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bright flax
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Want to get rid of elvui

strong forum
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What's wrong with elvui

north rampart
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so how much rage should i be spamming revenge and how much for IP?

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is it just leave it to the healer and max dps unless things are going bad, or does assigning more rage to IP allow for bigger pulls and faster keys?

ivory coral
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if you're scared press IP if not press revenge

north rampart
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kinda what i do but was feeling bad for maybe not helping the healer

ivory coral
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you kind of have to feel it out for yourself I think, I press ip a lot and it's usually my biggest "healing" done after a key

north rampart
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double IP to not cap when ravager + spear is pumping out the rage?

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thats probably like half my ip usages in key lol

ivory coral
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I usually dont ravager and spear at the same time for that reason

ionic fern
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πŸ‘€

ivory coral
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maybe im an idiot but I usually spear after ravager, this week I usually hold it for dropping stacks

ionic fern
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Aww.
I mean..it's not technically wrong but you shouldn't need to keep spear for just dropping necrotic.

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You can pretty safely use it on CD as any other week.

craggy pilot
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oh its necrotic week? πŸ˜„

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im so happy my sub is out peepostudy

ionic fern
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Treat Ignore Pain more or less as a rage dump - currently with our rage income you will be pressing it regardless.

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And also buffer IP before a big boss hit.

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That's about it.

tropic gorge
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I use my spear to get away for nectoric. But only if stoneform and the pot are on cd

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The spear is so good. I'm gonna miss it the most after this xpack

strong forum
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Trust in spear becoming baseline

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:pogO:

tropic gorge
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I wouldn't exactly be against that lol

ivory coral
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can't decide if i like spear or aa more, probably spear though

tropic gorge
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Avatar and spear is soooo much threat. I love it

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I like using the combo on big pulls for a good time

north rampart
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when double pulling is charge spear one pack, charge ravager the other good?

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or just lump everyone together and let it all fly?

ivory coral
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gather them up first

tropic gorge
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I don't use ravager atm, gonna try it out this weekend. But wouldn't both together rage cap you hard?

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Doesn't ravager also generate rage

ivory coral
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it does

blazing condor
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Its fine to use ravager to engage another pack since it follows that pack back to you

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not really necessary

ivory coral
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it wont be hitting them efficiently and you will lose a lot of value on your ravager though

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in my experience at least

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i'd rather tag the far away pack and drop the ravager slightly ahead of them as they get close

sick sentinel
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If someone venths a gargoyle in hoa and then releases it (not sure how it works) it does or not count for % leaning towards yes

ivory coral
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didnt even know what was possible

blazing condor
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so dont count in the bats in your routes

tropic gorge
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Home owners association up in revendreth are real jerks

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Super picky about their grass for some reason

sick sentinel
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Home owner association is horrendous

brittle owl
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doesn't help their initials are also the initials of heart of azeroth

sick sentinel
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unlocked leaper, trying to go for exploiter

feral bane
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@brittle owl

brittle owl
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would you look at that

urban portal
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Does exploiter work for prot?

feral bane
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oh hey @raven ore

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didnt actually know you were here

sick sentinel
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no, like so i can craft it for arms raiding

strong forum
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Ofc he's here

feral bane
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how would i know

strong forum
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Idk

sick sentinel
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i can always try to run LFR i guess, since we'd just massively outgear it and no real point to go

strong forum
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You on a hunt to get all legendaries?

ionic plank
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isn't exploiter pretty bad?

sick sentinel
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sure why not, need alot more torgy runs tho

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if i can get all the tower powr crap i'll hav no problem run it all the time

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i thought exploiter was go to arms raid

bright flax
ionic plank
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nah they all use enduring blow

sick sentinel
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oh

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i have that one

strong forum
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Ensuring blow is why arms is even on the dps meters

ionic plank
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pretty bonkers

sick sentinel
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do EB on waist incase i get helm w dom socket?

ionic plank
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yes

sick sentinel
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need 1k ash and i can make 235 eb

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what missives

strong forum
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Crit haste

bright flax
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Thought haste was the less desirable stat for arms

sick sentinel
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i thought it was crit + versa or mastery

ionic plank
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I think haste is good for raiding

sick sentinel
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well, i gotta try to push 3 more keys, 2 torghasts and then i don't care

bright flax
sick sentinel
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dunno if i should hang on to those for the domination socket or

strong forum
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If that's your 5th domsocket, no

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Otherwise yes

cedar spear
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Why don't you buy better ones from Korthia?

modern brook
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Lmao doing things in korthia

strong forum
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Lmao doing things

jagged pier
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☝️

sweet summit
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what do if not do things

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πŸ€”

ionic plank
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no thing

sweet summit
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no

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must do thing

ionic plank
strong forum
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Hi I'm thing

sweet summit
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must do you

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😳

strong forum
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😳

distant crystal
lofty widget
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does anyone know if aegis is affected by necrotic? i mean, is the amount of dmg aegis prevents lowered by higher necrotic stacks

chilly brook
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Idk but it also doesnt have a cap

strong forum
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It's not affected

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Necrotic isn't an absorb, it's a damage reduction

tropic gorge
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You guys crack me Tf up. Every time I open this channel and scroll up

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Best. Class. Discord. Ever.

lofty widget
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cheers, jsut had me confused since it does show up on healing meters

modern brook
sweet summit
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share or

jagged pier
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☝️

wild hemlock
tropic gorge
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Lmao

broken stratus
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Is the LFR the only way to get the wall now?

strong forum
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the most likely, yes

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but why would you want the wall?

jagged pier
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for mythic slyv?

sturdy sable
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Is the wall even that impactful for m sylv?

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Or is it just a case of its the best pick since block is devalued on that fight

sweet summit
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the wall is really nice for p3

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i'll try reprisal next week

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to compare

winged coral
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Yo guys - jusr swapped to prot as wanted something different. Ran & timed a few 15’s today but would love some more insight into defensive rotation. Im unsure whether i shoukd be spamming IP or trying to keep as much uptime on shield block? (Running reprisal) - i feel like i get absolutely chunked and constantly kiting

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I know necrotic week is pretty janky so running Kliea

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My versa is only 12% too so working on getting that up

sweet summit
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keep shield block up
don't get hit in the back
use shield wall to fill shield block downtime/for big hits/unblockable hits etc
necrotic is not really a big deal for us since we mitigate most of the damage anyway
your vers is not the problem

winged coral
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Okay when should i be using IP?

sweet summit
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ignore pain is mostly used as an off gcd rage spender or for dots/magic hits etc

winged coral
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Okay

sweet summit
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but if you really feel like you're taking too much damage, ignore pain isn't going to help a lot. it's rather weak
but it still helps more than not using it i guess

winged coral
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I was usinf shield wall as last ditch survival due to it beint a 3.4m CD

sweet summit
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but using it you also give up on damage (revenge)

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shield wall is like a 2 minute cooldown - less even

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assuming you play AM of course

safe thistle
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sigh when officer are healer and you try to tell them after 100+ wipe on remnant that ppl die off little by little due to lack of healing, check logs and they are 10-15k hps less that comparable guilds kill but wont listen and ask you to just wear more versatility.........

winged coral
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oh is it worth AM in m+?

strong forum
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?!

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its the main talent you run

sweet summit
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always AM peepostudy

strong forum
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in m+

sweet summit
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well, not always

winged coral
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Oh i was running bolster!

lofty widget
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you dont run HR until very high keys generally

sweet summit
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but yeah

strong forum
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Bolster is 9.0.0

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ever since 9.0.5 you run AM+Reprisal

winged coral
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Ah

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All the guides on YT are 4/5 months old

safe thistle
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i have over 80%+ shiled block uptime and got asked to run bolster on remnant mythic.....

strong forum
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tell em to stfu

sweet summit
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your RL or whatever is dumb

safe thistle
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not my fault healers lacks

strong forum
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Bolster wont help there

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lol

safe thistle
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i already have nearly 100% uptime cause of switch

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asnd tons of charge

strong forum
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exactly

sweet summit
winged coral
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@sweet summit am i only using revenge on proc still?

sweet summit
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no

strong forum
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thats outdated since pre-patch

sweet summit
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revenge is your main damaging ability

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so you use it when you want to do damage

winged coral
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Damn alk the fuides are so dated

strong forum
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also mainly done by bad people

mellow bridge
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wowhead should be up to date

winged coral
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All the guides*

sweet summit
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wowhead and icy veins are both up to date

winged coral
strong forum
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Icyveins and Wowhead should be reasonably up to date

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but video guides are just wrong

mellow bridge
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video guides are just a hassle to update

strong forum
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check out Marcelian they just released their 9.1 guide

mellow bridge
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so naturally they will be outdated really fast

safe thistle
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never miss a shield slam window ! πŸ˜›

strong forum
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then you should be good to go?

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Marcelian actually bothers to verify their stuff

sweet summit
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ya they own

winged coral
safe thistle
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Marcelian wasnt right on some of the dh stuff so i wonder how they did on warrior

strong forum
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havent checked that

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i also recommend checking out the "state of warrior" podcast

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its a good listen and watch :^)

jagged pier
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u mean nome talks about warrior for 1:30 hours

bright flax
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Cant forget some basics, guides are not rules. Proper play is more relevant for success

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Omg wtf

mellow bridge
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Tried watching it but this nome guy was too boring 😩

sweet summit
strong forum
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too distractingly handsome

mellow bridge
jagged pier
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tbf if i was there it would be nome and jakey talk about warrior for 4 hours

strong forum
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facts

mighty cairn
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lots forget or have to b reminded

safe thistle
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kk

bright flax
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Some dont even know it helps at all

strong forum
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try to allocate healing CDs better

bright flax
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Same with rogue poison sadly

strong forum
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thats what usually does the trick

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often healers are just winging their CDs

mighty cairn
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ya if ur raid lead or healing officer doesn’t have a cd plan

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fight is doomed

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not much tank can do

bright flax
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Are you lusting on pull?

safe thistle
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no lust on pull

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they want it at third shatter

bright flax
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Our rl wanted to force lust on pull until healers complained hard

mighty cairn
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that is a huge red flag lmao

sweet summit
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that's what we did on prog

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but that's uhhh

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a while ago

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lust on 3rd shatter i mean

bright flax
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To us, the hardest part was to make sure everyone in the mass dispel knew what to do

safe thistle
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ya we still get death there too sometime

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but from log they mostly die off aura of spite

bright flax
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That and moving to the chest piece in p3. With lust and current gear we rekilled it this week with only 1 chest soak

sweet summit
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wtf is aura of spite

bright flax
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Orbs or silence

mighty cairn
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is that the dot from the balls

bright flax
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Not sure

safe thistle
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the thicking dmg from remnant i think ?

sweet summit
strong forum
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T H I C C

mighty cairn
bright flax
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If orbs, make sure you have people assigned to bring them out to the next dispel zone

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And be fast with it

safe thistle
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i get first orb because of tank swap there anyway and leap throw it right away

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second is a dh so its done quick too

sweet summit
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orbs have less hp on mythic than on heroic
they should definitely not be an issue peepostudy

safe thistle
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third another war

sweet summit
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do you have any raid cooldown assignment?

safe thistle
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ya we do

strong forum
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the assignment is

bright flax
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More like they get abandoned and keep ticking dmg.
Make sure if youre doing mass dispel to have a wa to help, sometimes you just have to ping pong

strong forum
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"we use healing CDs here and there"

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🧒

safe thistle
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im at 78% block uptime but yah when we call wipe it might make it fall ?

sweet summit
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you can do like

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"ignore events after x deaths"

bright flax
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Id suggest bringing a log to wipefest too. But dont use it to fingerpoint

sweet summit
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you're hard vibing

strong forum
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on your last wipe you didnt even hero?

bright flax
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The only way you can mess up tanking that is failing orbs, get thrown out or mess up suffering. dont think youd be here if those were the cases tho

strong forum
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did you ever hero at all?

safe thistle
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we had some wipe cause of new co-tank that failed some orbs true

strong forum
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when does 3rd shatter happen?

safe thistle
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we did not i think cause we wipe before third shatter

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at 30%

strong forum
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you didnt make it to 3rd shatter ever

safe thistle
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we always die around the same time

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i said ppl just die off, lack of healing

strong forum
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then you need to change the healing CDs

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lowkey

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if you know youre struggling at point X

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you can plan more CDs for that moment

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see where youre overusing CDs earlier

sweet summit
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DM me your healing assignment thing

safe thistle
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when we start getting 3 orbs ppl start dying

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k

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logging

strong forum
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youre only using Barrier once

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spirit shell only once

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your disc priest could use alot more CDs

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same as you could use ALOT more manatides

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1 manatide among 2 rshamans in 4 minutes?

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1 spirit shell ?

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1 Barrier?

jagged pier
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what we talking remenant?

strong forum
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ye

jagged pier
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yer healer cds for shatter 2 and 3

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and some for dispells

strong forum
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this looks wrong idk

safe thistle
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i sent in dm to erga the assigment if you guys want i can too

strong forum
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sitting on barrier for over 3minutes

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makes no sense

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aswell as only 2 rallying cries

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when you have 2 warriors

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you can literally rally every minute

safe thistle
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we have some night with 3 warriors

strong forum
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i feel like youre using too many CDs on the 1min mark

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AM + Spirit Shell + Rally + Boon + AMZ

bright flax
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Dhs, dks and warrs, can rotate their cds for dispels

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Add some healing stuff

safe thistle
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sometime i press shieldwall and last stand together cause of big finger 😦

strong forum
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wtf is this

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that shaman

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is 90% mana

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but not healing for SHIT

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only riptide

safe thistle
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brb in 10 minutes need to get girl at school ill read it all thnx a lot for your time too guys !! im not good with logs checking

urban portal
bright flax
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We also had some issues with dispels close to shatters, where u get sent off into a swirlie. But other than what has been said it was a matter of repeating

strong forum
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in that window

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that shaman is literally AFK

mighty cairn
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those healers vibing a little too hard

strong forum
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LITERALLY

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NOTHING

urban portal
mighty cairn
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maybe he’s running orbs copium

bright flax
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Mind you, my guild is ranked 3k
It also sucked that the 1st time we got the boss to 10% then everybody decided to pot and screwed up timings on next attempt

strong forum
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for over 30seconds running orbs

mighty cairn
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reviewing m remnant logs is my favorite pastime

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u see some funny stuff

strong forum
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bro hes almost getting outhealed by a boomkin

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when theyre wiping

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hardcarried by the holy and other shaman

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lemme guess

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Fio is the officer

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most of his healing when the raid is wiping, is literally only on himself

bright flax
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Those healing bars are sad :(

urban portal
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fio is the GF of the officer

strong forum
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rest is just riptide and cloudburst(popping) ticking

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also it seems

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that youre dying to not swapping often enough

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@safe thistle you literally got 1shot cuz you didnt taunt swap for suffering

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on your best pull

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you also have people dying to grasp of malice dandy

modern brook
sweet summit
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my dms are open πŸ˜‰

safe thistle
strong forum
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F

safe thistle
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i though it could had been a kill there

strong forum
safe thistle
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yah the grasp of mailce stuff is pretty dumb i think its really not hard to move out...

modern brook
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I only half payed attention to your log review flynn

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save yourself the headache and finda new guild

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you aint gotta end on bad terms or aynthing but you're obviously at a level of dedication above your team and thats just a great way to not like people or the game

safe thistle
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well i dont really mind not been cutting edge but at this point i though we would at least be on painsmith πŸ˜›

modern brook
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I mean if you dont mind the progression of "getting your healers to be at the keyboard" thats on you

strong forum
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DW, you'll have atleast 3 more months until CE is over

modern brook
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Like im not here to tell you how to enjoy your time

strong forum
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atleast

modern brook
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But if you have any interest in killing the boss and making progress in the tier, whether ce is the goal or not

strong forum
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This'll be the easiest CE in history, next to Nzoth

modern brook
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you a) need your team to address the issues they're having or b) find a new team

light thicket
modern brook
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cause on the whole you're doin fine

safe thistle
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so im not that bad ?

modern brook
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at the very least, you're not the reason you're o pull 24 for the night 🀷

safe thistle
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all i know is when i do orbs they all explose and i always carry 1 right away on edge

modern brook
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Theres definitely room for improvement

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But these wipes arent really you

safe thistle
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i even rerolled from DH cause we had no warrior and then ended up in sanctum recruiting 2 sadga

modern brook
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You rerolled from dh

safe thistle
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haha true i relog him soemtime and hes so boring

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i love the mobility though

modern brook
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πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ warrior aint lackin in mobility

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but yeah

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dh on another level

safe thistle
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i use leaper on tarragrue

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only fight its fun

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i think i need to watch out for my revenge i dont think i manage too well my rage

mighty cairn
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leaped on painsmith p legit

safe thistle
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dont know how to check that

modern brook
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one of the bigger issues i saw was just low CPM in general

mighty cairn
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leaper

safe thistle
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ok

safe thistle
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is it cause i do orbs and sometime stacking for malevolence take time ?

modern brook
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probably

safe thistle
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im the first tank

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i take all orbs (normally) sometime it get pushed to second tank cause of shatter

modern brook
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yeah that'll do it

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also explians the bunch fo throw weapons πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

safe thistle
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ya i taunt there but get pushed away dont wanna charge in the shatter

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i got ask to replace my haste enchant with versa and gems

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asked*

modern brook
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lmao for what

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will your verse enchants magically make your healers find 20 apm?

safe thistle
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they said i was hard to heal

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thats why i thouhg maybe i was bad or wehat

modern brook
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thats a little ove 2 verse

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so about 1% DR

safe thistle
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i dont have a lot of base vers gear though he said i had too much crit :/

modern brook
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idt thats the difference for you being hard to heal or not πŸ€”

safe thistle
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did what they asked πŸ˜›

modern brook
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you're kitted as hell tbh

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low cape

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which like lmao thats how far i have to go to find something

safe thistle
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only thing i guess is my shoulder arent dom piece

modern brook
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this should be used more

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thats taken froma 4 minute fight

safe thistle
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oh yah i just made a weak aura cause im so not used to quick CD

modern brook
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this is wrong

safe thistle
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i know i forget it a lot i try to fix that atm

modern brook
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and as a result 80% blocked hits is low

safe thistle
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k

modern brook
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you should be at 80% with Reprisal and AM

safe thistle
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i do my charge/intervene stuff

modern brook
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taking HR should be ~near 100, bolster idk you shouldnt be using it

safe thistle
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i dont wanna use it i got asked to take it :/

modern brook
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ITs doing literally nothing for you

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again from the same fight

safe thistle
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would you use last stand on pull to help aggro too ?

modern brook
safe thistle
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well i have the conduit for extra rage

modern brook
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sure but you're in the opener

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and have spear, bv, reprisal charge etc

safe thistle
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true

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i overflow at pull

modern brook
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yeah

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your opening should be like

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Charge block slam bv ip spear revenge

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block probably can be delayed

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point is you're overflowing on rage

safe thistle
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would you aegis on pull or on second swap

modern brook
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NGL i dont know the timings for this fight too well thats probably a question for @strong forum

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If your healers want you to make more defensive oriented macro decisions, and you're willing to listen to them for some reason, take Heavy reprucussions instead

mighty valley
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overflowing on rage? but the pull is time for Condemn

safe thistle
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i though about using it during orb uptime

mighty valley
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(crowd boos)

safe thistle
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k

modern brook
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tbh you really should just be on the AM train

safe thistle
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thats what i was using before

modern brook
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more SW, more avatar

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more avatar = more damage, also more rage = more defensive value

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also the AM feedback loop remains the most interesting part of this spec

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and not playing it is ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

safe thistle
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heres the best one we had

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while i ran AM

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i thiink

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lol

modern brook
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i was looking at wipe 23

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ill check this one

safe thistle
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thats on another days

modern brook
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ahh

safe thistle
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before i got asked all the stuff

jagged pier
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still on remanent?

safe thistle
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ya

jagged pier
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just for context in terms of blocked hits

safe thistle
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i think were at 170 wipes which is crazy

jagged pier
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my best is 91% with AM

safe thistle
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yah i work on that a lot sometime i know i sucks and end up at 60% cause of poor rage management thats something im working on no spamming revenge too much πŸ˜›

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anbd cant refresh shield block lack of rage

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and caller sometime make us stack where helmet is :/

modern brook
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Iunno yall are further than me so i cant really say shit

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but i look at these logs

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and i see a B+ tank being told by D- healers hes doing things wrong

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like

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yeah your hits blocked are a little low

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but its not whats wiping you

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half these deaths are to ticking damage

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Yeah, you could stand to be more proactive about your cd management

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but half these deaths are to people getting knocked off the edge still

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or your cotank not taunt swapping

safe thistle
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yah thnx for lack of player we took a guys that was 7/10 heroic

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lol

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and brought him to tank mythic right away

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normally we do half, 2/3 of a raid in ymthic by patch but this one is the worse i saw πŸ˜›

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ill just focus on myself then to improve even more my play and ... yah well cant carry other

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and i ll stick to AM

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fuck bolster

sweet summit
jagged pier
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best i found was to intervene the other tank just after taunting and u can charge to orbs to keep block up

safe thistle
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when you realize someone nearly made you think you were bad, when i was just half-bad πŸ˜›

modern brook
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like here

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this is from your self describbed best pull

safe thistle
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yah normally i open swap with a harge

modern brook
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every peak higher than the first one

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is osmeone besides the tank getting hit by suffering.

safe thistle
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i call on discord a lot to watch for helmet

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:/

jagged pier
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the helm doesnt hurt tho

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and its beam is omega wide

safe thistle
#

we make weird strat sometime πŸ˜› we used a 4 tank strat on hungering πŸ˜›

sweet summit
#

what

#

WHAT

#

WHAT

#

what

jagged pier
#

what

#

what

#

what

#

what

#

what

#

what

#

what

#

what

safe thistle
#

ppl copuldnt made the stacking and healing

#

so we had them stack on tank

jagged pier
#

oh wait yer i did hear about that strat

modern brook
#

m hungering killed my guild on a reclear T-T

safe thistle
#

cause the group is too bad at managing the debuff

modern brook
#

we literlaly downed it the weak before it was nerfed

#

then 2 weeks later

#

spent 4 hours on it

#

and the guild quit

safe thistle
#

we had some rough night on him i dunno why but monk get smashed hard as tank on him

sturdy sable
safe thistle
#

i think i could find a logs off it haha

#

4 tanks strat

#

using 2 main tank the 2 others are soaker

peak forge
#

Can you intervene attacks by spiteful shades?

sweet summit
#

yuh

peak forge
#

Nice

patent osprey
#

yup but they hit hardddd

#

so don't die from it XD

stable valve
#

gonna craft Seismic Reverberation for meme keys. Do we still use booming voice or swap to best served cold?

#

kyrian btw

patent osprey
#

Best served cold with seismic @stable valve

stable valve
#

did you go crit haste? @patent osprey

sick sentinel
#

when you invoke triple tank strats on raid boss:

mellow bridge
#

4 tank strat

#

wtf

#

ive never heard of that

#

sounds like naxx lmfao

patent osprey
#

better to parry then lessen the dam like with mast

stable valve
#

thank you! hopefully I can start doing the funny when guildies ask me to tank their 15s

patent osprey
#

yeah :) destroy the under performers haha

next copper
#

My guild at the time used four tanks for Hungering. Ez reclear.

teal swift
#

Send cursor macro for spear

#

plz

sweet summit
#
/cast [@cursor] Spear of Bastion```
teal swift
#

ty am mid raid, ily bb

sweet summit
teal swift
#

Slight imrpovement.

#

I found myself without rage

#

sometimes, and couldnt cast anything, idk what to do @jagged pier

sweet summit
#

jakey is asleep bedge

#

but that happens every now and then

#

what boss is this

teal swift
#

uh the nine

#

I also realized

#

i fucked up using reprisal

#

and barely charged / IV

sweet summit
#

still a bit low bedge

teal swift
#

im doing my best

sweet summit
#

i'm proud of you

teal swift
#

im really new to warrior, (no im not its been like 4 weeks)

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god im trash

sweet summit
#

wait how long as that kill

#

your total casts are almost the same as mine

#

found you detective

teal swift
#

ily

sweet summit
#

you're overcapping rage
which means lost revenge/ignore pain/shield block casts

#

fixing that will help a lot with the downtime you have

#

also abusing reprisal is a lot of free revenges and rage πŸ“ˆ

teal swift
#

Ty bb

#

Wtb 9.1.5 so I can just use nightfae for raid

#

And use that leggo xD

sweet summit
#

nf owns

primal rain
#

Is Conqueror's Banner better than PI

dim token
#

is there anything else that ignores necrotic like bear thrash shield?

stable valve
#

Kyr brewmaster monks are strong at ignoring necrotic

modern brook
#

Shield block

#

All of our cooldowns

sullen tangle
#

what are the ideal trinkets to use as a prot warrior?>

jagged pier
#

for what and when?

teal swift
#

aaaaaaaaaa

#

This key was hell, but I learned new pulls

jagged pier
median tulip
# sullen tangle what are the ideal trinkets to use as a prot warrior?>

Trinket selection is highly situational; some popular choices are:

  • Anima Field Emitter (Haste for defensive CDR and reasonable offensive power)
  • Blood-Spattered Scale (excellent for riding predictable damage spikes or as an oh shit button)
  • Shard of Annhylde's Aegis (wonderful damage reduction in multi-target, and still good on ST)
  • Reactive Defense Matrix (very solid damage reduction and damage output)
  • Decanter of Anima Charged Winds (straightforward damage trinket)

Personally I used to run the AFE all the time, but some gear upgrades have recently pushed my Haste much higher so I feel it's lost some value for me, and I'm mostly running RDM/Shard for M+. For Raids I change depending on the encounter.

cedar spear
#

Don't forget about Old Warrior Soul

median tulip
#

True, I did forget that (bitch won't drop me one). That's more or less a direct replacement for the AFE, so same comments apply.

jagged pier
#

u also forgot phial and sack

mental scarab
#

Matrix and phial yep then aegis and Matrix for DANGER ZONE deswind

teal swift
#

Is decanter even good?

#

I've been using the purple one with the screaming dude

#

Have a 236 decanter in bag I don't use lol

jagged pier
#

Its alright

teal swift
#

I wish I could describe the trinket I use

#

Thst isnt

#

I've been using the purple one with the screaming dude

jagged pier
teal swift
#

No I forget the name

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Lol

#

And it's the purple screaming dude trinket

jagged pier
#

Yer u know but to find which one is better sim

teal swift
#

For raid?

#

I did sin

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Sim

#

That's why I use those

median tulip
median tulip
teal swift
#

maybe

#

Yo NA Horde bois

#

lets kill H sylv

jagged pier
#

Should be using them in raid for every boss but slyv mythic

#

If u have matrix u can replace sack with that

tame jasper
rigid cedar
#

kyrian - spear legend prot war with crit build highest possible dam prot could do in m+ you reckon?

median tulip
median tulip
jagged pier
#

Dude a 233 sack does the same damage as 246 phial over a dungeon what you talking about higher ilvl its hymal all over again

#

Not just dungeons ST as well it pumps

#

Theres a reason why most top logs run both

blazing condor
#

still havent done taz once

jagged pier
#

Like just because it low ilvl means nothing look at the boomys using 194-203 bells even at that ilvl its fucking insane for them

blazing condor
#

ilvl has already lost its value because dom sockets prove its not all that

pallid hollow
teal swift
#

My only 100 ilvl parse im ever gonna get. . . why arent there more 218 mythic raid tanks?

crude notch
#

Kekw ilvl parses

strong forum
teal swift
#

HR changed my life

#

thanks lads.

#

Fuck bolster

strong forum
#

ive never once talented into HR

sick sentinel
#

whats the amount of rage we want to have before start dumping on revenge?

#

my guess is between 80-95

strong forum
#

idk 20

#

sweetspot is 35

sick sentinel
#

going to try to set something for over capping rage

#

only shows up when i've got full rage

strong forum
#

if youre at 85 rage, you wanna dump with ignore pain

#

cuz your next SS would cap your rage

#

and anywhere from 35 to 85 rage is revenge territory

#

the idea is, you dont wanna dump rage before needing to use SB again and be left without rage

teal swift
#

Better than bolster

#

I WAS using bolster

#

now im using HR

#

eventually anger management

blazing condor
#

as long as you got rage to use on SB then pump what you want

#

i mean yeah HR is better than bolster

strong forum
#

*if using reprisal

blazing condor
#

i just assume everyone does

north rampart
#

HR just for massive keys? AM for us normies?

blazing condor
#

p much

#

HR provides more shield block uptime which is kind of needed at those levels

strong forum
#

you can play HR in lower keys if you feel like you need it, but it shouldnt be "needed" until higher keys

#

even in higher keys its not needed, but its alot more chill to play

north rampart
#

i feel like an absolute rock in lower keys, but also outgear everything and have big heals on me

teal swift
#

dont interupt and cc

#

lmao

crude notch
#

interrupt shieldblock

#

hmm

#

I don't think shield block does what you think it does

strong forum
#

he means playing as DPS

teal swift
#

Your reading comprehension is garbage

blazing condor
#

D:

teal swift
#

I'll still hug you

#

dw

crude notch
#

Yuzu you aight man?

strong forum
#

cuz playing DPS in keys is literally just

teal swift
#

im choking on my hamsandwich

#

but im okay

crude notch
#

If your dps aren't interrupting what does that have to do with running HR?

#

Was my point

#

🀑

strong forum
#

it was more a comparison of "whats chill"

crude notch
#

You think just because you boost the server you can talk to people how you please? (yuzu)

strong forum
#

HR is more chill than AM, but DPS is more chill than tank

teal swift
#

lol

#

this fucking snowflake holy shit

strong forum
#

thats how i read it

#

no need to get insulting on both ends here

teal swift
#

Youre right.

crude notch
#

Hm

teal swift
#

Im sorry, i should treat these individuals with more respect.

crude notch
#

lol

north rampart
#

i read it as taking less auto attack damage with hr, makes the missed interupts less dangerous

teal swift
#

^

strong forum
#

wah

teal swift
#

WHen DPS dont CC / interupt, get your safety elsewhere

crude notch
#

Which is why i said what i said

strong forum
#

SW takes care of that

#

AM means SW is a 1.5min CD

crude notch
#

You said I misread when in fact you misread.

strong forum
crude notch
#

Nah not you him

#

Yuzu

teal swift
strong forum
#

ic

crude notch
#

In your own words

#

"Didn't ask"

blazing condor
north rampart
#

what level key to you start taking itf/hr?

blazing condor
#

be nice

strong forum
#

you dont take ITF period

blazing condor
#

no hard rule

strong forum
#

only for raid

blazing condor
#

when you feel like you'd need it

#

which is usually around 25+

teal swift
#

Youre a pretty cringe dude. See you mr.cringe im going to bed

crude notch
#

First not a mister

teal swift
#

see you ma'am

crude notch
#

Nice try, still missed.

strong forum
#

the sass

#

but anyway

#

drop it

blazing condor
#

πŸŒοΈβ€β™‚οΈ

strong forum
#

otherwise ill start muting Pepexecute

teal swift
#

I just blocked the person /shrug.

#

IM going to bed see you Nome

crude notch
blazing condor
#

sadge cant we all just get along

#

lets hold hands and sing

#

we shall overcome

strong forum
blazing condor
#

that's the true spirit of halloween

crude notch
#

Drops controversial take, flames anyone that calls him out for his take, insults person for being a snowflake, leaves saying everyone else is the problem.

#

The 101 of twitch chatters

#

How's everyone's day?

blazing condor
#

yep πŸ‘

sick sentinel
#

am alive, beats alterinative

strong forum
#

woke up 1hr ago, now have my pizza

blazing condor
#

Have you ever been dead yogi?

sick sentinel
#

just on inside

crude notch
#

Should try it.

blazing condor
#

If not how do you know? bedge

strong forum
#

have we ever been truly alive

crude notch
#

Can't knock something until you try it

blazing condor
#

I feel alive every time i dodge a debuff application

sick sentinel
#

nah

#

we just living in clown matrix world

restive ice
#

Yo prot chat a lot more interesting to read than fury ngl

modern brook
#

One of the specs is good

restive ice
#

Wtf bro

#

Toxic

modern brook
#

The other is a tank and we have nothing to do

strong forum
blazing condor
#

Arms

restive ice
crude notch
blazing condor
#

only cus none of yall wanna shut up about it

crude notch
#

Thought I was in Prot Pally at first

restive ice
#

You can block wicked bolt by not entering halls

crude notch
#

Fax

restive ice
#

Kind of a 5head strat

#

Don't share it tho

#

Gates must remain closed

crude notch
#

K I won't tell anyone

sick sentinel
#

i'm putting it off

crude notch
#

I think you need more details windows

#

Are you a raid leader?

distant crystal
#

gotta have that realtime buff uptime graph

modern brook
#

Completely unworried for you on that tbh

teal swift
#

Ahh bed feels soft

restive ice
#

😳

teal swift
#

Hunter saw me in brewfest dungeon weeks ago

#

Randomly messaged me wanting to take a picture with me

#

First interaction of this player

#

So wholesome

restive ice
#

Wth celebrity

teal swift
#

@restive ice cute pfp

#

Hairless cats are pog

restive ice
teal swift
#

Honestly looking like 18-21 keys gonna be ezpz

#

I never knew how comfy tanking was until I had 2 DPS using cc and interrupts

restive ice
#

If you can easily time a 15 then you can time a 20ratge

teal swift
#

I took like half the damage I normally do lmao

teal swift
strong forum
#

did you stop playing with your friends

teal swift
#

Kinda

strong forum
teal swift
#

Different friends

restive ice
#

Retard routes are cracked

#

Give me

jagged pier
restive ice
bright flax
#

New friends

teal swift
#

No one else wanted to run from 2 to 7 am

#

So I played with some people I don't typically

strong forum
#

na mustve been the class choice ratge

#

clearly

jagged pier
#

☝️

modern brook
#

Playing with a prot warrior after midnight? Pretty sure there's a horror movie about that

strong forum
#

i cant remember when i played any game after midnight

#

Boomeratur strikes again

teal swift
modern brook
#

I used to be a degen but now I'm a circadian rhythm fan. Biggest upgrade tbh

teal swift
#

Druid still easier, but warrior is so much fun

jagged pier
teal swift
#

I don't wanna not play warrior

strong forum
jagged pier
#

POG

#

the dream

strong forum
#

when i still raided i napped for like 40min before raid

#

so i wouldnt die

#

πŸ‘΄

jagged pier
#

wish i could that

modern brook
#

@strong forum do you still stream ?

jagged pier
#

he streams skyhold weekly

bright flax
#

The best weekly

modern brook
#

I was hoping for a long vod :(

strong forum
#

and some random bullshit every now and again

#

i play like 4hrs of vidya per week, not much to stream

bright flax
#

Random build vault runs

modern brook
#

Smh

#

Blizzard needs to make a better game so you stream more

modern brook
#

This is ridiculous

teal swift
#

I wake up 10 minutes before invites go out

bright flax
#

Idk why I grinded korthia rep, now theres nothing else to aim for

jagged pier
#

now u can play other games

bright flax
#

I aint hoping for another guild for CE Upgrades from m+ are meh at best
Score is just a number

jagged pier
#

or do it again on another char

bright flax
#

I did, prot pally is already 245

#

Already playing arms and thinking of healing some stuff on off times

modern brook
#

Have you considered doing it on a class that's fun?

bright flax
#

Hmmmmmm

modern brook
#

Play ww while you're still allowed

strong forum
#

ive been thinking of picking up a healer since m+ started being a thing

#

and always wanted to play priest

#

but

#

just never did

restive ice
#

Rogue very fun

strong forum
#

rogue is the enemy

#

die rogues die

modern brook
#

Rogues are losers

#

Hard fact

restive ice
bright flax
#

I really dont want to pick up the monk

#

Would do arenas for fun but everyone takes it too serious

restive ice
#

You know what I do

#

I go play aram

#

I am an aram rat

modern brook
bright flax
#

I kinda want to do silly memery stuff

modern brook
#

Oh go warlock then

bright flax
#

Yes I have considered holy

restive ice
#

Venthyr demolock

#

Impending catastrophe chad

bright flax
#

Hmmmmm

restive ice
#

Don't do it

#

It's terrible

modern brook
#

If you have a tank that isn't a virgin

bright flax
#

Terrible sounds fun

modern brook
#

You can hit like 25k+ dps on pulls at 200 ilvl with aff rn

#

It's actually stupid af

strong forum
#

i love that legion m+ affli is back

#

seed spam was the best iteration for me

bright flax
#

Have a druid at 50, my plans for him is to stay at 50

modern brook
#

Yeah

strong forum
#

spam seed and do infinite damge

#

love it

bright flax
#

You guys are teasing me with lock stuff

modern brook
#

You don't even need to gear cause their legendary gives you all the stats you'll ever need

#

It's actually the easiest class to pick up

teal swift
#

Man

bright flax
#

Whole journey in wow started as lock in tbc

teal swift
#

Idk what else to play

restive ice
#

Actually

bright flax
#

Seed spam was already fun in hyjal

restive ice
#

If you want something uncommon but quite strong

teal swift
#

Arms dpa is zuglife

restive ice
#

Try venthyr bm hunter

#

With the venthyr lego

teal swift
#

Prot warrior, we like to stick sticks in our bikes

restive ice
#

Razor pouch fragment

teal swift
#

Yo, I took a video of me in the shower

#

I should send it here, but it's hella off topic

bright flax
#

Naa i need a necro char

#

So i dont get screwed there in 9.1.5

teal swift
#

Oh I should do the Necro campaign

bright flax
#

Dh necro is the demon thingy right? Sounds annoying

#

If its like the trinket from SoD that spawns a little fella, was annoying

strong forum
#

its rng af

#

but funny

#

imagine necro monk

#

but worse

#

thats what necro DH is

restive ice
#

Necro shadow priest

teal swift
#

I uh

restive ice
#

Quite strong

teal swift
#

I wanna be nightfae for raid

#

So I can parse harder

#

Cause I'm a slut like that

jagged pier
#

i mean u can parse without being NF

strong forum
#

can legit get r1 with Kyr or NF

teal swift
#

Ofc I can

strong forum
#

and then you have that 1 necro dude

teal swift
#

Let me do what I want

jagged pier
#

☝️

strong forum
#

who can only shine on bosses where you can abuse Execute and no adds

jagged pier
#

fucking 100% execute crits during banner

bright flax
teal swift
#

I wish I could use my custom emoji

bright flax
#

Am a dps whore obviously

#

Vent pala, st build, iqd ows fun for this week

#

Fun for 2 minutes. My kind of fun

strong forum
#

IQD is your best trinket as necro

teal swift
strong forum
#

and 4min bosses

teal swift
#

Yuzu holding thunderfury

#

Best emoji

teal swift
#

Wasn't even that is expensive to commision

strong forum
#

you can just copy the image link

restive ice
#

Ashen jugg gaming

strong forum
#

itll embed it

restive ice
teal swift
strong forum
#

on mobile you cant

#

unless you open the browser desktop version on your mobile

bright flax
#

Anyone here tried vitality sacrifice anywhere?

strong forum
#

vit sac, now thats a name i havent heard in ages

jagged pier
#

it was great in beta

teal swift
#

Let's all use sephuz

#

For the neme

strong forum
#

iirc its now a 3-6% dmg and healing buff, nothing more

#

The effect is "Vitality", which can occur every 30 seconds, but while it is active the benefit can stack. At full stack, it increases your damage and healing by 9% of the damage you are taking.

#

so if you have 10k dtps, you get 900 dps ?

bright flax
#

That seems

#

Underwhelming

strong forum
#

yeah

bright flax
#

I need gigantic pulls to get that kind of dtps

#

Not sure 900 dps is gonna help me then

#

Even EM with proper crit rate seems better

teal swift
#

How big are the ignore pains

strong forum
#

atleast 7

teal swift
#

Does prot warrior even need a defensive Lego for raid?

strong forum
#

need is a strong word

#

most people just opt to run maximum damage in raid

#

coincidentally, thats also reprisal

#

or Natures Fury if youre NF

teal swift
#

Maybe I use kyrian lego

#

Or something

#

I'm not using reprisal for shit

#

I'm wasting so much dps

strong forum
#

sure, but its not more dmg than reprisal

#

its the same if anything

teal swift
#

On paper yes

#

But like reprisal on most fights

strong forum
#

not just on paper

teal swift
#

Is giving me like 80 rage

strong forum
#

well thats a you thing

teal swift
#

Because I use it 4 times and forget

#

No shit

strong forum
#

then yes, EM is gonna be more dmg

teal swift
#

I just said that

strong forum
#

gotta put in the work if you want the results

teal swift
teal swift
#

I'm reallt bad, honestly I can't say that

#

Im above average

#

But that's such a low fucking bar.

#

KSM, parsing somewhat well, playing the raid well in general even if I'm not hitting my buttons.

But that's not good enough. I want full 20s, and clean logs esp if I can't prog deep this tier.

restive ice
#

Start with surviving tho , it'll be really weird to play ows phial and crit then die

strong forum
#

Surviving is easy

teal swift
#

Okay, so line mythic eye pugging

#

Has been hell

#

That fight fucking punches my shit in

#

Can't block fuckall

#

And can only reflect the eye add

#

But it's not why were wiping

strong forum
#

Well that's pugging

teal swift
#

I was taking black pool because I wasn't moving fast enough

#

And that dot murders

#

Once I fixed that, I was stable

#

But still

bright flax
# teal swift

to be fair, the moment you start dying for that you'll start to improve it

#

its normal to not care about it if the content is not challenging enough

#

you still get the tiny benefit from pull charging and the odd charge when you get away - specially this week with necrotic

#

when you suddenly want to get more uptime you'll start to intervene almost on cd, and eventually go the extra mile with HR

sullen tangle
strong forum
#

sounds like a solid combo