To clarify, I'd probably only use this for M+, but who knows.
#protection
cinder nova
cinder nova
Zed
Admittedly, the end of a dungeon Zed is still between 1-2.5% of my overall.
So, I'm a little cagey about tossing it aside.
That being noted, I use Zed over Kyr
cinder nova
Oh, does it?
cinder nova
Oh yeah fuck this nevermind. It's probably padded from the rest of my party.
strong forum
Zed on average is 70 dps per shard
strong forum
Defensively, abso-fucking-lutely
cinder nova
Oh really?
mellow gorge
lads
cinder nova
Portentous Kyr that slappy?
cinder nova
I don't think shades social.
mellow gorge
aight ty
cinder nova
Yeah, you can't social a pull with shades. Just like Lts. they don't social.
Wait doesn't Zed do HPS too
How much is the HPS from it per shard
strong forum
Zed does negligible hps
waxen orbit
cinder nova
This is big boy camp Thwump. Some of the thundercocks here get 10K overalls with rep
Not even running SR
strong forum
Record to break is 10.3k iirc
cinder nova
^
waxen orbit
Ez
strong forum
Get to it 
strong forum
Ah
waxen orbit
What level key doe
waxen orbit
Not too shabby
strong forum
What's the affixes
jagged pier
spiteful
strong forum
Big pad
jagged pier
yer its huge pad week
strong forum
First strike big stonks
waxen orbit
Bonegrinder + Ravager + Kyr + Seismic Reverb
strong forum
11k possible
waxen orbit
Ez 11k
jagged pier
i dont think im gunna play bonegrinder tbh
sick sentinel
Felt like experimenting
how banner simp man do 8.3 dmg
jagged pier
it fucking sucks
sick sentinel
have 262 glory and rep
strong forum
how banner simp man do 8.3 dmg
He's venthyr
sick sentinel
:S
strong forum
Only name is banner
waxen orbit
^
waxen orbit
43 renown so take it with a grain of salt
sick sentinel
13 DOS comin up, FML, but trinket chance
strong forum
Painchamp
sick sentinel
i get really scared of the 2nd pull if no interupts and no shield wall
then thats the scary part over EZ
strong forum
Be a bitch and kite that pull
Lowkey, just get in, slap a bit get aggro and piss off until dead
Either you or pack
waxen orbit
i get really scared of the 2nd pull if no interupts and no shield wall
For second pull, lust if it's anything above a 21. Shockwave to interrupt the Scribe casts, and then Spell Reflect the first Shadowcore. Have DPS train on interrupting as much as possible but try and make every single Reflect hit the Shadowcore
sick sentinel
i get LOS down the stairs and healer can't heal me is what i'll argue
cuz tey don't stand close to ledges for that
waxen orbit
Kite them onto the corners
mellow bridge
use less stuff on first pull so you have more on 2nd
waxen orbit
No need to go down stairs
sick sentinel
you don't lust the first pull? standard seems to be lust first pull CD 2nd pull
sick sentinel
my groups always do lust first pull, and i save my SW by staying out of stuff leaping from rage and having hunter
then, i SW second pull when im low
waxen orbit
I'd heavily recommend lusting second pull on fort week
sick sentinel
i ran a 13 dos the other day and i told them the first 2 packs are pain points and we lusted first pack and 2nd was okay after i said giga interups
odd tree
looks like i need to dust off siesmic
waxen orbit
Worth a spin this week
Okay now to go back to Kyrian and never touch that red geek covenant again
mellow bridge
you should SW before you fall low 🤷♂️
youre probably getting burst by bonestrikes and a few casts at the same time
mellow bridge
then you SW after the bonestrikes are on CD
oblique garnet
and we had no drums or bl
waxen orbit
You sure that NF would do more this week?
oblique garnet
think i can get closer to 11-12K marks this week if i really want to try and push the damage
waxen orbit
It's capped
strong forum
First strike op lol
strong forum
Also AA does more dmg on 5 targets than spear does on... 12?
iirc
So that's a moot point
cinder nova
Isn't AA 2m
strong forum
1.15m
jagged pier
It was on kyrian
veinripper and bonegrinder as well?
oblique garnet
Nah
jagged pier
fair
oblique garnet
i dont play bonegrinder
cinder nova
What the fuck is veinripper
waxen orbit
Veinripper? You mean the Agi weapon from Painsmith lmao?
oblique garnet
Yes
jagged pier
What the fuck is veinripper
agi wep off painsmith
strong forum
Veinripper is agi weapon from painsmith
cinder nova
Oh god why would you
oblique garnet
: )
strong forum
Cuz thunderclap
oblique garnet
and because i can
cinder nova
I feel like it isn't worth it, is it actually a DPS bump in keys
jagged pier
its like 300-400k damage over the key
urban portal
i dont even use my 239 vein over my 249 weapon on my dh
strong forum
Thats
urban portal
but i guess theres less procs
jagged pier
u should tho
urban portal
it sims worse when 3 targets exists
jagged pier
that is legit a dps increase
strong forum
Veinripper does more dmg on 6 targets than pox storm
urban portal
10 weapon ilvl is the thing tho
waxen orbit
Don't follow sims religiously
Dude a 233 trinket is BIS for prot dps lmfao
Ilvl means jack
strong forum
10ilvl means fucking nothing on an offhand
cinder nova
Does it do more DPS in ST?
urban portal
it does
cinder nova
Even over a 252?
strong forum
Veinripper beats any weapon in ST
cinder nova
HMMM.
strong forum
Even a 239 beats a 259 offhand
waxen orbit
It's kind of like an even more busted Jaithys
modern brook
220 btw
waxen orbit
The rogue I run with has two so like
strong forum
And veinripper beats any weapon until 6 targets
waxen orbit
Nah I was talmbout for DPS spec
mellow gorge
what do i lose for equipping vein ripper
waxen orbit
Primary stat
modern brook
because TC and deep wounds proc the dot
lmao
mellow gorge
no abilities?
waxen orbit
You still have abilities; it's a one hander
modern brook
no abilities?
mainstat
cinder nova
And veinripper beats any weapon until 6 targets
Wait, so it's worth less the more adds you're cleaving?
waxen orbit
Correct
urban portal
for dps specs at least
waxen orbit
That's why it's so fucking nutty on Outlaw rogue
urban portal
but its just bis on st because the damage is so high
cinder nova
Doesn't that mean the dot spreads more prolifically, how does that work if you can just TC/Rev DW and set it up.
waxen orbit
Because they can't hit past that target cap
sweet summit
Wait, so it's worth less the more adds you're cleaving?
that's usually how raw damage procs vs stats work in a vacuum
cinder nova
Wait, so... if I have 10 mobs and I Rev to DW them all, why wouldn't 10 targets proccing Veinripper do more DPS than a 252 that just slaps harder?
Especially with square root scaling.
urban portal
because veinripper doesnt technically proc more the more you hit if its on a ppm
which most things in this game is
cinder nova
Oh, well... see nobody told me it was PPM based. I kind of figured, but talk of how batshit it was made me think otherwise.
urban portal
most things in this game is
like how cautex scammed people saying you can get more unholy procs with toys
strong forum
Wait, so it's worth less the more adds you're cleaving?
Yes, it only procs on 1 target
cinder nova
Sadge.
I thought it would just proc independently on each target you were bleeding and it got to slither around square root.
cinder nova
Reminds me of Cata when tanks were using agi rings and necks because DEX scaled dodge better than STR did parry, plus it gave armor and crit.
strong forum
Don't need it to deal several thousand dps
distant crystal
i kinda miss all primary stats giving some benefits to everyone
urban portal
no ty
distant crystal
even though it was a pretty cursed system, it was interesting
ret pallies using agi polearms for the crit
urban portal
then you need to make leather gear either give agi or int
strong forum
Gearing has become insanely mundane, but the game is designed around that aswell. I don't want arbitrary stats like expertise/hit tho
urban portal
if it gives both then it would go crazy
urban portal
Gearing has become insanely mundane, but the game is designed around that aswell...
hit just feels bad
imo
distant crystal
enh shamans wearing weird bear leather that had STR on it
urban portal
its like buying insurance
distant crystal
idk, i got a nice lil dopamine hit when i managed to hit/expertise cap perfectly
strong forum
Yeah lemme just be pissed off for no reason other than LOL you missed hitcap by 1point get fucked nerd
waxen orbit
i kinda miss all primary stats giving some benefits to everyone
Back then it was interesting but nowadays I think it would just result in more grinding
strong forum
Hit cap requirements are disgusting in every game and should be removed
modern brook
gearing is a relic of the past
distant crystal
and you had nice little degen builds that sprang up because of it
waxen orbit
Just knowing how Blizzard does this shit now
strong forum
It's not fun or engaging
distant crystal
seems like enh shamans had a higher tendency to get those degen builds
strong forum
Needing to max 1 stat before you can get actual stats
waxen orbit
I want gearing to be engaging and have potential for individuality and unique play style, but I don’t want another damn Azerite system
blazing condor
Bring back reforging
distant crystal
azerite armor is conceptually better than tier
sweet summit
after vendor, sure
waxen orbit
distant crystal
they needed to 1) have vendor immediately 2) lower/remove the grind to unlock rings 3) add more interesting class/spec specific traits
strong forum
Azerite should've had loads more traits
strong forum
And more rings
modern brook
If hey didnt just dumpster the idea and move on
waxen orbit
It’s insanely difficult to balance
modern brook
It’s insanely difficult to balance
i mean look at the meters now lol
azerite armor isnt hard to balance the game is
strong forum
Wna know when the game is the most fun?
The last patches of an expac when everything is unbalanced as fuck
urban portal
rn is fine
outside of big outliers like enh shaman
ele shaman has low st but the have their niches in m+
and even survival isnt too bad
modern brook
outside of big outliers like enh shaman
if you're willing to ignroe data sets anything is fine 🤷
urban portal
fight design>any semblance of balance
in a patchwerk
even in sims nothing is too far from each other
the classes that are shit in sims pop off in aoe
ele/ww
waxen orbit
I definitely like having specific classes that excel and falter in different areas
urban portal
some classes are carried by raid design too
arms isnt exactly the most poggers st spec
its right in the middle
but its very valued
mm is middle bottom but rwf is willing to take 3 of those into guardian
strong forum
Well that's also cuz bring the player
If not for Roger echo wouldn't have brought a hunter, pretty sure
urban portal
they brought 3 mms and 2 ele shams
which is definitely not what the sims are telling them
distant crystal
mm is pretty amazing in p1/p2
strong forum
Echo had elesham?
urban portal
of guardian
strong forum
You sure
urban portal
im just saying the st fight
strong forum
Cuz enh enabled arms war to pop off
distant crystal
i mean who they bring to any fight is based on what they think will be good for finalboss
it's not like they thought ele or mm were great for guardian
urban portal
who was the guild that cheesed guardian with 1 tank
distant crystal
BDGG i think?
ionic fern
Be a DH, dash into a frontal
Ask the tank to "Turn the frontals away"
sweet summit
ows phial
mellow gorge
aegis ows
mellow gorge
but i'm a sucker for scale
vocal geode
scale feels nice
sweet summit
why 🤔
vocal geode
but then again I just got aegis
mellow gorge
cause scale is juicer
vocal geode
sweet summit
🤔
strong forum
Scale is worse than aegis tho
sweet summit
no
sweet summit
mellow gorge
go behind your aegis bubbles
urban portal
>Be a DH, dash into a frontal
>Ask the tank to "Turn the frontals away"
theres no counterplay into dashing into sundering on guardian
vocal geode
gonna be aegis + phial I reckon
sweet summit
netherwalk
strong forum
😔
sweet summit
5head
mellow gorge
oh
strong forum
Yup
mellow gorge
no wonder why it's bad smh
strong forum
Scale is hardcapped to 5
vocal geode
let me try my 246 on dummies
urban portal
aegis is like 8k a pop
urban portal
so it breaks even on 12 autos
vocal geode
urban portal
thats also over 8 seconds
urban portal
sprinkle in some of that grievous too
sweet summit
mmm
strong forum
Yup aegis is broken
blazing condor
its good 
mellow bridge
just got 259 ows 
sweet summit
pogging for u
blazing condor
Pog
blazing condor
oh fuck i'm- I'M- IM POOGING
mellow gorge
so ~600 dps
strong forum
oh fuck i'm- I'M- IM POOGING
That sounds like a quote
strong forum
so ~600 dps
Give or take 100 dps, yeah that's around what both trinkets will do combined
mellow gorge
that does sound quite juicy
lofty widget
finally above 90 % :
lofty widget
nah AM
sweet summit
strong forum
Somebody has been tryharding block then
lofty widget
HR is for wussies
sweet summit
truf
mellow gorge
i think i'm doing 80 or so
lofty widget
yea in dos
mellow gorge
ooo
mellow bridge
Kiting 90% of the time doesnt count tho 
vocal geode
which stats are preferred for m+? I reckon I should bring my haste up by a lot more
feels kinda aids to play with 8%
mellow gorge
haste verse usually
mellow gorge
is the default go to
mellow bridge
prot is your offspec I guess?
strong forum
Ilvl > haste > vers >=crit >= mastery
vocal geode
so should be fine
sweet summit
8% haste 
mellow gorge
yes
sweet summit
real chads play crit vers for maximun damage :v)
mellow gorge
not necessarily
vocal geode
mellow gorge
what didn't drop?
sick sentinel
trinket scale
mellow gorge
F
sick sentinel
35% of avoidance
mellow gorge
ah
sick sentinel
or, rather, not, in some cases
it's not as good as a log, but it's better than details/recount or nothing, in this application
modern brook
I mean is it accurate
sick sentinel
well, without logging this tells me i blocked a ton of stuff or didn't
if could filter out magic damage options i would
modern brook
Right but like
Without logging
I could tell you you blocked a ton of stuff or didnt
Doesn't mean I'm right
I can even send it to you in a pie graph
blazing condor
🥧
modern brook
Unrelated I'm making an addon
It just emails me a request and I send you an ms paint of the request back
Plz download 🙏
modern brook
Did you download the addon
It's called Bulls Hits
It may also be a crypto miner
But don't worry about that
sick sentinel
i would want to make a WA/addon that it counts how many times i blocked in combat vs full hits and then it just resets after each combat
crystal iris
whats a good Block % for melee?
jagged pier
Depends on talents leggo
crystal iris
you guys set me up before
jagged pier
Boss or dungeon
blazing condor
80+% is a good aim
crystal iris
and where can i see that in logs? damage taken, melee, blocked hits?
modern brook
i would want to make a WA/addon that it counts how many times i blocked in comba...
The reason that difficult to do in real time and why details doesn't offer it as an option without additional addon and I doubt the accuracy of Skada is that the addon needs to scan the combat log of x things in a pull in real time
crystal iris
ok I need to up my numbers before sending you guys the logs haha
jagged pier
Damage taken> melees > hover over hits
modern brook
It's prone to mistakes. Missing lines etc
crystal iris
ty ty
modern brook
Thats why on long fights you'll see ??? Next to casts for melee attacks
Csuse it breaks its margin of error cause the answer is " a fucking lot"
cinder nova
Speaking of M+ what are some good auras/addons that show my group's DPS CDs?
sick sentinel
nvm it was showing spells from my top run
cinder nova
What do you guys think will be our best DSP leggo setup in 9.2
Part of me kinda expects Signet, but I really hope not.
crystal iris
wow i dont think i fully realized how much rage Ravager gives you
prisma crane
Part of me kinda expects Signet, but I really hope not.
depends on covenant i'd assume, and aoe or ST
crystal iris
hmm NW +16 I had 72% SB uptime but still only blocked 54% of melees
well is says 54% blocked but 78% mitigated...
late notch
For the parse, unholy set or blood set?
oblique garnet
What do you guys think will be our best DSP leggo setup in 9.2
Elysian&seismic *
odd tree
is bonegrinder tooltip bugged?
cinder nova
No, I don't think it was ever intended for use as Prot.
Don't be shocked if they close that function.
mellow bridge
Speaking of M+ what are some good auras/addons that show my group's DPS CDs?
OmniCD
fierce juniper
Elysian&seismic *
What do you think will be our best DSP leggo setup in 7.2
oblique garnet
What do you think will be our best DSP leggo setup in 7.2
I dont know private adam
gaunt dawn
We didnt have double lego in tomb
Iirc
And everyone was being a guardian druid fotm
Need them roars for KJ
gaunt dawn
No that's the other panthea
I'm.uh
Penthia
Have you found my flute?
Its somewhere in torghast
fierce juniper
fierce juniper
is wow good yet
cinder nova
Nope.
fierce juniper
very unlucky
cinder nova
I wouldn't attribute it to luck.
pallid musk
Nice to see you around here Panthea, one of ”Useful minion” but i’m on same boat with protection learning here 
fierce juniper
paladins 
pallid musk
I feel kinda hard to not using reperisal on SoD trash. ”The Wall” leggo make i almost dying on trash clear to boss
cinder nova
Or just use SR and double pull like a real thundercock.
pallid musk
And then i had equip ”The wall” before ./10 pull time
cinder nova
What are you doing that requires that much Shield Wall uptime?
pallid musk
Hmm i feel its kinda easier to play ”The Wall” leggo on bosses
With big rage generate
pallid musk
Yes a few bosses Represial is still good
cinder nova
No, all bosses.
There's really no boss that requires Shield Wall up enough that you should be picking The Wall over it as far as defensive value goes.
pallid musk
I used Represial on Guardian and i need that 50 % dmg reduce to migitute Sunder
Is only one boss i wish shield cd with last stand + SB would be up
gaunt dawn
There's really no boss that requires Shield Wall up enough that you should be pi...
Guardian
checkmate 😎
pallid musk
I agree with Panthea about Guardian 😉
urban portal
didnt you just say you use reprisal for it
urban portal
baseline shield block is enough
oblique garnet
Idk eye doesnt really do anything to tanks imo
urban portal
statistically more people use guardian than reprisal
i mean the wall than reprisal
on guardian
gaunt dawn
you telling me you dont do guardian like this?
urban portal
thats optimal
gaunt dawn
altho in that situ i'd prolly play reprisal and use externals 😐
or the wall and use no externals
either or
depends on MT strength
urban portal
damage legendary 🙂
gaunt dawn
or that yh
or hear me out roll the dice and throw down a bladestorm
and see what you proc
oblique garnet
@gaunt dawn can you give quick tanking tips for all the raid since theres a good chance i end up tanking next raid
urban portal
follow dbm
gaunt dawn
swap at 3
urban portal
dbm covers like 60% of tanking
jagged pier
There's really no boss that requires Shield Wall up enough that you should be pi...
Guardian if u dont have externals
gaunt dawn
remnant, see MS paint pic
urban portal
when i first started tanking i just blindly followed dbm
oblique garnet
remnant, see MS paint pic
Wat
gaunt dawn
the helm moves to a location and orbs will spawn opposite on teh same side
so you pre-position boss in relation to helm location
uh
i understand thats a p bad explaination
oblique garnet
Yeah that sounds like advanced tactics we dont do that here
oblique garnet
Yeah we just go ook ook and aim at balls and it works out
oblique garnet
Im not on pc
oblique garnet
oblique garnet
Its 10
gaunt dawn
so in this SS
the helm just moved
so i've moved the boss knowing that the orbs will spawn here
oblique garnet
Ok but why do you need to premove when you can just move the boss once the orbs spawn?
gaunt dawn
because you know where the orbs will spawn
so why not premove
it increases dps
follow up when the orbs spawned
diff angle but you can see its all one big L
gaunt dawn
not rly, melee is never completely blocked out
i increased dps from the hunters by having boss in position ready for cleave
shit melee will get hit by swirlies
oblique garnet
Fuck the hunters
gaunt dawn
D:
anyway, that's remnant
soulrender, swap at 1, if you're DK start on boss
Painsmith, if you're speedy start on boss
Guardian, what tank are you on?
oblique garnet
Warrior
gaunt dawn
What lego?
oblique garnet
Id be doing our palas job so taunting combos
gaunt dawn
for ease just play wall and shield wall + SR each combo
oblique garnet
On every boss id do what our pala does
Ill play maut trinket get those rank 1 hps logs
gaunt dawn
fatescribe (xd who does this boss anymore) swap @ 1. use something for each swap (short CD) save all big shit for intermission
KT save all big shit for intermission
Sylv get your pala to run through this
welcome to my ted talk
let's jump on into it
cinder nova
Guardian if u dont have externals
I don't think I've ever been in a Mythic raid without externals.
autumn pendant
Externals? Is that sequel to Eternals?
cinder nova
Yeah, which is why I said what I said. Optimizing around shitty play is suboptimal.
gaunt dawn
The only thing that is strat agnostic for sylv would be on first add platform in p2, get a dps to taunt goliath (with an immune of some sort) after the summoner/soulrender dies
to reset the stacks
oblique garnet
I don't think I've ever been in a Mythic raid without externals.
Iirc we had one sylv rekill where all we had was cocoon
oblique garnet
Yeah we have warriors
autumn pendant
Iirc we had one sylv rekill where all we had was cocoon
Did you have full shaman healing roster or what
oblique garnet
Yup
gaunt dawn
i called for GS yesterday 👀
oblique garnet
And mw
cinder nova
I mean, there's dudes clearing it with EM. Generally speaking, you're gonna be hard-pressed to find opportunities where Wall is outpacing the general usefulness of Reprisal. Guardian and maybe Sylv are the closest cases because they have pretty regular mechanics that can one-shot if you're not topped off or you're low.
The point was that this dude thought Wall was ideal on several bosses over Rep.
gaunt dawn
Sylv your lego choice depends on your p3 duty
cinder nova
Which is just not true.
cinder nova
I mean if you're tanking you could just go EM and clown.
Not like you're taking any real damage outside of Ranger's Heartseeker.
jagged pier
Yer but he aint that good on guardian im only just behind him on dps and im using the wall and he also gets a PI
U also have to stack crit to get benefit out of it
cinder nova
What, EM?
jagged pier
Yes em
cinder nova
I guess I'm just a meter monkey, then. I got 30% crit and 10% vers
I'm actively sniping Crit/Vers
I'm letting ITF fill in my Haste.
jagged pier
Meh i do the same/ more damage than most ppl running pure dps leggos, theres literally no need for them can be more tanky and do the same damage
cinder nova
I actually don't remember the last time I used Rep.
Pretty much since Cov leggos became a thing I've been rolling NF and EM.
I will say I've considered it on Soulrender.
He seems to hit way harder than most Mythic bosses.
gaunt dawn
Guardian + Tarragrue hit the hardest
Soulrender has a v slight overlap each tank swap
for 1 melee swing
have something up for each swap on Soulrender and you're fine
pallid musk
Soulrender you have to solo tank for entire 40 sec with Ruinblade debuff. I feel kinda hard to survive 40 sec with only shield block and not swap
- do one of the chains assigned grip which include external
A defensive trinket would help to survive in mid when SB uptime is about to recharge
Fatescribe as BDK is great - 70 % slow movement speed on mob.
I talking about heroic/mythic tank here 
Ignore DPS prase. Full tank and don’t cause a raid wipe. A tank or healer dies = raid wipe
😊
gaunt dawn
Soulrender you have to solo tank for entire 40 sec with Ruinblade debuff. I feel...
What?
gaunt dawn
yes i know what the debuff is
my inquiry was about your situation
as it seems entirely self made
pallid musk
Mm, yes i were wondering how to make the best effoct to tank with this debuff
gaunt dawn
swap after each hit
recast time is 35s
debuff duration is 40s
so you have 5s where you have a debuff and are tanking
but during those 5s
boss casts
so you take 1 melee hit
pallid musk
So the asap taunt swap or delay with a few second is best?
gaunt dawn
either works
i prefer to do it asap
as you're in control of that increased dmg window
fresh off of not tanking with a bunch of shit to burn
as a warrior you can IP ramp before the swap
and have a juiced shield for that empowered hit
jagged pier
Block should just be enough
pallid musk
Yes possibly IP and then taunt -> press SB. Make sure you had that one recharge
Of 2 SB
strong forum
THAT IS NOT
gaunt dawn
ah lovely, just noticed in the vod that OBS has the wrong mic
gaunt dawn
oh
pallid musk
Or supposed be born as deaf, waering hearing aids
gaunt dawn
i've looked through your logs already
😄
did you like how your soulrender strat changed this reset
pallid musk
Oh, how? 😅
gaunt dawn
your RL asked Mandl who then asked me to look at your logs
gaunt dawn
iirc you're now wiping to chains?
and not popping them fast enough
so you get the cone overlap
pallid musk
Yea, we wiping on chains or Dance
gaunt dawn
for dance i have this text WA i made on the right
shows all the possible dance combinations
so you know the rest of the dance after a few steps
mythic has 7 set patterns
heroic has 3?
pallid musk
I removed this WA because it were bugged but will use again when i can.
gaunt dawn
normal has 2
pallid musk
Ah, 4 new pattens?
gaunt dawn
they're all new
as none of them are left to right/right to left
each of those numbers relate to a section
can probs put in a WA request for a master/slave type WA for the combos
as an adaptation of like the fatescribe one
where one person inputs the combo
once its solved
pushes to all others
we didnt need it for prog/farm cos uh
we can hear
but i can see it being useful for you
pallid musk
Yes useful. I do intervene/ charge Soulrender and heroic leap. Some times we use wind speed totem / stampande
My goal has always been run to middle each reset of dance or stay in soulshape
Its kinda rough but manageable.
pallid musk
Would be petty cool if he fancy to help us.
gaunt dawn
or @tranquil wadi (if you're still taking requests)
south yarrow
fancy building a fancy WA for the Undaunted lads?
the who what now
gaunt dawn
The request brief would be 2 WA's:
User:
Display list of combinations
Each time leader inputs a combo step it will update for users.
Once only one solution remains only show that solution.
Leader:
Displays list, but with buttons above it.
Leader inputs steps to populate WA for users.
gaunt dawn
yeah but its only the leader part
south yarrow
Ahh
gaunt dawn
lemme find the wago link for that one
south yarrow
Sure
south yarrow
Does it need to eliminate combinations though? It's probably easier to just have 1-2-3-4 you can click
when the RL sees which one it is next
gaunt dawn
eliminating combinations would be a nice to have
like desaturating them
can also be real dirty and just read from RW
and leader one just sents out a RW like
SRH4
SRH1
south yarrow
Yeah that's what I did for the fatescribe P3 clicking
gaunt dawn
i know the reloe one does it all hidden like
south yarrow
typing shit in /raid is less of a headache than using addon channel
gaunt dawn
so like here for @pallid musk
i know what the full dance is gonna be whilst we're all in the first one
You can see 1 as the first bit
then you're watching 2/3
if its 2 then its 4-1-3
if its 3 then its 1-4-2
or if it ever starts with 3, there's only 1 sequence
👼
tardy sequoia
Guys do you advise doing the zol'ramus necromancer skip in NW?
the first one
after the tormented lieutenant
strong forum
Zol ramus?
Who dat
I know about nerzudah or w/e his name is, the one infront of the bridge, that one tends to be skipped on fort weeks I think... But is also pretty common to play him now
jagged pier
Who dat fuck os zol ramus?
ionic plank
I think he means the necromancer packs
the main guy that you kill is called 'zolramus necromancer' I think
ionic plank
Guys do you advise doing the zol'ramus necromancer skip in NW?
they give 1.5% for a whole ass pack of mobs
kinda bad to kill
yeah
even though you only dps the main guy you're still dealing with a whole pack for 1.5%
pallid musk
Rough pack with much magic damage.
Spell reflect is one i can figure out to make it more common to kill. With dk i could do this pack easy regardless key level. The Anti magic Shell + icebound fortitude but warrior is physical tanks
strong forum
If you're talking about nerzudah, you use anime orb there
pallid musk
Yes orb near goliath + Kyrian orb is helpful
sick sentinel
This probably sounds stupid question but I guess if dps is low a potential reason is not being in melee range enough cuz I'm not doing correct cds that would allow me to stay in melee all times? Like by not doing enough/correct sb/reflect/wall I'm just getting scared of some dmg that shouldn't matter and running out to kite?
pallid musk
The bleeding damage from revenge/ravange would be in tick
sick sentinel
Don't have 5 dom sockets but I do have 243 ilvl now, and I ran a second 13 dos with ideal kyrian rep talents, did 4.8k which is better, but still not where I want it like 6 k +
pallid musk
I do demo shout/Ravanage + Avatar on big packs
sick sentinel
Whatever I need to do to improve is what I have to learn I gues
pallid musk
Demo / Ravange is 45 sec cd together which is nice to increease damage
sick sentinel
Nerzudah if that's the nw guy he's a pain in the ass but he's just avoid swirls and reflect and interrupt
Kinda find the 2 skeleton warriors right after just as bad fort since they can cleave wipe your party not turned around
On a long narrow passage bridge too
pallid musk
I use berseker rage to remove the fear. Its near same with Dks Lichbone but shorter cd
And his swings hurt, yea
sick sentinel
I dunno say what you will about retarded dks and I believe the meme cuz I played with one for so long they are really handy to have around I'll say that
pallid musk
I dunno say what you will about retarded dks and I believe the meme cuz I played...
Sorry, what?
sick sentinel
Oh, you just mentioned dks, some people can't stand them
I love having them in groups, but not playing as one
pallid musk
Yes all tanks har their strengths and weaks
Warrior is really nice in outpost damage with Kyrian spear / Ravage/ Avatar
sick sentinel
Even as dps even uh don't enjoy their play style
pallid musk
You mean dk or warrior?
sick sentinel
Dk, I just can't do it for some reason chief
pallid musk
Why not?
sick sentinel
Same with monk, go into battle and fall over, have better understanding of warrior
pallid musk
Ah, understanding of a class. Have you Even tried join Acherus and ask any of their ””useful minion” ?
They’ll is very helpful
sick sentinel
14 mists today I think, black Friday might mean all the NPC wow players are out punching each other out over a Samsung TV for 550$ and I get all the good players in my keys staying home
200 iq
pallid musk
Here is the link, just pin Khazak if you’d play unholy or ask Mandl
I lvled a brewmaster 60 and it took a while before i understand the class
sick sentinel
I'm In that discord sever you linked just now already but I only lurk there
pallid musk
Once you procced the ”readme” and ”accept” rules you’ll be allow to ask
sick sentinel
Don't worry I know my way around a computer
Was playing games ever since cd wolf, wolf3d.exe in dos prompt
teal swift
If you're talking about nerzudah, you use anime orb there
Do you also use hammer?
Ive struggled with the Narzuhad + 2 maurder pull
and my group hates it
but i love th easy %
strong forum
Usually shouldn't need Hammer there
lofty widget
as long as you dispell ner zudahs immunity it will melt with the orb alone
viral arch
Do you also use hammer?
there are much much better uses of hammer
namely, amarth shields
wasting a hammer on nar'zhudah makes very little sense in the grand scheme of things as the orb deals with the dangerous part (when the other 3 casters are up)
sick sentinel
I have a giant weak aura pack for spell reflecting, and it shows a bar when said thing is cast and I put a electric noise on it, 2 things I want to get right about those weak auras is I'd like to set them so they can only activate if cast time is less than Sr uptime, that way I don't hit Sr on a 8 second cast, more dps
And going to add "try not to interrupt ABC bolted me if Sr icon is up" to dungeon mark announce
Saw one of you reflect 2m in spires jealou
ionic plank
the trick for spires is real simple, it's just shockwaving the etherwings mid-cast, which lines up their casts after the stun
and you can reflect every one of them at once
autumn pendant
Big dam
blazing condor
yeah when you wanna reflect the easiest way to get them to line up is like Chawie said
wait until one of them starts casting
shockwave them all
then they all line up
quaint rune
calling all chads, whats gonna net more overall dps, Kyrian seismic or Night fae leggo?
speed running 15s maybe up to 18s
sick sentinel
i never platyed it but i played NL and KY, NF is better dps
ionic plank
I mean, if you really want overall, probably a full crit build with EM, but it's way too early to say what tuning there is going to be
sick sentinel
i got 262 glory/rep going for KY legs soon for both arms and dual leggos eventual
quaint rune
i dont wanna buff my dps and lower healer dps at same time, so i dunno if crit will be overall faster
maybe it will be though fuck i dunno so many options
sick sentinel
hard to say if its really worth, ditching the 230 crafted socketed haste neck atm
drops me from shy of 35% to 30.something% haste
ionic plank
you dont need to make that decision now at all
the patch is a long, long way away
and no one knows how much things are gonna change before then
sick sentinel
its incredibly feasible to get all 4 covenants story completed and reknown 80, all that in say a week or so per cov from 40
first 10 or so are just instantly handed to you and you get to like 60-65 just by doing story lines
ionic plank
I'd already done the 4 story lines across my alts so was just torghast spam for me
sick sentinel
kinda forced to do story each time cuz you need story 8 to get the 3rd soulbind
ionic plank
kinda forced to do story each time cuz you need story 8 to get the 3rd soulbind
not if you've already done them though
sick sentinel
crap,
ionic plank
you only need to have done it once on your whole account to unlock everything
sick sentinel
cuz, well shit, i only ever did this guy and my mage, mage was necro, looked cool, but ability sucked so went kyrian
inland raft
Necro is only one havnt finished, been working on it on weekends
sick sentinel
i'm totally boned then, have to do all of reven and ardean lmaio
inland raft
Luckily was necro before so was already half way in
ionic plank
I've done nf and kyrian 5 or 6 times
and venthyr twice, necro twice
before launch of 9.1.5
so thank god I didnt have to re-do them for unlocks
strong forum
From what I've seen, NF is a tad bit ahead in overall
sick sentinel
i got stuck on the venthyr quest where you become a hired help goblin or some shit
strong forum
500ish dps, and alot more on spiteful weeks
inland raft
Ya i crafted the nf leggo for fun yesterday, it does more then i thought would
sick sentinel
and the csstume come off whenever it told me to go where i needed to so i said fuck this
strong forum
The leggo is the most dmg on ST, but seismic does still more, its moreso korayn being busted
inland raft
Ya seismic wins easily
But until they lift the restriction and allow us to run seismic and rep
sick sentinel
im going to craft vast majority of 262s with tokens around christmas/black friday
inland raft
sick sentinel
the good ones
quaint rune
seismic + night fae = wombo combo ?
strong forum
For biggest dick dmg yea
strong forum
Size matters 👏
ionic plank
blazing condor
nom is a size queen
strong forum
Fuck ya
inland raft
Plus 15 second lockdown
quaint rune
i just wanna slap the big dick around. and flex on 15s
inland raft
I play niya if im doing high keys but korayn is def busted in baby keys like low 20s and below
sick sentinel
i do NOT enjoy being fucked by the long dick of the law in 15-16 keys doing "not baby pulls"
strong forum
i just wanna slap the big dick around. and flex on 15s
The number to beat is 10.5k
quaint rune
10.5k as NF seismic?
sick sentinel
pull 10 guys and stay at 10% hp whole fight aint quite for me
odd tree
The number to beat is 10.5k
What dungeon?
strong forum
Mists
quaint rune
your dps were chads and pulled through the wall
strong forum
But any higher number will do, unless its NW cuz you didn't update details, that one doesn't count
quaint rune
my dps will be shitters
ionic plank
that's cracked
inland raft
My pally friend finished his nf renown farm so now he wants to go work on necrolord 😭 my blessings
Rip the fun
sick sentinel
i love inviting hunters to group, am crazy for hunter
quaint rune
this is true.
sick sentinel
hunters do lusty wusty and make things die really quick
quaint rune
in NW all the dudes in the necroplis targeted me to throw shit on me and i insta died.
jagged pier
I dont know what lvl the mists was late did
ionic plank
hunters don't do the lusty wusty because they only use dinosaur pets
and then die with turtle up
strong forum
I dont know what lvl the mists was late did
15
sick sentinel
whenvere i played hunter in BFA my strategy was stand at max possible distance so i'd not get hit by as much fire circles or cleave
sick sentinel
same with mage but bit battle mage, closer to melee range
jagged pier
The fuck is your server jesus
sick sentinel
same bro, i got 140k gold sittin here too
inland raft
Damn
strong forum
I wouldn't buy leggos until late 9.2 lol
jagged pier
Its like 60k for rank 6 on mine
inland raft
I thought i was ripped off on my alliance alt at 60k
strong forum
Rn leggos are way too expensive
pallid musk
58k.-70k on mine
sick sentinel
you wouldn't but i think i will, price not so bad RN
ionic plank
cheapest plate 262 was 90k
pallid musk
Too overprice
ionic plank
even 235s are like 80-90k
strong forum
I bought my 262 belt for like 30k lol
ionic plank
idk
strong forum
And my legs for 80k
quaint rune
im just gonna have to convince some fucken crafter to hook me up.
strong forum
And that was already expensive
ionic plank
yeah fuck that, I'm not making any legendaries for now
inland raft
I started xpac with 2 gold capped chars so i just buy but ya leggos have been insane idk how a lot of players do it
sick sentinel
ionic plank
