protection

[blazing condor]

252 AFE in vault

Cant really complain

[sweet summit]

we take those

[blazing condor]

Scale last week and afe this week

Trinket season bois

However i didnt take scale

[fringe marten]

ok..so the 239 dom glove then?

[tall walrus]

yeah gonna probably go with that, ain't that bad for arms that I sometimes play with

[fringe marten]

Rodgort you obviously take what you feel is better but if you aren't that progressive of a guild I'd think heroic dom gloves would be a good pickup. A rank 3 Cor gem, or Dyz..or Kyr..etc JUST THE ONE GEM in that glove, will absolutely shame any 252 item.

[fringe marten]

252 glove~ etc.

[ionic fern]

[blazing condor]

Poor mwahi

[fringe marten]

my 220 scale has been benched for my Annhylde's aegis.

226 aegis

[blazing condor]

looking for that aegis too

[fringe marten]

if I had a 252 scale..it would be benched, for the 226 aegis.

We did our heroic reclear up to sylv again

Guess who got..NO LOOT AGAIN..except the 1 item I gave away to the loot council.

[tawdry dirge]

when is it that we switch to mika

in 2 weeks?

[blazing condor]

loot council

[fringe marten]

Remnant chest? nope..any more dom armor? nope..heroic aegis? nope.. we did mythic terragrue too..guess who got a shield? the arms warrior who's loot spec was still set to prot. OMFG

[ionic fern]

We all agreed to do it together on the 23'rd of July at 22.00 CET

[fringe marten]

I already did it.

[blazing condor]

Oh CET thanks thought it was EST

[tawdry dirge]

haha nice 😄

[winged wind]

Do you have any tips for Guardian of the first one, I feel that he literally destroys me with his white hits even with sb up. we play double prot warrior at the moment do you think it makes sense to swap to maximise sb uptime of both tanks?

[fringe marten]

If you're gonna' be forced to play with bron..do it now..get used to it. It's already super competitive if nto better than pelagos anyway.

Bloodmallet has mika ahead of pelagos @renown 51 right now.

[ionic fern]

For Kyrian Mika is the best as far as DPS goes.

O hei, the profile update went through.

[fringe marten]

Yeah, so ...dump pelagos now stop chasing balls...deal with having cancerous conduit sockets, but amazing passives...then in like 2 weeks or whatever...fully Ascend.

[tawdry dirge]

and what tree you guys use on mika?

[fringe marten]

You are kinda' forced down a path..

You can really only get away with forgelite filter..in raids. So in keys you kinda' have to take charged additive side

in raids I tried the 'free repair' conduit..? I dunno how much gold it saved me?

but in keys you're gonna' use the wing...and rarely EVER see it proc, but sometimes.

Hammer of genesis is a chunk of the reason Mik is good, and is better than the other choices by a lot.

[tawdry dirge]

but is it worth the hammer in raids?

cause its only "new" targets

[tacit bay]

Is the consensus that Blood set bonus is still the best?

[fringe marten]

..what else are you gonna' take?

Yeah there are

spiked balls..

adds

ghost adds

[ionic fern]

No but all the other things are bad worse.

[fringe marten]

etc etc

But yes, it's because the other 2 choices are dookey

[ionic fern]

Yes.

Unholy is not too far behind tho.
Frost is in the dirt.

[sweet summit]

tuning when

[ionic fern]

Never.

[sweet summit]

make frost great again

[ionic fern]

They first gotta tune the other 50 borrowed powers.

[fringe marten]

But yes, there are adds in raid fights you get to fight OFTEN so you get more uptime than you think. And then it's the choice of "legit damage conduit" "kinda jank defense conduit"

[sweet summit]

ye u right mb

[fringe marten]

The last 2 paths of the tree are the only time you get to really make a choice with mikanikos. Other than "free repairs during raid"

Has anyone used Regenerating materials enough to know if it fully negates the need to repair during raids?

[tawdry dirge]

fair play thanks

[fringe marten]

Does anyone know exactly how Pelagos's capstone ability actually works?

[tawdry dirge]

so for raids i can go along with that

[fringe marten]

yeah

[ionic fern]

I wouldn't use Ashen tbh..just take adaptive instead. 👀

[winged wind]

during progress, no. during farm and m+, mostly.

[fringe marten]

for M+ use the top right side, and the wing...and ? try the defense if you want? But yeah use Armor frag instead of ashen.

Moonsorrow why wouldn't you use it during prog? like ..are you jumping off ledges in prog to trigger the wing?

[tawdry dirge]

really thought adaptive sucks too 😄

[fringe marten]

Or are you a terrible person who uses kleia?

[ionic fern]

All our Potencies suck except for Kyrian/NF/NL specific ones. 🙂
Adaptive/SoF just suck slightly less than Ashen.

[fringe marten]

Adap armor frag is not? 'powerful' but it's uptime is insane..so it's just a nice little passive boost, and also gives a tiny bit of armor due to the str boost.

[cinder nova]

🤔 No Ashen? Why?

[sweet summit]

he just said why

[fringe marten]

I think AAF sims better overall?

[sweet summit]

[cinder nova]

Like, yeah, but it does sim higher in ST (at least for me atm)

[tawdry dirge]

ahh nice yeah didnt think on armor boost too

[fringe marten]

HOWEVER; that being said...if you are on Kel'Thuzad, Ashen Jugg FTW.

[ionic fern]

Remember that sims don't simulate movement/mechanics etc.
In real scenarios you can easily lose the Ashen buff due to movement/rage requirements etc.

[cinder nova]

idk I only lose the buff if I legit just do something stupid

[fringe marten]

Or mechanics..like "You HAVE to get out of the raid or we blow up.. " "BUT EXECUTE?! BRUUuhhh"

[cinder nova]

As soon as 20% rolls up on most bosses I'm full uptime on Jugg

[fringe marten]

Yeah but the other 80% of the fight adaptive was up nearly the entire time giving you more damage.

[cinder nova]

Um.

Not if it sims less?

[fringe marten]

Oh jaycore..

[ionic fern]

If you can keep it up, go for it, no one's stopping you.
Fact is the DPS gain/difference between the two is w/e. Adaptive is just easier to manage.

[tawdry dirge]

aye?

[woven bear]

Hmm any comments to my vault post from above :(?

[fringe marten]

Condensed anima sphere is the "this must always be available" defensive node in Mik

Top center

Put stalwart guardian top right

[winged wind]

I mean it still saves you lots of costs but you'll have some repair costs

[tawdry dirge]

allright

[fringe marten]

since that's the M+ side really.

and if you need the CD on wall in raid..just run that side.

The loss on Aadaptive frag is..whatev, you can live with that.

if you 'need' the cd reduction on shield wall.

[tawdry dirge]

tbf i personally putshield wall reduction always higher then UF

[ionic fern]

Sorry, slipped past me.
This raid has solid trinkets so you'll be replacing Scale anyways with Warriors Soul / Aegis / Matrix.
Take the Wrists for dom socket.

[fringe marten]

Thank GOD I got my..Fueled by Violence 252 conduit from tarragrue though..man been DYING for that~ SO glad the arms warrior got a shield.

[woven bear]

@ionic fern I already have the hc aegis

[fringe marten]

shut yo mouf!

[ionic fern]

Still the wrists. 😉

[tawdry dirge]

Fueled sucks i thought

[fringe marten]

Dom sockets are really strong

[ionic fern]

It does.

[fringe marten]

like..you want 'em..now.

[woven bear]

😄 I also have the "cheat" death trinket from kael, but it's shit I guess

[tawdry dirge]

fair

[fringe marten]

Jaycore that was pure sarcasm man..I was begging for 252 shield drop and got a conduit that's dog~

Styx no shard of alar is amazing.

[tawdry dirge]

i am bad on sarcasm like sheldon cooper 😄

[ionic fern]

Just to make it clear:

The only Conduits you care about are..

Potency:
Piercing Verdict / Destructive Reverberation / Veterans Repute
Adaptive Armor Fragment
Show of Force

Endurance:
Stalwart Guardian
Unnerving Focus
Condensed Anima Sphere

Finesse:
Inspiring Presence
Safeguard

The rest might as well be deleted from the game. 🙂

[fringe marten]

The cheat trinket from Fate scribe had ONE very cool specific use; it's been patched...GG that trinket.

Condensed Sphere is the best defense conduit; followed by stalwart IMO..then unnerving.

[tawdry dirge]

tthats amazing thanks m8

we got something like that for trinkets too?

😄

[woven bear]

@fringe marten the alar shard is amazing, the new one isn't 😄

[fringe marten]

I had a tiny bit of hope for running rumbling earth, and combining it with the conduit for reducing shockwave. It IS nice and shockwave gets down to 17 seconds.. but Reprisal 100% absolutely killed that dream.

yeah you said.."I have the cheat death trinket from kael but it's shit I guess?"

[ionic fern]

From raid:
Aegis
Warriors Soul
Matrix

From m+:
Phial of Putrification
Scale
Anima Field Emitter

@tawdry dirge

Maybe i forgot something.

[peak iron]

Good stuff man!
Thxs!

[fringe marten]

The only ONLY thing about mikanikos tree that makes me so sad is ..his actual conduit slots. WHY does the top potency slot have to be linked to a skill that actively kinda' screws you over?

[woven bear]

@fringe marten kel'thuzad ;D my bad. there are too many k(a)el* guys in the game

[tawdry dirge]

Thank you sir you are great 👍

[fringe marten]

oh LOL..dude shard of alar is from...Kael'thas~ LOL

[woven bear]

@fringe marten yeah, the one I meant is from kel'thuzard, the other cheat death is from kael'thas 😄

[cinder nova]

Ticking Sack

[fringe marten]

Ticking sack sims high, it's solid for dps.

[woven bear]

@ionic fern Maybe the crit trinket from the new mega dungeon?

[tawdry dirge]

Agree thats why i like pela

[fringe marten]

but it doesn't beat phial/etc

[cinder nova]

It does.

It beats Phial every time.

In ST.

Like, I've never parsed a 99 where it hasn't dunked on my 226 Phial

[fringe marten]

Right now pelagos is competitive with mikanikos, but that's assuming you're chasing balls~ F that. Mikanikos actually sims higher for dps, and once we hit 57 we're hard locked into mikanikos anyway. So? Why not just change now...and be used to it. It's already better anyway

Oh mwahi there is a trinket you're forgetting

[jagged pier]

mik is higher dps now

[fringe marten]

For raiding; the 233 Codex of the first technique is actually REAL good.

[woven bear]

@ionic fern If I take the wrists, I only have the leech socket to put in, so I'm wondering if it's even worth to put that in

[fringe marten]

I wouldn't say it's always fantastic, but more than 50% of the time...it's better than most other trinkets. IN RAID specifically, heroic+

[tawdry dirge]

Lol i am far away from grinding 233 items

Can only do 220 yet

[fringe marten]

In situations where the mobs unmitigated damage numbers are very high, the 10% reflect seems to take that into consideration..so if you get average to above average procs on it..it sims VERY high offensively and defensively.

[bold bolt]

i guess i take the ring?

[fringe marten]

I think on our prog kill on guardian heroic, it was my 4th damage source, and 3rd ? or 4th healing source (however much it damage it heals too)

[jagged pier]

depends what ilvl that shield is

[bold bolt]

226 just the normal version

[empty spindle]

What’s the best trinkets to run for M+

[tawdry dirge]

Scale

[cinder nova]

No, Aegis.

Aegis shears 6K+ damage off every swing coming from the front for 8s, it's basically made for M+.

BSS is arguably better for raid since it's big soaks where we have huge unblockable tank busters like M Eye Deathlink

Or Solo oblits in H Guard

Aegis is really only if you need the defensive value, though

[fringe marten]

Aegis/Scale/Warrior Soul (breaks invis pots currently MFKER~) Phial/Howling Decanter..whatever you want as your passive damage trinky.

But the aegis is legit like a 90sec defensive CD for keys..it's stronk~

[cinder nova]

Also pretty sure it's also uncapped

where BSS is capped

[fringe marten]

and like..Scale and codex of first technique would be a more defensively oriented setup..but codex ends up looking like a mythic sludge spike at the end of a dungeon; not fantastic..but ok.

[cinder nova]

So for seriously mongo huge pulls like the open on HOA or triple-pulling in SD

It just gets so much value

[empty spindle]

Hopefully I get it tonight haha

[sterile sedge]

On which slot should i craft Reprisal? or is it we

[sweet summit]

legs

[errant leaf]

Isnt codex bugged ?

[sweet summit]

which codex

[errant leaf]

Codex of first technique

From tazavesh

[sweet summit]

not that im aware of

[errant leaf]

Ppl say that it pulls mobs from far away

[jolly wasp]

Not sure if im Just blind and cant find info about It, but what domination shards should we go for? Blood or uh?

[sweet summit]

blood set

its in the pins down there somwhere

[jolly wasp]

Ok im blind

Thanks

[sterile sedge]

@sweet summit thank you

[jolly wasp]

Imagine having 1 Blood shard after 3 full clears 😢

[sweet summit]

[jagged pier]

u get one from slyvannas now though if u dont have them all

[jolly wasp]

Ye got a UH one

Sadge

[jagged pier]

uh aint that bad

[ionic fern]

9.1 cheatsheet when

[sweet summit]

true

[jolly wasp]

Even got the helm from heroic sylvanas kek

[sweet summit]

KT* :v)

[jolly wasp]

Ye kt sry

[ionic fern]

Kul'Tiran.

Yes?

[sweet summit]

wrong

dwarf

[indigo pagoda]

hi everyone, I'm returning to prot after not having tanked since legion. am in a rush to gear it so i have a choice of one legendary to craft soon as, should it be the wall or reprisal? mainly given the fact i'm still learning the rotation etc

[ionic fern]

Reprisal.

[indigo pagoda]

ty

[ionic fern]

👍

[indigo pagoda]

it's not difficult to manage/use?

[wide pilot]

What does the ehrps stand for under the damage taken tab

[bright flax]

Hey I got a 252 shield last week. Now this week, what to do with GV? Open as fury?

[mellow bridge]

Effective healing required per second

Basically how much did your healers need to heal you

[crude tartan]

Pelagos still the play for soulbind until Mikanikos at 57?

[strong forum]

That's what I'm doing, ye

I don't see bron as a dps upgrade yet

Dude does like 40dps over a dungeon

[wide pilot]

Thx

[ionic fern]

It can be if you want to min-max but in the beginning it's enough if you just Charge in (which you do anyways) and try to Intervene a melee player mid combat.

[indigo pagoda]

cheers

[ivory elbow]

Good ring or bin it?

[sweet summit]

its really really good

[ivory elbow]

Pog

[mellow bridge]

that has to be a humblebrag

👀

[ivory elbow]

It was but i wanted to be nice 🤣

[mellow bridge]

😩

[jagged pier]

well its not from vault or raid but it will do for now

[ivory elbow]

Hmm did i post my weapon from last week with hast and versa

But i am confused with this domination thing i read it twice and i still dont understand

I dont raid but i got a shard or something last night it Said 30 leech

[ionic fern]

Wdym?
You get gear with Domination sockets:
Head/Shoulders/Chest/Wrists/Gloves

You can socket Domination Gems in them with special effects.
If you get 3 of the same type of gems you get a "set bonus" in some specific areas (Maw,Torghast,SoD).

The stuff drops from Sanctum of Domination and also from the new world boss.

Enjoy it while it lasts as it'll probably be binned when the next raid comes.

[ivory elbow]

Next raid kek maybe 9 months later

[ionic fern]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/shards-of-domination-guide-for-shadowlands-patch-9-1

[ivory elbow]

Hmm so the gems are sepperate drop

[crimson furnace]

guys, top 3 endurance conduits??

i just got renowned 51

[ivory elbow]

I did read that one i was a bit confused what you wrote kinda explained it better 🤣

[ionic fern]

Stalwart/Unnerving/Condensed

[crimson furnace]

pog

ty

[ionic fern]

Yes, but also from the raid (and the new WB).

[ivory elbow]

Well i am gonna need raid gear so i can put my domination socket yeah

[ionic fern]

Jep.

[ivory elbow]

And if i dont raid i am coooked

[ionic fern]

Blizzard's way of saying "We know you like m+ but sucks to be you".

Just give me Dom gear if i only do m+ but like..idk a +20 key.

[obsidian girder]

Recommended to intervene active tank ?

[ionic fern]

You can unless there's some mechanics coming.
There are probably enough melee DPS'ers around anyways to do it more safely.

[obsidian girder]

Okay. Maintank today abscend and have to tank sylvanas

[ivory elbow]

Well then seasonal fuck you in the ass from blizzard nothing new and then they wonder why they lost 2 mill players in 5 months

[inland raft]

Critical blocks should stop a stack of necrotic from applying change my mind

[ionic fern]

That's a weird take.

Gnomes and Goblins should get hit less as they are so tiny.

[dusky mica]

Critical blocks should reflect damage.

[ionic fern]

Taurens and Draenei should get increased movement speed on grass since they have hooves.

[tame jasper]

262 reprisal ❤️

[ionic fern]

210 Reprisal.

❤️

[dusky mica]

Trolls too, they're always on the grass

mon

[deft vessel]

my first vault this season, woo, great, fantastic

I'm so glad I'm still using 213 trinkets and shield, and only get junk, from everywhere in the game

[sweet summit]

at least two dom slots

[deft vessel]

I don't know what to get out of those two either, I have no domination gems (because again, fuck me for getting items from the content I do)

it's like, a straight up completely junk vault

I guess I get the shoulders

[ionic fern]

100% your fault for setting your expectations too high.

[deft vessel]

yeah okay, fair

[ionic fern]

But jeah, shoulders.

[deft vessel]

yeah, took the shoulders

just a bummer

farm TOP/MISTS for shield, nothin, do raid, nothin, weekly last week gave me the ankh trinket

[ionic fern]

😦

[deft vessel]

also no shards, not from world boss, not from raid

I don't even know if they can drop anywhere else

[ionic fern]

If it makes you feel any better all i'm getting from Mythic+ are the DPS conduits.

[deft vessel]

nah, I don't get joy from others' misfortune, even if it's the same as mine

i did get this from the raid! wooo drops

I still don't understand why that soulbind is as bad as it is

like, buff it to be reasonable in AoE, to do anything really

reward heavy (proper) use of revenge in m+

beyond just the damage that is

[sweet summit]

bring back iron maiden

[deft vessel]

what was iron maiden? got removed between PTR and Live right?

[ionic fern]

Iron Maiden too good, lets remove it
Introduces Reprisal.

[jagged pier]

it gave revenge a chance to reset SB cd

[sweet summit]

revenge had an x% chance to give a charge of SB

[deft vessel]

shit tho give me more stuff like reprisal, something that is good if I actively use it it's fun, engaging, strong, that's what a damn gameplay-adjusting legendary should be

[deft vessel]

awww, that would've been cool dang

cus you still would need the rage to cast, so not that out of whack, especially with the lowered proc rate of revenge in the first place

[ionic fern]

Jeh, charging into a new pack with Reprisal + the DR anima power at the beginning of each pull is like "Guess i'm immortal".

[deft vessel]

DR is the defense at start of combat one right?

the shields around you (I haven't really memorized the names yet)

[sweet summit]

yeah

well, DR there stands for damage reduction

idk what its actually called

[deft vessel]

fair enough

[steel locust]

I was on vacation this week and only able to squeeze in one m+ Key

[tame jasper]

same for me, asking myself why id id almost 30 m+ 😄

but small upgrade on belt at least

[gleaming oak]

I am new to prot and kinda tight on gold I was thining of crafting Reprisal first but then i saw the wall. My focus would be M+ i was wondering which should i craft first?

[sweet summit]

reprisal is pretty much always better than the wall in m+

if you cant afford the higher ranks yet, just stick to a lower rank one

its the effect we want, the ilvl is just a good bonus

[ionic fern]

^

I'm still rocking a 210 Reprisal.

[lucid pasture]

for raid, which bosses are best for the wall

[jade tartan]

if u use the intervene conduit. do you still take the meele hits or do you only reduce the dmg taken by 15?

[lucid pasture]

othjer than eye

[jade tartan]

14%

[mellow bridge]

you still take the melees

[sweet summit]

You take the hits

[mellow bridge]

but you reduce everything else that hits em

[sweet summit]

Person also get x% dr

[mellow bridge]

eye and potentially/probably sylv

[chrome falcon]

holy fuck, a 252 scale's max shield is 82k hp

what in the goddamn

[sweet summit]

Yeah thats alright 👀

[errant widget]

How much am I hurting myself in the long run by taking that juicy helm, as I know it's a dom socket slot. Currently have 0 dom sockets, but know I can get those shoulders in the next few resets. Neck is tempting as I have 239 from raid, but it's heavy mastery/light haste.

Kind of frustrated really as last week it was 252 Haste/Vers legs, which only see action when not wearing Reprisal.

[fallow cape]

i have the same helm in my vault, im probably gonna take a crit/haste ring instead cause i know ill replace the helm with domination gear sooner or later

[mellow bridge]

just take the neck and call it a day

it's your bis dungeon neck

[gloomy cradle]

^

[chrome falcon]

@errant widget you'll wear that neck until 9.2 just take it

[errant widget]

Yeah, fair enough. Cheers guys!

[sweet summit]

^

Sin stainedowns giga hard

Until maybe mythic KT neck

[chrome falcon]

help me out gang

i have already the signet and the emitter at 236

[fallow cape]

id probably take the ring i think?

[errant widget]

Using the same logic as above, the ring?

[sweet summit]

Id take ring personally

[mellow bridge]

ring for sure

[chrome falcon]

yuh i guess

226 weapon, shield, chest, helmet, shoulder life continues 🙃

[mellow bridge]

my only usable pick today were shoulders without a dom socket

which i will replace very soon probably

🤷‍♂️

vault sucks

[sweet summit]

I finally replaced my 220 heroic sire one hander yesterday xd

Rough times

[fading dirge]

For tanking review pointers. Better to drop logs here or in the review channel?

[ionic fern]

Generally try review channel first but if no one is biting there try here.

[jagged pier]

when a shard is better than a conduit 😦

[ionic fern]

Conduits
Lackluster

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-ryan-reynolds-shocked-shocking-omg-gif-13199849

[ivory elbow]

Wait that Neck with haste and versa

Which dungeon drops that

Nvm it was the helmet

[cedar spear]

Tazavesh has a haste vers neck, so let's look forward to that entering the loot pool

[tame jasper]

The Tazavesh Quest Neck is haste/mastery

[sweet summit]

But a boss drop is haste vers

[tame jasper]

ah there I see it

[tropic gorge]

I've been farming a sword and shield for 2 weeks now. 0 luck. My vault gave me a belt. *woo

[mellow bridge]

accretion is the absorb shard?

[sweet summit]

Yeah

[mellow bridge]

imagine looting shards

👀

[strong forum]

Tfw a racial is better than both

In SD 15 it did 450k absorb for free :)

[scenic knot]

mechagnome says hi

[strong forum]

Pah, mechagnome, get a load of this guy

[tame jasper]

still missing the frost shard

and the leech shard vfrom WB

[scenic knot]

btw i can't see the shard in that pic

am I blind or something?

[mellow bridge]

I have 3 shards in total after 3 full raid clears

and not even 3 of the same kind for a bonus

[strong forum]

Accretion

[scenic knot]

oh shit, that isnt Kyrian related?

nice

never even touched the kyrians, so I have no idea about their soulbinds

[scenic knot]

but is that a single shard or a set bonus?

[ionic fern]

Single shard.

[jovial steeple]

Does kyrian potion works on any Debuff in raid?

[ionic fern]

Iirc it's the Frost one that provides you the absorb shield.
Right @sweet summit ?

Crap

Not Erga

@jagged pier

[sweet summit]

Yea

Cor

I think

[jagged pier]

kyr

[sweet summit]

Close

[ionic fern]

Both 3 letter words.

🤷

[sweet summit]

1/3 letterd correct

We tske those

[obtuse monolith]

They’re all 3 letters

[scenic knot]

Damn.... and to make matters worse, I'm all out of conduit energy playing all 3 specs in NF... I can barely change conduits now

[ionic fern]

Why.,.are you swapping in NF?

[scenic knot]

Nyia for dps prog, Korayn for M+

same applies for prot war (I gotta pump those 5-6k overalls as prot, otherwise why am I even playing it)

but you gotta change conduits all the time....

[sweet summit]

Not really

[scenic knot]

Can you elaborate?

[north rampart]

Now that soul ash is no longer an issue and I can play around with some more leggos, how gimped is seismic reverb/thunderlords in m+?

[strong forum]

You can make 2 paths in niya for raid

Without having to swap conduits

Probably the same for korayn

[sweet summit]

you could theoretically run this for m+ and never swap

[ionic fern]

Seismic isn't gimped at all. It's one of the highest pure DPS legendaries in AoE.
Thunderlords is gimped tho.

[inland raft]

And with korayn you can make do with just running triple endurance for prot, put reverb in bottom potency and put crash in top potency so can just swap paths between the two

Or whatever potency fury uses if you a fury degenerate

[sweet summit]

Depths ^

yea

that works

thats a better idea

[inland raft]

Ashen feels a but better in m+ then the reverb one but its fine

[scenic knot]

I've never even seem that conduit above 200ilvl tbh (the strength one)

also kinda BM running M+ arms without the right conduits

[nimble laurel]

Is arms a stronger offspec for m+? I haven't had a chance to dabble with it, but I love the playstyle of fury.

[scenic knot]

but i see your point

[sweet summit]

like this!

[nimble laurel]

I got it at 239 from the new world boss

[scenic knot]

I have carpal tunnel now, so I gotta stop playing fury

[inland raft]

Your in the right conduits with what i just posted, as long as you have crash as arms your fine

[sweet summit]

idk if the leech thing is actually good tho
@ionic fern is it good how does it work

[scenic knot]

Actually pretty good idea, appreciate that

you too @inland raft

[inland raft]

If really want to minmax m+ can change reverb out for ashen as it does help with sweeping execute spam but its not that big a difference anyways and still only spending one energy

Reverb goes brr anyways

[sweet summit]

is ashen better than reverb in keys? really?

[scenic knot]

I was not even using reverb, I was using the conduit that procs MS

[inland raft]

Hard to say

[sweet summit]

MC is good on ST

[scenic knot]

as arms in M+

[inland raft]

I like it more, crit likes it more

[ionic fern]

What is good?

[sweet summit]

but not that big in m+

[inland raft]

But in end second potency as arms doesnt really impact much

[sweet summit]

that thing

you know i love leech

i know you love leech

[inland raft]

But ashen feels nice especially on fort weeks where spend a long time sweeping strike execute spam

[scenic knot]

I mean, in Tyr too since you're running massacre and bosses have a shit ton of health

interesting

I've never even touched ashen after I swapped from venthyr

[ionic fern]

I mean it's better than w/e that other one was..i think it was something with interrupting and DR?

And safeguard is pog.

[sweet summit]

5% DR on kick

[inland raft]

Second potency is almost entirely feelscraft though cuz none of them raise damage a ton i just like to execute

Crash is all you need

[sweet summit]

but is it like constantly 3% leech? 👀

yea crash is cracked with DN

[inland raft]

Sweeping strikes dreadnaught with ctr

[sweet summit]

coom

[scenic knot]

Since I heard of this DN soulbind i've been running it with great success

kinda insane ngl

[inland raft]

Still not as good as fury played well but its competitive enough

And arms is way more fun

[scenic knot]

but man, am I happy with the state of the classes right now

14y playing this game I don't think i've ever seem a patch so balanced classwise

you can literally play anything and perform good

[inland raft]

I just wish could convince shaman to go enhance cuz i play arms in raid

I want that juicy 7.25% buff

[scenic knot]

man... we have a shammy enh in our core

but our war arms is absolutely dogshit

I had to reroll to mage for arcane intellect since nobody plays mage there

[inland raft]

Ya we somehow struggling to get a mage

[scenic knot]

but is painful to see that dude doing sub 5k dps in The Nine

[inland raft]

I think we trial one this week, i just dont get how noone wants to play wows hero class

[scenic knot]

because it takes brain power

frost is easy to do damage, but people normally expect mages to do most of mechanics

[inland raft]

Stand in circle press iceblock

So hard

[scenic knot]

so if you're not comfy doing mechanics and blasting, you're just an arcane intellect bot

[scenic knot]

that can work for norms and heroics

but firedup showed some insane alter time uses in sylv M

[inland raft]

I mean ya im oversimplifying it

[scenic knot]

for soaking/arrows

[inland raft]

But it really is a favored class

[scenic knot]

for sure

fire was MUCH simpler when it comes to using it

[inland raft]

Thats cuz fire is tanky af and frost is made of wet newspaper

[scenic knot]

frost and arcane you kinda have to pay attention to what you're doing

[inland raft]

So have to think a lot more

[scenic knot]

also frost you gotta think on your feet for maximum dps

cuz if you over proc and you dont release things correctly you're losing massive damage

if you MoT in the middle of a FO you fucked your dmg as well

is kinda hard to perform good as a mage in general, so people don't want to fuck up

specially in prog

remember artificer in CN?

mages got almost all the mechanics there

if someone fucked up was 90% of the time a mage that blinked wrong or didnt alter time

[inland raft]

Bruh my fav mage story will always be the trial we had in bod

[sweet summit]

Good
Fuck mages

[inland raft]

Who refused to press blizzard on adds

He was gone so fast

[scenic knot]

refused? LMAO

I was talking to a friend from my guild last week about blizzard

he was like

"do you use blizzard on 3?"

im like, dude, sometimes you blizzard even single target

[inland raft]

We ended up bringing a fresh 120 alt mage and killed first pull after we booted him

[scenic knot]

mage dif

[scenic knot]

aw come on

is the best irony out there, a main war and "alt-main" mage

[inland raft]

Only class worse then mage is boomie

Fuck boomies

[scenic knot]

yeah fuck boomies

[inland raft]

And their obsession with prepulling

[scenic knot]

OH so this is not something my guildies have

nice to know

motherfucker dude

i hated one boomie in my guild

[inland raft]

It even infects limit and echos boomies

[sweet summit]

Mages are not people

[inland raft]

5.4.3… and pulled

[scenic knot]

yesterday I got fucked in a pull on DoS cuz of a boomie, motherfucker pulled an extra pack (after the one in ardenweald was dying) I had 48 necrotic stacks

he pulled a pack and the lieautenant

[inland raft]

I think i can count on one hand number of raid pulls this tier that pulled on timer and not on boomies

And its not one its every boomie

You see them all go at like 3

Perfect unison

[scenic knot]

gotta pump that parse

[inland raft]

Fuck them

[sweet summit]

Ye fuck boomkins too

[scenic knot]

I was in a SoD H pug these days, and we had like 3 boomies

I was outdpsing everyone and I was like "who the fuck are you guys giving PI to?"

"the boomies"

......

feels warrior man

[inland raft]

Its actually super good for venthyr boomie but ya fuck them

[scenic knot]

druid is the only class I dont have at 60

actually is still 30

[inland raft]

I once got pi during execute phase on last boss fos as arms though

[scenic knot]

couldnt bring myself to play that boring ass class/spec

[inland raft]

Couldnt spam execute fast enough

Felt good

[true olive]

Only have a 60 drood due to herbing xp

[inland raft]

My druid is like 20 or something

Cant stand the class

[scenic knot]

its also the only class i'm not on the discord

lmao

[inland raft]

I made it in cata

[scenic knot]

apparently there was a huge drama there during RWF

about NF and venthyr

and i was like "wait, there is drama in class discords?"

only boomies man

[inland raft]

Venthyr numbers are better but its legit teolling on prog because takes so much attention away from whats going on

At least thats how max described it

[scenic knot]

I don't think that is the issue, it's more with the boomies not having enough time to adapt to a new gameplay style (that takes brain)

[inland raft]

He was like if tou do one thing this tier it should be to ban your boomies from going venthyr

[scenic knot]

there is a VOD out there of a boomie doing like 14k dps while smashing his head against a keyboard

no kap

[inland raft]

I mean we have nerf doing whatvwr key level that was as bear banging his head on keyboard and topping the dps and taking 0 damage

On the tourney realm

Fuck druids

[uneven river]

question if anyone knows does shard of rev drop only from world boss or its a chance in the raid to ?

[scenic knot]

i think they drop from any boss

but you got 1 chance per week per boss

something like that

[inland raft]

Rev i think specifically is world boss but not sure

Never seen anyone get it in raid

[uneven river]

it def does drop on world boss

just not sure if it can from raid to

last one i need to get the set bonus so frustrating

[scenic knot]

since we're here, AM or HR?

i mean, preferences

and why

[uneven river]

raid or m+ ?

[scenic knot]

ITF or Ravager? and why

[inland raft]

My preference is itf/hr cuz i like pressing slam if we just talking preference

[scenic knot]

M+

[uneven river]

ravager in raid

in m+ i mean

not raid

and am in m+ to

[inland raft]

But if talking whats best rav/am til no longer feel like you can live that way

Which is pretty high key

[scenic knot]

Or pretty shitty healer

ITF and HR are the one thing keeping me pugging

[inland raft]

I mean if shitty healer your talents wont mean much as prot

[scenic knot]

cuz I hate going AM ravager

[inland raft]

Since we dont have self sustain

[sweet summit]

AM ravager pamp gang

[scenic knot]

and getting 3.5k healed

[sweet summit]

unite

[inland raft]

Sorry erga i used to swap only at high keys but now im lazy and just run itf/hr no matter what im doing

Cuz cant be assed to change talents

[scenic knot]

Mists 16 for funsies

last week

Ravager is insane

[inland raft]

I hit 6.4k in a sanguine last week

[scenic knot]

but without a good healer is kinda BM

[inland raft]

With itf/hr

[scenic knot]

I prefer the gameplay of HR ITF too

less buttons to press

[inland raft]

I like both im just lazy

[scenic knot]

i gotta save my fingers for my mage

already fucked my hands with fury

[inland raft]

But man when you go into a pack with first strike pot avatar aa and rav all at once

Its not guardian incarn level of damage but its still big pump

[scenic knot]

I miss my prot pally

[inland raft]

But even sims for me doesnt have itf/hr that far behind, itf/hr sims about 300 dps more in 5 minute single target and 120 less in sustained 5 target cleave and last week i swapped back and forth and really couldnt tell a difference overall

Both are fun though its just preference

[scenic knot]

and tbh if you

you're using shield wall that much, you kinda are fucked already

[sweet summit]

no?

[scenic knot]

we're not talking 20+ (hopefully)

[strong forum]

Idk if anything I'd play ravager + HR. Ravager is such a good button

[inland raft]

Halls though no matter how much i love hr build i go back to rav/am

So much kiting

[scenic knot]

when I say that much is to give AM that much value over HR

[inland raft]

So many bleeds and big damage bolts

[scenic knot]

ofc you use it, ever 3.5min

big pulls and shit

but I believe it goes to a 1.2min cd with AM right?

or something of the like

[strong forum]

1.5ish

[scenic knot]

I even forget to use Shield Wall sometimes when I'm using HR

Aftershock + Shockwave + Shield block and the pack is mostly dead anyway

(assuming no inspiring)

[inland raft]

Main benefit of hr has been aoe threat but as nf i dont really feel it matters one tc and revenge and ive never lost threat even to combusting mage with no images

First strike goes brr

But rav/am can be a good compromise

[strong forum]

Combusting mages in 9.1

[scenic knot]

exactly

[inland raft]

Well was talking last tier

[scenic knot]

no more fire mages or boomkins (i dont bring boomkins)

so no aggro problems

[inland raft]

I havnt done a ton of dungeons this tier anyways

[strong forum]

Spear and your aggro issues are gone

[inland raft]

All my friends quit so ive just been doing my weeklys

[scenic knot]

im actually looking forward to that

45 sec spear

[inland raft]

And in 15-17 range im often near top of meters overal anyways

So threat def no issue

[strong forum]

Shit dps

[inland raft]

Yup

15-17 weekly keys is a cesspool

[strong forum]

I refuse to pug

[scenic knot]

man, dont even mention it

[inland raft]

Wrb my friends to come back

[strong forum]

I rather not play

[scenic knot]

first week was insanely good

[inland raft]

I dont think im pushing keys this tier

Prob my weeklys then raid log

[scenic knot]

i did like 18s like they were 15s in 9.05

with my mage and war

second week tho

jesus

even at my current mage io (2.2k) pugs are trash

[inland raft]

All my friends went to tbc

Im all alone

[scenic knot]

(I only PUG too for the same reason as you @inland raft )

[inland raft]

Maybe ill put something together with guildies and push gain but right now not really motivated

Fuck tbc

[tardy osprey]

ya there are some bag pugs at 15+, but when you do super low keys and have 3 dps each doing sub 2k dps even in AoE fights, or Boomkins who can go an entire dungeon with never casting Starfall, or Rogues who can go an entire run with never kicking..

[wintry nymph]

i had a priest spamming flash heal on me at some point while i was helping a friend out

he was out of mana at pack 1

[pallid seal]

Hey guys question, I got an unholy set and do not have a blood set yet, should i use the unholy set until i get the blood set or should i wait until i get the chest?

[tardy osprey]

or when the dps is so bad, you get to the last boss in NW and everyone in the group ends up banished and the boss resets when he banishes you last.

it doesn't happen often, but makes you appreciate "mediocre" players that much more

[wintry nymph]

didn't even know that was a thing

thats amazing

[strong forum]

Obv use the set until you can switch to blood

[blazing condor]

You guys got domination sockets/gems?

i aint got shit

[tardy osprey]

I got leech from the WB first week of patch, but nothing in raid yet

[pallid seal]

Thank you for the help

[naive hatch]

What stat weights do you guys try to get for tanking raid?

[strong forum]

Ilvl

That's the only stat you care for when tanking raid

[amber sedge]

I have three dom slots and can run blood or frost....but not fourth slot to run anything beyond my bonus. I'm thinking that until I can do blood bonus AND socket the frost absorb one frost may be better even tho blood is suggested as bis bonus

Thoughts?

[inland raft]

Dom socket gear outweighs ilvl doesnt it?

[amber sedge]

I ran half and half for heroic farm last night so will look at some numbers later as well but wondering if anyone else had thoughts

[strong forum]

Dom sockets outweigh ilvl by a ton

The only ones that don't outweigh ilvl are obv speed/leech

But the rest absolutely fucking do

The setbonus itself is the HUGE thing

So you absolutely want to run 3 blood shards

That bonus itself is 700 dps

[acoustic crow]

I'm super conflicted about my vault, anyone want to confer with me about what to take?

[amber sedge]

Yeah. But survivability does it outweigh frost absorb shard + frost bonus? Because my question is what I take when I can only run 3 (and obviously or I'm worried about surviving)

[strong forum]

The blood bonus is 700 hps

[amber sedge]

Sure shankaze what are your cnhoices and current gear in those slots

[acoustic crow]

last week, my only option was to take 252 boots with high crit/ low haste.
this week the choice is between 252 boots with high vers/low crit
and Decanter's 252

[strong forum]

Decanter

[amber sedge]

That's at maxed out bonus right?

[strong forum]

Yes maxed out

But still, why would you not want to run the best bonus and instead do a mix and match or go full frost when frost is the worst bonus

If you can get a set bonus, you absolutely want to get that bonus

[amber sedge]

I wouldn't do mix and match I'm considering frost because the frost absorb is really good/arguably the best individual survival shard so just considering that + frost bonus v just blood bonus + blood shards

I have all there frost and all three blood and both bonus pieces

[strong forum]

Frost is dog

[inland raft]

For m+ id assume want the damage increase ones the health and healing and the absorb shield?

[amber sedge]

But only those + gloves

[strong forum]

For m+ you obv pick the 1 frost shard + the singular dmg ones

But if you can get the blood bonus for raiding you absolutely pick that

Thats not even a choice

[inland raft]

Still ilvl over socket with no bonus?

[strong forum]

No

[inland raft]

Er meant other way around

Socket over ilvl

[strong forum]

Even in m+ sockets outweigh ilvl

[inland raft]

Fun system

[strong forum]

No other singular equipment piece is giving you several% dmg

Or several hundred hps

Besides big dick trinkets

[inland raft]

I dps in raid and other warrior got his set bonus and a weapon and shot up nearly 2k dps instantly love performance being dictated so heavily by rng

[strong forum]

The entire issue is that you can't target or trade shards

Ontop of them just being generic as fuck

Nothing like tier sets

[inland raft]

And the faxt that you have to get specific drop for the bonus

I have the 3 unholy shards but no helm

So just sitting there

[strong forum]

Yeah that's also just weird

Like, why? Just equip 3 of the same set and boom

Here's your bonus

Would be so much simpler

[inland raft]

Nearly 1k dps lost even at rank 1 bonus because no helm

Blizzard shooting themselves in the feet yet again

[amber sedge]

Yeah the bonus system is dumb, as is the sockets themselves. I think it should have been some to gem sockets (buy items toads the so key to certains slots( or have every slot available from vendors, not just gloves

Even if they are capped at lower Ilelv from vendor, just to give options ot get bonus and slots

[inland raft]

Tokens to add sockets to any gear eligible for a socket would have gone a long ways

So could use m+ gear or pvpers could socket their gear instead of feeling they need to raid to perform their best in pvp

[strong forum]

That's a very weak way to make raid gear best gear

So sad

[inland raft]

I get why blizzard does it they want to force people to engage in more content but its really shitty

[uneven river]

@amber sedge did you get the shard of rev from the raid or wb trying to see if anyones actually looted it in raid

[amber sedge]

Wb

[uneven river]

rip

[inland raft]

Its had the direct opposite effect on my friends though out of nearly 3 dozen irl friends all playing the game im now the last one

[uneven river]

shitty systems dont keep people playing in the longterm it just pisses people off

[amber sedge]

Forcing more content is fine. But if more content is still chance based it can be bad

If it was grind a currency to buy shards, by all means give me more to do. But it it's do everything and pray

[inland raft]

I think its shitty in any form

[amber sedge]

Then it feels bad

[uneven river]

grinding a currency is good tho that makes sense

rng is just bad

the rng with raid drops itself is more than enough rng

[inland raft]

Pvpers shouldnt feel they have to mythic raid to pvp at their best dungeoneers shouldnt feel that either

Blizzard listened to raiders complaining about feeling they had to pvp to get best gear but then immediately turned around and did the opposite

[amber sedge]

Sure. Don't disagree with that. I was speaking only in context of my corner of the game

Like more content/reason to do it and keep doing it longer I think is healthy

But I agree that pvp shouldn't need to raid, raid shouldn't need to pvp, pet battlers shouldn't need to dungeons, etc

[inland raft]

And guilds also have to sort theough applicants of people who dont care about the raid but are doing it so they can do m+ or pvp

And will bail as soon as the systems arent in place anymore

[uneven river]

its made alts super unfriendly again

[inland raft]

Yup i abandoned all my alts

[uneven river]

doing an alt run tonight but prob gotta take the war on a chance tht i can drop the stupid rev shard as theres no info on if its wb only

[inland raft]

Havnt logged into one since they announced socket system and tier sets next tier

[sullen tangle]

Hi all, as a prof warrior, should I take the movement speed anima power to deal with necrotic this week?

Prot*

[tardy osprey]

absolutely agree, I prefer to M+ over raid and it feels bad I need to raid to for Dom sockets and Shard for M+ running.

[sullen tangle]

Or there anything else I can use to deal with the affix?

[inland raft]

The one tanks get only last a few seconds after combat starts you want the healer to take the group wide one

[tardy osprey]

Bounding Stride helps a bit, especially if your group lacks aoe slows

[inland raft]

Necrotic is just cancer, get a hpal healer and a boomie for every key

For bop and trees

Or go to character select and select bear and forget necrotic is even an affix

[tardy osprey]

I miss the days when BDK could just Anti Magic Shell to clear necrotic

[amber sedge]

Or be a kyrian dwarf...helps me feel better that I'm stuck alliance lol

[hollow sun]

Everyone wants tier sets to be back but the domination shards reminded me that I have to raid to get tier sets

I only want the cosmetic to be back tbh

[nimble laurel]

why can't they let me do m+ in peace 😦

[inland raft]

Cuz raiders are threatened by people having fun out of raid

[minor wyvern]

Hello all, i'm new to this discord. Was DH tank for the last season. Thx for the invitation. I got some question in 14-15 key at this time i got destroyer by caster if DPS don't cut until i got the -15% magic resit anima. It only me or i miss something?
https://raider.io/characters/us/zuljin/Pallacias

[sweet summit]

true

thats just every tank mate

need people to kick

[nimble laurel]

kicks + spell reflect

[sweet summit]

and/or CC/stun etc

[nimble laurel]

wicked bolts are bad

[inland raft]

You enjoying the game with a handful of your irl friends directly takes away raiders enjoyment of the game, its proven

And ya i refuses to step foot in halls last week in pugs because hard enough to get people to kick add needing to control or burn inspired mob to that and its hell

Blizzard hates tanks

[plush tendon]

Wicked bolts hurt and they just chain cast them

Screw HoA

Id rather do SD

[inland raft]

What you mean rather? Sd is my favorite dungeon

Especially now that no longer have those puddles in the ring

[plush tendon]

.... you arent wrong

but NW is my favorite 😛

[inland raft]

Sd>mists>nw

My 3 favorite

[tardy osprey]

NW is fun, but I think it is slightly more punishing if you have several window lickers in your group

[plush tendon]

Mists is lowkey a terrible dungeon

[inland raft]

Sd and mists cuz get to go absolutely huge for large parts of the dungeon and nw cuz weapons go brr

[ionic fern]

I like MIsts. 😦

[plush tendon]

EZ for sure, but not a fan

[inland raft]

Ive taken to skipping first pull entirely with invis pot, have to be careful cuz truesight, and then doing normal skip and then just mongo pulling the last part of dungeon

[plush tendon]

we do that first pull; dont dispell the jumpers for the big damage increase 😄

[tardy osprey]

I am tainted to Mists, way too many runs where the group sits in the middle of the rooms rather than going to a stand to show a symbol

[plush tendon]

and then I pray for a curse dispell

[tropic gorge]

I dislike mists greatly. The Zelda Forrest isn't even the worst part

[inland raft]

Puzzle is a healer mechanic

[plush tendon]

First boss and forest ruin it for me

[inland raft]

Healer should solve it with weakaura while do the trash

[plush tendon]

However, the forest is great for NF Warriors

I just dont like it

[tardy osprey]

not in the pug world

[inland raft]

Ya im a nf prot so maybe thats why i like it so much

[tardy osprey]

every mechanic is the tanks job

[inland raft]

Mists and sd I absolutely pump

Ive gotten 6k+ overall in both of them

I still need to craft reverb though for mists specifically

[plush tendon]

When we get double legos, Reprisal+Seismic 😄

[inland raft]

O god yes

[plush tendon]

[inland raft]

And also wall will be nice as second leggo in halls

[plush tendon]

Wall+Unbreakable for raid might be decent

lots of options open up to us with double lego

[inland raft]

Might even be worth run ing wall as second leggo in first part of dos

And then quickly running out and swapping like locks do

[plush tendon]

Used to do that in Motherload on high Tyran

had to take certain talents for those last two bosses

[dusky canopy]

I'm guessing if a person is not a mythic raider they would still shoot for the heroic Domination gear and then fill the rest with 252 vault gear?

[inland raft]

Yup

[tardy osprey]

unfortunately yes

[dusky canopy]

I know sim is king just curious what we're generically shooting for

[plush tendon]

I mean, how much is a shard worth is terms of I level

Cause I dont know

[inland raft]

Its everything

[tardy osprey]

one of the stormforged posted a few days ago that even Normal Dom gear is > M+ gear

[plush tendon]

without set bonus

strictly for dungeons

[dusky canopy]

Well In my own experience Kyr is doing about 10-12% of my overall healing

[inland raft]

O for dungeons alone idk but id imagine even normal for some of the gems

[dusky canopy]

From a passive bonus

[inland raft]

I know dps you would take a lfr helm over 252 vault helm

[tardy osprey]

not sure you go for every Dom slot in M+, but some of the shard effects are super strong stand alone

[dusky canopy]

Haven't gotten to try any damage shards yet need more sockets

[plush tendon]

Domination Sockets=shit system

Just feels so bad for toons I just want to dungeon with

and makes 5 slots from the dungeon item list completely worthless

[dusky canopy]

Yeah thats pretty much how I feel too

[sly lintel]

what should pick here,is that trinket even good for prot, if not I take cloak

[tardy osprey]

Meat Hook goes brrr

[sullen quartz]

belt has bis stats probs

[sly lintel]

so should I take it?

[tardy osprey]

what are your current trinkets?

[sly lintel]

oh wait

[hollow sun]

Like,I went healer in raid cause we have too many tanks. So now I need to farm raids on two characters? I would rather be suboptimal and just do mythic plus

[tardy osprey]

Overwheling Power Crystal is a decent dps trinket too, so if you want 2 dps trinkets Meathook would be a good addition

[sly lintel]

Hm I think I want 1 defensive and 1 dps

[tardy osprey]

then I would take either armor piece that is a bigger upgrade

[inland raft]

Scale from dos or preferably aegis from raid ia good defensive ones

[tardy osprey]

^ big true

both are like having an extra def cd

[restive wigeon]

enjoy farming scale

first you needa get loot

then you need a 5% drop

[sick sentinel]

so the best option atm for leggo for raider/m+ is reprisal?

[tardy osprey]

100% yes

outside of Glory for NecroLords

[sick sentinel]

tyy

and the best stats are still haste vers?

[ionic fern]

Yes.

[austere wedge]

is the the blood shards set still bis?

[ionic fern]

Yes, with Unholy close by and Frost in the dirt.

[chilly brook]

Probably

Usually pins and stuff are up to date

[austere wedge]

Perfect, i have full frost set

Lovely

[ionic fern]

Bruh please..i've done like 3 dungeons. 😦

[jagged pier]

smh

ive done 7 plaguefalls today still no trinket

[ionic fern]

[jagged pier]

yes dandy indeed

[ionic fern]

I'm just doing any dungeon right now for ilvl. :(

[modern brook]

Best part of official io is even more people thinking io means anything

[rancid ember]

Co-tank in my guild is still farming his Pox Sword and has been going non-stop.

Good news is he keeps passing Phial to us other folks 😄

[strong forum]

imagine not getting phial in your first key

[ionic fern]

That's wild o.o

[strong forum]

IM CRIIIITING IT

[blazing condor]

IM … IM IM CREEETING

[strong forum]

time to go back to socketing haste

[ivory elbow]

Still dont have scale

I had 70+ runs season 1

Il start counting this season too

[strong forum]

have you considered just getting it?

[rancid ember]

Just pluck the scale yourself men

[rancid ember]

Yeah nuts! To add insult I already looted a 252 weap both weeks

[strong forum]

now you can play fury

[rancid ember]

VDH, Pwar slacking just started playing him for 9.1 last night doing some campaign ish

[blazing condor]

How can you not have the scale? Bwonsamdi says ”take your trinkets and begone with ya!”

Simply just take it

[rancid ember]

[cinder nova]

The what now?

[mighty valley]

Poxstorm maybe? Agi sword from PF

[turbid cargo]

yeah. agi sword from PF that has a damage proc without sacrificing secondary stat/dps budget

it's super good - but super rare

[rancid ember]

Yee that's the one

[dark lark]

Hi guys, I'm trying to plan out CD usage for p2 of mythic eye right now, gonna try out AM/tW. Do I want to try and sandwich longer CDs between shorter ones so that the shorter ones are up again at the end of the encounter? Currently envisioning using something for every piercing lens cast: SR, demo, last stand, sw, externals, demo, and just weaving in SR whenever it's available for piercing lens

[distant crystal]

so he's just spamming PF with a bunch of dh/rogue/monks that are willing to trade it?

what the heck

[sick spade]

The Fragments of Destiny, has it been tested on live if it still works?

[orchid frigate]

ugh tough one (have engorged worm smasher as weapon as looted item):

both items are so good but weapon is weapon... 🤔

[strong forum]

There are only 2 good necks in the game

But several weapons

However using a 246 sin stained wouldn't be the end of the world either

[jagged pier]

well 10/10 for weekly vault already got every bit of loot from PF except phial

[strong forum]

The choice is yours

I got a dumb crit mastery helmet

[lavish oracle]

does Kleia's Spear of the Archon stack? or is it just 3% for any number of targets

[jagged pier]

i got a dumb crit vers belt

[strong forum]

But hey, ilvl is ilvl

[strong forum]

Buffs usually don't stack

[silk edge]

Hey folks, how much of a pain in the ass is it to change covenant ?

[strong forum]

It's like 1 quest

[mighty valley]

not that bad, going back to an old one is the problem

[jagged pier]

true gone up 7 today

[ocean yoke]

should be less now since they did that reset with the patch

for going back

[jagged pier]

upgrading my wep and shield with valor was most of it

[strong forum]

I need KSM first before I can upgrade my shield

I'll get there when I get there

[jagged pier]

mists shield

PF 1 h

both pretty good

[silk edge]

You start at 0 renow ?

[jagged pier]

both 246 now

[strong forum]

Yes

[jagged pier]

can be arms spec for raid on 2h bosses

[strong forum]

But you get like 6 renown per hour

[silk edge]

Ok thx for replies guys 👀 big pain then

[strong forum]

Maybe more

[silk edge]

Oh

Ok

[jagged pier]

u can get renown very very fast

[strong forum]

The biggest issue are the campaign quests

[mighty valley]

I got haste/vers bracers with a socket and plowed some valor into them before i remembered that's a dom socket

[lavish oracle]

at least the campaign quests give double renown now

[silk edge]

Yea i have read that you need to do all of them

[mighty valley]

well, maybe the dom socket will never drop for me anyway

[strong forum]

Dom sockets will never drop for me cuz I ain't doing the raid

:wesmart:

[lavish oracle]

raid's fun

cool fights

[strong forum]

Maybe if you're in a top 150 guild

Outside of that, can't really imagine

[ionic fern]

Either that or in a guild that doesn't care.

[jagged pier]

come join our Friday runs

[ionic fern]

9/9HC chad.

[strong forum]

Na but I care

[lavish oracle]

I'm in a guild that doesn't care 😄

[obsidian girder]

Hey, is there any point to wait with kicking ruin @sylvanas? Any down side if I jump right to her and kick it right away?

[strong forum]

I was in a guild that doesn't care and it literally killed my enjoyment of the game

[strong forum]

You wanna kick as late as possible

So everybody is there

The downside is she is only dmgable for a specific amount of time

So if you kick early when nobody is there, you will have less dmg done to her before p3

[obsidian girder]

Okay

More of an issue to get all those slowpokes there

[strong forum]

I'll take free loot

[orchid frigate]

got a weird idea in the last minute and decided to do a key on druid before reset. just in time with 2 min to spare (was an awful pug) and i get that weird owl trinket 😦

[strong forum]

Hoohoo

[orchid frigate]

well spent time...

[jagged pier]

well its not free

have to wipe to get it

[ocean yoke]

ew who wipes anymore

[jagged pier]

and the wipes will get worse when it changes to hc

[strong forum]

Cringe

[jagged pier]

very cringe

[flint cliff]

How do you reset necrotic stacks in TOP first boss? On a + 15 heal couldnt heal me.

[dark lark]

run for your life

and tell soothers not to soothe

[flint cliff]

How? The melee follows me.

[dark lark]

At 40%, Dessia will fixate someone until either A) she's soothed or B) you break through the absorb shield

So on necrotic weeks you just let your party kite the fixate until your stacks drop

[mighty valley]

depending on your DPS it can be smart to focus dessia first, then sathel while dessia runs around, then finish off dessia when shield goes away by itself

fight is easy from there

[lavish oracle]

I mean, you don't even really need to let the shield fade naturally, just let it go long enough for you to drop stacks

[flint cliff]

Okay so it was a damage problem. We didnt even come close to 40% 🤣

[placid river]

On Tarrague HC and I am being wrecked by melee swings with no debuff on

What I am doing wrong? Does he cleave?

70k melee swings

[strong forum]

Below 10% he enrages and does untankable damage

That's part of his gimmick

[placid river]

This is at 50% and above