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War/Enh/WW/Spriest/Rdruid
Boom, big dam
All buffing you wherever posisble
Don't tell deswind well see that in the next +21 doing 11k overall as prot
Now, we just need a streamer who has friends to make this happen
lets swap the Priest and Druid; balance Druid and Disc Priest. That way, you can use trees to tank for you
What does resto druid do to buff?
hey... 9.1.5 right around the corner, i think going to be drastic changes in dps meta alone
Kyrian Druid π
Is it the legendary? π€
Kyrian druid abilities is to empower a teammate with large amount of stats
So i get more mastery π€ not rly more dps in that π
Depending on covenant
Ah if NF u get haste
There's the 5head
Me likes
I'll see if I can get my guild up for this π
this is that NF paladin thing i was talking about
I wanna push 10k DPS in a +15 mist π π π
Blessing of Spring - Blesses an ally with 10% increased healing done and 20% healing received.
Blessing of Summer - Blesses an ally causing their attacks to have an additional chance to deal holy damage.
Blessing of Autumn - Blesses an ally causing their cooldowns to recover 30% faster for the duration of the buff.
Blessing of Winter - Blesses an ally causing their attacks to deal additional damage and apply a movement and attack speed stacking debuff.
starts at spring always, and goes through each season, i want to see more people running this
I have a confession.... Im a arms warrior now π¦
Pew pew dude
havnt opened prot spec except for Torghast : ^)

You'll always be a tank boy in my heart
β€οΈ I still stand in shit like im a tank
Blessing of seasons only gives DPS 3/4 of the buffs
Worse confession. My guild off this week and pugs suck so Iβm gearing myβ¦ Brew monk.
And I like it.
But Skyhold is more better
I have a confession to make:
I want to try a DH tank
My Healer decided to comment that he's getting bred healing because there's not much to do
Boy was that a mistake
im not about that demon hunter crap
booo DH boo
dh is at least top 3 fun tanks wdym
Ohh βboredβ
Iβm like heβs doing what while heβs raiding!?
Well, they are all fun
it ain't snoozemaster or noodle knight
except for bear out of incarn
or furry degen tank
I love warr, but also love to play dh or pala and feel like I can die in 2 globals
I meant dk
But dh also applies
dh is considerably more proactive than dk
BDK is you survive forever or you instantly go splat
Nothing feels as good as a warrior so far. You have a lot of buttons to push, do pretty good damage (and in a fun engaging way), the mogs look good, is all gravy. I fucked up and made the best class first and don't want to play anything 3lse.
i played side by side with a DK main on discord for like 2 years
Having played all 6 tanks around ksm level at some point in time in the last 2 years
I can say without a doubt warrior is my favorite
Ye vs warrior id say dh is very liner, dk is a clusterfuck, pala is easy but fuck holy power
DK is fine, just put down DnD and then put up bone shields, then you just deathstrike everything
Ye, also dont open with dnd or people will go wild and die
My tank friend is a bdk main and he never dies its crazy if we wipe in a trash pull he'll just solo till we get back lmao
Yeah BDk can solo insanely well
We were doing the third Kyrian golem in NW 18 the other night with the miniboss and we all got smoked by a beam and he soloed for 30 seconds while we ran back
i like it primarily for deathgrip
just to yoink him and sit him infront of your ass
it feels sooooo good
dk in appropriate content with appropriate gameplay doesn't require healing
even higher up, they're exceptionally good at kiting
Him and I meme about what tank spec is better naturally I argue warrior > bdk
prob one of the best tanks for kiting

control undead is cool too i guess
one of things i was jealous of BDK was in atal dazar you could go right and instantly MC the green goop guy is DK, and every time it would fade, you just MC him again
he goes around attacking shit for your entire dungeon
8.2 gripping zerkers or beastmasters in KR was bis
@sick sentinel and also let you finish count at the end of the last boss and avoid a reaping wave
i guess it was the same in ToP with prideful
Pogstorm
mhm
ah well, one of them is DoS sword
now i just need to figure out how to play WW
In ToP the best thing about a DK is that they can Control the captain in that patrol of 5 on the way to Xav; he then gives the party a damage buff for as long as he is MCd
So what are people's preferences for nameplates? I tend to prefer Plater but the profile I was using is no longer being updated..
using plater defaults currently
had naowh's before but did a fresh game install a couple weeks ago building up UI from scratch again
Plater is currently the Nonplusultra
naowh's was showing debuffs i don't really care about, but I think I was using an old copy of his
"Stripes" is worth a look into
But it looked kinda bad on dot classes
is that a plater profile or an addon @leaden dawn
addon
I like Andybrews profile and plkas but neither are public that I know of lol rip
@patent osprey is it available to subscribers?
@dusky canopy too
friends, what healer synergizes best with us for 20+ keys? or what classes do you roll with normally?
I have the best time with Rsham or hpal
i have been noticing some issues with the group i have been with (disc priest) and i wasnt sure if it was a lack of dps overall or healer/tank comp. seems pulls last longer than they should and im always ass clenching to stay alive
i like rdrood and holy priest
Disc, just like hpal, needs a good player to keep the group alive.
Restos, both shaman and druid have an easier time generating throughput
Oh yeah agreed completely
both it seems
Rsham is the safe pick pugging imo
Rsham but frankly "healer synergy" is fake and whoever can keep a group alive while still contributing damage is the answer
Plus they can toss ele out for you witch makes your life easier sometimes
yeah i meant purely in pug life, obv good players on any class/spec will succeed. pugging is a bit more of "what has the best chance of not failing us" imo at least
seems most of the opinions mirror what i was thinking too, so im not really out to lunch
You're asking if it's better to bet it all on red compared to black
It's a pug.
It'll suck
6 and half a dozen
was just curious what preference people opt for is all, thanks all π
For example.. If a healer with 2150 io and 60+ keys timed over 15 applies its probably a safe pick right?
No it's a pug
I wouldn't default to a healer really
Nothings safe.
Resto shaman is my favorite healer to bring but Β―_(γ)_/Β―
Agreed I have the best time with a Rsham for sure like I was saying
i dont have a preference
i would honestly just avoid meta picks
aka hpal
the chance for it to be a bad player is very high
basically, id avoid classes you need to be actually good at to produce output
Pick the que that has the most xp / highest rating thats generally the best way to pug making sure you have atleast lust
I haven't seen a single MW all season :/
just want a strong player behind the wheel
Respect.
HPS monsters in raid; but they burn mana faster then a Hummer
That sounds about right. I
Only if i have to spam heal vivify. π¦
Aka when people are mongs and stand in shit.

i had to take a LOH on first boss spires 11 watching the footage again lol
didn't occur to me that it happened
anything but monk imo
Sorry damage is relegated to good(tm) players only
Good(tm) of course being room temperature hpals
Really!? You like druid that comes as a suprise to me I have the worst times with druid lmao
Paladin is by far the worst healing
but its so much damage so you want to play with it
soon....
nope
they prolly have full phys comp
haven't seen want warrior tank since bfa s4
plka when' you joining skyhold weekly?
weekly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAjBP7QW7k still loading 1080p, but here, welcome to pepega land (aka spires 11)
honkler is in combat every 2s without SB up
Bro that horn omfg lol
rolling a blood DK after work for fun lets gooooooo
(they are very cursed run away while you still can)
it's training wheels till i stop doing 30% SB
Are you looking for tips based on this video
no, i made the video
I mean, do you want people to watch it and suggest improvement or nah
sure, i'm all for it, i can keep making videos if i get suitable footage
I usually get the whole "Wow warrior tanks are the sleeper tank, nice run dude" it's funny
I guess the first three things I see are
- Try not to turn your back on enemies, on the first pull you could strafe and not get hit in the back so much
- I see a lot of times where you hit Revenge or TC when shield slam is up, even on 1-2 targets... SS should be your priority there
- Just try and cast more, you should almost never have an empty GCD but sometimes you're just not pressing anything, try and figure out why that is
I... uh work that night sorry. Else I would love to


okay, well i got pf 12 in my bag rn usnure if im going to run it tonight, but if i do i'll try to upload it again maybe
So I noticed you have the SB and IP WeakAuras but they're off to the side and out of view, have you thought about moving them more into your immediate vision so you don't have to look down to track it?
also, that's part the idea of the honkler horn ffect, i'm being a clown if im not putting it up
(Super small thing but just figured I would ask)
Might be something small but if you are aware of witch of your eyes is the dominant one placing the more important information on that half of the screen might make you notice it more
Or like itslysis says closer to the center you can get your information with out it being in the way the better
You don't know what you're missing out on.. π¦
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some 249 druid applying to my +12, um, okay lol
Probably wants something from the key that they will boost woth valour
looks like he was after these since he was boomy, went out on limb and google "boomy bis SL" > scan for plagefall
yo thats me wtf
na it was just a trash pug
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wow, gonna let Erga show you up like that

Im not sure which covenant to select π¦ I see most of the top warriors are going with the Night fae + Night fae leggo.
Kyrian vs Night Fae, such a hard choice D:
what are you gonna do?
Mythic +, Mythic Raiding, Heroic Raiding, prollly some RBGs, and some 2s as arms
venthy or NF
NF = Kyrian
its literally just preference
Both offer their unique things that benefits you
Damage wise its the same
i would go NF for push weeks need dps, go kyrian for necrotic crap
im kyrian personally and it feels real good
does shield count for "your weapon doesn't take damage" NF thing? i guess we probably don't even take it
I see a lot of NF warriors at the top with the NF leggo
Ehh I think the spear is better for m+ if all you want is damage
i still want to try prot condemn, and it has my shield mog
nah its pretty much distributed equally
Yeah nf +nf leggo is best ST option
but the NF lego + NF is good damage
but you got kyrians at top 3 logs
so its literally whatever
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i have a perfect red transmog, all i need is the venth quest shield
venthyr prot is extremely frustrating in keys imo, fine in raid but not my preference
Im not going venthyr fuck that
with no way to cleave it and it costing rage, condemn feels absolutely terrible on aoe
i just can't see my self being flag boy
i strongly disliked necro across the board for all three specs but i would still rather be necro prot than venthyr prot
is the answer
its p much Kyrian = NF > necro > venthyr
How can they both be absolutely equal
in general i favor kyrian for prot but korayn is hard to pass
does one really not edge out the other?
nope not really
ehhh i think there is going to be major meta swings with 9.1.5 because dps can choose other covenant abilities

they really are that close and both have legitimate benefits
damage is p much the same now with mikanikos
ask the stormforged if you want more details
idrk that nerd stuff 
the knockdown from AA makes me feel safe in pugs lol
well, the counter to that is spear tether
which is even better than the knockdown for your own safety
nah its not
Spear teather is not the same
i mean, the effect
it's up twice as frequently, for one (with mikanikos)
Knockdown prevents death without making you stop pew pew
yeah but so what
Teather prevents death but you have to stop pew pew
you don't kite as much anymore, and you don't need the tether effect that much
if pvp is in the mix, kyrian is definitely better than nf
Right you use it for damage
kyrian is tied-ish for best, nf is the only "bad" covenant for pvp
Everything is in the mix unfortunately
Having the extra kite utility option is very useful as well
on multiple specs
oh well, if we are talkng about pvp then yeah, go kyrian
kyrian checks the most boxes for warrior as a whole
and anywhere where it's not #1, it's not a distant #2
RBGs, Arena, M+, Raiding,
good thing i will be able to play both in 9.1.5 
Play Fury, Arms, and Prot
Kyrian wins rbg/arena 10 - 1
kyrian arms is dope
i actually can't enjoy arms as much
Spearing every 40 seconds as prot is dope
too many cds

how fkin cringe is top this week man
2 xav bosses just dont activate
have to go back and get 2 gasbags and fly through ghost platforms again

I wonder what's causing it, because I did one this week and didn't have any of these issues, but I've been seeing a ton of folks talk about it this week
Wonder if it's a specific class or item or something that's bugging it out
just tryed a 22 sd for first time any tips for not getting slapped like fuck on the gauntlet
gauntlet there are only 2 hard pulls imo
very first pull if you go double pack
easy trick there is
charge into first pack, immediately use the shield you picked up for 60% DR
it will be rdy again
the skirmishers hit hard
after shield use your biggest defensives if skirms are alive
yeh i heard after the fact i could use the shield thing at start and on the cast
aight ill give that try next time
yeh was first one that got me tbf
you mean the big white meth crystal?
and you can stun the summon weapon cast
do those two things and last 3 pack is irrelevant too
it's easy to overlook the shield in general through the gauntlet and immediately before but you only have a handful of required uses the whole time
yeh defintely need to make use of it
was 2 min 30 over in the end should get it next time
Alright now for the hard part (9.1.5 when)
How should I configure my soulbinds?
PvP (arms) - Pelegos
M+ ???
Raiding ???
you still regen full conduit energy every day
so it's unlikely you are gonna actually need to set up your soulbinds in exclusive ways, just tweak as you go
mikanikos is the best M+ choice for arms and prot, and they can reasonably share a tree anyway since prot does not want the upper left potency
since mikanikos's trait there auto-chugs your potions
and you want to have that manual control as prot
kleia and mikanikos are both valid choices for raid for all specs, with people tending to favor mikanikos's simplicity and occasionally very useful spear cd reduction
for prot pelagos may be a little tankier but generally people just go mikanikos for the simplicity and damage as well
no healers want to run sd 13 rip lol
13 and 14 are dead keys
you need someome to get you a 15 bro
so you have a 15 every week
I'm trying to learn tanking but am having trouble with plagueborer's explosion in PF. I can leap one, intervene another if there's a nearby ranged, but what do I do for the 3rd? I am almost always slowed by something in that section and eat way to many of them.
it's the wretched phlegm that slows you, you can reflect or stun the cast so you wont get slowed
Ok, will I need others to pitch in as well or is reflect and stun enough to handle it?
you should be able to handle it yourself
great, thanks man
if youve got a poison dispell in your group have them use it in that part as well
Yeah I usually try to ask but puglife is puglife lol
I'm lucky if the healer dispels the 2nd boss debuff
does the free revenge from reprisal work with best served cold
doesnt seem like its doing more dmg
it does

bsc works off the buff "Revenge!" which you get from either parrying or from reprisal
of course i get blade kit
okay thanks
The problem with Mikanikos for Raid purposes is that his capstone trait is pretty bad at single target fights, though.
the CDR doesn't do much, but there's something else on that capstone that makes it quite good at single target
not to mention spectrometer
Soulglow Spectrometer is great, but you have the painful choice between taking the middle path half way down for Hammer of Genesis, or taking the left hand path to get the AAF Potency
Because as you noted earlier, the earliest potency is locked behind the auto-pot, which is a bad trait
The negative of auto pot is really overblown
And for raid you can just sim which soulbind does more dam
Not like you're picking them for their defensive value anyway
I got a +14 dos key in my bags now, so i'll probably try it soon, and if its successful i'll upload it
You don't even need HR
I've gotten 95% blocked hits on him with AM
While starting and thus holding him longer thanks to our timings
thats what stuns and fears are for
i prefer pelagos for prot raid
I just keep uptime as long as I can then shockwave, int shout and run out of melee during downtime

Can't really stun remnant :p
You dont need anything but your base kit for remnant but im saying if he was worried HR is a better pick its even a dps increase in ST which remnant is essentially
but have you tried
Iβm sorry whatβs HR. Iβm terrible at acronyms
Heavy repercussions
Shield slam extends existing shield block by 1s, used with charging granting sb from reprisal leggo
What should i be around for verse>Haste>mastery? roughly
Haste > vers-mast-crit
whatever your highest ilvl allows, and prio haste on jewellry
there's no set % we wanna aim for
I personally use 30 haste, 20 vers, 18 mast, 12 crit
30 haste feels really smooth
Try to get more haste, 25% haste at least for global and stuff
put a ring on now im sitting at 21
Personally I found anything over 20% haste was workable. Currently I'm sitting on 25% in my Decanter/Aegis M+ setup.
LOL. I've been working that for months.
I use the avatar talent in raid, is that not the play?
i'm just wondering i got all these 252 gear but not the correct stats.. do i only use them on mythics dungeons
i have them from weekly vaults
they terrible stats
masters and crits no verse
Good thing ilvl is op
guys how much score should we get for raider io?
i got like 896 on a key
idk if im doing bad or good
i just started tanking
ohh okay
cool that you somehow got into a key with 0 io tho
lol
im assuming its a guild key
ive always DPSed
never tanked
my io was crap though
lik 1.6k
but i got 300 io last night taning
tanking*
im now at like 1997
its impossible to get 896 score for a single 17. This would mean that you can get more than 8000by timing every 17 π
Hey! I'm fairly new to prot warrior and trying to get a hang of the use of reprisal legendary. Anyone got some beginner friendly tips?
You can intervene someone in melee range without it moving your position/ moving the boss. Very handy.
You can use a macro to have charge & intervene on the same button, charge for an enemy target and intervene for a friendly. Super simple to press the same button to get your reprisal up.
The Revenge! buffs from Reprisal donβt stack if you intervene a friendly and then charge back. SB uptime does tho.
Charging in on pull or taunt swap is great because youβre starting w block uptime and a buffed threat-builder
hey warriors! ... im so new to prot spec ive very little idea on the basic rotation / play of my warrior. i have been tanking 19's on another char and wanted to test this one out.
I was looking through the Pins for a basic guide but the video doesnt seem to be working. I presume its because there has been a change to playstyle maybe?! Is there any content that you guys could recommend? much appreciated
Welcome. I will update the video link, thanks. You can start by reading the Icy Veins/Wowhead guides linked in the #268491842637660160 Protection section. Those will give you a great basic understanding of the class.
maybe looking some streams and ask questions
If you prefer video guides:
@patent osprey has made one (it's for 9.0.5 but most of it still stands) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR2Vy52kpEQ&ab_channel=Plkatv
And also the guide by MarcelianOnline - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akvh4ZqC2K0&ab_channel=MarcelianOnline
00:00 - Intro
01:35 - Covenants
09:15 - Conduits
12:26 - Soulbinds
15:06 - Talents
25:45 - Legendaries
30:37 - Trinkets
33:00 - Stat Weights
34:47 - Spell Reflect
36:40 - Outro
Special thanks to
Mwahi (skyhold discord)
https://discord.gg/skyhold
Sense (Prot Warrior God)
https://www.twitch.tv/snse
https://www.youtube.com/c/SenseNurfed
Spell R...
The 9.0.5 Prot warrior guide is here! Learn all about shadowlands prot warrior rotation, talents, gear, soulbinds, covenants, the 9.0.5 prot warrior changes on top of all the right legendaries! For tanking, you can take protection warrior mythic plus, no problemo and in terms of Castle Nathria, it can hold its own and maybe it can do a little be...
That's a really slippery road depending on the streamer you're watching.
yep depending on you aspirations and you pve focus MM+ raid progress ect ect
Thanks for the info everyone.
Any streamers i could watch for m+ content ?
@hard tundra @royal venture I use an Intervene macro that will simply intervene on my focus target; I usually have my focus set to the Fury Warrior from my guild that I run with a lot, so it's easy to both get shield block and save his arse when he's pumping damage.
Both Ravager and Spear of Bastion can be macroed using @player macros. 99 times out of 100 that's where you want to fire it anyway, and the easy speed of use is worth it. I also have a cursor target version on mod:ctrl in case I need it.
Charge weaving for extra Shield Block is a relatively easy technique to learn for extra defence; in M+ you can also use enemy caster mobs as convenient targets to charge at for Rage and Shield Block. A mouse over charge macro is your friend here.
Don't overdo Ignore Pain, but don't ignore it either. Applying it once and tracking it with a weakaura is the best idea. It's only necessary to reapply it when it's about to drop off. You don't gain anything from mindlessly pumping it when you could be pushing Revenge.
NextbackLive that's the only protwar i usually look at
Thank you!
There's a list of reputable protection warrior streamers in the #268491842637660160 down below. I think Plka is the most consistent streamer of them.
Is there a place that explains how to use reprisal in raid?
Pretty straightforward. Intervene a melee (so you don't get tank mechanics from your co-tank) and Charge weave as much as possible.
I figured as much, it feels really janky trying to charge weave.
How much downtime is that charge worth?
And lastly how do I find time in the rotation? When do I leave to weave? As soon as I shield slam?
whenever you need block/rage
generally charge weaving in raid is omega simple
intervene basically on CD on a target close to you
Intervene isnt an issue ever
charge before taunt swaps or during animations/cast boss mechanics where the boss stands still
done.
thats it
if you absolutely need to, you can heroic leap->charge
but generally you find enough windows with just doing it during mechanics
or just charging an add on the side

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idgi either
not to say ive done my korthia every day since the patch released
but sitll
you'd imagine i'd get at least one
Ohno
gotta love when the RL leaves and you gotta act RL for the rest of the pug
also pugging sod is kinda ass
2nd last key i did was plague.. and someone aoe adds end up kiling me then say i pulled slow
i did
maybe i would have got matrix
what boss are u on
yeah thats what i wanted to get too lol
cause my guardian pug i didnt
i had queue open during attempts tho
so thats why i missed ya

but dw we'll both get it in vault or something


no one got matrix in my pug either btw
pugging raids are always shit cus people join just to pad their parses
i mean i too pad but raid-tanking is braindead so it doesnt wipe the raid cus of it
whisper me next time and i'll reserve u a spot bbgorl

is it worth to go lfr and get a dom socket item even if 213 ilvl ? xD and drop like 20ilvl

from the current gear
yep
really? hmm ive been playing this game all wrong ahaha
if its a 20 ilvl difference yes
just a shitty system but thats how it be
if its 252 to 213 probs not
thinking about changing a few buttons and macros
but then again gems are busted
not worth if youre gonna socket 80 leech into it probably
unless its for the blood link 
the damage increase maybe
i mean socket the increase dmg enemies u have attackd yet
i tried LFR to learn the fights
right now i just have socket the absorve one
and
dyz
this is how LFR went for me
got all up to him done
painsmith is icky
sad xD
lfr pain is so ignore mechanics
we tried like twice and i had no clue what was going on, other people didn't everyone was complaining, dipped
i knew you had to kill the spiked ball and that was really about it
kt head is 220 despite would be dropping from a 250 ilvl item so im not sure, will try to still get it
i mean for raid is nice cuz set bonus for m+ that is what i want not so much i suppose
You donβt. Ranged does, then you run through.
If Iβm feeling frisky Iβll hold spear for it but the balls have super low hp on LFR
Tanking Painsmith is like an extended dance. Tank boss in middle. Take tankbuster to corner. Donβt get hit by spike wave or balls. Get back to middle. Wait for taunt swap. Repeat.
oh, yeah, i fucked up on the corner part first time
On higher difficulties you can just go to the same corner each time and have DPS place traps accordingly. After that thereβs zero thinking required to rank the fight. Just dodge stuff
Itβs a great fight to goad DPS for fucking up mechanics because yours are not too bad
i got 3 pieces of 252 gear but have mastery and crit.. do i use them on mythic dungeons
If it's not jewelry use them
i'm screwed
if its not jewerly or dom sockets
u use them
no question
stats really dont matter
^not having a lot of haste or vers won't be what kills you most of the time
sure about that? afraid of getting killed with it
Between 3 jewelry slots and your lego slot you can get most stats you need to get going
On any tank for instance
well going to try
247 igeear
but i got 11 verse
like u said stat dont matter hope i dont die
Naaaa bro if you're 247 you're more than enough geared to do p much everything
if your 247 and your dying its not your stats
if it's a piece with mainstat
and it is your highest ilvl piece
you wear it
stats dont matter
unless its dom sockets
yeah
then u take the socket
π
its dom socket
then u dont swap it
thats y i'm wondering wheather i should were it
are the normal 226 versions of Aegis and Matrix still very good? worth getting to replace my Anima Field Emiiter?
yes
thanks I was wondering if I should do the TW to get an extra chance for them
Matrix is such a good trinket, totally worth it
i've still only gotten matrix on 226
and it still did 450k damage/healing in a sd run
it's nuts
at least i have 252 aegis now - that's probably gonna hold up for a long time

until they add an even more OP trinket next patch

yep
known bug?
happened to me twice this week
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the other one is stuck too
yeah
do we know how it happens or no
i have no idea
did the whole lfr
dom item socket are like legendary? because 0 drops
at least farmed embers
i did normal and hc 7/10 and whole lfr
drop the one hand weapon on the eye and nothing mor
even cn had more drops
it took me like 4 clears until i actually started getting something
ya
you can always complain
das true
its a human right
no he isnt allowed
i really cant
i think nomoe would kill be for that as well
he has had his complain privileges revoked
on wednesday i went from 236 helm to 252 dock socket, 239 gloves to 252 226 shoulders to 252
it was a big day
got like 5 overall ilvl

ya same
yer but im not gunna equip scale and aegis at the same time
i can get bracers at some point
thats what i want to do to bliz
+14 dos should be piss easy for me right
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dos is a tough key this week
it's a known bug since this week
or rather since this week it happens in almost every run
you can still time the key if you got a blaster group but uhh
just skip the key for this week if possible
Yeah. Had 2 of those bosses bug this week in a 15. Had to pull a full platform and a half in island wing and both gas bags in gorechop wing to balance.
Still timed, but was grosss
was weird, I had it go totally fine in a 20 on tuesday no bugs
then last night I had 2 bugged boys
ironically since those guys take absolutely forever to kill i think if you knew they were guaranteed bugged and pulled accordingly
the key would probably go faster
i had no flaw on spires 15 but the last boss we missed it by 2 secs
i got my 15 dos key
then dps were too low ?
Hmm, does anyone know why ExΓͺqt use 'Crash the ramparts' for Sylvanas xD?
probably didnt realize/forgot to swap 
3rd potency doesnt really do a lot for us anyway, show of force is ~1% increase xd
So going condensed anima is the call there, i see
i got 14 dos and i'm getting un-nessecarily stressed over it
You got this man, just pay attention for the first two pulls and the rest is easy
Get an idea of what you want to pull in ardebweald and you're ggg
If you're talking about Mika's tree, it's worth remembering that Hammer of Genesis is really good as well, which requires the middle Endurance
Are prot warriors squishier than the other tanks?
I feel tankier on my dh that's 20 ilvls lower, and my warrior is 249. This is in like, a +16 DoS, for reference, the first 2 pulls were destroying me
if you play poorly like i do, and don't make proper use of SB and IP along with major cooldowns at correct times, yes
Not really, those pulls are more about your/your group's ability to kick the right spells
Even post-fix DH does get a little more magic defense without working for it
they are not, the lack of selfhealing is kind of a weakness though
I see, I see. I figured +15s would be a walk in the park with how geared I am, but I guess it's just a l2p issue, along with bad dps
i came to prot warr after prot pally, once i learned to mantain SB up most of the time couldn't find any other character tankier
I guess that's it. I'm mostly used to dh tanking, with it's reactionary(kinda) defensives, so I just need to get used to maintaining shield block at all times, instead of going in with the mindset of pop sb to block big hits
Yeah it's for sure more active than reactive. You need to know certain fights/pulls a little better for defensive timings etc.
It's a super fun tank though and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
Very rewarding
Do you always want SB rolling? I find myself running out of cds and stuff 2/3 through the pull
Talking m+ here
generally more if you are in smak range, but pretty much yeah as much as you can
don't forget to make liberal use of your leap , and intervene, or other adds to create opportunities to charge again, giving you more rage
Iβm pretty new in M+ tanking and TBH having done very little this patch its proving annoying working out good pathing in each run kinda going blind alot which I know makes it suck for the rest of the group ala I am disinclined to run m+ because of it. Yet its really where I wanna be rolling. Iβm ref m10+
don't give up or give in to madness and you'll do just fine, when things go wrong just remember what you have to do and try not to panic.
I try lol
dratons has some "beginner" routes that you can implenent with the mdt addon, that should be a good basis
and then you can optimize those once you get a feel for the dungeons
Blood dk is unreasonably tanky 
Sweet must look those up. π
That's because those first 2 pulls are literally most dangerous packs in all of wow
Especially for pwar

I recently switched from prot warrior ( my main ) to dh ( alt ) and started doing dungeons... And tbf dh is waaay too ahead of all tanks in taking less magic damage and has huge heal but prot warrior has its own advantages, Honestly I feel more tanky in the first pull of DoS with warrior and also I feel super tabkie against the pack before the mechagon with war.
isnt dh like the most squishy tank atm
DH has the weakest mitigation next to BDK
If I manage to get my shield block up I can stand and don't kite at all in those packs
but they make up with it by kiting
It is true except in magic damage, their mitigation is insane
There are many pulls I feel safer with prot war
But for example if I want to do Tazavash Hardmode I will definitely pick dh over warrior.
However if you get to play prot war properly you feel almost as strong as a bear against physical damage
Look at how many times you cast revenge and ip
And compare it to other prot warriors
There are some standards for it
There's a link here that will help you
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This tbh
There was a video one of the guys posted in how to analyze your log
But I can't find it
last time @jagged pier sent it to me
its on jakeys youtube
Just a quick guide of the few big things you should look at when reviewing logs as a prot warrior. Hopefully you find it useful :)
Get started with logging yourself - https://www.warcraftlogs.com/help/start
unluck
is okay i'll work it out
Havenβt done it but PF bursting makes some of the slime pulls tricky, right?
you can just pull slime little by little since its tyrannical they shouldnt last long
Have you not done any keys this week?
The key to understanding Ignore Pain is to realise that reapplying Ignore Pain doesn't really gain you anything. So have a WA that tracks if you have Ignore Pain and how long is left on the buff, and as long as you have it and it's not about to run out within a GCD then there is literally no point in reapplying it.
reapplying is good
(well, a few edge cases, but meh)
if u know a big thing
is about to come
like guardian obliterate big ip with shield block
i only have ip duration
why would you only do duration
I literally don't care about amount, I just put it on if I don't have it or it's about to fall off
duration is quite useless
cuz what if its only like 500 left
then its as good as nothing
Then I press it next GCD
im talking to RTE

thats not the point
teach meee!! π
the point is
i ahd that
i removed it
here you are
i was to focus
on it
the amount
and wasting on ip
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thats why mine only shows text
hmm
lemme find
i just hid the icon
of Maroks WA

its the small number above my HP
so i just track IP by peripheral view
i'm not going to show video of that 13 btw
that was, horrendous, by me
well i can show my run
right now
i think i fuckd up so much tho
playing all 3 specs of warrior
and trying to maximize in a way all 3
is fuckd up xD
eh
the run
i use outplayed on curse to capture games, and upload runs privately
u have to pass
to 30min or so
the frist was a big fail i guess
you got hit
in the back, SO FUCKING MUCH, on the 2nd pull
like, stupid amounts
you had to waste shieldwall cuz you were slow with pulling and got meleed like 6 times in the back
i'm going to watch for my own knowledge as well, not give much input
because im as bad, or worse (likely)
yeah you got hit fuckloads in the back on the 2nd pull in the dungeon
thats why you died
or well, wiped
@sick sentinel
im hearing
and the next time you died, also into the back
i tho i could tho because last week i did the 17
like that
then i downgrde it pug it again and i wwent super slow
you died twice in the beginning because you moved poorly
and just ate alot of frontals
i took so many damage
for no reason
ty for ur input
which are the different sounds for sorry
i hear achoo gasp and a couple others
yeah in the 16, a few times you also dont turn around quickly enough
one shield block
one ignore pain
just added today
actually
ahahahahaha
so funny
hmm
turning around makes a big difference?
you cant block.
i NEVER knew that
what
thats mindblow
ahahahaha
i didnt know cuz i men its a game
holy fuck this crazy
you cant parry, dodge or block attacks that are into your back
how can i try to push w/o that type of knowledge
you have to face them
makes sense
180Β° angle
but i tho as long it was active
no
so thats why if i dont los
it right
when i want to stack them
and they are all over the place
im fuckd
same goes for other classes?
LoSing to stack up mobs is fine
everything in thegame
you cant parry, dodge or block attacks that are into your back - applies to every class
basic game mechanic
well in my defense i played wow frist time in a private sv ages ago, and i just really joined wow at shadowlands
xD
is fine, didnt think of it
any more things like basic u noticed?
that i didnt know
in the quick look u gave
i just save my runs there, im not going to be a stream just chilling and showing
i personally dont like your UI, but thats just personal pref obv
well, if you can time a 16 your clearly better than i am
nope
my highest timed was a 17 pog
was such a good moment
i have a 17 mists that i want to go try
what u dont like most?
best all time i ever timed was a 16 jnkyard
i dont like urs in a way so xD
thats like design pref i guess
like i said, personal pref
butttttt
i cna learn
tellmewhen was all by me
and threat plates too
i keep swithcing colors and stuff
but somethings makes more sense, even tho its personal preference
im not sure where to clean up more tho, w/o using wa
mainly just how ultra dark your buttons get when theyre not ready, and your default HP/Resourcebar
they were blue
the dark was today
so i could focus on the light ones
my problem is i just don't pay attention to everything, and use wall on a 30% hp mob.
then, i don't have wall, or something equally as dumb
default hp how to change it in way that better? i really like gingi one
its kinda default
but with a solid texture
its shadowframes?
name window?
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1155134813 it was more of the time like this one
ahhh
literally blocks
ahahahahahaha
so much
i dont even mean the %
but i was always forgeting
literally just the entire window
with your name in it
is twice the size of your hp window
i don't know how anybody can have a boner over these types of UI's, looks like a fuckin slot machine about to pay out
the thing i put biggggggggggg is because to make it easier to see
but maybe i keep making things bigger
and i dont see nothing ahaha
also, watching some streaming"yeah its easy" meanwhile pic related is is the stream, its a bit intimidating for most people when they open it up first time
the best ui
wait
its in a maximus video ahaha
ya i know which one you mean
one of the most useless informations to see
is "healing taken"
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literally the most useless information
ahhhh
i use parrot to show how much im blocking
ahahaha
cuz i like seeing dmg taken in my HP window
so i have parrot installed just for that
@sick sentinel laugh at the limit maximus video
@sick sentinel why do you have 20+ abilities right in the middle of ur screen?
so i can tell how much shit actually hurts and how much im blocking from that attack
very satisfying
i hav watch that 3 times or more
You can literally only see your own toon
to use it on cd



