My poor warrior is still lvl 50
#protection
sweet summit
what a chad
fringe marten
So what is everyone taking for M+? I've been doing crumbling bulwark..the 10% aoe reduction..kings barbs and then the stone bulwark thing.
stone ward~ whatever that thing is.
blazing condor
I usually just take barbs, 10% interrupt dmg, the 5% vers one and the 20% shield
Pretty balanced pick
tardy osprey
the vers + damage reduction for a few seconds at combat start is good
blazing condor
Depends on the key though
Felt good with those on a 17
If i do lower id stack more dmg
fringe marten
yeah same as me.
lavish oracle
Pretty much what I take @fringe marten
fringe marten
that's crumbling bulwark (the first one)
lavish oracle
sometimes I go the magic damage reduction
like the end of halls because the last boss dot hurts
mellow bridge
I feel like the stand still and become empowered one would be pretty good if we didnt have to be charging/intervening around all the time
could be decent on some other tanks
amber herald
hr might help with that but it might not make up for losing AM
I had that thought today too
mellow bridge
taking less dmg upfront from the power -> then you get the buff from standing still sounds pretty good to me
but not for us warrs
could see it on stuff like bear or dk imo
graceful finch
good procs?
chilly brook
Imagine not using agi pots for the extra armor and crit
Smh
Amirite @sweet summit
sweet summit
nah u pot haste
sweet summit
😎
mellow bridge
get show of force or w/e it's called
sweet summit
Bro
fringe marten
that new condensed anima sphere is POG AF
sweet summit
Replace brutal vitality with unnerving focus
fringe marten
I'm kinda' wanting to run a key with Kleia..she has her 'new' tier unlocked and those skills are pretty solid...they aren't mikanikos solid..but
Are we going to get Soulglow Spectrometer and Reactive Retrofitting next week? or 2 weeks?
I don't even care what conduits he has..once those unlock it's Mikanikos the rest of the tier for me.
Why would you use those over stalwart guardian though?
for that defensive socket.
mystic warren
SR working as intended in spires
fringe marten
LOL is that from the birds?
mystic warren
yeah, managed to aoe reflect 6 casts on the spear pull
fringe marten
dude if you reflect enraged ..whatever that ability is..on the whole pack..holy SHIT
mystic warren
then popped spear right after
fringe marten
it's MADPAD
balmy coral
FML do I have to farm up new trinkets? Says I cannot upgrade them any further in M+
fringe marten
If you're moderately geared you can easily solo uhh? Watcher Yorrik...the eye in the rift, near the 'vault' entry or whatever on the island in Korthia.
Because his main channeled damage, you can reflect most of them...it's busted
Snaeb it's a new season.
timber slate
Why would you use those over stalwart guardian though?
i dont have anything else
look on the right lol
this character is 2-3 weeks old
fringe marten
ohhh
I thought stalwart guardian was one of the ones you got for free when you opened up kyrian? You get stalwart and Piercing verdict I thought?
timber slate
you get spear and 2 other meme conduits
fringe marten
ohh..boo.
I'm just legit thankful we're one of a few classes that's really just been able to start with a covenant and keep it through now as one of if not the best option.
Competitive mages have had to change races (for a day or so before they patched the new leggo) craft up a new leggo they never used...change covenenants and specs now..
timber slate
just did torghast, prot warrior are stupid strong lol
burnt pawn
i was looking at my stat weights a bit for pushing keys and raid prog. Besides farming vers and haste how much mastery should i be looking at if there is a guidline for it
sweet summit
There are no magical stat %s
sweet summit
Ilvl>haste>vers>crit/mast
burnt pawn
oh you put haste above versa?
sweet summit
Of course
burnt pawn
damn alrighty figured i needed pretty high versa for high content
ebon geyser
went NF 
sweet summit
Ive been fine with like 6-7% vers in 17s this week
burnt pawn
oh damn how high haste do you have?
sweet summit
Like 34% i think
burnt pawn
okay i really gotta work on that number then. Im currently running high versa which i prolly will keep on doing since im not confident enough running low yet :D
do you play high haste mid vers on everything or is that a tyrannical thing
or is it that the content isnt hitting hard enough yet
worldly ermine
I feel like we are really really tanky, would It be a Big dps increase to use seismic over reprisal? I have already checked the pins but I still have the doubt
On m+ I mean
sweet summit
Its the glass canon legendary
burnt pawn
i could definitely see the mikanikos with kyr leggo just to blast when ur doing boosts
worldly ermine
Im running fae
burnt pawn
yea that should be more dmg ^^
worldly ermine
Could natures fury be a bigger dps increase?
sweet summit
Seismic is better than that benne 👀
burnt pawn
yep it really is but i wont do fae i believe ^^
burnt pawn
its better dmg wise but overall id rather stay kyr tho i might have to go fae as my keys team dont have a fae soon maybe
burnt pawn
ya i loved playing it as fury tbh but i dont htink i will do keys as fury anymore. The moment i started tanking i wasn no longer allowed to dps in keys lmfao
worldly ermine
Got kyrian and venthyr leveled Up as well
sweet summit
Unlucky cant find one with natures fury
worldly ermine
But venthyr protect feels like a joke
nimble laurel
Like 34% i think
Are you running Ravager?
sweet summit
Ya @nimble laurel
worldly ermine
Oh damn
sweet summit
Ye seismic is huge
worldly ermine
Thanks a lot for the sims
sweet summit
I would take an educated guess and say seismic is better than natures fury for m+ damage
timber slate
seismic is now BiS?
sweet summit
Nah reprisal is overall better
worldly ermine
On boosts, maybe
worldly ermine
Reprisal is sick
sweet summit
But at the cost of big survivability loss
lilac sand
Is Mikanikos better than Pelagos now as far as damage goes?
worldly ermine
Going to sleep, thanks for the info, night night mates
sweet summit
Gn buddy
burnt pawn
erga do you always run Ravager AM for keys or would it not also be pretty good going Ravager with HR or Bolster if you know the extra defensive could be huge
timber slate
ravager is pog
burnt pawn
Ya i always take ravager its just the AM im a bit unceratain about for higher keys where survival is a bit dodgy
timber slate
AM?
burnt pawn
Anger management
sweet summit
BSC RAV AM everywhere
burnt pawn
you are afucking chad
dont even know what to say to that
fattest dick on the server
idk
unique shale
But venthyr protect feels like a joke
no
sweet summit
Imean 17s are not that high 👀
burnt pawn
nono not that high but if you said its your only tank set i kinda assumed it was for more than just 17s no ^^
but ill for sure try doing high haste build cuz i do see why it would be really good
unique shale
but ill for sure try doing high haste build cuz i do see why it would be really ...
haste pair very well for dps build
spamming that revenge fast feel so satisfying
burnt pawn
yea its just the defensive side that im questioning a little bit going into the higher keys. Hoping to time a 20 or at least a 19 this week but idk the ratios ill go for ill have to do some testing
unique shale
i running seismic but for defensive side reprisal is way cause i can feel it i need more SB uptime sometimes
burnt pawn
yea that i do get i could really see the dmg leggos being insane for key boosting
intend on making the kyr leggo for boosting asap
unique shale
yea that i do get i could really see the dmg leggos being insane for key boostin...
i did a lot of boost with seismic tho i not sure kyrain is big upgrade to dps
sweet summit
Its a lot worse
burnt pawn
with mikanikos and renown 57 its pretty good still
hoary crow
I’m struggling in 14s and reading 17s and 20s are not high? 
burnt pawn
im guessing you would run booming voice and just always throw it down with demo shout
sweet summit
Bsc is always better for damage in dungeons
burnt pawn
think it would be with mikanikos and kyr leggo even? you would get the dmg increase from demo shout on every spear
since its same cd on it then basically
burnt pawn
damn taht sucks a bit
unique shale
think it would be with mikanikos and kyr leggo even? you would get the dmg incre...
you can sim yourself always
burnt pawn
yea ofc will do that when its out but wont be too relevant before renown 57 anyway
unique shale
yea ofc will do that when its out but wont be too relevant before renown 57 anyw...
i usually do between 12-15k dps in 5 targets and 20-25k dps in 10 targets as venthyr prot warrior
you should be able to do higher as kyrain
burnt pawn
yea it should be pumping pretty well or rather it already is
on the big pulls i do i usually out dps my outlaw mate lmfao cuz uncapped
unique shale
sweet summit
Secret softcap
burnt pawn
kyr is blasting really hard imo
unique shale
condemn go brr on tryical week
burnt pawn
that i can imagine tho that must be pretty huge
unique shale
yeah i start pull with 6k dps
timber slate
recommended lvl for tazavesh?
limpid pawn
hey this may be a dumb question but - I got a refer a friend
i bought them shadowlands, they purchased game time themselves
recently i noticed that they name changed or did something but just completely ghosted me
like unfriended me and transferred their char out or something
which is funny b/c we never really even spoke much - but anyways is there something the guy could have done to like remove the raf benefits I'd be receiving?
distant crystal
olive fulcrum
Probably if you have hands
finite vine
this answer makes me want to go sleep instead
paladins have all the hands abilities
not me
sweet summit
burnt pawn
i tried high haste and gotta say it seems pretty damn good but for the high tank dmg keys i dont think me doing more dmg is worth since i cant do big pulls
unique shale
hey this may be a dumb question but - I got a refer a friend
yikes
better be with gold otherwise big offff
unique shale
Can I tank a 8+ in 200 gear?
if you studied guides then yes no then though luck
unique shale
i tried high haste and gotta say it seems pretty damn good but for the high tank...
you need a team for higher keys tbh
to communicate cds and etc and they get used to your route
i had hunter in pug who pulled cds in small packs which it was dumb but it can happen in higher keys too
mellow bridge
i tried high haste and gotta say it seems pretty damn good but for the high tank...
Changing some stats around isn't what is going to enable you to do big pulls
Or prevent you from doing them
unique shale
^
digital arch
i loved this trinket
grave raft
carmine oracle
It’s very doable
empty spindle
i loved this trinket
Very good trinket in keys
I feel pretty comfortable whilst tanking keys as of late
carmine oracle
I mained a Prot Paladin on shadowlands release and got KSM. I decided to give Prot warrior a shot and I feel like it is quite superior. Maybe my play style is better for it but I did DOS last night and I normally feel like I am Kiting so much it feels bad but with warrior it seems so much better didn’t have problems with the first or second pull. I am loving Prot warrior
distant crystal
brown > pink
outer solstice
any oef you tried going left in DoS?
dense gate
I mained a Prot Paladin on shadowlands release and got KSM. I decided to give Pr...
Im in same boat, 2k rio s1 as pally, warrior feels a lot more forgiving and can pull way bigger but also got less control over kicks and helping keep people alive so depends what you want to do really
outer solstice
Im in same boat, 2k rio s1 as pally, warrior feels a lot more forgiving and can ...
oh well we have massive control over kicks's i'd say
carmine oracle
Fully agree but I like the play style. And miss all my interrupts
carmine oracle
I haven’t gone left but someone mentioned doing it, what’s the advantage supposed to be? Easier pull before cool downs?
outer solstice
nah you get 2 powers before first boss
that's basically all
and the pulls are different
as you do 1st big pack
then mastk
mask
dense gate
Compared to paladin where you can solo kick like 2 mobs in each pack its def noticably worse in that dept but hardly matters when youve got 2 volcanic powers interrupting everything anyway
outer solstice
so your CDs are back up
carmine oracle
Ahh it was a plus 8 doing a + 10 mots tonight
outer solstice
Compared to paladin where you can solo kick like 2 mobs in each pack its def not...
yeah I think the way of kickign is different, we have massive AoE kicks for big packs
pally can do sustained kicks
on specific mobs ^^
like SD before first boss
have you ever taken both tick packs before the boss together?
🙂
dense gate
I played tauren pally so had war stomp and blinding light to cover just as much aoe stuff as warr. No that sounds too spooky lmao
outer solstice
oh well horde racisls op
dense gate
Dos left route is nice, can cut down on 1 pull by taking the raging spirit + pack outside ardenweald into urn with BL and it means youve got necrotic for hakkar. I think you also get access to volcanic powers for spicy ardenweald pulls too but not sure on that one
outer solstice
nah volcanis is in mechagon dude I think
isn't it?
you get the shield
you have the chains guy and the frost guy
before 1st boss if you go left
dense gate
Maybe. Frost guy is outside ardenweald and chains guy is inside right?
outer solstice
oh it was the fear guy
in ardenweald I think
the stack/spread one
yeah frost guy is on the ring
dense gate
Getting 15% magic DR early in dungeon def nice for warr too
mighty valley
does anyone know how to reset tazavesh after you get the hard mode necklace?
just hitting reset all instances isn't doing it
median tulip
any oef you tried going left in DoS?
No. In DOS with the Tormented Affix I go right, as normal, but go clear all the way around the ring (and dip into the first room of the gnomes wing) and then do ardenweald/broker first. This gives you all 4 anima powers before you even engage a boss.
modern brook
adamant vault is the look right?
fading quiver
has there been any updates on the banner bug?
cinder nova
has there been any updates on the banner bug?
Relax they're a small indie company
modern brook
what are the thoughts on the shackles of malediction
rather - is it worth the channel?
cinder nova
The 220 trinket?
No, it's dogwater.
Less damage than most on-use trinkets and twice the CD
nimble laurel
No. In DOS with the Tormented Affix I go right, as normal, but go clear all the ...
If you go left first, you can skip the trash in front of hakkar while still getting the tormented mob. You'll need to save time on trash so Lust isn't sitting off CD for so long.
timid urchin
Hi guys what is the threshold % of Haste for Prot warrior?
nova rover
Ok guys, so'asmi in hard mode... how do you get through that
timid urchin
like at what % of Haste should we stop, and delegate to other
distant crystal
there's not one
more vers if you're doing nosebleed keys and dying through mitigation
timid urchin
roger
jovial flume
does best served cold talent work with reprisal properly or is it only with blocks and parries?
digital arch
ban furys 1/2
dreamy rain
Hey guys for pug only, should I pick fae over Kyrian?
Or is that 9.0 stuff and 9.1 changes it?
jagged pier
9.1 doesnt really change it
jagged pier
does best served cold talent work with reprisal properly or is it only with bloc...
it works with the reprisal proc
jagged pier
like at what % of Haste should we stop, and delegate to other
39%
jagged pier
just hitting reset all instances isn't doing it
it should do thats how my group did it but then again i wasnt the one reseting, u can always use an alt though to get a full reset
mighty valley
it should do thats how my group did it but then again i wasnt the one reseting, ...
Yeah we ended up resetting it with an alt. Loved the dungeon, some banger bosses
mighty valley
Got literally no gear so I guess maybe some 233s next week might be nice lol
jagged pier
ooo 1500 rio is pinkish score never been this colour before 👀
jagged pier
Got literally no gear so I guess maybe some 233s next week might be nice lol
thats fair enough
for me i dont need anything expect the 1hand tmog
errant oriole
would the wall be good to run in mythic raid?
runic matrix
This is probably a very retarded question but i don't understand the wording of the reprisal legendary, "Revenge!, and generate 20 rage" - whats the revenge part about, it doesn't seem to read correctly to me? maybe i'm just being special
errant oriole
gives you the revenge proc
runic matrix
ah right ofc, ty 🙂
errant oriole
np
jagged pier
would the wall be good to run in mythic raid?
repirsals better
barren socket
is it possible to pull tormented mobs without aggro other mobs around it?
jagged pier
yer
digital arch
guys, where can i find a group for mitic plus 15+?
primal cape
is there a way i can see how many damages/heal Bron did on a whole dung ?
digital arch
i got 2,1k io 225 ilvl and dont have a group haha
primal cape
guys, where can i find a group for mitic plus 15+?
theres not so much 15 atm... im timing all 13 1st
digital arch
theres not so much 15 atm... im timing all 13 1st
this new patch, is hard the dgs?
i did a top 15 and we didnt pass the first boss ._.
digital arch
yeah, its sad this
jagged pier
im find groups fine not much issue
digital arch
u can see that i hate pf
jagged pier
but its ez
digital arch
i hate that haha
blazing condor
Pf is boooooring
digital arch
ill do all 14 first so
jagged pier
honestly ive only done 15s and higher this season theres no point is doing anything less
digital arch
i just wanna do all 15 more for look a group for +20
can u give me a good shield and sword for this transmog?
primal cape
this new patch, is hard the dgs?
tbh its not so hard
prob are bosses having 4M HP or more
with war prot we dont usually have problem tanking bosses, but its like 4min or more killing a single boss
jagged pier
the only issue u dont have the pride damage so ppl still try and skip mechanics which cant happen anymore
and its made some bosses
like mists first boss alot longer
i wouldnt say harder
but longer
digital arch
i didnt see any dg at momment
primal cape
yh people just going on flasks and taking a bath
digital arch
im looking for group only now
jagged pier
just pug thats what i do
blazing condor
Problem with tyrannical mists first boss is that people will mostly save cds for burn phase
So after the first burn
It’s looong to push the next burn phase
So it do be hurting eventually
median tulip
If you go left first, you can skip the trash in front of hakkar while still gett...
Do you not lose most of the time you save to the extra running about you have to do?
jagged pier
I did your way Zetakya this morning seemed fine to me
topaz dragon
Is ravager still the go in Keys?
jagged pier
Yes
median tulip
I did your way Zetakya this morning seemed fine to me
There's almost certainly more than one way to do keys this season; it's not as limited as correctly placing Prideful was.
So far, my rough observations on M+ routes are that DOS and ToP are the two where you can make routing changes to maximize the number of powers you get early on in the dungeon.
Necrotic Wake is the only one where you can make major changes to the route compared to Season 1 (you can and should do more of the trash early on in the dungeon, and skip hard packs later on more)
The other 5 there's basically nothing special; you just run the dungeon and kill everything along the route and there's not really a lot of brain power required
You can do the skip before the first boss in Sanguine Depths after pulling the first miniboss, and do the room pull to the venthyr pot later on to maximize the buff if you want to
silk crane
hey friends, does anyone know what night fae tree i should be using for M+ and raid?
primal cape
Korayn to DPS, Niya or Dreamweaver to stay alive
gritty brook
How do you use condemn? If you have free rage, go ahead and spend it, otherwise hold for other things like IP/block?
jagged pier
No u onlt use it in ST and o ly when u have sb up otherwise u dont use it
primal cape
Did you try using condemn with the war tank? How many damages you do?
With execute, you can go around 15/20k on crit
How many with condemn sir?
hallow smelt
Korayn to DPS, Niya or Dreamweaver to stay alive
Everything I read says don’t use dream weaver but i main fury and Don’t have the conduit energy to swap fury conduits to korayn or Niya so I set up weaver for tank. That is okay right?
jagged pier
I think its niya for NF like 99% sure
hallow smelt
I’m new to prot and have some probably stupid questions but I gotta ask - this is on the m+ guide:
Cast shield block as soon as you charge to get one of them in CD right away
But if I’m playing with reprisal shouldn’t I wait until the initial shield block is about to fall off before pressing it again?
little ermine
the duration stacks
hallow smelt
Ohhhhh
hallow smelt
Does it only stack with reprisal? Like I can’t press both charges together and get it to stack right?
little ermine
it does
empty spindle
So like what are the main picked anima powers
little ermine
you can have up to 3 times the base duration
empty spindle
😛
hallow smelt
So should I always just press it as mucu and often as possible?
hallow smelt
Ah yes I see
Okay
So in theory maybe on a pack I’m going to charge > SB > thunder clap > intervene melee > SB and then start DPS?
little ermine
with reprisal you have a free revenge proc
you want to use it before you intervene or charge again
little ermine
charge > SB > revenge > TC > shield bash > intervene melee > revenge
just make sure not to cap rage
solar crown
Doesnt TC still hit like a noodle? So i would still just press it if everything else is on cd
jagged pier
Shield block duration always stascks if u do something to add to it, upto 18 secs. But u shouldnt u should refresh as its runnig because u could waste effective uptime otherwise
jagged pier
Doesnt TC still hit like a noodle? So i would still just press it if everything ...
U want to use it on cd still and at the start of an aoe pull as it hits everything around
It generates rage dont forget
2 things u should always use on cd SS and TC
solar crown
But if you plan on intervene a dps i would do that to get another revenge
little ermine
then you would not get the cd rolling on TC
hallow smelt
My #1 concern starting to tank m+ is accurately following the correct path. Should I be using MDT to indemnify right paths early? I generally know them from being a DPS but don’t know exactly how many / which pack to pull
little ermine
you can find routes on raider io or mythictrap
jagged pier
Honestly nowadays u can just press w and youll be fine with your route tbh
little ermine
it's quite easy to understand what to do, and they are quite safe
jagged pier
U dont have to care about pride spawning and most dungeons literally give u count if u go from pack to pack
hallow smelt
Okay cool
unique shale
m+ right now is to get to anima mini bosses while trying not to go over 100% a lot
primal cape
But if I’m playing with reprisal shouldn’t I wait until the initial shield block...
Use this : https://wago.io/Y1PUe9h95
And i ofc recmmand this : https://wago.io/IgnorePainTracker/19
helps a lot
strong forum
Does it only stack with reprisal? Like I can’t press both charges together and g...
it stacks up to 18seconds
no matter the source
with Bolster talented, you can get above 18 seconds as the SB granted from Last Stand doesnt count torwards the 18sec maximum
fringe marten
Next week is going to be interesting; the tormenters aren't an issue atm; but they're going to hurt a lot next week...I can't wait for someone to get insta gibbed by the fire tormenter (people die to it NOW..it's ridiculous)
strong forum
why should they hurt next week?
fringe marten
they should get fortified boost
strong forum
no?
fringe marten
what?! really?
fringe marten
Why not?
strong forum
cuz theyre the seasonal affix
awakened didnt scale with fort
pride didnt scale with fort
why should tormented 
fringe marten
the azhara mobs didn't scale with fort? I thought they always did
fringe marten
Ok then nevermind...I was thinking they were going to get a bit spicier next week but oh well? good I guess.
severe temple
Tried to tank heroic bosses yesterday, but felt so squishy sometimes... Would impending victory be better than the hp increase talent with the impending victory conduit?
severe temple
Hm yeah
Is it better to use demoralizing shout with shield block or wait it to end first (using booming voice btw)
severe temple
if u have logs ill happly take a look
Look at eye kill
Stayed low for a lot of time during that fight
It was a kill but it was not clean
jagged pier
your blocked hits are fine but what is your build?
u should nt be running punish
devastor is far bette
fueld by violence and brutal vitaily are far worse than unerving focus and the new endurance conduit as well
severe temple
Devastator even in pure ST then?
jagged pier
yer the other talents are fine
tbh it looks like your healers are healing that much they all a bit low
tardy osprey
this discord is so wholesome, actually trying to help others improve. ❤️
woven bear
Is there a good weakaura for things that are worth spell reflecting? I'm never sure when to use it
lucid pasture
Can someone just quickly check over my logs and see if im doing anything majorly bad? First tier im raid tanking and I dont know if im doing something very wrong
jagged pier
cant see anything drastically wrong
primal rain
If I like giving PI, will I like Necro?
jagged pier
🤷
i mean necro prot gives less damage to the raid than a BM monk
so just p[lay that
or paladin
gentle oak
YO BOIS, we kyrian now?
jagged pier
always have been
real thunder
What are the best M+ powers to take from the mini-bosses? Is there a guide somewhere for what to take per dungeon if it's content dependant or are our best always the same?
strong forum
Just test it out yourself, you don't lose anything and it's part of the fun to figure it out
limpid kite
The tanknotes.com has recommendations
real thunder
thx
vocal carbon
Scale is still king of trinkets, right?
obtuse monolith
OWS and Aegis are BIS I think? Raid and M+ both?
ebon geyser
YO BOIS, we kyrian now?
NF
scale is better for raid if im not mistaken and aegis for M+ soul is great overall because haste is juicy
ionic fern
What are the best M+ powers to take from the mini-bosses? Is there a guide some...
Barbs. 😄
lucid pasture
cant see anything drastically wrong
Tanks for checking (kek) if I go and do an m+ or two could you check the logs from there aswell?
Prolly not now tho
real thunder
jeez Mwahi, now can you make sure that is always on the closest mini-boss at the start of each dungeon?
make it happen sir
make it happen
ionic fern
I had it on my 3rd one. 😦
jagged pier
Tanks for checking (kek) if I go and do an m+ or two could you check the logs fr...
sure
real thunder
M+ question, I'm currently at 22% haste and 16%vers. I'm thinking verse is better right now for me because reprisal gives me a ton of SB uptime and verse just helps passively with damage reduction and damage. Opinions?
jagged pier
no
haste is more rage
which in turn is more DR than vers will give u
and also 99% of suvivability comes from play
ive been timing 15s-17s this week with like 8% vers
real thunder
k, thanks
gloomy cradle
Afaik vers only starts gaining value at significantly higher key levels where getting one shot becomes a real concern
Relative to haste that is
jagged pier
not really then tbh nerf did 24s in 9% vers
gloomy cradle
I run like 7% vers and 28 or so haste and have had no issues either
For sure
I’m in complete agreement, but I do think the value grows as keys get higher
Although clearly it’s not a strict requirement
mental scarab
We have shield block 😎 not a vers tank
timid coyote
I am usually a DPS but I'll be tanking this weekend for my guild be cause they need battleshout and the usual warr tank is away. I have the gear to do it but would like recommendations for tank guides and good video content. I have checked pins but wanted some discord input
median tulip
I am usually a DPS but I'll be tanking this weekend for my guild be cause they n...
Normal or HC?
median tulip
Ah. Can't hel;p you myself, haven't got past him yet
spark heron
With covenant leggo's are there sims of which one will bring the most dps to a key? Assuming for a second reprisal is unnecessary
jagged pier
seimic
lunar jackal
If ur going for dps completely ditching reprisal then seismic is better than the covenant
jagged pier
the cov leggos do not do much damage at all
winged wind
any suggestions on which anima powers to select in M+?
jagged pier
whichever u like
sick sentinel
I like the fifth skull, the absorb shield, the burrs one, and the 10% damage reduction one
I forget the names honestly
cinder nova
Timed a +19 NW with my Heart of Azeroth equipped.
inland raft
I like the vers one
cinder nova
Since I wear it for WPVP cheese on my server when I'm outside the SL.
Smoothbrain tech new meta
timid coyote
Timed a +19 NW with my Heart of Azeroth equipped.
Give your healer a raise
cinder nova
:^)
I would, but the guild I'm in simps hard for me and if I show them any positive praise they only get emboldened.
jagged pier
🔫
cinder nova
Basically
I wish blizz had like a squirt gun or spray bottle toy
Or like a newspaper I can hit them with
inland raft
so for dps, domination gear at heroic is worth taking over max ilvl without, does that hold true for prot?
jagged pier
ys
mellow bridge
what the fk
mellow bridge
I like the fifth skull, the absorb shield, the burrs one, and the 10% damage red...
fifth skull seems incredibly useless to me
I tried it out in some dungeons now
just did a mists 16 with double pulls whenever possible and it did 88 dps with 145 hits
dont think I'll take that again
hollow sun
yeah
i tried it with the slime pull before first boss in plaguefall and it was very underwhelming
mellow bridge
like the 5% vers wouldve been about 250 dps for me
since i did 5k overall
and it has defensive value + the dmg reduction on start of the pull
mellow bridge
that's not the same guy
mellow bridge
interrupt is ice guy
skull/vers is fire guy
it's skull, vers+dr or mastery/crit iirc
and I'm not a big fan of mastery/crit 🤷♂️
hollow sun
tbh every power except for the barb king is very underwhelming
i hope they introduce some more
mellow bridge
barbs are pretty sexy idd
amber herald
is barbs better than the stand still one?
cinder nova
Barbs varies.
Don't bother with barbs if Executioner is super late in the dungeon
I suppose you can if you wanna be lazy, but it feels better if Executioner is super early like grabbing them soon in DOS when you do Ard
mellow bridge
stand still one feels awkward considering how we play with reprisal
stiff gate
For DoS you just go clockwise and do Hakkar last imo
The only weird part is the patrolling rage guy on the left side ends up lining badly if you don’t have distract from a rogue
distant crystal
you do the full ring dipping into gnome zone
then ardenweald and dealer
so you have 4 powers before first boss
stiff gate
What power do you get from the guy in gnome wing I can’t remember which
distant crystal
it'll change each week i think but lemme see this week
amber herald
it's soggodon in DOS I think
stiff gate
Cuz there’s only like 2 powers that matter so if you can get those without having to backtrack it’s probably not worth to do all the running to get the other 2
distant crystal
ya it is
amber herald
it seems like the only two worth getting are executioner and firemage for the dps powers
distant crystal
I don't think you have to kill anything but the lieutenant in gnome zone
amber herald
the others aren't such a big deal to me
stiff gate
Barns for tank and necro/axe/plumage for DPS are the only ones even remotely noticeable unless your healer is struggling for mana
Barbs*
distant crystal
we pulled haywire guy first but we didn't realize it was no social in that run
Shield one for dps makes em livelords
cinder nova
how are people doing DOS I've not done it yet
You go around the ring for all the Lt. and then you dip into Mecha for Soggodon, and then start Ardenweald > Mecha > Zul'Gurub
It's smoothbrain easy now
amber herald
nice I like smoothbrain easy
cinder nova
We were 1 minute from 2 chesting a 16
amber herald
SD is also smoothbrain now, literally just hold W
amber herald
yeah
stiff gate
I dunno if adding an extra minute of pathing through the dungeon is worth getting the survival powers. At least on a 17 the only thing scary was accidentally pulling the rage guy into the caster pack on the left side
distant crystal
are ya'll having a ranged grab left lieutenant before first boss in NW
amber herald
Them removing the doubts putting down the huge pools is so good
cinder nova
No, we skip past boss first, do Lt. then boss
distant crystal
You can also tag the upstairs guy and snap him down from platform behind first boss, but it's obnoxious and that guy has bad powers this week
but will likely be the play if there's good powers up there another week
stiff gate
That sounds really convenient since I typically skip most of that room (where the frost guy is)
distant crystal
frost boi
cinder nova
Oros
Oh, dude even on Tyrann Amarth is a joke
We ++ a 16 NW because we two-pulled Stitchflesh's room.
Because we had orbs.
Both of em
stiff gate
For the necropolis I typically grab the back left pack with the big patrol and orb, but have a lot of trouble getting any of the other three groups together for another big pull afterwards
How do you get the crafters to come in lol
They just sit there spamming throw flesh from 40 yds
amber herald
you have to interruppt and then be physically close to them
distant crystal
ya you can deadzone em right
stiff gate
Okay
amber herald
and then you can't move them very far until they try and cast again
there's a number of mobs that work that way they're pretty annoying
cinder nova
They just sit there spamming throw flesh from 40 yds
Orb silences them
Our hunter uses MD on me and traps the patrol so they're stacked on the left-hand pack
Then hits the right-hand pack and pulls the entire thing inward.
Druid typhoons the crafters up a bit and I can leap/charge onto them with orb ticking to walk them into the main stack give or take.
But with all our CDs + Orb + Ashen they don't stay up for long.
turbid moth
fo i change my bis 229 for random 229 ?
primal cape
im really thinking going bolster for m+
mellow bridge
why would ya
primal cape
gonna give it a try
pastel sleet
anyone got a link to a resource on trinkets for prot war? i got a 229 bloodspattered (kinda hype) should i use valor on it next week or will it be replaced by raid/tazavesh trinket
strong forum
scale for raid
aegis for m+
its still a good trinket
aegis is just better in alot situations
pastel sleet
what about non on use trinkets? is there a prio list somewhere?
strong forum
the list is pretty short
would be that the defense matrix is good, old warrior soul is good, anima field emitter is good, phial of putrification is good
pastel sleet
alright. so same as last seasion plus like 3 raid trinkets. got it
cinder nova
Basically
Harmonic Crowd Pummeler seems good on paper, but in sustained cleave it's had pretty mixed performance.
woven bear
Doesn't warri have a second life like dh?
grand drum
nope
strong forum
never did
oak lotus
The one you prefer
untold plank
because i have venthir last patch in fury
strong forum
theyre all fine in raid
untold plank
but in the end of the patch i swap to protc
strong forum
in m+ you want kyrian or nf
untold plank
must have or can i keep venthir?
strong forum
venthyr is the worst in m+. but you will be fine if you dont push ultra keys
for just casual play venthyr is perfectly fine
untold plank
because if i change i need level up again the cov
untold plank
okay ty
venthyr its okay anw
but if i want change for mithyc the best recomendation is night fae right?
strong forum
kyrian>=NF
strong forum
ya
grim geyser
1-40 goes really fast yes
untold plank
already change it
turbid horizon
Harmonic Crowd Pummeler seems good on paper, but in sustained cleave it's had pr...
only 1 proc per minute, its pretty bad
cinder nova
Weird because it sims great
inland raft
In pf how close is coldheart to yhe slimeclaws? Havnt been in there yet but trying to plan it out
lucid pasture
having 31% base haste
is that aight
cause im sitting at 12% vers 31% haste
and dunno if i should go for some more vers instead
strong forum
looks good to me
amber herald
just pull them with coldheart I think
mellow bridge
yeah playing him solo is a waste of time
does 0 tank dmg if you dodge the swirlies anyway
so you can easily take some trash with him
nimble laurel
Just have to keep the slimeclaws from running to pull the pack on the stairs if you're taking the river route.
fresh ruin
what is the last potency conduit i should use
i am kyrian, using Show of force, Stalwart, Piering verdict, and Brutal vital
fresh ruin
ADAPTIVE ARMOR?
jagged pier
yes
fresh ruin
ty, sorry for caps
opal pulsar
Hey guys. The best dmg pot is fantomatic fire ?
nimble laurel
What trinket are y'all planning to use secondary to aegis/scale?
barren socket
physical dot is kinda cringe tbh
unique shale
What trinket are y'all planning to use secondary to aegis/scale?
probably yes but its kind of overkill to use two defensive trinket unless you are pushing 20 above
nimble laurel
probably yes but its kind of overkill to use two defensive trinket unless you ar...
I wasn't asking about wearing both
unique shale
I wasn't asking about wearing both
in what dungs or raid ?
nimble laurel
in what dungs or raid ?
Dungeons
unique shale
Dungeons
i probably going to use Decanter of Endless Howling, Tormented Rack Fragment or Overwhelming Power Crystal
Old Warrior's Soul can be good too but i see no use for it in dungs
lucid pasture
guys what do i do here, i have this helm
but i just got this one
is it worth switching them
and then socketing a shard of cor?
unique shale
it is easy choose 233 with socket
unique shale
and then socketing a shard of cor?
check pins for shards
lucid pasture
its the only shard i can socket there anyways
unique shale
i not sure if you can swap or change shards but if you cannot i would wait until i get one i want to socket in it
lucid pasture
you can
lucid pasture
only got jas cor and tel rn
sweet summit
No idea which ones that is 
sweet summit
O really
lucid pasture
unique shale
you have to keep tap target XD
sweet summit
lucid pasture
big money maker
sweet summit
I have 1 (((:
unique shale
I have none XD
lucid pasture
i wanted to give my head to one of our players that had 3 unholy shards already
couldnt cause ilvl :))))))))))))))))))))
sweet summit
Nice
lucid pasture
- he gave bis chest with blood shard bonus
unique shale
he my fren :<
even if you have to give him/her scale XD
fringe marten
I see the block animation when painsmith hucks his weapon at me; is the initial strike on that mitigated with block?
ebon geyser
did they fix the wb ? does it complete the quest now
autumn fable
yes
uneven river
Got my scale, first DOS of the season
Haha me too brother all luck gone for the season
red plover
Question. Is everyone raiding with Reprisal or the Wall? I know boht are good but just getting some opinions
gilded sierra
I raid with the wall myself. Raid - wall, mythics - rep
spiral void
I raid with the reprisal except on some fights, like the Eye, and i switch to the Wall for more SW
quiet crane
reprisal is the only thing you should be running as its the most optimal
but you can succeed with the wall aswell if you dont wanna be zoomy boy
fresh ruin
QUESTION, with domination socket gear relying on crit, does that change our stat priority from haste/verse to more crit?
carmine prawn
Prolly not, haste is still our best stat (without sacrificing ilvl) until the magic number
ripe quiver
hey guys whats the average shield block uptime percent wise that people are having with heavy repercussions?
plush tendon
SB uptime isn’t what counts, look at % of hits blocked
In this case between 85%+-5?
nimble laurel
is there a way to check % blocked in details?
analog radish
is the Wall viable for Mythic+ players? What slot should I be crafting it in?
I have Thunderlord rank 4 but I'm reading that it's not that great in practice.
misty timber
is there a way to check % blocked in details?
I don’t think so. Have to log. I have a weak aura I made that does track this for m+ though. Can share when I’m at PC
lilac bloom
i'm doing heroic SOD.. is it the best leggo is reprisal? cause at the moment ii'm just using the wall
thats what i heard from wowhead
analog radish
icyveins says reprisal is best for m+ while the wall is still the top dog for raiding, but idk cuz i don't raid
lilac bloom
ok.. i used reprisal before its ok.. but as it goes up i had to use wall
carmine prawn
Anyone has tanked heroics the nine? Skyja is hitting ridiculously hard even when i have shield block up. Any tips to go around that in the event hard cds are down for the count?
crystal dirge
Use your demo shout, dont waste block charges when not tanking, and coordinate bark-sac-PS with your healers
She should be hitting okay-ish tho
You can use spell reflect for 20% reduction from some aoe mechanics
turbid cargo
just did, normal
carmine prawn
Use your demo shout, dont waste block charges when not tanking, and coordinate b...
Thing is, the other tank was kinda using all the other externals and i pretty much have to fend for myself even on 2-3 stacks of the debuff
modern brook
Sounds like your other tank should be in a discord asking how to handle the fight :(
carmine prawn
He claims to be getting trucked by mini eye's piercing lens, even with 1 ironfur up
candid shadow
Can we sim for prot ? Or should we go for ilvl ?
modern brook
Ilvl
Sim is possible for damage
But this early on I'd suggest just hammering ilvl
And when you start getting sidegrades Sim for damage
swift kettle
Is venthyr even semi viable?
modern brook
Yes
It's even gully viable
No covenant gives something prot can't live without
Venthyr just gives the least comparatively
swift kettle
rgr... im and M+ tank and A fury raider so im trying to figure out which way i should go
im currently necrolord
modern brook
If ur dps as fury, you're inting if you don't go ven
To my understanding
Either way you can comfortably do whatever you need for your fps spec
swift kettle
its sad because i love necro so much i would be prot but my new guild doesnt need a tank..
modern brook
Yah don't think about what could been just get your ape brain put and start condoomin
potent basalt
How much value has Strenght over Stats?
Usually i say: Up to 3, its ok and at 6 or more, change.
Im asking bc ive two itempieces with Crit/Mastery at an ilvl of 229. My actual Items habe 226 and Haste/Versa. I would go from unbuffed 23 Haste and 23 Versa down to 17% Haste and 16% Versa. Crit would go up from 6 to 11 and Mastery from 22 to 24.
jagged pier
Ilvl is always king
Even at 3 ilvls
Stats really dont mean nothing at all 95% of your suvivability comes from play 4.95% group play around up .04% otherstuff, like .01% stats
potent basalt
Uhm ok. It Just feels so bad loosig so much Tempo :(.
My other Question is:
Ive three Rings. 223 Haste/Versa from NW, 229 Haste/Mastery from DoS and 226 Crit/Versa BOE from CN. Ive equipped the first two and if i change the Haste/Mastery one with the last one i would go from 23 Versa uo to 27 but loosing 4% down to 19% Haste.
Is it worth?
obtuse monolith
“ILvl is king” because iLvl = +Sta, +Str, +Armor, +Secondary.
Neck and Rings are the slots where it’s a bit different due to no Str/Armor. You are still gaining the Stam and more Secondaries but that one’s closer
jagged pier
rings and neck are generally feelcrafty to your liking, however at around 10-15 ilvls, it is just an upgrade as more stats > less better stats
brave jetty
Has anyone done Painsmith heroic?
We started trying to cheat the spikes a little bit by not being totally in the corner for the big hits, for the second weapon onwards
It helps melee get to balls faster but it also hits the raid a little harder
cinder roost
Ball should almost be dead by ranged when reaching middle imo, don't think it's worth the extra damage on raid specially with mines to detonate shortly after.
@brave jetty Does your raid have trouble killing the ball fast enough?
cinder roost
You're on Tichondrius (US)?
formal grail
Has anyone else noticed pain smith meleeing right before/during the axe throw if you’ve taunted him a little earlier? I got slapped for full hp as I still had the old debuff but SB/IP up. 😅
cinder roost
Looks like it happened on a few tries looking at my logs but never killed me
I always charge/interv before taunting (or just press SB 😄 )
Otherwise I would be dead cause I did take 65k
chilly brook
@jagged pier it's Tol Dagor all over again
jagged pier
👀
cinder roost
@formal grail So yeah from what I saw if you taunt when your co-tank get the debuff but he hasn't started casting yet you get melee
Shouldn't die with SB up but still hurt for nothing
Good to know 🙂
formal grail
Yeah I feel like I'll start taunting when the channel starts but it would make the boss move. maybe I'll charge/intervene too and prep some cd for that one melee hit. Also, I hate being the tank having to deal with placing the axe in the corner mid spikey balls
pine cypress
How strong is the Inscrutable quantum device?
jagged pier
not really strong
pine cypress
K, ill just keep it for my deeps set, thanks 🙂
formal grail
<@!161112147429031936> So yeah from what I saw if you taunt when your co-tank ge...
Maybe going into normal SoD as a 203 warrior wasn't a good idea either, i was fine up until those melee chonky hits 😄
crystal dirge
You want to taunt painsmith from a few steps distance
He will have to walk before he has time to melee and start the cast
formal grail
tricky timing then but thats a good suggest
woven bear
I just started playing prot recently and I'm wondering when I should use IP? I always try to have it up for big hits but I don't have enough rage to do it. Usually guides just show the dps rotation
urban portal
I mean if you need it to live then use it
Jsut make sure you exhausted other options first
woven bear
@urban portal as using shield block first or how do you mean it?
lime urchin
Dont use it, unless you have shield block up and have mucho rage to spare and for some reason don’t wanna slap with revenge.
warped moth
Ravager's rage generation doesn't scale with number of mobs right? It just gives rage per tick regardless of targets?
strong forum
Ya
orchid frigate
hmm the last anima power dude in SoA.. I cant reliably pull him without getting the mobs in front of him in combat. is it supposed to work with los behind the ledge of stairs?
jagged pier
u can pull him fine
edgy belfry
max range heroic throw and leap away from him right away
edgy belfry
you dont need to line of sight him
orchid frigate
hmm
edgy belfry
orchid frigate
ok ill try
golden basin
silly question, but is there any reason why so many high-ranked prot warriors are venthyr right now? offspec for raid maybe?
orchid frigate
max range heroic throw and leap away from him right away
what do i do if i play a less mobile tank?
edgy belfry
someone else can pull him
mage with blink, dudu with wild charge, hunter easy peasy, there is always a way i believe
orchid frigate
ok thanks!
strong forum
silly question, but is there any reason why so many high-ranked prot warriors ar...
theyre dps for raid
misty basin
hi guys
my friend has %25 shield block buff uptime in dungeon. is it normal or too low?
misty basin
yes
vernal grove
fathom spindle
Then it’s waaay to low i’m afraid.
Must be a nightmare to heal
misty basin
okay thanks. gotta talk to him
fathom spindle
Worst thing is, it’s also a huge DPS loss not to take full advantage of Reprisal.
You’ll lose DPS and mitigation
jagged pier
my friend has %25 shield block buff uptime in dungeon. is it normal or too low?
thats really really low but uptime doesnt really tell us much do u have logs?
main wasp
has anyone been able to test if the Blood Link shard of dom set is AOE or ST?
jagged pier
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nwvCyx7qHkm6GRrV#fight=6&type=casts&source=...
well this is a raid log so cant really say in terms of a dungeon, but he is defiantly doing stuff wrong even in raid, even down to talent choice and conduit choice.
so lets start with talents, the talents hes running in the raid log are the correct talents for mythic+, however in a raid situation he wants to be running booming voice and into the fray, instead of best served cold and ravager
conduits - hes using brutal vitality which is the 4th best endurance conduit for us. he should be running unvering focus which is by far our best conduit.
outer bronze
yo, how much are we simming ST with a max ilvl profile atm?
jagged pier
his blocked hits which is the big thing is like 60% on tarragrue from what i see which is very low, i had a look at my log from our normal run (as we are start hc tonight) and on normal without tracking my shield block i was at about 80% blockedhits
which means hes number one not using shield block correctly. and also fomr looking at his casts he not using his legendary alot ither, which both contribute to the low blocked hits
for instance he intervenes once in 5 mins
he can intervene on cd or when hes tanking the boss to increase though blocked hits.
sweet summit
yo, how much are we simming ST with a max ilvl profile atm?
less than bdk afaik 
just under 6k
outer bronze
just under 6k
cool thanks. so around 5.5k without exec?
jagged pier
his cd useage is also a bit off but its the first 2 bosses but he dont use them much at all like 1 cast of shield wall even though u could use it 3-4 times during the fight
in general his casts our pretty low, i know the tarrague has some the kiting stuff so all CPMS are a bit scuffed, but if i segment my log and your log im generating a lot more rage in the same amount of time, i do have the added im a kyrian so will do that over a necro but hes not pressing SS or TC on cd from what i can tell which is pretty bad @misty basin
sweet summit
probably somewhere around there, yeah
edgy belfry
@jagged pier how did you get to 60% pls? seems like i am not looking at logs properly then
jagged pier
damage taken > hits column hover over it
well its 68%
but with reprisal on a very standard taunt swap boss thats a bad amount of blocked hits
edgy belfry
ty
golden basin
is prot or brm more reliant on healer?
rustic relic
ebon geyser
is prot or brm more reliant on healer?
both are reliable on healer imo
heavy gate
Yeah I do but sometimes ui gets in the way yanno
errant sparrow
Mouseover macro with intervene and charge on it. Charge your target, unless you mouseover an ally then intervene instead. Very handy
pine cypress
Are there any resources that will help me learn which mobs in dungeons are the dangerous ones or need to be focus fired/interrupted? and what the generic routes most groups take?
In S1, I really didnt do a lot of M+s, so i dont have that ingrained in me super well currently
pine cypress
Oh it does? Fabulous, I will need to study that, thanks so much 🙂
blazing condor
Big tip is to download MythicDungeonTools addon and use that to make your own routes and get understanding of the dungeons. You can right click every mob to see what they do and what theyre affected by (like cc) etc
And also just experience. Just run a lot of dungeons and you’ll get it
pine cypress
I think I downloaded that a while back and never did anything with it, will need to learn its ins and outs
primal cape
just timed nw16 soa15, i have no routes atm tbh
pine cypress
Im a little behind the curve on M+s there,
blazing condor
Both NW and SOA are pretty nice rn cus you dont really need to have any new routes this season
For NW i just go left side for first boss then run it like you would in s1
primal cape
the only change i made atm is DOS, i do both anima boys inside, then go back to hakkar
winged wind
if I run the Wall in in raids which Tier 7 Talent should I use?
winged wind
ok, use AM and SW as often as possible...
strong forum
pmuch
if youre tanking for longer periods of time, Bolster
but i recommend using Reprisal instead as it offers more block uptime for almost the same SW CD
albeit it being harder to play
primal cape
for example my SOA is this atm :
You should try to get some packs to get %
I feel i could pick some mobs between red/green on top but ill see later
strong forum
huge
lilac bloom
dont know whats going on
theater of pain
first boss.. getting killed by it cos of extra mob that it spwans..
and randomly killing my group
dont know what the heck is going on
and ican't seemto taunt it
drifting oasis
213 [Macabre Sheet Music] or 229 [Slimy Consumptive Organ], what do you reckon I should choose for M+ and Raiding? (to go with my 213 [Anima Field Emitter])
lilac bloom
so i guess its not me
muted arch
yo what powers y'all picking in keys
drifting oasis
even for raiding?
lilac bloom
cos i thought it might be me not taunting or something
strong forum
yes even for raiding
drifting oasis
cheers
strong forum
cos i thought it might be me not taunting or something
no, it spawns and CCs one of your party members, you have to CC the mob and it vanishes again
just shockwave, stormbolt or intimidating shout it
and youre gucci
strong forum
its a boss mechanic
lilac bloom
its not easy as it use to before
made it so hard
bosses are running around like crazy
strong forum
🤷♂️
lilac bloom
i'm like hitting interupting everything i can .. but ppl keeps dying
especialy the heaelrs
strong forum
🤷♂️ shit group
lilac bloom
well.. ok.
winged wind
I don't understand why they reintroduced the stealth boss again, the three already hit hard enough as it is...
jagged pier
i mean is it really that hard to charge and stun or charge and fear it?
strong forum
the stealth dude does nothing
sick sentinel
has there been any hotfixes yet?
jagged pier
for what?
sick sentinel
tazavesh
jagged pier
🤷
sick sentinel
refuse to log in till there is a patch that specifically addresses bugs in there
blazing condor
see you never
jagged pier
i mean just nuke the boss
sick sentinel
if you wipe to mail room, you can't use the bombs any more
even if all 5 players log out
jagged pier
watched some ppl do it last night they just 1 tank 4 dps'd it
sick sentinel
we tried that too, still couldn't interact with bombs
carmine prawn
for my group, each player only interact with 1 bomb, no cross interatcion
it kinda worked
sick sentinel
first time pulling that boss, twice, per fresh start, i was able to have the bomb on back, and i could do, something with it had a circle
after that, something to do with i died with it on back maybe? but i couldn't get another bomb or interact with it, or it would be interactable for 0.25 seconds
that is a group wipe mechanic, and you have to kill him to progress, so it bricks the entire dungeon
lilac bloom
i dont understand... i'm doing haolls.. never have it been so bad like this
all i did on 2nd boss was ppl stack.. for the adds
then they blame me
like what the hell is going on
like i can' t play this dungeon anymore
they all blaming on warrrior tanks
oak lotus
You prob got lept on and wiped group because you're unaware
sick sentinel
i saw someone else another tank some group playing the dungeon and he was able to pull 2 packs with ease probably asmons stream, and they stream rolled the dungeon like nothing
lilac bloom
everyone stack on me to bring adds in .. i move away from bloods tahts it
sick sentinel
i go in like 3 times and get face caved in
lilac bloom
i dont know whats going on
the patch made warriors weak on mythic dungones
and all the rest
my leggo at the moment is still 230 something..maybe i should go and do more torghast to get to 240 something
because i have no idea.. why am i dying so hard on this.. i'm 227 and i'm still dying
oak lotus
You're pl;aying wrong. I'm 222 and I have all my 15s and some 16s done for the week. I also pugged them
lilac bloom
i dont know the hell i'm doing
sick sentinel
how am i not playing right against a glitch that causes a wipe
lilac bloom
yah will do next time.. so sick of this
grand drum
if you wipe to mail room, you can't use the bombs any more
For the mail boss saved cds and hero for when bombs came out and burned boss
Didnt do bombs
sick sentinel
not enough dps, didn't work
lilac bloom
everytime someone gets leaped on they die.. but they didnt' stack on me..
then they blame me for not doing mechaincs.. who knows maybe i should leap over to them since they dont come to me
and i had a guy pulled a gargoyle b4.. cos he thought that i should tank it and then can venthyr it.. instead.. he pulled with me tauting the 2nd boss
sick sentinel
that dungeon is a pain, every pack with the dogs the dogs do a bleed and the human besides them does a cast that increases damage 125% on dogs
lilac bloom
yah i ran away with that.. and healer tries to chase after me then
sick sentinel
only way i know of to remove bleeds is with kyrian potion, probably an alch potion too
lilac bloom
i know how to do deal with running away..
i use kyrian too
but somehow.. u use it too much .. u wont have enough for the other fights
sick sentinel
do you just run bleed immunity default if you run halls?
lilac bloom
is that a talent