jagged pier
sack of terror
uncut juniper
aaah the tazavesh one
jagged pier
yes
uncut juniper
dont have. need to farm :D
jagged pier
but honestly its mosts high ilvl dom sockets and playing correctly
and if your playing koryan ability to abuse first strike
uncut juniper
and if your playing koryan ability to abuse first strike
you mean Shard of Cor?
forest meadow
Korayn is the night fae soulbind. Gives you +25% crit for 5 seconds when attacking a new target.
Plus his top thing gives extra damage to enemies over 90% health
uncut juniper
Didnt think about that. Thanks for the input. Now i got sth to do :D
forest meadow
But at 9k DPS like the above screenshot, that's most likely 5 shards at max rank in 252 raid gear.
Or close to it
ionic fern
252..lol
coarse seal
What kind of Setup (covenants, Talents, trinkets) are you running for maximizing...
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/59651942
Some logs to go with it, ignore the sylvanas fight I didnt log my best kill on her
uncut juniper
Thanks for sharing :)
uncut juniper
Is this your 9k Run @jagged pier? I dont see seismic there 🤔
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-sl-2/14366401-15-mists-of-tirna-scithe
ionic fern
No you weren't.
uncut juniper
or raiderio isnt tracking it correctly?
uncut juniper
yeah
ionic fern
You were running Seismic.
uncut juniper
thats what i thought
ionic fern
I just checked the log to confirm.