nobody is pushing
#protection
strong forum
the ITF + HR stuff is literally just people being ultra lazy
its the max turtle build
which results in a rage, dps and threat gen loss
pastel sleet
so people just turtling while healers arent geared?
strong forum
no, its just people trying to copy andybrew
without understanding why he played it
they see the increase in blockuptime and nothing else
HR is good on tyrannical weeks on bosses where you cant charge often
and for when you want to be lazy, nothing else
well, plkas reasoning for running HR was "so you can focus more on other stuff in keys" because you need to think less when playing it
pastel sleet
im not ashamed. i like thinking less...
elfin surge
i dunno turtle build is fine for protecting against a shitty disc priest and specific affixes we need to be wary for grievous / necrotic but then i am a noob
strong forum
i dont like the argument "in case of a shit healer"
if your healer is shit you wont be doing high keys
elfin surge
yes 😄
strong forum
dogshit
limpid pawn
there's no meme dream going on with it?
strong forum
nop
limpid pawn
like infinite bolster
limpid pawn
lmao
strong forum
it doesnt extend bolster
it doesnt extend unnerving focus
literally only last stand
woven bear
@strong forum I tried reprisal now in a m+ and those are the logs https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XwTyQdBfgxPH6jaW/#fight=last&type=damage-taken we talked about it today and I tried to do better with blocking hits. I guess I improved?
strong forum
ya 77% looks aight, could be better
now you just need to use SS and TC more often
and a bit less ignore pain
limpid pawn
those are rookie numbers, up that
woven bear
@strong forum Where do I see the total blocked numbers?
strong forum
woven bear
ok
strong forum
but in m+ you slacked
which results in less rage generated
which also then results in less damage done and less survivability
woven bear
okay I'll check
dusky canopy
You guys tried logging M+ with the addon they made?
sick sentinel
how bad is venthyr in m+? should i even bother trying to tank m+?
sweet summit
its fine
mighty valley
how bad is venthyr in m+? should i even bother trying to tank m+?
i'm doing it, timing 16s week 1, obv not the best if you want to push way harder than that but it's beyond fine
strong forum
You guys tried logging M+ with the addon they made?
?
Logging m+ is a thing since m+ exists
dusky canopy
Yes I meant like warcraftlogs In game addon they have on there homepage its in beta rn
I was vague lol mb
brave jetty
hit a wall last night because our DPS group is a radical collection of underachievers
stark sage
oof
brave jetty
please kill me
tardy osprey
you can 1 button macro all those specs and parse better
brave jetty
it gets a little better by bracket but still like half are gray
mighty valley
what fight? and what's the problem?
is it uptime or like... do they just not know what they're doing
brave jetty
H Soulrender
I think the group finds the mechanics persistently demanding enough that it's just fucking them up + our brands aren't always optimized
But mechanically the group is very good and comfortable at this point with every element of the fight
The callouts are flawless, there's always maximum cleave
torpid fiber
how do we feel about glory legendary for m+?
brave jetty
We don't have a DK which hurts a fair bit but we have enough other knockbacks we're able to address the adds just fine
modern brook
how do we feel about glory legendary for m+?
It exists
Just play reprisal
But it's there
brave jetty
reprisal is actually just too sick in M+, i don't see myself ever giving it up
low beacon
how do you people stay alive in m+, Im dps main tanking because noone else wants, have like 85% shield block uptime in the dungeon but i feel like im dieing every pull
Halls, DoS anything with casters just depletes my hp bar
true olive
Are peeps kicking?
low beacon
cant kick with inspired
fierce field
CC the inspired and pull away frm them
blazing condor
Or nuke it
low beacon
You cant just CC every inspired you need to pull big to time
blazing condor
Nah you can definitely still time@it
true olive
Wiping wastes more time
low beacon
This week feels so bad on prot warrior
blazing condor
In dos there’s like 4 packs max that need CC
low beacon
Both stuns are useless
blazing condor
If you cc and nuke its like 1 min loss at max
blazing condor
Well then find better people
fierce field
you can still pull big and CC the inspire, and use CDs, just takes proper planning
low beacon
Dos has a lot of inspired on cc immune adds
and we already invis skipped in mechagon + hakkar
but the big caster packs in the main area are so rippy
mighty valley
you either need to have DPS big enough to blow up the inspired so you can start interrupting shadowcore
or CC it and just mop it up later
you can just pull in the inspired when the main threat is gone and it doesn't waste that much time
but you can't just be eating every shadowcore
at least we can reflect one while inspired is up
it's literally just those two packs though, it's a pretty easy week for the rest of it
low beacon
if warrior still had rage from damage taken
if youre not in melee youre just fucked
feels so bad lol
cant even press IP
mighty valley
you shouldn't need to if your dps is doing it right
low beacon
Ardenweald was sketchy too
I pulled 4 groups and after about 10 seconds i almost got oneshot
mighty valley
what key level?
low beacon
didn't even have a lot stacks, on my druid that now has 10 ilevel less you can pull like 7 groups and be god for 30 seconds, very balanced
16 dos
low beacon
also had no melee, triple caster noone with uncapped aoe
so packs didn't die
Unlucky I guess
mighty valley
probably worse on the interrupts front too
mighty valley
the caster packs need legit interrupt coordination at this gear level
jagged pier
how do you people stay alive in m+, Im dps main tanking because noone else wants...
uptime means nothing
tardy surge
Yo a question regarding domination shards. May it be worth to go for Unholy bonus instead of Blood as a necro war since you can stack so much main stat?
low beacon
Not sure how much impact prot potency conduits have because I just run with the DPS soulbind, can't just switch 4 conduits everyday with this fantastic system
ionic fern
Only the Covenant specific Potency for NF/Kyrian would impact somewhat. The others are w/e.
ionic fern
Yo a question regarding domination shards. May it be worth to go for Unholy bonu...
Chances are, no. Atleast not with the base profile. You can sim your own character tho. 🙂
low beacon
I could put the aftershock one into the middle row for niya to have at least one useful for prot i guess
instead of second endurance one
ionic fern
It won't save you from "feeling like dieing every pull".
low beacon
yea but the extra hp from more AA uses could
ionic fern
That has to be either:
1)Poor play
2)Poor DPS'ers/Healers
modern brook
or the everprevelent 3) everyone is bad at this game
mighty valley
I don’t think people really get the patch scaling
See a lotta folks who definitely weren’t doing 19+ last season hopping into pug 16s being like “why is this harder. Group sucks”
jagged pier
^^
waxen cradle
So as far as the pinned trinket info, is that to explain to people how it works as I thought that was obvious already, or to highlight it actually being a pretty good survivability trinket ? or well both
mighty valley
People thought the damage reduction was capped since the damage is
So kinda both
Clarifying how it works, and in doing so pointing out its bonkers defensively
waxen cradle
Ah ok yeah did not know that people thought that
hoping it does not get the old nerf sledgehammer
flat kite
How are doing torghast, are you running as prot or slipping into a DPS spec?
It's likely slow and steady to do as prot, but maybe i'm too cautious, or that's the nature of it, but it just takes too long to be enjoyable, or achieve better than a 2-3 star run
flat kite
I mean... I don't know your wife..
woven bear
Is there a list for our best m+ powers right now?
strong forum
you need to do 1 dungeon and youll know yourself
smoky wave
I second taking your wife to torghast. Esp if she's an ele shaman with the silly bloodlust-on-totem powers.
strong forum
like, there is no actual choice in the m+ powers
theyre all pretty on the nose which ones are good
waxen cradle
WoWhead had kind of a more or less pick these in kind of this situation, but after enough dungeons you will know what to pick and why as lets be honest a lot of them just suck
strong forum
theyre incredibly boring
waxen cradle
again run enough dungeons and you will know the very generic set of powers you will always choose
I personally hope the choice of powers as season 2 progresses will change as several months of these will get old very fast
waxen cradle
lol
fringe marten
Ok wtf..no one else is having this happen?
Did the maw quest where you get the 'shroud' ability. it's randomly cancelling constantly just like my invis pots in keys.
Does anyone know what is up with this?
waxen cradle
what being cucked on gear from raid yes definitely
fringe marten
omg kreven preach.
I've done 2 normal full clear, 1 8/10 heroic, 1 9/10 and mythic tarragrue. I have heroic gloves, 3 blood shards, 1 dyz...2 normal mode trinkets.
waxen cradle
nah just kidding but seriously got cucked so hard 2 weeks in a row now, either someone at blizzard really hates me or people should steer clear of me on the off chance this bad luck rubs off
fringe marten
Like..? KT loot pls..PLZ I beg? or remnant of nerzhul loot?
mighty valley
I wish the m+ powers were more random but I also know it would make gamers mad lol
Also I would get very impatient with people burning timer to read tooltips
waxen cradle
I keep getting nothing but conduit upgrades, and Ner'zhul cucked the fuck out of me 2 weeks in a row for my chest on normal and heroic
I have gotten 3 pieces of actual loot, 1 shard, and conduit upgrades
wait 4 pieces of actual loot, conduit upgrades, 1 shard
misty charm
guys is there a way to see inspiring mobs in MDT?
strong forum
Thx!
mild sluice
Anyone able to look at these logs for me and give me any pointers? I hit KSM tonight off of these two dungeons but want to try push higher this season; much love ❤️ https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TQcGy4kDv2MAFxLr
fading quiver
So, I just got the shard of zed, the unholy aura one. the wowhead said it doesnt proc on pretty much anything. but with my testing, even thunderclap procs it.
cloud tide
how do u determan who gets necro banner buff
mighty valley
Closest people to you
brave jetty
whoever trades you enough gold
mighty valley
Anyone able to look at these logs for me and give me any pointers? I hit KSM ton...
You really just wanna get that blocked hits % up, you're at around 60 and could get a lot higher
shadow temple
how do u determan who gets necro banner buff
There's also banner info if you check pins
ionic fern
So, I just got the shard of zed, the unholy aura one. the wowhead said it doesnt...
Things are prone to changes.
It did not used to proc off of anything, seems it was changed then. 🙂 👍
brave jetty
i haven't gotten a better piece with a different set bonus yet, so i've been trying the frost one in the meanwhile
it is INSANE how undertuned it is
good lord
fading quiver
The crit absorb one?
brave jetty
yeah
fading quiver
yeah, mega doodoo
brave jetty
is that at rank 4?
ionic fern
Max rank jeah.
fading quiver
from a 5 mob target dummy just doing damage rotation:
siphon essence doesnt have a target limit, so probably pretty value in M+
ionic fern
rotund thicket
could anyone explain me why So'leah's Secret Technique sim so bad? isnt it a 82 str and 111 haste stat stick?
sweet summit
it sims as +111 haste as default i think, and i dont know the command to change that
but stat sticks are generally not that great for tanks, usually damage procs are better
urban quartz
Hi all. Bit of a noob question. I'm struggling to keep aggro on pulls in M+. I'm following mostly Pika's pug friendly routes as a Kyrian prot warr. Apart from using challenging shout on CD, does anyone have any tips?
ionic fern
Are you running Reprisal with BSC/Ravager/AM?
fading quiver
I always throw ravager and tclap at the start, seems to grab them up pretty well most of the time.
ionic fern
You shouldn't have threat issues generally if you play the rotation correctly unless the DPS'ers are going full ham before you get to grab aggro.
urban quartz
Are you running Reprisal with BSC/Ravager/AM?
Yes
urban quartz
You shouldn't have threat issues generally if you play the rotation correctly un...
Could also be the issue
ionic fern
Then the next suspect is your Rage usage.
If you are spamming IP you won't have enough rage for Revenge which is the majority of your AoE damage.
urban quartz
Is it worth running Crackling for the increased range of tclap
ionic fern
Is it worth running Crackling for the increased range of tclap
Jeah, it's good in Mythic+. 🙂
But i doubt that's your issue currently.
urban quartz
I try to use the opener on IcyVeins, but I suspect I'm not using enough Revenges in turn.
I'll keep it in mind. Thanks both
ionic fern
The opener is mainly for ST situations on IV.
In AoE you generally:
Ravager->Charge+Avatar->Revenge
Revenge should be your primary RAge dump in most situations as long as you have Shield Block covered.
urban quartz
Appreciate the tip Mwahi.
ionic fern
Do you have a damage brake down of your dungeon by any chance?
urban quartz
Not at my PC currently. But I assume Revenge should be pretty high?
fading quiver
usually #1
urban quartz
Awesome!
Maybe it's just my mind set. First proper tier tanking and maybe it's just my mind I should just be using defensives so should save to do so
waxen cradle
the only time on AoE especially I am not going full mongo padlord with spamming Revenge is when I am saving enough rage to keep SB up, but with Reprisal helping me out with that from my intervenes and charges I am spamming Revenge A LOT 😛
mighty valley
IP just doesn't reduce that much damage for the rage cost, it's mostly just for excess rage that you'd otherwise waste
Or the worst situations where you need literally everything you can get to survive
urban quartz
Need to spam more Revenge then I think!
waxen cradle
@urban quartz Also do not fall into the trap of forgetting we are preemptive tanks in terms of damage taken, do not try and react to damage taken, learn to and get used to predicting what is about to happen and reacting accordingly, well seeing what is gonna happen so to speak
urban quartz
Will do.
waxen cradle
@urban quartz By doing so you can see when using certain abilities is more necessary and when your clear Revenge spam to your hearts content, one thing that I find a lot of people do wrong as a Warrior tank is say for example casting SBlock when you do not need to such as on large packs of casters, or not using SBlock when they should as the other side of that situation such as when they might waste rage on IPain. I know this post is a bit off the main question you asked, but knowing when to use what helps you to be able to spend that rage on more damaging ability casts.
urban quartz
You've given me plenty of information to get me started. I appreciate that.
waxen cradle
Its all a balance of when you should use what and knowing when X ability or Y ability should be of higher priority than each other and why
urban quartz
DoS pack with the purple guy that knocks you off is mostly/is all casters right? , so why would I SBlock for example
mighty valley
There's definitely enough melee in those packs to justify SB
Honestly, with Reprisal allowing you huge uptime, there are very very few packs in M+ where SB isn't worth it
urban quartz
True
waxen cradle
No there are absolutely melee mobs in that pack, but if your only spamming IP there for example trying to survive the damage your going to die, but also if your just using SBlock and not going into that pack with a CD or so and preparing for the damage that is coming your also gonna die
As well as you should yourself try and interrupt and so should the dps as well, but trust me when I say in pugs dps will commonly not interrupt because there mongoloid personas will tell them "but my pretty dps numbers will be lower" which can and will in turn screw you
So to solve that issue run with people you know and trust and you dont have to deal with mongo dps
urban quartz
Always a better way. Pugging is hell. Luckily most of my guild members like doing M+
waxen cradle
As I said learn what should be used when, and plan for the damage before it happens, a lot of people talk about SBlock flat uptime as the end all be all of Warrior tanks, but truthfully its by and far way more about effective uptime, meaning making sure your getting as many actual blocked hits as possible. That is not to say that keeping SBlock up period is not ABSOLUTELY important during blockable attacks because it just is, but I am highlighting the value of making sure your blocking what can be blocked and not wasting casts of SBlock casts on things you can't block in the first place. Either way man keep plugging away, you seem to have the desire to play better and be the best player you can be so that is the right attitude, good luck man
urban quartz
Thanks Drkreven. I appreciate you taking the time out to give this to me.
Harrow, you too
thorn remnant
I'm having a hard time understanding if I want Best Served Cold or Booming Voice for M+. Any thoughts?
opal escarp
I know Reprisal is too good and have read the pins but if you were to run Glory in keys, what talent set-up would you run it with?
nimble laurel
I'm having a hard time understanding if I want Best Served Cold or Booming Voice...
BSC dinner reprisal gives free Revenge
ionic fern
I know Reprisal is too good and have read the pins but if you were to run Glory ...
Default back to the old Ravager/BV/Bolster most likely to cover for the SB uptime decrease.
opal escarp
Thank you
lilac bloom
i'm tanking salvanas... but on p3.. if the floor is destroyede i couldn't jjump over
brave jetty
oh can i just say
Shard of Kyr is NUTS
Just ridiculous how much that thing does over the course of a fight, it's like practically up there with Indomitable in my healing done
digital arch
In love with warrior prot 
grave crane
so sinful surge extends the duration of Last stand, but if talented into bolster it doesnt give SB as long as you can extend last stand. which i would assume it should?
grave crane
but the tooltip says for the duration, and if i can extend it then it should give me SB for the full duration logically and yeah i just tested that out too which sucks
elfin nova
You can easily argue it should work. But yeah sadly it does not
grave crane
well thats annoying, ill submit a bug and hope they see it lol
elfin nova
Personally I doubt it will get fixed, i imagine it was bug reported when it didn't work on ptr
sick sentinel
do prot warriors still gain 2 rage per hit and 3 rage per hit taken w/ a 1 sec ICD?
modern brook
but the tooltip says for the duration, and if i can extend it then it should giv...
as a good rule of thumb, if at any point in your wow career you find yourself defending an idea with "but the tool tip says" - thats a strong indicator you're wrong
sick sentinel
So if i want to do M+ i have to be kyrian?
modern brook
No
mighty valley
I don't think diminishing returns will matter til near the end of this tier
sick sentinel
So I can go necro then? is there a big difference defensively?
obtuse monolith
Phial is more convenient to use than Fleshcraft, or to save for big incoming damage.
Spear better damage than banner, plus add CC
But play what you like, I still enjoy M+ as Venth, which is worse for DPS and Tanking
sick sentinel
Okay thank you!
mighty valley
The actual, real downside of going anything other than kyrian or NF is pugs might be judgmental and not pick you
In terms of performance you can do whatever
broken olive
Prot definitely has the best argument for necro though too
cinder nova
Why does it feel like I'm getting absolutely destroyed by Fatescribe
sick sentinel
guys I have a question - I did not know where else to ask this, but hoping for an unbiased answer...
I am trying to decide between taking my prot warrior or brewmaster for SoD, not sure which one to take (they're both within 1-2 ilvls of each other) and the co-tank is a vengeance
raid comp is like 70% casters/magic dmg dealers and 30% melee/physical dmg dealers roughly
and I am equally comfortable with either
cinder nova
Are you doing CE?
sick sentinel
CE is?
stoic igloo
Cutting Edge
killing the last boss of the raid on mythic before the next tier begins usually
sick sentinel
eventually aiming for that, yes
mighty valley
Wasn't gonna bother doing Timewalking, got roped into it, and got Aegis
sick sentinel
honestly, the main reason for my confusion is the buffs that both bring like idk if mystic touch will be better for our raid comp than battle shout, and the other factor is the tank dps - like although the group isn't short on dps or anything, so idk if that would even matter...but my brewmaster sims at about 4.5k patchwerk, while warrior is simming at 3.6k
in my understanding, tank dps won't really matter since group dps is good enough to get us past things
mighty valley
personal dps isn't nothing but it's a small part of the overall raid damage, not the biggest deal if you're not pushing for top 100
also it's a much bigger deal to figure out if you're getting more out of warrior utility vs. monk utility
if you have no other warriors at all, battle shout + rally might outdo monk
frank hemlock
Mystic Touch should be more DPS than shout every time i imagine
Tho warriors bring Rallying
It really depends on your comp if you have other warriors/monks
And honestly it shouldnt be much different tbh
This raid is heavy on magic damage and its pretty bad on warriors
i believe on Eye there isnt a single blockable thing for example
sick sentinel
Hmmm, then I guess the brewmaster might be a better pick
mighty valley
from what i've seen so far, it's not a huge tankbuster raid and rally might be the biggest factor tbh
sick sentinel
😅
mighty valley
just a lot of huge raid damage checks
cinder nova
This raid is heavy on magic damage and its pretty bad on warriors
I don't think it's the magic damage that's fucking us.
It's that most mechanics that hit massive are not blockable.
And they're all tankbusters.
frank hemlock
yea
cinder nova
Mythic eye feels like dogshit.
frank hemlock
Now that you mention it, i think Deathlink is phisical right?
rotund mango
Bro play what you like more or are better at. If you need the class utility you can get it somewhere else
cinder nova
Yeah lots of physical tank mechanics aren't blockable this tier
But they were blockable week 1
frank hemlock
I dont get why we cant block or reflect anything on that fight
frank hemlock
Its beyond me
I was getting so pissed on our mythic prog on it
i think the literal only thing you can reflect is little eyes casts
frank hemlock
i hope so
it feels really bad to have block being literally useless
and sr close to useless
sick sentinel
I keep thinking about stagger, dampen harm and celestial brew, feel like that might better than warrior defensives
But honestly I am not so sure
frank hemlock
Warrior is pretty tanky
And honestly tankyness doesnt reallly matter all that much
sick sentinel
I feel like last stand and rallying cry with ignore pain is also pretty useful in many situations
frank hemlock
Any class can survive mythic prog
sick sentinel
Hmmm
frank hemlock
It really comes down to raid buffs imo
If you dont have any warriors, it should be a better pick
Same goes for monk
If you have both, it shouldnt really matter
sick sentinel
Got it
frank hemlock
If you really want to bring a bit more, Cry should help on progression on a few bosses
Its real good on Painsmith, with big damage spikes
But not so much on fights like guardian with constant damage
But its still doable w/o it
sick sentinel
I think it’s coming down to a coin toss for me
mighty valley
Have you played both a bunch?
sick sentinel
Yes
But I think I’d say I’ve played prot more than brew
And this might be irrelevant, but I think I’m luckier with gear on my prot than on my brew! 😂
graceful cobalt
hi wich talents and conduits if i play M+ with the wall
tacit smelt
what way is everyone going in dos this week
jagged pier
left
tacit smelt
yikes :/
jagged pier
its far better
tacit smelt
ik
jagged pier
u get 2 power early on
tacit smelt
but my teams healer is a holy priest
jagged pier
and?
tacit smelt
and she cant live through a mask this early without a urn or 3 powers on a 20
jagged pier
u dont need to deal with that spirit straight away
tacit smelt
ik
trying to avoid a whole lot of back peddling :/
I'm running a day care here with my team
lucid steppe
Guys. I have seen a good mix of the wall and reprisal in mythic sod. What u recommend to upgrade first?
Cuz some boss abilities hit really hard and I think more shield wall is huge there. And cuz of some long tanking downtime’s reprisal seems a bit useless sometimes
We killed the eye mythic on Thursday and the magic dot in intermission is ticking really hard and I needed shield wall as often as I could get it to survive this
brave jetty
is there anything in Tazavesh we're super interested in? So'leah's?
jagged pier
u should be useing the wall on the eye its a fight to fight basis
but reprisal is better on more fights
where the wall is better on the eye and maybe/probably sylvannas
deft vessel
I still haven't quite figured out what to use where as far as legendaries go
Using reprisal everywhere in dungeons, torghast and open world shit, the wall entirely in raid, cus raid is still new to me
Note that I didn't really play much since 9.0.5, so reprisal is new to me still lol
craggy pilot
what are the new best Tank trinkets for M+?
cold zealot
Note that I didn't really play much since 9.0.5, so reprisal is new to me still ...
reprisal basically everywhere, wall if you dont have to block much or need more shieldwalls
reprisal has a bit of a learning curve but is just more fun and rewarding
deft vessel
That much I get already, why I like it better
Old warrior's soul + scale and you're probably set 
For trinkets
cold zealot
the one in the pins is also good apparently, did 350kish absorb in my nw 17 last night (226 version)
i used it on the major pulls and some smaller inbetween
it doesnt feel like doing this much bc you dont see it live but looking at meters ist is not to be forgotten
Old warrior's soul is juicy but can fuck your invis skips so beware
deft vessel
I hate invis skips 🙈 I tend to just plan my routes around them, though they do really help sometimes, it's just...very hit and miss in PUGs which is the vast majority of my m+
The new shield trinket I got as well from normal, will have to try it, not very enthusiastic about it so far
lucid steppe
u should be useing the wall on the eye its a fight to fight basis
Ty! Which talent in last row would u choose for mythic progress? When playing the wall I guess AM. with reprisal AM/Bolster? Also have seen HR in Logs
craggy pilot
Old Warriors Soul doesnt it drop off between packs?
inland silo
It lasts a bit after you drop combat so you can keep it up if you pull fast enough
strong forum
Has a 15sec grace period
craggy pilot
ah ok, thats pretty cool 🙂
cold zealot
In my experience with it, it rarely drops off esacially if you keep an eye on it (and your healers mana).
It is solid, i played around with occular gland and prefer warriors soul, because it has no downside (sub50% hp) and is most of the time more stats gained.
10/10 would reccomend and play
atomic schooner
what neck is currently best for us?
atomic schooner
there's none haste versa
unique shale
only pvp
atomic schooner
xd
unique shale
there is one in new dung but its 233
atomic schooner
are there some vids explaining haste? i dont get why ppl start playing 'into the frey' now
unique shale
SB uptime
strong forum
Purely because it grants a few more% of SB uptime
unique shale
i tried high versa and its shit
strong forum
Which isn't needed whatsoever
unique shale
haste is so good
jagged pier
Ty! Which talent in last row would u choose for mythic progress? When playing th...
If its the eye AM dont know about slyvannas depends how muh blockable damage there
unique shale
First boss of top with big add together if you don't have high SB uptime you are just dead
mortal strike just hit like hell
plus heal reduction
lucid steppe
@jagged pier ty. and over all in Mythic raid? AM should be best or?
mellow bridge
and she cant live through a mask this early without a urn or 3 powers on a 20
Sounds like people not using defensives tbh
You should never get more than one rage cast
And if everyone just uses their defensives, it's not hard to live through one
jagged pier
<@!179993058186625025> ty. and over all in Mythic raid? AM should be best or?
If your running reprisal yes if your running the wall no if theres any amount of blockable damage u take bolster with the wall the eye has nearly zero blockable damage so its pointless to take bolster
elfin nova
Sylvanas doesn't really do enough 'white swings' for you to be worried about block uptime
At least on heroic
chrome falcon
Managing to get some pretty crazy Banner uptime with the new legendary in keys but
Sacrificing the SB uptime is way too brutal
strong forum
yes
primal cape
does vers reduce magic damages?
sick sentinel
Vers reduces all damage
median tulip
Ty! Which talent in last row would u choose for mythic progress? When playing th...
With Reprisal I always use Anger Management. When using The Wall, usually I take Bolster or Heavy Repercussions, depending on the encounter.
Oh crap I was scrolled up
sly lintel
Which site is the go to for up to date warrior guides?
reef sluice
strong forum
you enjoying the absolutely rare mount?
primal cape
all same from @jagged pier never had problems
echo canyon
hi i have a question about the 50 talent for prot warrior when i use anger management and when heave repercussions?
heavy*
jagged pier
if your running the wall u use bolster in dungeons and AM on some raid fights
if you are using reprisal u use AM all the time, unless you are at this time doing 21-22+ lvl keys then u use HR it lets u stand in packs longer
and even then u can still run AM u just need to think more
echo canyon
ah i see thank you so much 🙂
craggy pilot
do i need to recraft Reprisal for socket if its in Boots?
jagged pier
u should recraft it anyways as sylvannas drops boots
elfin nova
(But it's not for socket reasons)
craggy pilot
alrdy have Halkias Towering Pillars
haste/vers legs
probably wont kill Sylv on much higher than Normmal anyway
strong forum
unless you want to spend a big amount of soul cinders on crafting reprisal on boots, to then later recraft reprisal on legs
craggy pilot
soul cinders?
strong forum
the thing you need to craft a leggo higher than r4
craggy pilot
where does Soul Cinders drop?
strong forum
torghast
primal cape
my leg is haste mastery and id like to put vers on it, do i have to recraft everything?
strong forum
my leg is haste mastery and id like to put vers on it, do i have to recraft ever...
yes
shield > weapon > armor > jewelery
unless its a bis item
na i mean like a real item
like scale or neck
i wouldnt use my valour until i have a shield
its gonna get superseeded instantly as soon as you get a higher ilvl one
so i wouldnt say its worth spending your valor already
ya
yup
how much is weapon to upgrade anyway
id say hold off uprading until next week then
cuz shield costs 250 per
so if you are to get a shield this week, you wouldnt be able to upgrade it
chilly brook
Shield is big
craggy pilot
is Axe of the Deadgrove the best 1h?
sweet summit
technically The Devouring Cold is the best 1h 🙂
craggy pilot
crit vers?
strong forum
max ilvl
craggy pilot
what does the use do?
strong forum
its higher ilvl, so it wins
craggy pilot
ah from Mythic Raid 😄
sweet summit
on use is cosmetic
strong forum
the use is only cosmetic
craggy pilot
ohh for More haste
so axe is #2 ?
😄
and celestial guidance is better than lightless force?
main wasp
has anyone been able to test if the Blood Link shard set is ST or AOE?
cold zealot
save enough valor for shield maybe even scale rest can be spent is my opinion
strong forum
like legit
getting a 246 shield now would be a ~30% increase in tankiness
its absolutely vital
strong forum
wtf jakey did you not get any gear?
plush tendon
I got a big shield in my box last week... it was either that or pants
I feel cheated cause Mythic Tarra gots a shield
main wasp
similar to me, i got Darkfrost Helm, a chest, and a shield from vault
had to go with shield
sweet summit
🙏
obtuse monolith
has anyone been able to test if the Blood Link shard set is ST or AOE?
Hadn’t thought about this. “Damaging a target establishes a blood link” so if you tclap it’d pulse a blood link w each of them? Say on the Nine?
main wasp
yeah, i've been wondering for like a month+ now lol
chilly brook
pray for shield bois
🙏
obtuse monolith
Not too much multitarget in raid but that’d wreck in Torghast. At max rank each target is 500dps&hps
strong forum
Top
craggy pilot
Crit haste is the best from Dung?
dark lark
What's the rule of thumb on ilvl vs dom socket pieces? 239 dom <=> 252?
dark lark
Ok, so if I get a vault piece that coincides with a dom socket slot, then take the other vault option
craggy pilot
is Dom > everything in M+ aswell?
strong forum
Ya, outside of the speed and leech sockets ofc
strong forum
Hadn’t thought about this. “Damaging a target establishes a blood link” so if yo...
It's only 1 target
strong forum
yeah, i've been wondering for like a month+ now lol
1 target
tardy osprey
226 is better than 252
even in M+?
strong forum
Depends on the specific socket, but Dom shards are huge even without the set bonus
tardy osprey
good to know ty
finite field
What should the optimal uptime of Shield Block for the entire dungeon be when using Reprisal in a high m+ key?
strong forum
Uptime itself isn't a relevant metric
What matters is the %blocked hits
Which can only be seen in logs
spark mortar
Shield Smashers - what would be best on this you think? ilvl obviously the ring, but a trinket and weapon...
mellow bridge
why would you pick a 226 weapon if you can just go and do m+ and get a way better one
that would only be a very short term gain
torpid zephyr
6/8 of the dungeons drop a weapon so unless you raid log only that ring is way better
spark mortar
The real split was the trinket vs the ring.
spark mortar
why would you pick a 226 weapon if you can just go and do m+ and get a way bette...
And yeah you're right muyuu - I get M+ every week.
mellow bridge
then dont mention the weapon :p
well the trinket is useless in raid pretty much
but apparently really good in M+
however you can easily get a higher ilvl one if you do at least HC raiding
the ring on the other hand is useful everywhere
it obviously depends on what you have available as well as what content you do
spark mortar
Yeah we're AOTC, team I'm too lazy for Mythic.
Pushing for 20s for the teleport this season.
craggy pilot
does it make sense to do LFR to get gear with domination sockets?
or is that not worth?
tardy osprey
I did LFR for Shards of Domination, not sure if the armor is worth using over M+, that's a lot of item level loss
maybe in raid for the shard set bonus?
sweet summit
the set bonus sometimes works in m+ too and i have no idea how/where/when
but the shards and shit are totally worth having/getting
main wasp
shard sets only work in maw/raid i thought
jagged pier
and thats from mists so i got stone ward just before the first boss so only missed 2 packs with it
strong forum
shard sets only work in maw/raid i thought
They're bugged
Sometimes they work in m+ but absolutely shouldn't
A fix is coming soon tm
main wasp
is the blood link still considered best for prot warrior, after the recent buffs to the dom set bonuses?
strong forum
Yes
main wasp
kk
strong forum
It's the best by like 300dps
main wasp
ah ok, pretty significant then
strong forum
Very
ionic fern
jagged pier
☝️
jagged pier
KEK
tardy osprey
that dps is including the set bonus?
sweet summit
its comparing the set bonuses
tardy osprey
are there sims breaking down the dps value of each domination shard? Just looking to see the value of 1 shard in a M+ environment
peak patrol
Is NF or Kyr better for high M+ keys
wanton panther
Guys I got this one just now. My current trinkets are Blood Spattered Scale always on and for the 2nd its either hear of al ar or old warriors soul.
Asking weather I should trade it to some of our DPS in the guild.
When do you see that we (prot) can use that ?
sweet summit
trade it away to a dps
scale and OWS are really really good trinkets
drifting oasis
does the value of mastery go up with reprisal? pushiung it above any of the other stats?
mental scarab
Haste->More stats-> all other combinations
sweet summit
it goes up but its still below ilvl haste and vers :p
drifting oasis
ok; i was just wondering whether to spam mists for the haste/mastery shield; need to replace a 213 season 1 shield
mental scarab
That you can Do
Shield Ivl is the biggest thing We have
And with good stats its even better
drifting oasis
there's a crit haste one as well in ToP, although not much fun farming top :S
modern brook
https://i.imgur.com/ZWVTsQO.png
Honestly the numbers don't lie
mental scarab
And scaling if frekking weird on the mini bosses in ther they CLAP 😂😂😂
wanton panther
Thanks thanks guys, I gave it away to one of our hunters.
sick sentinel
https://i.imgur.com/ZWVTsQO.png
Fuck maaan
I skipped the vault chest
With bloodrune
ebon sun
Wow lmao nice.
strong forum
sweet summit
@ the eye
cinder nova
Erga am I just a smoothbrain or what because H Fatescribe kicks my ass
That diviners probe is probing my supple behind
I gotta line up an IP, SR, and Demo shout just to live it with any stability coupled with the tank detonation
inland raft
Is it just me or is halls actually kinda hard this week basically asleep at the wheel any other dungeon then hit halls and life just flashes before my eyes, that bolt buff seems insane
sweet summit
halls fucks on fortified inspiring
mighty valley
It's upside down world
languid juniper
Erga am I just a smoothbrain or what because H Fatescribe kicks my ass
It does hurt a bit, but nothing crazy tbh.
Just SR to deflect
jagged pier
mists scary the dungeon thats 99% physical damage 🤔
languid juniper
^
bright flax
Mists first packs are rough, rest seems ok. End is bananas mass pulls anyways
Weird is hoa feeling harder than top
jagged pier
literally shockwave stack the debuff and SR it
languid juniper
Just pop last stand for the dammmm
amber herald
hoa is more difficult than prot for a prot warr I think
even before they buffed bolt by 27% (why blizzard)
sly lintel
Which stats do I use to craft my legendary with ?
ionic fern
Haste/Vers.
sly lintel
thanks fam
mighty valley
mists scary the dungeon thats 99% physical damage 🤔
it's not the damage, it's just dps fucking up targets in the maze with inspiring lol
cinder nova
It does hurt a bit, but nothing crazy tbh.
Just SR to deflect
That's only one cast, he does 3.
jagged pier
🤷
cinder nova
Is it just me or is halls actually kinda hard this week basically asleep at the ...
Yeah, we did a +16 HOA to pad GV and I died to Wicked Bolt. The buff is obnoxious and the damage was like... 38-40K per bolt this week in that run.
But if you can line up the bolts on double obliterator packs and SR them both 📈
At any rate, yeah you gotta kick bolts, CC mobs, and either out-range it or LOS it.
Just one or two casts of it without CDs and you're gonna get fucking bodied.
chrome falcon
huh, SR can reflect the probe from Fatescribe?
i was using it to reflect the Twist Fate debuff lmao whoops
languid juniper
That's only one cast, he does 3.
if you are really afraid of thoses cast, just use shieldwall, there is no other dammage coming to you in the fight. And you will probably have it up for the next overlap/p1
cinder nova
if you are really afraid of thoses cast, just use shieldwall, there is no other ...
The issue is 22K damage every swap overlapping (sometimes) with Twist Fate and the Invoke Destiny pop.
And also I think partially healers are just not prepared for it either.
chrome falcon
You should be going into that with 100 rage+DS up every time
cinder nova
Almost every healer I've pugged it with I've had to tell them the biggest spike of tank damage is the tank swapping onto the boss.
🤔 ...why would I cap rage?
cinder nova
I'd rather cap my IP and spend the rage and have 40 leftover to pad out my IP after Probe splats it
Which is what I do
languid juniper
idk i just have 1 tank swap before p2 on heroic
cinder nova
It's just obnoxious
chrome falcon
I dunno, i found that taunting with some IP and 100 rage and DS was enough to just blast a million IPs and push through it, as long as the healers know it's going to happen
it hurts a lot though
i normally slam fleshcraft if other stuff is happening during it #bannergang
cinder nova
ew banner is ♿ parses
chrome falcon
idk why but even if i go a dps covenant i literally cannot parse on this class anymore
i had full purple/orange for every fight on mythic in legion but in this expansion i just cannot dps
cinder nova
That's because late legion warr was busted
Now you gotta actually bigbrain DPS sometimes to get parses
Or just run SR on cleave fights
kek
chrome falcon
i got a 90 second long banner uptime on a target dummy though so that was fun
i mean late legion warrior you had to have zoomer reflexes and just spam your fucking keyboard to parse
and early legion warrior you just stacked crit while all of skyhold told you stacking crit was trolling (because it was)
woven bear
Can I somehow mark players that are more than 8 yards and less than 25 yards away on the unitframes with elvui? I would like to have a indicator where I can intervene and charge back easily
cinder nova
Eyes
distant crystal
you could probably do it with a weakaura
or, someone who's better than us at weakauras could 🙂
chrome falcon
Yeah I don't think elvui can do that
cinder nova
You could, but I don't see why you'd need it. Melee DPS or just eyeball check
distant crystal
lol
chrome falcon
Do you guys think that going Glory in m+ and taking HR so you have more than 0 uptime on shieldblock is trolling
cinder nova
Yes.
Damage times keys.
HR isn't really necessary unless you're doing massive keys
chrome falcon
Glory does damage
cinder nova
I'd be shocked if it simmed higher than rep
Also AM
Like Rep + AM simming higher than Glory + HR is almost guaranteed
chrome falcon
Yeah I'm 99% sure that reprisal is just way too good but I'm gonna experiment on like a 16 or something
cinder nova
Just sim it on a dungeon slice
cinder nova
How often is banner up though
cinder nova
And does that offset the amount of damage you get on every charge/intervene with BSC
chrome falcon
It's up on me for like half the time i'm in combat
strong forum
this trinket is nutty
cinder nova
?
strong forum
did 260dps in muh+
cinder nova
Aegis?
strong forum
phial
chrome falcon
I'm forcing my guild to do mythic Nine before HC sylvanas because i want my fuckin Aegis
that trinket looks so juicy
strong forum
2 is the sweetspot i think
naive hatch
what missives for reprisal?
sick sentinel
Haste vers I think
naive hatch
fucc ok
sweet summit
yap
strong forum
placid river
oj oj oj
sick sentinel
Any necrolord glory warriors that can vouch for how it feels to use
ionic fern
What does feeling have anything to do with it? 👀
One persons says it "feels" ok, the other says it "feels" bad.
If you're doing keys where you are not punished by the lack of SB that Reprisal provides then go ham and enjoy Glory.
sick sentinel
Damn homie I was just asking people’s opinions
ionic fern
I understood that and i provided you with the answer with reasoning. 👀
placid river
@ionic fern Can you shed some light on why mastery is not preferred by many as prot? It seems OP doubling the value of SB. Am I missing something?
ionic fern
RNG.
Also if you actively chase mastery you are losing other stats including Haste which reduces your overall SB up-time.
placid river
I can see that argumetn
ionic fern
It's not a bad stat per-se, it's just RNG and tanks usually want consistency in their survivability.
placid river
I'm at 22% haste/29% Mastery/17% Vers (Into the fray 0 stacks).
Yeah I can see that, but I'd think that would mostly apply to big tankbusters. Say you are pulling packs of 8 mobs, none are tankbusters per say, but the overall reduction then might be nice.
ionic fern
Jeah, sure - but now you're tailoring the situation for mastery artificially increasing its value.. It could be done pretty much for any stat.
In raids you could probably get away with going more mastery/vers heavy due to having 2 tanks for example.
sick sentinel
I guess I should ask instead, does glory used correctly add more dps to a m+ than just being kyrian with reprisal?
ionic fern
Overall group DPS ? Yes, if your DPS players are not bad.
placid river
@ionic fern My context is purely M+, should be noted
ionic fern
Jeah, see in m+ you are constantly tanking so going too heavy on mastery would lose you out on haste for example.
Most people feel "comfortable" around 25% haste..so you have to find that sweet spot for yourself.
swift prawn
Good evening, I would like to know if someone could inform me on what to take in legendaire to make a max of damage in quests and especially in the tower
molten sedge
I had a tank in a +15 PF getting 55k hits from the 3 slimes before the big group in front of tentacles. We are wondering what he was supposed to do ? any ideas?
mighty valley
The whole group has to interrupt
molten sedge
there were no casts before he died. He got legit oneshot at pull
mighty valley
On the Rotmarrow Slimes?
molten sedge
He say it was slimeclaw. The small ghoul like things
mighty valley
Oh, not the slimes
molten sedge
yeah mb
mighty valley
Their cast is brutal, but can be spell reflected
molten sedge
okay thanks
mighty valley
You either want them synced up so you can reflect them together
Or staggered so they don't hit simultaneously if spell reflect is down
molten sedge
okay i will tell him thank you very much
mighty valley
np!
prisma bear
@sick sentinel i absolutely wouldn't use glory in any dungeon other than SD and HOA. i'm not sure if its better than reprisal in there but i've been experimenting with it and I like it so far.. i need a non grievous week to be more sure
(because non blockable dmg is unusually high in there)
chrome falcon
@sick sentinel I'm currently experimenting with Glory+HR and it feels... ok?
I run with an extremely good ret pala and a priest so I just banner+PI him and he globals everything, good co-ordination seems essential as always
But you can get some insane uptime on it, it's a lot of fun
Reprisal is probably gonna be better for basically everything, I'm only doing 16/17s so going higher might be rough, but yeah. Feels ok.
prisma bear
i prefer bolster cause you can pair it with every banner and with that 50% more rage while last standed conduit you have really explosive openers with ravager and whatnot
chrome falcon
Yeah I forgot bolster lets them line up together
Feels like your single target damage with Glory is quite a lot better too
You have so much uptime on the strength/mastery/rage generation
prisma bear
single target is slightly ahead maybe but your overall will be lower for sure compared to reprisal
in a dungeon
significantly lower, your dps players have to make up for it
chrome falcon
Yeah, I guess
Probably Glory in some dungeons if you have cracked dps that you co-ordinate with
And a healer who knows how to max range you and dodge the buff
prisma bear
another problem with glory i find is that the classes i want that really love mastery cooperate very well with classes that hate mastery
for instance rets are absolute blasters with their 2 minutes as well and love mastery but havoc hates mastery which is good with ret
enhancement also is wonderful for us because windfury gives so much dmg and rage to prot specifically..... but they hate mastery big time
prisma bear
i traded away 2 IQD for my good karma and got my scale only in 20 or so runs this time around
as opposed to 50 or lord knows how much last patch
chrome falcon
I got scale from first vault last patch and i think that was all my good rng gone forever
prisma bear
i got heroic weapon and shield first week so cant complain 😄
oak lotus
All I want is a damn shield so I can uipgrade it to 246 😦
swift prawn
Good evening, I would like to know if someone could inform me on what to take in legendaire to make a max of damage in quests and especially in the tower
pastel sleet
Yeah reverb is fun for torg
swift prawn
which one is it?
blazing condor
Is Taragrue mythic a big bounce up from hc in terms of dps/heal/tank checks?
pastel sleet
@swift prawn do whichever one sounds fun. If quest content is your end goal, it doesnt matter at all.
feral thorn
My guild killed M Teragrue before killing heroic Painsmith, it's pretty easy
blazing condor
Aight coo
swift prawn
<@244550738288574474> do whichever one sounds fun. If quest content is your end ...
It is especially to be able to rush it in a minimum of time
pastel sleet
Reverb on packs of 5-8 is big damage.
Avatar + last stand + ravager -> revenge spam with reverb is a lotta damage
swift prawn
thx
burnt pawn
ello looking at the leaderboards i saw the russian prot thats r1 play best served itf and HR pushing keys. Would this be seen as this best build for these kinds of keys?
chrome falcon
@blazing condor Tarragrue is a loot pinata, if you don't kill it in 1 or 2 pulls just reroll powers. If your tanks are low geared they might need some good powers
I tried doing tarragrue with 4 dps powers and got absolutely slammed into the floor lmao
modern brook
R u Lil blocky
strong forum
yes
modern brook
I figured cause I saw your latest album drop 🔥
strong forum
strong forum
damn
severe temple
Should I ever take dragon roar for M+?
sly lintel
with Reprisal do I run bolster talent in keys?
strong forum
Should I ever take dragon roar for M+?
never
and you never run bolster with reprisal
chrome falcon
is storm bolt > double time situational or always
blazing condor
Bounding stride gang
I got double time personally
I really dont feel the need for the extra interrupt
sly lintel
and you never run bolster with reprisal
fair enough seems abit overkill with all that shield block
strong forum
yup
brave jetty
i like double time
chrome falcon
Any necrolord gang got thoughts on our soulbinds? I've just been running Emeni in everything but I haven't thought about it at all
glacial ivy
whats best torment powers to choose?
oak lotus
@strong forum what was your route for that SD?
brave jetty
only place I've really changed a route for very much w/tormented is DoS
brave jetty
you can have 3 powers before 1st boss if you choose with no real waste
it's nifty
tormented is 1000% better than prideful, good lord
strong forum
yeah
it doesnt fuck you over
except the frost guy
he fucking sucks
shit fucking powers
chrome falcon
Executioner is the homie i want barbs forever
sick sentinel
<@!179993058186625025> https://i.imgur.com/0efLWD9.png
Damn
Show us a breakdown
Thats alot of damooge
strong forum
lemme log
sick sentinel
I never go above 4 4
strong forum
i havent been below 4.9k today
sick sentinel
Aight brug
strong forum
was in soa i think
chrome falcon
What level was that?
sick sentinel
What shenanigans r u using
strong forum
6.3k in NW
6.1k in Sanguine
4.9k in SoA
5k in ToP
5.3k in DoS
i think that were my numbers today
chrome falcon
What kinda levels are you running
sick sentinel
Im doing 18s
strong forum
15-17s were that i think, cuz we're undergeard af
sick sentinel
I botched a nw pull on narzudah
strong forum
(also bad)
leaden basin
are people snapping tormentors in NW and SD?
chrome falcon
I'm managing 4.5k in 16s with Glory+HR but eugh I need real trinkets, I'm still using the exact same two trinkets I was using 5 weeks into 9.0
leaden basin
no pets in comp 😦
sick sentinel
What trinkets are you guys even using
strong forum
i was using decanter/phial/meathook
strong forum
cringe
chrome falcon
Give me anything else and I'll use it
strong forum
why would you run glory in m+
sick sentinel
I'm using scale plus the new cheat death
chrome falcon
Testing it
Everyone in here says it's absolutely dogshit garbage and that normally means it's ok
chrome falcon
Sure but I'm not failing a 16 either way
strong forum
Bolster is better in that case
chrome falcon
So I'm testing it
strong forum
no but its still 
chrome falcon
Gonna try Bolster next
sick sentinel
You should really play reprisal once you get the hang of it it is an extremely fun legendary
chrome falcon
I have played Reprisal, I only made Glory yesterday
And yeah, it kicks ass
But having a 90 second long banner also kicks ass
strong forum
brave jetty
I love thunderlord, miss it
chrome falcon
I wish I could wear thunderlord
strong forum
thats my dmg breakdown Twin
sick sentinel
Yeah it's the spear of Bastion that's making the difference
strong forum
? you venthyr or what
sick sentinel
strong forum
cringe
and bluepilled
but yeah, venthyr makes you lose alot of dps in m+
and with week 57 kyrian stonks are 📈
chrome falcon
i will defend banner but i gotta admit spear of bastion fuckin CRANKS
strong forum
i feel like they made it hit harder this patch
idk why
i feel like it does alot more dmg than it did in 9.0.5
chrome falcon
Do you need to last hit an enemy for War Machine to proc?
chrome falcon
hm interesting
doesn't matter either way because if i ever have to actually press devastate again i'm deleting my character but
ionic fern
o.o
strong forum
understandable
brave jetty
yeah i'm never not going to have devastator
i aint tryin to make room on my bars again
that's prime real estate
chrome falcon
i still have the passive icon for devastator on 1
strong forum
mine is still on 2
chrome falcon
exactly
my bars would look way too weird without that icon
its been there for like 7 expansions
wow yeah 7 expansions actually jesus
chrome falcon
SEE
brave jetty
i'm definitely not interested in not having devastator ever again though
wish they'd make it baseline
chrome falcon
Yeah
brave jetty
that said, i'm quite pleased with our spec these days
chrome falcon
yeah i think we're probably one of the best specs in terms of covenant balance
maybe even THE best
just sucks that over the last ~3-4 years we've had so many cool and fun things and most of them got moved to awkward talent rows or straight up removed, but core gameplay is really quite good
brave jetty
i think tank balance across the game is possibly as good as it's ever been
chrome falcon
yep
we're all just utility bots with slight differences in survivability and tankiness it's great
sly lintel
so what is more prio Shield block or IP and when do I spam Revenge , having diffucult making the call when you use it and not
strong forum
SB in like 99% of situations
sly lintel
And do I use more IP over Revenge?
strong forum
Depends entirely on the situation
sly lintel
I'm currently 198 ilvl so im getting rekt
strong forum
Ye that would do it
sly lintel
so focus more on IP
sly lintel
I'v been doing this
Bs-> Revenge-> IP when rage up
strong forum
I only use IP to avoid rage capping and when I know stuff will hurt/does unblockable dmg here and there
But with 198 ilvl everything hurts
sly lintel
yea
got him up this morning 😄
rocking full blues almost
maybe I shouldn't do like 7-8 keys
since they legit destroy me
strong forum
You can buy full 200 ilvl from AH
sly lintel
yea idk if I wanna fork out gold atm
turbid cargo
dat haste 🤘
sly lintel
yes!
strong forum
Also should've crafted reprisal on legs
sly lintel
yea I'll do that later just threw something on to get going
strong forum
Unless you're not gonna upgrade those 190s
sly lintel
I'm mostly only gonna do keys on this toon so idk if domination socket matter taht much then
strong forum
Dom sockets aren't on reprisal slots anyway
strong forum
I mean with 200 you should be fine in 7-10s I feel like
It's moreso the quality of player that is in those keys is what's hurting the most
Not your lack of ilvl
mighty valley
what is BS
sly lintel
SB*
fringe marten
You can get dom armor from the weekly time walking chest yes?
mighty valley
Yeah at 226
fringe marten
Can you get kt/sylv loot and get lucky 233's?
candid shadow
so i have been farming the scale in DOS in +10 to +14 ans on the second pack of the donjon i have been dying in every single one of them i need help i cant keepup like that
candid shadow
right