exactly
#protection
waxen cradle
short kiln
oh yikes.
strong forum
so obv, snowflakes feel better about themselves if they arent allowed to be judged ingame
dry kite
is simy consumptive organ absolute trash or what
strong forum
is simy consumptive organ absolute trash or what
yes
dry kite
226 in one vault
short kiln
careful... then the ones you didn't say it to are gonna get butt hurt
distant crystal
damn my loophole is busted
strong forum
if i didnt know about the no flame thingy
id prolly get banned real quick in a dungeon when i mention someone doing smth
sweet summit
"everyone except for waat is doing great!"
strong forum
even whilst leveling
distant crystal
strong forum
"this time you didnt die right away!"
short kiln
LMAO
distant crystal
i'm p sure we were like, telling people what to do differently in the scenarios and stuff
idk, i guess it only becomes a problem if someone gets bootyhurt and reports you either way
strong forum
no clue
but you can obv talk like normal human beings outside of the game
like, id be scared to explain smth
actually i think criticism itself isnt even allowed
cuz youre not supposed to know how someone is performing
strong forum
bro how do people handle the game if theyre not logging or without dmg meters
if its 6man content, and youre not wiping, you cant tell who is underperforming and who isnt
since the roles arent as clear cut as in wow
tanks arent pure tanks or some shit
distant crystal
damn i just agreed to some bullshit new blizzard ToS
chilly brook
Just not immediately obvious if you're not familiar with the spec or w/e
distant crystal
i wonder what's different now
stark sage
bro how do people handle the game if theyre not logging or without dmg meters
from my limited experience, you base performance based on the in game threat meter, or just use 'illegal' addons
strong forum
id use dmg meters insta
like thats 80% of whats still fun about wow
is dmg meters
and whats unfun about PoE
gimme dmg meters
gimme feedback
i want to know if im doing better or not and not just by "feelycraft"
waxen cradle
Well let me put it this way I trolled someone in ff14 before I stopped playing and got in trouble for it, we were doing a dungeon or a Duty as they call them and we wiped on one of the bosses so I trolled a guy and told him the wrong way to do the fight so he died purposely on the next pull and then asked him why he died again and said he needed to learn the dungeon
long story short he knew I just trolled him and got pissed and I got in trouble
lyric shell
Hello guys, need some guidance.
Whats prefered for mythic sire: 222.63 ilvl, 16.91% haste(pre ItF), 26% verse
OR 222.25 ilvl, 25.64% haste(pre ItF), 17% verse
strong forum
25 haste
imo
those 4.5% dmg reduction from vers wont change shit
but getting a whopping 9% haste is defo more beneficial
waxen cradle
All things considered even the whole safe space thing I would play ff14 again if not for the 100+ story hours to get into end game content
strong forum
a few people i know literally just boosted insta
inland raft
wont lie looked at ff14 for first time the other day and the amount of time it looks to even start is pretty intimidating
strong forum
they never played FF, but insta boosted past the story shit
inland raft
im just so set in my ways with wow, mmos are such an investment
strong forum
since endgame is still the main game
waxen cradle
I think you can only boost up to the current story right ?
sick sentinel
haste
waxen cradle
so boost to like its Shadowbringer right now ?
sick sentinel
haste means you can activate more shieldblocks, which is better value than dmg red from versa
strong forum
also 222 is quite low this late into the tier
sick sentinel
i'm still only 213 in bag, 211 equip 😦
strong forum
Well yeah, but you're not on the last boss of the raid
short kiln
I run keys with generally zero kyrians. I'm NF at present. Guess it's time for me to fall on the sword huh? Still have the option of swapping back for 9.1 if I wanted to?
lyric shell
Thanks! ya it was a late switch to my prot alt
blazing condor
Kyrian is dope as well
short kiln
Yeah I figured.
blazing condor
We stan kyrian pwarrs
short kiln
1 min on spear right?
blazing condor
yes
strong forum
Can always switch back and forth between covenants
strong forum
Just takes 2 weekly quests
high folio
AA > spear all day
dry kite
@strong forum ok but like, leave it in the vault when i have a 207 viscera of coalesced hatred bad? other options are legs (Dont need, legendary slot + have backup piece), a ring i already have, or a dogshit 213 mastery neck
strong forum
Pick stygia
👍
Also that dogshit mastery neck isn't by chance sin stained necklace?
Cuz that's literally bis
dry kite
nah i have a sinstained its the dogshit winter charm one
so literally 207 coalesced > 226 slimy consumptive organ? gg no re fuck blizzard weekly slot machine isnt fun
strong forum
so literally 207 coalesced > 226 slimy consumptive organ? gg no re fuck blizzard...
Slimy shit organ literally does nothing, coalesced actually does decent dmg
inland raft
I think time to go to 9.1 waiting room, between affixes and just nothing left to do time for a short break, wonder how long we got
distant crystal
i got 226 Ocarina two weeks in a row
Wish I could make one vers and one haste and go full simp
sick sentinel
i dunno, i don't think the slimy organ so bad
it's still really bad yeah, just, is another button to press, does a heal, i guess my perspective will change when i get bis gear and do 15's reg
fleet river
Spear owns just make an @cursor macro so it's one action to send it
median tulip
Once you have a 220+ Scale and AFE you'll never use another trinket
sick sentinel
i specifically ran the shit out of spires for one i have now, 197 non valor
median tulip
I've heard Decanter of Anima-Charged Winds is pretty solid for multi-target DPS
median tulip
Need help... Thunderlord vs reprisal ?
Reprisal. Thunderlord is fatally undermined by the fact that Thunderclap was nerfed to hit like a wet noodle at the start of SL.
And to forestall your next questions: Legs, Haste/Versa
clever folio
Bhaha @median tulip thanks so much
median tulip
Bhaha <@220649471804047360> thanks so much
You're welcome. We get used to the same questions being asked ;)
sick sentinel
You're welcome. We get used to the same questions being asked ;)
drives me mad, well same person asking same questions
torn gulch
so i have the wall on my shoulders but the shoulder spot will have a domination socket in 9.1
i wonder if i have to change it to the other legendary slot
torn gulch
i hoarded soul ash if i have to do the change
high folio
You're welcome. We get used to the same questions being asked ;)
'i have a 150 piece w BiS stats but i got a ilvl 400000 piece in my vault w bad stats is it still worth?'
high folio
i hoarded soul ash if i have to do the change
im kicking myself for being so lazy w my torghast every week
been playing arms and im trying to get two leggos up to snuff and ugh
torn gulch
i am disgusted every time i have to go to the tower
but i hold my nose and go in
every week
high folio
need to get my sig to 235 and im gonna need to get enduring once i finish this quest lma
fallow jasper
9.1 is apparently july 15th
torn gulch
according to who?
fallow jasper
rumor
torn gulch
i put it at the beggining of july
fallow jasper
same, but 🤷♂️
high folio
another week of no scale from weekly box 
torn gulch
in 9.1 i'm kicking bobsalami out of de other side and moving in until the scale drops then i'll give his dungeon back
i would love to be able to add domination sockets to legos
in 9.1
that will sort so many problems that I am already seeing on the horizon
sick sentinel
i'm not going to drop my warrior unless they turn PW into a literal trashcan
pretty close as it is, last mog had a trash can lid
sick sentinel
protection warrior is perfect because i can see it happening in my imagination so easily
sick sentinel
tried and true since DND in 1980's
clever folio
is upper reaches week and that drops reprisal
I know, I just had it drop on a plus 8!!!
somber glen
What should be the first Kyrian sanctum upgrade I focus on?
tough patio
What should be the first Kyrian sanctum upgrade I focus on?
Mission table can get you Ash if you still need it.
sick sentinel
i skipped like, 2 or 3 months of soul ash basically
i got 3 rank 4s, then i gave up
median tulip
I have done every single week of soul ash farming so far
I'm actually running out of legendaries to craft
fallow beacon
we closing in on bis haste friends
fallow beacon
be close-ish to that, maybe a little less i think
sick sentinel
26% ish righ now
amber panther
hey im a odd venthyr prot war and im looking to change cov but i dint see mush info about it for tank in 9.1 any clue thx all!
high folio
hey im a odd venthyr prot war and im looking to change cov but i dint see mush i...
nightfae or kyrian if you want big aoe
limpid pawn
hey guys, on my alt i can't see like 1 of the maw dailies each day that i see on my main
and can't access the shadehound weekly quests andw hatnot
what is preventing access to this?
sweet summit
rep probably
limpid pawn
ah ok, so the account wide stuff is just allowing alts to buy the sockets
but not actually getting the quests
sweet summit
yes
sick sentinel
hello! new to prot, just had a question about ignore pain, how exaclty does this skill work? does this ignore X dmg during the uptime for each hit recieved or is it like a mage shield and only blocks X amount of dmg
sweet summit
it absorbs 50% of all damage taken up to x amount of damage absorbed
sick sentinel
alrighty thank you 
still struggle with theatre of pain
tried it on a 13, fell apart at last boss
fallow jasper
to be fair, that boss is on the harder side
misty timber
It’s really tough. She’s one of the only m+ bosses that overlap multiple deadly mechanics the whole group needs to deal with.
You can’t reflect every scythe so make sure you have it for the first and 3rd vortexes. They are the most dangerous.
The biggest improvement I’ve felt myself is always moving back to near where she spawns. It’s pretty to easy to dodge all the p2 blue guys from there (there might be better spots but it’s worked for me at 15)
jade tartan
which enchant do you guys use for your weapon?
sweet summit
celestial
strong forum
Ye
jade tartan
ty
strong forum
You can throw in Lightless in m+ for a teensy bit of more dps but obv 0 surv gain
For raid you can throw in sinful for a teensy but of more dps but obv 0 surv gain
So yeah. Celestial is the best all-rounder
ionic fern
Kill the boss 2 seconds faster to avoid an extra swing, wdym.
mental scarab
😂😂😂
ionic fern
sweet summit
yep
blazing gale
So better split to two pulls in 20?
sweet summit
most likely
strong forum
General rule of thumb is, red bars bolster, yellow bars don't.
Boss spawned adds don't bolster
median tulip
Congratulations
blazing condor
😡
daring bay
Hmm legendary on feet or legs? subcreation showing pretty equal divertion
nova idol
Thanks for the tips on Sludge guys, we got him down yesterday
Didn't quite do the best with block uptime but it was much more fun than playing fury
jagged pier
Hmm legendary on feet or legs? subcreation showing pretty equal divertion
If u are killing mythic SLG cosistantly its feet otherwise its legd
blazing condor
Hmm legendary on feet or legs? subcreation showing pretty equal divertion
feet if you can get 233 SLG legs
blazing condor
Thanks for the tips on Sludge guys, we got him down yesterday
grats! : D
daring bay
Ye, idk if my guild will take me on rekills with my new 200 ilvl tank xD
So wait, revenge triggers at the start of the charge not at the end?
daring bay
Ohh right, i assumed it would use revenge when reading it. Then when it didnt i was like "defuk!"
But thats a good chunk of rage on every pull
daring bay
Makes sense :)
ionic fern
It's on cast/start jep.
daring bay
and regarding the booming voice talent, the debuff on enemies dont show that i deal 20% more dmg to them. Blizz just forgot right?
daring bay
Ok, i got a massive urge to actually test it on a dummy. Thankfully it does increase my dmg.
jagged pier
If yu have reprisal u want to run bcs in m+
daring bay
Waaat, but ravager and Dshour lines up so well together :(
and spear to most of the time
ionic fern
You can play Demo shout if you want to but in general BSC provides more value when ran together with Reprisal.
daring bay
Yeah, not arguing with its efficiency :) just a shame since i liked booming voice quite a bit
ionic fern
Honestly - it's a game, do what you enjoy. 
daring bay
I enjoy taking all 3 lvl 45 talents at the same time :(
median tulip
226 Fleshfused Crushers in my vault \o/
median tulip
Haste/Vers Gloves
sweet summit
nice
median tulip
My previous gloves were only 220, and Crit/Mastery, so big tanking upgrade there
and puts me on 224 ilvl overall
brittle owl
Honestly - it's a game, do what you enjoy. <:deswind:533073964096946176>
fun not allowed, only sweaty nerdskin
brittle owl
like no one ever was?
strong forum
To catch them is your real test?
brittle owl
to train them is your cause?
blazing condor
mellow bridge
obv on my fresh 198 warrior I get pulsating stoneheart and legs in my very first vault
zzzzzz
this hurts me
cinder nova
take either legs or helm. If you're using The Wall on shoulders having a legs backup is useful
tame jasper
take either legs or helm. If you're using The Wall on shoulders having a legs ba...
This was what I was gonna to write too 🙂
sick sentinel
what do you do about the final boss of TOP
elfin nova
Press spell reflect
sick sentinel
p3, i always got shit caved in on like, 4 attempts one a 13
strong forum
Lust on 50%
Not before
And hold reflect always for the scythe
That's really it. Rest is don't stand in fire and dodge teh tings
strong forum
Well that's just a thing of git gud
🤷♂️
Always stay on the outer edge of the ring
Never in the middle
sick sentinel
the other link thng she does where u have to run away, that seems to hurt alot too
strong forum
Healer mechanic
The boss is literally, don't stand in bad
And reflect scythe
Das it
Maybe tanknotes says more about it
ionic fern
Jep, and in 2nd phase just chill on the outer ring as Nome said - makes it really easy to dodge.
strong forum
Recommend checking out their m+ section
daring bay
Anyone know if its possible to have a mouseover macro only work when you hover over party frames? i have
#showtooltip
/cast [harm,nodead] Charge; [@mouseover,exists,help,nodead][@player] Intervene
Just dont want the scenarios where i am ready to charge in and i intervene onto a random dude my mouse is hovering over
strong forum
Put intervene first
It's a prio list
If you put charge infront of intervene, you will only intervene when you can't charge
If you put intervene first, it'll always intervene if you have mouseover a friendly
Ah you dont want that
Na, @mouseover will always work on friendlies, don't think you can make it party frames exclusive
You can prevent the mouseover issue from happing if you hold your mousebuttons
You can't mouseover smth if your mouse is clicked
signal plover
Yeh that's the only straightforward workaround afaik
Other than a separate keybind
Which kinda defeats the purpose
daring bay
Yeah, i used to have neither charge or intervene on mouseover. But its kinda annoying clicking a melee everytime i wanna intervene
But, i try the mouseholding techniqe and worse case scenario me intervening somone prepull isnt gonna end the world :V
jagged pier
I did that on purpose on sludge
strong forum
Get that CD rolling
blazing condor
party frames intervene is better than -clickclickclickclickclick- all around you trying to hit a team mate
mellow bridge
Just take the Helm
yeah that was my idea as well tbh
I'm only gonna use reprisal realistically for a long time anyway so I dont rly need legs
primal nimbus
What do you guys think I should pick up from vault? Going to be tanking sire tonight.
Head/wep would both be solid 6 ilvl increase, but I'm considering trinket due to only having Skulker's and Council trinket so far.
strong forum
That necklace is BiS
Trinket would be a waste to pick from vault, and should only use it if youre scared of dying.
primal nimbus
Yea was also considering that,but have huntsman neck atm
strong forum
If weapon is an upgrade, pick weapon
frosty ridge
if you're progging sire mythic then alar is great pick
unique shale
strong forum
Idk, would be a waste, get it on hc/nm/lfr
All versions are good enough
Literally all of em
frosty ridge
but if the prog is right now, why wait for some potential lottery drop
just get it now
strong forum
I personally wouldn't.
unique shale
cause you can get better trinkets
strong forum
I wouldn't even run it if I had it, But that's me
unique shale
frosty ridge
especially for prog, saves you pulls and gets you further faster
primal nimbus
I dont really think I'm going to die, it's reclear for us, I'm just tanking cus our last tank quit
frosty ridge
if re-clear then nevermind
primal nimbus
from talking with other tanks, i'm not going to have many dangerous jobs on that fight
strong forum
Ye if you're just a sit-in, the other tank will just do the harder jobs and literally tell you when to taunt or w/e
Very simple to be co-tank
primal nimbus
Aight, but wep would still be better than neck since its ilvl increase right?
unique shale
if you send pic from your items it would be better cause we don't know what are you wearing right now
unique shale
strong forum
It's literally the only big haste neck in the game
primal nimbus
this is my current loadout
modern brook
Nice mog 🤢
unique shale
lol
primal nimbus
Yea had to get ready in a hurry so ive had like two clears worth of hand me downs 😄
daring bay
this is my current loadout
Hump back orc??! 
strong forum
It could be worse, he could be maghar.
primal nimbus
Yo I came here for advice not to get roasted for my flowerloving orc xD
strong forum
Tmog > everything
primal nimbus
Soo, neck might be a better choice than wep?
strong forum
No, but it's just a shame
unique shale
Soo, neck might be a better choice than wep?
no weapon
strong forum
Shame to have to let go the bis neck. But the 220 version is also good enough
strong forum
Cuz they're bad
If anyone mentions vers I know they're a shitter and I just make fun of them
unique shale
strong forum
In any tank channel that isn't bdk or monk
For bdk and Monk it actually is the best stat
blazing condor
hey guys i finally got 30% vers and have around 7% haste why cant i do 25s
strong forum
Must be the vers bro...
blazing condor
maybe need at least 35
unique shale
lol
strong forum
Not as much as not having enough vers
blazing condor
big true
i hacked the game so any mainstat automatically transform to vers
i got around 120% dmg reduc now
but cant hold aggro for some reason....
strong forum
Should've played signet. I heard it generates alot of rage
strong forum
PSA: this has been memes, don't follow what has just been said.
unique shale
somebody should turn that into pic meme
strong forum
Which pic
inland raft
Stack vers and go negative haste got it
high folio
Stack vers and go negative haste got it
unique shale
like tank 101 lesson
aright i going to make it i will send it in off topic soon or here
sick sentinel
what i was having issue with on the last boss of TOP more specifically was the direction which the ghosts were charging
i would go to look where they were going to charge, get confused, lazer would go off and it would all go to shit from there
strong forum
Yeah that's generally what happens
You forget the 4th charger where he's going
Cuz he comes so late
The close 3 are easy, but the 4th, the one that's directly opposite to you gets easily missed
sick sentinel
i'll probably find a cheese spot for it where they can't run or spawn some shit like final boss of ML
there was a tiny part of corner on a sqaure and micro missiel never hit u there, so it was default stack location
strong forum
I rate it
"vers / haste"
The last 2 frames should be the same text on the board
So move signet to the first panel aswell
And the make fun part to the top right
Then the 2 bottom ones are the negative
That's how the template should be used 👍
sick sentinel
there's something about you can push her phases early and she stops whatever she is doing to do to go to dark world
primal nimbus
Just noticed that the neck even have leech on it
sick sentinel
so, that may help
jagged pier
Just noticed that the neck even have leech on it
Still wep, neck and rings are like last slot to fill
primal nimbus
Yea will pick wep, just feelsBadMan
unique shale
That's how the template should be used 👍
Done pin it
i bored playing prot war any challenge to do ?
high folio
big boy keys
ionic fern
@unique shale whirlwind instead of revenge
unique shale
<@493219369648783371> whirlwind instead of revenge
lol should be fun
high folio
whats your io?
unique shale
1.6k
high folio
hmm you should be able to get into 18 and 19's relatively easily
then again, most people will only run w DH's and Druids bc fotm
unique shale
yeah sad i even tried to dps but no luck with mostly tank rio
high folio
bad luck atm i g
community view on prot warriors is generally p garbage
people always think we are bad
misty charm
people always think we are bad
we are bad
but that has nothing to do with the class but with the players
high folio
D:
misty charm
lying to yourself isnt healthy
misty charm
strong forum
But we can all agree
There are no good tanks
You either die to shit tanks, or live long enough to see yourself become the shit tank.
strong forum
And it's true, thats the best part
misty charm
or die and be bad because you didnt use your 7 interrupts
strong forum
Most tank players started playing tank cuz other tanks are just shit
lime urchin
I only tank because we have thunderclap
strong forum
thin nexus
hmm you should be able to get into 18 and 19's relatively easily
i couldnt get into a single 19 until 1700
maybe im just unlucky
blazing condor
i really dont know why i started tanking
possibly due to being able to do HCs faster and get mounts from the satchels back in cata
high folio
i couldnt get into a single 19 until 1700
its hit and miss dude
blazing condor
i remember queuing in, going on a pack, losing aggro because idk wtf i was doing then promptly leaving cus i was scared
thin nexus
its hit and miss dude
word
strong forum
I started as "rent-a-tank" back in cata, get paid to get faster queues for hcs and clear them efficiently
Was legit a service back then
blazing condor
doing HCs and capping valor/justice was all the end-game you could do in PVE back then
except raiding lmao
strong forum
And in wod I tanked for CMs
blazing condor
so i get it
strong forum
Cuz I was tired of shit tanks
First I was dps but the tanks were horrid
So I cba'd hard enough to tank it myself
strong forum
Same in legion when m+ came out, tanked cuz I didn't want shit tanks
blazing condor
i was just a shit dps in general in cata
my rotation consisted of bloodthirst and heroic strike
unique shale
It's really not.
whirlwind and Seismic Reverberation let's go
thin nexus
i got ksm with seismic reverberation just because i hated torghast and it was the only legendary i had
its kiinda fun with revenge lol
unique shale
i got ksm with seismic reverberation just because i hated torghast and it was th...
seismic is really good lego if you can live through dungs 😄
i really enjoy seismic for month now i never go back
easy 20k dps on aoe
tame jasper
I became tank one evening in Scholonance, because 4 mates wanted to go their. I hadn't specct prot before, needed to buy a shield from a vendor. But after 4h full of wipes and many laughing in voice chat I was addictated
unique shale
get pi and go brrrrrrrrrrr
tame jasper
took some time to get raid-tank, because raid/guidlleads gf was maintank - well until valestraze, where she was blow by all others and dps said: change tanks or we quit
high folio
now that im NF im prob gonna actually put a little effort into pushing my IO a bit.
My overal damage in keys has taken a hit tho, prob a comfort thing tbh.
unique shale
now that im NF im prob gonna actually put a little effort into pushing my IO a b...
seismic lego and profit
high folio
def not giving up reprisal lmaoooo
unique shale
not chad enough next !
high folio
D:
w the AA desync from the conduit should i be holding it for my other cds or just dump it on cd?
honest plinth
My overal damage in keys has taken a hit tho, prob a comfort thing tbh.
nfs are pumping shrug
high folio
nfs are pumping shrug
ik they are im just doing something wrong and trying to work out what it is
honest plinth
w the AA desync from the conduit should i be holding it for my other cds or just...
im personally use it on cd
well i can hold for like 5 seconds
or somethng like that
if big is coming
high folio
hmm i see
wild hemlock
Most tank players started playing tank cuz other tanks are just shit
i saw wowhobbs the prot pally pull all scarlet monestary and solo and thats why i tank lmaoo
fleet river
yes it is a very high magic damage dungeon
sick sentinel
fleet river
makes me very grateful to have almost 15% avoidance
sick sentinel
this is dk vs paladin, but it could be modified for PW
hollow sun
my healer complained a lot ( it was a 17) but my block uptime was 75%, not exceptional but ok
fleet river
block doesn't really help against magic damage
heavily coordinating kicks is the only way to be happy in spires. short of that, getting good use out of ignore pain and spell reflect are your best hopes
hollow sun
hmm
undone verge
ignore pain go
hollow sun
the 2nd source of damage was dark seeker
so i prob need to be more in melee
of that mob
high folio
heavily coordinating kicks is the only way to be happy in spires. short of that,...
dont forget you can SR the ether driver thingies
sync up the casts w a stun and watch the pack fall over
undone verge
what key levels?
undone verge
well my 16 wont really be any help
its usually just interrupts and spell reflects
try to keep ignore pain up
fleet river
you also have an aoe fear, an aoe stun, and a single target stun
high folio
DT all day w reprisal
undone verge
DT all day w reprisal
👍
fleet river
i'd probably go dt if i'm pugging though
undone verge
dt is so usefull
fleet river
i dont pug much any more
undone verge
I only pug
high folio
not going dt is literally giving up a SB charge
fleet river
my group is full of mob disruption so block uptime matters less
having extra interrupts is more helpful
to me
like i said, i dont really pug any more on my warrior
hollow sun
it was actually a guild group but we aren't that good to do 18s without effort
what are the casts you proritize?
that dark lash hurts as well but it just doesn't stop casting it
fleet river
dark lash will wreck anyone
etherdivers stack their stuff up, being kyrian helps with that too
hollow sun
you mean the dot?
fleet river
yeah
hollow sun
but how do you deal with the lash
fleet river
dont let it cast lol
hollow sun
cause there is also burned of knowledge to interrupt
fleet river
i mean, there are a million ways to disrupt casts. you just have to lock them down until they are dead
jagged pier
Learning to stack ether casts and SRing is awesome
fleet river
its gonna differ a lot based on group comp
rancid ember
My group runs ele Sham so he can solo kick all Goliath's minus the double Goliath pull. Makes kicking everything else that much simpler.
Plus we get to blame him if we die to a goliath kick 🙂
sick sentinel
spires is hard this week right?
i have to do either TOP or spires for progression towards all 10's that allows me to take my valor gear past 207
undone verge
top is my favorite dungeon
sick sentinel
not me, fuck that place
undone verge
all dungeons that require good interrupt are a a bitch on inspiring weeks
sick sentinel
we are tornado and bolster week, boss week
undone verge
why do people hate top 😦
modern brook
stinky rng dungeon
sick sentinel
because the teleporter doesn't take you to your latest cleared/safe landing pad
so you waste at least 2 minutes walking back after u die to black tornadoes
thin nexus
can you spell reflect multiple spells at once if theyre cast in a similar time period?
it always feels like you can but i dont have confirmation
sick sentinel
i feel like if you cleared 1 platform, it should remember that, and send you to the next one, possibly highlights both portal clicky thingies so you know which are connected
hollow sun
@thin nexus you can
thin nexus
🙂
hollow sun
like the birds in spires
it was ike this in pvp as well
if two spells were launched at the same moment you could reflect both
sick sentinel
way i learned it was
distant crystal
first boss temple of seth never 4get
sick sentinel
you get a shadow bolt single target spell cast on you, maybe curse whatever, it goes back
AOE, you only get the -20
thin nexus
i feel like if you cleared 1 platform, it should remember that, and send you to ...
god this would fix everything
brittle owl
first boss temple of seth never 4get
die bfa SR die
honest plinth
it was rude
rancid ember
Blizz trying to remove snaps all together. People still finding some, but they're not nearly as rampant as BFA
honest plinth
for 5 seconds or so
rancid ember
My group tried the Amarth snap recently, but I don't it's worth it tbh felt weird
hollow sun
i saw one in sd but mobs just evade
rancid ember
They usually evade like 5-6 seconds, and aggro coming off the evade is a big issue.
honest plinth
yes its anti snap protection
hollow sun
i also was able to snap the lubricator in dos to the 2nd boss to we would get a full pride on the boss but he keeps evading for a good 20s
rancid ember
That sounds weird tbh lol. Fuck drills skip both
rancid ember
Oh u sed lub mb,
My group tried that recently, but they teleported up to the boss platform, and then teleported back down and dropped aggro.
honest plinth
hmm idk im doing it in every run
rancid ember
Fixed or unlucky?
honest plinth
did it yday
rancid ember
You use an MD or just have a ranged pull 1-2?
honest plinth
ranged is pulling 3 souls
and im clicking on them like a mad madman
when they are on plat
hollow sun
why don't you pull them togheder with the others?
honest plinth
because of route
we are pulling big mob with 1st boss
and shrouding to kultarok
just killing 5 souls
blazing condor
The only correct strat is to pull a bunch of mobs onto the boss and bolster tf out of it
jagged pier
blazing condor
i threw my first SD 15 that way cus we were short on time and i forgot that it worked that way
strong forum
happens
pine cypress
Which covenant is looking the best for raiding in 9.1 so far with the new soulbind rows, some of the traits look really strong, on paper at least
high folio
nf necro or kyrian
pine cypress
My warrior is a Venthyr currently but I am being called to tank next tier and its basically a fresh lvl 60, so switching isnt that big a setback currently
They all roughly even with eachother? new soulbind rows considered?
NF/Nec/Kyr I mean
sweet summit
shits not finalized, as of now nothing changes so kyrian>=nf with nf being more damage
necrolord is good on paper, but not that great in action
strong forum
nop
high folio
My warrior is a Venthyr currently but I am being called to tank next tier and it...
Venthyr prot is fine, i rant it for a long time
sick sentinel
besides no weapon durability (which we probably can't even choose) why would i want to do NF for keys
i have 40 kyrian
pine cypress
Venthyr prot is fine, i rant it for a long time
I do like the look of draven, Though condemn seems kinda useless as prot
sick sentinel
i think soul bind conduits should be 4 or 5 lanes
pine cypress
is that your experieence?
sweet summit
nadjia 🥺
draven 🤢
sick sentinel
just add in another column of conduits and we can choose whatever,
high folio
I do like the look of draven, Though condemn seems kinda useless as prot
i ran nadja for more damage, draven is kinda useless in for a prot warrior. our health isnt volatile enough to get value out of the 10% DR
and condemn allows you to actually use execute without completely screwing your ability to mit some damage
sick sentinel
i still really want to re-roll venthyr for the shield and possibly raiding
high folio
its awesome on pull w lust bc youll burst really hard and you get a fatty absorb w the condemn spam
pine cypress
If you are actively tanking at the time though, iisnt the rage better spent on Ignore pain and/or Block?
high folio
depends
do you need ip or block?
are you taking enough damage to need more mitigitation then the aborb shield?
pine cypress
Most of the time I would assume yea on progression fights
high folio
again it depends
on pull you can spam the fuck out of condemn w lust and all your cds up
and your absorb stacks up prett quick
the for the next 60% of the bosses health tank like normal
then for the last 20% use it as much as you can
pine cypress
Hm, I might have to revaluate using condemn then, II had kinda written it off while tanking for the most part to be honest, I appreciate the input 🙂
high folio
be smart w your resources of course but like being venthyr isnt going to make you magically get one shot by stuff and die all the time
i got my ksm as a venthyr prot warrior haha
pine cypress
Nice man, good work
high folio
thats if you wanted to stay venthy bc of your off specs
at the end of the day unless youre at the bleeding edge of progression you can play whatever you want and do well
unique shale
wdym i am venthyr prot warrior for ever
pine cypress
I originally went Venthyr because I was playing fury
high folio
i only recently went NF bc i wanted to mix things up a bit
pine cypress
and Condemn as fury is awesome
high folio
yeah its hella fun
unique shale
world first prot war was venthyr for while until 9.0.5
high folio
yeah, its not bad by any stretch of the imagination, and adds quite a bit of damage
unique shale
big ST damage
unique shale
and general draven for full dps build
high folio
wtf no
unique shale
lol yeah
unique shale
i mean i running seismic
high folio
that still wouldnt explain how draven provides more damage over nadjia
pp sure dravens only offensive trait is that 4% strength thing
unique shale
if i am running seismic i have to make up for defensive lost for it
high folio
nadjia is sitll pretty defensive
you proc that baby lust a lot in keys, lots of resources and cd reduction
unique shale
10% damage reduction & 4% strength over what ?
high folio
that dmg reduction only kicks in if youre at like 40% health
at which for a prot warrior youre fucked already if you dip that low
sick sentinel
maybe, depends lol
high folio
and nadjia has euphoria, which is a 20% haste buff, and then theres either duelist for ST or the better enchants and food buffs one i forget what its called
sick sentinel
i ain't afraid of no 40%, but then again i have a phial for my fail to give me 20% bring me to safe lol
high folio
outside of last stand and like lock cookies prot doesnt have anything to save themselves if theyre that low, they need bomb healing
unique shale
i have 28% haste so i don't think i need more than that haste i even going ravager in raid for dps
high folio
its a bloodlust basically
sick sentinel
tanking has lead me to a life where we can sometimes win with 2 dead and a shammy earth ele rock dude, and we kill the boss anyway
and then you pull , or you don't and people randomly die to anything, nothing you can do outside of rally...
high folio
i have 28% haste so i don't think i need more than that haste i even going ravag...
at the end of the day play what you want, i just find draven kinda useless for prot. those traits dont work w our kit that well
limpid pawn
im thinking of going night fae because i'm goign to be dpsing too but the lack of kyrian concerns me
high folio
its not a big deal
limpid pawn
are any other meta classes currently going kyrian
like spires/nw won't have a kyrian most of the time
high folio
hpally and prot pally are good as kyrian
high folio
monks as well
sick sentinel
i want to roll NF pally giga buffs
high folio
this is warrior disc why you asking ab paladins lmao
brittle owl
you can ask about any class
strong forum
Monks are like the only dps spec I know thats kyrian
brittle owl
just don't expect top tier advice
high folio
just don't expect top tier advice
^
unique shale
same as prot warriors
blazing gale
will be hard to form a solid team with blizzard thinking its fine to have 20 ranged specs in nf and 1 boomy probably going venthyr
high folio
kyrian dks are solid
high folio
frost dk that is
unique shale
will be hard to form a solid team with blizzard thinking its fine to have 20 ran...
its not hard to form team if people think they need meta classes to time a 15 XD
blazing gale
you can do 15's blindfolded with 1 afk person
unique shale
ofc
blazing gale
still you want all 4 covs in your team
unique shale
still you want all 4 covs in your team
and you still don't need bis covs to time 15
sick sentinel
near pewter
I'm currently NF, but thinking of switching Kyrian for 9.1 to do M+. Any thoughts on the changes to covenants for 9.1? Has anyone put out any videos based on PTR info so far?
sweet summit
there are not any direct changes to covenant balance yet, and the soulbinds are not finalized
so its still up in the air
the kyrian legendary doesnt even exist yet
dusky tapir
hitting 31% haste at 214ilvl, the button mash is real
strong forum
Now try to keep the haste and get 12 more ilvl!
dusky tapir
i'm gonna enjoy my haste while I can and spam revenge forever
brittle owl
atta boy
mellow patio
Revenj
brittle owl
rancid ember
zenith monolith
anyone got any P2 & P3 tips for serviceability Sire Mythic ?
rancid ember
I was like damn this man out here trying to service his raid for real for real.
Where are your pain points? Do you have logs?
zenith monolith
seems I am getting randomly meleed to death by Sire
I think its worse dancing through mirrors
but not consistently noticed whats going on yet
just after some dos and donts
strong forum
make sure to always be topped when going through mirrors and pop a SW or ask for an external
those are the scariest moments
and when he teleports he has a habit of slapping you in the back
zenith monolith
yeah thats happened 😦
jagged pier
Just got to plan tbh
Like i can tell you what i do but i bet you will be doing it differently
Like i have a set time for cds etc etc
zenith monolith
what cooldowns do you use when roughly ?
like I am reflecting the blood prices in P3
using reflect for magic in P2
sblock as much as I can obv
rancid ember
Also careful of puddles from Impale. I believe they increase your damage taken by 100%
jagged pier
They do
zenith monolith
ah do they
jagged pier
Yes
zenith monolith
that would explain a few deaths lol
rancid ember
Going through Mirror and stepping in a puddle /w Daddy on you = Big dammm
jagged pier
Well see im running AM and rep so i need to weave a tune of ccharges and stuff in, but generally go down i take boss and sword so they stack on platform for cleave i use pot when we get dragged to stop the damage then scale throuhh the mirror
Then sw first set of cabs
Ls second
Then sort of wing it
Then sw first set of soaks phase 3
And save for 9 mins apprently i need sw there
Rotate trinket and LS as needed
zenith monolith
yeah ok makes sense
safe thistle
oh yah kyrian pot is so good
zenith monolith
about to start now, ty guys
jagged pier
Oh and paladin uses sac on me twice
But honestly dont know where first platform for sure
safe thistle
they just nerfed sir by transitionning at 37% to p3 too
jagged pier
And u can use LS on first night hunter scale second and sw third and u will have them all back by phase 2
jagged pier
they just nerfed sir by transitionning at 37% to p3 too
Yer but u still have to get there
safe thistle
make p2-p3 easier
tacit smelt
anyone remember the command for max range of our camera, cant remember it since wow was redownloaded on new pc
nvm got it now
dull fossil
Also careful of puddles from Impale. I believe they increase your damage taken b...
is that mythic only or also on Hc?
rancid ember
Mythic only
dull fossil
k ty
obsidian gate
modern brook
Fun just not 8 months fun
blazing condor
yeah it really needs that new patch asap
steady slate
I got a 203 Hymnal of the Path from the Bastion emissary today. I'm using a 210 scale and 213 overwhelming power crystal. is the new trinket worth using?
high folio
no
steady slate
dang. i was almost excited. i hadn't seen this drop before
sweet summit
its probably better than opc for damage
and you dont have to use two on use trinkets
so win win
@steady slate
sweet summit
no
high folio
nvm it came back up as soon as i started bithcing ab it
modern brook
All technology runs on complaints tbh
amber herald
very sus if you ask me
heavily implies we're getting two legendaries
(they did it to a few other legendaries as well)
amber herald
tooltip change they've already got that buff 🙁
chilly brook
Smh
muted arch
best all around cov is night fae right?
torn gulch
they puit more slots on legos because of the shard of domination system
not because of 2 legos
for example i have the wall on shoulders but the shouder slot is gonna have a domination socket
young oasis
sturdy sable
That makes sense
torn gulch
depending on how good the socket is might have to change my wall lego slot
mighty valley
Kyrian leggo sounds nice for burst if I was gonna switch to kyrian and build a lot of crit... two things i'm not doing
torn gulch
looks more of a dps lego
amber herald
they all are
muted arch
anyone? best cov for 9.1 prog
chilly brook
tooltip change they've already got that buff 🙁
Leave it to wowhead to say it's a buff when it's not and blizzard to just bot have things in the tooltips
chilly brook
anyone? best cov for 9.1 prog
Nothing has changed
NF, Kyrian and Venthyr all have their merits for prog
muted arch
do any of them pull ahead
chilly brook
Pull ahead how
NF big pumper in aoe and good soulbinds, Kyrian good balance and Venthyr best single target
muted arch
seems like most top players go nightfae tho right?
chilly brook
Most top players are Kyrian
muted arch
oh interesting
muted arch
cant decide between fae and kyrian
amber herald
do you play fury?
muted arch
no
amber herald
then NF is good for both in raids and m+
muted arch
just prot likely
chilly brook
Mess with both of them
muted arch
yeah gunna try out kyrian first
is there any reasons for going one way or the other?
asside from enjoying either
chilly brook
Kyrian is slightly more defensive
fallow beacon
if you are big on m+ there are far less kyrian than night fae typically
chilly brook
Also that
lavish oracle
Any idea why some leggos are getting a 3rd crafting slot option?
Potential for 2nd leggo to come sooner than we think or is it to avoid some itemization conflict I'm not grasping
lavish oracle
Ah
tender pecan
Some of the new socket items are on pieces most people have leggos on
Ie Wall shoulders
lavish oracle
I mean, things like Unhinged got chest added to their options when they already had wrist, hands, seems like it creates more socket problems than it solves, no?
Chest is one of the double socket slots iirc
sick sentinel
Elysian Might, Requires: Warrior, Runecarving Power on: Legs, Feet
Spear of Bastion's duration is increased by 4 sec. While you remain within Spear of Bastion's area your critical strike damage is increased by 25%.
inland raft
Not sure like the look of this affix i dont know why they are doubling down on anima powers
urban portal
At least you don't fuck up the whole dungeon because you ass pulled 1 mob
sick sentinel
Charge and Intervene grant you Shield Block for 4 sec, Revenge!, and generate 20 Rage.
Inventory Type: Legs, FeetHead, Legs, Feet
pallid isle
The tank looking powers look 1000% better for non-prot warriors
narrow karma
DPS main who loved prot in Legion. What happened? I hardly ever see warrior tanks anymore
inland raft
We are really good just the fate of warriors is that if we aren’t absolutely top tier noone wants to play us
And if we are then obviously we need to be nerfed to hell
Not a popular spec overall what it boils down to
narrow karma
M+ only but I’ve been considering rolling a tank. Loved warriors for so long but I’m worried since I never see them. Wondering what’s up? Aren’t our defensives just baked into our rotation? Meaning we aren’t reacting after damage is done?
inland raft
People just on the vdh/bear train
Vdh king if kite and shadowlands is very kite heavy at least in 9.0 and 9.0.5 and bear is just broken op defensively
narrow karma
Which is best suited for either baked in rotation mitigating or responsive mitigation? I’m not good enough to rely completely on knowing when to hit a big defensive right before a lethal mechanic
sturdy sable
Thats really something you ahould be doing on all tanks though
quiet crane
Bear I wouldn’t say is OP outside incarn
cinder nova
Bear is like...
The most milquetoast tank.
It performs, but holy fuck is it generic in how it gets there.
warped mulch
I hopped on my old bear and vdh earlier to check them out. The lack of buttons compared to warrior is crazy
torpid cliff
What spec is the kyrian leggo even good for lmao
Fury, which doesnt even go kyrian
Beyond dissapointing
sweet summit
it would be good if you could use it together with first strike lmao
blazing condor
🤔
tame jasper
the m+ changes sound interesting and strange at the same time, changes m+ into thorghast. Don't know if I like this yet.
tame jasper
and at higher keys you are most probably forced to play them
to gete rid of the auras
tame jasper
oh yeah thats wat tanking is about in SL, you are right ^^
torpid cliff
Run new kyrian leggo
Have to kite more due to lower SB uptime
Can pump more crits during main kiting tool
???
Dev logic
strong forum
The stupid thing about the cov legendaries is, they have to be balanced for all 3 specs
So the kyrian leggo was doomed to not be good for prot
tame jasper
which shows again: coevnants sucks ^^
strong forum
It's good for pvp, thats 1 thing
strong forum
But like, you can't make a leggo that's good for prot ( better than reprisal) and have it not be broken
strong forum
maybe we can have 1 cov leggo + 1 other leggo
That would then be very slot restrictive as you would 100% play both leggos
So that's also not an option
The cov leggo thing is just stupid
tame jasper
double legendary not before last content patch blizz said once, didnt they?
torpid cliff
Reprisal should be baked into the spec tbh, like a talent or passive or split up. Not as a leggo
strong forum
Yes, reprisal is a bandaid to fix the spec, more than an actual enhancement like a legendary should be
sweet summit
brittle owl
Yes, reprisal is a bandaid to fix the spec, more than an actual enhancement like...
wdym, it changes gameplay
you turn into a zoomer
nyooom
strong forum
Yes but it literally is a bandaid fix to the spec
Everything that is wrong with prot is fixed with this legendary
Alone
brittle owl
fixing this specific issue with prot warr can be adressed by fixing the AM mechanic entirely
for all specs
blazing condor
i may be stupid
strong forum
@sweet summit can you test if signet works for prot yet
jagged pier
arent we all
sweet summit
sir yes sir
sweet summit
do you want the long answer or the sort answer
blazing condor
the sort
sweet summit
no
blazing condor
strong forum
Unlugg Q next
jagged pier
Then we will all miss charge and intervene weaving in 10.0
blazing condor
why did they remove intercept
sweet summit
because fuck you
blazing condor
erga on x game mode today