protection

[brittle owl]

you can finagle those with micromovement

it's a useful skill to learn esp if you pug

[mellow gorge]

finagle?

[brittle owl]

finesse

[tropic gorge]

I haven't heard Thad t word in forever lol

That's a good tip, I'll try that

[brittle owl]

or sort out idk a synonim

[tropic gorge]

I try to Los when I can

[brittle owl]

go into m0 solo

or hc, depending on gear

and just practice moving those mobs

small steps at a time, between melees

[mellow gorge]

ye ol fish bait

honestly, who thought to lock out soul cinders behind the adventure table, only 10 per run is really infrequent smh

[urban portal]

It's not supposed to be a main source

You use it to get the last couple

[tropic gorge]

They are buffing the reward amount I think next week

[mellow gorge]

finally

i now am not a scrubian

[blazing condor]

[cinder nova]

Can anyone tell me why my raid group's median parse damage is 8.

[jagged pier]

because you do no damage

[cinder nova]

We're progging M Ner'zhul and we're 50+ pulls into it at this point with anticipated kill times close to or past 7 minutes

[jagged pier]

compared to the other groups

[sweet summit]

wait what

[cinder nova]

It's fucking agony.

[blazing condor]

my previous guild was kinda like that

pain

agony

eternal damnation

[sweet summit]

i'd dip real quick

[blazing condor]

i know you can't relate erga but sometimes it's hard when the guild consists of real life friends

[sweet summit]

i can relate

:)

[blazing condor]

[cinder nova]

How do I get these guys to do more than grey parse.

[blazing condor]

why yall got like 100 boomies

and they still suck

[cinder nova]

Four are NF.

[sweet summit]

the statement is still correct

idk

best thing you can to is to kindly direct them to class discord/guide

[blazing condor]

sending a boomie into the boomie discord is like taking your dog to the vet because it has tooth-ache and it gets euthanized

[cinder nova]

I'm not even sure that'll help. I remember some people getting shitty when I had mentioned the raid's historic and easily identifiable pattern of struggling with any DPS-related breakpoints, checks, or otherwise DPS-tight fights.

[sweet summit]

🏃

[cinder nova]

What's the acceptable sim loss in terms of human error?

500? 1K?

[sweet summit]

arbitrary number

can change if you get fucked by rng

[cinder nova]

Yeah, but I'm sure there's a relative median somewhere.

[blazing condor]

your dudes shouldnt be gray

since it's ilvl%

[sweet summit]

ilvl% irrelevant

[blazing condor]

i mean idk if that matters

[sweet summit]

terrible metric

[blazing condor]

yea

but like

its not like they parse lower because they're 30ilvl below

they just suck 🙂

[mellow bridge]

well

with that kinda dps youre not killing soulrender

or any other boss past remnant for that matter

[sweet summit]

not even sure if you're killing remnant at all

[mellow bridge]

that too tbh

either dip fast and find something better or accept where you'll be stuck forever 🤷‍♂️

[sweet summit]

yea

[jagged pier]

i would dip that

[mellow bridge]

if people arent willing to improve or even get shitty when you just mention something like struggling with raid dps

it's lost

go next gg

[sweet summit]

it's not like you can't play with your friends outside of raid

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/disappear-gone-vanish-piece-im-out-gif-17966078

[blazing condor]

can confirm

it was a pain

[cinder nova]

The slowest kills have like 5K less raid DPS than us, sometimes more.

We can kill him, the problem is a mixture of doggedly low DPS and shitty execution.

[tropic gorge]

Grats! I hit 2100 yesterday and realized that rating doesn't = skill lol

[blazing condor]

rating =/= skill in m+

because the standards change with the keystone levels

[cinder nova]

10 to a 13 is still the same. A 21 to 24 is a massive difference in required ability.

[tropic gorge]

Saw a high 2100 raited priest. Did almost 0 dmg (around 2k total) in spires. Meh. Seen 2. 1k and higher dps do as much as the tank. Lmao

[cinder nova]

Check how much unnecessary damage the group took between those two groups.

[tropic gorge]

Tried to run sd last night out of the group finder. Had a friend healing. Had decent gear ilvl and rated dps. Couldn't finish. Dps wasn't pushing at all. 45m down the drain cause I'm stubborn and at least try to finish. We wiped endlessly to the 2nd boss (in the circle area). I set a world marker at the entrance and told my friend "if we end up at the marker, the group is dead". We did :(

[tropic gorge]

This was last week during bolster
Pulled the first big guy, and the healer did nothing for a good solid 30 seconds. Just stood there. I was disappointed

[halcyon pasture]

does 'show of force' stack? ie 5 revenge in a row at +21% each make the next thunderclap +105%

[sweet summit]

no

[halcyon pasture]

bummer

[sweet summit]

yep

would be (a little bit) epic if it did

[sick sentinel]

i didn't catch what happened exactly, but i had a good group for halls 14 and we got to 2nd boss and then healer died to something, i died to something, and shaman died with boss 1.3%

[distant crystal]

they died to the boss slam thing

i bet

decurse and gtfo

[sick sentinel]

leap + blood torren i think because i may not have had block up enough possibly?

[modern brook]

Halls boss 2 is the wall

Make sure you're saving lustfor it

[sick sentinel]

every time the adds comes out he did bubble or BOP on himself

[modern brook]

That's a weird reaction

[distant crystal]

bop/bubble after you get hit by the slam is good

it puts a nasty bleed iirc

but not getting hit by the slam is the big brain play, was there no mage/shaman/druid in the party?

[modern brook]

Sure but on add spawn?

[distant crystal]

🚫

[modern brook]

[sick sentinel]

we had shaman hunter dk paladin

venth paladin healer

[distant crystal]

shaman just has to decurse whoever gets the circle thing

and hopefully they can use some movement to get out before boss lands

[sick sentinel]

he didn't use wings even though it was up whole fight, oh well

[mellow gorge]

True that, but hey atleast it shows i suffered and got a reward out of it

[sick sentinel]

ah, try again i suppose

[broken nexus]

Where can I find %hits blocked on logs?

[mystic warren]

hover over the damage source

[broken nexus]

Awesome, thank you!

[mellow gorge]

so i did a +9 for the memes

got this instead

[distant crystal]

pump that mf full of valor

[mellow gorge]

shame it's speed

but a tertiary stat

is better than no tertiary

[mellow gorge]

btw lads, reprisal on feet or legs?

[lofty widget]

legs

[mellow gorge]

isn't there a dom socket on legs?

[modern brook]

No

[sick sentinel]

speed good, move faster out of death circle

+EV

better than avoidance imho, indestructible is nice, but i mean, if u cant afford repairs... dunno what to say lol

2k gold per day callings, max repair maybe 1k at 0% total gear durability

[mellow gorge]

just go with mikanikos for repairs

never have to pay for repairs again

[sick sentinel]

"gear is red :("

things you never want to hear in a key

[cloud dagger]

plus the ''cant afford repair''

[sick sentinel]

"i have to go afk for 8 minutes in this 30 minute dungeon to get my mail"

that was a recent one

[cloud dagger]

hahah

[mellow gorge]

honestly

after going mikanikos

screw the spear of bastion upgrade

getting healed repairs your equipment

is so good

[sick sentinel]

if we want to do true minimizer and not actual int i say someone has to do the proc enchant for weapons "you get more healing taken"

seems like that was more aimed at DK/DH/monks tanks though

[ocean reef]

What you're thinking of is that the legs have a dom bonus for frost

[sweet summit]

actually, i was thinking of you

[ocean reef]

😳

[sick sentinel]

wow token in china

[mellow gorge]

aight bois, i've done it

i'm now gonna use reprisal

[sick sentinel]

not 262?

[mellow gorge]

no

i'm too cheap

to buy 262

when they're being listed for ~70k

249 is good enough

[sick sentinel]

i want to say my legs cost under 40k for the final rank

made a bunch of 235's

[mellow gorge]

Hm fair enough

[cloud dagger]

could have used the legendary upgrade thing you can make through professions

[mellow gorge]

I did

Had a 210 legs apparently

So I bumped it to 249

[tropic gorge]

so this seems kinda nice: https://www.wowhead.com/item=172418/enchant-chest-eternal-bulwark

[mighty valley]

Common consensus is that 10 stats > 25 armor... but it's not like I'm gonna do any math on my own or anything

[mellow gorge]

Don't you get armor value from strength?

[sweet summit]

you do

eternal stats/eternal skirmish>>that thing

[mellow gorge]

Yeah

100% armor value from strength

So that enchant is garb

[mighty valley]

i still laugh that they just didn't bother coming up with a name for the stats enchant

"eternal stats"

[steel mist]

6.9k overall for a destro lock and unholy dk damage on a necro 17 this week is pretty low right

[mighty valley]

nw? did you all use all weapons?

nw dps varies a lot depending on pulls, who got to use which weapons, etc

doesn't sound great but i've timed with worse

[honest plinth]

Its all about route in nw, but if they did 7k and 3rd dps player did 10 (and they used equal amount of weapons), the answer is yes.

[sick sentinel]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=177659/enchant-chest-eternal-skirmish

i did this one

and lightless on weapon

[honest plinth]

I prefer 30 stats +cg

[urban portal]

yeah i think skirmish is bad unless you really want st

since str converts to durability

and does more in aoe

[violet violet]

Is celestial guidance better than lightless force?

Just curious in terms of damage

[distant crystal]

lf should be more i'd think for aoe

[urban portal]

lightless does more in aoe

but celestial does more in st and gives you tiny bit more survival

[violet violet]

Thanks that’s what I was assuming

[tame jasper]

Anyone here who I can contact over the weekend about tanking mythic Painsmith. Plz DM me

[ionic fern]

Your safest bet is probably this channel? 👀

[jagged pier]

what do u want to know about/ whats your other tank?

[autumn pendant]

@tame jasper

[teal swift]

@tame jasper have you tried #arms

[gaunt dawn]

Live weapon throws. Get to the correct spots.

Boss doesnt hurt outside of that

[ionic fern]

https://www.tanknotes.com/sanctum-of-domination/painsmith-raznal

@gaunt dawn video guides on the page when

[teal swift]

Neat website

It's almost like panthea had a great site.

[gaunt dawn]

That preview image is new

👀

[gaunt dawn]

When I finish written for mythic

Even tho video is much faster in my mind as I can go full kungen on it

Look at me. Do this. Good.

[ionic fern]

Well, tbf you actually have most of the mechanics as videos on the site already.

[gaunt dawn]

Went through quite a few fights step by step last night with new tank trial

Was quite interesting in how little info he had to work with before

E.g. on sylv it was stuff like, here you'll get 2 combos in a row because of x y z

Here it's a combo followed by nothing so dont commit stuff

[ionic fern]

👀
Did you link him Tanknotes before hand tho

Oh, nvm.
Mythic is missing on Sylvansa.

[gaunt dawn]

At this point in the fight you're like Ian Beale and have nothing left so I take the boss

Stuff like that

Mythic is written just need to snip videos of mythic only stuff

For sylv

[tame jasper]

General tips. Most thought / frighend I have is about the constant need of getting cross the plattform very quickly - is jump cd enough?
Other tank will be druid.

@teal swift Officialy I own an arms slot in the rais as „on sheet“ there are two other tanks. But in real Im mostly tank as one is more inactive than active and it looks like he will call his quit on monday.

As for now we only had a few pulls on PS after our first SR kill and at that evening I was arms. Yesterday we killed SR again and will now have a full evening on PS on Monday - and for 99% i will tank. And I want to be prepared

[jagged pier]

how many paladins do u have?

[tame jasper]

One holy for sure, most of the time one ret

Will anser again later, back at work

[teal swift]

@jagged pier

Now im a fox on a cat 😄

[jagged pier]

same

worth the 700k gold

[teal swift]

I woke up to it

Friend gave

As gift

[ionic fern]

What on earth is that.

[jagged pier]

new store mount

[ionic fern]

[jagged pier]

yes

but i pay with gold anyways

[ionic fern]

I got 30k. Ama.

[jagged pier]

its our tokens so expensive now tho

cause no one plays the game anymore

was like 335k yesterday

[ionic fern]

👀

[jagged pier]

at least i have like £10 account mount cause u need 2 tokens

[ionic fern]

That's pretty crazy, ngl.

[jagged pier]

thats like a sub

[ionic fern]

I remember them being like 150k or something.

😒

[jagged pier]

yer when ppl played the game

XD

[ionic fern]

It's fine - soon we will have people coming back for 2 weeks when Legion TW drops.

[jagged pier]

mwahi that is huge

[teal swift]

Why don't people like the game

Make friends like @plush atlas and you'll never get bored

[jagged pier]

the game is trash, all the systems, all the borrowed power the poor class design, the devs not listening its been going on for too long, a lot of ppl just cant put up with it anymore

for instance they promised no new grinds or systems for 9.1 at the start of the expansion

we got both of those in 9.1

[ionic fern]

"Class changes".

[jagged pier]

they seem very out of touch with what the players actually want, they seem deteremined to keep ppl in the game doing boring stuff that just not fun instead of just letting ppl focus on the parts they like and play at their of leisure

for instance if I could raid log like Wod i would be extremly happy with the game

i dont care for the other parts of the game much

i dont mind m+ with friends

[ionic fern]

I reached renown 80 so i'm just chilling now.

😂

[jagged pier]

only a week late

[ionic fern]

Barely logging on outside of the weeklies.

[ionic fern]

It's way sooner than the previous farms.

According to my standards atleast.

[jagged pier]

thats true

but it is faster to grind it

i believe

[ionic fern]

Jep, just take the 2 quests, do dailies and be done with it.

I mean, Korthia dailies provided almost the 1k AP needed for the Sanctum one.

[jagged pier]

true

[ionic fern]

Don't really have any hopes for this expansion but i got higher (although VERY-VERY fragile) hopes for the next Expansion.

[mellow gorge]

I mean ya never know

[jagged pier]

honestly if next expansion is bad im out im done

[jagged pier]

[mellow gorge]

9.2 heavy emphasis on might be decent

[jagged pier]

[ionic fern]

Jeah, we'll be Discord warriors.

[jagged pier]

probably

like if there are more grinds, I honestly dont have the time

[ionic fern]

I don't have the interest.

😂

[jagged pier]

also that

[mellow gorge]

Didn't people hate bfa for the grind, and now some people say they miss bfa?

[jagged pier]

ppl always look fondly on the last expansion

[ionic fern]

Idm there being grinds..but let the rewards be cosmetic or w/e.
I don't wanna be forced to grind endlessly or be left behind.

[brittle owl]

join the club. we have shitposts and insults

[jagged pier]

its like the new CoD every year everyone says the last was better than the new

etc etc

[lofty widget]

what endless grinds do we have atm?

[mellow gorge]

Ah well, 7 days left on sub

Once that's done no more WoW until new content

[jagged pier]

i didnt say endless grinds i said grinds

and btw in 9.1.5 reknown is turning into an endless grind

[ionic fern]

I said endless.
Cause i bet there's going to be even more Renown levels soon.

[jagged pier]

get 1% stat like each 2 lvls or somthing

[ionic fern]

^

[brittle owl]

wow is basically an endless grind atm

[jagged pier]

which back to the original point is why ppl dont like that

[brittle owl]

has been for like 3 expacs

[jagged pier]

they like doing the content they like and getting the most power they can from it

[brittle owl]

or 4 idk how wod went

[jagged pier]

nah wod didnt have a grind

literally just raid logged

it was great

[brittle owl]

for how much shit it got

wod sounded alot like the "sup king" expac

[teal swift]

I must. E out of touch

Cause I like keys

I like korthia

[jagged pier]

like mwahi enjoys m+ he doesnt want to raid or do the grinds etc, he wants to do m+ get the best gear for mythic + from mythic plus and log in and have in the game
im the same with raiding
but we both dont want to do korthia or reknown, which just want to do the content we want and know we get/ have the best gear for it form the content

[teal swift]

And torg

This raid tier isn't very fun

[brittle owl]

i mean

[teal swift]

I enjoy like 2 bosses

[jagged pier]

yer but torg was far much better in beta

[brittle owl]

there is something to be said about personal preference

[teal swift]

Tarra and remnant

[brittle owl]

and diff types of gamers

[teal swift]

I went out and tried to play ff14

It was so casual

And you were forced to do story mose

[brittle owl]

🤷‍♂️

depends alot on what you enjoy about games

but personally i much prefered wow when it was slower paced grind but with a very clear and set in stone "end"

each patch just added 1 week at most of extra grind

[mellow gorge]

Ngl, I just don't want cosmic forces expac

I wanna go back to be a normal adventurer

Fight dragons n shit

[brittle owl]

legion and bfa were cool and all after a 7 year hiatus but shit got stale real quick

[ionic fern]

Give me dom gear from m+ with specific gems for m+. Let Dom gear from raid give some specific stuff there (like the set bonus).
Give me Soul Ash from end of dungeon chests (even little), don't make me do Torghast.

Thaaaanks.

[brittle owl]

honestly, i said this in some other disc i think

[ionic fern]

Options for everyone.

[brittle owl]

with how wow is going currently

item drops make 0 sense

power progression from gear is dumb, unnecesary, and a hindrance

a better system would be power gains from finishing comtent

[teal swift]

I play wow cause I love tanking

[brittle owl]

finish all m+ at keylevel 10 you get a stat boost

[teal swift]

And socializing

[brittle owl]

finish raid at a certain difficulty, another stat boost

and you can toggle between the statboosts

[teal swift]

Eh

[jagged pier]

ff is more of a social game than wow

[ionic fern]

I play WoW like a singleplayer game pretty much

Only time i'm social in there is when i'm doing skyhold weeklies.

[teal swift]

FF isn't bad , but the forces storymlde is bad.

[jagged pier]

alright then i wont join your groups then @ionic fern

😦

[teal swift]

I'm not good enough to do stuff with yall

[brittle owl]

that's the point where i quit

[jagged pier]

korthia is forced story quests

[brittle owl]

both times

[jagged pier]

same with cov campaign

[brittle owl]

cause wow as a sp game is shit

always has been

[teal swift]

I wanna get my 20s done, maybe one of you could watch some time and scream at me what I'm doing wrong

[ionic fern]

Well, i only key log right now.

[mellow gorge]

Eyo I can do that ez pz

[ionic fern]

Get Jakey and Erga to carry me in keys for the weekly and be done with it.

[teal swift]

Ayy

[mellow gorge]

Scream at not efficiently using rallying cry on cd

[teal swift]

Tomorrow I think we're looking to push 17-19 keys

[jagged pier]

u dont need to know mechanics to get to 20 keys

[mellow gorge]

Depends on what time cause either im 8 or 9 hours ahead

[ionic fern]

You think so? I'm a +15 hero right now.

[brittle owl]

mwahi is a grey parser

[ionic fern]

^

[brittle owl]

never forget stormwall

[ionic fern]

😂

Best time of my life.

[jagged pier]

dps still dont know that the boss in mists gets an 80% DR in lvl 20 keys

[mellow gorge]

Yknow, I did a +16 DoS and couldn't time it, so out of frustration I went to do a +9 and thank God im not doing low keys cause that 9 was dreadful

[teal swift]

Y'all should make an na raising guils

So we can all plah

[jagged pier]

i havent done a key below 15 this season

i refuse

[brittle owl]

?

we're all eu

[jagged pier]

im not playing on NA XD

[mellow gorge]

Healer died to the spirit of death walker, and the dps kept shitting on each other with parses

[brittle owl]

idk if there's an NA sf in here

maybe the dps channels

[jagged pier]

theres sense

[ionic fern]

Never forgetti.

Guess on what character i was forced to be on Mekkatorque.

[strong forum]

The big wall

[brittle owl]

sense is too far gone though

[jagged pier]

we just got someelse to play bdk

[teal swift]

If I ever rolled EU

[brittle owl]

dude will play wow until servers shut down

[teal swift]

I'm marrying puro

[jagged pier]

same here @brittle owl

[strong forum]

Sense is ceo of Activision Blizzard

[brittle owl]

ye but did you play since alpha jakey

didn't think so

[jagged pier]

vanilla

[brittle owl]

fucking casual

[jagged pier]

i was 11

[brittle owl]

still casual

[teal swift]

But yeah I need more friebds

[jagged pier]

i didnt quite get invited to alpha or beta

[ionic fern]

The excuses...

[teal swift]

And I need people to help me play better ;-;

[ionic fern]

"My mom diddn't pay my sub!!".

[teal swift]

Also sylv p3

[ionic fern]

[teal swift]

Can someone explain

[jagged pier]

we keep telling u to log

but u dont

[teal swift]

How to clean platforms on heroic

[strong forum]

Wow is age restricted to 12 hello??!

[teal swift]

I keep doing dumb shit and yeahhh

[strong forum]

I'm calling the police

[brittle owl]

bruh i only had access to prepaid cards

[teal swift]

Like, when do I pick up shit on current

When do ingrsb shit on next

Etc

[brittle owl]

had to pay 60 romanian schmekls for em

[teal swift]

I have like 53 wioes

And onyk seen p3 like 5 times

[jagged pier]

https://www.tanknotes.com/sanctum-of-domination/sylvanas-windrunner

[brittle owl]

just so i can die in feralas

[strong forum]

P3 is, have good dps and healers on heroic

[teal swift]

I need someone to explain

[strong forum]

Fuck pool management

[teal swift]

Like I am missing 3.14 brain lobes

[strong forum]

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/run-away-tracy-jordan-30rock-jump-out-dive-gif-19239832

[teal swift]

My best pull was like 3% p3

And I didn't touch the pools

But my guild needs me too

:pepehands:

[brittle owl]

pee in it

show dominance

[jagged pier]

pick up pools they dont hurt

[mellow gorge]

Sanctum of domination

Guess thats about right

[jagged pier]

got to the edge and get dispelled before the end of fury

ez

[teal swift]

I love prot warrior so much

[ionic fern]

Hello? I'm old. I was 12+ by that time.

[teal swift]

Oh shit I got a SS for yall

[mellow gorge]

Btw lads

Quick question

[jagged pier]

shoot

[mellow gorge]

Is it possible that imma replace this ring or nah?

[jagged pier]

depends what content u doing

[mellow gorge]

Or do I pump it full of valor and forever have it

M+

[ionic fern]

Oh, those were a thing . 😄
I still remember going to the store and buying 128MB of RAM to make my WoW run smoother.

[jagged pier]

i mean unlikely youll replace it uless u get the 252 version

[teal swift]

245 arms warrior

[jagged pier]

but valor is a capped resoruce

[brittle owl]

bruh i played on a laptop

[jagged pier]

so do u want to waste it is the question

[brittle owl]

[teal swift]

Overall vs single target on a boss

[ionic fern]

Imagine having a laptop back then.

Rich bastard.

[teal swift]

Idk how to push 20s

Can barely time 16 with pugs

[jagged pier]

bro i played on a laptop till legion XD

[brittle owl]

we just had a laptop, me and my brother

[mellow gorge]

I mean considering good ring w tertiary and socket

Even if I get 252 ill stick to this one

[jagged pier]

yer but speed is whatever

and u can put sockets on rings

[brittle owl]

during tbc we got an imac though, legit living it big at that point

[teal swift]

Like y'all are like yo Yuzu just pug 20s

And I'm looking at the pugs

[mellow gorge]

Some speed better than no speed in a sense

[teal swift]

And like wtf

Why can't people so dpa

[brittle owl]

i mean

[mellow gorge]

Ye ill pump it full of valor

[jagged pier]

u need to work up to is

[mellow gorge]

Screw it

[teal swift]

All they need to do is kick and slap key oard

[jagged pier]

u start by have them all timed on 15

then 16

etc

[brittle owl]

you have 1-2 weeks of actual work until you can casually just get into them

[jagged pier]

etc

it takes time it take practice

[strong forum]

That's sad

[jagged pier]

but youll be better for it

[teal swift]

There's very few

Keys on na

[jagged pier]

this week is huge push week btw

[teal swift]

[mellow gorge]

Oh ye

This week big week

[teal swift]

Yeah I'm home were pushing this week

Btw vespa you ever DPS?

Afsik you're horde na

Afaik

[mellow gorge]

Bruhe

Im alliance eu

[teal swift]

LOP

Fuxk

Reroll

[mellow gorge]

And I did DPS once

[teal swift]

What flavour of eu

[mellow gorge]

I do more dps as tank

Than arms lmao

What flavor?

[brittle owl]

alliance eu is prob the most cursed alliance out of any region

[teal swift]

Are you swedish?

[jagged pier]

but from the looks of it literally no one is playing the game

[teal swift]

Norway, which is basically retarded swedish

[mellow gorge]

No

[jagged pier]

my 15 yesterday showed that

[teal swift]

Or like ehat

[jagged pier]

ppl are bad

[teal swift]

Where u from

[mellow gorge]

None of those regions

The b a l t i c

[teal swift]

UK?

[mellow gorge]

Nah

[teal swift]

I'm na wtf is the baltic

[brittle owl]

yuzu out here

with the na brain

[teal swift]

There's Baltic avenue on monopoly

[jagged pier]

over 2k ahead of the dps
but i will reach 10k in a key if it kills me

[teal swift]

Worse, I have executive dysfunction

[brittle owl]

[jagged pier]

[teal swift]

And am waiting to see if I have brain damage irl

Covid slowed shit down drastic ally

[mellow gorge]

Tbf i dont even know what server I am on

[teal swift]

But my doctor is suspecting literal brain damage

[mellow gorge]

All i know is its EU

[teal swift]

And I'm fucking out dosing these peoplw

[brittle owl]

i mean

how old are you

[teal swift]

30

Lol

[brittle owl]

welp

if you were like 25 it would've been a setback

idk how well a 30yold brain can recover

[teal swift]

I have yet to tell my guild :)

[brittle owl]

but brains are adaptable af

[teal swift]

But I am what I am

[brittle owl]

don't lose hope

[teal swift]

And like I still tank decent

[brittle owl]

just gotta give it some tlc

[mellow gorge]

Listen, if you haven't lost your brain to pugging

[teal swift]

Tempted to just

Buy them

[mellow gorge]

Then you're good

[teal swift]

They like 500k a timed 20

[mellow gorge]

Jesus

[brittle owl]

idk man

[mellow gorge]

I did a 17 this week and it was a breeze

[ocean reef]

Don't buy 20s

[mellow gorge]

20s shouldn't be that hard

[ocean reef]

That's definitely not worht your gold

[lofty widget]

not worth it to buy them

[brittle owl]

buying keys is peak slave mentality

[teal swift]

I don't have gols

[lofty widget]

when the patch is still months long

[teal swift]

I have money for tolens

[jagged pier]

i would never recommend buying anything u can achieve on yourself

[ocean reef]

Buying a weekly key on an alt is one thing

[ionic fern]

Pug. Add people who are good in your pugs. Eventually you will have enough decent people on friends list to make a group.

[ocean reef]

But buying 20s to get the ports when you know you can eventually get them yourself is another thing

[teal swift]

I buy heroic killa

[brittle owl]

friends >> boosts

[teal swift]

Because ougginf them isn't worth the $12 it costs

Pugging*

[jagged pier]

what a waste of gold u can literally pug it

[teal swift]

Like kt + sylv is like $18

I don't like pugging kek

[ocean reef]

Fair enough but at some point it's not worth it

[mellow gorge]

If i reached season 2 purely by pugging

You too can reach 20 by pugging

[ocean reef]

Assuming you'd do it each week you'd spend 72 dollars each month for the bosses

[teal swift]

I mean it costs 1 hour of a 16yos time at McDonald's to pay for KT + sylv

[ionic fern]

Rmt is against the ToS.

[teal swift]

Bruh

It's not rmt

[brittle owl]

idk why you'd wanna do 20's to begin with

[mellow gorge]

Who cares lol, blizz don't care

[brittle owl]

since ykno, you get nothing

[teal swift]

Im just leaving out the token

And using fraction of token price converted back to $$$

[brittle owl]

blizz defo cares about rmt

...that's not theirs

[mellow gorge]

Ah yes

[ionic fern]

It's also not prohibited topic on this discord.

[teal swift]

Who wants to say, yo this costs me 73% of a token

[mellow gorge]

Fair

[teal swift]

But if there is any confusion. I buy tons of tokens

And buy runs with token gold

[mellow gorge]

Ye that makes more sense

[ocean reef]

That's completely fine

[brittle owl]

[ocean reef]

Though you'd save money in the long run and also learn from pugging

[brittle owl]

not prohibited

[ocean reef]

Or finding a guild to do it with

[mellow gorge]

I did a run with my guild

[ocean reef]

It's overall a better investment now and for the future

[mellow gorge]

And let's just say

Pugging is better lmao

[ionic fern]

Sorry,double negative.

[teal swift]

Tbh

[brittle owl]

you pug 1 season to a high io, say 20, and the knowledge you gain will last you indefinitely

[ocean reef]

You'll find awful or hella toxic pugs

[teal swift]

I'm prolly buying full heroic clear this week for 300k ( 1.37 tokens or so)

[ocean reef]

They're a dime a dozen

But in the end it's worth

[teal swift]

Because I missed rsid days

[brittle owl]

buying content that you haven't done before is just hamstringing yourself

[teal swift]

I've done most of it

Justhavnt actually killed sylv

Guilds progging on it

[ocean reef]

In the end you do you

[ocean reef]

It's just generally not recommended to buy yourself to curve/CE etc

If you haven't done it before

[brittle owl]

assuming you wanna play the game at least

[ocean reef]

I'd assume you'd want to if you care enough to spend money on it to buy a boost

[brittle owl]

well

goblins exist

[teal swift]

I might buy ce late into the tier

Because I want the mount

None of the other mounts looked good to me

[brittle owl]

i can 100% understand the thought process from someone who just plays the game as an economy simulator

[teal swift]

Until now

[ocean reef]

That's a subjective thing but if you wanna splurge on the mount, go for it

I'm personally against buying yourself to a CE etc

[jagged pier]

if ppl want to make 27 mil then spend it on a mythic clear, im 100% okay with that tbh

[ocean reef]

I was considering it to buy CE last tier because I took a break from it and would like to have kept the streak

But instead I decided against it

[teal swift]

My guild has a hunter

Who makes like 750k a day

If she wants to buy all her shit she can lol

But she doesn't she just likes economy

[ocean reef]

At least she can get plenty of T3 or TCG mounts

[brittle owl]

goblining can be fun

[mellow gorge]

Lol, imagine having money lmao, couldn't be meee

[brittle owl]

esp if you gather enough initial gold to really get going

[teal swift]

Imagine being born with the correct gender

[ocean reef]

?

[teal swift]

We're imagining things

So why not the good things LOL

[ocean reef]

I mean

ye

[mellow gorge]

Imagine being born lmao

Return me to the cosmic dust

I didnt ask to manifest smh smh

[ocean reef]

I don't have to imagine it

[mellow gorge]

:(

[ocean reef]

The first part

Not the rest

[mellow gorge]

Ah

[teal swift]

https://c.tenor.com/qZiLC0qGROAAAAAM/anime-two-girls.gif

[steel mist]

Fucking hell got to improve roh Kalo and guardian

Sadge

[jagged pier]

need to improve on them again

[ionic fern]

Disgraceful.

[jagged pier]

look at the right hand side they all orange

[ionic fern]

Jeah, hense - disgraceful.

Can't believe you got SF.

Wtf.

[jagged pier]

[ionic fern]

Can we get a mod in there to demote this guy?

[jagged pier]

says the grey parser????????????????

[blazing condor]

Not even full pink

[ionic fern]

See, i did the smart thing.
THEORYcrafter.

[blazing condor]

[ionic fern]

SF are supposed to be good.

I just need to know things.

[jagged pier]

[blazing condor]

Dont think ive touched hc SoD for like 2 months

[jagged pier]

would also like to point out u take my tank spot

[ionic fern]

I haven't joined like in the last 2 weeks. 😦

[jagged pier]

i havent been there on my warrior in like 8 weeks

[ionic fern]

And i'll probably also skip today.
I discovered Hades .

[jagged pier]

i aint gunna be there

[teal swift]

Ugh I'm so shit lol

All my parses need to be pink

Fml

[jagged pier]

they aint gunna be if u pay for boosts youll never learn

[ionic fern]

^

[blazing condor]

^^

[ionic fern]

Honestly if you want to improve just log. 🤷
You can do the most basic log check by yourself even, using common sense.
Open up another log with similar kill timer on the specific encounter and check casts/cd alignments etc.

If you just complain about not getting better nothing's gonna change.

[blazing condor]

Just press buttons

[brittle owl]

prot wowanalyzer when

[blazing condor]

[ionic fern]

Never.

Soon.

[jagged pier]

never

[ionic fern]

Maybe.

[teal swift]

Abelito

[brittle owl]

holy fuck

[teal swift]

Is done with ut

[brittle owl]

that was a rollercoaster

[teal swift]

So someone else has to update it

[brittle owl]

goddammit @sullen valve

[teal swift]

Doesn't like paywalles features iirc

[ionic fern]

Leave my MW master alone.

[brittle owl]

wait

[ionic fern]

[brittle owl]

wowa has a paywall now

?

[teal swift]

@ionic fern abelito is also Yuzu friend

[ionic fern]

Yes.

[brittle owl]

👀

[teal swift]

Last year when Yuzu was suicidal

Abe helped.

[brittle owl]

are they...like, dumb?

[mellow gorge]

They're following the steps of blizzy

Probably

[brittle owl]

they're following the steps of ask mr robot

[teal swift]

What happe es to ask Mr robot

[ionic fern]

The paywall is on specific features iirc , like the timeline etc.

[teal swift]

I havnt seen that shit since like mop

[brittle owl]

the steps of a tool shaped tool shed

[brittle owl]

oh they still going

[teal swift]

LOL

Everyone just uses

[brittle owl]

but 5 years of them being discredited has made them obscure

[teal swift]

Some other site

With the discord bot

[brittle owl]

well

being hermetic and gatekeepey seems to not be good for your image

[ocean reef]

I remember ask Mr robot was a bit obscure to look at for the results back when I tried it years ago

[brittle owl]

esp if theres no high level player on your team

whodda thunk

[ocean reef]

Compared to raidbots

[brittle owl]

there's plenty of people falling into the trap

they have pretty graphs and jpegs that sometimes float around reddit

[teal swift]

In like early mop

I used to use shadowcraft

It was a rogue specific web based sim. It was... An experience.

It made me feel good

Because I always beat the numbers 🤣

[mellow gorge]

I wanna play legion

And get gladiator

[teal swift]

I want more frienss

To play keys with

I might unironically make eu account

Na dies after like 11pm

[ocean reef]

The ping isn't bad when you get used to it

[teal swift]

It's like 180ms

[ocean reef]

Wow has decent lag prevention

[teal swift]

I get like 100ms on na

[ocean reef]

Or rather, a mitigation

[teal swift]

Lol

But yeah I got nothing to do with my late nights

[ocean reef]

I used to play TF2 competitively with 120+ ms

[teal swift]

And all y'all (my friends)

Maybe we could play together uwu

[ocean reef]

Was playable when you got used to how the game works with that ping

[teal swift]

Idk if I could convince my healer to come...

But it'd be nice to have something to so

[ocean reef]

Starting over isn't fun for everyone

[teal swift]

Do*

[ocean reef]

You have none of your mounts or mogs

[teal swift]

Yep

Yuzu knows

It's why Yuzu isn't playing with Puro.

If I was on EU puro and I could hang out.

I'll think about it after 9.1.5

It'd be nice to play with you all...

[ocean reef]

Worst case you can try it if you have plenty of time

[teal swift]

Making new friends. Working together etc etc

[mellow gorge]

Eyo if you switch to EU I can deplete your keys :D

Very fun

[teal swift]

Aren't we doing the same shit in keys

[mellow gorge]

Can't have a deplete record if I leave th keys 😎

[teal swift]

Only reason I pug, is because I can yeet

And not give a fuck

Because it wasn't my key

And blame the leader for grabbing plankton to dps

[mellow gorge]

Only reason I pug is cause I gamble

[ocean reef]

I only ever pug because I'm too lazy to make my own group

But I'll play the key as if it was my own

[teal swift]

But yeah it's disheartening to see my skill kinda stagnate

I know why I'm having some issues

But I need to find a way to improve even a little

[mellow gorge]

Ngl itd be fun to see you tank yuz

I'll be able to be the support dps barely out dpsing the healer

[teal swift]

I'll stream a key for you some time :) maybe next mo the I'll start eu

[mellow gorge]

Eyy, alright

Only issue will be time difference

But should be manageable

[teal swift]

We're literally on

At the same time

Cause I'm a fucking degenerate

And it's 430am

I could literally raid eu times lol

[mellow gorge]

Eyy

That means I'll actually be available for more than 1 hour

[jagged pier]

i wouldnt swap account u will ahve to do everything again

reknown

leggos

etc etc

[mellow gorge]

F u n

[jagged pier]

list goes on

waste of fucking time

[mellow gorge]

Don't you want to literally replay the story?

All over again?

[teal swift]

Yes

I have nothing to do in defen hours

Even if I only play a few hours a week

It gives me the chance to play with more friends

I'm hopeful that some people would help a little

[mellow gorge]

O ye if im on, ill bash you through m0s

Even if you're at a crisp 120 ilvl

Would be good fun to play w friends

[teal swift]

Ikr?

[teal swift]

I wonder how sylv dagger would feel

With deveatator

[sweet summit]

you can't use revenge with dagger

so probably terrible

[jagged pier]

u can with a first wep tho

PS wep

[sweet summit]

yep

can't wait to get that

[jagged pier]

i told my guild about it they were like nah u lying

[teal swift]

Ooo

How much of an increase is that

[jagged pier]

in sims its not

[teal swift]

In reality?

[ocean reef]

You lose a lot of strength for the proc

[jagged pier]

🤷

[ocean reef]

Which only procs in given circumstances

[teal swift]

Sounds like fun to use

[jagged pier]

u only loose like 100 str

[ocean reef]

And the strength applies to everything else

[sweet summit]

thunderclap slows

so huge proc stocks

[jagged pier]

and TC hits everything

and procs it

it will only be good in m+

[ocean reef]

Well

Another way to dispute it being worthwhile is that you can get a 259 1 handed STR wep, but no 259 veinripper

[teal swift]

I wanna try this

How do I make this happen...

[jagged pier]

u get wep

u go to mythic+

[teal swift]

I need to convince

An ago class to help

[sweet summit]

it's definitely not something you want to take over a dps that needs it, but if there are excess veinrippers you can play with it

[teal swift]

T.T

[mellow gorge]

More cool lookin damage

[jagged pier]

i mean u buy boosts yuzu

[mellow gorge]

Maybe not more damage

But ye anwyho

[jagged pier]

buy a boost and specifcy u want that loot

[mellow gorge]

So everyone rolls a dagger class?

[teal swift]

Lol, that's be so pricy

But it's be nice of have sylv dagger

And vein ripper

LOL

Dw them

Point at rogues

[jagged pier]

no dagger does nothing for us

[teal swift]

Makes rogues fucking cry

[jagged pier]

u cant use half our abilities

[teal swift]

Is what it does

You just use it for townset

[jagged pier]

wouldnt be bad in raid and if wep swappin wasnt on the gcd

could swap proc is

swap back

[teal swift]

https://open.spotify.com/album/1kTnC045mQqurTQvGMGpmU?si=mqxQqdMCR1-J-b6n5mtsIw&utm_source=copy-link

This movie was like 11 years ago

I feel old af

[mellow gorge]

O l d

[strong forum]

I've never seen httyd

Had no appeal to me cuz I was in my Edgy teen years

Now I'm in my Edgy "adult" years

[jagged pier]

[teal swift]

I really like it

Like even as an adult holds up

Sequels no fucking idea

[brittle owl]

first avengers movie was 10 years ago

gl hf with that information

[jagged pier]

shrek was like 20 years ago

[brittle owl]

[jagged pier]

still slaps today tho

[brittle owl]

shrek is life

[teal swift]

What?

Noooo

When was first LOTR releveased

Cause I remmeber seeing that in theatres

omg it wasn't recent

[jagged pier]

2001 i think

[strong forum]

Yeah that's really not recent at all

Dare I say, the opposite of recent

[modern brook]

unrecent

[autumn pendant]

Recen't

[plush tendon]

Stop making me feel old

[jagged pier]

we are all old

[plush tendon]

[jagged pier]

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-we-are-all-getting-old-gif-20161547

[jagged pier]

^^

[brittle owl]

we're not getting old

we're getting better

[modern brook]

Bout to ding 60 irl tbh

[brittle owl]

inc endgame

[mellow gorge]

66% on NW w reprisal

seems a bit low isn't it?

[lofty widget]

cant tell from details

[mellow gorge]

well i don't log so i don't have the block %

but as far as i know the average uptime w repirsal is 80% ?

[lofty widget]

no the block % should be above 80%

[mellow gorge]

ohh

i thought uptime was meant to be above 80%

[jagged pier]

as we keep saying uptime means nothing

if u want to see if u have used SB correctly u NEED to log

[mellow gorge]

ye fair

[strong forum]

That's huge javelin uptime

[tropic gorge]

I had weird issues uploading my logs last night. The wow log upload program kept saying it had too many errors. I'll reboot my pc today when I get home, hopefully that'll fix it

All my runs yesterday, not logged because of the errors :(

[strong forum]

Love corrupted logs

eyir cocks

[gilded tendon]

[mellow gorge]

picked it up at start, didn't use it until 3rd boss

[dusky canopy]

Would yall trade vers piece for a mastery piece if you gain 65 avoidance by doing so?

[strong forum]

Sure

Depends on the haste/crit tho of the other stat

[mellow gorge]

Avoidance is nice

Leech is amazing

Speed is speed

[dusky canopy]

I'm Spoiled with Tertiary

[mellow gorge]

14% leech

[strong forum]

Das alotta leech

[mellow gorge]

My man

Are you a DH?

[dusky canopy]

😛

tbf its only 11% if i take the blood shard out

[mellow gorge]

Oh

[strong forum]

Still very good

[mellow gorge]

With dom socks

Pfft

[dusky canopy]

at 11%, my leech is typically 20% of my healing

[mellow gorge]

I have roughly the same stats only leech is at 5% all through item tertiary stats only

Ye leech is big

[dusky canopy]

yeah i think im going to lose some haste/vers to gain that avoidance x) ill have to play around with it ofc

[strong forum]

Stats are overrated, you can't go wrong with either item assuming same ilvl

[dusky canopy]

yeah its the remnant chest vs guardian chest

guardian chest has avoidance

honestly i agree ive been finding itemlevel+Tertiary is what i end up leaning too

sims seem to agree

although prot sim you know

kek

[strong forum]

Whatever has more haste

[jagged pier]

☝️

[north rampart]

any prot warrs in the mdi?

[tropic gorge]

What is mdi

[modern brook]

📺

[north rampart]

mythic dungeon international

some contest to do + keys real fast

[tropic gorge]

Oh

[lofty widget]

some teams opt for pwarrs in top and mists

[dusky canopy]

its where you get to see a +19 HoA run in 12 minutes 🙂

[sweet summit]

+22*

[dusky canopy]

oh shit did they do a 22

even more wild

[strong forum]

In mists and top

In those keys you're very likely to see a pwar

Sometimes in pf aswell

[tropic gorge]

Top is my favorite to tank. Ez route and lots of physical damage

[dark lark]

ProtWar making its return to MDI for like the first time all expac

Naowh running it in TOP20

With Kyrian lego

[strong forum]

"first time"

Pwar has been in every 9.1 mdi so far