protection

[sweet summit]

true true

[radiant anvil]

I've seen some tanks not take a lot of damage because they don't taunt off like they should

[strong forum]

in raid its absolutely a good trinket

in m+

eeeeh idk

if id take that risk

[radiant anvil]

I run decanter and scale I love it

[strong forum]

but given that it doesnt have a deadzone i guess its good

i want sack + matrix or aegis + matrix tbh

[austere wedge]

Hello, would you pick the scale considering i have it already on 246 or the other trinket? For the other slot i have atm Weave of wraped fates 226

[strong forum]

that sounds like big dick

pick the scale yes

[radiant anvil]

Scale

Always scale

[austere wedge]

even tho i already have it on 246?

[radiant anvil]

Scale is S tier for us

[strong forum]

mmmh

[radiant anvil]

Good damage and shield

[austere wedge]

that i know but i already farmed it

[lavish oracle]

Do you have a cloak?

[strong forum]

then idk

[radiant anvil]

Even bigger with more mobs

[austere wedge]

i do have a 252 cloak yes

[strong forum]

but ilvl is HUGE on scale

like even the 6ilvl

are like 10% bigger shield

[austere wedge]

it is 4.5k shield or smth

upgrade

[lavish oracle]

Oh, yeah, the other trinkets bad

[strong forum]

viscera is not terrible and not great

just pick the scale and be done with it tbh

[austere wedge]

i also have bracers 246 with dom socket

but now i have 239 on

very confused tbf

[strong forum]

vault sucks this patch

if you raid

[austere wedge]

yes it gets very confusing, ty for tips anyway

[strong forum]

the curse of choice is real

but like i said, the 6ilvl are literally 10% upgrade on scale

[radiant anvil]

You might have a higher chance of getting the dom socket from raid

Than seeing a scale at 252

[cinder fern]

I rolled prot on my vault nearly the entire length of 9.0, never saw a scale in my box.

[radiant anvil]

I just got a scale this season as well

I had to get a dps to get it in a box and hand it to me lol

[cinder fern]

ended up just running phial/decanter :V

[blazing condor]

real men farmed the scale and took 30 tries to get it

[sturdy sable]

Took me well over fifty started farming it during council got it 2 weeks before we killed sire

[austere wedge]

Same. Both patches

[sturdy sable]

Ended up grinding low keys so i could burn valor on it since tgey were faster

[blazing condor]

idk what i was on at the time

i ran in 20 times in 5 days on a tyran week just cus i was pissed about not having it

now i hate DOS

[indigo hatch]

I'm having a hard time deciding between the to M+ items from the vault. I currently have a 226 helmet with dom socket (but no set bonus yet, because I only got to dom sockets) and a 229 cloak. Both items will only be temporary, but I am not sure which will give me more right now

[plush tendon]

that might be a sim yourself kind of answer; either choice is going to be temporary

[vocal nimbus]

Yo guys, what anima powers are u picking in m+

[mighty valley]

Tanknotes has a good rundown https://www.tanknotes.com/mythic-plus/season-2-tormented

[plush tendon]

i like to use a picker wheel and see what RNG gives me

[light thicket]

blade of the lifetaker is awesome

wish we had it in m+

[hollow sun]

what should i take? I have a 220 scale and a 226 phial now

i don't really wanna take the bracers but the other choices are very meh

[jagged pier]

ring its high haste

and bracers are dom socket

[hollow sun]

you mean, the ring slot can give high haste right? cause that ring doesn't. And the thinket is kinda meh

[jagged pier]

that ring is crit haste no?

[hollow sun]

yeah but the haste is not much. I was more oriented towards the strenght increase, but perhaps ring is better

[tribal dust]

heya! i've gone up to quite a lot of haste and i am also playing old warriors soul so i was wondering if i might be hitting a cap in raid whilst playing into the fray. Has anyone crunched the numbers or is it still just haste > every other sec stat?

[strong forum]

ilvl > haste

ITF doesnt care about haste cap

[tribal dust]

it's not a question of ilvl really, i am just wondering if it'd make more sense to me to swap to a vers heavy ring of same ilvl for example

[strong forum]

not unless you hit 39% haste before ITF

or just sim it

:^)

[tribal dust]

aight thanks ^^

[main wasp]

is the korthia Haste/Vers ring (maxed at 233) good enough to use over 246 haste/mast or haste/crit rings? the only other haste/vers is the NW one

[sweet summit]

nah

[strong forum]

nope

[radiant anvil]

Really as long as you got high haste you should be good right?

[strong forum]

if your ring has haste, its a good ring

simple as

[radiant anvil]

Yeah I was thinking that you don't want to sacrifice ilvl for haste / vers items

I know that's true for things with str but for rings and necks I'm not 100% sure that's the same case

[strong forum]

you can drop ilvl on rings and neck defo

but you dont drop ilvl from haste + X ring to haste vers ring

thats inting

[main wasp]

got it

[white bramble]

Hey there, i am looking for something to sim my protgear. Do you Guys just use Raidbots or is there any other website?

[strong forum]

just equip highest ilvl and youre good to go

[sweet summit]

raidbots yeah

but thats just for dps

damage

[radiant anvil]

I sim myself by asking my healers if healing me is hard

[modern brook]

bad metric

every healer is a hunchback mouth breather

[lavish oracle]

no, that's dps

healers are our buds

[modern brook]

Nah Healers are Quasimodo bro

DPS arent people

[crude cosmos]

sweet! Thanks for the reply! I was dreading the change of covenant lol

[pure pagoda]

hey all, is there anywhere I can find out what stuff I can spell reflect? I usually read tanknotes but it doesn't seem to list everything I can reflect

[mighty valley]

There's a spreadsheet in the pins, near the bottom

[tropic linden]

How do u mitigate deathlink consistently if it's not blockable?

[modern brook]

Ip and demo shout

Same way we block everything that's not blockable we ignore it and yell at it

[tropic linden]

IP reduces the dmg to the raid? Isn't just mitigation?

[wooden widget]

hi all i didnt see in the pins, which guide do you recommend icy veins or wowhead

oh theres a whole channel

nvm!

[sturdy sable]

soo whats the census on the trinket off Eye?

[zenith vigil]

there definitely isn't a trinket list on both wowhead or icyveins

[sturdy sable]

well thanks for clearing that up for me

good thing i asked here then

[radiant anvil]

Use both, and watch people like pika for more advance breakdowns

[modern brook]

Probably does more harm than good, but the good parts can be pretty good.

[sturdy sable]

yeah i know what the guide says i was more hoping for someones experiences with said trinket

but f me i guess

guess ill be the trail blazer on this topic

[strong forum]

in raid it has solid uptime

in m+ it can be hit or miss since your hp moves alot

[sturdy sable]

thank you Nom

[strong forum]

its not great and not terrible

[modern brook]

smh

how u gunna be pissy at ppl reading the guide but not pissy at ppl reading the trinket to you :/

[strong forum]

ima piss where i want

olay

[modern brook]

yah yah

[strong forum]

🇪🇸

[modern brook]

Is that some world cup joke im too free to understand?

[zenith vigil]

can you do an ASMR stream where you just read activated trinket proc descriptions to me?

[modern brook]

High key would watch tha

[modern brook]

Noms got a voice fam ❤️

[zenith vigil]

true

[strong forum]

kek

[blazing condor]

do we have a mikanikos tree?

[noble bison]

I must say that i like my warrior necrolord, is my alt but i have enjoy so far this play style of support

[zenith vigil]

night fae gang rise up

[blazing condor]

maybe it's a non-issue in reality but the first left side feels weird

[pure pagoda]

thanks

[blazing condor]

but thanks

[plush tendon]

[modern brook]

You can go right side no one cares but we only have 2 good endurance conduits

[strong forum]

9/10 you dont use phial anyway

[modern brook]

honestly the knock back combod with brons knockback seems more annoying than its worth

this is like 90% of mikos power here anyways

[zenith vigil]

thats why night fae gang is where its at

plus apparently NF is arm's best cov now

[modern brook]

also - who im talking about

[blazing condor]

😳

[sweet summit]

who the FUCK is that

👀

[strong forum]

me

[sweet summit]

u are hot

[strong forum]

thx u too

[sweet summit]

thanks

[strong forum]

wna fuck

[sweet summit]

yea

[strong forum]

nice

[modern brook]

its mikonikos

this is my magnum opus btw

single best joke ive ever made

[craggy pilot]

anyone know why Revenge & TC got an AOE cap and Thrash doesnt? 🤔

[strong forum]

cuz fuck pwar damage

typical overreaction from bfa

[craggy pilot]

like putting AOE cap on Thrash would fix Druid insta

[sweet summit]

what no

thats the wrong direction

just remove caps entirely

[distant crystal]

a couple of niche caps here and there are neat

i felt like fury being the 5-target gods was a cool niche

is revenge/tc 5 target capped or just split beyond 5

[sweet summit]

square root past 5 iirc

no thats not it

DR is sqr root

its just some dumb falloff shit

[lyric relic]

do you guys know which tormentor is in ardenweald this week?

not sure if theres a resource to check what the tormentor rotation is on dungeons this week

[zenith vigil]

genuinely surprised it's not on wowhead's front page

[distant crystal]

i think mdt has it

[modern brook]

Tc and revenge scaling is werid

[plush tendon]

ima guess Frost, Bleed, Fire, then Tin Can

[modern brook]

Uncapped to 5 targets, then linearly less damage up to 12 where it stays at the same value until 20where its soft capped

[strong forum]

thats how it was in beta

but they changed it

[modern brook]

Did they? When

[strong forum]

in beta

[modern brook]

Smh

This game sucks

[strong forum]

its now just straight up sqrt past 5

[modern brook]

Probably better tbh

[strong forum]

unless im completely sperging

[modern brook]

Ngl I think ur sperging but frankly it straight doesn't matter

So I'm agreeing to show unified front to the lurkers

[strong forum]

its dumb AF that we're the only tank thats entirely hard/softcapped

vdh has uncapped immo aura and spb

bear has uncapped thrash

[modern brook]

Lmao ashen hollow

[strong forum]

idk what monk has but fuck monk

pally is just pally

[plush tendon]

Blood DK Blood Boil!

but at least we have challenging shout....

[modern brook]

TRUUUUUUUUUU

[strong forum]

bdk needs challenging shout on a 10sec CD

that i know aswell

[modern brook]

Bdk got done dirty tbh

[plush tendon]

dont remind me 😦

[modern brook]

I miss the utility and viable conversations from 8.0

[strong forum]

they still exist

[modern brook]

Just in the bdk discord :keksquad:

man i dont get any of the cool emotes

[restive wigeon]

anyone else getting omega deleted by the first 2 packs in dos

+18 and above

makes me wanna quit the prot life

[strong forum]

dos is our achilles heel

[restive wigeon]

its in my vault

every week

like how can I take those amounts of damage

tf am I supposed to do

[strong forum]

run

[restive wigeon]

I did

[radiant anvil]

i hear the curve from 16+ is pretty high and ive only done it on a 16

[restive wigeon]

theyre casting siht

[strong forum]

and pray your dps can kill it fast enough

[restive wigeon]

shit

at me

[radiant anvil]

the first pack was a bit easier but that big pack full of caster

oof

[restive wigeon]

I used bolster for the first pack

held shieldwall for the second pack

cuz that one has the nasty caster in it

idk im just getting cocked

[radiant anvil]

yeah pug's do not like to interrupt it

[restive wigeon]

for some reason I even lived both packs on +20 but still depleted somewhere else

[modern brook]

key multilpiers and fort/tyr stack mulitplicatively, so dungeon difficulty is exponential

[restive wigeon]

on 19 on 18 my healers just couldnt handle it

and I get it

[modern brook]

and things are really only balanced around the 15 mark

[restive wigeon]

the damage is completely outrageous

[radiant anvil]

more vers

MORE VERS!

[restive wigeon]

ye I guess so

but like idk

[strong forum]

better dps

[restive wigeon]

design seems flawed

[strong forum]

absolutely

[restive wigeon]

how am I taking that much damage

[strong forum]

those 2-3 packs in DoS are absolute death

[restive wigeon]

when I literally have almost no healing

[strong forum]

pure magic dmg

[modern brook]

welcome to 9.X tanking

[restive wigeon]

I think even bdk does better in that situation

[radiant anvil]

so as long as i have shockwave and ancient aftershock im good to go

[restive wigeon]

at least a bdk can heal himself

[radiant anvil]

i roll with a boomkin for 15+ because of the fact trees

thats the one and only reason

[restive wigeon]

guess I should keep running wizard comp as well

trees are broken

[distant crystal]

Jump in there, pump a bunch of dam, blow all your defensives, then head for the hills

[radiant anvil]

i don't even care who else is in the group

that trees is op

[distant crystal]

If you die blame the dps for not killing it faster

[modern brook]

always this

[restive wigeon]

I start to prefer tyra weeks on prot honestly

[strong forum]

most tanks do

[restive wigeon]

bears never look like they have any issues

[distant crystal]

idk man i like the pain

[restive wigeon]

with incoming damage

[strong forum]

tyra weeks are hard on dps, fort weeks are hard on tank

[modern brook]

inside cds bears are invincible

[radiant anvil]

i like mobs to die fast

boss's are easy to tank

[bronze forge]

Hey guys just started prot warr as kyrian, anyone know if there is a cast on target macro for spear of bastion?

[restive wigeon]

I would just like to not get completely deleted

[modern brook]

[@target]

probably wont wokr for spear

[radiant anvil]

i remember when i first tanked DoS

[modern brook]

[@mouse] i think is where your mouse is

[radiant anvil]

i pulled the first double pack

and i folded

[modern brook]

[@self] drops it with you as the center point

[restive wigeon]

I remember my first dos as well, was also a warrior tanking it but not me, he also just immediatly died

+0 btw

[radiant anvil]

i still have issues with groups where they don't let me get aggro on them fully

they lust, drop cd's, and don't cc

and its like let me charge in first

[restive wigeon]

I rarely ever have aggro issues

I charge in

clap

swifty macro

[radiant anvil]

oh i wish they would let me do it

i don't even dismount before they blow their load

[restive wigeon]

lmao

[strong forum]

never had aggro issues

just built different

[radiant anvil]

i got trigger happy dps

[modern brook]

you have morons

absolute baseball stars

[strong forum]

im also a trigger happy dps

but DBTS is rotational cd

[radiant anvil]

you mean allstars

[strong forum]

:^)

[modern brook]

no allstars can do things besides throw

you got an entire team of outfielders

[restive wigeon]

yknow whats funny

the dos packs

I charged in there

with a 40k fleshcraft and like a 40k ish scale shield

and obv reprisal

and I still almost immediatly died

WHAT IS THAT DAMAGE

[strong forum]

its called magic damage

[distant crystal]

https://tenor.com/uyuI.gif

[radiant anvil]

its like smooth brain charging the enraged dogs in halls

[strong forum]

magic dont give no fucks about your shield

[modern brook]

[craggy pilot]

if i have Shard of Dyz, Kyr and Cor, and 2x 226 items with socket, and a 213 chest (downgrade from 236)
should i use the 213?

[modern brook]

in raid yes

[strong forum]

if it means you get the set bonus

1000%

[modern brook]

^

IDR any of he shard except dyz cause

[strong forum]

the bonus is worth exactly 259 ilvl (on 1 item)

[modern brook]

like 252 ilvl difference?

[strong forum]

ya

[modern brook]

lmao

[strong forum]

pretty sure you cant get 700 dps from a single item anywhere else

:^)

[distant crystal]

hmm time to find a 0 ilvl dom shard piece

[strong forum]

except weapon

[distant crystal]

to test this theory

[modern brook]

you can probably just make one

[craggy pilot]

im not getting the set, i dont have 3 blood shards yet

and i do M+

[modern brook]

i wouldnt drop 23 ilvls for +30 speed

looked them up

Kyr and Cor are worth it

Dyz i wouldnt drop ilvl for

[craggy pilot]

Dyz worse than Cor?

[modern brook]

in keys?

yeha

[craggy pilot]

ok

[dusky canopy]

Kyr for sure

[modern brook]

Kyr is dumb yeah

[dusky canopy]

Rank 3 kyr does like 10% or more of my self healing

That with the ward power

Ez

[craggy pilot]

ward power?

the 20% shield every 45s?

[dusky canopy]

Yes, couldn't think of the name atm

[modern brook]

stone ward

[distant crystal]

tbh even in raid Cor is kinda lit

[dusky canopy]

Right now I'm running kyr and jas in M+ mostly because it's my only options but they actually seem to be helpful

[distant crystal]

so many add fights, and it's your dmg not your dmg to that target

[craggy pilot]

does Cor stack?

like if you attack 5 new targets is is 100% dmg?

nah that would be OP 😄

[distant crystal]

lol, don't think so

would just refresh

[craggy pilot]

or stack the duration maybe?

[distant crystal]

either way of stacking would be pretty strong

maybe it pandemics

but no, just refreshes buff to 20sec

[craggy pilot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nC31vMok47nNwxR4kC6L2x
ah i guess that settles it 😄

-1.2% dps on 5 targets

[modern brook]

Dyz is a damage increase to a target

Cor increases your damage

[distant crystal]

dyz should just ramp up on all the targets right

or is it only 1 at a time

[craggy pilot]

cant it increase on multiple targets?

[modern brook]

Dys likely loses on 2

[craggy pilot]

or is it locked to one at a time?

[modern brook]

Smh fuxk tool rips bro

[craggy pilot]

are we supposed to take the set in M+ because it works "sometimes" ?

or just the 3 dps + Kyr?

[strong forum]

sets arent supposed to work in m+

absolutely not

its a massive bug if they do

[modern brook]

Massive feature

[jagged pier]

its also in the pins which shards to take

to what content

[modern brook]

The question isn't which gems but whether it's worth dropping ilvl for

[jagged pier]

They are

Like no question

They are even in m+

Like 30 ilvls is not the same as fay getting 500-600k worth of absorb from a shard

And thats not to mention the dps increase shards

[modern brook]

@craggy pilot there u go fam

[shy coral]

just tried tanking a dungeon for the first time at level 23 and literally kept dying to the first mob pack

genuinely dont know if it was my fault or the healer

[modern brook]

Which dungeon

[shy coral]

freehold

[modern brook]

Also it was your teams fault

OH

U MEAN LEVEL 23

Lmao I thought you meant +23

[shy coral]

yes not +23

[strong forum]

leveling experience is uh

[modern brook]

Bad

[strong forum]

yeah uhm

[modern brook]

Prioritize shield block over ignore pain

Assuming you have it rn

[strong forum]

never use IP

[shy coral]

was using shield block and ignore pain and I still died

[strong forum]

leveling is just bad

before level 50

i think

[modern brook]

Consider changing time line to like cata

The earlier dungeons are less stupid to tank, and have quests for bonus exp

In addition to the bonus exp from randomin

[shy coral]

how do they not let you queue for any dungeon and still level in bfa

[modern brook]

Channel that rage into shield blocks

Rotate whatever defensive cds you have

[shy coral]

promise I did lol

even just unlocked the 2 charges on shield block

[modern brook]

Lmao we have to unlock that?

[shy coral]

still died really quick

yeah level 23

[modern brook]

Yeeeesh

[shy coral]

just got it

[limpid pawn]

fastest renown catchup?

[shy coral]

would a different tank class be easier to learn for my first tank?

[strong forum]

lfr and spamming dungeons

[limpid pawn]

i heard torghats was good, how does thisc ompare w/ dungeon spam

[modern brook]

It's not that prots hard to learn, although it is more involved than say druid or brew

It's that the scaling at lower levels is whack and we get extra fuckes by it

[craggy pilot]

@jagged pier ofc i know absorb is worth it, but i was thinking if the Dyz is worth dropping 20 ilvl for as prot tank... the dps it gives seems pretty low

[shy coral]

im also never getting the proc from devestator?

i dont think I've seen my shield slam cooldown reset once

[strong forum]

are you sure

like again, leveling is just weird

i havent been low level since cata so i cant say much

but i imagine its quite shit

[craggy pilot]

whats better to upgrade?
239 wep to 242 for 750 valor
233 ring to 242 for 750 valor
?

[strong forum]

weppy

[fading quiver]

i thought wep upgrades are only 500 valor

[craggy pilot]

oh it was

my addon is wrong then 😄

is ring 3rd thing to upgrade after wep/shield?

[fading quiver]

it depends, theres a good argument for trinkets too

[topaz dragon]

I feel like an idiot, but I pump IP on eye. That fight just hurts so much :(

[fading quiver]

eye has nothing that is blockable

minus the add that comes down

[topaz dragon]

I could be revenging. but the eye >.>

It goes straight through me

[fading quiver]

so many dumb unblockable things in SoD

all of sylvannus, all of the eye, tankbuster on the nine.

like... why

[radiant anvil]

because

we like a challenge

[dusky elk]

I need to find a list of unblockable things in sod, cause my dumbass was spamming SB on sylvannas, the eye and the nine

[fading quiver]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQgrszRE22Brb0f5k761vUXVe7MD1-qHThpalxzn0zWFRdQqrh0hM5LcQNoa-lLz4781S5rH2e9tRXG/pubhtml#

[mellow bridge]

what soulbind do you guys use this week for m+ as kyrian?

[zenith vigil]

according to wowhead it's pelagos always

nothing in the pins tells me otherwise

[mellow bridge]

well it will def be mikanikos next week

but idk what to use for this week 🤔

[crimson furnace]

anyone knows anything about getting a shard back after missplacing it???

its about the blood shard from the world boss

[zenith vigil]

why? where did you see that

[mellow bridge]

because the capstone is absolutely insane

Mikanikos will hard outdps pelagos on aoe

[craggy pilot]

fuck this week M+ is hilarious

just had +15 run where i was doing 2nd most dps

and then healer left before 1st boss :<

[zenith vigil]

also, is there a generally accepted better piece to craft reprisal on if you're doing mostly m+

[mellow bridge]

legs

more stats

[chrome falcon]

any banner gang played with the emeni capstone in m+ yet? haven't been able to finish the renown for this week yet

[candid shadow]

what do you guys think of scale +defence matric for raid ?

[dusky elk]

So like... on the fights where no ability is blockable... do we still cast SB for the auto attacks or just dump into IP and Revenge

[chrome falcon]

literally just unbind SB for the eye

it only does dps

and if you're on mythic and doing the strat where tanks never reset you'll die if you spend rage on it

(that was my experience week 1, probably not true with better gear)

[obtuse monolith]

I ran Signet on the Eye today because I don’t have the Wall. No idea if that’s a good idea or not but now I’m a 5/10H tank! /flex

[strong forum]

grats

also, signet only works for avatar for us, so its not good at all

[mellow bridge]

You still use SB as the majority of dmg comes from whitehits

Major exception is the eye as even his "whitehit" isn't blockable

Just spam ip on that guy

Altho you can use SB for the melee add

Not the two eyes, the one that tries to pull you in

[weak stone]

SB work on Sylvanas "Rangers Heartseeker"? My prot warrior takes roughly 15-20% of my HP pool in damage where the other tank in my guild, a druid, gets absolutly wrecked.

[mellow bridge]

Check the block/reflect pin

[obtuse monolith]

Whopping 20k damage on two procs. Plus some rage for Revenge.
4 procs were Reck that also had no defensive value because can’t parry either

[fringe marten]

The only blockable damage on eye is from? the angel mob right?

[sweet summit]

yah

[weak stone]

That block/reflect pin is legit

thank you

[true sparrow]

Is the Deathlink damage that pings out across the raid reduced, if you absorb with Ignore Pain?

Check pins, scroll all the way down to the tinyurl/reflectguide link

[buoyant heath]

Got it thank you

[cinder roost]

F the Eye, just use SB and ask for all externals 🙂

[true sparrow]

But would something like Chicocoon help the raid damage, then?

or are they still getting bounced for the full value of dmg taken

[cinder roost]

Asborb should work for the deathlink, it's not that deadly though

[true sparrow]

I watch the raids health after the Monk gets hit, and then after i get hit, and i feel bad.

[cinder roost]

Don't, just say to your heals you help them parse 😄

[violet violet]

Sooooooo is the nine trinket op af in keys?

Seems much better than blood scale. But I could be wrong

[true sparrow]

Holy shit its so good.

[modern brook]

Sb only doing dps still makes it a better use of your rage than ip

[true sparrow]

absorbs any hits under 6k. so, if you full of necrotic, taking 5999 dmg every 0.5 seconds, suddenly no youre not.

[violet violet]

Does it absorb all hits? Or only frontals? Or only physical?

[true sparrow]

physical, magic, bleeds, poisons, I think it has to be in fronty of you for directed attacks, but debuffs it doesnt care the sources location

[violet violet]

Seems insane haha thanks man

[regal vale]

It's insane for pulling big, lots of small mobs feel like you aren't even taking damage

[true sparrow]

its like Oldschool Block, where you just become immune

[mellow bridge]

Yeah absorbs reduce the damage

[violet violet]

Biggest tossup is the bigger instant threat gen from blood scale though

[true sparrow]

Run both! alternate on packs 😛

[mellow bridge]

Only the damage that actually reduces your own hp gets reflected onto the raid

[violet violet]

But for pure defense in keys it seems amazing

[regal vale]

Line that bad boy up with a shield block In a massive pull and watch your health bar remain at 100%

[mellow bridge]

So you wanna have like 2 IPs for it and it will barely deal any dmg

[chrome falcon]

When you're with classes that just instantly blast like NF arms

[mellow bridge]

Add demo shout if necessary

[chrome falcon]

Missing out on snap threat on scale really felt bad

[true sparrow]

❤️

[limpid pawn]

can someone gimme jaithys max string

for raid bots

[true sparrow]

Jaithys, the Prison Blade (233)

main_hand=,id=186410,enchant_id=6229,bonus_id=7189/6652/1472/6646/7748

Like that?

(for Normal)

[steep condor]

im NF and have set up my conduits for arms. I know this is def not ideal but i should still be able to pug my way up to 15's like this, right?

I guess the question is, just how dependent on conduits are we?

[mighty valley]

Not very

You will definitely be fine using a 2nd soulbind for your prot conduits

[steep condor]

Could I just go with the arms conduits? That soulbind seems to have some nice stuff for prot and half the conduits are the same as arms anyway.

[true sparrow]

I just tank with Dreamweaver or Korayn.

[steep condor]

I will check out dream weaver (middle one?) then. I have korayn set up for fury in m+. Thx man.

[median tulip]

Is it worth dropping 3 ilvls to get a Domination Socket?

[oak lotus]

Yes unless speed or other shitty ones

[median tulip]

I've got a Shard of Dyz I can use

[radiant anvil]

3ilvls would still be worth if you get a healing received gain or a dps gain. But if it's for speed it wouldn't be worth

[median tulip]

Dyz is the "damage to a target you damage, stacks" one

[radiant anvil]

Yeah the gain is worth losing 3 ilvls

[torpid junco]

Heroic dom socket piece or a 252 ilvl vault piece ?

[jaunty rune]

Does Ignore pain reduce the raid damage taken from Deathlink?

[obtuse monolith]

Just dug through my log for you. The base damage (before mitigation) the raid takes appears to be 63% of the ~net~ damage each tank takes after mitigation & absorbs. Bear took a 38k hit, raid ticks were ~24k before mitigation. I took 16k on the next hit (incl trinket absorb & IP), raid ticks were ~10k

This is H

[shrewd copper]

juist getting back after away for a few weeks anything new for prots i gotta know?

https://raider.io/characters/us/sargeras/Juntaoswaifu?utm_source=addon

[fringe marten]

When you kill mythic 9..and you get the 252 LEGGINGS..

...now I have a nice pair of legs when I do easy keys with seismic boots. =((((((((

[muted arch]

is piercing lens on eotj still not blockable?

[distant crystal]

just give them away ldo

oh that was an hour ago

yes you can't block shit on eotj except the little winged dudes

[muted arch]

are you still using reprisal leggo

[tame jasper]

Reprisal 😍😍😍

[limpid pawn]

hey

can you use repentence on the big slime in PF

yes/no

[tacit smelt]

turn evil

[mighty valley]

no to repentance, yes to turn evil

making it run around is a little bit sketch but you just gotta move further away

[opal pulsar]

Hey guys how many % of stats do I need to have to be the best prot warrior ? :P

Actualy I have :
17%crit
20%haste
32%masterie
23%vers

[jagged pier]

stats dont matter

its your highest ilvl pieces

thats it

if u have to choose between 2 piece with the same ilvl u always pick the 1 with more haste

[opal pulsar]

humm ok so haste > masterie = vers = crit ?

[mighty valley]

Haste > Vers > Whatever

Unless you’re going for raw dps, then you just sim for your best stats

[rotund thicket]

if i have the blood setboni on t4 should i keep my stygian ember for the t5 push or should i start upgrade the other two dps sockets?

[jagged pier]

rank 4 the highest isnt it?

oh no ignore that i cant count

i would save now till the nerfs

might change the set we want

[rotund thicket]

you think frost could be viable?

[blazing condor]

When will nerfs hit?

[jagged pier]

next week or soon we think

[blazing condor]

Also maybe remains to be seen but will dom sockets > ilvl even after nerfs?

[jagged pier]

and frost is based of crit

so probs not for us

[jagged pier]

yes

the gems arent being nerfed

just the sets

so the gems in m+ are still 📈

[blazing condor]

Ah yeah

Thanku

[fresh elk]

Hey peeps.
New warrior here. Wondering what is the best prot covenant. And which covenant works good for allround, if you like to play tank/pvp thx in advanced.

[river escarp]

Does the last boss of nw do physical or magic dmg on the party? Shield block works on the aoe. I was debating whether or not skipping Soggy would be a good idea

[jagged pier]

ice shards is phyical

[jagged pier]

kyrian

[timber jasper]

Blood set will prob still be the best choice for us even with the nerfs

[jagged pier]

probably but we dont know that until the numbers come out

[mellow bridge]

Ice shards on the tank is physical, the ticking aoe dmg when a shield is up is magical

[safe anvil]

Hi there. I wonder why so many people have the reprisal leggy on their boots and not on their legs, because of the stats. Did I miss something?

[karmic plinth]

during CN people crafted reprisal on boots if they were killing mythic SLG

[safe anvil]

ah ok ty

[short apex]

does anyone have some resources on some good routes for 15-18 keys this week?

[humble ferry]

hmm what do you guys think is better?

[jagged pier]

252

[blazing condor]

More stats > ”right stats”

[humble ferry]

also for +19 +20 keys? losing so much versa with that 252 neck

[jagged pier]

yes

because vers means nothing

[humble ferry]

oki thanks 😄

[orchid frigate]

how do you deal with this?

[blazing condor]

You do world quests in Revendreth

[jagged pier]

i mean u can literally see how much your posting stuff for so his fault for not paying attention

🤷

[orchid frigate]

lel

[blazing condor]

dont hate the player hate the game or something

Something something free market

[jagged pier]

pretty much

[blazing condor]

He’s not doing anything illegal

[orchid frigate]

okie thanks

[jagged pier]

bots will post stuff at lowest as soon as someone undercuts

so hes taking money from bots

just pay attention if your gunna post on the AH and look at what your listing for

[zenith vigil]

The real question is, why ask Prot warriors for advice

We're just dumb meatheads

[zealous spade]

So haste vers items are trash now?

[jagged pier]

as i consistantly say stats dont matter becuase ilvl is all that counts really

[blazing condor]

me after gaining 10 ilvl but losing 3% vers

[jagged pier]

Nome plays with 2%

KEK

[blazing condor]

thats why he isn't top 10 rio

[humble ferry]

so is blood, unholy or frost best for prot (in mythic raid)?

[latent steppe]

the wall or reprisal for kyrian prot warr in 9.1?

[jagged pier]

[jagged pier]

depends on what content

[latent steppe]

m+ focused

[jagged pier]

rep then

[blazing condor]

is mikanikos simming higher than pelagos this week or is it next week

too lazy to sim myself

🙂

[zenith vigil]

I'm so happy this discord has this

[jagged pier]

hes been simming more for a while

[blazing condor]

cheerio

[zenith vigil]

i got around that decision

by going night fae

[jagged pier]

kelia is highest for me as we have her last slot

[steep condor]

Has anyone tried using the second night fae soulbind for tanking? I want to use the first one for raid arms, the third for fury in m+ and was wondering if the second is viable for prot in m+..

The alternative is to just use one of the other two soulbinds and accept that not all of the conduits will be helpful to me as a prot warrior.

[zenith vigil]

you can switch soulbinds easily tho?

[steep condor]

but not the conduits that go in them.

[zenith vigil]

oh

true

[steep condor]

so for example my first soulbind, which is what i would normally use for tanking, has fury conduits (about half are in common with prot, just a couple are different). So am i better off using that soulbind or trying to make the second one work.

[ionic fern]

@sweet summit post your Korayn picture thingy for fury/prot. 👀

[sweet summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/867395104968671262/unknown.png

thats for arms

but same thing

just change CtR for DoI

and it works

[ionic fern]

There you go Doobkut.

[sweet summit]

[tough silo]

https://gyazo.com/78e0e4a9c6e0741e248192d9f893b8f9

🙂

[jagged pier]

i dont see aegis

thats sadge

[tough silo]

it will come eventually!

Why is aegis THAT good?

[jagged pier]

its far better than scale yes

theres a pin about it

[subtle tulip]

Been running some 15s with Nina, tbh it feels good. Was wondering what others thoughts were on this? Or do people mainly stick to the Korayn first strike?

[tough silo]

i see, so eventually you will run Aegis and phial?

[sweet summit]

definitely korayn first strike in m+

[jagged pier]

yes

[subtle tulip]

gotta get that big dps hea ^^

[blazing condor]

14 tries no fallen charger

even after the upped drop chance

[sweet summit]

owned

[blazing condor]

by who

[sweet summit]

bilsard

[blazing condor]

im telling california state

[sweet summit]

uhoh

[jagged pier]

[vocal nimbus]

guys, do we care about the domination shard nerfs?

[sweet summit]

we care

but it doesnt change the prio

[jagged pier]

we care

[subtle tulip]

yesterday I had joined 3 groups that just killed it before I could tag. Feelsbd

[wise rivet]

My trinket choices suck right now.. Quantum device 252 or hook 252? which one is better?

[vocal nimbus]

alright

[blazing condor]

hook

[jagged pier]

hook

[blazing condor]

big dam

[wise rivet]

Oki cool, thanks

[dusky canopy]

I've been running the same setup and I like it

Korayn however is great if youre struggling with snap threat

If using korayn, Ergas* example works great imo that's what I would use

[zenith vigil]

[subtle tulip]

But as long as you go ravager, I feel threat aint a issue. Still got AOE taunt if I got a boomie who is gonna go crazy. And the beef of Niya makes me feel I can just face tank for longer periods. But I get the snap threat of korayn is unlike other.

[zenith vigil]

Nina?

[sweet summit]

its not just for snap threat

[zenith vigil]

do you mean "Niya" ?

[sweet summit]

korayn is just straight up better for damage in m+

like

a lot better

[subtle tulip]

😄

[dusky canopy]

It's is better for damage no denying

[zenith vigil]

niya's "regain 20% hp when falling under 50% every 60s

is kinda dope

no?

[dusky canopy]

Yeah thats what I like about niya

And burs helps boss damage for us

[zenith vigil]

or is that a case of your health goes up and down so much that 20% is irrelevant

[dusky canopy]

I wouldn't say it's irrelevant self healing is self healing and we lack that

[subtle tulip]

Nah I like it blue, but I guess the sentiment is that you lose out on too much DPS in M+ compared to the utility you get from Niya.

[zenith vigil]

so if you're tanking mostly M+ korayn probably better then

[dusky canopy]

If your goal is aoe damage yes

I think burs is our best single target trait option so tyrannical weeks that could prove to be useful

[zenith vigil]

most of the guides say stick to niya

[sweet summit]

Nah

On a lot of bosses you csn prof first strike a lot

Which makes korayn very close/better

[dusky canopy]

Like for me I usually will try to shadowcore/phantom fire every boss that plus being niya, Makes me contribute alot of ST boss damage

Any situation where you can re proc first strike, yeah huge

@sweet summit can we proc first strike on hakkar adds?

[sweet summit]

If you damage them before they damage you yea

[ionic fern]

But my mom always said "Never hit first". 😦

[blazing condor]

Just dodge the first hit swung at you

Techincally it’ll check out

[dusky canopy]

You're telling me there's a reason to heroic throw!

[jagged pier]

bring back gag order

[haughty sleet]

Bring back heroic strike

[modern brook]

Zzzz

[distant crystal]

bring back sexy

[limpid anchor]

If I switch to NF, do I have todo the whole campaign again? Or did smth change with 9.1

[brittle owl]

bring back 2007 🙁

[jagged pier]

if u havent been NF before yes

[limpid anchor]

Zzz guess I stay kyrian:<

[sick sentinel]

why i play(ed) prot warrior:

[blazing condor]

Kinda miss the mop banners tbh

But i wasnt good enough to know if they were even worth

But they felt fun

[ancient cosmos]

Finally swapped to Kyrian, le'sigh, here we go!

[crystal iris]

Does anyone know how old warriors soul trinket works? It takes a long time to ramp up, but sims tell me its still best option in M+, wouldnt the buff drop off in between combat?

[jagged pier]

it really strong for m+

it take 15 secs to fall off

if u take longer betweenpacks i dunno what your doign

[crystal iris]

Thats what I was wondering about, the drop off time

havent been able to decide between that at a normal level and some 252 wrist piece in my vault

[craggy pilot]

fuck this week is horrible :<

just did NW and Shaman insisted on pulling big start

[crystal iris]

pit fighters vambraces

[craggy pilot]

so he pull 3 packs and they bolster up the fking Vanguard :<

Stitched Vanguard with 9 bolster 1 shotting everyone 😄

[blazing condor]

Bolstering is ass period

Artificially slowing down dungeons

[limpid anchor]

Does the wrist have a Dom socket? Otherwise an easy choice :D

[crystal iris]

nope its dungeon gear

[crystal iris]

The problem is I dont heroic Raid a Ton and almost never mythic raid so GV 252 dungeon gear is the highest ill get

not sure if heroic wrists with dom socket are better than 252s if im not using the set bonus in M+

[limpid anchor]

Yea it is

Well, you can sim it yourself

[craggy pilot]

wtf quaking in last boss Sanguine hahahaha

fucking hell

it lined up with gloom squail 3 times

[blazing condor]

Best quaking is taking the birds upstairs for NW then having it proc ass everyone is dropped down onto eachother

[craggy pilot]

a 5 stack of quaking one shots everyone?

[strong forum]

a 3 stack quaking already does

[craggy pilot]

we had 2 people die in last boss sanguine twice, because they didnt go in the zone

[strong forum]

actually need a 4 stack

since its 40% on 2 80% on 3

[craggy pilot]

the zone reduces the quaking dmg maybe?

[strong forum]

no it doesnt

[craggy pilot]

lol, so cant stack in it because of quaking?

[strong forum]

🙂

[craggy pilot]

so you just have to have 2 people die if it lines up?

[strong forum]

wait

sanguine depths

[craggy pilot]

the Khaal blow up thing

[strong forum]

that aegis works

yes

[craggy pilot]

that u pop the zone for

ah ok

[strong forum]

its all dmg reduction

[craggy pilot]

so healer was just dumb for not going in with quaking

[distant crystal]

You can also spread around the edges of the circle and reduce overlap

cause I think a 4x quake + the gloom dmg is gonna kill you through the dome

[tawdry dirge]

What anima powers u use basicly in m+ now

I kinda Like the one that standing still boost your armor and dmg... But in the guide its not mentioned

[jagged pier]

yer because barbs is better

[tawdry dirge]

Dmg wise?

[strong forum]

barbs is a free 400 dps

[jagged pier]

yes

[strong forum]

consistently

[jagged pier]

i dont know about u but i dont stand still

like ever

[last gust]

https://www.tanknotes.com/mythic-plus/season-2-tormented

[strong forum]

standing still boost isnt REMOTELY consistent

[jagged pier]

im always adjusting position and stuff

[tawdry dirge]

I stand still quite often but yeah ofc not constandly

Thx for the link

[opal zealot]

why Prot has over 6% value from Windfury Totem?

[strong forum]

devastator

[jagged pier]

because melee is strong

[modern brook]

We atk

[jagged pier]

[blazing condor]

Thing with the stand still thing is that it goes back to full stacks in like a second or so

So as long as you stand still you should have it up most of the time in cb

But i havent used it enough to see the numbers

[urban portal]

it literally says 3 seconds to stack up

idk how you are getting it in 1 second

[modern brook]

on the grand scale of infinity, 3seconds is roughly the same as 1 second

[urban portal]

true

[modern brook]

like if you begin your log at the dawn of the universe

[urban portal]

as lim x->inf , 1/x=3/x

[tropic linden]

Is it worth to use heroic gear (239) instead of a 249 gear just for the set bonus? And on M+? Is it worth for the buffs from Dom. Shards?

[modern brook]

in raid yes set bonus is poggers

at least until nerfs roll it where it'll only be pog

in m+ you want the damage ones and the frost defensive one idr the name of cause they made sure this system is as forgettable as possible

and yes its worth dropping ilvl for in m+ too

[tropic linden]

Thanks. Hate to recraft my leggo...

[modern brook]

reprisal should be on thighs anyways

[tropic linden]

At least this one stays

[timber cloud]

Yo any idea why Heavy Repercussions is simming higher than AM? Kinda wild

I'm guessing the 3 rage + higher SB uptime which leads to 30% increase on shield slam dam might be enough, but higher avatar uptime with AM just seems like it should be better

[modern brook]

link

[timber cloud]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ecxLC1gsZzk1t8EoHXoVPS

[craggy pilot]

i was told Booming Voice was better in ST as well, so seems something weird is up with this sim

[timber cloud]

Exactly

Unless we are hitting haste points that allow us to spam revenge on global... which already feels like we can

[craggy pilot]

are there any good DPS trinkets that also work for tanking? Similar to Stone Legion Heraldry in CN?
other than the Sylv trinket ofc

[modern brook]

well a) the sims only dps

thats why its telling you NF and BSC are better

b) its single target

[strong forum]

Do you have WFT in your raid?

@timber cloud

Cuz that might skew in HR favour

[modern brook]

I was getting there nom 😠

[urban portal]

hahahahaha

i put my spec in prot for fun

and got this

is this any good for bad tanks

[craggy pilot]

https://www.wowhead.com/protection-warrior-gear-guide#throughput-defensive-trinkets

[timber cloud]

@strong forum good point, I do not. Lemme resim

[craggy pilot]

its A- scored here, so pretty good

[urban portal]

its not on use

so hell ye

[amber herald]

it's something like 400dps/hps

[strong forum]

You're also not simming BV at all Gethrag

[amber herald]

in m+ anyway

[strong forum]

You were only simming BSC

[urban portal]

400 hps sounds pretty good to me

[amber herald]

it's more like 300-400 I believe

[strong forum]

@timber cloud

[amber herald]

but still very good

[timber cloud]

Yep, just noticed too

I'm coming after Sense's parses on our heroic clear today hehe

[craggy pilot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3DVcBJk9Y6RGwLdYAkjmAw
mine also says HR with BV and WFT

[timber cloud]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9gnzauKKtAcaxBYWydtoEq

highest kyrian sim for me here has HR and BSC very close to the standard options. no windfury hmm

[strong forum]

Hm weird

[craggy pilot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/prXeH3B54Nq1ZmHND7hHUS
even with no WFT HR sims higher for me

[strong forum]

Find it hard to believe that 3 more rage and a few% more SB uptime are more dmg than getting 2x as many avatars lining up with every BV

But weird

[craggy pilot]

oh wait im simming Ravager

[sweet summit]

sir, its 15 dps, but yea

[craggy pilot]

15dps pog

[strong forum]

Haven't looked at the exact dps

[craggy pilot]

need to squeeze every inch 😄

[strong forum]

But this is counting ideal scenario

So HR is by no means actually as good

[cinder roost]

@timber cloud Come after me bro I had a few good ones yesterday still some bosses that are annoying to parses though...

I delayed my CDs for so long on Soulrender just to use them just before last adds spawn like a failure

And Tarrague when your guild don't have time for rerolling Anima

[timber cloud]

If I don't beat you today I'm coming with a vengeance next week when I'm back to NF

heh

Yeah tarragrue super high variance... sucks to have to get antistun in mythic

[cinder roost]

I got my Blood Link R3 > R4 after the raid, wished I could have done with it

[timber cloud]

It looks like 3pc Unholy is still the play for dps maxing

[strong forum]

For now

But high chance that after the nerf that it will still be best

[cinder roost]

Oh yeah? Rip, I have Unholy but R1

I still prefer Blood I think

[strong forum]

For tanks bloodlink will be better

Still

If the nerf is really gonna be 50%for unholy and 40% for blood

It's ahead of unholy right now by like 50-100 dps

And unholy is getting nerfed more

[jagged pier]

LETS GOOOOOOOOO

[strong forum]

So bloodlink will highly likely still be the go-to set for tanks

[sweet summit]

LETSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[cinder roost]

I should really do some PF...

Gz 🙂

@timber cloud Do you have WFT in your raid?

[timber cloud]

Nope... did I accidentally include it again? @cinder roost

[cinder roost]

No no, was just wondering for your run 🙂

I don't have it either sadly

[timber cloud]

[gray crest]

Hey tanks. I want to start up retail again (poor timing tho) and want to tank. Not looking for the easiest class but looking for fun/challenge. Is warrior my best bet? Are you having fun tanking?

[distant crystal]

pink prot if you want a challenge 😄

[jagged pier]

u need a blood set to get that now

[modern brook]

I would suggest looking up videos of end game content from the pov of different tanks for this decision

If you come to the prot warrior discord asking if we like prot warrior the answer will be yes

[zenith vigil]

Well the answer could be no we hate it but we can't leave

[carmine rain]

we are all stuck on our warriors because we dont want to farm up dom sockets again on an alt lol

[modern brook]

I mean if we're being honest just quit

If ur stuck

[lucid steppe]

item question... got 252 neck from remnant mythic. wearing 230 crafted neck (haste/vers). cant buy socket at the emoment ... do i still wear crafted?

[jagged pier]

no

more stats > less better stats

but that neck is dogshit

so feelycrafty i guess

if it had haste on it

u would change 100%

[lucid steppe]

mhmm unlucky i guess^^

[jagged pier]

well u can equip it and see how u feel

like that crit is pretty good for dps and m+ for parries

[blazing condor]

blood sims highest dps right

not just survivability

[modern brook]

Ngl

Never noticed the difference between a single none legendary item swap that wasn't a weapon or shield

[jagged pier]

yes is sims highest

[blazing condor]

ty 🙂

[limpid pawn]

is torghast supposed to give renown

im doing laye r9 didn't get any

[jagged pier]

dont think so

[distant crystal]

it can now

but it's catchup, rng

[limpid pawn]

catchup is bad

[distant crystal]

i'm more of a mayo fan myself

[blazing condor]

😳

[limpid pawn]

swapping covs shoulnd't be this punishing

[modern brook]

dont swap then :^)

[limpid pawn]

at 70 renown levels its unreasonable pretty mcuh

they either need to reward 3+ renown per quest

or something else drastic

[modern brook]

IDK man "shadowlands has shit systems" is a brave stance

[sick sentinel]

is there any other weapon mog that goes on the back like TF?

[modern brook]

artifact weapon's sword does

IDK if all do, but at least the default one

[sick sentinel]

is prot warrior easy to play?

mostly for keys

[mighty valley]

It's not one of the easiest tanks but most of doing keys well is knowing all the mobs and pulls etc

[sick sentinel]

feels like S2 routes are much easier than S1

[strong forum]

Routing is defo easier

[sick sentinel]

are there different routes for ty/fort, and affixes?? or is it pretty much the same every week

[strong forum]

But pwar is one of the more challenging tanks to play

[strong forum]

Not enough testing yet

[blazing condor]

yoo actually got a piece of loot today

1 piece in like 20 bosses

[timber cloud]

@modern brook WoD CM sword does this, in case you have that unlocked. I think a number of WoTLK weapons also sheathe on back

[strong forum]

Pwar artifact raid skin also does

The one that looks like an axe

Sheaths on the pack

[cinder fern]

KT sword from Sanctum can as well, no?

[distant crystal]

renown grind isn't even punishing

the delay/betrayer status is the pits tho

[sick sentinel]

Yea waiting for a reset kinda sucks

[zenith vigil]

what makes you say this

[amber herald]

can the dps pull slobberdong when they're pulled down during the xav fight?

[jagged pier]

thinking should i get a pikachu avatar 🤔

[wild hemlock]

leave pika avis for the one and only IMO

[junior ivy]

@strong forum

[strong forum]

Because it just is?

Entirely proactive and not at all forgiving

[strong forum]

Hello cat

[junior ivy]

How are you

[strong forum]

Pretty good tbh, how's life

[zenith vigil]

well yes

that's why i asked

[strong forum]

Oh I thought you were just being rude, my bad

But it's is pretty much agreed upon that pwar is on the harder side of the tank spectrum because our entire mitigation tool is built around reducing damage instead of healing it in any way.

So you're much more prone to dying to mistakes because you can't do anything to help yourself after the fact.

Aswell as a very involved rotation that revolves around using our resources effectively

In terms of wow ofc specs aren't hard hard, but in the grand scheme of wow things there are a few more things to do on a warrior to be performing "well enough"

[zenith vigil]

for sure

its just before 9.1 last time i played warr was 8.3

where we were gods

[stark sage]

the philosophy of prot hasnt changed, the spec has pretty much always been about proactive mitigation
and by nature that style is harder to play

like nome said, if you mess up, its very hard to come back

[distant crystal]

just press shield wall when you're at 5% hp!

that's what i do

[zenith vigil]

well i just got a scale off m0 and i dont plan on raiding so

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[blazing condor]

tfw only plate in raid group

Can you position KT for the tank ads any way?

or are they all spawning random

[sweet summit]

random in the set locations

[blazing condor]

the pillars?

[sweet summit]

pillars?

[blazing condor]

the mf uh

yeah pillars

beams

idk

i think i get waht you mean though so ty

[sweet summit]

i think the set locations are something like this

and its random which three are used

[blazing condor]

thanks!

[fringe marten]

Can you click the engineering button in the slime river area in mechagon, in De Other Side while invis and not break invis?

Gonna start adopting the 'invis through the crappy part of mechagon' route

[strong forum]

Na

You have to click it first

Then invis