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distant crystal
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reported for excessively slow gif

strong forum
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There was even an arms war in top for incarnation

short kiln
tropic gorge
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I didn't realize details could show spec and cov

dark lark
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The cov is a separate addon

tropic gorge
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I'm gonna have to dig into it's options

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What's it called? I'd like to have it

tropic gorge
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Tyvm

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loads ajour

mellow bridge
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didnt know they were doing 190 ilvl challenge

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kappa

mighty valley
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what the hell happened

strong forum
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So it's a bit leftover dmg from finishing something else off

modern brook
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Happens alot when there are adds that Despawn when something dies

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Ie 2nd boss hoa or from that picture literally all of the pf bosses

upbeat rain
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Anyone got a Shield Block WA?

dark lark
upbeat rain
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thanks!

north rampart
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thanks guys, had a look at some mdi mists/tops was inspiring

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what makes warriors good in mists?

lofty widget
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more or less exclusively a blockable dmg profile and battle shout for the dps

mellow bridge
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And our dmg pattern working out well in the maze

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They play high crit with elysian legendary, bv and mikanikos

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So it's yuge burst

teal swift
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Finally timed an 18

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Why do I still wanna die 😐

urban portal
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Wtf 6.7k hunter

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9.0 numbers

wind bolt
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Pala too

distant crystal
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maybe it's like

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theater

teal swift
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my dps is giga bad

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5k as a prot warrior

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/wrists

urban portal
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Still 9.0 numbers tho from bm

wind bolt
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What dungeon was it

teal swift
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ToP

urban portal
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Tank dps is fine

distant crystal
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called it keksquad

teal swift
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< The tank

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I pull 5k in pretty much every key though

distant crystal
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if that was mists you'd be like 7k and they'd be 10-11

wind bolt
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Nah

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Not 11

teal swift
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Its just depressing

wind bolt
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Why

teal swift
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everything is depressing

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idk what i can do better

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to help us get keys more consistently.

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I want my 20's done.

wind bolt
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Just practice man

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You’ll get there

north rampart
lofty widget
north rampart
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do they use the rage from bv for Ip spam to survive the gigapulls or just more damage?

lofty widget
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i assume it lines up with every spear for even more dmg to stack with the EM leggo

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and since they arent playing rep bsc loses some of its value anyway

teal swift
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for some reason it murders my FPS

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and causes bad stutters

lofty widget
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sounds like an old hard drive gone bad or a very big log file

mellow bridge
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It just adds more dmg than bsc in a build like that

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BSC without reprisal is not better even without a burst build like they play

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And then on top of that, the bv just enhances the burst even more

urban portal
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Also snap threat

north rampart
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i imagine snap threat is important with those mdi pulls lol

sick sentinel
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a bad sanguine can delete a key fast

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like if you sanguine the elite in halls

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yeah, time for new pc or new pc parts

blazing condor
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Halls is probably the one dg where sang actually sucks

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Where the shard can do their aoe and heal up to full

sick sentinel
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This came on steam for a dollar already beat it on Xbox years ago, but it's still as good now as it was then

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It's fucking perfect.

teal swift
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@jagged pier

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improving.

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They pulled fatescribe while my avatar was on CD

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then i used it again 2s before first intermission

strong forum
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49sec KT kill, seems legit

teal swift
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@mellow gorge Yuzu never sleeps

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How are you

teal swift
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It's now a 91

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Lost 200dps lol

teal swift
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@jagged pier what's uptime of SB in keys with hr and reprisal

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It's like 92% isn't it?

jagged pier
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your blocked hits should be 905+ uptime i dunno u should never look at uptime

teal swift
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That's what I thought

glossy wasp
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What is it under in logs to find blocked hits

mellow bridge
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dmg taken

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hover with your mouse over the dmg source

strong forum
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hover over hits*

glossy wasp
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I see

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Ty

short kiln
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I did some baby meme keys last night to help carry some guild alts, and actively raced and beat the frost mage in dps. It's kinda cheating though when I just keep pulling the mobs out of blizzard and away from the frozen orbs. Was laughing nearly the entire time. Ran BV and EM leggo for extra pads since I haven't made seismic yet. Sometimes you need to refresh your sense of joy in this game. :)

blazing condor
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its true peepoHappy

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play what you enjoy and have fun with

bright flax
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I had a guy take the 2nd orb in NW, i felt empty inside :(

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He used it on the big pull above, got aggro and died, i smurkedq

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But still feel sad

blazing condor
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does it even pull aggro?

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ive never had that issue

lofty widget
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it doesnt gen threat, no

bright flax
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Guess he pumped hard, he was good, better than me

sick sentinel
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i wish that this new group finder they were introducing also displayed covenant, spec while you were looking at them in qeue, possibly with option to tick "need battlerez/need lust/cov" and applicants can see all this information for other players in the group (currently if browsing for group shows the leader only)

echo canyon
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taking a haste /mastery ring or a crit/versa for m+ ?

sick sentinel
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mastery just isn't appealing to us

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crit/versa better normally

echo canyon
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ok

jagged pier
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no

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haste ring is better

mellow gorge
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also haste bis

jagged pier
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it doesnt have the same benfit as vers

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and its also rng

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but it does increase damage yes

strong forum
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Haste/mast ring is generally better

sick sentinel
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the halls one?

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if so, i had it at end of halls 12 dk said he wanted it, already have the dos h/m ring

jagged pier
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u want haste on both your rings over any other stat

sick sentinel
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heres what i got going on

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never really ben much of raider

worthy karma
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I’m stuck if I actually want to pug for 2300

sick sentinel
tropic gorge
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Lol

outer onyx
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Any good videos/guides to see the dungeons timings where u should use the CD def or learn which spells to prio kick ? I would like to start tanking in M+

mellow gorge
teal swift
balmy coral
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Do for M+ I am focusing on increasing massive healing, while destroying the meters

teal swift
# outer onyx Any good videos/guides to see the dungeons timings where u should use the CD def...
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@reef coral has a solid guide that explains most shit, even if for wrong tank spec

balmy coral
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So this is my soulbinbd tree

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I am running a 239 aegis+239 RDM 600 crit 700 haste 500 vers

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My PF+15 I did 2.2k HPS (Just added the condensed anima cell over the armorment, and 5.3k DPS

teal swift
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@balmy coral wtb rdm

teal swift
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F5 - bop removal
F12 - call steward

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How about you keyvinds?

wooden spruce
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how are prot warrs doing now? im coming back to retail because my old guild is reforming and rerolling horde (not sure what race yet, prob tauren for looks), but i played a lot on nathria and some +14 keystones, but i dont know if i should transfer my main or reroll monk/dk; i love warrs for looks and skills but also want to go with whatever is the best for my guild, atm we dont have any warrior

teal swift
blazing condor
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We are incredibly solid rn

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Any tank can be #1 though

wooden spruce
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Thats a good advice. Thb, i dont wanna play dk again because i know how strong they are but also they are too boring, bears too; tanking on m+ with reprisal makes it so much fun will being chunky

On 9.0 i rerolled dk and cleared more content because of time, but i have tried all the tanks and i still love warrs skills, looks and most importantly, the fact that they are the only class that doesnt need spells or magic, just a big shield, chunky armor and a good weapon to face a scary demigod

teal swift
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My guild lets me play prot warrior

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Instead of having me switch to vdh

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Play what YOU want to play.

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If your guilsies are your friends rheyll let you. It's unlikely your guild is at the point where it matters

wooden spruce
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Im the gm, and they know how i tank, so they dont mind, im prob just overthinking about what i should tank but wanted to ask for some advice first hehe

urban portal
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Play whatever you want

teal swift
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Play what makes you happy.

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Warrior makes me happy

wooden spruce
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will do 😄

teal swift
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Warrior damage in keys, wish I could pull like 9k

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Like prot paladins can

jagged pier
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u can

teal swift
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I tried :(

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Failed this 18 mist

jagged pier
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well with a shammy doign 5.7 u will

teal swift
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Shouldn't been easy as fuxk

jagged pier
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not with low dps

teal swift
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I know I'll get my 20s I'm good enough to do it.

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It's just depressing failing keys I shouldnt

blazing condor
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just dont fail keys

teal swift
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Like, idk

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I can only control my play

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Guess i gotta learn how to path for a +20 with 4 people 😦

strong forum
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That's how all group content goes

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Make it the most idiot proof possible

teal swift
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I feel like I'm the idiot, but I'm kinda... Just not ..

strong forum
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There's always someone dumber

teal swift
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Wisest line in the franchise.

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But really, I feel like I'm complete garbage. But my damage seems decent, my damage intake is smooth, and my pathijg isn't terrible.

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Can I just blame it on the retard shaman?

sick sentinel
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maybe

digital arch
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guys, im back as nf only for mog haha

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but what is the better legendary for tank as nf?

teal swift
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Damage or Defense or in middle?

digital arch
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damage as tank

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im 249 ilvl

teal swift
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Covenant legendary

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Is highest DPS on a lot of fights

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Followed by reprisal which has some defensive value

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And then the wall which is well a wall

digital arch
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The wall is for defensive?

brittle owl
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the wall is mostly a defensive option for raiding

digital arch
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I use this 262

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ill do the other from dps so

brittle owl
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reprisal is solid

digital arch
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what do u mean with this?

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Sorry for ask, but what is the better soulbind?

brittle owl
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i mean it's good

jagged pier
digital arch
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i was kyrian but got boring

jagged pier
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its still repsial for high keys

teal swift
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Reprisal for high keys, because the uptime on SB during combat is pretty big, as well as super rage gen

digital arch
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where do i craft the legendary from nf? what equipament is better?

jagged pier
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its the same place as kyrian

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nothing changes

digital arch
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i didnt have this when i was kirian

jagged pier
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legs

digital arch
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ty!

jovial mesa
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@digital arch Nature's Fury (NF Legendary) only goes on Wrist/Hands/Back so you'll have to go for a cloak

jagged pier
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yes but hes asking for keys nto raid

digital arch
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oooh

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okkay

jagged pier
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and i wouldnt even recommend NF in raid until your comfortable in the raid fights

jovial mesa
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its the same anyways you never want to lose out on domination socket slots in m+ as well if you are tank

teal swift
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It's much easier to use

jagged pier
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no

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repsial is better on 8/10 of the fights

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and its about equal in 1 of the others

jovial mesa
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Yep its either Reprisal or Covenant Legendary for DPS

jagged pier
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repisal for defence is better on 8/10 fights

jovial mesa
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the SB uptime is definitely more more useful than two extra casts of SW per Fight

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and you also have better rage generation

teal swift
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They can't charge weave for shit

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Wall gonna give more rage lol

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What are the two btw

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Is one of them the eye?

jagged pier
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no if u intervene while tanking not even charge weave its better

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because of the block

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and the eye and slyv

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slyv its equal ish because of the job warriors usally fall into

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andu literally have to charge back to boss or charge to mobs all the time in the raid

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u very rarly have to chargeweave thats more for maximizing damage from it

teal swift
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Fair

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I wanna make the wall for eye

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Mythicbeye feels kinda shit

distant kestrel
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can some1 tell me why Aegis trinket is so good? seen it rise in popularity in higher keys and MDI but io dont feel like its dat good imo idk

jagged pier
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its uncapped damage redution

teal swift
jagged pier
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its not an absorb

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theres an absorb component

teal swift
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It shows up on healing meter for all the damage deflects

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What's difference between absorb and reduction, literally same thing lol

jagged pier
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no

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an absorb will absorb damage be doesnt change the number

teal swift
jagged pier
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a DR will reduce the number then u actually take the new number

teal swift
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Has word absorb on it

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Idgsf I'ma use that

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Quantity of damage is defined as absorb on the trinket itself, while describing it as a damage reduction per hitm

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Absorb is accurate

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And shows up on healing meters so /sheug

distant kestrel
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and when would u use Aegis instead of Scale or viceversa? (m+ situation)

jagged pier
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scale

sweet summit
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you'd always use aegis over scale in m+
if you're using scale it's either because you a) don't have aegis or b) you're using both

teal swift
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Wtb rsm

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RDM

distant kestrel
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tyy guys

strong forum
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In any situation where there are alot of dmg events happening, that's where aegis is better

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Aka m+ cuz of so many mobs pulled, or say you have a dot ticking on you like on sylvanas

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In those situations aegis ramps up insane amounts of mitigated damage

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Upwards of 250k+ per use

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Whereas scale is hardcapped to 90-100k per use on 5 targets

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And scale has a longer CD, but does more damage

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This is the full tldr to aegis vs scale @distant kestrel

mellow gorge
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so what you're saying is

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aegis is useless cause it doesn't deal dmg

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got it

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chucking it away forever

sick sentinel
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Some dudes I ran with last night on a 12 , just didn't do the final boss teleport way healer wanted, have like 5 minutes on time and then healers throwing huge bitch fit

strong forum
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If your goal is dealing damage, yes aegis is pretty bad unless you can aim it's proc like a god

sick sentinel
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Like it's just a fuckin game and just a 12 right ?

strong forum
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The dmg part of aegis is uncapped aswell, but the angle at which its hitting is tiny, thus making it deal not as much dmg cuz you miss 90%of the time

mellow gorge
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tf kind of angle is that

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that i need to aim to hit

strong forum
mellow gorge
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oh easy

sick sentinel
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I'm getting tired of playing with raging incel losers

mellow gorge
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i'd join ya

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but we can't be both tanks sadly 😦

strong forum
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Uh, you can

mellow gorge
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the server is not big enough

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for 2 prot warrior tanks

strong forum
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Wait till you see the 4prot dungeon we did

mellow gorge
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the poor healer

sick sentinel
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No rule against 5 healer m+

strong forum
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5 healer m+ could be... Interesting

sick sentinel
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Just,I wouldn't be surmised then

strong forum
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Lots of dying

mellow gorge
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you know i'm still surprised

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i watched a bdk solo a 22 SD

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which was very impressive

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made me want to level a bdk

strong forum
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36hr key!!

sick sentinel
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Still I've just about had enough cuz it's only a video game to me

strong forum
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Yeah that's understandable

mellow gorge
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ya just need to find a chill group and stick w em

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a helpful way is to find those who play underplayed specs

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they are usually good and chill

sick sentinel
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Play for decades but I won't hesitate to quit and delete rest of my chars if community keeps turning on itself like that

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I'm not a fucking punching bag

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Won't allow my self to be mazed forever

plush tendon
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once you get over the yoyoing health bar

mellow gorge
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now the question is

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would a dark iron dwarf death knight

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be cool 🤔

plush tendon
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Female Nelf

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duh

mellow gorge
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ew

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disgusting

plush tendon
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Dark Iron Dwarf though is probably a good alliance pick

mellow gorge
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i mean i'm trying to pick between

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kul tiran

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and dark iron dwarf

plush tendon
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if you care about silly things like racial abilities

mellow gorge
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on one hand, big kul tiran but beer belly

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on the other hand, dark iron dwarf but beard is on fire for a death knight?

plush tendon
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Just be blood

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and then lore it like, naw that beard is on fire from the blood of my enemies

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duh

mellow gorge
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i mean i will tank

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not planning on dps

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and to be fair, the racial armor set for dark iron is better than kul tiran

plush tendon
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better yet, go Horde and be a Vulpera

mellow gorge
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fucking

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disgusting

plush tendon
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I know.... but theres no denying it..... Vulpera are strong

mellow gorge
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i don't want a shitty vulpera

strong forum
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Lol DO NOT

mellow gorge
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i don't care what it gives me, i'm not playing a godamn furry

strong forum
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PLAY KULTIRAN

mellow gorge
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kul tiran rogue

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there

strong forum
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You'll hate everything about yourself

mellow gorge
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atleast the heritage armor would look cool on a rogue

plush tendon
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Go Dark Iron

strong forum
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Yeah more awesome npc armor that looks like nothing at all

plush tendon
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they got movement speed

strong forum
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Dark iron atleast is useful

plush tendon
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while indoors

strong forum
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Cuz of fireblood

plush tendon
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OPOPOP

mellow gorge
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tbf

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on a bdk

strong forum
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kultiran rly is just bad

mellow gorge
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more movement speed isn ice

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idk mane, 1% innate verse means

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a whopping 0.5% dmg reduction

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dunno man, sonuds kinda strong

plush tendon
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BDK follows the same rule as War except to a greater extreme..... STATS DO NOT MATTER

strong forum
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Pretty sure he was being sarcastic

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👀

plush tendon
mellow gorge
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now

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for the hardest of choices

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what hair color

plush tendon
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Red

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duh

strong forum
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White

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Always white

plush tendon
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like a nice dark red

mellow gorge
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white seems a bit off

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with all that color change

strong forum
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White is perfect??

mellow gorge
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i look like a RB gandalf

plush tendon
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actually, pretty good

plush tendon
strong forum
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When I was playing dwarf for 12 years

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It was always white hair

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Anything else looked wrong

mellow gorge
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i mean dwarf is meant to be old

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black is quite fitting though

strong forum
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Na looks too young

mellow gorge
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fair

strong forum
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Doesn't mesh with me idk

mellow gorge
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can't argue with that

plush tendon
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red

mellow gorge
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nah

strong forum
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Red removes the emphasis from the fire beard

mellow gorge
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red is too lively

plush tendon
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crimson

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burgundy

strong forum
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You need contrast

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Red - red doesn't have contrast

mellow gorge
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welp there

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made my lil ol dark iron dwarf death knight

plush tendon
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what Cov you gonna go

mellow gorge
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necro

plush tendon
mellow gorge
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i might even swap my prot warrior to necro

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after .5

plush tendon
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I went back NF on my Prot

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for raid I prefer it

mellow gorge
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ah you see

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i don't do raid

plush tendon
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but raiding is fun copium

mellow gorge
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not when pugging no

plush tendon
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especially when raid leading

mellow gorge
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hmm

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apparently venthyr is better

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for bdk

plush tendon
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it dont matter

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Venthyr is best for AoE hps

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because of all the runic power

mellow gorge
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hps?

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ah

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i mean from what i'm reading

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downside of necro is 2 min cd

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downside of venthyr non existant

plush tendon
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Venthyr suffers from target count

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you need 5 targets to get full benefit

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but super strong in AoE cause its basically full runic power bar

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Slappy Hands has play making ability and always gives 9 boneshield stacks

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but can troll you hard (mistcaller vulpine)

mellow gorge
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uh

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wait wait so

plush tendon
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Slappy is also going uncapped in 2 days

mellow gorge
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ah

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so necro it is

plush tendon
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I would give both a go

mellow gorge
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tbf i like the dungeon buff from

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all revendreth

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they are very srong

plush tendon
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I will say, the chinese BDK has done the top keys from both Necro and Venthyr

mellow gorge
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while necro buffs seem lack luster

plush tendon
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It is a pain to open urns in SD as tank

mellow gorge
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on one hand

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true

plush tendon
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granted, 9.1.5 in 2 days, play both 😄

mellow gorge
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need to level

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first

plush tendon
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Slappy is more fun while leveling

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at least when I did it at the start

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Also, dont discredit how awesome gripping everything around you is

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all those pulls with casters that make prot war cry cause you cant group, no longer a problem with a DK

mellow gorge
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true

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true

plush tendon
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but fo sure give both a go

mellow gorge
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there's not a whole lot of good two handed mogs

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damn

plush tendon
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DK artifact weps aint bad

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and you can use both Unholy and Blood for Tmog

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plus, Venthyr and Necro weapon mogs are good

mellow gorge
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i could just go for the black hand

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tbf

plush tendon
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would fit the Dark Iron look

mellow gorge
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yeap

glossy wasp
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should i go vers mast neck or haste mast neck, currently sitting at 15% haste and 22% vers

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thinking haste for sure

mellow gorge
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haste

sick sentinel
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most people here seem to be stacking haste

glossy wasp
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yea more sbock

sick sentinel
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people here might argue that you have way too much versa

mellow gorge
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more sbock

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shieldslam

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and thunderclep

glossy wasp
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more dam

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more tclap

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more fun

mellow gorge
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yes

iron forum
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Thunderclap doesn't do dam though

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It heals the mobs

mellow gorge
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it's something alright

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it does rage D:

glossy wasp
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rage and did like 10% of dungeon damage

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its something for sure

mellow gorge
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10%?

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that's uh

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a bit too high

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for tclap

glossy wasp
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ye its just a 16 tho so not that weird

mellow gorge
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10%?

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still too high

glossy wasp
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sorry i rounded up 8% xd

mellow gorge
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ok that sounds more reasonable

glossy wasp
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tired brain

mellow gorge
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f ai r

sick sentinel
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BFA was better cuz you could simply be chad thunderclap and win at everything

chilly brook
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I mean

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You actually had to press your buttons in BFA or you died

teal swift
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@jagged pier Fucking kill me

lime urchin
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98 FPS 😮

teal swift
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Its called at 100 lol

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capped*

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I just want to push my key

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faield another 17

ocean reef
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Those are some unusually low overalls

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Only way I could see them be that low is if you'd pull 1 mob at a time, or if they barely use their CDs

ionic fern
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The only unusual one is the Hunter.
The rest is what i'd expect from your average pug in ~+17

jagged pier
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i dont expect even that dps from pugs tbh

chilly brook
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Wonder if that means you can get the full amount of soul ash/cinders per wing

jagged pier
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i mean u can just run it endlessly to get them anyway

teal swift
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V.V

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What's the optimal way to pull the insect section?

I pull stag pack with tormentor, then right and left bug packs with flies, then all 3, then on other side if needed.

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Idk how much more aggressively I can pull in a mists :/

ionic fern
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Ardenweald is just one big pull.

#

Well, technically probably 3 or 4.

#

But you should pull pretty big there if the affixes allow for it.
The damage they do is pretty much all blockable.

teal swift
#

Mists should be free, but like 3 pulled insect section, maybe I should pull incinerator and 3rd pack

#

And the little black fuckers with the pull by tree

#

Maybe thrashers with oros

#

I don't wanna be the person to just blame others. I'm trying to find solutions I can directly control

blazing condor
#

for me in ardenweald, without skipping in mechagon and grabbing extra%, is like - pull first 4 packs -> pull tormentor plus spriggans -> pull a bunch of birds and stag on urn -> pull all but matriarch down to the boss

teal swift
#

This is mists not dos

lofty widget
#

you can double/triple pull everything in that last part, just make sure you never get more than 1 staghorn

#

shields+healing will be too much to kick

jagged pier
#

maybe your pulls are a bit small this a 15 and these were bad pugs

teal swift
#

How the fuck

#

Did you pull 9.6k

#

What the fuck am I doing wrong

brittle owl
#

pull everything, press all cd's, zug zug, profit

jagged pier
#

i just press buttons

teal swift
#

Jakey hmu with your routes or some shit

#

Idk I need to get better.

brittle owl
#

he has vids on youtube ykno

jagged pier
#

they arent recent

#

but the route hasnt changed much

brittle owl
#

also no audio

#

💢

jagged pier
#

why would i put audio

#

not like a talk

#

or

#

have game sound

brittle owl
#

at least put 2007 pvp video music

jagged pier
#

i dont like that music

blazing condor
#

there's like no variance in mists

#

its incredibly linear

#

play normally to maze then just pulll big every other pull or so

#

or just pull big in general after

jagged pier
#

just double pull the slugs

teal swift
#

I cant

#

Actually you think rsndoms can manage multiple stags

blazing condor
#

yes

teal swift
#

Maybe I should pull the entire room

ocean reef
#

Yes

blazing condor
#

i dont think

#

i know

teal swift
#

Tormentor, then all bugs.

jagged pier
#

u can double pull so theres only every 1 slaghorn

ocean reef
#

After the first pack with tormentor, go left then double pull the first pack to the left and theh right

teal swift
#

My last group missed a couple.

#

I did tormentor first pack, left and right, then everything to boss

ocean reef
#

It's not too bad to interrupt 2 stags, depending on how good you are at dodging and focusing on the casts

teal swift
#

Still wasn't fast enough

#

Idk wtf to do

blazing condor
#

you can always just Arcane torrent or whatever

#

if interrupts dont go through

ocean reef
#

Assuming you got a belf with you

blazing condor
#

yes

#

idk ive never had any issues so i can't really reflect much on it

jagged pier
#

belfs dont press torrnet

#

the amount of DHs that dont do the small adds at the start

ocean reef
#

When I played belf it was perma on CD

jagged pier
#

is astonding

teal swift
#

People tell me I'm not holding the team back. But so many keys break. I must be common denominator no?

jagged pier
#

thats pugging

ocean reef
#

It's hard to say simply by looking at the overalls

jagged pier
#

u think i time all my keys

blazing condor
#

thats like what m+ is all about

sweet summit
#

my fucking 2head brain uses belf for resources and not for utility

teal swift
#

I can try to start recording video

ocean reef
#

Assuming the overall you linked up above is your typical key, then yeah it's not too surprising you're struggling with timing keys

teal swift
#

That's my typical damage

#

Warrior and rogue go higher

#

If we actuslly get good pacing

lofty widget
#

more like youre competing with a hunter on dps

ocean reef
#

At some point you should look at how the DPS are doing on their own

#

And not just you

#

A hunter doing 5.6k overall is quite bad

teal swift
#

I pulled out of wild spirits at least once

ocean reef
#

And at 240+ ilvl, you should do 8-9k+ overall regardless of spec, unless you're a fire mage or venth boomie then it's a bit more understandable

#

One wild spirits isn't gonna make them do thousands of DPS less on the overall

jagged pier
#

not yours

ocean reef
#

I'm speaking in terms of DPS classes

teal swift
#

Hmm, I need to figure out what I'm doing wrong

lofty widget
#

talking about dps'ers

jagged pier
#

your dps's

teal swift
#

Jakey out here pulling 9.6k

#

If I could do that

#

Keys would go so much better

jagged pier
#

yes but im overgeard and comfortable enough to run siesmic

#

which makes tanking a lot harder

teal swift
#

I should try thst

#

My damage intake is currently extremely smooth

ocean reef
#

Just because you do more damage =/= more timed keys per say

teal swift
#

Next week I'll craft it

#

How thicc is seismic?

ocean reef
#

It could help it but not really solve the issue of the actual DPS classes doing little damage

lofty widget
#

i wouldnt recommend seismic for push keys

jagged pier
#

if your struggling to time keys getting siemic wont fix anything

#

it will more than likely actually make it harder for u to time keys

blazing condor
#

it'd be incredibly weird if the reason you dont time keys is because of tank dps

teal swift
#

It's what I can control

ocean reef
#

That is some ultra stupid high keys you'd be talking about where the tank would have to do more DPS to time it

teal swift
#

Obviously I'd like a 12k DPS ww monk

#

Instead of the hunters 5.6

#

But I'd I could bump mine up a bunch, it'll help time more keys.

#

All Yuzu can control is Yuzu.

blazing condor
strong forum
#

its so weird to me

lofty widget
#

getting more comfortable using reprisal and knowing when you can revenge a lot can easily add 2k overall dmg in that mists for example

strong forum
#

that i can do 6k dps as a 200 ilvl havoc

#

and then theres 240 geared pugs

#

who cant do that

teal swift
#

I actually want to just kms

ocean reef
#

The difference is you know what your class does

#

And how to use CDs

#

They don't

#

Pressing your buttons in a right order also helps

teal swift
#

I need to figure out how to fix this shit

#

Once I'm playing perfectlt

ocean reef
#

At some point you can't do much else

teal swift
#

I'll feel comfortable to solely blame others.

ocean reef
#

And you need to have your DPS to step it up

teal swift
#

Perfect route, thicc damage, smooth intake

ocean reef
#

Don't blame others but help them improve

#

If they're genuinely struggling to play their class, either directing them to someone that knows about their class to help them, or helping them find out how to play it better with them, is gonna do wonders

#

The 2nd indirectly would also help you as a tank to figure out later down the line how to pull around classes and their CDs

jagged pier
#

<@&257983573498265600>

strong forum
#

kill

#

🔫

ocean reef
#

Shoot on sight

#

Let me get the Nitro first then shoot

mellow gorge
#

lads quick question

teal swift
#

Go away

mellow gorge
#

when i'm leveling when can i do random dungeons in bfa

blazing condor
#

mods

teal swift
#

Can't @ionic fern

#

Help?

autumn pendant
#

It is done

jagged pier
#

i could stream my keys for ppl KEKW

strong forum
#

I could say something mean now

#

But yes it would be interesting to see for a few folks

jagged pier
strong forum
#

No

#

It would be, "all they would see would be a bad ui"

jagged pier
#

TRUE

#

KEKW

#

i know my ui is trash but it works for me

strong forum
#

Ik

ionic fern
#

Are you doing keys now @jagged pier ?

blazing condor
#

I used to stream my keys to an audicence who dont play the game peepoHappy

jagged pier
#

im not even logged in

#

why u wanna do one?

ionic fern
#

My monk still needs a 15

jagged pier
#

suppose i can better now than late on a tuesday

ionic fern
#

I'll log on

mellow gorge
#

lads for levelling i need to be 15 to queue for random dungeons right?

sweet summit
#

i think so?

blazing condor
#

No i think its 10

jagged pier
#

thats bgs

blazing condor
#

I can queue dungeons on a level 10

#

Maybe not random ones tho

#

But like i can do atal dazar and freehold

jagged pier
#

well yer but u only really want rando dungeons

#

cause xp

distant crystal
#

halloween MDI abusing the brooms keksquad

blazing condor
#

idk i cant check cus no game time

#

but im pretty sure you can queue random

#

but maybe not

sick sentinel
#

i got the main mount from that so no reason for me to go any more, i don't use the broom really

distant crystal
#

yeah i got all the mounts n mogs

#

if i was playing the game actively and also not a druid main i'd prob get the broom

strong forum
#

I mean broom takes like 0.1sec to get

#

<@&257983573498265600>

#

Seriously

plush tendon
#

lets go bear crew!

#

🧸

dark lark
#

i love both nerf and dorki

sweet summit
strong forum
dark lark
#

Yoda managing to stop the final guessing game was so pivotal

cinder nova
#

Only a 16, but I'm proud of the meme overall

dark lark
#

that's a sad fury warrior

cinder nova
#

Oh yeah

sick sentinel
#

Guys, I have a question about focusing gateway and the mouse over it to activate it

#

my macro is fine but I cannot click on my focus' portait and activate it

jagged pier
#

on wednesday it will not matter

sick sentinel
#

I know 😄

sweet summit
#

you need a "interact with mouseover" keybind

#

then mouseover the focus frame and click that keybind

ionic fern
#

Oh, we gaming. I got my 2nd 2hander.

#

Big fury main

sweet summit
#

large

urban portal
#

Since I have a 220 weapon

#

For 1h

#

Me switching to 252 2h to execute does more damage

#

It's kinda funny

blazing condor
#

why yes i play fury how could you tell?

sweet summit
jagged pier
#

ergas hands confirmed

woven laurel
#

is bolster still a good talent?

sweet summit
#

it's still the same but not used

woven laurel
#

why isnt it used

sweet summit
#

because reprisal exists

jagged pier
#

and if u want more block HR is better with rep

brittle owl
woven laurel
#

unnerving focus gives it alot of value tho no?

sweet summit
#

"a lot" sure

#

but anger management is better offensively and defensively than bolster with reprisal

woven laurel
#

I usually use AM was just curious about that thanks

runic sparrow
#

need to test it more to confirm though

woven laurel
#

interesting

#

do i want to only use revenge when its free or need a rage dump?

runic sparrow
#

pretty much whenever you dont have another button to push and you dont need to hold onto rage for some reason

blazing condor
#

as long as you can use shield block when its up you can just spam revenge tbh

#

but you'd still use SS and TC

woven laurel
#

got it thanks

#

just trying to optimize gameplay the most i can lol

#

in m+

sick sentinel
#

in my experience its dead key week

woven laurel
#

ive had a pretty good week so far

outer onyx
#

My tanks (playing DPS ATM) seems to have a pretty fine week yeah

ionic fern
#

Storming/Sangugine do almost nothing unless you mess up positioning so you literally only have 2 affixes with Tyrannical/Tormented.

jagged pier
#

like literally easiest week

#

and dont say oh sanguine

#

i was doing some mega pulls with no issue earlier

plush tendon
#

Good week, but its the week before new patch so ded week

outer onyx
#

Yeah, just ask ur frost mage to not play the 10% extra slows and all will be fine :p

digital arch
#

guys what is the best soulbind for protection nf?

#

im using nyia

sweet summit
#

korayn for keys

digital arch
#

oooh nice

#

ill change so

sick sentinel
#

havent decided if i want to go venth or nf main 2nd cov

#

what are you guys planning to use the 40 boost on

lofty widget
#

you can use it on all the covenants afaik

distant crystal
#

mmm really? i thought it was just one but BOA

sweet summit
#

i'm gonna try kyrian at least once

primal cape
#

what would be the best between phial246 and ows246 ?

jagged pier
#

for damage phial for a bit of both ows

digital arch
#

249 finally!

distant crystal
outer onyx
sick sentinel
#

way i understood it was you could buy a boa thing for 500g

#

and that gave 1 cov lvl 40

mellow bridge
#

yes

#

but you can level every cov with that

outer onyx
#

So if another cov is already 20 can you up it to 60 or will it cap at 40 ?

strong forum
#

cap is 40

#

your renown wont increase by 40, it will set your renown to 40

burnt pawn
#

hey i see a lot of ppl playing HR for sylv mythic is there any reason to do this_

#

?

strong forum
#

No

#

They play it cuz it Sims higher

#

But not relevant amounts

burnt pawn
#

ahh okay

#

wait how does that work

#

how would hr do more than am

strong forum
#

Cuz SB increases SS dmg

burnt pawn
#

ohhhh right

strong forum
#

But it's such tiny amounts

burnt pawn
#

yea i prefer am playstyle too so ill just keep running that then for now

strong forum
#

Defensible AM is 100x better

#

And offensively it's pretty much the same

burnt pawn
#

kinda what i figured too

#

shield wall is kinda big on this

#

the cdr is really nice

strong forum
#

The natural SB uptime is plenty for sylv

#

More access to SW is bis

distant crystal
strong forum
#

Dafuq is this

burnt pawn
#

ill keep doing my am shenanigans then

distant crystal
#

i guess it's more useful for dps/heals but just shows when ppl pressed buttons

#

in the top 50 parses

strong forum
#

Lots of bloat

#

Too much info

#

To give a fuck

distant crystal
#

you can turn spells on/off at the top

strong forum
#

Ye but still

#

I never bothered checking timelines

#

Other than when people just didn't use buttons

#

Is better for dps/healers cuz they have actual CD rotations

mellow gorge
#

egh i want a weapon upgrade for my warr

#

how am i gonna deal damage if i have a shitty 226 weapon

strong forum
#

Tru

mellow gorge
#

btw which is better

#

weightstone or lightless force oil

strong forum
#

Either

#

Makes literally 0.1% difference

#

Weightstone does 0.01% more on aoe

#

Oil does 0.01% more on ST

#

Pick your poison

distant crystal
#

i used the healing one for the first couple months of slands keksquad

strong forum
mellow bridge
sick sentinel
#

oil

#

because potions

#

the proffesion potions do alot more shit if you have oil on your weapon

#

the stone is an incredibly small amount of attack power and is even bound by the old system of having to check what type of weapon you have and crafting, and using the correct one

#

stones are a giant nope for me

uneven river
#

Finally killed fate into kt fate took my guild way to long

teal swift
#

Kinda doesn't matter but stones imho are slightly better

sick sentinel
#

what about, is there a macro to use armor kits on your chest piece without opening character

#

example im about to start a key, just a simple fix that saves extra 5 seconds

#

the other way i got around that too was with the sharpening stones, i would just simply put the weapon to be sharpened on the action bar simply so i could click it immedaitely after clicking the sharpening

distant crystal
#

#showtooltip
/use Heavy Desolate Armor Kit
/use 5

sick sentinel
#

i just use the regular ones, heavy ones are like 2/300+gold each on my server, is only 75g for mine

#

i thought there might be some issue, cuz like its checking for an item in bag and equipped thing,

mellow bridge
#

Just change the item name in the macro

#

Idk what the normal ones are called, probably the same just without the "heavy" part

sick sentinel
#

what about, does bounding stride have a different spell id for leap? doesn't track the CD in Ability Team Tracker, while using bounding (ATT, not to be confused with att, the collection addon)
nvm i can just do a weak aura for it :S

teal swift
#

20's are on the horizon

#

I should just buy all 8 portals

#

For Io, so I can pug better

ocean reef
#

Buying your way to achieves is just quite meh

#

You got plenty of time to earn them yourself

teal swift
#

I'd re-earn, I'm just getting denied from keys I'm positive I could tank well

#

The small tax to just have good io so I can play the game I want to play

#

Seems reasonable

#

Engineering makes the portals kinda shit

#

I just wanna do challenging content

#

And pugging my way through the easy shit is fucking horribke

brittle owl
#

yuzu

#

bro, fam, my guy

#

don't buy shit

#

play the game

teal swift
#

I can't play the game tho

#

I gotta wade through garbage to get anything fun done

ocean reef
#

Thats how it is for a lot of people

teal swift
#

Imagine if you had to clear normal, with the most disgusting players before you could do heroic, and then mythic

ocean reef
#

Getting to a good raiding guild doesn't just take a single day either

teal swift
#

Took @waxen junco like 3 months

#

To go from trash to 13th world

ocean reef
#

Some people just are inherently insane at the game and quick at learning, and are quick to form connections or have them already

#

Theyre outliers compared to the average

teal swift
#

Maybe if I move to UK

#

I can marry him

#

And he can get me ce

#

And all my portals uwu

ocean reef
#

Yeah no

#

Just play the game

teal swift
#

I'd marry him tho, he is giga cute

ocean reef
#

You got the entire rest of the expac to get the portals

teal swift
#

Portals are sideeffext I want the Io to do high keys uwu

ocean reef
#

Buying them now will remove any sense of accomplishment getting them and you as a player won't have improved at all

teal swift
#

It's not like I'd stop doing keys, I am just sick of 15-18 keys

#

Literal lottery

ocean reef
#

Just because you have access to higher content won't mean you can do it as easily as you do your current

teal swift
#

With pugging

ocean reef
#

Thats just how pugging is

teal swift
#

Grass is greener

#

I'll consider it tho

#

I'm not rushing it

ocean reef
#

It is definitely greener

#

But there are absolute donkey dong brained people in 2.5k io as well

#

Not just under 2k

teal swift
#

Lol I don't bring below 2k

#

I do t even like taking below 2300

#

Doesn't help that the group finder is pretty scarce

#

Like 4-5 20-22 keys at a time

ocean reef
#

It was just a comparison

#

You will find players with varying skill in both high and low io

#

Io doesn't solve your issues

#

Its a struggle at times to climb but it's worth it in the end

#

If it's what you really want to do

teal swift
#

They need to let us keep unlocking vault slots for every 10 keys we run

#

3 slot sisnt enough

#

Let me get rewarded for actually doing low keys 😠

mellow gorge
#

Just do pvp man

#

9 slot

glossy wasp
#

Mythic raid vault 👁️

empty path
#

❓ Guys, I looking for mythic raid community (alliance), any thoughts ? Our guild stopped raiding this tier, due ppls started quit a game at least till new raid. I looking forward for more mythic progress, atm I'm at 3/10m. Ty for help/tips 🙂

teal swift
#

Top 100 warrior tanks on Area 52 tho

ionic fern
#

👍

teal swift
mellow gorge
#

Last time i checked

#

Im in the 50s lol

#

Ah yes reapm 21

#

Realm

ionic fern
mellow gorge
#

I can get top 10 easily

#

Damn

#

I just need like 50 rio

ionic fern
#

I remember the good old times when i was in the world 100. 😦

#

Big sad.

mellow gorge
#

Back in the good ol days

ionic fern
mellow gorge
#

To be fair

#

I could resub and try to get a good ranking

ionic fern
#

Just a matter of motivation. 😦

mellow gorge
#

True

#

True

ionic fern
#

My motivation is awfully low..tho i managed to get some keys in this week. 👀

mellow gorge
#

On one hand id like to reach realm top 10

#

On the other hand

#

Pugging keys

ionic fern
#

Tbh..this week is kinda free.

mellow gorge
#

You'd be surprised

#

Though the affixes are good

#

People never change

ionic fern
#

True.
The couple of keys i did yesterday were more or less OK, except for the one Mists where the healer diddn't heal on the first boss and 2 DPS'ers died.

#

😒

teal swift
#

A52 is largest server in world afaik

mellow gorge
#

2018 afaik

#

Oh

#

Not rio rating

#

:(

mellow gorge
teal swift
#

:kekw:

ionic fern
#

That's why i carry drums.

teal swift
#

I'd like to carry my pocket shaman

mellow gorge
#

I dont need drums, I have 2 empty headed dps to bash on

ionic fern
#

Jakey got almost declined from a +18 yesterday because the leader was "I want BL".

#

😂

mellow gorge
#

Ah

teal swift
#

L O L?

mellow gorge
#

Ah yes

#

Lust tank

teal swift
#

I started dming people

mellow gorge
#

Baseline hero for prot plz

teal swift
#

aski8ng why they declined me

#

And been geting more invites

ionic fern
mellow gorge
#

Tbf, drums are decent

#

Better than no lust

ionic fern
#

And when i told the party leader that i know him and he's good he responded "I want BL".

#

😂

#

I mean it was only a +18...

mellow gorge
#

Jesus

#

Yeah imma pack drums

jagged pier
#

tbf

teal swift
#

Jakey can Yuzu get a hug?

jagged pier
#

the dh doing 5k during the boss increased damage phase

#

was not good

ionic fern
#

😂

mellow gorge
#

I swear

#

Its amazing how some dps

#

Can really not even dps

teal swift
#

ive improved!

mellow gorge
#

Ooo not bad

#

I need to do and time my keys and hopefully time a few 17s and 18s

#

But man getting decent dps is challenging

jagged pier
#

its sad timing new keys and getting like 1 score

teal swift
#

Very sad.

#

I miss the old system . . .

mellow gorge
#

Very sad indeed

#

Yeah

#

They shouldn't have split it

#

Between tyra and fortified

blazing condor
#

eh i kinda like it ngl

#

just takes some time getting used to

jagged pier
#

i like the idea of pushing in tyran as well

#

but i also hate the dungeons

#

and game

teal swift
#

I like that idea, i hate how it was implemented

jagged pier
#

🤷

blazing condor
#

ye

#

i have no game time anymore

#

and i stopped pushing keys months ago

ionic fern
#

I actually had a GOOD boomy yesterday..people say that boomies do no damage but this one was blasting.

#

👀

jagged pier
blazing condor
sweet summit
blazing condor
#

i never got to show you guys how much i can int

jagged pier
#

i int everything

teal swift
ionic fern
#

Same.
I int on my MW - tho i only died ONCE to a frontal yesterday.