how can i kil bos when no play game???
#protection
sweet summit
strong forum
Slight chance it'll reset raid ID
craggy pilot
fucking mwahi with his sensibility ๐คฃ
ionic fern
Don't kill boss?
strong forum
Pausechamp
ionic fern
Jeah, my bad.
sweet summit
PauseChamp
strong forum
Twice the loot
ionic fern
"OH NO!! WTF BAD!!"
lofty widget
looks to me like it's bnet launcher thats under maintenance at that time
craggy pilot
"OH NO!! WTF BAD!!"
โค๏ธ
lofty widget
regular wow maintenance should still be at 3-4 am
ionic fern
^
craggy pilot
the msg says "game will be unplayable"
sweet summit
^
ionic fern
That's the default message for everything.
lofty widget
copy paste probably
sweet summit
hmmm
craggy pilot
ionic fern
Np.
craggy pilot
seems like the different messaging does not allign
like wtf does "the game will be unavailable" mean in the battle.net launcher?
is battle.net launcher a game in itself now? ๐คฃ
ionic fern
Panic tomorrow if there's a reason to panic.
craggy pilot
ionic fern
I'm gonna FLIP OUT if i can't wipe to a mythic boss for the 500th time tomorrow!!
craggy pilot
ye i also meant LFR bro
โค๏ธ
im at 70th wipe on LFR Sylv
hopefully we can clear it tomorrow โค๏ธ
ionic fern
My boss kills are from Jakeys guilds mercy.
craggy pilot
๐
i dont even get to play Prot in Raid unless i pug ๐ฆ
and i alrdy did 10/10 with Prot 3 weeks ago in HC
ionic fern
Damn man, calm down..making me look casual.
sweet summit
10/10 mythic when @craggy pilot
sweet summit
yeah
craggy pilot
oh shit since when
sweet summit
craggy pilot
full Prot warr raid when?
btw i can finally open my vault in Prot โค๏ธ
got 252 2h last vault ๐ช
sweet summit
pogging
ionic fern
I'm still waiting for that Phial.
ionic fern
I don't think so?
craggy pilot
rather upgrade my 226 Aegis
sick sentinel
Yes
craggy pilot
I don't think so?
ah probably right
sick sentinel
Im using phil and matrix
sick sentinel
Ows in m+ can be meh
ionic fern
Ows in m+ can be meh
Sorry, what?
sweet summit
(plaguefall is the only dungeon i would actively use fury lootspec in for 1hander and phial)
craggy pilot
Ows in m+ can be meh
๐
sweet summit
ows owns
craggy pilot
OW(n)S
craggy pilot
It's "meh" if you wait 15s + every time you pull another pack.
damn that would be kinda pepega if you had OWS
sick sentinel
๐
That what i mean
I didnt even to.tell u more
Ppl arent chaining pull most of time
craggy pilot
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/sunstrider/Pandafar
my current gear, feel like theres nothing much i can upgrade other than 252 weapons or Aegis/Matrix
craggy pilot
Ppl arent chaining pull most of time
but arent you the tank 
sick sentinel
And with phial is a dot when u kiting its still ticking so it depends i guess
sick sentinel
but arent you the tank <:peepostudy:617259554530656262>
I am not always but yep
My ows is lfr tho ahhahaha
craggy pilot
well ye then ofc it sucks ๐
sick sentinel
If u have matrix scale or aegis ofc that can be better than phial , but phial as its place
ionic fern
OWS + Aegis
OWS + Matrix
OWS + Phial
would be my combos..IF I had any of the other 3.
sick sentinel
or Matrix+Phial
Ahahhh thats mine xd
I would go scale and matrix i could show from any
And ows raid wise
pale gust
you can get Phial in Prot right?
nop
sick sentinel
It depends whatever u have
craggy pilot
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/sunstrider/Pandafar
my gear is like this, my vault is looking like this
3x chances of OWS
thinking ill open with Prot
should i still try to get some M+ done before the reset? ๐ค
guessing M+ will give me chance of backup 252 shield
in case the 3 raid drops are poopoo
craggy pilot
can i make this WA work off stuff like Hakkar Piercing Barb? ๐ค
sweet summit
yeah
craggy pilot
pog
gonna try to make a few and see if they work/help me out
making WAs play the game for me
ivory coral
every dk spec 
ionic plank
so is this like
in the 15-20 bracket for example
you win by getting the single highest scoring key in that bracket
(so it will be like a 12 min +20 nw)
is that right?
craggy pilot
every dk spec <:Detective:814893739494473750>
wasnt UH DK pretty strong in S1?
ionic plank
yeah
craggy pilot
i also dont get why they saying Prot Pala is break the meta
ionic plank
these are split by current playrate though
because theyre split by play rate
bottom 50% of specs for each role
are eligible
ionic plank
a single prot pally
ivory coral
wasnt UH DK pretty strong in S1?
its still fine people just dont play it, the specs in break the meta are just based on popularity not strength
craggy pilot
ah its Andybrew right? ๐
mellow bridge
cptrogers and lonecrusader is both andy
just transfered server and changed name
so it's legit 1 pally timign those keys
craggy pilot
theres also Zipponn doing 27s
plush tendon
dont matter
craggy pilot
looks like theres less Brew though
plush tendon
just cause you have one chad, doesnt mean its meta
craggy pilot
why is brew not a break the meta spec then?
mellow bridge
i wonder what stats theyre using
plush tendon
probably just more popular overall
mellow bridge
pally is more popular than brew
mellow bridge
this is weird
ionic plank
well
mellow bridge
like even if you filter to 15 and up
or 20 and up
pally is more popular than brew
sick sentinel
i don't like monk tank as i'v said many times, i run in and try to to attacks, then i'm dying so i do my 2 stagger things, then i have heavy stagger and i die
mellow bridge
then youre just playing it wrong yogi
ionic plank
that's how the raiderio article said it was split
mellow bridge
not much else to say
ionic plank
๐คทโโ๏ธ
ionic plank
yeah I hadn't looked into it
sick sentinel
this was bfa mind you, but i just don't like brew master tank
ionic plank
brew is way less popular than prot
plush tendon
ionic plank
warrior has fury!
craggy pilot
take away fury then ๐
sweet summit
sick sentinel
i dunno, i like all the classes to have different timings and mechanics, just, not 33% of all runs only done by this class
craggy pilot
fixed
craggy pilot
but man, something like Prot Pally, Assa Rogue, Resto Druid, Arcane Mage, Havoc DH will be fuckin OP
probably the Havoc DH is replaceable
ionic plank
they said havoc and arcane are only there cos they wanted 1 spec per class
those are both in the top 50% but lowest spec of their class
lmao
sick sentinel
i try to bring DH in my groups if im going to include a mage and 1 other caster
ionic plank
havoc is very good rn
sick sentinel
shout buffs dh, dh buffs casters, everyone happy
plush tendon
they said havoc and arcane are only there cos they wanted 1 spec per class
kind of ruins the point imo
sit the mages and dh
ionic plank
yeah it's just not breaking the meta anymore is it
break the meta, oh but we dont want the meta to feel left out
craggy pilot
ye so if you do Prot Palla, Arcane Mage, Havoc DH, Assa Rogue, and Resto Druid
you would be pretty set tbh ๐
sick sentinel
arcane could probably be really good in m+ arcane explosion spam is huge damage
ionic plank
holy priest is underrated too tbf
plush tendon
Arcane is VERY strong in M+
plush tendon
Its just not as popular as Fire or Frost right now
dusky canopy
I'm perfectly OK being the less represented tank
sick sentinel
arcane you just run in and spam hell out of AE, blasts on bosses
plush tendon
yea, yo @ ion we need buffs
craggy pilot
is it a set amount of Affixes or what?
plush tendon
arcane you just run in and spam hell out of AE, blasts on bosses
its mostly about the thick arcane barrage
that shit smacks
dusky canopy
People see a 2700 VDH and their like yeah w/e flavor of the month spec
craggy pilot
the FOTM spec is Guardian Druid tho
dusky canopy
People see a 2700 Prot war and their like yooo giga Chad tank
Wait till we get double leggo boys
plush tendon
wait till bear gets double lego -_-
craggy pilot
Blizz be like 1 day before 9.1.5
"HEY YOU CAN NOW GET 2 LEGGOS"
pale gust
reprisal+em?
craggy pilot
EM + Seismic bro
plush tendon
Reprisal plus damage option
sick sentinel
reprisal seismic double leggos is the obvious
dusky canopy
Reprisal+Seismic is what I'll be running
plush tendon
Seimic most likley or glory if Necro
plush tendon
dusky canopy
Maybe if kyrian
craggy pilot
charge in, spam all CDs
ionic plank
reprisal + seismic sounds mental
dusky canopy
Honestly seismic+EM with mikanikos sounds nutty
That'll be the damage play I bet you watch
sweet summit
seismic reprisal tho 
dusky canopy
However being able to turtle and damage at the same time will be the best value
sweet summit
idt i'd every play anything else in keys
sick sentinel
i'd like to try to mess around with the wall + unbreakable if i was more serious raid setting possibly
craggy pilot
ah fuck
dusky canopy
Reprisal+seismic will be the meta
dusky canopy
Reprisal ups seismic value obvi
sweet summit
seismic on head ๐
dusky canopy
Nah nah
craggy pilot
need that Dom socket bruv ๐คฃ
dusky canopy
Reprisal Legs, Seismic feet
Unless you get Mythic KT then you'd have to move one so you can get the higher item level drop from KT
sweet summit
blazing condor
Its been a rough few days
plush tendon
wtb corruption
jagged pier
no thats where vers came from
ionic fern
โ๏ธ
sweet summit
it was fun
sweet summit
sick sentinel
sick sentinel
proc td hope it goes in right direction and kills something
was nice to just pray for mobs to be be deleted/chunked
ionic fern
Just run td and leech. Td procs = full hp.
sick sentinel
i want a mini TD on some class shaman or lock makes most sense
"dark vortex" or some shit
lime urchin
Tiddies! I loved mah tiddies!
plush tendon
too many clean runs ruined by beams through walls; looking at you Matron in WM -_-
still, the bois and I miss Freehold
what a fun dungeon ๐ฆ
brittle owl
too many clean runs ruined by beams through walls; looking at you Matron in WM -...
you misspelled "pad"
plush tendon
I mean.... it was damage that had to be done XD
brittle owl
nono
it was damage that had been done
anyway fuck td
and similar mechanics
pos system
plush tendon
still, was funny to pull a big pack, group has all their cds ready, and then a beam of death comes out and kills it all
plush tendon
happened all the time on our VDH
dont know how he proced TD so much
he just did
and it always came in pairs of two or three and im like 'yea, thats fair'
ionic fern
TD was horrible.
I only remember trying to play well and be like "Oh..this guy did everything else a lot worse than i did while having a lot worse gear but his TD had more procs so i guess he's better".
ionic fern
*Leech
plush tendon
TD on Nzoth was fun
on my BDK at least
raid was like 'why is the tank above all of you??' and im like 'tee hee'
mellow bridge
until a td procc killed a synapse before the big guy was close enough
plush tendon
sometimes TD goes brrr
plush tendon
Vision of Perfection VDH build?
plush tendon
I thought you went with both
brittle owl
the aoe taunt thingie
plush tendon
gluttony and Visions
brittle owl
pop that, proc glutt, proc td
mellow bridge
you went with vop generally ye
brittle owl
vop was neglijible, only used in uber high keys
mellow bridge
but most proccs came from gluttony
brittle owl
in raid it didn't matter, so you went with cof or something
plush tendon
100% CoF in raid
mellow bridge
oh yeah in raid you went that
brittle owl
or you used the aoe taunt one for the aoe bosses and prayed for procs at rhe right time
balmy coral
Got me a 252 shield
I coulda gotten 252 shoulders as mine are 233, but upgradeable, shield was 239
And those shoulders were not dom sockets either
sick sentinel
advice to have ur debuff near middle so u can check it easier, any wa?
plush tendon
Got me a 252 shield
shield is always better
fresh kettle
first week rolling for prot not really sure which one to take
grand glacier
Id take the sword for dps, the scale for survivability (mostly in m+, less for raiding), or the neck. That said, I don't know you gear so those are some general pointers.
silk edge
Belt and neck are bis from dungeon. If you have acces to mythic the nine iโd take belt
Else iโd take the trinket
jagged pier
Id take the sword for dps, the scale for survivability (mostly in m+, less for r...
well thats wrong as scale is better in raid than m+ We have much better m + trinkets
grand glacier
Isn't Girdle of the Soulflayer a better choice since it offers haste?
jagged pier
i mean the neck is like the only high haaste neck in the game
grand glacier
well thats wrong as scale is better in raid than m+ We have much better m + trin...
Okey, such as? All I can find on WoWHead and IcyVeins is Scale, Old Worrier Soul and Shard of Annhylde's Aegis. Mybe Codex of the First Techinque and Viscera of Coalesced Hatred. I thought all others were meh.
fresh kettle
Okey, such as? All I can find on WoWHead and IcyVeins is Scale, Old Worrier Soul...
yeah and subcreation all high keys have scale, im confused if im missing something
plush tendon
I mean, sword is pretty cool
and you raiding so a Aegis is in your future
I can feel it
blazing condor
Question is do i open vault as prot for matrix or arms for weapons
I literally only need matrix as prot
sick sentinel
first week rolling for prot not really sure which one to take
scale is defining, mostly for m+ but its good in raid too
jagged pier
Okey, such as? All I can find on WoWHead and IcyVeins is Scale, Old Worrier Soul...
aegis insane like normal ageis is better than a 252 scale matrix is also busted they are by far the best 2 m+ trinkets
plush tendon
Question is do i open vault as prot for matrix or arms for weapons
I say arms; if you kill guardian each week, you have a chance at matrix
Matrix also isnt like some game changing trinket. Strong, but it can be substituted
wild hemlock
I got a 246 phial 246 scale 252 emitter 252 opc. What would you equip for m+
strong forum
scale or opc( depending on what you want, dmg or surv) + phial
wild hemlock
Is emitter kinda poop compared to the others or still really strong for us
plush tendon
Emitter gives good haste
but pool on the ground is meh, and comparatively, its just not as good
still, not a bad trinket
at least its not 
woven laurel
is nf or kyrian better for m+ atm?
plush tendon
NF=Kyrian
Its dependent on more factors
the biggest one being, if you dont have a Kyrian or NF in your group, it is worth to fill
sick sentinel
nf by a bit
plush tendon
But damage is very similar, Kyrian probably edges NF out a little bit (with Milk and Kyrian is uncapped). NF AA knockdowns are very strong in certain packs and for groups who lack interrupts or aoe stops. Kyrian tether a bit more niche utility but still useful.
woven laurel
thanks, milanikos is the go to tree now right
plush tendon
Milk in pretty much all situations; the tree is in the pins that Nom suggests if you also play arms
woven laurel
great thanks
safe thistle
mmmmmmmm is sinful really making a difference over celestial on ST ?
seems like sinful on st and lightless for m+ but celestial for both ? i use celestial so far
strong forum
The consensus is for everyone the same in terms of enchants
Sinful on ST
Just like you said
safe thistle
k
obtuse monolith
Finally the 213 shoulders go in the trash. Dropped 233 from N Sylv, vaulted 246 bracers, and upgrading Dyz to R5.
Finally a good Tuesday
tame jasper
gratz @obtuse monolith
sick sentinel
yeah, i'm torn when i have to choose 2nd covenant
all of them are good really, even flag boy if have groups for it
all of them seem good, most attracted to venth/nf
maybe there is some big brain flag strategy nobody has bothered to work out yet, we take some guy that super needs mastery and voltron him m+ to 1 shot all the trash
plush tendon
You should ideally have all 4 leveled up once 9.1.5 comes out
so, depending on dungeon comp, you can fill in dungeon buff
granted you pug a lot of your keys yea?
sick sentinel
4? like as in main + 3 alts with caught up?
know you have to be 80, but i thought it locked you into 2nd choice till you 80'd that
plush tendon
you only need 80 on one I think
and if youve done the campaign on a toon already you can skip it as well
sick sentinel
i think there is alot of hidden potential with the flag that we are over looking
sick sentinel
a damage spell for another player that scales infinitely with mastery
plush tendon
and there is nothing wrong with banner
its just unfun for a lot of us
since then you a buff bitch
lofty widget
sucks gimping yourself for others fun
sick sentinel
theres the obvious ways to fix it like it gets a gold protection zone that (stops damage somehow) + (heal over [duration]) or (puts a plague cloud around the targeted area, enemies who enter take X over [duration])
but, they sound boring
obsidian girder
Hey @plush tendon @strong forum thanks for your help yesterday. We managed to push deeper into the Sylvanas encounter
craggy pilot
when i just wanna do a quick +15 for vault
this is dps for Executer Tarvold
add was not dying, and wiping everyone
225 monk heal :<
overall dmg is amazing to see lol
sick sentinel
friggin paladins again
always stealing everybody limelight, better healers, tanks and dps (+bubble)
strong forum
Das sad overall
strong forum
But kinda your fault for in inviting casters to 15z
craggy pilot
i was the last one in
i didnt build the grp
the monk was outputting almost negative healing though
strong forum
Casters don't do dmg below 20somethings
craggy pilot
and no interrupts made it a shitshow
ye 2 locks + priest for add phase on Sanguine 2nd boss ๐
didnt work well
sick sentinel
i ask my self same thing
and i think its a combination of not geting in close enough long enough, not facing shit, and not hitting buttons
strong forum
He prolly held his CDs for the big pull
sick sentinel
and its just all 3 things that im doing wrong at once
craggy pilot
sometimes im thinking, would it be viable to just put prot warr in grp not using taunt, and just spamming Revenge without popping defensives, with Seismic? ๐
strong forum
A, warlock needs to literally use his CDs on CD
craggy pilot
just for pure dmg
strong forum
Otherwise he will never do any dmg
sick sentinel
heres a question, how do i filter out jukn from ability team tracker and only track shit that actually matters
craggy pilot
and the 3 others just spam Revenge with Seismic
craggy pilot
heres a question, how do i filter out jukn from ability team tracker and only tr...
probably in the settings?
sick sentinel
i have no clue what a "barkskin" really is besides its something druids do so we don't die
craggy pilot
sick sentinel
or if its something i need to care about
blazing condor
I mean every external healing ability that can be of benefit to you is always worth caring about
But its only really in a coordinated group on voice chat you can make use of tracking externals
So you can easily call for them
halcyon pasture
is any profession particularly better than the rest?
Edit: at this point in the game.
dark lark
Just to confirm: 252 m terry neck (big mastery/haste) > 246 kt neck (big haste/crit) even though kt neck has 117 more haste?
balmy coral
We did it boys, tanked an HOA +17, my most hated dungeon, SOOO MUCH MAGIC DAMAGE FFS, but it was worth it!
craggy pilot
gz my dood
dark lark
Halls is low key the most difficult dungeon to tank, so gj
sick sentinel
still lookin for info on why greivous says "venthyr" when i hover over in on mythic dungeon tab as well, i assume is cov addon letting me know
i think its something to do with bleed debuff conduit, but honestly not sure
craggy pilot
its probably some addon you have bro
sick sentinel
yep, but it had to have been put there by someone at some point
someone clearly figured something out between the 2 things
jade tartan
halcyon pasture
is the fire breathing food comparable in damage to the +crit food for M+
urban portal
still lookin for info on why greivous says "venthyr" when i hover over in on myt...
You'll be the first one to discover it
Because no one knows about this
modern brook
is the fire breathing food comparable in damage to the +crit food for M+
U get style points
sick sentinel
you get 50 dkp minus too because you didnt know wtf to do (joke cuz its bad, was bad in bfa as well)
actual meme teir food buff
feral drift
wowhead rec's Elysian Might as Haste Verse but theres nothing wrong with going Haste Crit right? If Im going damage tank, why not go all in?
sick sentinel
i did EM for arms spec
cinder nova
I'm thinking about dropping my anima sphere conduit for Stalwart Guardian
cinder nova
wowhead rec's Elysian Might as Haste Verse but theres nothing wrong with going H...
If you wanna go all-in it's Crit/Vers > Haste > Masty
feral drift
Thats fair too, verse does mean more dmg
cinder nova
But yes, EM is the highest Kyrian DPS leggo ST.
feral drift
bah, ill reassess when 9.1.5 comes out
cinder nova
I don't know if any numbers have come in over the changes to the Venthyr leggo
feral drift
my crit haste EM has gotten me 3 flawlesses in torghast so far
cinder nova
Flawless?
sick sentinel
i did seismic crit/haste cuz crit is parry
cinder nova
Seismic is heads and shoulders over EM for cleave.
But does literally nothing 2 or less targets.
EM is a decent middle-ground, but pretty sure your overall is gonna be eons higher with SR
cinder nova
EM, Reverb, maybe Rep
sick sentinel
how about rep, SR, tw
feral drift
anyone have a route for DOS 15?
lofty widget
https://wago.io/pc69Fmb4B this is what i usually run
chilly brook
remember not to get deleted on trash cuz of fort
Honestly DoS fort>DoS Tyran
mellow bridge
Honestly not going dos > doing dos
urban portal
getting scale/iqd/opc>not getting scale/iqd/opc
ocean yoke
shut summit
ya it does
river escarp
If you're running HR, would haste become less of a priority stat for m+ and raid?
plush tendon
If you're running HR, would haste become less of a priority stat for m+ and raid...
No, haste still strong
median tulip
Stat priority would still be Dom Socket > iLvl > Haste (pre-DR) > rest
polar hamlet
Hey guys, currently playing bear tank, but want to get into prot warrior as brown class is the most awesome class. with bear & incarn up i can pull like half the dungeon. Is prot warrior able to do the same? (and live ofcourse)
sweet summit
if the key level is low enough yeah :^)
teal swift
strong forum
Nobody can pull incarn big
restive ice
Makes you able to spam thrash
Which becomes really stupid with UFR
Since every thrash is giving you like a 15k absorb shield or some shit
pallid hollow
Basically you do 15k hps while having 10 ironfur stacks
restive ice
Granted you're pulling big yeah
strong forum
Frenzied regen has only like 5sec CD during it
So even without huge pulls you're quite immortal
strong forum
Hey, you only get +20 or 30% haste ontop of it aswell
strong forum
More like 80%
But ye
Guardian owned in legion tho
So that argument can't be made
mental scarab
Season one sucked But that was my start st tanking for our main tank stoped playing
strong forum
Nobody did
mental scarab
But reaping
strong forum
If you liked infested you are just wrong
stuck scaffold
Yo why does seismic reverb affect revenge and not thunderclap
strong forum
Cuz this game kaka
brittle owl
@blizzard
stuck scaffold
And why does thunderclap do booboo damage
strong forum
Cuz Blizzard likes to overrreact
pallid hollow
Echoes of bfa nuke
mental scarab
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echo egret
Tough choices... upgrade from 239 weapon or 239 trinkets
echo egret
it's just that it took me the whole season 1 to get the 226 scale
jagged pier
but scale is meh now
echo egret
yep and I have it 239
echo egret
(actually even got a 2nd one int he raid slot of the vault)
sweet summit
ionic fern
OH.
Wrists
I still got 226 wrists.
Or a shield..or a weapon.
Damn, i actually need a lot of things.
jagged pier
primal cape
The game just want to give me trinkets i guess
I have the ring yet, what would fit better with OPC 252 ?
polar hamlet
hmm, so ill get dissapointed going from bear to prot ?:/
primal cape
What do you mean
sweet summit
nah you'll do more damage ๐
polar hamlet
alright ๐ sounds good to me
mellow gorge
should i replace my 220 scale or 229 (from this patch) anima emitter with this?
urban portal
Pls don't
mellow gorge
that doesn't sound too bad
but just wondering what to replace, scale is too good, but i can upgrade anima emitter
jagged pier
id replace scale
mellow gorge
Alrighty
blazing condor
Scale is so 9.0
urban portal
Feels bad taking it from vault tho
fathom dragon
Is belt the better choice here?
I don't owe a scale yet btw, equipped are my best trinkets atm
quiet crane
Iโd go belt
Reasoning is that itโs socketed and can go to 246 and you can farm either anyway
At that Ilvl
So Iโm thinking more long term
vocal geode
I'd go belt and upgrade it to 246 but that's just me
scale is definitely gonna be a decent defensive option over the ones you have
but aegis from raid will replace scale if you get it
fathom dragon
Got it, that settles it. I'll take the belt. Thanks!
vocal geode
also transmog 
fathom dragon
I'm a mechagnome, we don't do transmog
vocal geode
I made my mechagnome look like a normal gnome
except for the feet
cant change the feet smh
blazing condor
couldnt decide if i wanted to open as arms or prot
i need 2h wep for OS but matrix for prot
decide to open as prot
realize i didnt actually do any SoD this week so i couldnt have gotten matrix anyway
get gimped
sweet summit
umbral coral
hello i want to know what to take
ionic plank
umbral coral
ionic plank
yeah jesus christ
jagged pier
thats a nice vault
ionic plank
probably weapon though, seeing as yours is only 213
strong forum
Chest if you want the bloodset bonus
Weapon if you want to be done with grinding for a weapon
Shield if you want to be done with grinding a shield
Matrix if you want a really good trinket
umbral coral
ok ty
strong forum
It probably comes down to weapon vs shield
umbral coral
which onr ?
strong forum
252
umbral coral
ok
strong forum
Unless you want the transmog from KT sword
Cuz that will last forever 
Just know
That your luck for all of SL has run out
You got 5 huge options
umbral coral
THX
ionic fern
How is everyone getting a shield this week.
craggy pilot
my 246 has leech though ๐
ionic fern
craggy pilot
i still have 226 Aegis ๐ฆ
sick sentinel
They also offering mystery h raid item for doing 4 m+
sick sentinel
239
sick sentinel
Zeros count if you are lazy/no time
Yup anything at all that can drop for your selected spec
Quest is literal right beside vault
ionic plank
is that the rune of power trinket?
craggy pilot
ye went with BIS ring +socket ๐
craggy pilot
vaults should be openable on phone or some shit ๐
i hate being at work on wednesdays
craggy pilot
then you have Dratnos with his 253 warrior still getting upgrades from Great Vault
craggy pilot
lol
ionic plank
just put all our characters into a spin the wheel
craggy pilot
thats actually nice ngl
ionic plank
thats actually nice ngl
it's cosy
and worse for them because none of them work on wednesdays
so they're all waiting for me to get home
craggy pilot
haha
niceeee
i will pitch that for my guild
we can just do it as a full guild 1hr before raid
sweet summit
do it over discord to hear 20+ sighs at once
ionic plank
craggy pilot
they did write "game will be unavailable"
so thinking the game will be down, but cant be 100% sure ofc
ionic fern
Did they confirm it if it's a one time thing or not?
craggy pilot
but why would they apologize like this if its only login servers?
ionic fern
If it is a one time thing - who cares.
craggy pilot
wouldnt they say "hey guys you got it all wrong, its just login servers dont worry your raid is fine"
ionic plank
I don't really care, also don't raid on weds so that helps
I just don't understand why they'd need to do it at such a bad time
vocal geode
Matrix if you want a really good trinket
is matrix that good
I traded mine to a tank when I forgot to switch loot spec
sweet summit
yes...
halcyon shard
@sweet summit vers
vocal geode
moment of silence for my off spec trinkets
sweet summit
@halcyon shard rogue
halcyon shard
what the fuck did you just say to me
sweet summit
talk shit get a kidney shot
sick sentinel
talk shit get a kidney shot
picture EXTREMELY related
sweet summit
blazing condor
Nothing personell kid
oblique garnet
stop doing weekly on geared characters
3 of my characters need gear
sweet summit
sad !
blazing condor
Sap !
ionic fern
Almost like me when i accidentally taunted the tormentor off @jagged pier yesterday 2 times when i was healing.
blazing condor
Tank brain monka
ionic plank
gotta keep ur tank on their toes
cant make life too easy, just randomly taunt every now and again
stray hemlock
What is the crit soft cap? I'm at just over 1000
ionic fern
Jeah, i'm a team player.
Sharing the damage.
ionic plank
1000 crit pog
ionic fern
What is the crit soft cap? I'm at just over 1000
If you mean the DR point then the first one is 1050.
strong forum
is matrix that good
Matrix is really really good
vocal geode
how is it in dungeons?
stray hemlock
Yah the dr point. Is it 1050 for haste aswell?
vocal geode
I only tank keys anyways
vocal geode
time to clear hc raid later today with prot spec
strong forum
Yah the dr point. Is it 1050 for haste aswell?
Haste is 990
vocal geode
watch me get both
stray hemlock
You mean matrix and phial nomeratur?
stray hemlock
=)
blazing condor
She did go brr
sick sentinel
lame, blue balled
OOF
well, it wouldn't have to go inifnite, but i'd still love to see it chain like up to 10
even 5
stray hemlock
@strong forum why aegis+matrix over phial+matrix for m+ ? I realize it's only a suggestion, but figured you'd always suggest the damage route
strong forum
Well aegis is stupidly overpowered in m+
And if you're pushing keys, you want a defensive trinket
strong forum
For normal weekly keys you obv just go max dmg
stray hemlock
Thanks @strong forum @ionic fern
woven laurel
Is venthyr prot going to be any good come 9.1.5?
sick sentinel
venthyr prot destroys rage bars, which in short means we die
cuz, you just end up spamming hell out of execute
woven laurel
Lets say you know how to hold back on execute lol
sick sentinel
i've never gone venthyr war, but i've heard nomer saying its fine, but its not ideal at all
only real viable conduits is draven
woven laurel
Ok thanks
sick sentinel
do it if you want to have a rough time
woven laurel
Lmao
ionic fern
Any covenant is fine.
It's good on ST but outside of that it's w/e.
NF/Kyrian just provide a ton more.
strong forum
Draven is actually not good now iirc
@sweet summit
Venthyr man
Do venthyr things
sweet summit
i am night fae man
draven is still the best ehp soulbind in the game but you will more often than not run nadjia in m+
silk edge
hey is it normal that my 252 chest sims higher than 239 bek shard in patchwerk 5 targets ?
silk edge
also do you know if tormentor are affected by inspiring ? it think it does but not sure
lofty widget
they are
silk edge
k thx!
primal cape
does inspiring give more % damages ?
blazing condor
also do you know if tormentor are affected by inspiring ? it think it does but n...
they are
but that's only relevant for the fire guy
but the first pack in mists usually line those two up so thats a no no
jagged pier
dw i was seoncd on dps in a 19 this morning
primal cape
as we are the less played tank, i suggest adding us a mono stun for 60 sec and remove the cage from DH for this week
steel mist
It's kinda sad to see those numbers
Tank pumps and has to carry the full group and doing two roles at the same time for the slackers
primal cape
overtimed a +16 sagde ๐
primal cape
by like 30 sec
do you have the amount of heal from Fueled ?
craggy pilot
do you have the amount of heal from Fueled ?
why?
obtuse monolith
i've never gone venthyr war, but i've heard nomer saying its fine, but its not i...
Condemn gives an absorb value too. Dpr and hpr are good really. The annoying part is 80%->20% since Prot doesnโt get Massacre. So you donโt have it available even half the time
primal cape
randomly spying to see if my boy playing the best ๐
primal cape
I look at the best ofc 
primal cape
Were you trying the conduit ? It feels a bit weak
primal cape
You want to avoid the autouse from phial?
primal cape
What about the IP conduit if you do lot of damages ?
I was thinking about that when asking the question
plush tendon
both kind of meh
craggy pilot
ver much meh
craggy pilot
soulglow spectrometer is quite nice
i would rather go left on top, and get Adaptive Armor
but then i wouldnt have M+ Arms setup
sweet summit
auto phial ๐คข
sweet summit
for sure
dusky canopy
Lol what.. 3rd week in a row getting a 252 wep.. GIVE ME MATRIX GAME๐
craggy pilot
a guy from my guild just got 3rd Jaithys...
dusky canopy
I'm only on 2 for that one....
craggy pilot
he got 4 weeks of weapons ๐
dusky canopy
The lucks there just not where I need it lol.. rip
orchid frigate
if i do hc sylvanas and then the 3 first bosses is the GV item 239 or 246?
strong forum
What about the IP conduit if you do lot of damages ?
It's roughly equal to the fueled by violence one
Both equal to 2% leech
I have 30-40% uptime on IP, making the 6% leech turn into 2-2.3% leech overall
But fueled by violence works better for arms, so I use that one
distant crystal
@orchid frigate it'll be random items from bosses you have killed, not necessarily last week, just any time
so maybe 239, maybe 246
orchid frigate
hmm ok. ty ๐
modern brook
a guy from my guild just got 3rd Jaithys...
rustic tusk
hey guys can i tank with nf or i have to be kyrian
modern brook
^
blazing condor
more or less
modern brook
cov matters basically not at all
blazing condor
at least dmg wise
rustic tusk
ok ok perfect
modern brook
shitty soulbinds and somehow does less st than kyriannf
but even then if you want to stay ven for fury
like prot doesnt really give a shit
blazing condor
if u got a shield u can do whatever tf u want
tribal yacht
any solid tips for P1/P3 Mythic Sylvannis tanking and dealing with the amount of incoming damage?
feel like i'm getting absolutely plowed by ranger heartseeker
er banshee heartseeker
carmine pine
Sylv just fucks hard
sweet summit
so what i did the one night i had to tank was playing the wall and having either shield wall/scale (didn't have aegis) or an external for heartseeker
tribal yacht
that's the feeling i was getting
sweet summit
just making an ert note or mental note of what to use and when
carmine pine
You need to have something up for each set but even then shes rough
tribal yacht
I felt like in order to deal with the incoming damage i had to have a full stack of IP + Spell Reflect and Block
sweet summit
it was quite early on prog so i only saw a bit of p2 as tank, but i imagine p3 is basically the same as p1 but with soaking other platforms
tribal yacht
and if i had to ear 6 stacks i needed a personal or Aegis/Scale
I definitely felt like Aegis was more effective than scale as one Heartseeker would obliterate a 246 scale shield
even a 239 aegis
sweet summit
yeah
aegis is just really really good
especially on things like that
and p3 for when you have loads of stacks
tribal yacht
whats the interval between each Heartseeker set?
is it 30 seconds?
i know in p1 there's a couple sets where you get 2 back to back
sweet summit
i guess this is a better picture for timers ish in p1
tribal yacht
when major nerfs come, i'd be willing to bet that interval or dmg gets reduced
it certainly feels like it's exceptionally challenging to deal with
or maybe i'm just a scrub lol
sweet summit
the boss already got a major nerf ๐
but they didn't change damage intake (except for chains indirectly)
scenic ore
Was doing sylvanas hc last night and me and my co-tank have had issues where the taunts miss. Wondering if anyone else has had this issue?
sweet summit
probably taunt diminishing returns
strong forum
They miss if you taunt too frequently
3 times within 18sec of each other will make it so the 4th taunt gets immuned
scenic ore
Ah didnt realise that was a thing.
sweet summit
pogging for you
blazing condor
poggus champus
mighty cairn
pull big around dps cds and defensives, assign kicks, pray your dps kick
stoic thistle
yeah it sucks man, halls is so hard as a warrior
mighty cairn
20s should be pretty straightforward with the gear we have at this point in the season
but the timer can be tight if you dont pull large enough
yea it can be annoyin
boomkins pretty op
recruit some big blaster dps
sick sentinel
starting 3/4 zero for quest
ivory coral
I dont think you have to go too crazy with big pulls depending on comp, forcing yourself to pull half the key into a shard is a trap unless you have a fire mage and boomie or something
if you have ww, rogue and frost mage you can pull smaller and just have damage every pull instead of having to pull around a boomie 3 min
mighty cairn
yeah gignatic pulls arent necessary
i run with like rogue/ww usually and just double/triple puling with sustain dps is good
ivory coral
yeah for sure
mighty cairn
prot isn't a great tank to get the most out of venthyr boomie/fmage anyway
ivory coral
single pulling doesnt cut it but just doing a bunch of doubles is enough
mighty cairn
want bear for those uncapped stuff
primal cape
stoic thistle
its either i die to wicked bolts or theres not enough dps
primal cape
I usually do that on pickup
mighty cairn
yea i've done 21/22s with a similar route to that
primal cape
on 22ish i think you could bring the 1st pull to shard
ivory coral
on shard pulls you can just do the shard+obliterators first and chain in the groundskeepers later as well
if there's too many mobs people tend to get confused and stop kicking..
primal cape
This week could be tricky with inspiring and casters, i would recommand to get a monk or dh to CC
spiral warren
I got nine trinket last night
primal cape
happy for you bro, enjoy your tanking
modern brook
its either i die to wicked bolts or theres not enough dps
Play with better dps
spiral warren
Totally not a arms main and play prot randomly in keys 
primal cape
spiral warren
Our tank got it and put it up for roll as they already had it
primal cape
spiral warren
I was only one who wanted it lol
primal cape
How can i be happy with that
spiral warren
lofty widget
yikes
spiral warren
Ows is fine to run on prot yeah ?
mighty cairn
my one loot highroll of the tier was 252 nine trinket with avoidance on our first kill
ivory coral
its never fine
mighty cairn
then never saw a shield for months
primal cape
Ows is fine to run on prot yeah ?
bro trolling ๐ญ
spiral warren
๐
jagged pier
iqd is kinda bad for damage
primal cape
id like to quit hakkar shard
but i dont get drops ๐โโ๏ธ
maybe ill be lucky with the 239 week quest
spiral warren
Im praying the box gives me shoulders finally
