protection

[acoustic fjord]

yoink

[mellow bridge]

dont be like me

[jagged pier]

it does?

what part?

[mellow bridge]

dont think that when you tauntswap and he casts his spell, that he doesnt melee at the same time

i am dumb

tbf if you have to tank both adds in the intermission, that kinda hurts

[runic sparrow]

if you are talking about tank swap, then spell reflect the first and shield wall second + third cast. should make the damage intake negligible

[uneven river]

ia was also dumb

its the swap itself

got it now

[sick sentinel]

With 9.1.5 any major changes prot mains need to care about?

[sweet summit]

not really, no

there is the bonegrinder meme build i guess

[sick sentinel]

Where can I find this meme build?

[sweet summit]

it's just talenting into ravager and having merciless bonegrinder conduit equipped

[iron forum]

You can go different covenants for different keys which is kind of big

But that's it really

[sweet summit]

and press whirlwind instead of revenge when bonegrinder buff is active (for aoe)

[sick sentinel]

I already go ravager for M+, sounds interesting

[sweet summit]

ye

other than that, ravager getting "uncapped"

and venthyr legendary extends avatar instead of last stand

but that legendary is still kinda dogpiss

[iron forum]

I wish they had made it extend the rage conduit and bolster instead, I don't see why it doesn't

[sick sentinel]

Still going to use Reprisal over all other legos yeah?

[sweet summit]

reprisal for general use and seismic for glass canon damage

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlTBIVdb3j4

[sweet summit]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

🍝

[sick sentinel]

what the guy is talking about here is not important

but the way that they show "chosing this will do this" is very well thought out

[iron forum]

It'll get fixed before 10.0

[sweet summit]

[sick sentinel]

The bone grinder thing sounds fun, so there’s that

[sweet summit]

oh yeah whirlwind also gets "uncapped"

[strong forum]

9.1.5 doesn't introduce anything prot specific thats worth mentioning

Covenant swaps, maybe interesting

But that's bout it

Can continue to afk until 9.2

[sick sentinel]

so, ww will do base + 160% for arms

[strong forum]

For every one

It's just listed under arms because it's an "arms conduit"

Because only arms has bladestorm baseline

[sick sentinel]

I’ll probably my do the rounds to get all the xmogs and mount then end up back at Kyrian

yeah, this is why i want to go venthyr first

rogue upset that i wasn't taking devos close to blue circle

[lofty widget]

can tormentors get bolstered?

[mellow bridge]

nah

only thing they get affected by is inspiring for w/e reason

[lofty widget]

yeah i remembered inspiring but wasnt sure if other affixes affected them

[mellow bridge]

I'm like 95% sure it doesnt

[blazing condor]

Cant they just fix inspiring on tormentors

Like

Whats the reason

”If we dont fix it this one niche pull in mists might be too easy grr”

[woven laurel]

is unstoppable force any good?

[mighty valley]

No, not any more

They shifted the damage out of TC after BFA

So a talent focused on improving something weak isn’t great

[woven laurel]

makes sense thanks

it becoming capped prob didnt hellp either

[sick sentinel]

damage from decanter (m+) and viscera on a +13

[craggy pilot]

wow 9.1.5 release date out, but Legion TW is postponed? what
will there even be any new stuff to do in 9.1.5?

[tropic gorge]

without the tw, not really

imo

[craggy pilot]

so no reason to sub until december, got it thx

[mighty valley]

it’s a mid-patch, they don’t usually have new content at all

can just mess around with other covenants or level alts without having to do all the repeat stuff again

[craggy pilot]

if thats the case, then its coming at a very weird time 😄

[mighty valley]

we live in a weird time, man

[craggy pilot]

still no news of 9.2 though

if it even happens 🤷

[mighty valley]

why would they start talking about 9.2 before this patch is out

[craggy pilot]

because its 8 months since 9.1 came out?

[digital arch]

2.2K IO !!!!

[mighty valley]

9.1 came out in June

[crude notch]

8 months?

Is it Feb already?

[honest plinth]

gz my man

[craggy pilot]

9.1 was anounced in Feb

was what i meant, my b 😄

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Patch_9.1.0

[sick sentinel]

question I ran spires and they reset pulled #2 before we did anima

what's the purpose of doing that

I don't think you can remove lust thing m+ so can't be that

[ancient monolith]

probably dps have all their cooldowns up

[sick sentinel]

whoever executed it called for it anyway brb 5 min

[mellow bridge]

they did what?

not quite understanding you

[mighty valley]

Reset 2nd boss before the tormented miniboss I’m guessing

It just despawns the boss for a bit to prevent anyone fucking up and pulling it

[violet violet]

The boss randomly sprints around it’s arena

But if you pull and reset the boss, it doesn’t sprint around the arena

So there’s no chance of accidentally pulling the boss into the tormentor

Because the boss can get very close to the tormentor

[mighty cairn]

hello with the target cap on whirlwind being removed will it be optimal to press whirlwind now sometimes in m+?

[sick sentinel]

guy went up to 2nd boss and reset him despawn before we did anima guy

spires, unsure why they did it

[mellow bridge]

ahh

[lofty widget]

they do it cause the boss zips around and theres a risk to body pull it while doing tormentor

[mellow bridge]

i see now

[lofty widget]

and resetting him stops the zipping

[mellow bridge]

yeah what chim says

quite a time waste but i guess at that key lvl it's fine

[sick sentinel]

ah, just an idiot proof thing

[mellow bridge]

yep

[mighty valley]

No, still just worse than revenge which has the same aoe cap rules already

Although someone was talking about a specific build that maximizes ww... doubt it's worth the effort

[sick sentinel]

the core issue of not using WW is because its 30 rage, instead of 20 and there is no buffs in prot for it

[modern brook]

Ww is less damage, doesn't refresh deep wounds, and costs more rage, and until 9.1.5 is target capped

It's inferior in literally every way

[sick sentinel]

honestly, legit delete WW from prot spec entirely

i literal never even casted ww once all of SL

[mighty valley]

it was deleted

one of those weird baseline additions

post-bofa

[urban portal]

Just like how they made shield block baseline

Weird hamp

[dim token]

The SL spellbook bloat 🤷‍♂️

Can’t believe someone that actually plays the game would come up with this idea

I doubt anyone would ever cast them in their lifetime besides being a beginner trap

[mighty valley]

shrug, a lot of people complained about the pruning around legion time

[crude notch]

Some day I’ll understand why people are so passionate about their hatred for them adding it back.

Did you know?

You don’t have to use the ability of you don’t want to. 🙂

[ebon geyser]

That mage tower set is SO ugly

[mighty valley]

good looking plate is so rare

[sick sentinel]

why not just properly balance it forever from a lore, and gameplay wise once you find what works shine it, slowly change what sucks.

[ancient reef]

whats reknown cap this week

[mighty valley]

80

[ancient reef]

hows the whole reknown thing work for .5 on alts

are you just insta 40

[mighty valley]

once you've hit 80 on a main i think you can buy a token to send alts that jumps them to 40

[modern brook]

lmao ppl were bitching about the wod spell pruning leading into sl

oh harrow beat me to it

TBH revenge should be baseline

for all classes

and it should become ww for fury'

[crude notch]

False

[brave jetty]

set is great, colors suck

[acoustic fjord]

I like the set and the colors :)

Idk how I feel about the DK set. It matches the necrolord scheme. Almost like blizz wants DKs to only be necrolord.

[strong forum]

I absolutely despise the colours of the mage tower set

Ez skip

[jagged pier]

im gunna try on ptr after work for fun

but mwahi said its not fun

[autumn pendant]

@strong forum dew it

[shut summit]

was pretty ez

[jagged pier]

maybe for u sense

but u legit just get base class in mage tower from what mwahi was saying

so its kinda not fun

[shut summit]

yea base classes are bland

go figure

[strong forum]

If you pay my sub

[autumn pendant]

K

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/pogging-gif-19709235

[gaunt dawn]

you cheated 😡

or did you

[shut summit]

no

[gaunt dawn]

😮

[shut summit]

didn't use any weird scaling shit just live gear

[gaunt dawn]

What adds does warrior have?

same as pala?

just debuff + big swings

[shut summit]

Ya

[gaunt dawn]

do they die quickly for warrior?

cos they do NOT for pala

you have to hard swap (or get MoP cloak proc)

[shut summit]

pretty quick

[gaunt dawn]

😦

Pala was harder back in the day

is harder now (but without damage props)

[strong forum]

Pala was omega hard week 1 cuz it legit had twice the health it should have

[jagged pier]

i member that

dat was a yikes

[ionic fern]

Smh,i was not having a good time. Always rage starved,st damage is horrid before execute kicks in etc.

[shut summit]

I kept hitting my cov ability lol

[gaunt dawn]

same

my WA's were baiting me

HARD

I have muscle memory built up from Shadowlands to use it, and i can see on my WAs its off CD

[strong forum]

NF would be broken on tank challenge

Perma first strike

[autumn pendant]

[teal swift]

I wish it was pink white and blue

Prot warrior is getting more and more fun

[mellow gorge]

6.2k dps?

what dungeon was that

jesus

and was it reprisal?

[strong forum]

6.2, I know you can do more

But you're getting there

[jagged pier]

dont nome

he'll get the cat gif out agian

[strong forum]

Somebody needs to motivate others

[jagged pier]

KEKW

[mellow gorge]

here i thought my average with 4.6k was good

then again, that's with wall, but still

[teal swift]

mists

[mellow gorge]

ah

that explains it

[teal swift]

fucking bolstering murdering reasonable pulls

I pull way more

in dungeons i can actually pull more than 1 pack at a time

[mellow gorge]

yeah

bolstering sucks

[mellow gorge]

i can't feel tanky when someone with 6 stacks slaps my ass

i shudder at the thought of tenderize + mutiliate + 3 bolster stacks

[teal swift]

ty for the kind words

[mellow gorge]

gotta edit that gif at some point

to include pfps

[teal swift]

100%

i dont have the skill

[mellow gorge]

hmmm

[forest walrus]

are we posting dps hype?

https://i.imgur.com/47vWsLv.png

[mellow gorge]

deepeeS

[forest walrus]

that's my personal favourite so far

found a terrible 250 mage that made me look good

[mellow gorge]

even MW pumpin

[teal swift]

My fafvourite key is sanguine

[mellow gorge]

250???

[teal swift]

i smash the fuck out of the gauntlet at the end

[forest walrus]

yeah, no idea what he was doing

[teal swift]

saves so much time

[mellow gorge]

i've had a 205 frost deal 5k dps...

gauntlet is only fun with venthyr people

pop that lantern and go ham

[teal swift]

oh

[forest walrus]

oh, I was lying, he was 248

[teal swift]

My strat is simple, effectively ignore kaal

[mellow gorge]

doesn't justify the wack dps

[teal swift]

and pull through the entire gauntlet

then kill at the end

[mellow gorge]

when i do ignore kaal, i lose threat and see dps get slapped

[teal swift]

how

[mellow gorge]

don't ask

[teal swift]

You should be spamming revenge

and ravager

[mellow gorge]

i am

[teal swift]

how do you e ven lose threat as a warrior

outside of th epull

[mellow gorge]

i don't even know

[teal swift]

O.o

[mellow gorge]

i go to pull the 2nd pack

1 second didn't dps

suddenly see all bars go red

[teal swift]

lol

[mellow gorge]

i don't know what kind of roided dps i get, or if they are taunting for me,

[teal swift]

Revenge it a bit

charge to next pack

revenge a bit

charge to first pack

combine, drop spear

[mellow gorge]

ye

[teal swift]

as it dies, get 3rd

[mellow gorge]

ye exactly

[teal swift]

and 4th, youre through gauntlet in like 3.5 minutes

I need a new pfp

[mellow gorge]

the 2 packs that are blocking the lantern are my favourite

put your vulpera

as your pfp

just pull both packs, LoS, pop lantern

big slaps

[teal swift]

nah i have some secret search terms

[mellow gorge]

secret search terms???

I fear

[teal swift]

cute anime profile soundcloud

soundcloud users for some reason have giga pog things to steal

[mellow gorge]

oh

fair enough

i only like very obscure pfps

that make little to no sense as to why to use it

[teal swift]

THis should work

[mellow gorge]

though anime pfps are overrated

[jagged pier]

i didnt do anything this time

[teal swift]

You right

https://tenor.com/view/hug-anime-gif-15793126

@jagged pier

[jagged pier]

[mellow gorge]

wholesome

[teal swift]

At the end of the day, My friends here help me improve :3

[mellow gorge]

that's what friends are for woo

[jagged pier]

that what we are here for

[mellow gorge]

that should give me enough reason to stop pugging

but alas,

i pug

[jagged pier]

i pug

[teal swift]

Uh

ngl, i prefer to pug

[jagged pier]

and if we linking dps

[mellow gorge]

my man

[teal swift]

I like my healer, but when i pug 3 dps

we time like every 16/17 key

[mellow gorge]

h o w

[teal swift]

lol

[mellow gorge]

yeah i had a key on spires

the DH never incapped the mob on the stairs

[teal swift]

Fast completion time

[jagged pier]

pppl still incap that mob?

[mellow gorge]

then warrior DCed mid jump

i mean when you don't have any way to jump it

gotta incap

[jagged pier]

just invis belt

[mellow gorge]

broke ass pugs didn't have invis

[teal swift]

What

Thats your fault

ask literally every single person

before you start the key

[jagged pier]

just pull the pack anyways SoA has so much time

[iron ravine]

How do you put those covenant symbols in details?

[mellow gorge]

but anywho

outside of that

[teal swift]

We broke an 18 spires

[jagged pier]

addon

[teal swift]

because we didnt have an immunity for boss 3

[mellow gorge]

we waited for well over 6 minutes in that 3rd area,

safe to say we didn't time it

[teal swift]

and alll the melee ate the balls

the plan was for me to eat all the balls, then brez me

instantly

and then kill the fucker

[mellow gorge]

so

the dps were noble

and sacrificed themselves

instead?

[teal swift]

what actually happened:
The dps all suicided
Then I died.
Then the warlock rage quit

As long as i have my healer

idgaf what class they are

2300-2400 total rating

is plenty

so i slow fill with people that time harder keys

[mellow gorge]

wait that's plenty?

[teal swift]

For 20 and blow?

fuck yes lol

[mellow gorge]

to me anything that is 1800 is good

2200 is god tier

[teal swift]

Yikes

[mellow gorge]

I have low expectations for pugs

[teal swift]

I wouldnt take a 10/10 m raider

that had 1800 score

unless they had a sick fucking main linked

[autumn pendant]

2200 god tier is really having low standards

[mellow gorge]

yeahh, i just pug anyone that did the key at the same level

[teal swift]

I wait it out

like we ran

[mellow gorge]

I have just been brainwashed by pugging experience

I've been fooled by rio so many times aswell

[teal swift]

Prot warrior, fury warrior, rshaman, f eral druid, and destro lock

healer and i are like 2k and change

everyone else was 2300

i as so tilted

when they did that retarded shit

[mellow gorge]

you see

even with high rio

you can never tell if someone truly is a pepega

[teal swift]

I mean

it hasnt failed me much yet

except the 2300 boomkin

who pulled 200 more dps than me

in 16 dos

[mellow gorge]

????

how

[teal swift]

but my dps is high enough to carry 1 pepega

[mellow gorge]

my healer once outdpsed a boomkin

resto shammy did 4k

and boomy did 3.6k

[teal swift]

how

do you pull 3.6k

i pull more than that single target

like ???

[mellow gorge]

i pull

3 packs or 4

[jagged pier]

pretty ez

u just press buttons

[teal swift]

my healer doesnt get to DPS that hard

[jagged pier]

[teal swift]

because i pull likke an asshole

[mellow gorge]

the thing is

[ocean reef]

Boomie brains

[teal swift]

and prioritize revenge over IP

unless its dangerous pull

[mellow gorge]

my healer friend pulls for me

when they want more dps

so they plop vesper totem and /dance while i struggle

[teal swift]

No one pulls extra shit

[ocean reef]

Besides the fact that if they can't use their cds properly, or just don't do it properly, their damage is non-existent

[autumn pendant]

Shame on you

[teal swift]

idk where someone is going to intentionally pull extra shit on bolstering week

If they do

they will almost 100% wipe us

[jagged pier]

u pull as much as u can if the dps can manage hp

[teal swift]

and im too puspus to pull left into shard with big pack

on bolstering week

[mellow gorge]

Bolstered Gorgons...

[teal swift]

You kite those

bolstering bleed

fuck that noise

[ocean reef]

Slow them and hope a melee wont get clapped by one while you're kiting

[teal swift]

i slap revenge so many times

[mellow gorge]

Its not the bleed as it is their instacast

[teal swift]

that i can kite lol

[mellow gorge]

The stonebite

Fuckin hurts

[teal swift]

Vespa

what server you play on

NA horde?

[mellow gorge]

No

Ew

also EU alliance

[teal swift]

Disgusting

fucking alliance

[mellow gorge]

Ew

[teal swift]

I'd play on EU

but like, i dont wanna reroll accont

its only 120 ping for me

maybe 180

i get like 100 in NA

[mellow gorge]

Not bad ping

[teal swift]

really though, if I was going to play on EU

id 100% pressure @waxen junco to play with me, as ai have a massive crush on him.

[mellow gorge]

Honestly id swap to NA for the sole reason

Of 200k tokens

Instead of 300k here

[jagged pier]

id swap to NA to steal yuzu cute healer

[teal swift]

FUCK YOu

[mellow gorge]

O ye

[ocean reef]

[mellow gorge]

Yuzu's healer seems good

Id like to yoink them for a while

You can have my healer, my shammy likes to dps more than healing

[ocean reef]

Prot channel is devolving as well

[jagged pier]

what do u mean devolving always been this way

[ocean reef]

Whenever I look in here it seems peaceful

Guess I've been lied to

[jagged pier]

well

reasonable peaceful

we were fired up yesterday

[ocean reef]

Maybe it's just that I always see @sweet summit type in here

[jagged pier]

a lot of linking of music

[ocean reef]

[autumn pendant]

Come to fury

[jagged pier]

@sweet summit is a naughty boi atm

[autumn pendant]

:)

[teal swift]

Honestly, the only thing holding me back from +20's is 1. getting the keys. 2. Finding DPS that can actually kick casts.

[autumn pendant]

Smh

[teal swift]

You wouldnt beleive how depressing it is

to fucking find a dps that can use kick button

[mellow gorge]

On mists, my healer would leave me to die for 6k overall dps

[jagged pier]

u dont need dps to actually kick, case in point 1 i pugged all 20s early on in the season so nothing got kicked, and 2 im dpsing for some friends and i dont click i just press execute

[ocean reef]

I was there during the start of 9.1

[jagged pier]

[ocean reef]

When venth was a thing

Bad times

[mellow gorge]

O ye, dps kicking

Where do I find those

[teal swift]

I dont know how to explain it, but like if you combine the entire dungeon into 1 giant health bar

[unkempt palm]

Hey all I checked the pins and didn’t see anything, I’m terrible at making macros how would I go about a macro to /say that my spell reflect is up please don’t kick ?

[teal swift]

and your DPS arent kicking shit, and no on e is pulling enough dps

you just fail to time.

im working on it though.

I want full set of 20's

[mellow gorge]

Had a ToP where no one kicked bone spear

Very fun.

[teal swift]

im pretty sure, i can do 20's on a good push week

[jagged pier]

👀

[teal swift]

like last week was necro

this week bolstering

im on vacation for most of next week

[mellow gorge]

Imagine having issues with necro, lol just reroll dwarf

[teal swift]

I wasnt having issue

[jagged pier]

should just be
/y dont inturpt spell reflect up
/cast Spell Reflect

[teal swift]

i can eat like 50-80 stacks

per pull

it just depends how fast i get the stacks

and the damage shape

[unkempt palm]

Thanks!

[teal swift]

it prevents me from pulling big

[autumn pendant]

I was there for years

[teal swift]

Soi does this week

[mellow gorge]

Ye i just pull big the usual, get 50 in 2 seconds

And then forget to stoneform

And die

[ocean reef]

It's a bad time man

It's pure cope in there

Fury owns

Wow owns

[teal swift]

But yeah, im getting better. I hope to be good enough to start working on portals soon

[autumn pendant]

I mean i aint coping

[ocean reef]

🗞️

[autumn pendant]

I was there in SL beta channels

[teal swift]

I unironically like the game, but prot warrior is my favourite tank

wish it could get a buff

[autumn pendant]

That was real meme

[mellow gorge]

Working on portals?

[teal swift]

I have a perfect argument as to why I should be stormforged.

@ionic fern

Yuzu's are yellow.

[jagged pier]

🤔

[timber junco]

Pretty sure I can do 20s when I replace my uh. 207 shield

[mellow gorge]

Bruh

[timber junco]

Doing 18s just fine

[mellow gorge]

Wait what ilvl is the minimum for 20s?

[teal swift]

Bruh

[jagged pier]

whatever your comfortable in

[teal swift]

I'd say 226-230

[jagged pier]

there is no minimum requirement

[mellow gorge]

Brueh

[teal swift]

is sufficient.

[mellow gorge]

Here i am thinking I need to be 240

Sitting at a crisp 236

[teal swift]

gear doesnt get you far enough

gear aint gonna time a 25

[timber junco]

I'm 232 with a 207 shield /cry

[jagged pier]

u dont need ot be anything and u dont need an x amount of stats

[mellow gorge]

Its probably mostly about pugging experience, needing more gear to get accepted

[teal swift]

Like, honestly. Gear is a crutch tht makes it easier, but if you could time high high keys, its about technique

not about gear

its like the 230 dps

that pull like 6k on AOE

and youre like wtf is wrong with you

[mellow gorge]

Ngl, the fact i managed to average 6.5k with arms, no trinkets or legendary at 232

Trinkets as in offensive trinkets*

Makes me wonder if people really hit their buttons

[teal swift]

ikr?

i dont get it

in CN you get people who hit their buttons at 213

all of a sudden you get the EXACTLY SAME DPS
from people who are 230

and yourel ike what the fuck are you literally doing

[autumn pendant]

@timber junco there are so many ways that you can get high r ilvl

Even guaranteed

Stop slacking

👀

[timber junco]

From where

Cause shit ain't dropping

Ive done over 100 shield dropping keys

I have valor cap ready to get one from even a M+ to uograde the shit out of it

[mellow gorge]

Ngl, makes me glad I got shield from vault

Shield is very gud

[strong forum]

Just get a shield? Lmao

[mellow gorge]

Can't you buy a crafted one?

Similar to the 230 neck

[ionic fern]

What's a Yuzu?

[mellow gorge]

Something that's yellow, apparently

[teal swift]

These are Yuzus

[ocean reef]

They just look like bloated lemons

[mellow gorge]

Obese lemon

[teal swift]

Yuzus are actually super tasty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuzu

I love them, esp when i make home made sake blended soysauce ponzu

[ocean reef]

👀

[mellow gorge]

Home made sake???

[teal swift]

Nah

you blend your own soy sauce

with ingredients

sake, its still soy sauce

[mellow gorge]

Oh :(

[teal swift]

yuzu it become ponzu

[mellow gorge]

No alcholic beverage

Am sad

How can i fulfill my dream of becoming a Brewmaster monk, when I can't even make alcohol

[ocean reef]

Just make some moonshine

[sweet summit]

isn't that illegal

[teal swift]

Is it illegal?

[ocean reef]

Who knows I don't live in the states

[mellow gorge]

Its not illegal if you dont get caught

[teal swift]

I jus tbuy everclear 190 proof

95% alcohol is nice for mixing

[sweet summit]

[teal swift]

Hey Erga

the least toxic person in discord

how are you

[sweet summit]

very tired

[ocean reef]

[sweet summit]

played some pokemon rom hack for 7 hours after raid yesterday

and did not get enough sleep

[mellow gorge]

7 hours?

Of pokemon?

Madlad.

[sweet summit]

yes

[ocean reef]

Did you catch Pikachu

[sweet summit]

2300->0630

i did not

[ocean reef]

Haven't played Pokemon since the Gameboy days

Pokemon silver

[mellow gorge]

Did you catch a pidgeotto?

I heard they needed a master ball

[sweet summit]

i did not

[ocean reef]

He caught me

[mellow gorge]

[ocean reef]

👀

[plush atlas]

Honestly dont notice the dmg intake

[teal swift]

gimme hug

[sweet summit]

👀

[teal swift]

ASDLKJHASDLKJHASD

WHY ARE YOU HERE

ALSDKJALSKDJALSKDJALSKDJ

[mellow gorge]

To be fair if the dps ain't dpsin

[teal swift]

PROTECT MY HEALER

[mellow gorge]

Tank is taking damage

[teal swift]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-notice-michael-weston-jeffrey-donovan-gun-gun-cock-gif-18299992

[mellow gorge]

Oh no

I fear.

[plush atlas]

lol

[sweet summit]

[teal swift]

This is my healer, this is the giga cute girl i talk about

fml

[mellow gorge]

Ah

[ocean reef]

Yo Gengar

[teal swift]

Now all these chads are going to take her from me

[sweet summit]

i love gengar

[mellow gorge]

Can you come heal for me :DD

[teal swift]

is this what it feels like to be cucked

[ocean reef]

[teal swift]

cloyster in pkmn b1

[mellow gorge]

My healer dpses and doesn't care about keeping me alive :DD

[teal swift]

was way better

[sweet summit]

no 😠

[teal swift]

Yes

Erga, dont you miss shell smash meta?

[plush atlas]

I dps most of the time vesper totem go brrrr. Honestly @teal swift has relatively smooth intake so its not noticeable

[teal swift]

UwU

my healer is complimenting me

Ley, date me already

we're both vulpera furries

its fate

[ocean reef]

👀

[sweet summit]

i don't know what the shell smash meta is

[teal swift]

D E S T I N Y

[mellow gorge]

Vesper totem does indeed go brrt, but my healer also likes lava burst, and can manage to reach my dps levels :(

[teal swift]

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/cloyster/

READ ABOUT IT HERE

[mellow gorge]

Last time I saw them cast a healing spell was a few dungeons ago, and it was on themselves

[teal swift]

Cloyster is an ice sweeper

[mellow gorge]

Big sadge

[teal swift]

that dominated uber meta

in pokemon black

lol

fuckers and their dragons

[mellow gorge]

O ye

I heard about cloyster being meta

At some point

There was i think another ability that made them unkillable

Iirc

[teal swift]

Cloyster, had skill link.

So the moves that hit 2-5 times, would always hit 5 times.
your buff move:
Lowers the user's Defense and Special Defense by 1 stage. Raises the user's Attack, Special Attack, and Speed by 2 stages.
your sweeper move:

Hits two to five times. Has a 35% chance to hit two or three times and a 15% chance to hit four or five times. If one of the hits breaks the target's substitute, it will take damage for the remaining hits. If the user has the Skill Link Ability, this move will always hit five times

base power of 125

100% accuracy 30pp

literally was so fucking tilting, only thing that pissed peopel of fmore

was the dodge evasion teams lol

[mellow gorge]

I think there was a meta at some point

That was a complicated setup

But it involved Pikachu and shedinja

Pikachu with balloon shares shedinja nature somehow

[sick sentinel]

confusion poison psychic spamming meta from series 1 is what I remember in pvp

[mellow gorge]

And becomes absolutely immune

Though not meta, but one hell of an invincinble strat if pulled off

[teal swift]

@ionic fern last oss of ToP, is it feasible to have an arms warrior

taunt for reflecting reaper?

or fury

[ocean reef]

Yes

Some people do that already

[jagged pier]

which one?

[mellow gorge]

That sounds

[sweet summit]

radical red

[mellow gorge]

Actually quite good

Taunt swapping to spell reflect

[jagged pier]

im on a play through of that right now

XD

[teal swift]

Who was the eurobeat fan last night?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvzsh9S-D_w

I wanted to link this

[sweet summit]

it owns

but there are too many cool pokemon

[teal swift]

what system?

[ocean reef]

You own

[sweet summit]

[restive ice]

[ocean reef]

[sweet summit]

vba

[jagged pier]

yer its great and the poke are awesome

[teal swift]

oh nice

We need a chad guild

2 prot warrior tanks, 4 rando healers

14 dps warriors

and try to CE like that

Imagine the DBS strats

thats up to 140 seconds of 100% parry

[mellow gorge]

I'll sign up to be a spectator

Also

Id imagine rallying cry

[ocean reef]

Eurobeat has nothing on Eurodance

[mellow gorge]

Every minute

[teal swift]

I love eurodance

what years are we talking?

[mellow gorge]

16 warriors in total, thats alot of rallying cries...

[ocean reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgs9QUtWc3M&ab_channel=AliceDeejay

These years

[teal swift]

oh

1999 was fucking smashing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxXWjq4MRGU

This is a little later, but its based on gerrman eurodance like ATC

BeFour is omega under rated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymNFyxvIdaM @ocean reef Here this slaps

[ocean reef]

Everyone by now should have heard Freestyler at least once in their life

Basshunter though is the true classic

[teal swift]

have you heard freestylo?

[ocean reef]

Listening to it while playing on TBC Private servers in 2007

[teal swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2QlrxIkwjw

[ocean reef]

Never heard this

[teal swift]

its such a fucking meme but it slaps

banezi i can send you some random shit youve proolly never heard

[strong forum]

Freestylo is internet history

Wdym you never heard of it

God damn zoomers

[brittle owl]

next thing i'll see is people not knowing about ken lee

fucking zoomers

[autumn pendant]

Honor, conquest is guaranteed. Korthia is rng but upgradable

[ocean reef]

[tropic gorge]

The last 2 days of chores in korthia have yielded a conduit upgrade item.
And both fucking days upgraded my victory rush conduit

.....

[blazing condor]

Ez

Now play impending victory

With full leech

[tropic gorge]

Lol

I guess that's what the game and rng wants me to do

The first upgrade I was okay with. Rng is rng. But to get it upgraded twice in a row pissed me off

[mellow bridge]

It's based on ilvl

If you got it twice in a row, it means for the first one it was your lowest ilvl one

[teal swift]

This is how i rate these seasons affixes

Green = Push

Yellow = eh do whatever

Red = Try not to self harm

@plush atlas We push on yellow and green weeks, uncoloured we fuck with, red, please dont let me tank.

or dps hjgh keys

[unkempt palm]

Hey ask another question: any prot war streamers outside of plka?

Hey all*

[teal swift]

plka is the only warrior to watch :happy:

[plush atlas]

bursting volcanic tyran should be green i can take it my body is ready

[unkempt palm]

Lol yeah he’s good stuff for sure and I watch but wondering if there are others to watch when he’s not on

[ocean reef]

@sweet summit when stream

[sweet summit]

stream what

[ocean reef]

everything

every single moment of your life

and when you do those keys you seem to play like a god in

[sweet summit]

keys

[ocean reef]

[sweet summit]

[ocean reef]

[jagged pier]

theres sense, Nome (whenever he streams), i think andy or nerf start playing warrior recently?

me if i can every be bothered

[teal swift]

Are we gonna get nerfclap back

And ergo, actual prot warrior attention?

[jagged pier]

who says prot isnt getting attention 👀

we all play in here

is that not enough?

[brittle owl]

why would you care about attention

isn't being a snowflake all the rage these days

[jagged pier]

apprently if its not popular its bad

[teal swift]

I mean correlation isn't causation

[ocean reef]

The less attention you have while you're middle of the pack, the better

Because the less chance there is for you to get worse

[teal swift]

But prot warrior representstion is gigs low

[jagged pier]

again why does representation matter?

if u like the class play it

and you have a group to play with

so u dont even need ot care about stigma

[brittle owl]

you get more clout for making an unpopular pick look good

than being a conformist fotm sperg

[jagged pier]

like some of us at the start of the expansion

get clout get added by about 30 ppl from doing mythic + never play with them again

[teal swift]

I am

I love my warrior idgaf how bad it is

Or good it is

[brittle owl]

charts

[teal swift]

But it is extremely unpopular compared to others

[ocean reef]

📈

[jagged pier]

again why does this matter?

and your looking at 25 + keys? only

[teal swift]

Ye

[mellow gorge]

look at the general keys

[mellow gorge]

over 25 there are barely any tanks that don't do the big dam red or big dam

smh

[teal swift]

I mean

[mellow gorge]

not just 20 and above

all key levels

[teal swift]

Fuck no

You so t even need a tank for 15s

[mellow gorge]

bruh

[teal swift]

You can literally 4 dps

And healer, or 4 dps and tank

20s should be baseline

[mellow gorge]

ye that's better

[jagged pier]

wow 15 and up which actually most players dont even get to

we arent behind

[teal swift]

Wait what

[mellow gorge]

20's and 25's are a small playerbase

[teal swift]

400k players get ksm

[mellow gorge]

they aren't as big as 10s and 15s

[teal swift]

200k players get full 20s

[ocean reef]

Is it unique players or players who get it on their alts

[teal swift]

All

[mellow gorge]

i think all

[ocean reef]

Considering valor upgrades aren't account bound

account wide rather

[mellow gorge]

at 15's all tanks are played at a rather healthy amount

anything beyond 20 and so is just going to be meta

[teal swift]

15s are a joke tho

[mellow gorge]

for us

maybe

for casual players

[ocean reef]

You have a lot of people struggle with 10s

[mellow gorge]

it's the highest they will reach

[teal swift]

What's the ksm penetration this season

Isn't it like 25%

[ocean reef]

Funky word to use

But not sure what you mean with that

[jagged pier]

look okay u would be suprised but like a majority of the player base doesnt even do like + 5s

if u do 15s

u are a very small %

[mellow gorge]

ye

25's is literally the tip of the iceberg

[teal swift]

Are you srs?

[brittle owl]

he is

[ocean reef]

There are a fair amount of people in here as well who look for help in how to do better in keys and they typically speak about the 10-15 range

[mellow gorge]

based on WoWhead

[jagged pier]

yes

[mellow gorge]

only 15% have ksm 2

so yeah, we are a small playerbase at 15s

smaller at 20s

[brittle owl]

that's 15% of profiles registered on wowhead afaik

[mellow gorge]

and miniscule at 25s

[mellow gorge]

hmm, let's round it up to 20% then

at max

[brittle owl]

if anything it's less

[jagged pier]

^^

[brittle owl]

since you're less likely to register a wowhead profile the more casual you play

[teal swift]

I disagree

There are two forces

The more casual you are, the less likely you are to spend a lot of time researching

The more casual you are the more likely you are to interact with randoms in comment sections.

What happened to the armory scraper

[brittle owl]

so the more casual you are, the more you spend time on the subject

[mellow gorge]

though besides the point, not alot of people have KSM this season

therefore not alot of people doing 15's and such

[brittle owl]

pmuch

[mellow gorge]

and in turn, even fewer push to 20s and i can probably count who are doing 25s

[teal swift]

I don't wanna do 15s either

[brittle owl]

people engaging in m+ at the 15 or higher level is a miniscule portion of the playerbase

[teal swift]

I wanna push

I want my 20s and I want them with my healer.

Me and her against the world

[mellow gorge]

It's fair enough if you wanna push, but you gotta know the % of tanks in higher keys, as we saw, 40% are bears due to meta and bears being busted

so it's going to be more strict on the margin of errors, and therefore even if a tank performs 1% better, they will go for that tank

[teal swift]

Jakey convinced me that 20s are unimpressive and you can meme through them with any comp

@jagged pier

How do portal unlcks work?

Timed 20, or completed 21?

[mellow gorge]

Have you done 20s yuzu? or not yet

[teal swift]

Not yet, still building DPS roster for key team

So we're pugging 2-3 people a key

[ocean reef]

Timed 20s

And you get the port

[jagged pier]

just time a 20 u get it

[teal swift]

I heard you could ubtime a 21 and get it

[mellow gorge]

When you get to em, you'll see high keys aren't really memeable I bet

[teal swift]

I meme through 17/18s

On weeks that aren't very fun

[sick sentinel]

i don't feel like doing any 23's any time soon

[teal swift]

So when we get a push week, I'm expecting 19/20 keys

[sick sentinel]

best key i ever did was 2 chest a 16 junkyard to my knowledge

[mellow gorge]

We will see

[teal swift]

I'll keep you updated tho

[sick sentinel]

i think i timed like 1 other 16

[teal swift]

From my past experience

S2 sl is easier than s4 bfa

[ocean reef]

Afaik it's just 20s and above timed

And you get the port

[mellow gorge]

Best I've done was a 16 HoA this patch with 8 deaths

[sick sentinel]

and then i quit past 15s

[ocean reef]

Tiny bit of coordination and 20s are a quote "meme"

[teal swift]

I should've had an 18 spires to ight but fucking ligs

[sick sentinel]

i hate halls and to a certain extent, theatre now

[teal swift]

And top 17-18 is free

Flexible timer, easy bosses

[sick sentinel]

no idea how they got left behind but final teleporter platform they didn't come same time as me

[ocean reef]

Scuff a pull or two in ToP and you'll be hella tight for time

[sick sentinel]

i think they said they were dealing with the teal bonespikes

[mellow gorge]

+, screw up a pack on the floating platforms and you'll be starved for time

[teal swift]

There is one hard pull I. Top

It's the soulstorm tucker and two casters

[sick sentinel]

you really do have to stop and wait for everyone to be standing at teleporter near full hp

[teal swift]

My healer can heal us through it, but holy fuck that platform is cancer

[sick sentinel]

and then you go in and like 0.5-2s later they come

[teal swift]

If I had to do it on 19-20 this week I might actually skip it and do side packs

[sick sentinel]

thats the only way to idiot proof those platforms

[mellow gorge]

can't heal through bonespear or death winds kickin someone off lol

[ocean reef]

Interrupting the volley is essential there

And that's about it

[teal swift]

Just interrupt

[ocean reef]

Save rally for the storm

[teal swift]

DPS double bolster Into soul storm

And healer cries

As they self harm trying to keep the team alive

[sick sentinel]

that sounds incredibly accurate to what happened

[teal swift]

LOP

Fucking pugs

My healer can keep us alive but holy fuck it gets rough

I actuslly find mistd to be one of the tightest keys

The 30 minute timer feels a bit too tight atm

[mellow gorge]

mists is tight??

[autumn pendant]

Idk if i missed any context but i could solo dps 15/16s in bfa season 4

[mellow gorge]

i find that hard to believe

[autumn pendant]

Inflation ofc

[teal swift]

Mists has a tight timer now

30 minutes

[sick sentinel]

then after we killed 2 (i call everything boss 1 2 3 4 now after calling out the place im talking about, like how in doom you'd call the first map of the first episode E:1. M:1, so third episode 7th lvl would be 3-7)

[teal swift]

You basicslly save most of your time in the last section

Which requires managing multiple stags

[sick sentinel]

old doom shortening of names to more quickly reference things

[teal swift]

But, it's by far the tightest key for timer

Wish they'd add like 2-3 minutes to timer

[sick sentinel]

mists is only bad if the fox freezes people or not

[teal swift]

In contrast, nw is a 43 minute timer and gives you items to delete the dungeon

[ocean reef]

People messing up the maze doors and forcing you to re-run through it

[mellow gorge]

DoS is the tightest dungeon

[teal swift]

Dos is free

They added 3 minutes

[mellow gorge]

since when?

cause it feels like all or nothing

[teal swift]

Since 9.0

[mellow gorge]

never inbetween

[teal swift]

And they added 3 minutes

[jagged pier]

all this talk of tight dungeons :kreygasm:

[mellow gorge]

even then, still a tight key

[ocean reef]

[jagged pier]

[mellow gorge]

either you time it with seconds left or you don't time it at all

[teal swift]

SD is the easiest key to 2* outside of nw for us

[sick sentinel]

there is alot of problem and pain pulls in DOS at the start as well too

[teal swift]

What?

[ocean reef]

#protection seems like a horndog gathering

[jagged pier]

[mellow gorge]

mists is easy to +2 for me, DoS is just a clusterfuck

giga pull everything, annihilate the bosses, and then screw up one mechanic that delays you by one minute and you're time starved

[teal swift]

Dos is free as fuck

[mellow gorge]

ye idk, not for me

[sick sentinel]

i hate halls something always goes wrong with the pulls

[teal swift]

I literally wasted a minute cause I fucked uo and missed 1% in arden

And had to go back for it

[mellow gorge]

anything with gorgons you kite, that's about it w halls

yeah i never had that

i always killed with the last boss with seconds left

that is if it's timed

[teal swift]

We brick a lot of keys this is depressing

[sick sentinel]

i don't have it but there is bell curve image of caveman one side, chad the other, and rage wojak "nooo you can't just x" other sides are "i just press buttons" referring how to play PW

[teal swift]

Vespa, do you build your own routes yet?

[mellow gorge]

used to

for prideful

but now i'm not as concerned for routes

since pulling a small extra pack doesn't really affect me

[teal swift]

SD is by far easiest key, wish we could get a smooth first pull on a 17-18 this week

[mellow gorge]

this one would've been timed, but we wiped at hakkar cause of his patented fuck you blood barrier at %1 have fun

[teal swift]

In 16dos

[mellow gorge]

in 16

i'm telling you

[teal swift]

Hakkar kill time was 45s

[mellow gorge]

DoS is a curse for me