It is indeed EZ, if ppl know some mechanic and not just how to pump dmg
#protection
tropic linden
modern brook
people dont even know how to pump damage 🤷♀️
tropic linden
Which is not many ppl in PUG groups
jagged pier
They can pump dps into the plagueborers
modern brook
It is completely unfun to do any content with an uncoordinated group period
Especially as a tank
rancid ember
You can do a mix route where you're not using PB's for everything. Also PUB's dont really affect your ability to use PB's to kill shit
All comes down to the tank
modern brook
All comes down to the tank
prot needs a rogue or dh that knows what they're doing to make sue of most pb pulls
rancid ember
Worst case scenario your pubs die to the pb explosion, best case they did some dmg while you set it up
Why?
You don't have to CC the 2 pack if you don't want to, just use both
modern brook
well actually any 60s CC would work
blazing condor
PF is boring asf
tropic linden
prot needs a rogue or dh that knows what they're doing to make sue of most pb pu...
Or mage
rancid ember
I wouldn't recommend abusing the mini boss PB's on the 2nd bosses trash unless your in an actual group
I would use PB's before the mini boss to kill some trash / 40% pride, and the PB's mixed with trash after 1st boss
modern brook
🤷♀️ the point here isnt "how do i use Plagueborers when my team isnt at their keyboards"
tropic linden
I have rlly hard time getting out of the PB explosions. I jump 1 time, intervine second time, third time i'm fucked
modern brook
its that a) PF is less dumb than soa (my opinion) and b) games not fun with pugs (objective fact)
rancid ember
I'm just saying PF is fun as a tank IMO 🙂
modern brook
I have rlly hard time getting out of the PB explosions. I jump 1 time, intervine...
just walk to the edge when the circle appears
tropic linden
just walk to the edge when the circle appears
But i'm slowed 😦
rancid ember
Wouldn't your leap or Intervene be back up by the time you did a 3rd explosion tho?
Not like they're going off rapid fire or anything
modern brook
But i'm slowed 😦
it looks like this
where green is your plagueborer boom, black are the dudes, and you're the last guy
rancid ember
Just sit out 1 set if that's the case. Otherwise Blessing of Freedom / PB Interrupts like DB from mage is great
modern brook
plz dont insult my inability to work within paint
tropic linden
it looks like this
Yeah, that's the goal. But they cast at melee rnge, not that far
modern brook
5 yds is a lot
you're either underestimating how close melee is or overestimating how far you need to be out of the circle
tropic linden
it looks like this
I'm usually inside the green, close to the middle, at the begining of the cast
modern brook
you have a LOT of leeway
tropic linden
yeah, maybe that
modern brook
I'm usually inside the green, close to the middle, at the begining of the cast
you can preempt the back up if you're having issues with that
they explode at % threshold i think its like
30
IDR off hand
so as they get lower start walking them away
emphasis on walking
you're not trying to pull them out of things, you're trying to not be in a circle
tropic linden
Will try next time. Tks
rancid ember
Cardboard assassin can be really nice for setting up PB Bombs too, but that's getting nerfed in 9.1 anyways
modern brook
But i'm slowed 😦
also if you're slowed your dps need to do a better job kicking and you healer needs to be on that dispel
modern brook
Cardboard assassin can be really nice for setting up PB Bombs too, but that's ge...
v true
sick sentinel
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=310493/50ul-tr4p
It's not consumable, The way it works:
You can't place it, it will drop at your feet
So put the trap and hope something runs over it or pull them towards you
When trapped the mob will become invulnerable for 1 min and immobilized
this is extremely effective,
rancid ember
lol never tried that thing
sick sentinel
caution, don't use it on mobs that trigger cutscenes or "move forwards" events in the dungeon
as you can't remove it easily from targets
strong forum
Use "ShareX"
sick sentinel
lazy screenshot lol
strong forum
A great tool to quickly screenshot only specific parts
Windows also has an inbuilt screenshot tool
sick sentinel
prt scrn, paint paste, save as
strong forum
But I forgot the combination
sick sentinel
its like windows key +1 or some shit
opaque quest
You talking about snipping tool?
misty lintel
hi, first time tanking full NC myth today (one of our core tanks cant make it). should i prio haste over versa? sitting at 15% haste/30% vers right now
strong forum
Snipping tool ye
strong forum
hi, first time tanking full NC myth today (one of our core tanks cant make it). ...
Generally stats don't matter but yes, haste > vers
opaque quest
Alt M
misty lintel
Generally stats don't matter but yes, haste > vers
mainly asking for sockets/enchants. i guess full haste then. ty
strong forum
Ye
sick sentinel
i'll try
strong forum
I just use shareX
strong forum
And have my key bound to "delete"
I can then just snap a specific part of my screen
And it's insta in my copy
And I just paste the link
Takes 1sec
opaque quest
I could just use snip, its on my - key but thats like 1 more button which is work i dont support lol
strong forum
It's 1 button total!
Instead of finding the screenshot and moving it to discord
You just paste the link
Ez
opaque quest
Aye thats true
opaque quest
Gj on the Division Corner. Bad Job on being a weeb :/
sweet summit
weeb 
sick sentinel
Place your cursor on the screen from which you want a screenshot. Make sure there is a program window on that screen, otherwise you will get a shot of both screens anyway. Hit CTRL + ALT + PrtScn on your keyboard. Hit CTRL + V to paste the screenshot
chilly brook
Also Celestial Brew is effectively only a 30 second CD
strong forum
Gj on the Division Corner. Bad Job on being a weeb :/
clean AF tho
chilly brook
Honestly the spec would probably benefit the most from just an HP boost @jagged pier
opaque quest
Mine's the same. I got 0 thingys on desktop or i get cancer
sick sentinel
i installed new motherboard and i was already on my OEM key change
strong forum
yuuup, if theres 1 icon, i get super aids
sick sentinel
so, no activate windows till spend $ on key
opaque quest
Windows Key is 3€ on Ebay
chilly brook
yuuup, if theres 1 icon, i get super aids
Weird
strong forum
its just ugly
sick sentinel
i want where u get the sticker and packaging, usb all that
opaque quest
No arguing
strong forum
if you want a shortcut, use the search bar or add it to your start
strong forum
navigate WHAT
opaque quest
If you wanna navigate you got everything on a shortcut
strong forum
what do you need to navigate
opaque quest
Or use the windows button
chilly brook
So add an extra button press?
opaque quest
chilly brook
Lol
opaque quest
What more do i need
chilly brook
I dont see any lightrooom
sick sentinel
NEED THAT SHIT CLEAN
sup ya'll
chilly brook
Or premiere
opaque quest
omfg
sick sentinel
no, it's asmons lol
opaque quest
D E G E N E R A T E
strong forum
CORTANA
sick sentinel
fun game, count the wow icons on that screen
strong forum
OUT
chilly brook
Lmao
opaque quest
Cortana omfg
chilly brook
This is my work computer bruh
opaque quest
chilly brook
Literally not even mine
cinder pasture
chilly brook
I spend 99% of my time in premiere pro so it's not like I'm staring at the desktop
strong forum
its gonna land there anyway
chilly brook
chilly brook
Yall got some real ocd
strong forum
clean = fun
sick sentinel
i never see nomer get so trigger before
strong forum
you heard me talk about vers before
(im also exaggerating for comedic effect)
cuz its such an irrelevant debate
strong forum
modern brook
Imagine not having ninomae streams on the third monitor smh
sick sentinel
nah, i watch the bald one for mald outs and hot takes
sweet summit
Imagine not having ninomae streams on the third monitor smh
she's not even live
opaque quest
Wth you mean with assrock
I also got no MSI Parts
MSI Overlay is from MSI Afterburner which is used for pretty much every GPU OC
sick sentinel
asrock is company i bought last like 3 motherboards from
opaque quest
Ive never used anything else but asrock boards and always got at least 1ghz on allcore
On my I5 1.5
NEver had issues with Asrock :> ITs bad rep from the time when it was a asus daugther comp
sick sentinel
i've only ever had to replace 1 out 4 or 5 asrock board that i bought off amazon
wouldn't boot som reason
opaque quest
Ryzen?
high folio
i never had great luck with ASrock hardware. Same with XFX gpus
opaque quest
Well XFX is AMD and their drivers have been rough the last years
sick sentinel
yes, i went with a socket 939, and then i was gifted an 13 2120 machine, and in 2018 i got back into it
high folio
my mobo is currently an msi and im happy w it
chilly brook
Well XFX is AMD and their drivers have been rough the last years
I've not had many issues with drivers
rancid ember
chilly brook
Not anymore than I've ever had with nvidia
high folio
Well XFX is AMD and their drivers have been rough the last years
ive had good amd cards, just not good xfx cards. i have a 6900xt from sapphire atm and its great
opaque quest
I've not had many issues with drivers
My 5700xt/6900xt to ok weeks and months to work flawlessly
north iris
guys guys how good is queensguard vigil trinket
high folio
Not anymore than I've ever had with nvidia
this tbh
sick sentinel
rule with tech shit is when it comes to your door if there is any creases in packaging or bends or anything treat with caution and b ready to return lol
north iris
let me know
opaque quest
Im always making a box check when i build a PC
Which means, get it together on a karton and try it
opaque quest
Fastest GPU on the market is a 6900xt tho :/
sick sentinel
if you get a motherboard and the box has a hole in it run for the hills
chilly brook
Fastest GPU on the market is a 6900xt tho :/
I'm not in that price range lmao
north iris
what are your thoughts on queensguard vigil trinket
opaque quest
My 6900xt drives me 144 hertz 1440p like a dream :>
opaque quest
Same. Ordered day one and got mine like 2 month into the craze
chilly brook
I coulda a few months ago
high folio
i was originally gunning for 3080/6800xt range
chilly brook
But uhhhh
opaque quest
There is a discord group that lets you know when one is in stock
chilly brook
Unfortunately I have another habit that's extremely expensive
chilly brook
Neither
chilly brook
Nah
high folio
lmao
sick sentinel
meth
opaque quest
GPU collecting :>
chilly brook
Think more American
opaque quest
or meth ye
sweet summit
🔫
chilly brook
Yee
north iris
i have anima field emitter and blood-spattered scale
opaque quest
Hes a schoolshooter isnt he
high folio
for somereason my brain defaulted to BBQ
sick sentinel
hoes, hoes are expensive too
high folio
like you by smokers
chilly brook
opaque quest
Im a german. I couldnt even buy a gun illegaly
chilly brook
I literally just bought a $300 flashlight
opaque quest
Civilized part of the world you know
chilly brook
high folio
laughs in second amendment
north iris
HOW GOOD IS QUEENSGUARD VIGIL FOR HEALING ?
opaque quest
There are 300€ fleshlights too
chilly brook
Im a german. I couldnt even buy a gun illegaly
You can
opaque quest
IF YOU WANT HEALING USE THE BLOB ONE
north iris
is it worth equipping?
opaque quest
no
chilly brook
Pretty sure Germany has a licensing process
sweet summit
conpared to anima and scale no
opaque quest
It does. But you need fuckton of paperwork
My dad served for 45 years and he couldnt even buy one without the waiting time
north iris
what's optimal usage for blood splatter? on pull or wait until i have mobs stacked?
chilly brook
Is queensguard a world quest?
opaque quest
Is queensguard a world quest?
++
chilly brook
what's optimal usage for blood splatter? on pull or wait until i have mobs stack...
Optimal is using when you need it
sick sentinel
i wouldn't mind getting 216+ of the slime tank healing trinket from PF
opaque quest
So 194 tops
high folio
tbh i wish america had something better in place. for some reason poloticians over here are too black and white on the topic of fire arms
chilly brook
But you can slap it whenever without any real issue
sweet summit
203 max
high folio
they either want all of them gone or they want every american to own ballistic missiles its madness
north iris
so you use blood splatter for safety net for shield ?
sweet summit
psure u can get it in calling cache
north iris
as a oh shit button
sweet summit
as an extra defensive
north iris
cool
chilly brook
so you use blood splatter for safety net for shield ?
The ideal case is you use it as an extra defensive everytime its up
Whether that's realistic depends
But you can comfortably just fire it off everytime it's off CD
opaque quest
Thats what im doing on my DK
north iris
neat, got myself bis trinkets now just need to upgrade them with valor
opaque quest
Extra dmg cd lmao
high folio
i usually always hold defensives as long as i can and only use them when i absolutely need it
worthy karma
Scale is solid for aggro snagging too
high folio
spend less time kiting
sick sentinel
Scale is solid for aggro snagging too
yes, more so if it crits
opaque quest
I tend to use it on pull when i dont have a deff CD up
high folio
i could see it being nice for if youre a little rage starvved or waiting for your next demo shout
north iris
ok guys lovely thanks for this, carry on with the flashlights GPUs etc etc
opaque quest
"flEshlights"
north iris
xd
opaque quest
i'd just use it when sb is down
high folio
exx dee
chilly brook
"flEshlights"
It was definitely a flashlight sir
opaque quest
SHOW ME THE ENDS
north iris
i'd just use it when sb is down
ye I have fury leggo (avatar triggers bladestorm) and tend to run out of sb's
can't wait for torgasino to drop my intercept spammer
chilly brook
high folio
run that wall in the mean time
opaque quest
chilly brook
Oh no
opaque quest
oh yes
opaque quest
Same
north iris
i have 1k leggo coins
chilly brook
So funny story about that
high folio
oh if you dont have any to spare then nah
if youre waiting for a certain week i think you can cheese it with twisting corridors somehow
north iris
I could even get rank 2 next week if i'm patient
high folio
i always do 190 then jump to the 235, most economic
north iris
yeah I may head down the twisters
high folio
it is worth crafting the wall tho incase theeres fights you cant get a tone of reprisal value out of
north iris
loving prot war starting to disrespect those +5s now
high folio
you can face tank most dungeons on a warrior up to like 18 i think
chilly brook
#
We have a government agency who's supposed to enforce laws regarding firearms as well as some other stuff however they get involved in coming out with definitions or stuff that essentially bypass the legislative process and they start making rules/laws as such. Well at some point someone paid a lawyer to write a letter of inquiry to the ATF to ask about the legality of a fleshlight brace being put on the firearm and they were legally required to respond.
high folio
thats ab the threshold where shit starts to really start hurting
sick sentinel
north iris
i'm 204 atm so don't feel confident face rolling higher keys but the 5s are sweet for acquiring bis gear fast
high folio
i'm 204 atm so don't feel confident face rolling higher keys but the 5s are swee...
10's would be pretty easy at 204
i was sub 220 when i got ksm
sick sentinel
i could get KSM now if i wanted to
high folio
which still isnt that impressive
yeah
i can do base mythics at like 130
on a pally
north iris
yeah I've done 10s also but it becomes more reliant on dps at least I think so considering i'm new to tanking
high folio
depends
tanks are critical bc pacing of a dungeon and routing is 100% on you
and also
north iris
so just for fast loot spammed a few low keys where dmg is irrelevant and 2 deaths can still give you 2 looter chesting
sick sentinel
yeah I've done 10s also but it becomes more reliant on dps at least I think so c...
thing is, as tank there is ALWAYS a better way to position things, so that the dps can do their full jobs without being interupted attacked or killed
high folio
if a group ever tries to make you run a route in a dung that you dont want to do
tell them to get bent and leave
like i think double invis skipping in SD is dumb
high folio
the pack that gets skipped on most double invis routes we already have pride buff as it is
exactly
chilly brook
Double invis skipping in SD is actually not bad
sick sentinel
i had one guy and he rage quit on the second pull because we weren't on pace for him
high folio
i think its a waste of an invis pot imo
sick sentinel
we were doing fine, but we just weren't killing fast enough so he dc'd and didn't come back
high folio
thats ass
high folio
Double invis skipping in SD is actually not bad
im not saying youre shit at the game for doing it but i dont see the point. those packs arent that difficult. unless that route is better suited to a 22 key or something
opaque quest
We have a government agency who's supposed to enforce laws regarding firearms as...
Ahahaha
Good one
chilly brook
im not saying youre shit at the game for doing it but i dont see the point. thos...
The point of the double invis is for better pride timing on the 2nd boss afaik
high folio
thats fair
opaque quest
The point of the double invis is for better pride timing on the 2nd boss afaik
Third
chilly brook
And then you're skipping the bridge pack after 3rd because you dont need it
high folio
when i do SD i pull shit on the ring after 2nd boss to 75% then go down to 3rd
then skip the 2nd bridge pack heading to gauntlet
high folio
Third
its not 3rd all you need to get pride lined up on that boss is to be at 75% before going down
opaque quest
Lets you have pride on all bosses
chilly brook
Anyways the double skip is just mainly for better boss timings
chilly brook
Since bosses are the only dangerous thing in SD
high folio
right
i think the extra 10 sec on pride isnt that make or break for torvald
it gets very apparent very fast whether or not your group can kill that boss
chilly brook
I was just mainly giving you a hard time
jagged pier
chilly brook
But I do stand by the monk honestly probably just needs an hp bump
jagged pier
few things they could do to it
but have to be careful because could turn uber busted
chilly brook
Definitely
But the devaluing of stagger shrank their ehp
Hence imo the easiest and most practical change is just bump their health a little
jagged pier
well yer but buffing hp is boring
jagged pier
its a great dps cd
jagged pier
but its our second best conduit after stalwart 🤔
jagged pier
chilly brook
P2 is wild
jagged pier
yer we would have killed it monday but servers were fucked for us
had night hunters going off during blood price
had to call the raid
but 90% blocked hits on a 2% wipe on sunday ill take it
modern brook
she's not even live <:weird:718676218500874320>
imagine not having ninomae vods on the third monitor smh
sweet summit
fair
sick sentinel
seeking a video of a PF 15 (with these affixes maybe) from a prot warrior perspective
sick sentinel
i gotta try a PF14, my key, bleh
strong forum
gotta blow up those adds quick, otherwise its gonna be a struggle
sick sentinel
i mean its literally spread out to webs and do 1 basic aoe attack and then aggro reduction
for other 4
strong forum
the issue is necrotic stacks
not getting the adds out
youll be tanking a boss + 4 adds, with hardly any time to drop necrotic
cuz the boss continues to attack you
sick sentinel
even with kleia binds its a problem?
strong forum
you only have phial once on that boss
but you need a way to reset necrotic like 3 times on that boss
not only once
sick sentinel
ok, i got a few of those alch disease potions too
sick sentinel
nope, bring back luffa
or i re-roll did
possibly a strategy there is take first necrotics and then leap out, 2nd, you have shaman earth ele or hunter pets treants
rancid ember
If you have Pala he can BOP you too if you have a cancel macro setup
mellow bridge
the adds on third boss dont apply necrotic anymore iirc?
So that makes it a bit easier at least
jagged pier
they dont anymore
delicate thorn
tanked a timewalking dungeon, did twice the DPS of a frost DK. He didn't use Obliterate a single time 🧐
strong forum
no clue about frost DK
but they have 2 builds
dunno if breath dk should use obliterate
blazing condor
yeah the affix nerfes kinda pogging
cerulean tusk
Going to tank mythic Sire D, so looking for any good source of could be helpful information for a prot warrior. Didn't see any in the pins, we got any lying about?
high folio
he will hit your face very hard
cerulean tusk
checks out
high folio
lmao
fr tho i got nothing im not much of a mythic raider. some of the chads in here will be able to help
strong forum
use SW / LS / External when crossing mirrors while tanking sire, when he teleports to you he has a habit of slapping you in the back, use SR often
you can SR the knockback or an application of Shattering Pain
jagged pier
u can use it for blood price and then every shattered in between
cerulean tusk
Some decent advice, still got to look into anything but the knockback SR - if there are any other (non-p1) SRs that are extremely useful, I would love to hear about them 
topaz dragon
The ravage massacre knockback overlap in P3. That knockback is pretty key. I use DA as a DK there
sweet summit
there isnt anything direct to reflect in p2 really, mostly just used for DR
and for p3 its all blood prices and the massacre ravager knock overlap as stated above
topaz dragon
The CD won't be low enough for all of them yea? So I guess its syncing them up.
sweet summit
wdym?
topaz dragon
For every Blood price? Would SR be up?
sweet summit
yes
topaz dragon
Oh, pog
topaz dragon
Perfect :) Yea, I havent done the fight as Warr. Only DK.
Idk if I could do it as war as I cheese too many of the KB mechanics with DA
sweet summit
ya DA is kinda hack
topaz dragon
Also, use AMS to block the DoT application in P3. Feelsgood
sweet summit
chilly brook
Also, use AMS to block the DoT application in P3. Feelsgood
Meanwhile blizz nerfs the one boss we can reflect a stack on
topaz dragon
I'm usually confused my the inconsistency of what can be reflected. Whereas AMS just block.
@chilly brook Which boss?
chilly brook
Inerva
topaz dragon
Trying to convince my RL to let me start tanking on Warr as prac for 9.1 :)
elfin nova
mellow bridge
can confirm, works great
distant crystal
yeah i mean it's not like you're trying to play prot pally or something
healers prob won't notice a diff
ohh nvm you're a bdk
somber sky
are these all the bloodprices in p3?
distant crystal
healer will notice the missing AMZ
cerulean tusk
some alright advice in here
chilly brook
That's literally what I did on nzoth
I logged off my DH and logged into my monk mid raid night
analog swift
did that for my warrior this tier
just said be right back
logged over
typed 1 in chat
got summon to mythic xymox, right as the pull timer is hitting 5 a guildie says "why are you wearing a dragonscale"
orchid anvil
This okie or do i need to change something?
kindred pine
Will the Necrolord leggo prove invaluable enough to swap to Maldraxxus prior to 9.1?
mellow bridge
No unless maybe if you play at a very high and coordinated level
fleet river
This okie or do i need to change something?
If it's all your highest ilevel stuff then yes it is optimal for you. If you have same-ilevel options to swap around, you should favor haste and then vers. But never give up ilevel for either of those
sick sentinel
blue pull and skip (yellow w 1 in it), what do, cuz the 2 pack there is always patting
cinder nova
Any of you guys have suggestions for maximizing Reprisal on M CoB?
Our strat is largely stationary for tanks, so I'm kind of thinking Wall will be better for prog and seismic for parsing, but I could just be stupid.
chilly brook
This okie or do i need to change something?
That's not very helpful at all, are those your highest ilvl pieces equipped?
cinder nova
Yeah, check the #268491842637660160 channel, read the guide, 
and you'll 95% get your answer.
Also I figure out the Reprisal gimmick on Council.
safe thistle
Any of you guys have suggestions for maximizing Reprisal on M CoB?
you can intervene another raider for uptime and when the one you tank is stavros you can charge when he leap or when its nik you can run out when he call an attendant and charge back to him
cinder nova
I just started charging Stav since he's stationary
safe thistle
you can easily have very high reprisal uptime on that fight
spell reflect during the jump
when your at nik (end p2 start p3) left you can grab aggro on waiter to help raid a bit if they hit you its easier on healer
cinder nova
I typically just heroic/throw taunt waiters anyway
Between other abilities
Mostly to collect aggro
safe thistle
ya we only have 2 dk cant grab them as much as we would like too thats why
cinder nova
Abom limb just grabs them all though?
safe thistle
yah
cinder nova
Or are you saying the frequency of waiters is more than you'll have limbs for
safe thistle
and a dk tank so he can gorefiend them
we only have a gorefiend grab and a frost dk
cinder nova
Less of a "minmaxing" thing Frost does okay damage, but the gulf between a good FDK and a good UDK is like surv and MM/BM
Although surv is functionally dogwater
safe thistle
oh well we let ppl play what they like and only play frost dk at least its an amz
cinder nova
oh well we let ppl play what they like and only play frost dk at least its an am...
Any suggestions for timing the block on lunge?
safe thistle
i dont know if it work turning yourself to block it normally i just IP it.
i should check log for that
safe thistle
i try to step walk and that make me turn faster but i dunno if it actually block it
sick sentinel
tfw no prot warrior gf to protecc me from danger
Also headpats and forehead kisses would be nice
cinder nova
Simps aren't welcome here
Also, the amount of shit happening in M Council is fucking awful.
low kindle
If I were to swap covenant, can I take the part 1 quest on Tues, finish it and take part 2 on Friday? or do I have to wait for next reset?
hasty wren
Part 1 - reset - part 2
low kindle
Thanks, that's what I've been doing but I was told you could do it in 1 week
so was wondering how
grim nymph
part 1 reset part 2 and rejoin on Tuesday
graceful granite
Considering a resub, did Blizzard ever fix Venthyr for prot?
sweet summit
Thats implying it was not working as intended in the first place
So no, nothing has changed in that department
north iris
What do you mean what’s the technique for covenant change?
chilly brook
Considering a resub, did Blizzard ever fix Venthyr for prot?
What do you mean by "fixed"
rotund thicket
any tipps for this dumb affix combination if playing in pugs? i saw that someone said playing with kleia should help alot but what to do while the phial is on cd?
north iris
Leap it it do
Hard packs get someone to cc inspired so group can slow packs to help you reset
If you can’t cc make sure inspired does fast
Dies
rotund thicket
i usually play dk and have a 90% slow to kite them, what tools does prot have to kite? the 30% slow feels like nonexstisting
or do you really just jump away every 45 sec?
edgy belfry
you begin the process on monday, complete the quest (ideally running dungs), then talk to npc, he then asks you to wait until they decide if you are worthy to be accepted back, then he gives you another quest on wednesday, saying you seem to be worthy and after completing this quest - congratz, you just rejoined the covenant! takes 2/3 days if you just time it right @north iris
jagged pier
or do you really just jump away every 45 sec?
U dont kite, u shouldnt need to as a prot warrior
Even this week
rotund thicket
well, how you suvive then? maybe its my low gear but i die really fast if i dont get heal
jagged pier
Then you arent playing correctly
We mitigate a tone of damage
Like even with necrotic stacks u can go to 40-50 comfortably
If played correctly
rotund thicket
high shieldblock uptime, ignore pain if i dont have shieldblock up i use demo shout, do i miss something?
jagged pier
I mean you shouldnt really have many gaps in sb if you have reprisal but you said u low gear so u might not have it
But you should be using demo shout on cd and you shouldnt be holding LS or SW we use them rotationally
rotund thicket
im at 210 atm but doing 16-17 keys, thats why i said i have low gear for those keylevels
jagged pier
I mean thats fine for that level
Like nerf did 25s at 209 or some shit
Hard to say what your doing wrong tbh
Without logs or a vod
Or somthing
edgy belfry
whats the point of using demo shout if you can block everything in next 15s btw? (i am new to prot)
rotund thicket
i gonna do a +10 key and log it, maybe you can help me find my mistakes 🙂
jagged pier
Id rather you did a 16-17
Because your at your limit then so it kind of shows the big issues that arise at that point
Youll play differently in a 10 compared to a 16-17
strange rivet
for mythic+ is reprisal or thunderlord good to use?
strange rivet
alright thanks
blazing condor
”Hey man new week. Wanna do one weekly for the vault?”
”Nah ”
”Yeah me neither tbh”
Retail experience
jagged pier
I just do them on tuesday when the gm is doing them
I still need weekly
He alsways just makes groups
For his like 6 alts
Hop in 25 mins
Back out
Ez
Raid tonight pray for the servers to be okay
🙏
north iris
you begin the process on monday, complete the quest (ideally running dungs), the...
Nice on thanks
north iris
”Hey man new week. Wanna do one weekly for the vault?”
”Nah ”
”Yeah me neither t...
Sucks for you I get none of that always happy to play
gritty wharf
Hello, i'm not a warrior player at all. But my friend who's playing tank in our mythic+ team is playing war. So that's why i've a question. After how many second your rage start dropping ? For instance when u need to kyte some mobs ?
Is is only when you're out of combat
jagged pier
Only out of combat
gritty wharf
Oh, so his excuse about "i can't kyte that well because when i'll go back at melee i'll not have enought rage for my CD" is useless right ? For instance with necrotic
jagged pier
That bull shit
He could spamm his rage while hes kiting
Maybe thats why he thinks hes got no rag me
🤔
Like pressing IP or somthing
Also why wouldnt he charge back that gives rage anyways
gritty wharf
Okok. What is BS and IP ?
gaunt dawn
BS = Bullshit
jagged pier
Bullshit
jagged pier
^^
gritty wharf
Oh, ok haha. Thanks for your answer guys. Have a nice day !
jagged pier
That being said about kiting in necro warrior can stay in for a long time before needing to kite (if played correctly)
strong forum
Raid tonight pray for the servers to be okay
No.
jagged pier
jagged pier
:O
strong forum
100+ fps on cyberpunk max settings unless in the City, there it's 60
jagged pier
Damn i need to upgrade but not paying them prices
strong forum
It's quite ironic, the gpu that was said to have the most bang for your buck, started the gpu-apocalypse
jagged pier
True 😆
strong forum
(totally unrelated to an insane shortage of materials)
gritty wharf
Hola, i'm back. Does a war prot can bank ressource ? Or maybe he can't because if he start to bank his rage, he will take to many damages ?
jagged pier
You should always have 30 rage for when shield block comes off cd
And u have to be careful with banking bank too much youll over capp
Which is very bad
Do u guys have logs? Mught be better for us to be able to take a look at what hes actually doing
jagged pier
Okay so for starters fueld by violence is an aweful conduit, he should run unvering instead 100% but thats just small thing wont make much difference
orchid anvil
That's not very helpful at all, are those your highest ilvl pieces equipped?
yes it is
jagged pier
Then thats what you should have equiped
jagged pier
Have fun :c
So even taking into account of time between mobs etc etc his casts are really low, id expect around 10-12 SS casts a min and about 9-10 thunderclaps so hes missing out on a lot of rage but kiting might be a bit of a reason why they are low.
Like hes not charging or intervening much but he using reprisal so hes loosing a lot of time rage and shield block uptime by not using it alot
For instance i check my logs and in a mists that took me around the same time i had like 2-3k more rage gen than he did but i have spear as well so thats just more rage in general
But he can definatly use get more and utalize the leggo more
His LS and SW casts are low like 3 and 4 casts respectively ocer 23 min
Like they are part of our rotation really
And when he switched conduits LS becomes a much kore useful thing as it give you loads of rage to its a dps or a defensive cd
Like SW with the talents hes running cd should be around 1:30mins so he can use it far more often
U dont just save the cds u use them as often as u can to still have them when u need them gor big pulls or tank busters etc
Thats about all i got but i got to get back to work
gritty wharf
Alright, thanks a lot
jagged pier
Like he can definatly cast more and that will lead to more rage so more dps or more survivability
topaz dragon
Just upgraded my Intervene leggo to 233 instead of getting a Wall. Laugh at me. Im trying to convince my RL to let me tank the reclears on my warr haha
merry quail
Hey guys, I'm trying prot war in some m+ when we need a tank! I was wondering how often I'm supposed to use IP? Is that the go to rage spender most of time? It's probably not that simple, thanks in advance
jagged pier
You have a prio of ehat tonspend your rage on
Do u have sheild block up? If not that is top prio
If its up
The next question is do i need more mitigation
If the answer is yes you use one of our cds or ignore pain
If the answer if no you uses revenge
Or execute
merry quail
Ok that's clear, thanks a lot
strong forum
Just upgraded my Intervene leggo to 233 instead of getting a Wall. Laugh at me. ...
Ever since 9.0.5 I haven't even looked at the wall
Cuz reprisal is just better
jagged pier
^
Well the boomkin in my guild keeps tellig me the wall is better but doesnt play warrior and hes only got that from warcraftlogs i think
sweet summit
cinder nova
Wall is better if you're too squarebrain to Reprisal properly tbh
Or if you're too lazy
Or if for some reason you really need like 6 walls in a fight
strong forum
Well the boomkin in my guild keeps tellig me the wall is better but doesnt play ...
Maybe he only looks at Sims
Boomkins are notorious simmers
Actually insane
sweet summit
@ionic fern reprisal sim when
ionic fern
Never,
jagged pier
No hes a good player but i ask why he says that and the only answer i can get is more people are playing it on sire
strong forum
Our boomkin would literally sim like 5 times a day, every single day
sweet summit
o
ionic fern
I'm too busy trying to fix my bike and enjoying summer.
strong forum
Several scenarios
strong forum
I'm too busy trying to fix my bike and enjoying summer.
Good
cinder nova
No hes a good player but i ask why he says that and the only answer i can get is...
I can see using Wall on M Sire
strong forum
I'm TAAAAAANNING
ionic fern
cinder nova
Having wall on that fight pretty much every minute and a half is far from awful.
And there's no shortage of bullshit magic damage
sweet summit
oh my
jagged pier
I can see using Wall on M Sire
For what purpose what does it give you over reprisal? Like if your running the wall u take bolster and therefore the cd is the same
sweet summit
cinder nova
Why wouldn't you run wall + AM
jagged pier
Because u need the block
strong forum
Cuz you kinda want block uptime
cinder nova
Or is the block uptime that ballbustingly critical
cinder nova
Remornia bleed is fucking obnoxious
jagged pier
And not to mention in p3 u cna charge and intervene all the time
And get stupid uptime
cinder nova
Yeah, if you need the block enough to slap Bolster in
Then Reprisal may as be the play
Wall/Bolster is the turtle move
cinder nova
What was the avg?
jagged pier
Its like 85%
cinder nova
Damage
jagged pier
I dunno
cinder nova
Like, per hit
jagged pier
Enough to want block up
cinder nova
miss me with that shit
I remember M Ghuun wanting to kill myself
Not sure I want to push CE ever again
strong forum
Ghuun was ultra comfy
cinder nova
I hated it, tbh
strong forum
Idk why people think he hit hard
Literally just taunt on 3
GG
Literal wet noodle slapper
No reason to let stacks get high
cinder nova
Because healers are spazzing and contesting with the rest of the encounter mechanics so my health kept dicking around near 30%
strong forum
Shit heals
cinder nova
And it made me get a fucking stress headache
strong forum
Ghuun was literally 0 threat
blazing condor
Ghuun was fun asf i felt like a badass solorunning the orb
never did it on mythic tho so idk
jagged pier
I liked uldir i just didnt like IP beingnon the gcd
Oh expect Zul, jakey u do to much damage to the adds, your tanking the cleave sdd to the side of the platform on your own
blazing condor
Uldir had ok bosses but looked boring asf
Big circle with blood bosses everywhere
strong forum
I know, thanks!
dry spear
does the pinned sheet change with 9.1 or everything stays the same?
sweet summit
stays the same, only change are the new conduit(s) but as of now they seem kinda lackluster so we just have to wait and see
rotund thicket
Without logs or a vod
https://de.warcraftlogs.com/reports/L9J7nx4gtP13vqjd/#fight=last i finally found a group for nw +16 - i know i messed up a few things but i would like to know whats wrong in average :c
strong forum
They even made the stat proc conduit worse
sweet summit
yeah its kinda omegabad now
jagged pier
https://de.warcraftlogs.com/reports/L9J7nx4gtP13vqjd/#fight=last i finally found...
Ill have to have a look later when ive finished work but ill get round to it
rotund thicket
thanks in advance
strong forum
They did?
From the flat 150 stat proc, to a low % stat proc
It's like 50-60 now at max ilvl, instead of 160+
jagged pier
strong forum
It was already not good, now it's just trash
jagged pier
Is everyone elses trash
jagged pier
F
sweet summit
👍
sick sentinel
i just want to make nomer upset again, by pointing out the fact that the picture i showed yersterday of asmon pc has minimum 12 wow icons on it
blazing condor
1 for pvp, 1 for pve, 1 for mount farming
strong forum
HOW ELSE AM I GONNA OPEN WOW
blazing condor
etc.
sick sentinel
"let me just destroy, instead of trade away these potions for my new intellect ring i just took from the raid for my flask set"
sick sentinel
make like 2 god damn lvl 10s or whatever the shit can be a guild master
and send allll ur shit to them, like 3 toons
blazing condor
I still have the urn of vol’jin in my bag
The quest bugged for me and it didnt disappear
Now we traveling the world together n shit
strong forum
Some quest shit sure that's annoying
But like streamers like drjay
That habe 48r9r7040rur94 m+ pieces in bags
Literally filled to the brim
Of useless gear you will never equip
strong forum
And then when he wants something, he deletes 1 useless item he couldve vendor ed 15 weeks ago
sick sentinel
"YoU tHiNk YoU dO BuT yOu DoN't"
bitch please, i was already at the first portal opening
whywould i need to go back a second time
blazing condor
modern brook
And then when he wants something, he deletes 1 useless item he couldve vendor ed...
Ur literally describing me
sweet summit
you are disgusting
modern brook
Smh what if something changes and it becomes an upgrade
sweet summit
then just use item restoration??
modern brook
I actually abused item restoration with azerite armor
Like to the point of exploitation
strong forum
Same
jagged pier
Id take the 220 u can always put a socket on it
gleaming pawn
true, i was thinking the higher ilvl anyways for str/stam
sick sentinel
@modern brooki always try to keep minimum 20 slots open for bags
some time as low as like 2 or 3, but never 0 unless its nessecary
i use that restore every 2 weeks p much as well yeah
modern brook
<@!204081428869283843>i always try to keep minimum 20 slots open for bags
Smh what happens when a hot fix makes mastery bis?
Yall are going to be so sad
sick sentinel
triple block?
300 and + % block, if you block more than the (melee) attack would have done, X% is dealt back to them
mastery stacking seems silly
mellow bridge
how do you guys filter for non-blocked hits in warcraftlogs?
tame jasper
Damage taken (for you) -> Melee hits -> Mousover col "Hits"
mellow bridge
ty
mental owl
Question, does Sinful Surge also extend the shield block portion if you talent into it?
mental owl
Bleh, lame
sweet summit
high folio
i feel like if it extended those two itd be kinda busted
strong forum
Busted is an understatement
high folio
absorb shield plus perma health boost and sb during execute phase
where you typically lust for a lot of fights
jesus
strong forum
You have nearly 100% uptime on LS with that on short fights
high folio
yeah seriously
strong forum
And 100% uptime in m+
high folio
lmaoooo
stark sage
Llarod
stark sage
it was insane for fury on the ptr for a little bit, that kind of effect is just prone to imbalance
high folio
it used to be better then it is now?
strong forum
It's been nerfed for prot from 4sec to 3sec
On fury its been nerfed from 2.5 to 1.5 I think?
high folio
i mean still its last stand. i dont think that nerf really did anything to its placement did it
in leggo rankings
stark sage
fury was 3 now its 2
mellow bridge
i mean still its last stand. i dont think that nerf really did anything to its p...
yeah it just changed it from shit to still shit kek
mental owl
Does condemn give a shield or just prevents damage from the target?
high folio
think of it like an absorb that only works against your primary target
you ignore the damage
sick sentinel
that was strange
we were doing my pf14, got to 2nd boss, died on the pride, didn't get healed on boss for 15 seconds, wipe, wipe again, quit
sick sentinel
just dissapointing is all lol
mental owl
I see, I'm leveling a second warrior ( first one is kyrian) and im trying to decide which covenant. I raid fury but tank m+ and I wanna give venthyr a try but I'm so afraid of feeling useless in m+ with condemn
high folio
play what you want like serirously
i got my ksm as a venthyr prot warrior
the damage you dont do to trash you make up for with really high ST burst on the bosses
i swapped to NF like a week or two ago
north iris
Îm Kyrian
high folio
plka is the #1 ranked prot warrior in like NA i think and he was venthyr for a long time
@mental owl
strong forum
Venthyr works, but if you wanna do fury and prot, then NF is your best friend
Currently NF is better for fury anyways
jade wyvern
he raided as dps iirc which is why he was venth for so long (early on everyone was venth for dps)
mental owl
Yeah I heard nf is rly strong for fury, but I heard it also falls a bit behind in ST, since I mostly raid as fury I won't benefit as much from Nf as someone who also plays m+. Someone mentioned the new venthyr leggy is making venthyr fury pull ahead in raids
modern brook
you're still a class een if you're not in the best cov
for prot in particular
the difference is negligible
the deciding factor often being whatever your group needs for dungeon buffs
dreamy rain
is thunderlord still the worst legendary for prot? in aoe fights?
blazing condor
Thunderlord is underwhelming considering your other options
But its not bad per se
A lot of worse ones
modern brook
Thunderlord is very comfortably our 3rd best, non-niche legendary
it just does less than Reprisal in AoE
and the wall is more relevent on most raid fights than it
dreamy rain
damn, im a 8.3 warrior fanboy... so i really dont like the whole reprisal/revenger playstyle :/
modern brook
the good news is you dont need thunderlord to gimp your damage output by playing UF
modern brook
i mean
UF was fast
but i hard agree
REvenge being a button u want to press is also just straight upsides tbh
dreamy rain
i love uf, idk it gives me good vibes
high folio
yeah fr
dreamy rain
maybe its more viable when we get more stats
modern brook
maybe its more viable when we get more stats
it wont be viable until they make Thunderclap do more than an auto attack
high folio
^ TC does no damage even after a like 20% buff
modern brook
Its on a row where your choices are literally "huge steroid to our best stat" "great damage and rage gen" and "you have to burn your 20% damage buff window using your weakest ability to even come close to the same amount of rage gen"
high folio
^^^
prot got like a 10% aura buff and then an additional buff to thunderclap
i dont remember the exact amounts, but its still really week
modern brook
10 and 10
high folio
i personally like it, revenge hits really hard
modern brook
You can play ITF in most content
But ravager is very good, espically in dungeon content
and specific raid bosses
high folio
ravager is top tier in keys imo. bottomless rage gen on aoe pulls
high folio
ive done that before
modern brook
its a very good talent
high folio
extremely
modern brook
And frankly its been like 5 years since you could use it without memeing
so get your fix now
modern brook
necro tyr right?
high folio
necro, tyr, inspired
modern brook
dead week
high folio
i thought blizz implemented something that prevented super op combonations lmao
modern brook
IDT necro/Tyr is op until you take into consideration the boss fights :/