protection

[strong forum]

in raid, also just on CD outside of SLG where you can intervene the goliath charge

[light sorrel]

I don't care much about M+ for my Warrior aside from gear. I'll tank M+ on my Monk and raid on my Warrior for those fat Necro buffs

[strong forum]

there are no noteworthy mechanics to take instead of someone else besides goliath charge thingy

[light sorrel]

My concern was more "I don't want to reset my stacks" when I intervene

If that is a mechanic for a fight

[light thicket]

So dont intervene the co tank on denathrius p3

[fathom spindle]

Aye, i run the Rallying cry finesse, so i don’t really Intervene anyone for the DR, mainly for SB uptime

[light sorrel]

^

[light thicket]

Got it

[strong forum]

i would never intervene my cotank unless hes dying

and on sludge

its a good thing to do on sludge, just intervene your cotank, pop SW and you eat both melees

and you feel like a god doing so

[light sorrel]

Isn't it better to intervene your tank on CD since it's just so much damage reduction from Shield Block?

[fathom spindle]

Pfft, warriors are terrific at handling magic DoTs...

I’d Intervene my co-OP DH tank all the time 😅😅

[strong forum]

thats just wasted block uptime

for when youre tanking

[strong forum]

intervene only works for physical abilites and melee hits

not for magic stuff

[jagged pier]

i honestly intervene my cotank

[fathom spindle]

Ohh, nvm then

[light sorrel]

I think he was being sarcastic

oh nvm

[jagged pier]

but on sludge he did have cancel aura

[fathom spindle]

I was, but thought i would get the DoT regardless 🙂

[light sorrel]

^ going to make my tank make a cancelaura

If he can output more damage from me intervening him, I don't see why not

[strong forum]

na, i intervene chainslam targets

and my cotank when he needs it

cuz hes a weak vdh

[jagged pier]

get them to macro their most usesed spells

[strong forum]

and he gets hurty on sludge

poor little dh

[light sorrel]

😦

[fathom spindle]

Yeah, i can solo tank Sludge on HC on my DH.
Mythic is another story

[jagged pier]

i got told my mythic sluge fist log was disgusting to look at

in terms of mitigation

[fathom spindle]

Disgusting as in?

[jagged pier]

OP as fuck

[fathom spindle]

Nerf inc!

[chilly brook]

I dont even want to consider the pain in the ass that necro in raid would be

[fathom spindle]

Btw, can you block the giant fists?

[chilly brook]

Yes

[sturdy sable]

Yes

[fathom spindle]

Thanks

[chilly brook]

Its a physical ability what would make you think you couldn't?

[fathom spindle]

I remember monks don’t proc mastery on it.

[chilly brook]

They do

That's been fixed

Afaik

[fathom spindle]

Ahha, Alrigjt.

[light sorrel]

I'm there for Battle Shout and for Necrobanner. I find Bear/Paladin boring because it's pretty afk but Warrior seems fairly active.

[fathom spindle]

Was just a tad bit unsure, If it acted differently

[light sorrel]

so if I'm taking a lot of damage, seems more fun to me.

I get to actually play the role properly lol

[chilly brook]

14 dps who all probably want the buff and a cotank that's right next to you practically all the time

[light sorrel]

We'll figure it out, it's not that serious

The people that care about their parses a lot can stand next to me

[chilly brook]

Seems like an absolute nightmare to get on the right people

[light sorrel]

Again, it's not that serious

[chilly brook]

Not if its sludge

[fathom spindle]

Necro banner is Awesome on Sludge ive heard.

Ask the DPS that wants the mastery to snuggle up real close 🙂

[light sorrel]

We're not out here having a panic attack and screaming at each other in raid because one person didn't get their mastery

If you don't get it, you don't get it

There are a lot of fights where the 2 DKs can just stand right beside me and be happy

and if they can't on some fights, that's okay.

[chilly brook]

If it's not going to the right people though it's not even worth

[light sorrel]

It's closest two allies

If the DKs are right beside me, they'll get it

[fathom spindle]

But why would you wanna make DK’s happy in the first place? 🤔

[chilly brook]

Wouldn't it be better for the mage? Or boomie?

[light sorrel]

Like on Hunts. off tank is off in narnia with dogs 2/3 all the time so they DKs can just stand next to me

If they want to stand in melee range, sure

It's DKs main stat also

[jagged pier]

yes blocked all but one hence why my log was disgusting

[light sorrel]

@fathom spindle I'm raid lead, only here to make people happy lol

[fathom spindle]

How do you get thst much uptime with SB?
No safe way to charge/Intervene right?

[jagged pier]

there is

hang on

[blazing condor]

So i logged a run now how can i see effective uptime? i am looking at buffs rn but it seems like its just overall uptime

[fathom spindle]

That’s neat of you 🥰

[light sorrel]

🙂

[jagged pier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNrx_TNv1No&ab_channel=Jakeyplops

[sweet summit]

you -> damage taken -> mouseover melee "hits" @blazing condor

[fathom spindle]

Gonna check right away!
Thanks mate!

[blazing condor]

thanks c:

[chilly brook]

I ran the wall though

[jagged pier]

i made it cause i was trying it early on in the patch and ppl asked me to break down how i made it work

[chilly brook]

There absolutely is

[jagged pier]

[chilly brook]

Have your cotank have a cancel aura macro

And you can charge in every stomp

[jagged pier]

u can still do it without intervening your co tank

[chilly brook]

Just let your cotank move towards boss for a second or two before you charge

[jagged pier]

and get the same uptie

just a bit less forgiving

[chilly brook]

I used a lot of movement on Sludge

Tbh

[blazing condor]

so if i got lets say 90% blocked melee thats my effective uptime right?

[chilly brook]

Yes

[jagged pier]

yes

[blazing condor]

thanks

[chilly brook]

My blocked hits on SLG are lower than I'd like but lots of random hits to the side or back because adds do weird things

[jagged pier]

i dont even know what mine were tbh

i just made sure i had it up on greg

[torpid fiber]

anyone else run dos almost 20 times in a row for the blood spattered scale just to not see it once...?

[jagged pier]

and tank both at the end

[coral kayak]

Im sorry to say this but i got it on my first run with my warrior alt

[jagged pier]

thats how loot works atm

you best way to get it going in with 5 ppl who can loot it

and get them all the to change

[torpid fiber]

my spirit is breaking. i must replace this bladedancers armor kit

[sweet summit]

sell it and play with 1 trinket

[jagged pier]

☝️

[jagged pier]

there are also lots of other good trinkets

u dont need scale

[chilly brook]

Literally would be better off with the dark moon deck

[jagged pier]

yer haste darkmoon deck is pretty good

decanter phial

emitter

hynmal

like i dont use scale till +18s nowadays

[fathom spindle]

Really informative guide mate, well done!

I honestly think i need some more haste before my Warrior will take my DH’s place atm though.

Even with ITF, it feels like SB recharge to slow

[chilly brook]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm running sub 20%

[fathom spindle]

How much SB uptime so you think you can get on Huntsman (If you solely tank him)?

[chilly brook]

With what lego?

[fathom spindle]

Reprisal i reckon

[chilly brook]

Like 85% or upwards

[fathom spindle]

Because i tried it in HC last week.
Felt like i exhausted charge/Intervene and SB, everything was on CD, but felt like it was close to 70% at most

No logs to confirm it though

Obviously i could time Sinseekers better etc, but the Warr is quite new.

But hopefully experience will make me time things smoother

[chilly brook]

From Sense's log

Using reprisal

[jagged pier]

theres no point comapring to sense

[fathom spindle]

Well, new HC clear alt run tomorrow.

So i just have to log, and see what i can do better

How much haste you run with @jagged pier ?

[sick sentinel]

@sweet summit

[sweet summit]

hey

whats up

[sick sentinel]

can I see your main?

on rio

gonna blatantly copy if possiblw

[sweet summit]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/tarren-mill/Ergaw

[sick sentinel]

thanks

[sweet summit]

im uhhh

dps atm

so

[sick sentinel]

I see some tank runs

I do both aswell

[sweet summit]

uhh ye sure

[jagged pier]

cheers dude appreicate it, and in terms to your haste question 25% or somthing

honestly dont really check its changed over the last few days

[fathom spindle]

Alright!
But as mentioned, my Warrior is like 8 days old (at lvl 60), got 213 ILVL, so closing.

Still BiS gear and valor to farm 🙂

[edgy jay]

On an average dungeon (+15), what is your uptime of SB ?

Or what whould be a good average ?

[sweet summit]

~80% blocked hits with reprisal+AM

at least thats what im getting so i think its alright

[chilly brook]

Well I'm just using it as a "85% on huntsboi is possible cuz it's been done"

[edgy jay]

How do i check "blocked hitd" on details ?
It only shows me the uptime of the buff

[sweet summit]

you cant

[edgy jay]

I have around 45% of uptime on SB )on details), it seems very low, but my dungeons end up going pretty well considering I'm under gear (ilvl 200)

I'm usually healed by friends saying that's there is surpisingly not that much healing required

Idk

Kk i'll need to log a few run and check that then

[sweet summit]

ya u need logs to determine how well u did with sb

[edgy jay]

Yup thanks !

[grizzled forge]

Are the ptr builds still wednesdays?

[blazing condor]

is the nar'zudah + cleaver pull a no-no this week with inspiring in NW?

Where you pull the miniboss + pack after bridge with orb

[lavish oracle]

I've seen it done

They delayed pulling the 2 skeletons in until after their kicks

[twin surge]

hey guys do u think the vdh meta its gonna die on 9.1?

i really dont like the vdh gameplay at all. So hoping the warrior or brm make it to the meta.

[grizzled forge]

What key levels are you doing?

[twin surge]

+21s

[lusty grotto]

ayo

NOME

i need your assistance

@strong forum

shit its sleepy time for nome probs 😦

and sense isnt on 😦

oh hes afk

@oblique garnet boop

[oblique garnet]

👋

[lusty grotto]

do you have time to talk about Stewart our lord and saviour in PMs

[oblique garnet]

maybe

[lusty grotto]

did you watch the mdi sir

[oblique garnet]

no

[lusty grotto]

hmm

are you still playing wow or nah

[oblique garnet]

yes sir

[lusty grotto]

i see

ok im gonna send you feet pics

[oblique garnet]

🤔

[lusty grotto]

i misspelled fish pics, as in Stewart

[shut summit]

[lusty grotto]

[potent anvil]

When a pug healer tells you that you need to kite more...when most of the damage I took are from kickable casts

[lusty grotto]

ohno

the more times change, the more things stay the same 😎

[shut summit]

they die or you die, no kiting

[lusty grotto]

😄

[novel temple]

I just came back, did we get any changes in the last 3/4 months

[sweet summit]

reprisal got reworked and we got a flat 10% damage reduction and some damage buffs

[novel temple]

Ooooooooo

So we got buffed

What was reprisal? A legendary?

[sweet summit]

all tanks got buffed, yeah

[novel temple]

Oh rip

[sweet summit]

thats a leggo aye

[novel temple]

Is necrolord good now too?

[sweet summit]

its solid, but to optimize it you need great group coordination

[novel temple]

Oh

Not worth it then huh

[sweet summit]

youd probably get more out of kyrian/nf

[grizzled forge]

Necro lords only good if you enjoy holding a flag while your friends do damage

[lavish oracle]

Honestly, given how big a personal dps increase spear is in AoE, I wonder if necro is even worth it in a very well coordinated group in keys

I guess maybe like MDI type stuff you probably get more value buffing like a fire mage

[sweet summit]

if u have like monk and dk then yeah

fire barely gains anything in aoe

as its just ignite

and flamestrike doesnt add ignite

[lavish oracle]

Ah, hm

[oblique garnet]

@sweet summit kept kiting out of my eq 😦

[sweet summit]

i blame storming

[potent anvil]

Storming can die.

[oblique garnet]

storming is fun

[potent anvil]

When youre ranged 😠

Storming is fun when I play my mage

[oblique garnet]

its fun on warrior aswell

you get free charge without moving

[potent anvil]

[patent osprey]

Id still take you @potent anvil ❤️

[potent anvil]

[patent osprey]

[rocky locust]

if running reprisal are you suppose to still pick booming voice?

[warm remnant]

Isnt that same tier as bsc ? Pretty sure thats the go

[rocky locust]

ya same as bsc

[sick sentinel]

alright guys i need some help, i was originally kyrian and switched to necro for 9.0.5. now im wanting to either switch back to kyrian or go fae what do you think would give me the most value

[warm remnant]

I mean, you got time to go all and get max renown and all that jazz

[sweet summit]

night fae as far as personal dps goes, kyrian is nice for the dungeon buffs if noone else in your group is kyrian

if youre pugging id just go night fae

[empty spindle]

Best way to deal with storming ?

[sturdy sable]

Watch your feet?

[fathom spindle]

Go to Manchester, have a nice Cold pint, and wait for it to blow over ☺️

[empty spindle]

Bollocks

[fathom spindle]

Jokes aside, just be nimble i guess, it can be annoying in ToP and Sanguine though :/

[signal plover]

And basically every boss in halls kek

[fathom spindle]

The Lich in ToP is the worst though 😂

Storming has cucked us plenty on that boss

[junior spade]

Whats a good lego to make if I dont like the playstyle of reprisal?

I like mplus

[sweet summit]

the wall tbh

[floral pewter]

With reprisal, BSC is better for dungeons/aoe. BV still wins for ST

[junior spade]

Then ill make it

Ty

[worthy flint]

is venthyr trolling

[prisma bear]

if you dont have a venthyr otherwise its clearly better than the rest

its probably the best one at killing/surviving pridefuls balance

[flint tiger]

where in logs do you look to see what your block uptime percentage is for raids & M+?

[jagged pier]

true but no matter how well i play ive never got close to sense, ever

[jagged pier]

this should give you a run down of what to take for quickly in a log an why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tRp8lULT8&ab_channel=Jakeyplops

[flint tiger]

Thanks!

[fallow beacon]

Just starting M sire prog - thoughts on reprisal vs wall for leggo choice?

thinking with all the blood price/shatterings in p3 reprisal would be pretty good

thinking it may be spooky going through mirrors without a cd tho

[cursive trout]

Reprisal vs the wall on sludgefist?
I get approx 10 charges in during the fight which is like 40s extra shield block uptime (block reduces dmg by like 70%).
With the wall I would be able to shield wall pretty much once per roar which is 32 sec extra uptime with only 40% dmg reduction.

It seems like a no brainer to pick reprisal for that fight since all the dmg is so consistent?

[chilly brook]

If you can

Reprisal is better

[jagged pier]

doesnt matter from what i remeber most are using the wall on the fight im using repirsal and havent found an issue with it yet but i havent reached final phase yet

[chilly brook]

@cursive trout

[jagged pier]

u can use ither

[chilly brook]

Also shield wall is 50%

Not 40%

[ionic fern]

70% dr from block?

[jagged pier]

that would be good

[chilly brook]

And yea

How is block 70%

Kekw

[jagged pier]

even more 81% mitigated

[cursive trout]

I'm drunk got all the numbers wrong.... but I assume after waking a bit more up block reduced dmg by around 40% and shield wall... surprise... 50%. Which would make the numbers more or less exactly the same 😂 I normally just press buttons and hope I live lol

[chilly brook]

No worries

[cursive trout]

"Ohhh I take dmg, should probably press something that reduces dmg in-take"

[chilly brook]

In general, reprisal is a better option on sludge

Since it covers the gaps when you need it basically 100% of the time

Sludge is easily a high 90 to potentially 100% blocked hits fight with reprisal

For reference this was my kill with The Wall

And I'm very confident that I probably coulda made that 82% 100% with reprisal

[cursive trout]

Yeah, that's also what I gathered, albeit a bit late in progression. I still tend to accidentally use it when there's downtime

[jagged pier]

mine with rep

[chilly brook]

Oof

That 1

[jagged pier]

big

[cursive trout]

jeez, I'm not sharing mine 😂 I had 10 sec downtime because I fucked up...

[jagged pier]

if u have a lock curse of tongues i think it is

is fucking op

[chilly brook]

Sludge has a really set in stone pattern, learning it is key to maximizing block

Anyways I should be going to sleep

[jagged pier]

sleep is best

[cursive trout]

Thanks though! 🙂

[strong forum]

I had like 90% blocked, 6% absorbed on my sludge

I'm also pretty sure you get more than 10 charges in, no?

Every stomp, every roar, and 1-2 on each pillar

• intervene on CD

Ye I charged 18 times

Only 5 intervene tho

Nvm 7

[carmine prawn]

Please help me align my understanding for ignore pain's tooltip: when it is up, do i have a shield that absorb the amount it is up for ; or 50% of damage i take goes to the absorb and the other 50% come to me as damage that will go through the mitigation roll?

[strong forum]

The mitigation roll happens first

Then 50% after mitigation goes to IP amount, the other 50% you eat

So you have like armor>block>absorbs(like IP)

[carmine prawn]

Ahhhhhh... now that makes sense on why shield block is priority for getting it up. Was behaving like a bear with UFR whilst leveling

Thank you for the clarification

[misty charm]

guys this may be a stupid question but is there a big difference in tankiness in between like ilvl 219 and 225 ?

according to some reddit math 1 ilvl is equal to around 1% dps, but how does that check out with tankiness?

[ionic fern]

👀

What are you taking into considerations?
Only STR increase from ilvl? Also secondary stats? What type of damage? etcetcetc so many variables.

That's one of the reasons why "simming for tankiness" is not a thing.

[crimson furnace]

is there any way that I can use execute and shield slam on the same button???

i just want to spam one button when we are in execute phase

thoughts? :))

[jagged pier]

no

becuase u still need to use Sheild block in execute phase

[blazing condor]

shield block + shield slam + execute button

[jagged pier]

🤢

[cursive trout]

Of course you can! but he is only hitting you with his fists after 1 st stomp + roar every phase, given there's 5 phases that leaves you with 10 "important" charges. But again... the only raid boss I've ever tanked is mythic Sludge, so what do I know 😂 I might be playing this all wrong, but no one notices because they are all DPSs and Healers...

[still pagoda]

Never worked to begin with. You always need a separate bind for shield block and can't just spam all charges away since you'll hit 11sec and waste a lot of it(unless blizz made it like SotR at last)

Same goes for shield slam and execute

2 abilities with completely different uses

[ionic fern]

Why are you talking about Shield Block tho? 👀
He asked Shield Slam and Execute.

Everyone knows we don't use Shield Block during execute phases.

Smh.

[still pagoda]

[brittle owl]

[strong forum]

The only 3 buttons that exist during execute are LS, execute and SS

4 with Ravager if talented

[blazing condor]

red 😦

[wise harness]

How to solo plaguefall 2nd last boss with prot warrior?

[lime urchin]

Equip a shield with big spikes.

Like Bulwark of Azzinoth for example.

[blazing condor]

you get victory rush from the ambushers

[lime urchin]

To assert dominance.

Oh. And that too.

[blazing condor]

make sure you take them out and kill them for it

worked fine for me

[wise harness]

my shield is transmogged to bulwark of azzinoth

ah ok so i aim the ambushers?

[blazing condor]

make sure you get them out of their "stealth" and kill them with boss

use victory rush

that was pretty much what i did and i had no issue

[sick sentinel]

is it legal to pretend a +13 key is a +14 when queueing

and hope nobody notices during the key

[blazing condor]

yep

but be ready for people to leave if they notice and dont wanna do it

[sick sentinel]

its either that or never get the key started

+13 is the most useless

[wise harness]

ok thanks! will try out now again

cant seem to kill that idiot. nvm will try next patch

[carmine prawn]

Was it on heroic mode?

[wise harness]

yes

[carmine prawn]

Cool, different issue from me then

[blazing condor]

whats your ilvl?

@wise harness

[wise harness]

201 if i switch to Prot

[sick sentinel]

Ive been pugging sire as prot warrior. Currently doing phase 2 and just creeping into phase 3. Any tips specific to prot? He seems to hit pretty hard after wracking pain.

[jagged pier]

well your supposed to swap on 1 stack

[sick sentinel]

I figured that part out but after he does second wracking you taunt him back right?

So debuff is still up

[dry spear]

lol

[subtle island]

Debuff expires before he hits you with wracking pain again if you're swapping on 1 stack

[sick sentinel]

Ok

[subtle tulip]

Hey guys, any tank experts that wouldnt mind taking a look at my mythic progression logs? I feel like my damage is low (although im necro) but also that at times I require the same amount of healing as our DK tank. (see huntsman kill). If any of you guys feel like taking a look I'd appreciate any pointers: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cN9MxDWmYrzk2n6C/#fight=3&type=damage-taken&options=130 . I do tank the dogs, soul rips and the last dog does get some hits in from the back (paper tank).

[subtle island]

You on dogs or boss?

ah sorry didn't read

I wouldn't turn my back to kite it -- I just slow walk backwards usually if I'm tanking dog

[subtle tulip]

Yea I can just intervene and leap I guess to keep him small.

[carmine prawn]

For heroric last dog, what is a safe stack to let it have? I usually freak out at 5 and start kiting to 3 or 2 after checking the raid is ready for it

[subtle island]

I'd just slow walk, he drops stacks without movement abilities, and you have a greater degree of control of how quickly they drop if you're slow walking him

[subtle island]

I've got him to 7 before on a kill logs say

[carmine prawn]

The stacks only increase the damage done to us as tanks?

[subtle island]

Scratch that, 11*

Not sure if it just increases damage to us, or to the aoe

in general, I prioritise looking after raid health

[carmine prawn]

Cool, will try to have it slightly higher before i pop them stacks slowly

[subtle island]

Damage is then focussed on you rather than dispersed widely, making it easier for healers as they only have one target that's taking heavy damage rather than the whole raid

[strong forum]

When he's low hp try to avoid moving him, makes it easier for healers and just eat externals instead

[subtle island]

Ye I've had it to 11 before, and it's noticeable that that was a much quicker kill

[strong forum]

11 is very very close to 1shot territory

[carmine prawn]

Now that is something i won't be heading to

[strong forum]

I once forgot to move him cuz I spaced out so I just sat there around 10 stack and wondered why I'm actually losing hp

But that was in 9.0, idk how chill things are now

Easiest way is just, to move when raid is full HP

And avoid moving him when the shout is happening

Otherwise just walk as long as raid is healthy

Very simple

[carmine prawn]

Will take note of that

[strong forum]

1thing I'll say is, you don't use TC nearly often enough

You should be around 8-9cpm

But it's on 4.5cpm

[carmine prawn]

Anyone knows where can i find a list or debuffs from CN that i can put into elvui's whitelist so it can show?

[strong forum]

Just delete all filters

They do you no good

Literally just remove all elvui filters

[crisp dragon]

For higher keys, should I be using Kael thas trink?

And I mean higher baby keys like 17+

[lofty widget]

i wouldnt

[carmine prawn]

Removing the filters will allow the debuffs to show?

[ionic fern]

I like the nice Pin from Paladin discord:

[crisp dragon]

I guess

[strong forum]

So much this

Yoink the pin

I beg

[jagged pier]

please steal the pin

[smoky wave]

dunno, I'd say 2 has a place. I use it as a 2. I'm trying to address the times when it procs but at the same time there have been times I know I've made a mistake and it's gone off but it's kept the run going.

I'm using it at the moment now we're pushing past 15s and I can't make baby pulls anymore. It's currently plastering over gaps in my play as I learn when I need to gtfo while still keeping things going for the group. It's getting dumped as soon as I've got that smooth though (and AFE drops damnit)

[strong forum]

I wouldnt use it before 20+++

If at all

But that's me

[jagged pier]

i dont even have it and im pushing into 20s now

[lofty widget]

i think it enforces bad play, because even if you know you make mistakes SOME times and it procs cause of that, i doubt you notice all your mistakes and what caused it to proc

[jagged pier]

also that having a safety net makes me play a little shitty cause i know i can die tbh

[smoky wave]

hmm

Decanter and overwhelming power crystals are my alternatives. mebbie it's time to ditch it then

[safe thistle]

just a quick question atm were progrssing on xymox mythic and i started with the wall. the cd is there for glyph but i realised i lose way less hp with spell reflect over sw on glyph. should i run reprisal since there a lot of good oportunity for it ?

[misty charm]

to make it easier id probably say ilvl only but still difficult yea... i was just thinking about how big the difference will be once itemlevel goes up further from a "feels" point of view

[tranquil snow]

For prot warrior is thunder clap use for aggro or just taunt?

[blazing condor]

Ravager and Revenge is great for generating threat but you should TC on cooldown for the rage gain anyway

[tranquil snow]

Haha i thought only taunt at first

[signal plover]

All damage generates threat

[broken mulch]

Any specific busted trinket you recommend for prot warrior progressing SLG? 🙂

[signal plover]

Are you doing Kaal or goliaths in P1/INT1?

[broken mulch]

kaal

[signal plover]

Oof

[broken mulch]

how come?

[signal plover]

It's fine just less fun lol

[broken mulch]

=p yea fair haha just feel our BM is more suitable for adds =]

[signal plover]

I don't see how tbh

You'll do more dmg to adds

[broken mulch]

the statue is prbly an easier way to pickup and control adds no?

[signal plover]

Nah, not when you abuse leap taunt

You can aoe taunt for the commando swap in INT1

Anyway sorry, that wasn't your question

[broken mulch]

haha

tell me for both situations 😉 maybe i'll get my cotank to go kaal

[signal plover]

For goliaths just full offense (scale is prolly good there as well but I still don't have one lol) so any solid dmg trinkets you have.

For kaal prolly anything that supplements your bleed DoT damage reduction. SLG trink, Vintage maybe, alar prolly ok for dangerous moments in INT1.

Alar is weird for kaal tank cuz if it saves you from death it doesn't clear the bleed so it only buys you a couple extra seconds to react.

[broken mulch]

I could run my power crystal trinket if I go Goliath's plus SLG 220 prbly

Yea I don't like the alar trinket tooooo much

[signal plover]

Lots of ppl don't

I run it cuz it extends pulls on prog.

I also haven't had any decent trinket luck smthis tier so far.

[fiery badge]

Torn between the wall or reprisal for my first Prot leggo, based on the FAQ it really doesn’t matter I guess

[fierce field]

what content is going to be your focus?

[fiery badge]

Mythic +

[fierce field]

then i'd lean reprisal

[blazing condor]

reprisal for m+

you can use it in raids too np

[fiery badge]

Yeah that’s probably what I’ll do, the wall sounded cool because potential for more avatar uptime if you run AM

[blazing condor]

In m+ you run AM with reprisal

so you get the avatars there too

[fiery badge]

Reprisal sounds op af though

[plush tendon]

Reprisal is the way in M+

the amount of SB uptime, extra rage, and free Revenges you get is very good

[fiery badge]

You guys make legs to boots for reprisal?

Probably gonna go haste + Versa

[solemn magnet]

Legs~

Having not look at any of the 9.1 loot, having rank 6 legs will most likely be better in the long run than having bis boots and slg pants now, if you even do m slg

[signal plover]

^

Reprisal legs make my butt look good

[plush tendon]

Yea, but I got fly kicks

[signal plover]

No one looks at shoes when booty is clappin

[solemn magnet]

235 yeezies are tempting

[signal plover]

235 yoga pants tho

[strong forum]

Reprisal outshines wall in both types of content imo

M+ and raid

Both dps and surv

[fierce field]

i've been using reprisal in the raid, because it's the only one I have built on my warrior, i've not had a problem weaving in charges/intercepts on most bosses

but that's for bosses i've got on farm, progression might have been more of a challenge to figure out the best times to leap out/charge in etc. 🙂

[strong forum]

Na not rly

Takes only a few pulls to fully get down how to charge on which boss

Reprisal is goat

[fierce field]

i meant for me, because i'm a bit slow on the uptake 🙂

played prot warrior in vanilla but lost that account, took me until 9.0.5 to realize that prot warrior should be my main again 🙂

[coral kayak]

Whats the rotation for charging into packs in m+ with reprisal ? .. im running into the fray and HR so no ravager

[strong forum]

Charge TC revenge

Albeit I don't recommend playing that build until ultra keys

And even then its wonky

[south berry]

Why is that nome

[strong forum]

Dps loss, rage loss, less SW uptime

You only get to use SW every 3.5min without AM

You already get 85% block uptime with playing reprisal

[inland raft]

I kinda agree with plka, its a good vuild situationally like necrotic

But generally the ravager build better

[south berry]

Ohhhhh, I'm dumb and didn't realize he said hr

[strong forum]

Human resources

[coral kayak]

Lmao

Ok ill switch back to ravager and gove it another go, although i like the haste from into the fray and having 1 less button to track off

[patent osprey]

yeah I kinda agree with Plka too

[inland raft]

idk seems like you might be bias though @patent osprey

agreeing with this plka guy

[patent osprey]

What can I say, Plka is just a good looking guy, hard to not agree

XD

KEK

[fiery badge]

I’m coming over from tanking on a bear to giving warrior a shot. Bear is good but a little boring

I guess everything gets boring if you do it a lot.

[chilly brook]

Really? I kinda think hes big dumb

[inland raft]

most fun i think is dk, but they arent in a great spot right now

[chilly brook]

To be fair bear is literally, thrash do something that might be spamming swipe for 3 globals then thrash again

[ionic fern]

If you give me the numbers i can math it out for you. 🤷

[chilly brook]

@patent osprey I'm just kidding plz no hate

[fiery badge]

That’s the basics, you gotta mangle to generate rage also and keep your ironfurs up. Rotate defensives like any other tank

[coral kayak]

Yep same here, was a bear but its OMEGA boring, playing on monk and warr now, both are fun

[chilly brook]

No mangle in aoe kekw

[patent osprey]

sadge

[chilly brook]

We love Plka around here

[fathom spindle]

If you don’t pray to @patent osprey atleast on a weekly basis, legends has it that he’ll Haunt you under your bed

[ionic fern]

[patent osprey]

Facts

[ionic fern]

Damn, no wonder i can't sleep.

[signal plover]

Is he one of those sexy ghosts?

[fiery badge]

Only during incarn for xtra damage

[misty charm]

what do you need? simc or what numbers are we talking

[chilly brook]

negative ghost rider

[ionic fern]

Actually..if you only want to check the passive STR part you can just look at Vanguard armor at ilvl X and ilvl Y. 👀

[misty charm]

what im curios about is how much tankier you get with the same playstyle by adding X amount of itemlevel (lets say you upgrade all your items to 226 as an example, so no stats switch around, they just grow)

[distant crystal]

you get 3 tankier

[signal plover]

~3 tankier

[strong forum]

One might even say

|| 3.14 ||

[signal plover]

I think u mean ||QT3.14||

[strong forum]

Some others say || 💩 D 🥧 ||

[dark mountain]

I would say e^(pi*i)+1

[brittle owl]

studies have shown that tankiness is directly proportional to the negative powers of 10 on your penus size

[signal plover]

Onooo

[brittle dagger]

boys i just opened my chest

[vocal bison]

Niiiiice! One day...

[fierce field]

so. jelly.

[vocal bison]

So I’m a glass cannon

[brittle dagger]

i think its a sign from odyn himself to quit playing my pussy bear druid and commit to the war

[fierce field]

my monk still only has the 184 version from week 2 m0.... can't get one to drop for my warrior for the life of me

[rancid ember]

you rang

Pick up a shield and put your furry life behind you. Unless you play Vulpera like Nom & Plka then you get the best of both worlds

[brittle dagger]

never gonna change

[brittle owl]

disgusting

fuckin furries

[brittle dagger]

[inland raft]

so i agree rav/am build is better but wanna play around with the itf/hr build just to check it out, is it worth maybe dropping a bit of haste for more vers since have so much haste with itf? or just stick with the usual

[sweet summit]

haste is still haste so its great, but id go a bit more into vers with itf/hr yea

[light thicket]

Guys i got a question about how locks work on heroic.

If i killed SLG and just SLG

Next time i make a raid group do i get to fight denny directly?

Or i have to do shriekwing and sludgefist as well?

[signal plover]

No fucking clue tbh

[dense flame]

If you extend your lockout you can fight Denny.

I believe?

[light thicket]

I pugged a slg last night just to have a denny lockout for some guildies

But a friend pointed out it might not work

[karmic plinth]

you may have a lockout with shriek and sludge alive

[languid mason]

yoyoyoyoyoooo

[light thicket]

So ill stillhave to kill those 2 to get to denny?

[strong forum]

have to kill 3

shriek, sludge and slg

[fiery badge]

You think I can tank a 10 at 198 ilvl

[strong forum]

yes

[light thicket]

Dammit

Ty

[strong forum]

ive done 14s at 190

[fiery badge]

Poggers

[brittle owl]

it might not work out for you if you're new to the spec though

[rugged mural]

I've been using Demo shout on Prides when they're at like 30-40% hp to try and help the healer out. Am I correct that Demo shout will reduce the outgoing group damage?

[candid niche]

just you i think

[sweet summit]

only damage you take

[weak dune]

if it affected all dmg that would be insane

[rugged mural]

damn, that's not nearly as useful as I thought it was then

[strong forum]

then pwar would be OP

lmao

like hella OP

[patent osprey]

true

and TL would be bis

[strong forum]

ye

everywhere

imagine raid

[patent osprey]

imagine

running double prot war

for high keys

just to live

[strong forum]

lul

but who does dam then

[warm remnant]

The prot

[strong forum]

the pally!

[fierce field]

double prot seismic nightfae... just might struggle on tyrannical weeks

[urban portal]

I mean you would still d shout

[signal plover]

And rally prolly

[coral heart]

Hello everyone! Seeking some wisdom from the pros here. I'm playing kyrian prot warrior atm with the build 3111232. I feel sort of weak while tanking +15 keys. I feel like I'm pressing shield block when it's available and I'm taking damage. Maybe I'm using ignore pain to little. Last dungeon I did I had 52.7% Shield Block uptime and 29.1% Ignore Pain. Does it seem too low or is there anything else fundamentally wrong I might be doing?

[jagged pier]

have you got logs?

[coral heart]

unfortunatly not, I'll try to log the next m+

[jagged pier]

well its veyr hard to tell what your doing without logs but sounds like u arent playing correctly

52% uptime with HR seems super fucking low

and if your running reprisal

thats just like your not pressing buttons at all

[fierce field]

depends on which packs you're feeling squishy on too... some of it might be priority spells not getting kicked and magic damage coming through.

[coral heart]

probably not intervening enough :S

[jagged pier]

no

that will be 1 thing

having 52% uptime total thats not even effective

with reprisal and HR talent

means u are doing some wrong

with reprisal and HR u should be able to have liek 80% total uptime at least and your effective shoud be even higher

[coral heart]

I will log this one that we're gonna start in a min

[sick sentinel]

Check Jakey's guide video on how to read that log also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tRp8lULT8

[inland raft]

That speculated m+ affix looks like literal cancer

[modest osprey]

its torghast powers lmao

[inland raft]

Ya literally cancer especially if its rng

[lofty widget]

hope its gonna be like, certain "bosses" spread throughout the dung, and each one has specific powers

so you can actually plan around them

[sand condor]

omg

[late ermine]

what is the max amount of seconds I can have on shieldblock active while playing reprisal without using last stand

[sand condor]

did they buff the banner?

[sweet summit]

18

dunno

might be tooltip error

[sand condor]

no bro

i mean in the ptr

[sweet summit]

i know

[thorn ether]

Boys how much uptime of shieldf block should i aim for in m+ ? Reprisal is the legendary

[sweet summit]

80% blocked hits is a good benchmark

[thorn ether]

how can i see the blocked hits? u mean 80% overall uptime?

[jagged pier]

id say 75%, me at my best i get 80% but i am a pleb and press revenge to much

[jagged pier]

u need to log

[sweet summit]

logs

[jagged pier]

overall uptime is a shit metric

it tells you nothing

[thorn ether]

Well it tells you how much uptime ur shield block had as a buff

[late ermine]

I am getting between 75 to 80 but I am still trying to get use to the playstyle and only been playing it since tuesday lol...switching from vengeance next patch

[thorn ether]

I know it's shit in cases where you have shield block up

but you dont get attacked

but stil

[jagged pier]

thats why its a terrible metric to look at

thats no use

[late ermine]

its a good metric for trash lol

[jagged pier]

no

[thorn ether]

i had 61% on a mists 18 but i feel i did insanly good job there

[jagged pier]

what if u kite?

[thorn ether]

213 ilvl though

[jagged pier]

what if the mobs cast

sounds low for overall tbh

but i dunno i dont look at overall

[late ermine]

I macro'ed charge and shield block together so I just pool rage at the end of a pull and have less buttons to press

[jagged pier]

you should never ever

[sweet summit]

i recommend getting rid of that macro

[jagged pier]

macro shield block into anything

[sweet summit]

you do not want to macro your active mitigation onto anything

[thorn ether]

Also do bolster counts as shield block in the uptime on details?

[jagged pier]

what if u charge a caster as if dies and its the last mob of the pack

[sweet summit]

it does

[late ermine]

the 4 seconds pops as soon as u press charge so u are not losing any uptime

[jagged pier]

yikes wasted sheild block

[sweet summit]

it gives you the shield block buff

[thorn ether]

Oh i don't play with Bolster

61% uptime without bolster

i play with AM

[jagged pier]

if your running reprisal still seems low

[thorn ether]

But like 75-80% seems insane

[ionic fern]

?

Where?

[thorn ether]

without bolster

[ionic fern]

What?

[jagged pier]

mwahi did 86 effective uptime

🤷

[sweet summit]

its not 80% uptime

its 80% of melee hits blocked im referring too

[ionic fern]

This was in a 19 mists i did recently and i was lazy af. 👀

[thorn ether]

how much

was ur uptime there

not the blocked hit

[ionic fern]

Who cares?

About that.

Wat

[thorn ether]

i am just curious even if it is a shit metric

[ionic fern]

👀

60.15%

Which tells you literally...nothing.

[jagged pier]

your starting to look like me now

[thorn ether]

ok good

[distant crystal]

it tells us that you were kiting a little

[jagged pier]

no? what if u have it up when u kite

well done your added to uptime

[distant crystal]

or stuck in combat with things that don't white hit :p

[sweet summit]

but also details uptime =! logs uptime

details only counts in combat time

[jagged pier]

☝️

[sweet summit]

logs count everything

from key start to finish

[jagged pier]

including travel

[fierce field]

what if you have it up while rnning between packs, or while you went through the wrong mist gate? 😄

[jagged pier]

details doesnt

[distant crystal]

actually i guess it doesn't necessarily mean you kited, could just be lucky blocks w/o it up

[ionic fern]

On here it told me i also had 60% overall uptime.

🙂

[jagged pier]

will be counted in logs not details

[distant crystal]

and other things :p

[signal plover]

I only shield block while looting trash

[fierce field]

oh, i know, i'm just saying that's why uptime doesn't matter, only blocked hits matters

[distant crystal]

I don't even loot trash

I'm too rich for that

[signal plover]

I do it even in m+

Where there's nothing to be looted

[sweet summit]

hacker

[signal plover]

Flex on dem dead hoes

[late ermine]

can someone explain to me how that macro is losing uptime when the 4 seconds of shield block essentially starts on pressing the button not hitting the mob with charge u lose roughly a second by the time u get there off the 4 now if you macro shield block to charge you still lose a second off the original 4 but now you have the 6 from the shield block charge as well that doesn't lose any

[jagged pier]

what if u charge when u dont need sheild block,

[ionic fern]

What macro?:(

[jagged pier]

hes macrod sb into charge

what if a pack is dying and u charge a mob

and it dies

[late ermine]

have just regular charge set to shift plus the button

[ionic fern]

o.o

Why won't you just have a SB instead on the charge+sb button then?

And a regular charge as it is.

😂

[late ermine]

ok guess I am wrong thank yall I will correct

[thorn ether]

yeah i checked logs apparently i had only 60% blocked which is good. I suck and we need to practise more

[ionic fern]

Wait so you had 60% overall uptime and 60% effective block uptime?

[thorn ether]

yeah

[sweet summit]

that's impressive

[thorn ether]

without bolster though

[sweet summit]

ive neverseen that before

[ionic fern]

Can i see the log?

That sounds..weird.

o.o

[thorn ether]

YES

one sec

[sweet summit]

to clarify, 60% blocked hits is relatively low with reprisal. even without bolster

[thorn ether]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wVRFrBJ27z4jmTNK#fight=last

yeah but i am also playing prot

more ''serious''

this week

[jagged pier]

yer was about to say

u have 75% blocked hits

[thorn ether]

wait

[sweet summit]

thats pretty solid

[thorn ether]

how u see that?

[jagged pier]

u hover over the hits column

[light sorrel]

Just to make sure I'm reading that right, Conqueror's banner grants 524 Mastery instead of 400?

[sweet summit]

might be tooltip error

[jagged pier]

the amount shows how much damage u blocked

[thorn ether]

OH

[sweet summit]

waiting for ptr to be live so we can log on and check

[thorn ether]

I hovered over the melee

tab

[jagged pier]

its in that line

[elfin surge]

OT: thanks for the reading the logs @jagged pier ! great video

[jagged pier]

just further along

[sweet summit]

thats always gonna be fucked, cos when you dont block you obv take more damage

[thorn ether]

yeah , i saw it . I mentioned it because i really didnt feel like taking a lot of dmg in that key it was like very smooth.

Like i really felt i did a decent job in that key

[jagged pier]

thanks man its there to help 🙂

[sweet summit]

quick tip, you can outrange tongue lash

[jagged pier]

and its also there so me Erga, Mwahi and Nome dont have to read logs all the time

[sweet summit]

and take 0 damage

cos it fucks

[thorn ether]

yeah i know

[ionic fern]

Not to nitpick but 3.3k overall is kinda.. 👀

[thorn ether]

i ve been playing DH , and brew . Warrior feels like a big wheelchair

[ionic fern]

Mad lad

Biggest damage from SS in a key.

[sweet summit]

damn

[jagged pier]

[fierce field]

been playing brew, i don't agree on warrior being in the wheel chair... because I also did some protadin and bdk 🙂

[thorn ether]

is this bad?

[jagged pier]

could probs do more intervening as well

[ionic fern]

Should look more like that

[thorn ether]

what the fuck

[jagged pier]

revenge should be top u cast a lot of IPs

[sweet summit]

revenj

[thorn ether]

Do you spend rage on Revenges?

Like excess rage i tend to spend it on IP

[ionic fern]

Does this answer your question?

About how often i use IP?

😂

[thorn ether]

what the fuck

is this ok ?

[sweet summit]

i only IP to avoid overcapping rage really

[coral heart]

Now I have a log 🙂
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HRtk4LrvMcpAjhzf#fight=last

[ionic fern]

Yes. 👀

[thorn ether]

So basically i dont use IP

[ionic fern]

You CAN use IP - there's nothing wrong with it.

[jagged pier]

you dont really need to it only there to smooth damage

[sweet summit]

mine was a 21 mists for refrence, so not like a giga key, but also not a baby key

[jagged pier]

hes one of my mists 18

for a refernce

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1Kc2YPxb8aBN9tJy#fight=2&type=casts&source=3

look at the casts difference

[thorn ether]

But since you don't PI doesn't that means that you dont have as much Self heal?

?

[jagged pier]

indom is off all rag eu spend

[sweet summit]

warriors dont have self healing :/

[ionic fern]

We are not a self healing tank.

[jagged pier]

and yer we dont heal

[sweet summit]

@jagged pier :(

[jagged pier]

yer

im lazy okay

/ i cant press revenge fast enough

whats that rage ment to go on?

IP?

yikes

[thorn ether]

My mind has just exploded boys

like really

[light sorrel]

Only if you need it, Jakey

[sweet summit]

its a dps gain to do so tho

[thorn ether]

I am so excited

[sweet summit]

cos AM

[light sorrel]

Just don't take damage

[fierce field]

Meme I just picked up pwar 3 weeks ago... i was only pressing Revenge when it was flashy.... this group has lead me down the righteous path of rage goes to revenge 🙂

[thorn ether]

bro

[sweet summit]

revenj

[fierce field]

oh.. sorry 🙂

[thorn ether]

i am oldschool from BFA where i am pretty sure that was the only right way to use revenge

[sweet summit]

xD

[ionic fern]

1)Why are you using HR in a +14?
2)Your effective SB uptime is 63% which is SUPER low considering you're running HR/Reprisal. - Even with Reprisal alone it should be around 80%.
3)You're wasting A TON of rage..You literally wasted 3000 Rage over the course of that key. - Keep an eye on your Rage bar and use Ignore Pain / Revenge to dump rage. This is a HUGE HUGE HUGE mistake.
4)Your Intervene casts as super low considering you're running Reprisal.

[thorn ether]

but i have no clue

[sweet summit]

in BFA revenge barely did damage

all your damage was TC/SS

so you barely used it

[fierce field]

I came from brewmaster... I was using IP to mimic legion purify, and SB to mimic legion ironskin brew.

[sweet summit]

but now, all your damage is revenge/SS

[thorn ether]

does this apply no matter if you play cold steel or booming voice?

[sweet summit]

so u wanna slap it

[fierce field]

er... BFA.

[sweet summit]

revenge is your main offensive rage spender

no matter what talent you play

[thorn ether]

So i can safely assume my overall dps can increase 500-1k dps

[jagged pier]

this is when i did a NW and forgot i was in raid talents

[thorn ether]

depending the dungeon

[jagged pier]

u still press revenge

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4YrcqyVdN3xGp9Mg#fight=1&type=casts&source=1

[ionic fern]

Yes.

[sweet summit]

@ionic fern are you horde yet? we need tank for keys

[jagged pier]

hes a feral tank

[ionic fern]

No.
I would be if i played more WoW.

😂

[jagged pier]

and thanks for the invite Erga

[sweet summit]

o

[fierce field]

people play alliance?

[hot oxide]

Hmmmm, more key options on horse side?

[thorn ether]

i can safely tank up to 20 i think

[sweet summit]

but you're not mwahi

[thorn ether]

after that i need gear

[jagged pier]

true and i never will be

[ionic fern]

Dwarf best race.

[jagged pier]

[sweet summit]

same

[hot oxide]

Kul Titan ftw

[ionic fern]

Ewww

ANyways..the time will come when i'll turn Horde.

[jagged pier]

yer and ill never be up to yours or Nomes standard ither @sweet summit

[ionic fern]

Soon'ish.

[jagged pier]

[ionic fern]

I guess.

[fierce field]

I played on a back water alliance server until 8.2 when i switched horde... I really really miss dwarves

[ionic fern]

I will get more free time again so i can try and do keys.

And become horde.

👀

[hot oxide]

I’d go vulpera on horde

[fierce field]

You'll always miss the dwarf Mwahi

[ionic fern]

I 100% will miss Dwarf.

[sweet summit]

i dont have standards so you live up to them by default

[jagged pier]

vulpera busted

[ionic fern]

And i 100% will NOT go Vulpera.

Smh

[jagged pier]

[fierce field]

i look back longingly at it.... but my wife demands being a vulpera... so i'm stuck horde now

[hot oxide]

Tis sad

[ionic fern]

Have you thought about leaving her and living happily as a Dwarf?

[fierce field]

I have... but i don't want our doggos to deal with a broken home

[ionic fern]

Understandable.

[safe void]

Hey fellas, new to warrior - I want to mainly play fury but also protection at times. Should my convenat be Kyrian in that case?

[jagged pier]

if u play fury and prot NF

[fierce field]

From what I gather NF is strong for a fury/prot blender

[jagged pier]

but u can be any cov for prot

so pick for fury tbh

[safe void]

Cool thx 🙂

[young oasis]

We changed just 1 person on SLG mythic and we went from 6% to not being able to enter p3...

Blah

[sweet summit]

bruh

[thorn ether]

Something different. How do you deal with bosses like Last boss on NW , Kul'tharok on ToP

do i spam IP ?

[signal plover]

Well last boss NW is blockable

So

Nothing special there

[thorn ether]

the shards are blockable?

[signal plover]

Yeh

[thorn ether]

really

lol

[signal plover]

Phys projectiles

[thorn ether]

i was spamming IP :DDDDDDDDDDDD

i am so trash bro

[signal plover]

Never had issues on Kul in ToP so not sure there, maybe same story

To da blockable sheet

[lofty widget]

reflect the scythe

[thorn ether]

not last boss

the Caster boss

[lofty widget]

ah

[thorn ether]

the static one

[lofty widget]

that one only melees right

[thorn ether]

No he does occasional spells

The dot hurts a lot on 23 on dh

i can only imagine how much it will hurt prot war

[lofty widget]

reflect for 20 % DR, or use any other defensive

since you dont need them for anyhting else on that fight

[signal plover]

I don't think I've paid attention to mechanics on that boss ever

Just yoyo for reprisal during the long channel wmshit

[lofty widget]

theres really not much going on tank-wise

[rancid ember]

More executes boys

[light sorrel]

@signal plover Is there a link to that somewhere

[ionic fern]

3rd pin in this channel.

[light sorrel]

Thanks, dad

[ionic fern]

[chilly brook]

All the execute damage

Kekw

Sadge that it doesnt apply to condemn

[coral heart]

Thank you for your tips Mwahi! I'm using HR because I'm bad and feel I need all the help I could get 🙂 definately need to get my intervene game up!

[ionic fern]

I'd mainly start focusing on the Shield Block up-time and reducing the wasted rage.

There should be close to 0 wasted rage. 😦

[coral heart]

I think it's a combo of paying to little attention and being a coward wanting a buffet for SB and IP 😛

with the rage that is

[amber herald]

execute buff? is this ptr

nvm I found it

[inland raft]

Execute button gets shinier

[sweet summit]

how high blocked hits are u supposed to get with itf hr

i just tried it

and it doesnt feel awful

but like, i got the same as i get with reprisal + bolster

i probably fucked it tho

@patent osprey help

[patent osprey]

Sorry im confused on the question @sweet summit 😮 what are you asking ?

[sweet summit]

the first one

blocked hits with hr i guess

[chilly brook]

The block hits %

Vs non blocked

[sweet summit]

like, does this seem fine?

[patent osprey]

whats ur uptime of SB

sorry i don't have an avaible log

im looking for one now

of myself

[sweet summit]

73.5% raw uptime, from log

[patent osprey]

pretty accurate then

cause with reprisal

get a 76% blocked

with am

so 89% is close to the 100% goal

so seems fine

could be mobs hitting ur back

[fathom spindle]

Between Kyrian and Night Fae, which one do you guys prefer, in M+ and Raiding?

[chilly brook]

Night fae

[sweet summit]

very rarely from behing, its mostly on prides/bosses where i cant keep up sb. but i know i can game a lot harder

[chilly brook]

Kyrian if you lack the Kyrian buff in your keys

[patent osprey]

u can't keep up SB with HR?

[chilly brook]

But I prefer NF heavily

[fathom spindle]

Most likely will lack it.
I take it you play with First strikes then?

[chilly brook]

Yep