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mellow gorge
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D:

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my eyes

ionic plank
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ill fite u

mellow gorge
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please don't

ionic plank
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no one likes my sleazy bdsm goblin look sadge

mellow gorge
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you look like an armed pimp

ionic plank
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that's the look I was going for really

mellow gorge
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well you nailed it

ionic plank
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but a very low-end dirty pimp

mellow gorge
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you need a fedora

ionic plank
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not a fancy schmancy fur coat and cane kinda pimp

mellow gorge
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heh, use the nathria armor for fur pants

ionic plank
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I got these shoulders from torghast and really liked them

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so wanted to build a set around those specifically

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wait it got rid of one of mine too wtf

jagged pier
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something to do with the ability to tmog different shoulders i think

mellow gorge
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wait as in

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like one shoulder is not on?

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or just gone from the armoury

ionic plank
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gone from the armoury

mellow gorge
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did blizzard fruit bowl it?

ionic plank
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can only see the right shoulder on armoury

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when I have 2 in game

mellow gorge
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oh

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weird

strong forum
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Ye thats a bug currently

teal swift
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Blizzard needs to make shields that dont look like shit

mellow gorge
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the only shield that's worth using is the hidden one from legion

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anything other than that

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is absolute garbage

teal swift
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hidden one?

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show

ionic plank
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might need to go back and get the weapon appearances for warrior, are they all still available apart from mage tower?

mellow gorge
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these ones

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the one that i had in my mog

ionic plank
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my warrior was my character boost at the end of legion

jagged pier
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u get the armour sets now

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the weps u cant get

mellow gorge
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well he did say apart from mage tower

teal swift
gaunt dawn
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ok hear me out

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what if

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warrior armor mod went up

teal swift
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This is only shield i like

jagged pier
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we already got that panth

gaunt dawn
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ye but more

teal swift
mellow gorge
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i like kite shields too much

teal swift
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Only fucking sh ield that doesnt clip

jagged pier
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i dunno i likes the SS talent idea but it doesnt fix anything

mellow gorge
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and the scale warder is just too good

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the effects on it, the design

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feels like a proper dragon scale shield

jagged pier
ionic plank
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are still available

gaunt dawn
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from armor?

ionic plank
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?

gaunt dawn
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pre buffs

mellow gorge
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i think so?

ionic plank
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a shame because the prot warrior flail is sick

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but I didnt play warrior :/

mellow gorge
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mug best weapon

jagged pier
gaunt dawn
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thats too much ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

jagged pier
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im at like max gear

mellow gorge
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i mean, we are meant to be very tanky against physical

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so i see no issue ig

strong forum
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Pwar has like 3.8k armor

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Already

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More armor isn't gonna fix anything

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Pally has 5k with sotr up + consec up ontop of that

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At all times

teal swift
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Give warriors a shield spike passive

strong forum
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We have SB up for 80-90% of the time if played correctly due to reprisal

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Shield spike isn't gonna solve St dmg issues

sweet summit
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iron fortress seanbee

strong forum
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Our aoe dmg is fine and iron fortress did laughably bad dmg

teal swift
jagged pier
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iron maiden conduit

sweet summit
strong forum
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Iron maiden would've been so nice...

sweet summit
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yea...

jagged pier
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ye

strong forum
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But hey instead we got show of force

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LOOOL

sweet summit
jagged pier
ionic fern
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Shows us the lack of Force. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

mellow gorge
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ah yes

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show of force

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if it did 50-60% maybe it'd be better

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but 20%?

teal swift
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What would make prot warrior more popular?

mellow gorge
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magic dam reduction

ionic fern
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No.

jagged pier
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no

mellow gorge
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more dam?

ionic fern
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Some random popular streamer playing it.

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And saying "Prot warrior is good".

jagged pier
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โ˜๏ธ

ionic fern
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And that's not even a joke. ๐Ÿ™‚

jagged pier
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โ˜๏ธ

teal swift
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Uhhh, who wants to bribe asmongold

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Retards seem to adore him

mellow gorge
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nah, he'll just wack on the class the after anything changes

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probably

jagged pier
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he cant play the spec

mellow gorge
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or that

jagged pier
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queue nomes gif

teal swift
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What can be do

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Like

mellow gorge
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one of us has to become popular

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apparently

teal swift
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I vote we make erga popular

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They are super cute

jagged pier
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erga is toxic as fuck

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KEK

teal swift
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They've been nothing but nice to me

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@sweet summit

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Love me

strong forum
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Pwar needs to be overpowered to be popular

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Pally is strong, yet its not popular

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Bdk isn't as strong

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But it's popular

teal swift
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Meanwhile bdk in keys feels like such ass

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And everyone loves them

mellow gorge
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pally is toppin the keys on raider tho

strong forum
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That's irrelevant

mellow gorge
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D:

strong forum
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That's Andy

teal swift
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If bdk had like double threat

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Might feel good

strong forum
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Every tank can literally be #1 tank

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Rn

teal swift
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I look at the representation,

sweet summit
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what the heck jakey

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i am very kind man

teal swift
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Not just what's #1

sweet summit
mellow gorge
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ye idk at this rate

teal swift
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Jakey literally victimizes me

mellow gorge
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to make prot used more, it either has to do astronomical dam

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or has to take no damage

sweet summit
mellow gorge
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to satisfy those who have 2 braincells

sweet summit
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how about both

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like in bfa

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ty

teal swift
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I've tried and played all the tanks at like a 50% mythic raid level

mellow gorge
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you raise a good point

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let's bring back thunderlcapper

sweet summit
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yes

jagged pier
teal swift
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Warrior feels good

mellow gorge
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the pummel sound effect

teal swift
mellow gorge
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and the shield slam sound effect

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mmm

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juicy

sweet summit
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playing with in game sound weird

mellow gorge
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nah

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i did it once when levelling

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never again

teal swift
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Erga is the kind man. Yuzu is the bird. Jakey is the feline menace

teal swift
mellow gorge
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Chinese punk music?

sweet summit
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hell yea

mellow gorge
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it don't mesh well with me

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i can't imagine it

teal swift
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It slaps

strong forum
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Yeah me neither haha

mellow gorge
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my ears

strong forum
mellow gorge
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are gone

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i am never playing from display

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ever again

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honestly at this, for the meme

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i just listen to "I miss the rage" on loop

sweet summit
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why is it so loud

teal swift
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Idk

mellow gorge
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yeah it blew away my eardrums

strong forum
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It rly isnt

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??

sweet summit
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what

strong forum
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Mobile Chads

mellow gorge
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bruh

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i'm on PC

sweet summit
mellow gorge
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D:

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i suffer

strong forum
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On mobile is omega OK

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Just lower your volume??

sweet summit
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no

mellow gorge
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the issue is

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when you play from the display

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it puts spoofy on 100% volume

jagged pier
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any nu disco chads in here?

sweet summit
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the what

jagged pier
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nu disco is chad music

sweet summit
teal swift
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Uh, I don't mind future funn

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Funk

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That's kinds like nu disco lmao

mellow gorge
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ngl

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the riff is nice

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but the chinese lyrics

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idk mane

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just don't mesh well

jagged pier
mellow gorge
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Imagine not listening to icelandic songs

teal swift
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We talking rvk?

mellow gorge
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Sigur Ros

teal swift
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Rvk dtr album slaps

mellow gorge
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post-rock

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very nice

teal swift
mellow gorge
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Honestly, when not singing in rock

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shit like this slaps

teal swift
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Who likes hardstyle?

mellow gorge
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icelandic lyrics do be making me a viking

jagged pier
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i listen to that as well its pog when u wanna chill

teal swift
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This is actuslly my favourite song. It co bines hardstyle and.... OdD

jagged pier
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tbf my eclectic range is massive

strong forum
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This song

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Is so chill

teal swift
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Yodel actuslly gets blood pumping

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Kme that's fucking pog as shit

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You ever listen to 1:15?

strong forum
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Doesn't ring a bell

teal swift
strong forum
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I don't listen to alot of weeb stuff

teal swift
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It's uh, idk what the fuck to call it.

mellow gorge
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oh lord, looking up that song name sounds terrible

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"Eyo, you heard of 22419? shit slaps!"

teal swift
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The mastering on it is so ass, but I think thats the aesthetic, reminds me of 100 gecs

strong forum
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I mean

mellow gorge
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I jest but

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there is a song that's roughly the same name

strong forum
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We all know C418

mellow gorge
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c418 is bae

teal swift
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Fuck what's the artist that has that one song that's the number for absolute zero

mellow gorge
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his albums outside of MC need more recognition

teal swift
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Uh wuick

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What's absolute zero

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Idk it's -xxx.15

strong forum
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Depends on which scale

teal swift
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I can't remember

strong forum
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0 kelvin or -273C or smth like that

teal swift
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Kk

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So 273.15

mellow gorge
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C418's "One" album is a banger

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need to listen to it again

teal swift
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Random music you've never heard

mellow gorge
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too fast for my ears to process D:

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i can only relate to the fax error sound effect

teal swift
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I used to listen to this fighting hexos lol

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God I was bad

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I miss brawlers guild

ionic plank
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omg

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hexos

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me too

teal swift
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When is it coming back? 9.2?

ionic plank
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og brawlers guild was so much fun

mellow gorge
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brawlers guild?

ionic plank
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unique solo bosses in wow

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in an arena setting

mellow gorge
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interesting

ionic plank
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it's still in the game but idk how it works now

strong forum
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If we're getting to fast stuff

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This

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Goes hard

ionic plank
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was the shit in 5.2

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or 5.1

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or whenever it was

mellow gorge
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ooo

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berserk

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nevermind not berserk that i know

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this is pure berserk

teal swift
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S3rl is a really nice guy

mellow gorge
teal swift
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Ive bad some conversations with him

mellow gorge
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fighting games ost slap hard

teal swift
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He's sweet heart

mellow gorge
teal swift
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Last song I'ma link tonight. This song slapsm really gets me in mood for tsnking

strong forum
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It's 1pm

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Banger @gaunt dawn

gaunt dawn
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yep

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only cerified bangers from me

strong forum
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๐Ÿ˜Ž

sick sentinel
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but its not bad

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weeby, but men

strong forum
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Rock and roll mcdonalds

teal swift
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There's some one direction eurobeat remixes that are lit

sick sentinel
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i dunno, call me crazy but eurobeat clubbin rave music just it almost does it for me but it just don't chief, you know?

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i like basically all music except shitty NA "GF took my truck after we broke up with me but i still got my dog and my gun" country western

ionic plank
teal swift
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There's some fun county

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I like dark country

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Shit like John moreland

north rampart
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Sinful Surge (Venthyr Runecarving Power) now extends the duration of Avatar (Talent) by 2.5 seconds when Condemn (Venthyr Ability) is cast (was Last Stand duration extended by 3 seconds).

jagged pier
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doesnt make it any better

north rampart
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big dps time

jagged pier
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alot of time i still have avatar up when the boss is already below 80%

north rampart
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hahahaha good point

jagged pier
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100-80 and 20-0 are the fastest parts of the fight

north rampart
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but you could have a 30 seconds avatar up when the boss hits 80%

sick sentinel
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i kinda wish we had like double or triple leggos, but not how you might think

north rampart
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its stupid but less bad i guess? i already have the ss leggo from playing fury so atleat i can have fun with it for an hour or two when 9.1.5 drops

sick sentinel
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like for 3 you'd get shit tier ones like jailermaw or torgy one or norg, and then at top you have cov/spec ones, and general ones in the middle

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you'd be able to have one of each, and then you just nerf accordingly

north rampart
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kinda cool idea

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there are some leggos i have never seen used which might be nice to see

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the exploding rats on for example

steel mist
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This week affix is punishing and the adds hit like a truck

teal swift
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What level?

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I found this weak smooth and easy

strong forum
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Losing reprisal

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For a bit more avatar uptime?

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Fuck no lol

teal swift
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Lol

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I'd rather just use the wall

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If I had to lose reprisal

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Plenty of extra rage

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It's shit like this, that makes it feel like blizzard doesn't play their own game

jagged pier
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i mean alpha prot warrior sort of showed us they dont play prot at least

strong forum
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And certain other classified information

jagged pier
teal swift
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I met one of their raid test teams once

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Heroic casuals lol

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I found it amusing. But the girl was super sweet

jagged pier
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thats why they do raid testing on PTR they know they arent as good as the top raiders

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the tests they usually do is going on invincible mode and test the mechanics are working correctly and do the x amount of damage etc etc

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but they dont need to worry about actually doing the fight

teal swift
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XD

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Honestly, I don't mind casually raiding I just want my trinkets

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And more importantly pushing m+ with friends

jagged pier
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if i didnt have to do m+ i wouldnt do it tbh

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outside of occasionally for fun

teal swift
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I need to get fun content in somewhere

jagged pier
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i would pretty much raid log

teal swift
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Oh I push keys for fun lol

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I try to get 10x per week per tank

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So ideally I push 60 15+ a week

jagged pier
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i dont i would be happy for CMs to come back

strong forum
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U ok

teal swift
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But rn Im just trying to get warrior done

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Cause vacation week

ionic plank
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60

teal swift
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I like keys

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I like tanking

ionic plank
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I like keys

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but I do 1 per character 4 on main

teal swift
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Lol

ionic plank
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and more on a character I'm particularly enjoying

strong forum
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You do more keys a week than I've done all of 9.0

teal swift
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I think my vaults full of like 17-18 keys rn

strong forum
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And twice as many keys as I've done in s2

teal swift
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Trying to push to 20s

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It's fun content for my friends and I

unique shale
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I stopped at 21 cause people were forcing me to do beer route

teal swift
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I just want portals

strong forum
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Beer route

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Pog

jagged pier
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beer route sounds cool

strong forum
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๐Ÿบ

ionic plank
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wtf beer route sounds fun

jagged pier
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i want beer

ionic plank
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๐Ÿป

teal swift
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Beer route, is this fucking mop?

ionic plank
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pub crawl round halls anyone?

strong forum
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OK now it feels almost like bullying

unique shale
teal swift
ionic plank
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tbf we're at kind of a standstill with key pushing since we got portals

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otherwise I'd be doing more

strong forum
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The portals are a funny thing, lots of people push to get em but never use em cuz they stop doing keys

unique shale
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Hey pull 5 packs every dung no small pull to get cds backs

jagged pier
teal swift
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I want then to have them

jagged pier
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KEKW

ionic plank
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if only they were account wide

teal swift
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I hardly use mop cm portals

teal swift
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Like holy fk

strong forum
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There's a handy tool called wormhole

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No need for 20s

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Same effect

teal swift
strong forum
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Better CD

ionic plank
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I use both

teal swift
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I mostly use wormhole to go back to oribos ah

strong forum
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That's called hearthstone

ionic plank
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hearth in bastion

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portal to oribos there

teal swift
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That's set to bastion

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I also use legion hearth

ionic plank
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also org tp cloak

teal swift
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To go to dal > org > oribos

ionic plank
unique shale
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Old school

teal swift
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I have forgotten to take the cloak off

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And it showed up in raid logs

ionic plank
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i always swap back as soon as loading screen finishes

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it's a habit luckily

teal swift
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I forget cause I'm pepega

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I can't even do the mist maze

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Cause I forget before I've seen all the symbols

sweet summit
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get the addon

teal swift
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Or tazavesh I have to call them all out onnvoice, becsuse I can't remember the 4 colourd

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While I put down the markers

unique shale
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Get weekaura

teal swift
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I swear I have brain damage

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Yeah I got auto solver

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I follow the bitch into first one

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And I make others do the other ones lol

ionic plank
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our rogue has that fucking

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doinb chinese maze hack weakaura

teal swift
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Its not even a hack

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It assigns each room a number

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There are finite combinations

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It can theoretically be done without the weak aura.

unique shale
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i swear to god every time i doig mists 21 -22 nobody doing the maze so i have to run around and make pull messy

ionic plank
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it's just a meme i know it's not a hack

distant crystal
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Yeah just like venthyr moonkin ramp can theoretically be done without the weak aura

teal swift
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Yeah, someone was like this might get you banned, and I'm like... It doesn't violate ToS.

distant crystal
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Just need to do mental calculus

sweet summit
teal swift
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Just memorize each room number and look at spreadsheet of possie soljtions lol

unique shale
teal swift
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How many solutions are there?

sweet summit
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i don't know

distant crystal
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hmm do warriors have any 40yd things to pull with

sweet summit
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vulpera racial

distant crystal
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throw is like 30 right

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apparently short races can pull through walls in mists

sweet summit
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30y ye

distant crystal
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gnome gang rise up!

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wait

teal swift
sweet summit
unique shale
distant crystal
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yeah the maze walls are apparently like bathroom stalls

teal swift
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I'm a vulpera I need to test this

sweet summit
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oh yeah ravager is 40 yards

teal swift
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Yuzu: knows the most worthless Information,

distant crystal
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ya know i just posted that gif without actually reviewing it

teal swift
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Doesn't know if I should reflect first or second reaper in top

distant crystal
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could've been a disaster

unique shale
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So basically it should be this order 0 1 1 0 1 0 1

teal swift
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I just wanna maximize my dps

brittle owl
strong forum
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I just reflect on CD tbh

teal swift
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It feels a little janky, so the options are reflect on CD, but do the first or second then on cd

unique shale
teal swift
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If I can get one extra reflect in a fight

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That's all I care about

brittle owl
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kill your dps

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tactically

teal swift
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I just wanna look good on total dps lol

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This 245 boomkin in dos

unique shale
teal swift
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Pulled 5700

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I pulled 5500

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I just am a complete slut for parses / damage meters

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But I pull like 6k usually oversll

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More if my dps are sick

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And more on weeks I can pull bigger. Stupid bolstering.

brittle owl
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if they kill shit faster than your cd windows, your overall will suffer

unique shale
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Min: 5.6 k
Max: 6.7 k

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For me

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I tried many combo but i could't go higher than 7k dps

teal swift
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Bigger pulls

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Lol

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Faster clear

dark lark
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If I play the lanterns in sanguine well I can finish at like 8k

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My favorite dungeon nowadays

teal swift
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I have 2* on both weeks on sanfuine

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It's my best dungeon

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Didn't even have lanterns

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It's just such a flexible timer, with tough mechs

unique shale
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Well i was more talking about lego talents and etc

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Otherwise i do 10k overall and more in nw with weapons

ionic fern
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Run Seismic.

ionic plank
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if you really wanna do damage you go seismic

ionic fern
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Profit

ionic plank
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yeah

jagged pier
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u run siesmic and u take the stand still torment power

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well done 9k dps

ionic plank
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saw Mwahi telling people to run seismic so I crafted it

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it kinda slaps

teal swift
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Send ss

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I havnt made it yet

unique shale
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Seismic and kyrain lego with crit stacks from torments are pretty close

jagged pier
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x

ionic plank
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logs are dps over an entire key right? is there anyway to show dps in combat like details?

unique shale
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I did more dps with kyrain lego then seismic

ionic plank
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a sample size of 1

jagged pier
jagged pier
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simple as

unique shale
ionic plank
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I've gone full offensive with seismic in a weekly key and you do see some crazy burst numbers

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with opc

unique shale
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I have to smash harder than

unique shale
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gimme more dps warriors should be meta again

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F bear tank

strong forum
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Just call it out when you can't reflect beforehand

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Or just use SW for it

jagged pier
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certain classified information would state other wise to us becoming meta again

teal swift
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I kinda wanna try seismic lol

strong forum
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"im gonna take dmg here"

unique shale
strong forum
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Eh

jagged pier
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just stand still press revenge comaplin when mwahi doesnt heal u

strong forum
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You can easily get 2-3 SW on that fight

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3 if its a tyr

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2 if its a normal key

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1 if its a blaster key

unique shale
strong forum
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Eh

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That's the wrong way to use it

unique shale
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I mean if its work its work me

teal swift
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Y'all treat your healer to well

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You need to slap them a bit, and pull them by the collar. Make sure they stay in line.

strong forum
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Ya, if it works it works

ionic plank
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actually my most common phrase in discord when tanking

unique shale
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Making healer mad = bad things

teal swift
unique shale
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Imagine a german healer

ionic plank
unique shale
ionic plank
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how's she gonna heal you if shes blindfolded man

teal swift
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๐Ÿค”

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It's a shaman, she finds a way

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Jokes aside, she's acfuslly extremely good

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No idea why she keeps me as her tank lol

unique shale
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Cause she is used to healing you cause as healer its easier to heal a tank you know than randoms

teal swift
#

She's a literal god. She could do better.

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I'm just a craptastic prot warrior, she could find some gozu bear

unique shale
#

What class btw

teal swift
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Shaman

unique shale
#

Shamans are best healer for me i love them all

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Worse one for me is pala or druid

teal swift
#

I just like my healer. I hope she doesn't leave me.

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I'ma have to keep her ona. Short lessh

unique shale
#

Depends on player too but i find those two classes troublesome

teal swift
#

Where am I gonna find a vulpera healer

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That doesn't abandon me

unique shale
teal swift
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Vulpera /lay animation

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Is perfect

mellow gorge
#

Ew

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Vulpera

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You mention vulpera healers abandoning you, but I haven't even found a dwarf woman D:

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How am I supposed to be healed mentally if its not a dwarf woman smh

unique shale
#

Where is my human pala healer

mellow gorge
#

There's like

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Dozens of them

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I see them everyday

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That pink tone haunts me

unique shale
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Mine is space goat

mellow gorge
#

Cut their horns off

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And they become goats

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Wait no

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They become humans

unique shale
#

Noticed

lilac bloom
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This is my log for mythic eye

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i'm getting hurt alot from the eye adds

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thats after the swap with 5 stacks

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i'm like using all defensives i have including trinkets

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they really hurt alot.. i tried to survive phase 1.. got to 40% then end up wiping :(

gaunt dawn
#

press ignore pain

lilac bloom
#

this one is the one got hur t the most

gaunt dawn
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no point using shield block on damage that isnt blockable

lilac bloom
#

ok

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so i wasn't spamming much ignore pain

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how about spell reflect

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does it work when that eye leave theh pool dot

gaunt dawn
dark lark
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You can spell reflect the piercing gaze from the adds, not the boss

gaunt dawn
#

its magic damage reduction

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most of your damage taken is scorn/ire

lilac bloom
#

ya

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that

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i was like dying

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couldn't keep up with my cds

gaunt dawn
#

demo shout

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lilac bloom
#

ok

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so in transition keep demo shout

gaunt dawn
#

its a 45s CD

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you could have used it multiple times

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both for rage and damage reduction

lilac bloom
#

damage reduction as in more ig pain

gaunt dawn
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and demo shout

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cos u kno

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it reduces damage

lilac bloom
#

ok..

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ill do that

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thx for tip.

gaunt dawn
#

do you have a third blood shard?

lilac bloom
#

well

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i do

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i was using 3 red shards

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but i end up using 2 and blue

gaunt dawn
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dont

lilac bloom
#

jas, the one absorbing

gaunt dawn
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use a bonus

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you're trolling if you dont

lilac bloom
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so ..3 reds?

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the ones that gave me bonus

gaunt dawn
#

yes

lilac bloom
#

yah i was using that then i find it that i'm getting hit hard by the adds

gaunt dawn
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doesnt matter

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you're not doing yourself any favours

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by lowering your net survival + DPS

lilac bloom
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yah.. ill go back and do the demo and all that

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hopefuly i wont die again

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but yah that time when others swap at 5 stacks.. i was taking big damage

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ill keep the dem shout and ig pain up

strong forum
#

Tell your healers that you'll be taking big dmg

gaunt dawn
strong forum
#

Coordinate it with others

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Don't be silent about it and surprise your healers with a sudden dmg intake

gaunt dawn
#

the only thing you can block on eye of the jailer is the spear from the add

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(the one you drag down)

lilac bloom
#

i see i never touch the add.. but only taunt if it comes down

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but good to know .. thx for hte talbe

thorny stone
gaunt dawn
lilac bloom
#

and alot died to stacks so we did the swap mechanic

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works out better only live up to 40% last week we got him down to 36%

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we kinda stuck.. we end up dying trying to stay alive in al that..

dark lark
#

We started out swapping but now we just stand our ground and blast it

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Very doable when raid is at ilvl 245+

lilac bloom
#

yah thats the problem we tried that and everyone got nuked after trying to through more then 10 stacks

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it was horrible

urban portal
#

Dying to death gaze is a healer mech unironically

lilac bloom
#

i dont think everyone was 245

urban portal
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You need to assign cds

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My guild did it at 239

lilac bloom
#

ya.. thats the rl i guess

urban portal
#

The eye hits really hard for 2nd boss

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It's pretty absurd

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But not to the tank

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As people said focus on mitigation

lilac bloom
#

i was like telling healers to heal me hard cos i couldn't keep up with my cds

dark lark
#

They still have to heal the rest of the raid with their stacks

lilac bloom
#

thats the problem how can they

urban portal
#

You need to mitigate better

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We told you

teal swift
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I don't like reprisal on the eye

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Consider using the wall

lilac bloom
#

ya.. ill do that next try

urban portal
#

I'm fairly sure eye has more raid damage than soulrender

lilac bloom
#

i guess ill have to

urban portal
#

And probably on par with pain

dark lark
#

Eye is 100% The Wall

urban portal
#

Or just go damage legendary

lilac bloom
#

ya i was using reprisal

teal swift
#

You can spell reflect the adds lens as well

teal swift
#

You'll have shield wall

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For each phase basicslly

lilac bloom
#

ya i got max leggo for that

urban portal
#

Not a sigma male mindset

lilac bloom
#

i've been using reprisal since heroic sod

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never realy changed it on mythic

gaunt dawn
#

if you're swapping sides you 5 heal

dark lark
#

Reprisal is great in most cases

teal swift
gaunt dawn
#

if you dont you 4 heal

teal swift
#

Parse on farm not prog.

dark lark
#

But Eye you lose value since there's nothing to block besides the angel

lilac bloom
#

ya we 4 healed it

dark lark
#

4 healing Eye is fine

teal swift
#

I trust panthea 100x more than you

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If panthea says to 5 heal, you should.

gaunt dawn
#

what if i trust dshoo ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

teal swift
#

Dunno

lilac bloom
#

so 5 heal for the fight

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then 4

teal swift
#

Not my problem lmao

gaunt dawn
#

if you're swapping on the nine, you're going to be taking more damage

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because of the dps stop in swapping

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the boss itself doesnt have a dps check

lilac bloom
#

we swap at 5

gaunt dawn
#

it does mean the tank will go up to 10-12 stacks and you're v likely to get an extra death gaze

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if you get the death gaze at like 9/10 stacks or so

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you NEED to personal it

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as a raid

dark lark
#

If I had to go back, I would've had my raid learn the 18/2 swap strategy

gaunt dawn
#

the 18/2 strat

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is the worst shit ever

dark lark
#

Think so?

gaunt dawn
#

yes

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high variance

lilac bloom
#

ill keep that in mind thx.. need sleep now

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catch u guys later

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thx for the tips

gaunt dawn
#

you dont want high variance on prog

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you want consistency

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if too many people crit during CDs on 1st add

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it dies before 2nd

dark lark
#

I feel like constantly readjusting the sides of each player based on their dps, which fluctuated every week due to gear, was such a pain in the ass

gaunt dawn
#

straight up

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its not based on gear tho

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its spec/player

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you should have a good feel for what your raid should be outputting as a RL

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and make comps on that

dark lark
#

I did, and it was a pain in the ass lol

gaunt dawn
#

we have our roster in 3 categories for that boss

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high burst, sustain, low

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high burst is venthyr moonkin, fire mage

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sustain is p much every non WW melee, arcane mage, hunter

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low is everything else

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so you then balance around that

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those kinda groupings u kno

dark lark
#

Makes sense

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If shit got weird I would just tell a certain player or two to go to the other side the next time

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Mid fight

gaunt dawn
#

having unbalanced sides means you hold dps

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which requires more healing

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no bueno

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use your log data to your advantage ๐Ÿ‘ผ

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whats the point in logging if you're not making use of the data

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u get me fam?

dark lark
#

I don't want to be reading Eye logs when I'm progging on Fatescribe

gaunt dawn
#

you use the same data for quite a few bosses

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fate/kt/sylv

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fate for intermission damage who to assign for what

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KT for who goes in/out who CDs where

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Sylv for who CDs each point in p2

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and each arrow set in p1

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you can largely copy templates from higher up guilds tho

dark lark
#

Yeah that makes sense

mellow gorge
#

Eyo

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Whats your vers at bois?

mighty valley
#

don't remember, like 8% or something?

sweet summit
#

524 aka 13%

strong forum
#

Like 3%

jagged pier
#

10% i think

blazing condor
#

12 iirc

sick sentinel
chilly brook
sick sentinel
#

I might like to try to get that TV trinket reflects damage run that +blade kit in some key for science

blazing condor
sick sentinel
#

is what is, had option of getting the soulstone once lfr (blue upgradeable, red = dead valor version)

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looks like bad alterinative to phial possibly if you are desperate

WoWScrnShot_102121_131609.jpg
digital arch
#

so, can be this a good for tank now?
Sinful Surge (Venthyr Runecarving Power) now extends the duration of Avatar (Talent) by 2.5 seconds when Condemn (Venthyr Ability) is cast (was Last Stand duration extended by 3 seconds)

jagged pier
#

nope still bad

strong forum
#

still bad

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avatar offers no defensive value, and the offensive value is too low

distant crystal
#

RIP BoM

lime urchin
distant crystal
#

effective health

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vs physical and magical dmg

strong forum
#

^

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its only relevant for raiding

lime urchin
#

Oh

distant crystal
#

"will i die to this next tankbuster?"

strong forum
#

or if you know exaclty how much an ability will do on high m+

sick sentinel
#

is that true? wasn't really aware

distant crystal
strong forum
#

if you dont know how much an ability will hit you for

sick sentinel
#

i saw someone else use it so i figured why not

strong forum
#

its a useless weakaura

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its to determine if you will live X mechanic

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with your current health

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thats it

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for example on sludgefist when he runs into a pillar you know itll deal X amount of damage

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what i did as raidlead was basically say "you need to be above 70% to live, clothies at 80%"

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with this weakaura you could turn that into actual values based on how much dmg youre taking and check for yourself if you have enough ehp

distant crystal
#

moonkins at 40%

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๐Ÿ˜

strong forum
#

too specific

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but probably

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cuz they have like 1.5k armor

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and mages have 200

distant crystal
#

yeah had a good bit more armor than any plate dps last time i checked

strong forum
#

cuz they have a 200% armor modifier in moonkin form

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iirc

urban portal
#

damn

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that sounds funny

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plate btw

sick sentinel
#

Impending Victory (Talent) cooldown reduced to 25 seconds (was 30 seconds) and now heals for 40% of your max health (was 30%).

#

still not worth picking

urban portal
#

not worth

#

but could see some sort of play

#

there could be some raid mechanic where you dont need the throughput from indom

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but then indom gives more max hp

jagged pier
distant crystal
#

huge for dps warrs tho, i think?

urban portal
#

it competes with storm bolt and double time

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double time is a dps up

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and storm bold is util

sick sentinel
#

what if it gave rage

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instead of cost

lyric relic
#

so like... charge? :p

sick sentinel
#

if talented and it procs, you can use it to gain rage instead of costing.

distant crystal
#

oh so you still only get to use it when you got a killing blow?

#

think it would stay dead

sick sentinel
#

not so tough with execute and summoned adds

jagged pier
#

if talents it has a 30 sec cd

lyric relic
#

ye you always can use it but it resets on killing blow

sick sentinel
#

i could see some venthyr leech exrcute build maybe running it

lyric relic
#

you self heal more with indom

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youโ€™d probably only take it as a meme damage gain

sick sentinel
#

there is a conduit that makes it heal over X seconds (8 i think) could be part of puzzle, i agree it seems like a stupid idea overall though

lyric relic
#

but even then, if you were actually tanking something, the self healing you lose from Indom, the rage cost of impending victory... may not even be a damage gain in the end

strong forum
#

The conduit is only like 100 hps

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Not worth it

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It heals based on the amount of damage victory rush / impending victory did

lyric relic
#

I think the only talent I genuinely experimented with and found relatively useful (albeit niche) was dragons roar

sick sentinel
#

probably a weird crit vers thing, you get IV to always crit so it ticks for more, and then you pray for those to be crits as well, and then versa for buff heal

lyric relic
#

and that was exclusively for pre-nerf KT and using Korayn

distant crystal
#

umm

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spam?

karmic plinth
#

definitely

distant crystal
#

<@&257983573498265600>

raven ore
#

๐Ÿ•ต๏ธ

mellow gorge
#

oh lord, why does everyone have so little verse D:

#

i thought i needed to get 20 atleast...

#

currently at 16

jagged pier
#

because its doesnt matter how much vers u have

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at all

mellow gorge
#

probably doesn't

jagged pier
#

not its not probably

#

it just doesnt matter

mellow gorge
#

did they change it?

jagged pier
#

no

mellow gorge
#

last season i thought it mattered

jagged pier
#

no

mellow gorge
#

hm

jagged pier
#

didnt matter then ither

#

vers has literally never mattered

strong forum
#

You can't get meaningful amounts of vers to hardcore prioritise it

#

Literally impossible

mellow gorge
#

fair enough

strong forum
#

It's a dumbass braintumor inserted into people from bfa s4

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Where you could get up to 110% vers with procs

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Aka, relevant amounts

jagged pier
#

with u also didnt need

mellow gorge
#

110%

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is quite alot

distant crystal
#

the true chads were still wearing crit/haste in bfa s4

strong forum
#

Not before 25s after that point hard stacking vers actually was good

#

I did 23s with 2% vers

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And was fine

sick sentinel
#

all i remember about season 4 was "pray for TD"

strong forum
#

In WCM I ran a mix set of haste vers and even then I only had like 30%

sick sentinel
#

if you TD'd and it connected, would literal delete trash packs 2 pulls away

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shit was nuts

strong forum
#

Ya I have a few keys up on Youtube, was good fun

mellow gorge
#

btw, do you guys cast ravager manually, or set it on a macro to cast on self when clicked?

strong forum
#

I use @cursor

mellow gorge
#

that's actually quite good

#

i'll need to look up the macro for that

#

self cast is cool and all until you want to move it slightly

strong forum
#

Self cast is literally bad

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/cast [@cursor] ravager

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You're welcome

mellow gorge
#

ah thonk

frank hemlock
#

mouseover > selfcast by lightyears

strong forum
#

Especially since you use ravager before you charge

frank hemlock
#

i'd argue using regular cast is better than self cast

#

lmao

strong forum
#

Yes

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Self cast has only downsides

#

Because you effectively waste 50% of ravagers range

#

Cuz you're never ontop of mobs

#

You're infront of mobs

frank hemlock
#

yup

strong forum
#

So if you cast it on yourself, you only use 180ยฐ of a 360ยฐ attack

mellow gorge
#

thoguh doesn't the ability adjust itself to hit all nearby enemies?

#

or slightly floats towards them

strong forum
#

No

#

It only moves with the goal to hit a target

#

If ravager hits 1 target, it won't move

mellow gorge
#

oh

#

fair enough

#

thank

acoustic fjord
#

Prot generate rage by auto attacks?

mellow gorge
#

yes

#

barely any though

acoustic fjord
#

Thank you

strong forum
#

3

#

Wait no 2 rage

#

Per Auto attack

mellow gorge
#

yea 2

strong forum
#

You get 3 rage per second from getting hit

#

if you get hit often enough

tropic gorge
#

to quote a great man: "Stop trying to hit me and hit me!"

strong forum
#

๐Ÿ™

acoustic fjord
#

I guess blocking is a thing

jagged pier
#

blocking doesnt stop that

#

and it depends on pull mob boss what ever u want

#

take guardian he melees like once a mintue

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u dont get much rage from him

strong forum
#

So if you say, fight a boss

#

It's not 3 rage per second, but 3 rage per swing

#

If you slow atk speed of bosses with curse of exhaustion, their swing timer drops to 2.1sec

#

Add in the mechanics a boss does, and you get hit alot less

#

So the 3 rage per second assumes you get hit often enough to actually get hit atleast once a second.

Or to phrase it easier, you get 3 rage from getting hit, with a 1 second cooldown

acoustic fjord
#

Dang thats not a lot

strong forum
#

Yup

acoustic fjord
#

Do we as prot warriors want that buffed?

strong forum
#

Back in legion, aka the good days, you got rage based on actual dmg taken

acoustic fjord
strong forum
#

So the more dmg you took, the more rage you got

#

Same for vdhs BTW

#

They got pain from dmg taken back then

#

Then with bfa most resource gain moved to abilities and they basically removed the "dmg taken" part

acoustic fjord
#

That's kinda lame

strong forum
#

Indeed

#

They also turned most mitigation from % dmg reduction to armor

#

Which is why tanks are so much weaker against magic

#

Compared to then

#

And being weaker tanks in general

acoustic fjord
#

So for prot, how does rage generation work on a trash pull?

strong forum
#

Same as it does in ST

acoustic fjord
#

Auto attack goes brrr and don't worry about rage generation?

#

I see

strong forum
#

Most rage comes from shield slam

#

Then reprisal

#

Then dmg taken

#

Then Auto attack

#

Then avatar / booming voice

#

Oh yeah and TC

acoustic fjord
#

TC?

strong forum
#

Thunderclap

acoustic fjord
#

Oh right

#

Is reprisal the go to leggo?

strong forum
#

Yes

acoustic fjord
#

Dang. All I have is the double leap rn.

strong forum
#

That's a weird choice

acoustic fjord
#

For pvp

strong forum
#

Even weirder

#

Flag carry or what

acoustic fjord
#

Good for carrying flags

#

Yeah

#

I didn't feel like tanking dungeons and stuff with the warrior until the other day. To my understanding, pvp and pve are completely different in how to play.

#

Maybe not completely

strong forum
#

Entirely different

#

They're entirely different in how to play, but have overlapping areas of skillsets

#

Whereas pvp mostly is mechanical play pve is mostly about execution of rotation coupled with occasional mechanics on timers

sick sentinel
#

pvp players make better use of CC in m+

#

i've seen it many many times

strong forum
#

Pvp players make better use of their class period

#

A pvp player only needs to learn how to deal damage

#

A raider needs to learn full use of all their buttons and utility + mechanical play

sick sentinel
#

sometimes all you need for m+ is gogogo

strong forum
#

In average keys, yes

#

Especially as a dps

#

The most carefree role in all of wow

modern brook
#

Gotta keep hamstring up on eye or it'll leave its tub T.T

timber junco
#

I miss disrupting shout

sick sentinel
uneven river
#

anyone got any advise for fate during prog on mythic shit slaps