protection

[sick sentinel]

im not getting that much hitted :/

tho

[craggy pilot]

The BW timers and interrupt timers are also insanely close to the mid

[sick sentinel]

that run was but in general i dont thing, and GTFO rings

xD

[craggy pilot]

How big is your monitor?

[sick sentinel]

yeah guys so you see its really not that hard of a game, you just have to know what your doing

24' curved aotc 144hz

something like that

i dont remember per se

so not that big

i have to clean up my ui more

but if i dont have it right in middle i forget to use stuff its crazy how bad

imagine thats that pitch your given and you see some Ui like that on your buddies laptop

ur guna run like hell

[strong forum]

laptop uis hurt me

physically

[sick sentinel]

@sick sentinel

disc priest abilities

in middle

of nowhere

ahahahah

this video man ahahah

gapezila

so u guys advice me to go smaller on my icons

[strong forum]

personal preference my man

my UI got smaller and smaller over the years

cuz i got better

[sick sentinel]

mine got bigger

|:

[strong forum]

lul

[sick sentinel]

thats stressfull

i feel like despite even big bigger

im not watching thtat much

abilities i am

but my screen feels big tho

idk ahaha

im still mindblow by i ahve to take frontals

i will scale down more 😄

[craggy pilot]

?

[strong forum]

that was my BFA UI

[craggy pilot]

Very much depends on the frontsl

[strong forum]

buttons are HUGE

compared to now

this is my current UI

[craggy pilot]

Also @sick sentinel your IP bar is basically useless, and the SB bar is kinda big

[strong forum]

*on fury

[craggy pilot]

And those buttons you have in the middle of the screen are insanely big

If you really need those buttons, I would move them down, and move the party frames to the left hand side

You don't need to see party HP when you're not the healer

Or at least not that centealized

[sick sentinel]

I remember I tried to make a wa that was either 4 shields onto that would animate into quadrants

[sick sentinel]

moving down i cant, scale down it was down so i can

if i have move down im not looking at my char 😦

and i feel like missing cds

not mssing

but not like popping it as soon as i have it

[sick sentinel]

ip was to see

when its up

And I tried putting them as separate shield icons, I tried a cool down watcher for my sb bar and icon

[craggy pilot]

You dont need to see that

[sick sentinel]

i got used to it, i was a healer

at raid

i use it on the said

*side

[sick sentinel]

so im not overcapping it

Now I trying honkler noise if I have more than 40 rage no sb I'm combat

i mean now i have sound

so i dont kinda need to see

[craggy pilot]

So seems like you don't want to change your UI at all 😅

But whatever you can make work i guess 😉

[sick sentinel]

#protection message

I bet you could science what the best possible wow ui would be

ur uis look so clean tho

[craggy pilot]

Just look naowh or something

[sick sentinel]

i do but how u do say i dont need to keep tracks of ip ? xD

Like 3xact shape color and placements and timings

[strong forum]

yeah you dont need to track IP duration

[craggy pilot]

He is not talking about frontals, he is talking about melee attack

[strong forum]

only size, at best

[sick sentinel]

yes i word it badly

[craggy pilot]

Ah ok

[sick sentinel]

HAHAHAHAHA im not going to take frontals

that would funny

ahahaha

oh a frontal let me eat it

[craggy pilot]

Frontal you should dodge , like the fence thing from SD

[sick sentinel]

ahahahaha

well im going for mists 17

[craggy pilot]

Forgot it's name

[sick sentinel]

will come back i will stream

i got waht u mean

[craggy pilot]

There is frontal in mist as well 😉

[strong forum]

the dmg to beat in mists is 8.2k

[sick sentinel]

the tree one

Flasks of power were like I dunno 300 gold back up to 500g now

[craggy pilot]

😅

[sick sentinel]

what u mean to beat? ahahahahaha

as dps sure

😄

[strong forum]

na as tank

[craggy pilot]

As prot dps

[sick sentinel]

From last week slight nuisance

hmmm

[strong forum]

need some motivation

[sick sentinel]

seismic?

xD

[strong forum]

ya i played seismic

[sick sentinel]

ahh

[craggy pilot]

Let him just time his first 17 man 😅

[sick sentinel]

yeh i play revenge

2nd 😮

not frist hahaha

ahahahaha

😂

[craggy pilot]

Ah 2nd 😅

[strong forum]

well it was my first 2nd 17 aswell!

[sick sentinel]

ahahahahaha

[strong forum]

|| this season ||

[sick sentinel]

[strong forum]

nvm

it was 6th

[sick sentinel]

ohhh

guys u can look at mine right

help me out on trinkets

wise

[craggy pilot]

Caught him lying 😅

[strong forum]

matrix + phial

id say

but if you wanna play it safer you can also play OWS

ah nvm

ows is 220

[sick sentinel]

If I get pulsating stone 249 crit vers shit gear again I'm gunna be mighty passed off and break

[craggy pilot]

How do u see his trinkets?

He live or something?

[strong forum]

stream

ya

[craggy pilot]

Ahh 😅

I just remember some of the trinkets he got

[sick sentinel]

I am not stream friendly I'd get banned in a year

[craggy pilot]

Matrix aegis probably good combo for high def value if you struggle to surv

[sick sentinel]

2 mages 1 ele

😄

I'd say or do something get banned somehowand not an actor or story teller

fun

twitch.tv/vahr1 if u want

to hit me with a stick with some bad moves

i will say im not doing for views just for the fun of it

so see ya in abit

Do you guys feel like sense of guilt when you can't time a key

[strong forum]

no, i just get mad

[sick sentinel]

same

mists i like it

but i hope i dont fuck up

last part

after 2nd boss

and 2nd boss

i cant enver tank it right

xD

[strong forum]

but i also get mad when i dont do as much dmg as i hoped for

[sick sentinel]

so 8.2? ez clap

[dusky canopy]

So close yet so far.. 7.7k mots but had a wipe

[sick sentinel]

I get mad that I'm dying, then I feel like idiot

0 shield block and more revenge

[strong forum]

idk i wasnt happy bout that 8.2k ngl

kinda expected more

need some more practice

[dusky canopy]

Nom your ui is goat

Handmade?

[strong forum]

i took Fragnance BFA ui as a base

but all the WA stuff is selfmade ye

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-yes-approve-approval-i-approve-gif-6191609

[strong forum]

https://wago.io/p/Nomeratur

if you care

[dusky canopy]

Thanks for sharing!

[strong forum]

mh i should update a one of those

[craggy pilot]

wtf is that "achoo" WA he has 🤣

i turned on my PC just to watch this Mists

[strong forum]

i think thats when his SB drops off

ya

when his SB drops off

[craggy pilot]

ah good spot

charge+intervene is not on CD alot 🤔

@strong forum what would you say is better to track why you fucked up? video like this @indigo hawk or something else, or doing logs?

[strong forum]

with vods its much easier to tell than logs

for basic stuff

cuz you can just rewatch, and see how you handled situation X

and see what you couldve done differently

[craggy pilot]

on my alt i heal fx, on a vod i wont be able to see why tank died or so right?

only through logs

[strong forum]

ye

for others people stuff, its easier through logs

[craggy pilot]

so log shows what everyone is doing, while video only shows what i did

kinda thing

[strong forum]

for your own stuff vods make it a bit simpler

[craggy pilot]

ye and logs have the % blocked hits and such

lol wtf the % on his HP bar

is the inverted dungeon % 🤣

wtf is that useful for

[high folio]

iqd or opc for prot?

[strong forum]

opc

iqd is trash

[high folio]

what if the iqd is 252 and opc 246

[strong forum]

still opc

[high folio]

kk ty

and assuming phial pumps for prot as well

[strong forum]

ya

[high folio]

as my #2 trink

dope, thanks bro

[sick sentinel]

here i am

still alot to learn

was smooth tho

[craggy pilot]

0 deaths?

[sick sentinel]

i think so not sure

yep 0 deaths

[craggy pilot]

0 deaths still not timed
damn that sucks man

only tuned in after 1st boss, so not sure

[sick sentinel]

well i could had go faster and furious

[strong forum]

none of the dps were even above 8k

so theres that aswell

[sick sentinel]

true

[craggy pilot]

ye they weere lacking on ST

[sick sentinel]

we had aoe

[craggy pilot]

the last boss was alive for a LONG time on Fort

[sick sentinel]

but then i didnt use it right

so was a combination

[craggy pilot]

i saw a lot of times your Intervene+Charge+Leap was off CD

and u dont use it

[sick sentinel]

im learning and i aprpecaite the advice, acutally i dont feel worst after scalling down things

thats a new

yes i dint but the mobs follow

[craggy pilot]

and you are not lining up your Avatar with Ravager+

[strong forum]

no clue if you should

cuz avatar is 45sec CD

AA is what

[craggy pilot]

1.30

[strong forum]

75ish?

with conduit

[craggy pilot]

ye but at least avatar+Ravager always

[sick sentinel]

im not sure if i keep nf or kyrian , i never know 😄 but im feeling nice about what idid

ravager i hold a bit to much tho

nomeratur is right

im using others frist then i use it as last

[strong forum]

you should have around 25-28 uses in this mists of ravager

[sick sentinel]

kinda

[craggy pilot]

and on all the bosses, there is cast time, where you can simply walk away, and Charge

[strong forum]

if you have less than that, you held too much

[sick sentinel]

27 i think if i mseeing it right

[strong forum]

actually more like 30

cuz 45sec cd

[strong forum]

but 27 is fineish

[sick sentinel]

is the hits ?

[high folio]

i can usually get 2 ish avatars off between each AA

[strong forum]

casts

thats not overall

[sick sentinel]

casts should be

it wasnt

actually 32

[strong forum]

in my 23min run

[sick sentinel]

xD

[strong forum]

i had 25 uses of Ravager

[sick sentinel]

i use it on cd but well

i prioritze

SS

[strong forum]

so, 32 is aight

[sick sentinel]

i guess

u were suprised by matrix tho ahahaha

[craggy pilot]

he did 31 minu run tho

[strong forum]

hah

but my ravager hit 401 times

[sick sentinel]

true

[strong forum]

yours only 471, for 7 more uses

[sick sentinel]

longer dungeoun and more casts

[strong forum]

aslong as its around 1.1-1 ravager used per minute its fineish

[craggy pilot]

for using Reprisal, the "achoo" WA went off an awful lot of times

[sick sentinel]

46sec overtime is sad

tho

[craggy pilot]

ye seemed like a smooth run

[strong forum]

happens

[sick sentinel]

was the ST D:

[craggy pilot]

probably not just that

[sick sentinel]

if it was a tyranical rip

by alot

[sick sentinel]

ofc

nomeratur has such right

with the combo

last section

[craggy pilot]

but also RDruid doing 600dps overall

[strong forum]

legit lost a few minutes just by not double/tripe pulling

[sick sentinel]

i could just pull

basically 2 packs each

and i went one by one

[craggy pilot]

ye the start pull

you pull split

[sick sentinel]

elemental is crazy

[craggy pilot]

in a fairly easy week

[sick sentinel]

still but hurt about last week

xDD

but even tho last week was doing crazy pulls

0 deaths for a pug group thats a new one tho, was so close mages to die

[craggy pilot]

also i think you spent a long time pulling the 3rd orb before 1st boss

[sick sentinel]

will check now

well that one in my defense

i tho we were going for the boss

i didnt know ele, or at least never used my brain to think aabout that

its always been hunters

[craggy pilot]

the guy should start pulling that orb while the Drust things are about to die

so you dont waste 30-40 seconds just sitting

[sick sentinel]

hmm

true

about my addon of fullscreen on the maze

can i scale it down?

*wa not addon

[craggy pilot]

but ye every time its a ST fight, orbs, bosses, etc, the 3 people are sitting around 4-5k dps

[strong forum]

WAs you can always scale down

but ive never seen that WA

[sick sentinel]

its crazy

one

such a good one

[strong cypress]

My prot warrior is is necrolords how good there their Lego for tanking

[sick sentinel]

ahaha

i think they really had low ST

is not hating

i mean they had some gear

[craggy pilot]

i think quite good for raid

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/28#class=Warrior&spec=Protection&covenant=4

[sick sentinel]

so i need to rewatch my run and learn with ur comments too

[sick sentinel]

thats crzy 😮

[strong forum]

eh

for max dmg as necro, yes

its your best option

[sick sentinel]

everyone using sack of terror

and me here never did tozavesh xD

[strong forum]

ya sack owns

[craggy pilot]

https://raid.subcreation.net/protection-warrior.html
165 people Nerco, 99of them use the leggo

[sick sentinel]

and in m+? can it own it?

[strong forum]

if you dont play the leggo as necro in raid, you might aswell not play necro at all

[craggy pilot]

well ye tru 😄

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/yakG6Hk.png

ya

also pretty strong

but matrix is better in m+

cuz sack doesnt do as much on aoe, and it doesnt have strength

[craggy pilot]

damn i want a Matrix :<

[sick sentinel]

ohh hope u get in a great vault

i want a 239chest/head for more shards over a 252 item xD

sooo what u saying bout debuff on my party

explain

[craggy pilot]

mostly i want a 252 2h for my Arms offspec

[sick sentinel]

like bigger ones?

like bursting one

right there

[craggy pilot]

who you asking?

[sick sentinel]

was u or him that said that, both ahahah

i dont mind

for that wa party frames?

[craggy pilot]

said what? im confused what youre asking specifically

[sick sentinel]

let me link

[sick sentinel]

AAHHAHAHAHAHA its tellmewhen xDD its awesome isnt it?

[sick sentinel]

thanks

[craggy pilot]

dont like the achoo sound, but if youre practicing uptime of SB then i guess it makes sense

what does the guy sucking in air mean then?

or gasping or whatever

feels like a lot of sound cues

[sick sentinel]

i didnt used nothing just visual and i was liek let me find a sound for it

sucking air is ignore pain

gasp

i just added them today

will show really quick

[craggy pilot]

ah

i have a tracker for IP, but i really never look at it

[sick sentinel]

can u check now

if u still on pc?

xD

[craggy pilot]

only for very specific tank nukes

wdym check now?

[sick sentinel]

go stream i show u the sounds 😄

i have the execute one

too

i had 3 sounsd today

[craggy pilot]

well i get it

but i wouldnt put a sound on something that happens literally every 5 seconds

i made sound for one thing in M+, which is when people put down spear/binding shot/vortex

so i know i can kite

it just says "bam" or some shit

use the "Voice: idiot" maybe 🤣

[sick sentinel]

ahahahhahaha

idiot is good

[craggy pilot]

get something subtle maybe like the "Batman" thing

what was it, Batman Beep, or something

and i would remove the one from IP

[sick sentinel]

batman punch

i think

i can show again

i can hide the ip and still ahve the sound clue

[craggy pilot]

i mean showing it is better than the sound cue

seeing it being up is more useful than hearing that it fell off

however both are low prio

if that makes sense 😄

[sick sentinel]

its funny at same time haahaha

acho

just added today and will see if it helps

if it doenst i remove it

the wicked laugh is so creepy ahah

@strong forum thoughs of overlapping vs stacking, i switched as u said now i need to look up for it, so i can target easily?

[craggy pilot]

overlapping what?

[sick sentinel]

he said to switching my frames from overlapping to stacking or the opposite cant remember now

[craggy pilot]

ah no clue about that, remember i switched because of Explosives, but cant remember to which

[mellow bridge]

Overlapping sucks

[craggy pilot]

yea stacking makes it easier to see castbars etc

[sick sentinel]

hmm i have to test it out now sxD

[craggy pilot]

overlapping

stacking

[sick sentinel]

stacking is a bit all over the placei guess upwards u can see

[craggy pilot]

my in fight UI if you wanted some inspiration

i have abilities in middle to track like you, but only 2, as these are my main focus to use more in M+

[sick sentinel]

only 2 😅

what brain power u have

so im heading bed sleep well

[craggy pilot]

well all my other abilities i have below, and i dont really forget about those 🙂 mainly trying to up my Shield Wall and Aegis usage in dungeons currently

[oblique garnet]

Id personally track sb uptime and recharge in the middle

I guess it works out tracking via bar but thats just unnecessary imo

[modern brook]

i like your BIG CLAP

[copper lion]

/

[high folio]

its a heroic parse but ayeeeeeee

[pulsar granite]

I'd love to know why someone thought of me

[modern brook]

Wouldn't we all :(

[candid pasture]

Im a buffoon

How do we absolutely ridiculously maximize our dps, in rotation?

I have come to realize I absolutely do not know my rotation-- at all

[jagged pier]

like no meme u just press buttons

[wicked vault]

I

[wicked vault]

can anyone explain what shield value means in this patch?

shield block value

[jagged pier]

The block on a shield is basically how much damage is going to be reduced by blocking a hit so more block the higher the damage is reduced

[wicked vault]

Doesn't it shield block always block 30% of damage? How does shield block value and the 30% come into play together though?

[urban portal]

im fairly sure theres a block rating

and thats how much you block

like for example

you would block 26.81% of the damage taken

wait i fucked up

im thinking about classic lol

[urban portal]

according to wowhead the 30% is outdated

[wicked vault]

oh ok. yea, it was a bit confusing

[urban portal]

i dont blame you

wow is the WORST game to find info for

especially because how complicated it is

[ionic fern]

BlockDR=BlockAmount/(BlockAmount+K)

K is a changing variable depending on the content you're doing.

[ionic fern]

Luckily the tank TC community is sharing most of the information that's been found out.

[blazing condor]

Thunder clap community

[ionic fern]

[blazing condor]

which invis do you want on your belt if you choose to have one

?

or does it not matter

[strong forum]

Make the spacing between nameplates smaller

[strong forum]

There's only 1 belt invis

[blazing condor]

i have the cata one

but i think a friend of mine has a different one

🤷‍♂️

[strong forum]

SL

Cuz it's only 2min CD

[blazing condor]

yeah my cata one is 10 mins lmao

guess i gotta go fix that

[sick sentinel]

i don't think i want to try to time 3 more dungeons from my 12 and then try to find a group willing to complete/time 15 😦 imma just run choreghast and take it easy next week.

i'm discouraged now druid left on first 3 pulls instantly after i died...... can't wait for 9.1.5 for complete vs time option

[twin cargo]

complete vs time option?

new dungeonfinder option?

[craggy pilot]

would you do this pull first this week on a +19?

[sick sentinel]

yeah, supposedly thats one of the things coming to 9.1.5 autocomplete listing by key in bags, and set group intentions of key to complete or time

and , i guess in retrospect i shoulda saw it coming and kicked him when he said "i need this for KSM"

was going to have a 252, in vault, but now i'd have to +3 this 12 or +2 and then +1 and have to +1 again on a 15 (ksm prog, why not? )

[craggy pilot]

can someone please send that "how to log" copy pasta again?

@jagged pier ?

[jagged pier]

How do i log ?
So, if you have been here for a while, you may have noticed that whenever somebody ask for advice we ask them for a log, and if you’re new you might have no idea what that means or how to get one so :

🔸 First, download Loggerhead (https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/loggerhead) or ERT (https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/exorsus-raid-tools)

Once you have one of these any time you enter a zone where you might want a log (ie dungeon/raid/torghast) these addons will automatically start logging (in the case of ERT you have to activate automated logging in the options).
Alternatively if you don’t want to install an addon for it, whenever you are going to do an activity you want to log type /combatlog in chat to start logging said activity.
Remember to activate advanced logging in the options (System -> Network -> Advanced Combat Logging)
All these options will store your logs in your wow file inside the retail folder and the log file.

🔸 Second, go here (https://www.warcraftlogs.com/client/download) download the client. Select the live section of the client, select the upload a log button and select the fight you’re interested in putting up as a log and boom you’re done.

🔸 Third, once you’ve done all this, your log is uploaded you can put it up here and we can look at it together to see if you’re doing something wrong.

If you wish look at your own log Jakey made a nice little video explaining what we look at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tRp8lULT8

[blazing condor]

The pink pull? Yes

the red? No 😛

[craggy pilot]

ye the pink

i just did in a +19 and got obliterated by back to back Wicked Bolt

i uses Aegis + Scale + Shield Wall

too low dps i guess? 🤔 or not enough interrupts

which mob should the DPS focus? the shard? or just focus the casters down first?

@jagged pier thx ❤️ gonna try and do a +15 mists now to see if it works 😄

[blazing condor]

i mean shard should die but bolts should be dealt with

usually you got all CDs and bloodlust for that pull so they shouldnt take too long to burn

[craggy pilot]

@jagged pier if its saying like this

[blazing condor]

if youre not in a coordinated group its probably worth to just melt the casters

[craggy pilot]

should my app look like this?

[jagged pier]

i think so

[blazing condor]

what is it that makes your combatlog log automatically?

whenever i log i just hit go and it works with no need to write anything in game

a friend of mine can't do that

[strong forum]

addons

Mrt, raiderio, autologger

[blazing condor]

yeah i figured that but we have the same ones in that regard

but maybe something else thats doing stuff

thank

[strong forum]

well you need to enable it

on Mrt, it doesnt automatically do that

same as autologger

need to enable it first

[sick sentinel]

will look it up

[craggy pilot]

wtf

it didnt log 😦

@jagged pier do you use loggerhead?

[jagged pier]

nope

[craggy pilot]

hmm think i found the log

but when i upload i get an error

[sweet summit]

settings -> network -> advanced combat logging

enable that

[jagged pier]

u didnt read the copy pasta

need to enable advanced combat logging

[craggy pilot]

ye fk

missed that part

did everything else 😦

had a fucking 7.5k dps +15 mists 😦

just to try out logging

and it broke :(((

oh well at least it should work now

[sweet summit]

remember to delete the old file too

[craggy pilot]

done thx

[sick sentinel]

i was starting to do logs, but i mostly run dungeons, so its not very useful for me to have a 30-45 minute log

when i'm already recording, i guess, cuz i can just go to the footage and slow it down and see what i or others were doing wrong

so, i don't do logs any more

[strong forum]

Logs are easily seperated even in dungeons

But yeah, is a little tryhard if you're just playing tbh

[sick sentinel]

is a log better than a video of a m+? i'd guess that video would be better

cuz then you can SEE everything

[strong forum]

Video for your own stuff, in terms of what you did wrong in situation X and what you could've done differently, yes

In terms of overall performance of your class, logs are better

[sick sentinel]

"okay i died, go to part where i died and figure out why i died, try to prevent it next time"

[strong forum]

Ya that's where vid is simpler

[craggy pilot]

could i potentially log a target dummy fight?

ah wow the target dummy fight worked

but my +15 Halls didnt work 😦

[blazing condor]

is it still so that you can mess up the combatlog if you /reload or do something similar

[sick sentinel]

didnt time a dos 16 for 4 sec

😦

what with the single target of ppl this week

[sweet summit]

no idea. just get ert and enable auto logging. less think=more good

[devout heron]

is ToP doable
without necrolord?
m21

[sweet summit]

ye it is

but

the big guys might bug out

so plan around that

[devout heron]

ye ye

[sick sentinel]

wait what

AHAHHAHAa

so funny the frist one

xDD

[devout heron]

well priest didnt dispell and did 6k hps in portal guardian+tormenter pull, so key is gone anyways... dont get priest healers kappa

[sick sentinel]

i keep a priest rdy always, and idk about that. priests been really great this week

what about torghast? do you guys do torghast as arms/fury or with a group?

or whats the best way to handle torghast at IL 234

[plush tendon]

Torghast as Prot in a group

[sick sentinel]

treat it like a regular dungeon more or less?

like say, m0 difficulty

[plush tendon]

You can also Torghast as Arms or Fury (both are good), but if you want EZ adamant, group is significantly easier and tanks are really helpful for the group

[plush tendon]

you start slow, then as the powers start coming, you can turn on the gas

There can be some dangerous mobs, so be aware of those

But if you are in a group with a Demo lock and they get their right powers, they obliterate everything in their path; they just need someone to group the mobs up 🙂

[sick sentinel]

positive i'm doing this wrong as well, but thats the ones i took so far

[plush tendon]

missing adament vault trait, but otherwise it dont matter

just make sure you are a in group so you can get in there and get conduit upgrades 🙂

especially if not level 6 Archivest rep

[sick sentinel]

really need 400 points to upgrade the blessing and torment ones

[obtuse monolith]

I don’t trust groups for getting to 200 score. Easy layer 9 as prot gets you in

[plush tendon]

I mean, you can hard carry a group

its just a lot more lenient for groups

granted, we just do it as guildies so its 'fun'

[obtuse monolith]

O yeah w guildies it’d be alright. Especially the ones who have harder times solo like casters

[hollow sun]

cries in rogue

[plush tendon]

stick a lock or mage in a group so they dont have to kite and they suddenly become gods

(they still are, but we all know they just want to turret)

[obtuse monolith]

I had no idea until taking alts in Torghast how much it sucks for some classes/specs. Tanks feel like they’re made for it. Or arms w good gear.

[sick sentinel]

guys how to know what server to switch to? im at doomhammer, i guess it depends

but still

[plush tendon]

why are you looking to switch?

[blazing condor]

depends on what you wanna do

[sick sentinel]

m+ pushing myself, but if i can also do some raiding sure, but m+ at least i dont need to do at tht certain time

[blazing condor]

yeah m+ server dont matter

i mean the higher pop server the cheaper AH prices and the more guilds etc

[sick sentinel]

its cuz more of a guild

[plush tendon]

I mean, for M+ pushing you dont need to be on a different server. However, there is a distinct advantage for those who Mythic raid or who are part of a guild who Mythic raids when looking for people to do keys with

[sick sentinel]

thats what i mean

how i look for the "right" server?

[blazing condor]

whats your nationality?

granted thats something important for you

[sick sentinel]

it isnt

i can go for learn a language ,like i go for hyjal

french in that case

[blazing condor]

🤷‍♂️

hard to tell

you EU?

[sick sentinel]

yep

[distant crystal]

prob better off looking for guilds on a variety of servers then xferring to the one you like

[sick sentinel]

true

maybe keep pugging keys and see

if it just happens

[blazing condor]

there are also m+ communities if you want

but communities are kind of neglected content

so idk how they are now

[modern brook]

You save your money until after you find a guild to swap to

[sick sentinel]

i went with a cloak

of oggrimar

tp

fuck me

still timed it

[sick sentinel]

ty

[modern brook]

Even then it does t matter unless you're pushing for top 100 alliance ce

Or top 9000 horde

[sick sentinel]

9000 horde ahaha

well suppose i have to do this 12 now, cuz its only a 236 from vault 3rd option, bunch of my stuff is 239

[craggy pilot]

wtf my logs wont work :(((

nothing getting logged with LoggerHead

[sweet summit]

check settings? is it enabled to auto log dungeons? or just raids?

[craggy pilot]

i click on it when i start a dung

it says "logging to folder"

and then in the end i check the folder, and the file is 0kb

[sweet summit]

and you're sure you are looking in the right folder?

[craggy pilot]

ye

i look in the folder, and theres no file, i click the addon, and it makes a file

when i just hit a target dummy it works

but when in M+ it doesnt work

[blazing condor]

just gotta count for yourself then

acoustic log

[craggy pilot]

feels like its maybe stopping the logging when the M+ starts

[sweet summit]

i don't know how loggerhead works as i've never used it so i can't really help on that end

[blazing condor]

loggerhead?

[sweet summit]

yeah

[blazing condor]

was dat,

[sweet summit]

addon to auto log for you

[blazing condor]

o

[craggy pilot]

but tbh i dont need addon right?

i just go in M+, type /combatlog

and it should work?

[sweet summit]

you don't need it, and yes that works

i use ert. very simple click and forget type of thing

[blazing condor]

you will always need warcraft logs to upload right?

yeah scratch that

[sweet summit]

you need warcraftlogs uploader or the client to upload ye

[craggy pilot]

ye i have that

[blazing condor]

cant have shit parses if you only surround yourself with people who dont log

[strong forum]

did you guys turn on advanced combat logging

[craggy pilot]

thought i needed the addon to write out the log

but seems wow does it auto

[distant crystal]

just use worldoflogs

[craggy pilot]

ye i did Nome

[distant crystal]

ez r1 parses

[sweet summit]

is that some boomer warcraftlogs thing

i think i've heard of it

is it even still around

[distant crystal]

it was the shit in wotlk

lol

[strong forum]

erga was 9 when wotlk was a thing

👶

imagine

[sweet summit]

[blazing condor]

young gang

😎

born 99 - just like my parses

[sweet summit]

old man

[distant crystal]

graduated high school 99

[strong forum]

Boomeratur strikes again

okay Waat is outbooming everybody

[distant crystal]

can't use external emojis

smh

my :wojakboomer:

[strong forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/641701284776509481.png?size=96

[sweet summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/855409230499282955.png?v=1

[strong forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/641701267319554083.png?size=96

[shut summit]

👴

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/zoomer-wojak-floss-flossing-fortnite-gif-13805257

[worthy karma]

May I please have some tips for doing 20s? I do 19s with 0 issue but when I jump into a 20 I feel like I just get dumpstered by casts or some magical dmg.

[plush tendon]

would need some logs to figure out how to help TBH

[craggy pilot]

ok got the log working

but only after i fucking had to cancel logging and reenable it mid pull 🤣

and holy shit did it make my +15 lag 😮

is that normal?

[craggy pilot]

or maybe i just have potato pc

[jagged pier]

if u havent got a good hardrive yer

[craggy pilot]

i have SSD 🤔

[sick sentinel]

hard for me to tell, but apparently 3k in +12 and this is what damage looks like

[sweet summit]

ngl i've never noticed it

it is not normal

[craggy pilot]

maybe live logging is bad tho, eats up my internet

so i guess i should just log, and then upload in the end

[sick sentinel]

probably not enough recvenge now

[craggy pilot]

but seems if i do /combatlog before M+ has started, it wont work

i did that, and it didnt record first few pulls

so i disabled, and enabled again mid pull

and it worked

[distant crystal]

i would highly recommend letting an addon manage your log enable/disable

autocombatlogger, loggerhead, apparently ERT/MRT now too

[craggy pilot]

i have loggerhead

but it doesnt rly do anything

it doesnt pop up for me

[distant crystal]

it...turns logs on and off lol

go to the settings, configure what you want logged

[blazing condor]

Really isnt a big difference at all - log a run and we can look at it. Unless its all mental and you choke it should be no difference

if you do 19s with no issue then you should do 20s with no issues

[sick sentinel]

only death we had on that 12 to my knowledge was something on the ice mini hit me for 22k

[craggy pilot]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DW83w1jbHtfXxcLp

the log looks weird as fk

[sweet summit]

that's usually what happens when you start/stop logging like mid dungeon lol

[sick sentinel]

yeah, a bunch of cold snaps

the only death in the run

[blazing condor]

gotta keep movin

[craggy pilot]

100k cold snap dmg 😄

ouch

[blazing condor]

in 2 secs

[craggy pilot]

pop a health pot

[sick sentinel]

its only a 5200rpm, but i now have a 4tb hdd

so i can and will record as much as i can and post some of the better ones to YT for review

421 gigs of raw unedited footag atm

[craggy pilot]

my PC is completely fucked by me doing combat logging

even when i dont live log

[blazing condor]

youre either doing something incredibly wrong or have a real pepega computer

[craggy pilot]

🤔

no clue what i should be doing wrong

and dont feel like my PC is pepega ..

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wZWgYpDCdtyvfTmh/

and again my log came out like this

[sick sentinel]

well, i can view the logs

[craggy pilot]

probably my internet though

im using Wifi connection

never had issues with streaming on Discord though

[blazing condor]

guild just said fuck it and is stopping prog

[strong forum]

Damb

[blazing condor]

spare guild

spare guild m'am

[strong forum]

Pulled a me

[blazing condor]

a-at least i have good logs so it must be easy to get recruited

[sick sentinel]

this is what i got done so far

still gotta do torghast

[urban portal]

probably wanna try and do that 15 lol

[sick sentinel]

i tried, it didn't go very well,

[urban portal]

could apply to someone elses

[sick sentinel]

i decided to try to make it a point to only run my key and not ruin other peoples keys by playing badly

and then, if its my key, forced to learn whatever dungeon it is,

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-FV4iKHwaM

wasn't intentional that it's spires again, and i was trying out some macros to try to get more shield slams, like after i did thunder clap or revenge, i don' think it worked very well, damage was low (didn't turn on that meter till half way done)

so, i got bar 2 with normal un-macro'd abilities if thats too muc hinder (horn is in combat, over 40 rage and no SB)

[modern brook]

im like 4 minutes in

1. why is your chat like half your screen

2. what macro

3. you need to put your sb uptime in a spot near your cahracter

no reason to have was if you're gunna still be staring at your bars

[sick sentinel]

it sounds dumb, and i'm positive it is, but i was messing with idea of using macros that castsequence rev/tc>sb

[jagged pier]

no

dont

bad

[sick sentinel]

works fine for ss>SB

[jagged pier]

no

bad

[modern brook]

honestly just press the buttons yogi

thers 6 of them

and u have a keyboard

[jagged pier]

u DO NOT MACRO SB WITH ANYTHING

[sick sentinel]

well, that was only for that dungeon. i've just gotta figure out what i'm binding wrong or why i'm not pressing enough of X

[plush tendon]

[jagged pier]

u dont casts sequence anything tbh as we have to make choices on what we want to use our rage on

[sick sentinel]

i honestly think its one of my Q E binds or an ability on them that screws it all up

idea for those is to be something you hit all the time

[jagged pier]

and thats bad

thats not how the spec works

[sick sentinel]

i wonder if its just bindings or not looking at screen, or some other bigger issue. tbh the chat box is large due to pugs and messages getting lost in <death circle on me in 5> x 5 times.

[jagged pier]

i mean in the first pull

u arent facing half the mobs most of the time

and u throw spear on 1 mob instead of waiting for them to stack up first?

[cinder nova]

Galactic oof

[near pewter]

Does shard of Zed give you the "Drained Hp"

[sick sentinel]

i'm curious about how you guys do things in a way that i can directly compare with.

[blazing condor]

i could try and record a dungeon run for you if you'd wanna compare in that way

otherwise its just logs

[modern brook]

jakey and plka also have recorded runs on their youtube/twitches

as does nom and most yellows that hang out here

[sick sentinel]

i think i feel like what hurts my dps alot, is running out at stupid times that don't make sense to try to make charge or get out of some AOE

and like, get way too far from aoe, or too far to melee thing.

[jagged pier]

yer me, nome plka all have runs

sense has them

and hes like god

[blazing condor]

[modern brook]

sense is og

[blazing condor]

original god

[jagged pier]

[sick sentinel]

i just wonder if im getting any better or regressing since i started in BFA

[jagged pier]

i wonder is nome uploaded the 4 prot warrior run

🤔

[urban portal]

lol thunderclap

remember when thats a real ability

[modern brook]

he def did

[jagged pier]

yer he did

XD

[ionic fern]

You got a heavy case of "SPAM E".

[modern brook]

lmoa wrong cp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaE-pknlcjw

[sick sentinel]

what is a good button to go on E instead then and a proper button for IP

i can't stand that shft ctrl crap

[ionic fern]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ShyFrailHabaneroDancingBaby-IN_2wmXB7cxswt0V
Naa, this is better @modern brook .

[urban portal]

i think he means that, you shouldnt be pressing ignore pain so much

[ionic fern]

^

You are sitting on SB charges (2 even at times) for prolonged durations due to spamming Ignore Pain which leaves no rage for SB.

[sick sentinel]

i think its too close to movement keys and i end up fat fingering it

[modern brook]

tfw i cant go to the weekly 15 :(\

[blazing condor]

you and me both brother

we're just low life trash

[ionic fern]

Watch your pull at 8:28

[modern brook]

😦

[blazing condor]

maybe one day

[modern brook]

[sick sentinel]

i want to rebind IP to something else now, but i can't think of something you'd but on there

[ionic fern]

Notice your IP usage and SB charges.

You are doing that multiple times.

[sick sentinel]

im fairly positive this is due to fat fingering

[blazing condor]

time to hit the cardio

[ionic fern]

Be as it is - if you are looking to improve you have to fix it.

Can't help you much with keybinds as they are more of a personal preference.

I got IP on ctrl+f for example.

[sick sentinel]

yeah, and i get the smaller button size so you don't destroy your hand as well

i just hate dual input requirement for activation

[ionic fern]

Maybe C or 9?

Instead of Hamstring. 🤷

[blazing condor]

hamstring is a bit

[ionic fern]

Ngl, i don't have hamstring even on my bars.

[blazing condor]

☝️

[sick sentinel]

i had it on my bars cuz 50% for 15 s seems huge

when, and thats big when, its needed, can be handy

[jagged pier]

i have never been a situation where ive wanted hamstring

but yet to their own there are ppl that macro it into charge

[blazing condor]

honestly like

hamstring isn't bad at all

but its just redundant

there's no real need for it

[sick sentinel]

and so if i change IP to be like, 9, what do i do with E button

[blazing condor]

its your binds

[ionic fern]

Can just leave it empty.

🤷

[blazing condor]

you bind your abilities the way that works for you

there's no right or wrong way to bind really

as long as you get the job done

[modern brook]

E is for movEast

Q is for Quick move left

[jagged pier]

eh?

[sick sentinel]

i think i'll try something more like this

[jagged pier]

do your fingers reach 789?

[sick sentinel]

i mean not super well

[jagged pier]

then u should use shift or control modifers tbh

[plush tendon]

shift and alt are pretty good

[sick sentinel]

guys if i go left in the other side

what percentage

i should get on birds

when i get out of it

[plush tendon]

I use 1-5, Shift 1-5, Alt 1-5, R, F, T,G (all with Shift and Alt mods)

[sick sentinel]

mine

[blazing condor]

if you take first pack then go left, clear that then go ardenweald. You'd be looking to have around 60% when youre done. But this is to be able to skip in mechagon

if youre not skipping mechagon then it's probably like 50-55 but check in MDT

[sick sentinel]

i could maybe handle shift 1234 f1 f2 f3 f4 would be about most i'd say

ctrl alt just seem to far most times

[jagged pier]

ctrl is just under shift

i only have 1 cntl and thats shattering

[sick sentinel]

b for break shield

[jagged pier]

b is for bags

[plush tendon]

keybinds are specific for each person

gotta find what works for you

[jagged pier]

i wouldnt give anyone mine tbh

[sick sentinel]

no, all game menus are shift of ctrl + letter

[plush tendon]

find where your hand rests, and try a couple of different combos out

see what feels natural and something you can do without stretching or misclicking

[sick sentinel]

i don't ever want lfd poppin up when im in a key lol

myabe.... E for execute....

[plush tendon]

E is a pretty valuable key

[jagged pier]

yer but he binds over back peddle which is bad for tanks in pve

imo

[plush tendon]

100%

just dont unbind it

its only a -3 keybinds lost, which as a tank you probably dont need to worry about as much (generally less buttons to press anyways)

[blazing condor]

walk with mouse gang

frees up my entire left hand for how many buttons on the keyboard i want

[jagged pier]

i mean i do

but for tiny micro stuff and getting all mob infront of u backpeddle is just 👌

[blazing condor]

its true

i walk with my mouse like 99% but i have backpeddle still

its too good to not use

[safe thistle]

@sick sentinel dont use stam flask its worthless, use the stats one. get a weakaura for your mouse you seems to miss a lot of ravager/spear cause you dont find your mouse pointer fast enough on screen.

[sick sentinel]

i've got just the addon for losing mouse pointer didn't occur to get it again on re-install

problem sovled

[jagged pier]

ew

[fallow cape]

anyone know what slot i should craft leaper on? if i want to use it at painsmith

[blazing condor]

[fallow cape]

serious question

[jagged pier]

u dont

[fallow cape]

help me

what shall i do

[blazing condor]

idek what slots Leaper can go on but the answer would be what gives the most stats without sacrificing a dom slot

[fallow cape]

we have 1 pala

[jagged pier]

u cna just be the second tank

[fallow cape]

well its me and a monk

[jagged pier]

same

[fallow cape]

ive not looked into last phase properly yet but idk what he does

does he just pre-place transcendance?

[jagged pier]

he should

[fallow cape]

do both tanks have to bypass the balls in last phase

or is it just the first tank

if im being annoying tell me to fuck off and ill go watch a video

[jagged pier]

its just the first one from what i know

havent been far enough into phase 3

yer only ever first tank

[safe thistle]

i put leaper on belt

i dont use it outside transmog farm and questing/outdoor

normally with bounding stride leap is up everytime

[frozen nest]

only 1 tank has to be able to pass @fallow cape

[fallow cape]

alright the monk should be able to trans > bop > trans then if he has to do it multiple times

[frozen nest]

yep

[fallow cape]

thanks for the help

ill let him know he has to do the complicated shit while i sit on the boss

[frozen nest]

i tanked that boss with a dh

and he just flew around the balls everytime

[sick sentinel]

oh well, say what you will about the electric mouse tail, i used that in like, 8.2 and seemed to help alot with mouse trail

same issue on windows when resolution is up

[safe thistle]

@sick sentinel why not just use a simple circle on curser easier and if your pc is a toaster, less demanding

[sick sentinel]

bah, most of my addon memory usage comes from "whats your covenant" memory leak anyways

[safe thistle]

decimal count on timer

[median tulip]

Is there a definitive list anywhere of what counts as a helpful ability for the purposes of procing the Shard of Zed?

[sick sentinel]

did 55 missed 3 percent 😐

[blazing condor]

🤷‍♂️

i do 60 and its fine

but obviously you'd double check that in MDT first lol

[ebon geyser]

Is reprisal still the lego

Seen so many ardenweald Lego in logs

[blazing condor]

but sorry lol

[sick sentinel]

those dog bear things in halls, thats one example i would use hamstring, and its the only one that comes to mind

[sick sentinel]

no sorryyy

ahahahahah

as i said i did less than u said

[blazing condor]

did you skip?

because i still mightve gotten the numbers mixed up

[sick sentinel]

from what i understand you run NF lego if you are NF, and if not reprisal or other

[blazing condor]

okay im checking it rn

so if you take first pack, go left and take that platform

if you dont do any skips in the dungeon

[sick sentinel]

i think

[blazing condor]

you want 40% when you finish ardenweald

[sick sentinel]

i skipped the matriarch

so isnt ur fault

ahahahaa

D:

😄

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-sl-2/9829375-2-halls-of-attonement

[oblique garnet]

@strong forum @sweet summit Big dam

[sick sentinel]

some dude bragging about soloing +2 halls

[blazing condor]

with mechagon skips, skipping both drills and up to slimes

youre sitting at 54%

[sweet summit]

[oblique garnet]

Thats with reprisal

[sweet summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/856973963230183475/891080538172039248/unknown.png

i am almost as good as late

!

[sick sentinel]

pog

ahahahah

[strong forum]

Sad !

[strong forum]

Pümp unlocked

[sick sentinel]

are you guys going to tell me to turn my bars invisibie again and use a WA thing in the centre

i think the seems to be what you guys tried to get me to do in 8.3

[ebon geyser]

im NF

[blazing condor]

just play what feels best

i dont have WA bars

i hate them

[ebon geyser]

i was wondering since so many are doing NF lego but im like 35 ish in season and i though i was higher

[blazing condor]

because i dont get the feeling of a button being pressed

[ebon geyser]

imo WA distract you , i dont use them i only have cds

[blazing condor]

it honestly doesnt matter what people think

just play what you prefer

[ebon geyser]

i need to do so much catch up